The 4 gang charger is an awesome marketing idea because it makes people go out and buy 2 more batteries because there are those annoying spaces that are always vacant. Then you have to buy more tools because you've invested in 4 batteries.
I'm a foundry mechanic and in using this drill for the past 2 years and it's still running great even in the hardest conditions (really fine dust, drops from 2 meters and above stuff like that) my last drill was an dewalt 18v that thing lived for like 4 months than it died so I really like Hilti drills because they are just reliable and high quality tools it just works day in and day out and i take them to there limit but the Hilti doesn't seem to have a limit
It's quite clear that the drill didn't need that piece. They'll probably steal AvE's idea of removing it, call it a new and improved version, then charge even more for it.
At 18:26, bottom right of the handle where the battery slides in, just in behind of the black plastic, there's a slot molded into the plastic, looks like it would fit there.
This particular steel plate goes in front of where the gang changer switch is (the one that switches between 1-2 and 3-4). It prevents the spring underneath the switch from dislocating.
Im a technician of electronics, instrumentation/automation and control systems. I would have finished the extra year to attain my engineering class but ended up having a family and needed to get working. I sincerely enjoy your vids and information. I love doing the same type of breakdowns, except I normally do them to either repair or modify the tool/instrument! I dont have it in me to tare apart brand new expensive tools from my garage... i save that for when they start acting up! I can tell you’re quite intelligent and have a fairly in depth knowledge of a wide variety of subjects. I also enjoy the funny vocabulary. Keep it up! Thanks for the entertainment
I used Hilti drills for years and they absolutely copped a bashing where I worked. They never missed a beat! Top drill and of course, premium price to go with it!
I had an 18V Hilti that came with my work van. I always had the latest and greatest name brand, but I was rough on tools. That Hilti just always worked, even after nosedives from a ten foot ladder. Great brand.
as long as the brushes arent diarrhea hardness than in 90% or more of cases the drill will bite the dust or get lost/dropped/drowned long before you run out of brushes.. my angle grinders are the only thing i notice brush wear in and i lean on those with all of my 160lb gorilla frame... even so after 300-400 running hours on one still got just shy of half the brushleft.. not a constant rate spring though so shes gonna start shitting the bed and i cant find new brushes..
@Howard Black All it does, is short circuits the motor with a switch which connects as soon as you release the trigger. That feature is common on just about any drill, regardless of price, brand, or quality.
3:47 ... "Likely this DeWilt, ugh, has got a slight weeble wobble at the bell end on account of the prestadigitory (sp?) malfeasance of muffin top and Clark Griswald"
We had hilti drills for our fleet (millwright). And we'd beat the piss out these things drilling stainless steel, dropping'em getting them wicked hot till you need stick weld gloves to hold them and dirty as all hell.Might have burned one out in my years but she'd be smoking while drilling a 1-1/4" hole through 3" stainless plate and it just wouldn't quit. wicked drill for sure.
Just switched over to this drill for my competitive robotics team after our dewalts started dropping like flies. Found out about it here!! It sure is a beauty tool, thank you for putting all this info out there. Keep up the great work!
The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten. Is actually from Benjamin Franklin.... either way love the saying!!
I'd love to see test an all around strength test competition between Snapoff,Mackco,StanleMac, wrench ,,,must be 9/16 just cause..whos is harder better ect
I have an old Hilti TE-17 from the 60's that my father bought back in the day. It's seen a hell of alot of work and still works like new. Awesome stuff
I was walking my dog yesterday and I saw my neighbor (I've never met him) opening a big Hilti cabinet and found out he is a sells rep or something for them. Anyway, the equipment seems flat out superior to anything, I just cant afford it (I do DIY stuff, it would be like deer hunting with an F16), but if I owned a construction company, it would probably be worth the cost
I dunno man. Depends on WHO is using your tool... you gonna give that punky kid you hired as a helper a $700 tool that he could easily just misplace without even thinking? Or that journeyman whatever with 20 years in the trade? Or are you going to use it yourself? It's a gamble to me
Maybe should come with an emergency wrist- "smart" -lanyard so when it throws you over the fucking vice and into the garage door, it will call 911 for you. Great vid!
The better Hilti, Metabo, Bosch, etc modern models have electronic clutches. If the drill or grinder binds up the motor shuts off to avoid injuring your hands and arms, launching shit skyward, or cooking the magic smoke out of the motor and wiring from the current spike.
phelebas Hilt is have had that feature for a few years now...when I built elevators for a living all we would use was HILTI my partner and I actually had to go out and buy these practically bulletproof truck boxes so that no one would steal them..I mean when you're carrying oround like 10k in drills you become an overprotective mom......lol
Mate, FYI the leftover metal piece is a locating guide plate between the two clamshell moulds, just a little Easter egg for first time Lichtenstein explorers lol
My old man bought his first of many Hilti's back in 1990. I served my time with it as a kid working for him, and when he died 2 years ago, the TE72 he bought back then was, and still is, as solid as ever; it works perfectly every time and I have absolutely no doubt it'll still be going strong in another 30 years. It really has done the most incredible amount of work in its life time, too - it's an absolute MACHINE! I contacted Hilti when I inherited a lot of his kit, mainly because I broke another drill being stupid, and they happily transferred them all over to me, and have agreed to honour all of their servicing and repairs in my name! They will not charge me anymore that £70 UK for "any" repair. The are not only the muts nuts for the tools they make, but they're absolutely incredible for customer service too!
If you are spending 5x too much for a product, then yah, they'll have good customer support. Also, the fact that a drill is still running after a couple decades doesn't mean much. Totally anecdotal & you could say the same about the shittiest tool around.
It's actually a very good idea to isolate the battery terminal from the welded cells. When you hammer in that battery multiple times into the drill you're not transferring that hammer force to the welds via a rigid connection. This will weaken or even break the joints or the connecting tabs via work hardening. In this solution it just slides the terminal around and no harm done.
I’ve used a LOT of Hilti tools. When it comes to big, gnarly tools like SDS Max or spline drive hammerdrills, demo hammers, metal cutting circular saws, core drills, big impacts, that sort of thing- they’re AWESOME. I think they’re essentially unrivaled in that department. Regular drill motors, small bandsaws, 1/2” or smaller impacts, angle grinders, etc.? I VASTLY prefer the 20V Dewalt and 18V Milwaukee tools. I’ve used Hilti tools of that ilk, and I have no doubt they’re certainly a far superior tool, but they’re way heavy, uncomfortable to use, and TOO perfect (the tighter tolerances make them easier to gaum up with dust, shavings, filth, slime, goo, grease, etc.) for regular construction use. In machine shops, clean environments like nukes, chemical plants, and so on, I may well change my tune, but in the shithole plants (coal powerhouses, steel mills, and such) and commercial facilities where I mostly work, the superiority of the Hilti tools is of no consequence since I can get more work done with their lesser competition. I sure do like fondling them, though...
I used a Hilti diamond core drill and it was HORRIBLE. I'd much rather use a Weka or something similar. Small drills? Seen Hilti ones fail spectacularly. They sure do have decent SDS max and concrete brakers though.
@@nikolairubinskii6450 The last core drill I used was a Weka, and it scared me to death. The first time it grabbed, it wrenched INSTANTLY out of my hands and twisted its cord off before it came to rest. I would've clutched a Hilti out against my opposite tricep til it came to rest. While the Weka seemed like a better tool (really nice build quality), it's a harder tool to use in that even my foot on the side handle didn't stand a chance, I'd HATE to use that (unusually heavy, by the way) tool in a manlift or straddling a beam or something. I'd probably treat it like a dry-core bit on a grinder; fasten some conduit or something to the tool and let it eat wedged against something. If it binds up, yank the cord, but with the Hiltis I've used, you don't have to do that, ever, because they have a good clutch.
I've been watching some of AvE's video for a while now but it wasn't until this video and the first 27 seconds that finally made me subscribe to this channel. I like the teardown videos alot and how he can identify alot of the electronics and mechanical items. He's got alot of knowledge schmoozing out of every which hole.....
i work as a blacksmith in denmark, and we almost exclusive use Hilti hand tools, and we have plenty of it, its nice to see someone gasm over them as much as i do.
I work at a rental shop that stocks Hilti tools for all the 250 pound gorillas in town. Most tool companies observe a 90 day rental warranty, meaning the company I work for only gets 90 days warranty after they put it in service as a rental tool. Hilti still observes their regular warranty as long as we take it to a real service center when the red light comes on.... THAT is a real tool manufacturer!
Cool! I guess you have a lot of experience with the durability and quality of various brands in that case, so I was wondering about a couple of things -- which brands do you guys carry? Which are the most durable, and which ones do you have most trouble with?
We carry products from all sorts of major tool manufacturers. If youre talking electric power tools my favorites are definitely Hilti but Dewalt and Makita do the job fine. All of my cordless power tools in the shop are Dewalt because they are lighter and easy on the wrist for all day use, sometimes I grab a Hilti off the showroom floor when I need extra power.
Brian Holdren, there is other equipment that costs us a whole lot more and we get a lot less coverage. Hilti is definitely a top end brand that charges reapectively but some Fein tools and that other really expensive EU brand take the cake when it comes to how much they charge for a tool vs commercial warranty... We dont get one
Not allowed to bring brushed tools to a few refinery and gas plants here in Alberta. Brushes cause too many arcy sparkys not intrinsically safe enough.
I used this for structural iron working and I was recommended this one over the brushless second gen Hilti came out with recently. I was really skeptical since it’s brushed but I walk circles around the guys with the Milwaukee drilling 9/16 in holes into I beams all day long
I am no tradesman by a long shot but I had to ask why the hell Makita would only offer 1port chargers. Felt like cheapo bullshit. I got asked by our tradie crew to please charge the Makita batteries after a fair bit of downtime and while they were out. About 20 batteries on 4 chargers. No fun.
I have a Fein with the same thing. I run the thing 10 hours a day and I much prefer it. You can put more pressure into the actual twist drill without the drill shaking and twisting.
That makes sense that they are industrial focused. I've never seen anyone with a Hilti, and then I started working at a steel mill and we were given Hilti drills and we have Hilti power tools. I can confirm anytime I've needed a drill the Hitli took care of the job.
Yep. Pancakes for breakfast (extra fluffy with Maple Grove Farms Sugar Free syrup). Fried egg. Slice of Prosciutto in the frying pan, with another slice of Capocollo to make it mo' betta. Some Wally World McCaffe grind in the Drip-Drip. Then its upstairs to the Confuser... and lo and behold it's AvE! And he's doing a HILTI-whatever! by Zeus! It's going to be a good day :-) ....WHOA,OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! ....I seriously kid you not...My wife just came in and asked me if I looked up some restaurant last night like I was supposed to, I told her I was busy at the moment (I was typing here), she gives me a kiss and says happy Anniversary! ......Whoops! Her Birthday was two days ago and I gave her a nice card and her favorite flowers.... (I forgot the anniversary card was still in the trunk). She seems OK at this moment. I'm gonna blame John Walker..... Dang, I'm dead serious again, phone call says Patio furniture to be delivered in 15 min. I can't let a delivery "interruptus" me from watching this. I'll be back in an hour.
I love my DeWalt range, the XR have never let me down working with heavy steel and punching that heavy steel into concrete the last 9 years. Would love to get Hilti someday almost every major lift company supply their engineers with Hilti.
Just bought one a few weeks back because of these video. I don't know every drill out there but it is best I have ever used by far, especially for metal work.
once I used an Hilti electric hammer.. It penetrates concrete like a korean sailor in an Hamburg's brothel.. with no resistance and disappointingly fast
EtaCarinae230 hilti hammer drillers are freaking awesome . worked for two companies that would sign out a hilti and dang would it blow through concrete. and chooched on after many ape handed apprentices.
In my country hammer drills are called "Hilti", that gives you an idea how good they are. It was pretty weird to me back when i was younger and someone says "Oh, he spent XX months working in Germany and i brought home a Makita Hilti" but now I got used to it just like everybody else
Sima, I presume that you are not in the US of America, but even in Pennsyltucky, a "Rotary Hammer" is not called a "Rotary Hammer", just called a Hilti. Having used one at work from time to time, even being cordless, (typically one battery charged by the time one is spent) and literally being dragged knee deep in mud, I completely see why its reputation precedes itself. AVE just confirms it is a inside and out that it is a Skookum Choocher, and not just "Well I've been using it for years".
Heh, yeah. My cheapy hammer drill was making no dent on some 8" concrete I was trying to drill through. Rented a Hilti hammer drill, put it to the concrete and 15 seconds later I was through. I felt kind-of cheated at an effective rate of $9600 per hour but it was worth it.
Hilti are true industry-quality tools. A friend was a Hilti sales rep in the UK and was very confident selling them. I used Hilti TE17 SDS hammer drills when I was installing stadium seating in the '80s and they drilled many thousands of 10mm bolt-holes in pre-cast concrete without isssue. Apart from the flex breaking internally just by the handle, mainly due to pulling on them. I wish I could afford them now.
"Hilti" has actually become a term for those large concrete breaking tools here in Norway, because the Hilti brand has always dominated that market here.
@@COZMICTOM Just because something is made in China doesn't necessarily mean it's low quality, it depends on the specifications and standards set by the client.
Hiltis nowadays seem to be low quality compared to back then. I can tell cuz the TE-16 rotary hammer is much more reliable than the bullshit they sell now.
I looked at getting one of them 4 way chargers but the batteries do not take long to charge so i went with the single one. Great video. Thanks for sharing.
You're an awesome dude! love the video! Kalamazoo Michigan Loves you! Used Hilti Drills, Hammer Drills and demo hammers at work. In an industrial situation nothing else compares. When you have a tool get the flue the salesman would come by leave a loaner so you have no down time while they take the sick puppy to nurse it back to health! Great company have no complaints. Now if the homeowner with the means buys these for home use, he will be handing these down for generations!
you would need the Ingersoll Rand drills then. The rubber and plastic they use are made for greasy environment and can withstand those harsh grease cleaning solvents if you need to clean your tool.
I bought one of these about 10 years + ago. On my second chuck and second battery. We use it for screws and mixing plaster, still going. Worth every penny. The hard case it comes in is still going as well.
I run hilti gear, it’s never let me down. I even dropped my impact driver 21ft from a roof peak and it only split the corner of the rubber on the battery. That was 6 years ago, I can’t imagine how many fixings it has put in since. Faultless
Thank you very much for this video, I watched it awhile ago and used it as a reference yesterxay when taking mine apart to clean after a bunch of masonry dust and crap in it. Lol lent it out big mistake haha. Keep the great videos coming, love the commentary!
@AvE the rfid you took out is Hilti's way of increasing their efficiency. If you ever send it in for servicing. as the tool goes round their various benches the work log pops up on each techs screen before they even touch it. Hilti, apart from amazing quality is also second to none in repair and service on their stuff. they've repaired an sds max drill i've had since the 90's.
I have everything I need for work from Hilti, all battery program, expensive as hell, but worth the money, keeping all batteries in the van during the winter on -15'C and never had a problem for 6 or 7 years now. After all these years using every day still works like new every piece. Before that I had dewalt, it was ok, but Hilti is another level.
I took apart my Metabo drill, their highest spec one and I took out the gears and everything to take a look. I'm certain the Hilti is similar from looking at the vid because when I took out the gears, they're all lined with needle bearings and don't use cheap-o bushings. Pretty incredible. Took me forever to put the gears back in though, that's for sure.
I'm about to pick up the SF 6H-A22 and SID 22-A combo kit from the Homeless Despot. I cannot wait! I hear amazing things about the hammer drill. You've convinced me that Hilti is a cut above the competition. We'll see how it compares to my current Metabo 18v impact.
I think you refuse to be disappointed by this drill. I have a few new Hilti cordless stuff and think makita's cordless are much nicer. Hilti service is amazing though.
adam anthoni ford I think calling it brushed is still correct. That's like someone calling an old engine a "carburetor engine", as opposed to fuel injection, and someone getting upset, calling everyone wrong, and saying it's a 427 cubic inch "Big Block" chevy engine. I dont know about you, but I'd rather have someone call an engine a "carburetor engine" than a "non-fuel injection engine", even if they dont know the specifics of the motor they are talking about.
I still have my Hilti SF 144A 14.4 volt cordless set! paid $400 for it new 9 years ago. I have used it for everything from home projects to commercial job sites and it still works! I still use the same batteries they don't last quite as long as they use to but it has to be the best cordless set I have used yet.
Love your reviews , especially after the teardown of the tools . Can you do a Hilti Impact Drill 18V , i am very interested in adding that to my collection , but want to be safe with my choice .
We just had a gang box with 15k woth of hilti delivered to a jobsite. Long gone are our days of defunkt and mondfunkee. Super happy with the sds and vac attachment. The bandsaw is a beast!
i just got one of these with a good battery at a pawn shop for $50. its a bit crusty but it still feels nice. Now i just have to find stolen batteries and a charger for sale
Sage advice. For the average home owner, any home depot drill will do. I run a sheet metal shop, and am a journeyman hvac tech. I have owned every brand imaginable, and For me, Hilti is the only way to go. The others I had to replace every year. The Hiltis last at least 5 years, under extremely heavy use.
AvE, you have to take a look at Fein ASCM 18 QM. Full metal gearbox, 4 gears and 3850 rpm on 4th gear. The best machine on the market for metal working.
The difference between a cheap tool and an expensive tool , is the amount you can use it and the punishment it can take my dad bought a Metabo drill had it for decades and gave it to me it was built in West Germany and still goes today.
Today I realized that one of the only reasons I can appreciate fully the absolute treasure that is my grandpa's old machinist toolbox is your videos. Not this one so much, but so many. I shall get a premium T to celebate by. Rather, to celebrate you.
I'm partial to Rigid stuff, they usually got decent sales going on, and if you take the time to register the tools you bought, they too do the lifetime service/replacement thing. It's super useful when your batteries take a shit.
IzzyBibBoo B -- wow! A Rigid guy! (No pun intended). You, sir, are one rare bird! In all my years in construction, i thought you guys were just an 'old wives tale'. I'm not knocking the brand, it's just cool to see guys that have brand loyalty to someone other than the 5 main brands!
Bacnow I was just starting out and broke as frig but needed a set of power tools. Found a beat-ass set of old Rigid cordless stuff for $100 on Craig'slist and they treated me well enough to the point where when I finally did smoke a tool, I replaced it with their new brushless line.
Your an idiot
xD Every. Damn. Time. It's three words David.
AvE your a fucking idiot better for you .
BWAHAHAHA. Welcome to the internet folks.
Funny... thanks for that. Half a million people think you're pretty great.
+David Boyle And you're illiterate
I have learned from AvE that outside beauty isn't everything. The inside can be beautiful as well. As long as it's glass fiber reinforced...
"That's what SHE said!..."
and dont forget both sides need to fit together nicely. It might take some time to find the right fit, but once you do keep that 1.
30% of course
So you have a glassfiber woman?
Those are a words of a worthy man or a proper woman. What ever you prefer.
The 4 gang charger is an awesome marketing idea because it makes people go out and buy 2 more batteries because there are those annoying spaces that are always vacant. Then you have to buy more tools because you've invested in 4 batteries.
footrotdog "genius!"
footrotdog Hilti- Well played for the obsessive compulsive in all of us.
footrotdog you need to buy 3 more batteries because with one being in the tool that leaves 3 open spots
footrotdog well if you buy 2 more tools they come with batteries.... 1400$ later
That'd be the case if this was DeWinkle. This is Hilti. As AvE says this is marketed towards big consumer.
Sometimes I wonder if the engineers secretly hope AvE is going to open their work up and give them the praise they deserve.
I'm a foundry mechanic and in using this drill for the past 2 years and it's still running great even in the hardest conditions (really fine dust, drops from 2 meters and above stuff like that) my last drill was an dewalt 18v that thing lived for like 4 months than it died so I really like Hilti drills because they are just reliable and high quality tools it just works day in and day out and i take them to there limit but the Hilti doesn't seem to have a limit
"What they save in packaging, they pass on to their profit margin!". Classic. Less than I minute in, already hilarious.
Left over parts just means you made it better.
Berserker 42 more streamlined for the lightweight chooching
It's quite clear that the drill didn't need that piece.
They'll probably steal AvE's idea of removing it, call it a new and improved version, then charge even more for it.
I call those "optional parts". If it works without them, it obviously didn't need them.
At 18:26, bottom right of the handle where the battery slides in, just in behind of the black plastic, there's a slot molded into the plastic, looks like it would fit there.
This particular steel plate goes in front of where the gang changer switch is (the one that switches between 1-2 and 3-4). It prevents the spring underneath the switch from dislocating.
Im a technician of electronics, instrumentation/automation and control systems. I would have finished the extra year to attain my engineering class but ended up having a family and needed to get working. I sincerely enjoy your vids and information. I love doing the same type of breakdowns, except I normally do them to either repair or modify the tool/instrument! I dont have it in me to tare apart brand new expensive tools from my garage... i save that for when they start acting up! I can tell you’re quite intelligent and have a fairly in depth knowledge of a wide variety of subjects. I also enjoy the funny vocabulary. Keep it up! Thanks for the entertainment
I used Hilti drills for years and they absolutely copped a bashing where I worked. They never missed a beat! Top drill and of course, premium price to go with it!
I had an 18V Hilti that came with my work van. I always had the latest and greatest name brand, but I was rough on tools. That Hilti just always worked, even after nosedives from a ten foot ladder. Great brand.
RE: brush spring. As the brush wears down, the spring will move towards the opposite edge of the brush.
Wayne Bengtsson good point
as long as the brushes arent diarrhea hardness than in 90% or more of cases the drill will bite the dust or get lost/dropped/drowned long before you run out of brushes.. my angle grinders are the only thing i notice brush wear in and i lean on those with all of my 160lb gorilla frame... even so after 300-400 running hours on one still got just shy of half the brushleft.. not a constant rate spring though so shes gonna start shitting the bed and i cant find new brushes..
Left over parts are just the tool gods' way of saying thank you for your sacrifice.
Hand Tool Rescue Love your videos man!
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@Howard Black All it does, is short circuits the motor with a switch which connects as soon as you release the trigger. That feature is common on just about any drill, regardless of price, brand, or quality.
*God's**
@@AutodidactEngineer Not if he's a Hindu it's not.
That sticker was an RFID tag, Hilti uses it to keep track of their inventory in their supply chain.
Came here for this. The pink ?
@@Nick-hz7zo he's covering the serial number. It's just tape.
@@alexanderbuckland Thank you! Makes good sense.
@@alexanderbuckland HPHT
Ave needs his own line of high quality tools
Everything is 100% glass fiber reinforced
10k Candadian Kopeks per tool, but they'd never wear out
@@BespokeCarpentry with cuntstan targlide
@@benshell8662 they can only wear in like a good raw-hide speedo. (also expensive but worth it.)
Ones that can survive at least 4 30 foot drops lol
3:47 ...
"Likely this DeWilt, ugh, has got a slight weeble wobble at the bell end on account of the prestadigitory (sp?) malfeasance of muffin top and Clark Griswald"
?..why type a comment repeating whats said in the vidjayo,..now,go clean up yr room.
Thats highly ranked operator techno jargon. You have to be level G13 authorized to understand
Yea it's a wobbler 🤔
@@danielhall1226 I love when a G13 be comin around
Whats the big deal? $700 Canadian is only about $27.50 US.
The joke ------------>
Your head
way over... gone... whoosh. there it goes...
The joke is tired
Canada's gonna want to grab some sunscreen so it doesn't get so damn burned in the future.
Less than 11euro
We had hilti drills for our fleet (millwright). And we'd beat the piss out these things drilling stainless steel, dropping'em getting them wicked hot till you need stick weld gloves to hold them and dirty as all hell.Might have burned one out in my years but she'd be smoking while drilling a 1-1/4" hole through 3" stainless plate and it just wouldn't quit. wicked drill for sure.
Just switched over to this drill for my competitive robotics team after our dewalts started dropping like flies. Found out about it here!! It sure is a beauty tool, thank you for putting all this info out there. Keep up the great work!
"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after low pricing is forgotten." Leon M. Cautillo
Will Man this is just a paraphrase of Ben Franklin.
@@cameronmcleod7740 Still true tho. Say it enough and we can quote you!
The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten. Is actually from Benjamin Franklin.... either way love the saying!!
Tim Wohlford true enough. Buy once, buy for life.
The manufacturers of the cheeply made ...loves a society who accepts the disposable...Rather than sell you one for life
They’ll sell you many
I'm bestman at a church wedding, would it be wrong to watch this, ceremony about to start...
Please extend my congrats to the groom. Don't forget the ring eh.
Still on TH-cam? lmbo
I'm here putting off going and getting a 6 v tractor running. Killing time
I'd love to see test an all around strength test competition between Snapoff,Mackco,StanleMac, wrench ,,,must be 9/16 just cause..whos is harder better ect
Earphones.
I have an old Hilti TE-17 from the 60's that my father bought back in the day. It's seen a hell of alot of work and still works like new. Awesome stuff
I was walking my dog yesterday and I saw my neighbor (I've never met him) opening a big Hilti cabinet and found out he is a sells rep or something for them. Anyway, the equipment seems flat out superior to anything, I just cant afford it (I do DIY stuff, it would be like deer hunting with an F16), but if I owned a construction company, it would probably be worth the cost
"deer hunting with an F-16" lol
I dunno man. Depends on WHO is using your tool... you gonna give that punky kid you hired as a helper a $700 tool that he could easily just misplace without even thinking? Or that journeyman whatever with 20 years in the trade? Or are you going to use it yourself? It's a gamble to me
@@MrTacolover42 I remember when I was the punky helper kid helper kid who set the drill down in terrible's places and would forget.
Maybe should come with an emergency wrist- "smart" -lanyard so when it throws you over the fucking vice and into the garage door, it will call 911 for you.
Great vid!
The better Hilti, Metabo, Bosch, etc modern models have electronic clutches. If the drill or grinder binds up the motor shuts off to avoid injuring your hands and arms, launching shit skyward, or cooking the magic smoke out of the motor and wiring from the current spike.
Their newest cordless drill has an auto shutoff for when it hooks up.
phelebas Hilt is have had that feature for a few years now...when I built elevators for a living all we would use was HILTI my partner and I actually had to go out and buy these practically bulletproof truck boxes so that no one would steal them..I mean when you're carrying oround like 10k in drills you become an overprotective mom......lol
Incredible to hear a professional speak about a topic they so fluently understand.
Mate, FYI the leftover metal piece is a locating guide plate between the two clamshell moulds, just a little Easter egg for first time Lichtenstein explorers lol
My old man bought his first of many Hilti's back in 1990. I served my time with it as a kid working for him, and when he died 2 years ago, the TE72 he bought back then was, and still is, as solid as ever; it works perfectly every time and I have absolutely no doubt it'll still be going strong in another 30 years. It really has done the most incredible amount of work in its life time, too - it's an absolute MACHINE! I contacted Hilti when I inherited a lot of his kit, mainly because I broke another drill being stupid, and they happily transferred them all over to me, and have agreed to honour all of their servicing and repairs in my name! They will not charge me anymore that £70 UK for "any" repair. The are not only the muts nuts for the tools they make, but they're absolutely incredible for customer service too!
So the cost of you getting your Hilti repaired, under warranty, cost at minimum, the same as a new DeWalt. Thanks - Lumpy
If you are spending 5x too much for a product, then yah, they'll have good customer support.
Also, the fact that a drill is still running after a couple decades doesn't mean much. Totally anecdotal & you could say the same about the shittiest tool around.
There is no way that the battery and other tech is nearly as good as something modern
Brandon; you said: OLD Craftsman... and by OLD, it must have been at least MORE than 30 years ago.
Brandon S
At K-Mart? Isn’t Craftsman a Sears product?
It's actually a very good idea to isolate the battery terminal from the welded cells. When you hammer in that battery multiple times into the drill you're not transferring that hammer force to the welds via a rigid connection. This will weaken or even break the joints or the connecting tabs via work hardening. In this solution it just slides the terminal around and no harm done.
Do you mean using the drill as a hammer? Lol
Because I think every carpenter in the world does that
I’ve used a LOT of Hilti tools. When it comes to big, gnarly tools like SDS Max or spline drive hammerdrills, demo hammers, metal cutting circular saws, core drills, big impacts, that sort of thing- they’re AWESOME. I think they’re essentially unrivaled in that department.
Regular drill motors, small bandsaws, 1/2” or smaller impacts, angle grinders, etc.? I VASTLY prefer the 20V Dewalt and 18V Milwaukee tools. I’ve used Hilti tools of that ilk, and I have no doubt they’re certainly a far superior tool, but they’re way heavy, uncomfortable to use, and TOO perfect (the tighter tolerances make them easier to gaum up with dust, shavings, filth, slime, goo, grease, etc.) for regular construction use.
In machine shops, clean environments like nukes, chemical plants, and so on, I may well change my tune, but in the shithole plants (coal powerhouses, steel mills, and such) and commercial facilities where I mostly work, the superiority of the Hilti tools is of no consequence since I can get more work done with their lesser competition. I sure do like fondling them, though...
I used a Hilti diamond core drill and it was HORRIBLE. I'd much rather use a Weka or something similar. Small drills? Seen Hilti ones fail spectacularly. They sure do have decent SDS max and concrete brakers though.
@@nikolairubinskii6450 The last core drill I used was a Weka, and it scared me to death. The first time it grabbed, it wrenched INSTANTLY out of my hands and twisted its cord off before it came to rest. I would've clutched a Hilti out against my opposite tricep til it came to rest. While the Weka seemed like a better tool (really nice build quality), it's a harder tool to use in that even my foot on the side handle didn't stand a chance, I'd HATE to use that (unusually heavy, by the way) tool in a manlift or straddling a beam or something. I'd probably treat it like a dry-core bit on a grinder; fasten some conduit or something to the tool and let it eat wedged against something. If it binds up, yank the cord, but with the Hiltis I've used, you don't have to do that, ever, because they have a good clutch.
I've been watching some of AvE's video for a while now but it wasn't until this video and the first 27 seconds that finally made me subscribe to this channel. I like the teardown videos alot and how he can identify alot of the electronics and mechanical items. He's got alot of knowledge schmoozing out of every which hole.....
i work as a blacksmith in denmark, and we almost exclusive use Hilti hand tools, and we have plenty of it, its nice to see someone gasm over them as much as i do.
I work at a rental shop that stocks Hilti tools for all the 250 pound gorillas in town. Most tool companies observe a 90 day rental warranty, meaning the company I work for only gets 90 days warranty after they put it in service as a rental tool.
Hilti still observes their regular warranty as long as we take it to a real service center when the red light comes on.... THAT is a real tool manufacturer!
I have used hilti for years and when I have had to take one back it's been sorted with no problems and quick. That's what you are paying for
Cool! I guess you have a lot of experience with the durability and quality of various brands in that case, so I was wondering about a couple of things -- which brands do you guys carry? Which are the most durable, and which ones do you have most trouble with?
We carry products from all sorts of major tool manufacturers. If youre talking electric power tools my favorites are definitely Hilti but Dewalt and Makita do the job fine. All of my cordless power tools in the shop are Dewalt because they are lighter and easy on the wrist for all day use, sometimes I grab a Hilti off the showroom floor when I need extra power.
Brian Holdren, there is other equipment that costs us a whole lot more and we get a lot less coverage. Hilti is definitely a top end brand that charges reapectively but some Fein tools and that other really expensive EU brand take the cake when it comes to how much they charge for a tool vs commercial warranty... We dont get one
Festool being the other really expensive EU brand I guess?
Not allowed to bring brushed tools to a few refinery and gas plants here in Alberta. Brushes cause too many arcy sparkys not intrinsically safe enough.
Ah but who needs safety
that has to be a new concept. as well as costly, eh?
Ours in edson allowed brushed tools
aka ex proofed
They have a brushless drill too, although it's only a 12V
I used this for structural iron working and I was recommended this one over the brushless second gen Hilti came out with recently. I was really skeptical since it’s brushed but I walk circles around the guys with the Milwaukee drilling 9/16 in holes into I beams all day long
In their demo they showed that charger charging 2 batteries simultaneously by placing one on each ends. (1 0 0 1) config.
@@douglasward718 Are you having a stroke?
Last time I checked they work equally well for cranking a four stroke too. And vibrators....can't forget about the noisy dildos.
I am no tradesman by a long shot but I had to ask why the hell Makita would only offer 1port chargers. Felt like cheapo bullshit. I got asked by our tradie crew to please charge the Makita batteries after a fair bit of downtime and while they were out. About 20 batteries on 4 chargers. No fun.
@@fwoibles both of my makita tools have came with a double charger?
@@fwoibles there are 2 and 4 port Makita chargers
Wife- what ya laughing at? Me- drill reviews.. Wife- Ill be at my mom's. . I'm taking the kids too.
Good one
She ever come back?
win-win
Who knew it would be that easy 😅 I kid, I kid
But honey, look at the service factor!!! Honey?? Check out the glass fiber reinforced shell with this gorgeous over molding…
In this video, AvE learns about the problems with the weird Glock grip angle.
I was thinking the same thing!
I have a Fein with the same thing. I run the thing 10 hours a day and I much prefer it. You can put more pressure into the actual twist drill without the drill shaking and twisting.
I've been using Hilti for 40 years and have rarely ever had a problem
That makes sense that they are industrial focused. I've never seen anyone with a Hilti, and then I started working at a steel mill and we were given Hilti drills and we have Hilti power tools. I can confirm anytime I've needed a drill the Hitli took care of the job.
Nothing better than a fresh hot cup of AvE on a Saturday morning.
Yep. Pancakes for breakfast (extra fluffy with Maple Grove Farms Sugar Free syrup). Fried egg. Slice of Prosciutto in the frying pan, with another slice of Capocollo to make it mo' betta. Some Wally World McCaffe grind in the Drip-Drip. Then its upstairs to the Confuser... and lo and behold it's AvE! And he's doing a HILTI-whatever! by Zeus! It's going to be a good day :-) ....WHOA,OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS! ....I seriously kid you not...My wife just came in and asked me if I looked up some restaurant last night like I was supposed to, I told her I was busy at the moment (I was typing here), she gives me a kiss and says happy Anniversary! ......Whoops! Her Birthday was two days ago and I gave her a nice card and her favorite flowers.... (I forgot the anniversary card was still in the trunk). She seems OK at this moment. I'm gonna blame John Walker..... Dang, I'm dead serious again, phone call says Patio furniture to be delivered in 15 min. I can't let a delivery "interruptus" me from watching this. I'll be back in an hour.
Dan it is known
I love my DeWalt range, the XR have never let me down working with heavy steel and punching that heavy steel into concrete the last 9 years. Would love to get Hilti someday almost every major lift company supply their engineers with Hilti.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I like to take things apart too, but you have all the ancillary knowledge of everything thats going on.
Just bought one a few weeks back because of these video. I don't know every drill out there but it is best I have ever used by far, especially for metal work.
Hilti drills are absolutely amazing
once I used an Hilti electric hammer.. It penetrates concrete like a korean sailor in an Hamburg's brothel.. with no resistance and disappointingly fast
EtaCarinae230 hilti hammer drillers are freaking awesome . worked for two companies that would sign out a hilti and dang would it blow through concrete. and chooched on after many ape handed apprentices.
In my country hammer drills are called "Hilti", that gives you an idea how good they are.
It was pretty weird to me back when i was younger and someone says "Oh, he spent XX months working in Germany and i brought home a Makita Hilti" but now I got used to it just like everybody else
Sima, I presume that you are not in the US of America, but even in Pennsyltucky, a "Rotary Hammer" is not called a "Rotary Hammer", just called a Hilti.
Having used one at work from time to time, even being cordless, (typically one battery charged by the time one is spent) and literally being dragged knee deep in mud, I completely see why its reputation precedes itself. AVE just confirms it is a inside and out that it is a Skookum Choocher, and not just "Well I've been using it for years".
Sounds like my experience, A big hammer drill that almost fell through the concrete floor while drilling a 1 inch hole. Good stuff!
Heh, yeah. My cheapy hammer drill was making no dent on some 8" concrete I was trying to drill through. Rented a Hilti hammer drill, put it to the concrete and 15 seconds later I was through. I felt kind-of cheated at an effective rate of $9600 per hour but it was worth it.
Great breakdowns. Your commentary is priceless. Keep em comin.
I'm in love with my black Makita. A joy to use.
Love your enthusiasm on this ^^
AvE,
Your videos are great and the commentary is the best. They remind me of Ricki from the Trailer Park Boys.
My buddy had a Craftsman cordless drill years ago it had a level built into it,it actually helped a little to keep the drill straight.
Hilti are true industry-quality tools. A friend was a Hilti sales rep in the UK and was very confident selling them. I used Hilti TE17 SDS hammer drills when I was installing stadium seating in the '80s and they drilled many thousands of 10mm bolt-holes in pre-cast concrete without isssue. Apart from the flex breaking internally just by the handle, mainly due to pulling on them. I wish I could afford them now.
IT CAN'T BE THAT GOOD WITH PARTS FROM CHINA
"Hilti" has actually become a term for those large concrete breaking tools here in Norway, because the Hilti brand has always dominated that market here.
@@COZMICTOM Just because something is made in China doesn't necessarily mean it's low quality, it depends on the specifications and standards set by the client.
Hiltis nowadays seem to be low quality compared to back then. I can tell cuz the TE-16 rotary hammer is much more reliable than the bullshit they sell now.
@@hakont.4960 In the Balkans, hammer drills are called "hiltis" for the same reason. :)
Loved the review and your truthful candor.
Thanks
I learn more from one AvE video in 20 minutes than I learn in school in 9 months.
I looked at getting one of them 4 way chargers but the batteries do not take long to charge so i went with the single one. Great video. Thanks for sharing.
You're an awesome dude! love the video! Kalamazoo Michigan Loves you! Used Hilti Drills, Hammer Drills and demo hammers at work. In an industrial situation nothing else compares. When you have a tool get the flue the salesman would come by leave a loaner so you have no down time while they take the sick puppy to nurse it back to health! Great company have no complaints. Now if the homeowner with the means buys these for home use, he will be handing these down for generations!
"I've made that mistake before." Too funny.
The molding is amazing on that hilti
I love these videos! :D Always appreciate the mix of humor and engineering.
One of the best intros I've ever heard on TH-cam
I work in a heavy duty truck shop. I wish someone would manufacture cordless tools without the over molding. The rubber gets impregnated with grease.
mission772 Same here, my Snap-On Cordless Impact is ruined aesthetic wise. looks like shit after greasy torture.
mission772 I have a crappy old Makita that I use as my electric screw driver that lacks any rubber over molding, it is a 9222D,
you would need the Ingersoll Rand drills then. The rubber and plastic they use are made for greasy environment and can withstand those harsh grease cleaning solvents if you need to clean your tool.
Clean with carb cleaner
I’m gonna go polish my tool now. That means 2 things....
“ribbed for her pleasure not for his”
- ave
😂🤣
Just turn it inside out 😜
Watching you is almost as entertaining as the content. Good job bro I love your videos. I watch all your videos.
I bought one of these about 10 years + ago. On my second chuck and second battery. We use it for screws and mixing plaster, still going. Worth every penny. The hard case it comes in is still going as well.
I run hilti gear, it’s never let me down. I even dropped my impact driver 21ft from a roof peak and it only split the corner of the rubber on the battery. That was 6 years ago, I can’t imagine how many fixings it has put in since. Faultless
Thank you very much for this video, I watched it awhile ago and used it as a reference yesterxay when taking mine apart to clean after a bunch of masonry dust and crap in it. Lol lent it out big mistake haha. Keep the great videos coming, love the commentary!
I just discovered your channel, you are amazing. Thank you for doing what you do!
This is the best tool related, no, best overall channel ive come across. You could legit do standup
@AvE the rfid you took out is Hilti's way of increasing their efficiency.
If you ever send it in for servicing. as the tool goes round their various benches the work log pops up on each techs screen before they even touch it.
Hilti, apart from amazing quality is also second to none in repair and service on their stuff. they've repaired an sds max drill i've had since the 90's.
First time listening to you, your brilliant, thanks!
Beautiful on the outside and the inside!
I have everything I need for work from Hilti, all battery program, expensive as hell, but worth the money, keeping all batteries in the van during the winter on -15'C and never had a problem for 6 or 7 years now. After all these years using every day still works like new every piece. Before that I had dewalt, it was ok, but Hilti is another level.
I took apart my Metabo drill, their highest spec one and I took out the gears and everything to take a look. I'm certain the Hilti is similar from looking at the vid because when I took out the gears, they're all lined with needle bearings and don't use cheap-o bushings. Pretty incredible. Took me forever to put the gears back in though, that's for sure.
I love how much you love this
I'm about to pick up the SF 6H-A22 and SID 22-A combo kit from the Homeless Despot. I cannot wait! I hear amazing things about the hammer drill.
You've convinced me that Hilti is a cut above the competition. We'll see how it compares to my current Metabo 18v impact.
Watching this guy breakdown the machining quality of old gats with Forgotten Weapons would be like the coolest thing ever.
I don't know anything about your drills but I love your phrases/vocab
I think you refuse to be disappointed by this drill. I have a few new Hilti cordless stuff and think makita's cordless are much nicer. Hilti service is amazing though.
Not that makita are bad in any way
damn I love your videos. found your channel today. already cost me about half a day! keep it on! greets from Switzerland
Boltr .... Home of the "I didn't need that warranty anyway"
im no enginerd but i would say a non-brush-less may just be called a brushed?
Irregardlessly you're correct
Wrong. It's called a (number of brushes) pole DC motor.
In this case, a 4 pole DC motor
adam anthoni ford
good to know
adam anthoni ford I think calling it brushed is still correct. That's like someone calling an old engine a "carburetor engine", as opposed to fuel injection, and someone getting upset, calling everyone wrong, and saying it's a 427 cubic inch "Big Block" chevy engine.
I dont know about you, but I'd rather have someone call an engine a "carburetor engine" than a "non-fuel injection engine", even if they dont know the specifics of the motor they are talking about.
so that's why your not. Magnetic induction.
isnt the brush spring moving through an arc , so as the brushes ware the spring slides from the edge to the centre ?
philip wakeham these things are true.
I use it, them. They work beautifully.
I still have my Hilti SF 144A 14.4 volt cordless set! paid $400 for it new 9 years ago. I have used it for everything from home projects to commercial job sites and it still works! I still use the same batteries they don't last quite as long as they use to but it has to be the best cordless set I have used yet.
Love your reviews , especially after the teardown of the tools .
Can you do a Hilti Impact Drill 18V , i am very interested in adding that to my collection , but want to be safe with my choice .
3:52 " A weeble wobble at the bell end"... i feel your pain bro!
Dude, have to say you've got an impressive array of technical knowledge. Like the sense of humour too :-)
We just had a gang box with 15k woth of hilti delivered to a jobsite. Long gone are our days of defunkt and mondfunkee. Super happy with the sds and vac attachment. The bandsaw is a beast!
i just got one of these with a good battery at a pawn shop for $50. its a bit crusty but it still feels nice. Now i just have to find stolen batteries and a charger for sale
"I've made that mistake before"..... LMAO! hahahaha.....
I can never tell which words are made up and which are actual terms, but im entertained either way. Always good to see what the best of the best is.
Sr much respect great sense of humor
Greetings from the colony of convicts, Australia! Skookum as frig video, as always.
Can we talk about how amazing those knipex channel locks are
Sage advice. For the average home owner, any home depot drill will do. I run a sheet metal shop, and am a journeyman hvac tech. I have owned every brand imaginable, and For me, Hilti is the only way to go. The others I had to replace every year. The Hiltis last at least 5 years, under extremely heavy use.
Ffs! Ave is pushing a million subscribers, congrats, I have been watching for a while.
AvE, you have to take a look at Fein ASCM 18 QM. Full metal gearbox, 4 gears and 3850 rpm on 4th gear. The best machine on the market for metal working.
Well fuck. We wrote basically the same and I am an hour too late.
The difference between a cheap tool and an expensive tool , is the amount you can use it and the punishment it can take my dad bought a Metabo drill had it for decades and gave it to me it was built in West Germany and still goes today.
What do you mean 'goes'? Sounds like a made up word. Does it mean anything like chooch?
Today I realized that one of the only reasons I can appreciate fully the absolute treasure that is my grandpa's old machinist toolbox is your videos. Not this one so much, but so many. I shall get a premium T to celebate by. Rather, to celebrate you.
I used to take all my new toys apart growing up to the detriment of my parents, nice to see that it can lead to a productive and educational channel
I'm partial to Rigid stuff, they usually got decent sales going on, and if you take the time to register the tools you bought, they too do the lifetime service/replacement thing. It's super useful when your batteries take a shit.
IzzyBibBoo B -- wow! A Rigid guy! (No pun intended). You, sir, are one rare bird! In all my years in construction, i thought you guys were just an 'old wives tale'. I'm not knocking the brand, it's just cool to see guys that have brand loyalty to someone other than the 5 main brands!
Bacnow I was just starting out and broke as frig but needed a set of power tools. Found a beat-ass set of old Rigid cordless stuff for $100 on Craig'slist and they treated me well enough to the point where when I finally did smoke a tool, I replaced it with their new brushless line.
17:00 "And don't f*cking tell me: Just take pictures."
"It doesn't work when the part goes flying away!"
F*ck yeah, finally someone with a brain :D
No bubble wrap awesome! We need more people like You!