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Why André 3000 Says He Is TOO OLD To Be A RAPPER
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After this reaction video I listened to André 3000 "New Blue Sun" almost every night as I went to sleep. It's a serene collection of sounds that I'm proud 3 Stacks was able to create and share with us. It will do a lot of good for the culture and for people's mental health long term. I as a Hip Hop fan still wish we had more music from him as a lyricist, but If this brotha is happy, that's all that matters.
I haven't checked it out yet but I plan to. Definitely #1 in my Top 5.
This 🥷🏾 scared! 😂😂😂
well said Brother. I really get what your First reaction was in the first place. But Like we said before sometimes our greats may fail our expectations of them. But we grow and move on from it and get better at Interpreting Life. He is an Aquarius Like me so sometimes we see the world Outside from the place we reside in - what i didnt warm up too was the small instances he was slightly dismissive about matters of the culture ( ? ) but this man HAS seen Success from ways and angles we may Never see in our Lifetime and Aquarius Men Like their Private time. where the Noise is dampened - we think our best in Our own nerdy quirky ways... we are Blessed to witness this man at a time he was there to challenge the sonic Perceptions of Our ears - But Like the Comic Book ( KINGDOM COME ) superman had to retreat alone in his space while the world still have to move. let's love that brother where he at right now and let's carry this baton he left so we can open a new wave of thoughts he would be proud by....
The joint is mad relaxing soul pleasing people who want peace will love this
he's been talking about certain rappers not needing words on their tracks for a few years, i remember specifically Future. My favorite group is Outkast as well
YES!!!
Please rap about your eyesight loss, getting your colon looked at, your aching back, paying taxes, home ownership, changing your diet and exercise regimen, Fatherhood, aging!
We need to hear all of that in the music.
I'm sick and tired of MC's rapping about drugs, chicks, cars, fashion, and money, I want to hear about REAL LIFE, not the fantasy that we're being sold every day, give us the REAL!
It's called Sticman The Workout album
@@2paco Don't buy a Burkin, buy the building. I don't want the car, it depreciates, rather cop the parking lot, it appreciates
Facts
Good point!😂
And just today, I noticed a different pain. I'm on the sideline while he's playin' around. Man, catch me, don't let me slip in no demented stage
Nas - Superhero Status
I'm 47 and I'm still producing and writing rhymes. And yes even though I've only released one independent album back in 2008, I've never lost the passion to write or the passion of loving hip hop and the love of music in general 😎
Music is timeless - great music is great music
It seems people forget his amazing run of feature guest verses for MANY YEARS! His more recent verses (“Scientists & Engineers” which was THIS year on Killer Mike’s album “Michael”) and (“life of the party” his feature on Kanye’s song) shows me he knows what to rap about as a grown man. This is not to talk of ALL THE OTHER amazing features he has done year in and year out. He’s been saying A LOT in those verses!
I have accepted that Andre is not a solo rap artist. He started with his partner Big Boi in Outkast and is comfortable doing features not rapping for a whole album on his own. He’s NEVER done that!!
We all made the mistake of thinking he’s a solo rap artist because of his amazing features and work in Outkast
He’s not the solo rap star we thought. Even his “the love below” side of that double disc had only one full rap song
He is still a legend just not a solo rap artist and i respect his right to express himself however he chooses. He owes us NOTHING.
I pulled over when I heard this song the first time on the radio in general. I have not felt excitement and chills like that in years, I Googled it so quickly 😂
@@StreetCars101TVhahaha it is 🔥🔥🔥
Yeah that track on Killer Mike album was dope! Soon as I heard about it I jumped on it! We’ll hear from him again I just think it’ll be in this way or form. I still haven’t listen to this album but after seeing this I guess I will. Lastly, his transition out of the life is what he don’t want to give up to make robot music. If he going to interject himself back into society it’ll only be for music that moves his soul. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So I’m going to get my hang drum bc I bet 3000 would love it and it pairs well with that flute sound and meet him at that laundry Mat with bars & sounds and chai green tea and see what type of music we can make. I’ll keep you posted Curtis
Thank you. And he killed those 2 verses you mention. He still has it, but I’m ok if he doesn’t want to drop a full project. Stankonia and Aquemini will hold me over
Dre isn’t just a rapper he can sing play instruments go ahead Dre don’t let the haters get to you they’re jealous of the fact you can play the flute that’s talent right there within itself people expect you to do a rap album if you don’t want to you don’t have to
"Track record is one thing, the right now is a whole nother". Who's to say he isn't being an example for young artists. Being true to yourself is a great way to live. He's found another love in playing an instrument. Power to Andre. ✌
He is in limbo. He grew up. His perspective is different. He would rather leave the public with his Outkast recordings. He doesn't want to ruin his run. The flute album was a SMART move. HE IS A MUSICIAN. He wants to make different kinds of music. He doesn't want to be stuck as a RAPPER.
Why is rap the only genre people have to “grow out of”? Difference of prospective shouldn’t have someone change genres.
He grew up out of what they expect from him as an artist.@@LordAyeR
@@LordAyeRYou aren't listening. Andre doesn't want to rap anymore. It isn't that rap is a genre to grow out of.
@@softlifeASMR I feel that. But the verse on Scientists and Engineers is something I could expect in an album from him. He doesn’t have to box himself in either.
@@LicoriceLain then why not just say that instead of all the excuses on why he won’t rap? Tbh he should have to explain himself, but when he does it really don’t make sense.
Aint that the whole problem with rap...we push the young high school mindsets to the front while shunning the wisdom n mindsets of marurity...thats why so many are unplugging from rap culture
Imagine him dropping an album and it getting picked apart by todays internet … I see why he doesnt want to put out a rap album too
That part todays internet really doesn’t make sound decisions for themselves. It’s like people automatically hate or overly like something. I can see why he’s been hesitating about releasing an album.
@@AikiraBeats its a bad climate to drop real art hands down … any real art dropped will just get picked apart and devalued.. I truly dont blame him .. although us real art buffs are highly disappointed …
I can understand where he is coming from he has reached that age where he has outgrew rap but he still loves music
Same here I have that same mentality
People need to stop putting a age on hip hop you have a lot of dope spitters that do this for the love of hip hop the hunger will never go away dope lyrics will never fade away
There's no age on any genre besides Hip hop, think on that. Nobody says anything about 50 year old singers in R&B.
He's my favorite rapper too. Even went to all three of their shows in Atlanta dressed up as him from the skew it on the bar b video haha. If making a flute album or an album of any genre makes him happy then I support it. I would rather him make the music he wants than force the music he's pressured to make.
I am absolutely offended by his statement about why he doesn't rap anymore. It seems he supports the ageism established by the mainstream industry. Feels like this is his job as a socially successful and mainstream influencer of this culture. I call GATEKEEPER vibes with his rhetoric. Disappointed immensely.😢
He’s talking about himself lmao how you offended about someone’s opinion of themself.
Ageism? That has nothing to do with this. He’s just stating his opinion. No one is stopping him from rapping.
Exactly I said the same thing
@@JEFFMAN90 bro took what he said and made a whole narrative that he never said. All he stated was that HE doesn't have anything he personally wants to rap about or rather drop a whole ass album about at his current age. It's not saying people his age can't rap or do dope music in rap, he's just currently not seeing himself doing that.
And that's his choice.
@@Echo-nn8dtexactly people say Erykah is to blame for this she’s not cause after OutKast’s 1st album Dre decided to go another direction people want Dre to be just a rapper people should let that man be himself it’s his life his choice
He’s not a “shit popper” type of rapper, some dudes u just turn on the beat and they go, he’s more of a storyteller, poetic type of rapper
Dre should do what he wants people shouldn’t pressure him to do a rap album if he says no it’s no Dre is his own man people blame Erykah for Dre’s choice to not rap how is Erykah responsible for Dre’s choices before he met her Dre wanted to be different
“Be what you want them to be”
You’re right. Im writing that down and applying it. Thanks for another dope video and a new perspective 🙏🏽
tbh idk why people are so pressed about him not wanting to rap. He is a real artist and rapping is just another medium to him. If he doesn't feel like he can express himself through the medium of rap and could do it better through instrumentation and wind instruments, then that's him being true to himself and his output, It's the most authentic expression he can make at this moment. The last thing I would want from him is to put out rap music that he doesn't fully stand behind. He's clearly happy with himself, and he wasn't happy when fans were pestering him about dropping a rap album. I feel like some people who are only rappers and not into other forms of art don't understand this. It's like ya'll feel like him not wanting to rap is a slap to the face or sum and feel the need to sound like you're offended. He is a human being not just a rapper, he doesn't owe anyone jack sh**. If he wants to play the flute then thats what yall going to get.
Yeah people like LL Cool J is saying Dre should get Big Boi & do another album but if Dre doesn’t want to it’s his choice let Dre be himself
I can only speak for myself. I write better lyrics since I've gotten older. I used to only write battle rap. Now I write on many subjects: politics, social issues, metaphysical, matters of the heart. As long as I'm living and walking around this piece, I always got something to write about whether I am emceeing or singing. I can't speak about anyone else.
I’m with you!
Facts! I started out as an off the top freestyle rapper. As I’ve gotten older, I started to focus on being more of a writer, and I find that I have a lot more ti say now than when I was younger.
Same
Nobody wanna hear that tho😮
Final thoughts portion. I ran it back like 29 times in a row. 😂. At 41, I got more to prove on the mic, than I did at 19. DIY
I think what it comes down to, he definitely sound fearful, and maybe as an older person, he doesn't have an interesting life, because if you're doing interesting things, u can talk about it through art, we wanna hear that, like a Jay-Z, Nas, Eminem
My girl said it best we can't Expect our favorite artist to make music or rap forever. They have to evolve and grow. It is our nature as human beings. Trust me, I am an artist too. And I'm going through it. It's just human nature.
Respects to Andre for doing the art he wants to do but you're never too old to rap. I feel like he's making that excuse because he's not inspired to rap anymore. He should've just said that instead of feeding into the ageism bs that is ruining the genre of rap
I can't agree with you more!!!
If he said it people would still be boo
My favourite rapper all time, but this shows clearly that he’s more than that. This decision as an artist, to choose a lane for himself is once again inspirational, and an example of what hip hop is to me too. Attitude and energy to go against the grain, and it’s more than rap.
Andre 3K is Hip Hop’s Bill Waterson (Calvin & Hobbes)
Why you say that
The thing about 3 Stacks as a rapper is that he always gave us memorable VERSES, not necessarily songs. His biggest songs as a solo artist, at lest to me, are Hey Ya and Prototype, and he didn’t rap in either of those. I’d love to see what it’ll be like if he put out an album of just verses, or compilation album that doesn’t require him to have to be the only one rapping.
Im not sure if he meant "old" so much as just "seasoned." He's written hundreds of songs already. He's said what he needed to say. Depleted isnt necessarily defeated. It can just mean "content."
I'm a nobody with no kind of fan base , 30+ years on the raps. I truly love this stage I'm in the best, honest,real,and only for the love. gives me shudders to think some amazing artists would miss it🤷♂️
Allow him to mature and grow on his own terms. I actually admire his decision to live his life according to his own beliefs. For some people, a time comes where they make choices to move on and that’s a part of their own growth as individuals. Andre 3000 is a grown man and is making is own decisions. I say, Kudos to him!! He also seems to be in a peaceful space….
Fire 🔥 video brother 🙌 im 37 and just starting too write songs so if we cant get that Colonscopy track from Curtiss King either, you can count on me.
I feel that 3stacks doesn’t want to drop his FIRST SOLO ALBUM cuz he’s going to feel the critique n bashing of the internet, n this “so-called GOAT” convo will then disappear n no one would ever mention his name so he’s going to decide to not drop his first solo album so his name could still be mention in the GOAT conversation.
It's like i can feel where he's coming from, but at the same time HE'S WHAT'S MISSING. of course nothing feels right, hip hop always gotta be resurrected and it's easy to lose interest when it's so oversaturated and literally EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE A RAPPER/PRODUCER. almost to the point where it just feels like it's brainwashing us as an hyper influenced community.
💯hiphop could definitely use that outlast type of music. I’d listen to anything he’d want rap about
I saw some documentary a couple years ago about KRS1's brand new album and world tour of the time, and was shocked that dude seemed like he'd lost neither a step nor breath. He sounded just like my memory of how he sounded on the decades ago live BDP album, with his "🗣️BOO"s just as booming as ever
What I'm trying to say is that I think KRS has obtained the Fountain of Youth somehow and I'm not surprised.
Nobody asking 3 stacks to be hey ya at 48 🤣 Curtiss made my day 🥦🔥
hahaha
After watching Pete and Bas you could never be too old to rap
Here lies a man who has EVOLVED beyond rap. The person he’s transcend to can’t relate. I understand where he’s coming from.
There was a point in time I could’ve been one of the biggest artists in the world. I was well in my way, but things changed in my life which cause me to change.
I now have no desire to do music like I once did. I’m now more interested in filmmaking and fashion design than I am music. I wish him nothing but peace and happiness.
No. The stuff yall saying would have destroyed art in general if people really thought that way throughout human history.
One thing he understands his time in rapping is over so if he is doing his Pharoah Sanders Spiritual jazz thing more power too him he might get a nomination from the Grammy's for best jazz flute performance 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He’s not too old to be a rapper, he’s just too damn soft. He ain’t got the heart or the nuts for it anymore so he’d rather play the flute. Sad state of affairs.
Calling him "too soft" shows you aren't familiar with his catalog, but if you are, then you simply don't understand the bars.
Ayoooooo🤣
Lame take
What does being "soft" have to do with being a rapper?
@@generalnsjI grew up listening to that nigga, but I stand by what he said. He’s soft. He lacks confidence. He’s apathetic. That’s weak shit.
I met Andre at NAMM last year, barely noticed him with his COVID mask on 😅 he was mad cool to talk to, and even took a picture with me. I rarely ever get starstruck, but I'm a huge Outkast fan and I was nervous as hell to approach him! I already got that vibe from him that he's not on the hip hop vibe when I asked him if he was still working on music. I just want dude to be happy, and if playing the flute does that for him, so be it. But not gonna front, I really hope he comes out with one last hip hop album at some point.
Nas is proof that Age can't deny Artistry. 6 ALBUMS IN 2 YEARS!!! Enough said.
But as long as 3 Stacks is happy right?💯
“I’ve been waiting for me” god damn that shit hit me 🙏🏽
Bums me out that 3 stacks feels like that. I think of other older rappers still putting out great albums. Nas is at a new peak in his 50's. Outcast or a Andre 3000 solo album could drop today and it would be huge.
In a way... I'm glad I didn't put in work trying to become a star. Having to live your life based on what others want and feel they want from you to make them feel good about themselves has got to be frustrating and mentally nerve wrecking. One reason I stopped writing love ballads, was because the reality of being in a relationship rarely matched genuine love. A woman or man, is usually involved for some kind of gain, especially if you turn out to not be what they want. I don't create my music based on what people want to hear... I'm the "Artist", I create music to be listened to. If you don't like it, go buy a Rap Album! He has a right to become a full grown man; he can't continue being a child forever, saying and doing what he did in early life: why is this so hard for people to understand? He's new... with a fresher idea that expresses who he is, how he feels, and what he's thinking. There's nothing wrong with him, there's something wrong with ya'll. Peace
People blame Erykah for this it’s Dre’s choice we all have our choices to make
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music in general is a rough road even the music listeners are are put in the death box on what they should listen to it seems like hes giving up on his freedom and thats not healthy...
Exactly
He feels out of touch , I understand it. It's something you have to want to work out of.
What is causing it
rapprehensive: the fear, anxiety and hesitation to rap.
I think you are missing what Andre is actually doing.. he’s prioritizing his feelings and emotional well being over commerce. As someone who’s close I. Age to Andre and been in the industry.. it’s more about being human and living life than trying to create art for the masses. You got his catalogue.. let’s be happy with that.
Yeah people are putting words in Dre’s mouth saying Erykah made him stop rapping like blaming her is gonna get him to drop a rap album what’s wrong with people
It’s a journey of the spirit, we all go through different stages. I can’t rush nobody, I’m a creative, and I know the pain 😂. Lowkey the album would set so many anime/game bgs, and be so tough.
I honestly respect this. So many legends don't walk away without destroying their "legend" status.
And you end destroying the legacy they left behind.
Music industry can be very depressing
#factz it’s crazy I neva thought Andre 3000 would think like that hey he needs a #hug he can talk about anything and it would pop he #trippin he don’t wanna guide the youth he not understanding how many look up to him 🤦🏾♀️ 🤦🏾♀️ 😮😮😮
#santana on point ur ❤
man i was born in atl been a outkast fan since 2000 have all there CDs till this day i understand exactly how you feel man but respect to 3k
Not the juice Pac line LMAO!!🤣
I don't know if you heard already, but Andre 3000 did do a feature on Killer Mike's Album "Michael - Scientists & Engineers ft. Future & Eryn Allen Kane." Str8 🔥.
I believe I understand where he is. I have asked myself the question bow long do I want to do this. I am a producer writer recording artist and overall I just love to create. I'm sure I can always find something from my life to speak on. However, when will I do whatever else there is to do. I love 3 stacks but I stopped waiting for him to drop "THE" Album not because of belief in skill but because I believe in his artistry. His flute Album inspired me more because I've always wanted to drop an album of nothing but guitar and never did. Look at my number 1 though. He said I don't feel like rapping and pulled out the woodwind 😂. I believe the meaning in this is we don't have to rap forever and we can stop or pursue other passions of so desired and that alone moves me. Thank you for posting this video and sorry for the long read lol.
nobody is giving credit to this man + how ahead they were writing the stuff they were + making the sounds they were. it’s why he’s always called one of the greats even *if* he don’t have a solo (which is a weird goalpost to prop up but y’all have fun lol).
he ain’t got nothing to talk about cause he’s said everything + thass what artists do. they go live life + experience + learn + put that in their work. and that work is wherever they wanna put their energy. nobody understood that man but the people around him + the one next to him and it shows. let him breathe.
Loving your vids Curtiss. 🙌🏻💥😎
3 Stacks tripping mayne…When he was in his 20’s his lyrical content was much older than his age,guess what we loved it…Now he’s actually in mid life and i thank now that we’ve grown as well and our mindset and vocabulary has grown and his raps would be more effective today to our ears now than ever!!!
He tripping he needs to start back rapping as a producer and artist and a fan of real
lyrics and bars to relate to,music is art…
Art is ageless…
People want a rap album from Andre. If you’re not a rapper or artist in general then you wouldn’t understand what Andre is talking about and how he feels about art.
Dude already got the bag, he doesent need to prove anything to anyone.
I feel like he was at such a high level of hip-hop, that he feels like any reentry into rap needs to either be at that level or just not put out at all. All he's used to is the competitive game of rap that he participated in.
I kind of Feel like I've had to settle for Tyler because Andre has been a Ghost. Tyler is Great but No one is 3k No one.His art had a Freedom that we all can embrace. The Freedom to be yourself.
I'd rather this than seeing dudes like The Game mess up everything for themselves
its hard to get out of that space.
I think it’s deeper then what he’s saying I bet he’s still under contract which stops him from making music with his vocals on it because who ever owns him is gonnna make the majority of the money.
I love hiphop but the culture of it rejects mature content. I honestly hopes he Atleast drops an EP.
3:11 timing and momentum. The only artists that last are the ones who play instruments this looks better on you as a accomplished older man. He already surpassed the rap thing. Just like miles Davis went for doing jazz to experimental electronic music. Hip hop is kids music, this is the perfect example of the fact that there is much more to black artists than making fools of them selves. Most want to keep it that way 🤔 listened to the whole album, it’s an awesome piece of work, I need a vinyl of it.
A rapper named Triple J from West Palm Beach has a song called " black man " where he talks about getting colonoscopy. He said say it " colonoscopies Go get them polypse popped , treat your body light your Impala drop at the body shop." .. And he's an older rapper. I think Andre just doesn't relate to the culture the way he used to. And that's okay he's already a legend.
Maybe he doesnt want to be part of the circus industry drama, he too old for that.. Being ant Artist is very stressfull worse than been a Stock trader... He cool
I agree with you @curtisskingtv ! He is my favorite rapper is well. But I think this project released he of any expectations to be great.
people were made at Radiohead when they took their music into an electronic direction, paranoid android is the greatest album of all time where are you supposed to go from that? its the same reason why Eminem doesn't do concept rap anymore just battle rap. What applies to artist that reached the highest level in their field is just going in a different direction, it always feels sad when our favourite artist don't make the same styles anymore but going in a different direction is natural progress. I haven't listened to Andre's flute album yet but i love that he finally found to create art in a genre something that would be scary for most from hip hop. When your at his level and you don't have anything to prove and money is good, i would assume you would want to offer something you think the world would need, hence the flute album.
Listening to Andre 3000 play the flute is like watching Michael Jordan play baseball. Its cool but a waste of a gift. I was watching an interview with Andre where he said he gave a lackluster performance in one of the previous Outcast reunions in 2014 and he got a phone call from Prince. Prince said to him, " You know what your problem is? You don't understand how good you really are." 48 is not old. He is old because in his mind he thinks he's old. He lacks the confidence he may have had when he was younger. I wish someone could work with him to get that swagger back.
He said he don’t have no raps “Like That” which implies to me that he may not have much but he has something. 😂 He kinda blew me with the age thing, too but I respect it and feel like he just had to get this flute album out of him before he works on a real rap album..
Pure FEAR coming out of the mouth of Andre 3000’s mouth here. Similar to Hearing Bill Whithers speak in his documentary before he left us. Just let fear lie to him. Like he ain’t one of arguably the GREATEST songwriter of all time.
put that v neck sweater on me 🤣🤣🤣
The world needs a Silksonic X André 3000 album. 🔥🔥 🔥
funny thing is if you take the tracklist and think of andre flowing it from top to bottom. it literally is flow. But real talk he quit the rap game 17 years ago and he said it himself fame sucks. He just did what he did for a better life. mission accomplished he’s done. play the ambient music.
Ehhh. Im admittedly divided on this topic...I disagree with 3000s viewpoint on continuing to "rap" at his age, but at same time, in THIS current era, I can understand not being inspired by much 😕... when you don't love something anymore, you can't force it...I've had that feeling before as a producer so I get it...
Shoutout to Kanye for getting him on “Life Of The Party.” It Probably was the last rap song he’ll ever do.
He is terrified of losing the love and the respect or worse failure.
The pedestal we put him on is so high he can't look down at the humanity and the simplicity of art.
an apple on a tree, on your hand, in your belly and in the toliet is art.. It is as easy as that. your mere perspective alone is art. nothing more nothing less.
I just want my favorite rapper to be happy… underrated statement 💯
Let's talk about that Outro song, tho 😅😂😂
I respect his honesty. If he doesn’t have anything to talk about don’t force it. That could create bad music.
There’s a lot of bad rap out now and one of the reasons is because it’s forced 🥶
Ain’t know you tied with Baton Rouge 🥾 salute 🫡 💯
Rap isn't art if you can't age and be appreciated
Read that line again and understand it
Set up an interview Curtis have that talk with Andre’
This is the same guy who said hold up the south got something to say he the reason we even got any attention at all
Salute 3stack❤❤❤❤
They paying him to say that. You never to old to do anything!!! That’s people opinion.
I'm 40 and I completely understand. You gonna rap about 401k's, prostate medicine and parent teacher conferences. What hoodlums, guns and drugs he gonna tell you about? He's not Suge Knight still saying he'll have people handled at 60.
I can understand why Americans are like wtf with Andre. People in that country think they can be and act like a 17 years old for the rest of life. 3000 is talking real. Talking reality.
MZ Badoo
Messed his head up, acting like a thot
Eminem is 3 years older than him🤯🤯🤯 I thought he was older because he was in the game way before him .
Hes now blabbering about age but when he was rapping buddy never tapped about anything that required to be young. One thing is admitting you got no ideas or feelings another thing is putting a law into effect socially on a genre of music bruh
Who said we want him to make new music? To just tour would be nice.
I had a mtv music generator .i think i learned how to make beats from that
I overstand his notion being apprehensive
You can rap about anything. He's spooked.
Andre knows he can destroy folks if he wanted too
André 3000 is raps Barry Sanders
When he said he wouldn’t have anything to talk about, I had to call bullshit. I say this because he can talk about what everybody else is talking about, but in his own way. Listen to the “Int’l Players Anthem ( I Choose You). They are all talking about getting women. He did it in his own way!
11:28 I wanna hear him sing over his flute