Why Tunecore INSTANTLY DELETED 23 Albums by Benn Jordan
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- Why Tunecore INSTANTLY DELETED 23 Albums by Benn Jordan
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"You went from being underpaid to being interns." That statement hits hard. I hope people are paying attention.
I hope he sues the F out of them! This situation needs a class action lawsuit
I agree. All these tech companies are out of control!
The problem is when you read their terms of service you probably realize they can do what they want.
@@peoplelikefrankdoesn’t matter. There’s laws
The more stories that come out about DSP’s, hell any artist about their experiences with labels & such the more you realize going to direct to consumers is the way to go. This is the new movement.
This is the point of blockchain music
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All I know is a lot more people started coming to my shows once I got on streaming, that being said yeah I make less money on the streaming services that I do doing shows, so if my level is a chicken or the egg situation
“You will own nothing and be happy “
You won’t even own your own history
stop saying that bs its time we as people do some shit
Klaus is happy to rent it to you.
@the6thkind
Sorry bro but honestly think about it. If all the banks, politicians, corporations, armies are aware of this and letting it happen, it’s because they know it’s gonna happen.
The consumers and citizens of the world aren’t gonna do anything because there is no alternative society. No one with their flags are gonna stop a total society monetary shift.
They’ve conditioned people to accept it. People stopped owning music a like time ago , physically, then movies went steaming, then streamers and channels (working from home) is the norm. Then every app you ever use sells your info. All your social activity is logged online.
They want a cashless society which is being implemented to right now, so if you anger anyone, you’re money isn’t available. And what if you have money and all you can do is rent anyways? What’s your money good for.
Who can stop all that? I believe in Jesus so this stuff was bound to get here , but things get worse before they get good. Humanity is a sinking ship .
Sorry to be bleak but good wins ultimately and there is nothing to worry about if your with God, otherwise, there is no salvation coming from anywhere else.
They own the world for now. We got the prophecy though , we know who wins and what it’s all about .
I like how we all know what that means and we’re lowkey freaked out
I already responded with a big response and the powers at be removed it , maybe it’s in your notifications
This is wild. It isnt like you upload music to Tunecore for free
A gentle reminder:
Buy your tangible books and other things of value to you.
Don’t just rely on your stuff on the cloud always being available to you. Especially books on history. Tech. Your History
This is great content bro! Thank you for keeping us updated. It’s honestly horrifying to think they just take ur music down and not even warn you. It’s ridiculous, there’s a big shift coming. A New era is close.
If you are an upcoming artist.... this is what you need to watch!! 💪🏽 know the structure but have fun. But know the structure
I actually find these "artists versus tech companies" vids very interesting (and relevant to all us). Did you hear Facebook deleted Charles Berthoud's account with NO explanation or correspondence what so ever? Could you get him for an interview?
They can be sued for disruption of fame and destruction of evidence, as well as loss of profit.
Top Music Attorney, on YTube, is also discussing shady Tune Core practices of pocketing royalties from artists. She's currently representing an artist and discussing how illegal one of their terms in the contract is. Totally fascinating what's going down across so many distributors right now.
I concur with many artists claiming to shift into a direct to consumer business model.
🎉 I'm super stoked! 🎉🎉🎉
It’s crazy once my songs start to get traction and added to peoples playlist and income start to come in on these DSPs boom removed and guess which one it was from….Tune Core. Thanks for spreading the word bro. I get it now you have to believe in trust in your vision full out. Keep doing what your doing brother I fully support all independent artist we got this 💯
You're right, it's a weekly thing now with these distros. I no longer believe this is unintentional. This is marketing prepping us artists for some kind of rollout
The only way Spotify can fix any of this is to pay artists NON exclusively like they did Rogan. ALONG WITH putting them on all these playlists that aren't algorithm based it's selective AF. I should add Curtiss to my for artists teams to just watch how they move especially the Discovery Mode
Just keep the original mp3 or wave files. I'm just speaking to everyone. Follow those dreams.
Stop downloading video games , buy the disc you can trade it in and get some of your money back , you don't own downloaded games they are the same price as a hard copy disc how and why?
@@Tut-Judahi pirated the download game anyway 🤷🏻♂️ discs? Nah, Roms.
@@Tut-JudahAren't most physical video games nowadays incomplete and rely on downloadable content??
@@poppinc8145games are 75 bucks if you dont like them you get no refund if you have the cd you can get apercentage of your money back , most people will not buy a DLC for trashy game just sell or trade it in you will feel better about wasting your money
9:39 Its a similar reason why I value hardware equipment as a producer. I saw what Waves did with their subscription model in early 2023, and it made me look at virtual plugins as something I'm renting, not owning. I have since invested in old-school samplers and tape machines to get that gritty sound I love. The best part is that no company can take those away. Here's a video that really sparked that belief for me. It goes beyond music and talks about cameras, typewriters, etc:
th-cam.com/video/puXzZ7_p4NQ/w-d-xo.html
I’ve proudly stolen from waves since 2011
this is disgusting!!! i have never had a dsp (outside of the free trial) and this is why, all the music i have i own
Every time I see one of your videos, I get a little more inspired for the DTC game. Excited to see how many lives I can actually start to impact with my music this year.
As I stated on a previous post it's not about his music being pulled down it's more about the consistent payout for a high streaming independent artist 🤷🏾♂️ this will be more common going forward.
Tom MacDonald just mentioned not long ago that tunecore removed Facts due to "clash of values" or some such malarkey.
I'll be perfectly content with making music at home for my own amusement/enjoyment BECAUSE SHARING MY TALENTS WITH THE WORLD APPARENTLY MEANS GETTING TF ROBBED BLIND AND DEAF.
It happened to me and it was a mental blow. I produce positive music and had started gaining traction due to a few listening parties and hastaging everything. 1.5 million streams for something positive and then boom, removed no warning, no nothing. Who has the capitol to fake streams other than the industry? Independent artist are gaining traction and the industry doesn't want to compete. Physical media on the way!
If they said "We wont pay you till what we owe you reaches a certain dollar amount." Rather than saying "You need to have so many monthly listeners or we won't pay you." That could at least be somewhat understandable, still kind of shady due to the interest they would make off of you for holding your payout, but it is 100% indefensible to not pay out artist what so ever!
I'm out here selling CDs while all y'all not 😂 💰
You're absolutely right. The abuse must stop.
When are Artists are going to back to CD it just make sense now
Foolcore been giving ppl issues. I was with Tunecore, they did the same. Then later on OneRpm done the same every year removing albums.
So which dps do you use? I had two of songs recently taken down by tuncore and I am thinking of re uploading them on Landr.
Bro do more videos on this . They’re going insane rn deleting everyone’s music. this is insane . not even one single . They’re just booting artists off the platform.
AI BOTS RUNNING THE DELETE BOTTON 😂
These companies are indeed broke. They can't keep up with the amount of songs being released
Doesn’t make sense though, no other platform has this problem, TH-cam doesn’t have this problem and there’s more creators on TH-cam then Spotify Artists. Music business has always been shady.
@@snapkrr companies have to pay for licensing yet the issue is Spotify taking profits from artists to pay people like joe rogan. Mind you that other expenses are at play as well like employees, server, app development or management, taxes, etc. Financially it looks good on paper but they are literally horrible of financial development in areas they should be focused on. If they was to increase the overhead and market share pay the artists first that alone is better than what rogan can bring in. Happy artists would equal more free promotion for the company yet atp no artist wants to deal with a company who doesn't have us in it's best interest.
I have had this very thought since the beginning of these music streaming services. I have never subscribed to one of these services. I prefer to have physical possession of the music I love!
Been a proud member of route note for 11 years now. My music still up but no tik tok
This is an eye opener to me as a fan AND as an artist
At least we don't see bad info on CD baby. Hopefully they're staying legit as they are OGs.
CDBABY THE BEST!
If you notice you never hear this affecting The Orchard, Ingrooves, Fuga, believe, symphonic, empire or any of the other major distributors. Now granted these distribution companies I’ve listed for the most part will not work with just anyone. Even with that said these are the distribution services artists should be working towards doing business with. Now you aren’t going to get 100% of your royalties most of these are 90/10 or 85/15 deals. But guess what you get label managers and actual humans to work with when you have issues. Moral to the story leave distrokid, tunecore and all these low level distributors.
Also, In rainbows by radiohead was the first pay what you want on a major level and they banked
I like cdbaby, pay once and be done. No subscription nonsense and when I die, they stay online for my fans to enjoy. All these other dsp that take down your music like distro, tune and united masters.
This makes me feel very uncomfortable as a person who doesn't have a social media footprint yet. How can I trust these distributers knowing that they can terminate your life in a single click. Too much control, I think I'll just build my fan base slowly and release my music on vinyl, cd and digital downloads... this music industry isn't fair at all man. Art is such a precious and delicate form of expression... these heartless cun*s running these distribution sites don't give a soliterary fu** about anyone but themselves
Great to see more coverage on “The Flashbulb Situation”, excellent takes!
Thanks for the consistent Sage advice. 🔥💪🏼
That already happened to me 12 years ago. If you stop paying, then they will remove your music like it never existed.
Same here
Thats different
I’m definitely f*cking with direct to consumer content. I think the biggest thing with consumers and streaming platforms is the convenience and ease of use.
How do we as artists allow our fans to experience our content in a streamline way the both convenient and easy to use?
I don’t believe reverting back to CDs is the way/answer. The way in which to listen to a CD would be way to inconvenient. I think the person to solve this problem will be on to something revolutionary.
Yea this is getting insane I just seen 2 of my albums took down but I do also press cds and have custom flash drives and I did start releasing back on my bandcamp almost one yr ago so yea I see ima have to really go back heavy on my cds
Now, its beginning to not make sense for customers either. I was looking for one of my favorite artists on Spotify and couldn't find them anymore either. Someone needs to revamp vinyl and CD players again. Because they may be needed.
I think they are taking out indie artist who are making Spotify pay large amount of money. I wonder how many big indie artist have been taking out... and the podcast boom is dying off, this year or next year podcasts will be died.
Spotify pays royalties based on market share, there's so many indie artists that the majors are losing market share
@@Dihmarko ohhh I forgot they're a public company
Bain Beats here, Every platform is doing this nonsense! Guarenteed capital recovery of the DSP's and monitors while eliminating their own competition upon the back of artist!
This gets to be seen by all independent artists
This happened myself, I’m deadly serious, vanished
Dope Video.🎉
Chad u the best🔥
Look here everybody,Alll you have to do is sue them and have them prove it. They can’t that simple. Plus if they remove your music just know they also profit off your ish the same music they claim was fake stream.
Yeah I still have my vinyl from the 1990s (some of it going back decades before that), it has outlived the 10 or so harddrive crashes I have had over the years. And it will probably outlive my canceling from the cloud when the powers that be no longer deem me a legitimate accessor of the internet due to not serving their intentions. The only vinyl acetate that didn't survive sadly was one that was from the 1920's or 1930s and shattered when it was dropped. Be careful if you are buying shellac records. I also think vinyl is more survivable than CD but doesn't have the same fidelity. Generally 78s are made of a brittle material which uses a shellac resin (thus their other name is shellac records). During and after World War II when shellac supplies were extremely limited, some 78 rpm records were pressed in vinyl instead of shellac (wax), particularly the six-minute 12" 78 rpm records
All of us are driven by the major record labels. This is the way of removing the competition. Which is the fear that independent artists had when Spotify announced those changes last year. Even a prominent player at Disc Makers who had a video on TH-cam urging artists to fight back by contacting Congress and their distributors. On that video I told him that the distributors will not have our back and this shows it.
I’m in the music- thanks 🙏🏼 for all this
So glad I haven't signed up with Tunecore. I hope Routenote is not shady like that.
Amuse has also removed all of my music from streaming platforms last week, for alleged "fake streams", which is just a joke.
I’ve never stopped buying cd’s and vinyl. Streaming is shite for all parties involved.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 killlin' the content
Strong arming and controlling promotion of all artist must be the new trend from labels and Spotify. I don’t think CD is the answer because of how obsolete CD players are. I think we need a new media designed and used for artist only. Don’t let major labels use it. This would give exclusivity to artist and independents. I don’t exactly know how yet but it needs to be done.
these DSPs will remove especially if your aren't signed these streaming platforms look the other way when record labels do it because they make money off it. independent artists winning without a label is money loss for streaming.
But we dont have cd players and some of the newest computer dont seem to have CD SO WHAT DO WE DO?
Thanks for sharing @Curtiss King, something tells me a mass exodus from DSP’s is coming. The Bob Marley “Exodus”song comes to mind.
[Verse 2]
Yeah-yeah-yeah, well!
Uh! Open your eyes (And look within)
Are you satisfied? (With the life you're livin'?) Uh!
We know where we're goin', uh!
We know where we're from
We're leavin' Babylon
We're goin' to our Fatherland
"sigh, time to re activate Myspaces again"
No Tunecore then.
This hit home!!!!!!!!!!
You reupload it and you can keep the streams. There’s a way.
Being honest too bro by law is not up to dsp to police if copy right infringe is happening with each artist material submitted its up to the owner of music work or label them to find out on there's own on at most asap not dsp period dsp is a service you pay yo upload content if you believe you have all rights no where it says you need paper work besides I know a guy who paid license to use a loop or best sample remix and still got rejected they didn't refund him again he had proof but even not youtube don't police this issue if so there is a chance comeback like FB say no this my original after that it's up to label if they wanna proceed it's dry switching to me
Entitlement and Greed is why we can't have nice things. Now we gotta go back to physical which is Cool and I have a lot of physical. Digital stuff is Really cool if we could just let it run it's course instead of forcing it into what we have now.
It seems like to me the record companies taking out their competition, in the words of Lauryn Hill KIL*IN EM SOFTLY...smh
Same with DJing they take music down all the time. Have physical media
The industry is screaming for block chains!
Go sue them tell them to show the proof of the AI streamd ?????
Corporate greed at it's worse. The money grab is getting worse by the day/month/year. Got to get them CDs made again.
I bought your album physically but sir are you going to remove Distrokid from your links in the video? I know it will help an artist wanting to work with them. But by the series of videos you have it seems like you gotta stand on business.
Good look. Had no idea they were still there. 💪🏽 deleting from video descriptions today
Damded, they going the sane rout of MTV... Remember when MTV had music... And now, I don't even know what da frik they do. But it's not music as a primary. These damded dsp's are maybe doing us a favor to create new hubs for music producers and listeners to find ways to keep the music they love close to them, out of a virtual collective cloud 🤯🤯🤯
That’s why skii said this would happen so you have to go back to making CDs and cassettes and selling your product by your self. The streaming shit is bullshit.
THANKYOU!
I got the Strategy. HMU we get you right 💯✔️🗣️🥶👽
Tunecore is the hell and more other distributors the day comes when they wish they didnt do that. They thay comes where you distribut in other ways and then this scam ends.
will kanye make a music distribution service. cd baby snd distrokid removed all my songs
Tidal does a better job of getting new music to consumers.
spotify probably gets paid by shopify to drive artist customers to their services regardless of whether you make profit or not
So can we make our own distribution service or what
Im taking my stuff down DTC
We can't even call this unfair anymore... This it out right theft... $500k gone in one weekend... Somebody tell me tell me bandcamp is still for the artists... Because at this rate, we'll have to do it ol' school
It is for the most part, but bear in mind I'm speaking as a consumer who's supported hella artists there for the past decade.
*Man you broke it all the way down..*
I wonder, if the DSPs are broke, have they created an algorithm. That keys in on Artists that they're gonna have to pay in the future more than they would like. So the Artists get flagged and one they are about to reach the threshold for the Big Payout. They get Censored for Bot Activity.?
Yeah cuz everyone knows DSPs steal the money that’s the whole business
You need to launch a Boycott Tunecore campaign asap. These people needs to be held accountable for their lack of accountability. The least they could have done is warn the client beforehand!
Why aren't more TH-camrs and podcasters talking about this?? Benn Jordan should try to get on Joe Rogan, Tim Dillon, Joe Budden, Breaking Points or some other show with a big audience.
So you telling me you have no dirt I know T OCD baby because that’s who I deal with and I hope they’re not going down the same road
Streaming is good but owning the actual copy of the album will forever be the best option
Preach
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Just go back, selling CDs and cassettes screw the music industry
Didn’t UMG just buy a bot spotting app lol
What?what?????😮😮😮😮😮
No offense my g but I'm only taking Spotify advice from artists who made money off it
I love this comment. Speaks truth
He probably used a lot of bottled playlist unknowingly
Didn't Spotify in apple music do that to Kanye West I'm just hearing things
Because he used a sample in one song without the license. But now is up again
Whatever it is, someone is botting. Whether thats spotify, the playlist curators, and/or the artist themselves. Maybe a combination of. We know alot of playlist curators bot so be careful of that. Recently, they find spotify may bot too. Artist themselves may be knowingly paying for botting services (seems a minority though). IMO I think its a combination of spotify botting themselves and artist not knowingly getting their plays botted from the playlist curators they send their song(s) to.
Not sure if the platform needs to bot themselves, they could just made up the numbers
Spotify doesn't want the indies to bot because then it's less money for the majors, botting doesn't cost Spotify more it just changes how the money is divided. Most bot streams are from Premium accounts . Spotify doesn't remove music ,it's the distributors.
Talk to em Curtis lol
Dude, they blocked Kanye's album vultures... so who are we???
You’re late on this, they put his albums back up.