Joe Budden EXPOSES Why Rappers Aren't REALLY Independent?
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You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned, “vanity”. A lot of people are into the aesthetic rather than the art in its purity.
Uh, that's the entire urban black community culture homie.
I was in the middle of making this same video when the rabbit hole led me down who really owns spotify and why they really wanna demonitze artist.! I ended up making that video instead. Good work tho.
🤣🛠️ the rabbit hole is DEEP as whale va….nevermind lol
It’s more than rabbits down that rabbit hole 🕳️
Im bout to watch your video right after this.
yeahhhh. You and every other marketer says the same thing; you don't own the platforms. SO go direct to the fans and customers.
I’m not into the music industry but I’m glad I came across your channel! I love seeing all creatives starting to understand and capitalize on their own value instead of allowing others to take it. We got a similar thing happening in the tech space. You’ve earned my subscription bro 😎
The Takeaway : Get In. Get Out. Get On With Life.
If you apply this approach to working within The Record Industry, then some things start to make sense.
There's this band, whose song I came across I really liked. Only to find out that they stopped making music soon after.
Maybe they caught a measure of success that they used to transition to something else OUTSIDE of the record business.
This is exactly the sentiment of this entire video.
C.K. Definitely opened my eyes to knowing what being an independent artist is. I used think that getting a lot of streams matter but now I know that it doesn’t. I’d always found myself trying to do other things as an artist outside of streaming and it just feels better. I still have a hard time putting myself out there because I don’t want rely on TikTok and those thing I actually want to get in front of an audience fr fr. So at the moment I’m still working on my sound and everything and pushing myself to be an actual independent artist by expressing who I am and what I can really do. Shout to Curtiss King and all the DIYers. 💯💯💯
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Same here I feel like if u can vastly improve ur flow, lyricism and creativity then u can’t lose
Make sure it comes from the soul and comes from your heart. Classic and timeless artist so flourish in the hearts and minds of people dead or alive
Let’s really commend Curtiss King for really be aware of content and conversations out here. Because I watched this same clip and said to myself “Curtiss would be a great person to expound upon this conversation” and here he is
That means a lot family. Thank you 🛠️
This video hits different, what you said about fame is something I experienced strangely enough from playing a cellphone game called "RAPSTAR Rapper Simulator" I know it sounds silly talking about a cellphone game when your discussing real life but part of the game is spending millions to keep up appearances on Billboard and Fame.
Yup, even on Instagram a lot of our influencers pay to have followers have admins and mods pushing their pages shoutouts etc…
The problem is most Independent artist don't know how to work their material. You can be an Independent and be successful in your own road not worrying about what everyone else is doing. It isn't rocket science all you need to do is the work and be CONSISTENT on your career. The reason most of these artist are broke on these labels because they lacked the knowledge on how the music business runs. So they have to depend on everything from the label while the label knows they have a new sucker in the tax write off bracket at the same time always keeping the artist in debt. That's why THERE IS: 1. The Music 2. The Music Business 3. The Music Industry. Love the first Learn the 2nd Outsmart the 3rd. You will be successful.
You should ask the homie Matt Reed, he knows a few things about how to value your material work and the music itself.
Thank you for this, sir! Your commentary hits hard and deep. "What is your number?", 'hypnotized by being famous", "allergic to money" are just three of many hits in this video. Knowing yourself is a requirement of independence in any form. Thank you for helping others get that.
Great video as always! Working with Big Jerm has been paying off, Nov 28th I give y’all ‘IDK Yet’ a 8 song project that’s already garnered a meeting with a A&R. Thank you so Curtis for being more than just a artist but someone who’s truly trying to help other DIYers out there. I remember a decade ago when I was 22 and broke and had to pick did I wanna buy food or use that money on weed while cooking in the studio. Just know hard work and having fun does work people! You don’t need to sell your sell or act out of character. 🙏
Yo brodie I'm 1000% with you on the DIY concept (it's the original way) but... that FL commercial is hilarious.
This is a great overview. I love the commentary from around 11:00 onwards. This I think does not only apply to music but nearly every other walk of life. In essence we all have to get our heads down and figure out what works for us and work on that basis, leaving all the vanity behind us. Well said man!
Wealthy money is very quiet 🤫
I’m watching all sorts of videos like this before I release my best project to date, Bounceback Season. & I feel like I’m aborning a lot of useful information that’s gonna help me navigate thru the industry not just for short term but long term.
I sold 20 copies of my last project and it was the most gratifying thing ever. 🤷🏾♂️ hoping to triple that the next go round.
They are called MINIDIES "MAJOR INDIES" I worked at Arista years ago and that term was around and held close to the chest as it helped artist claim independent with secret major backing to break through and tap into young artist who would admire them in the indie light.
Indie just means the artists pays for their own promo thru label services upfront, so they get a better split.
@Dihmarko no completely true.Youre speaking of a P&D, which the artist incures more risk and money with little return unless moving large numbers as the artist had to supply the album,pay producers and admin the pub and royalty splits. In the streaming era, those deal don't happen as their are no large physical products to sell. Artist can still do all the rest but usually end up owing for the labels help as streaming which alot of sales are based off of are peanuts,so you get an investment you can get a return on to look cool. A Mindie.
Man the teachmefl commercial was golden 😂
truth is that the old model is still effective the traditional route is still there.
d.i.y.
make music
get it out there, not the internet only.
the physical world.
hand to hand.
sell product to fans at shows, start small. grow
get music out there, promotion.
through that find who is wanting it. Now market it to them.
Invest in yourself.
Man I got business cards and posters that I put up illegally.
@@forrest_bias 👍👍👍👍
Man! I love that you’re doing this. I’ve been thinking about it as well despite being a lot earlier in my career than you are. You’re dope!
Joe did make a great point who really owns these distribution companies
Hey man I don't want this to sound rude but can you please work on mixing your audio a little better. The podcast is way quieter than your audio and then when your pop notification comes in it's way louder than your voice. I know this could be my speakers but I legitimately have to turn the video up when the podcast is playing and then turn it down when you are speaking. Love your ideas and videos it's just a little hard to listen to
I noticed this too. Ill definitely work on that Chris. Thank you for the advice.
This one actually made me subscribe. I always sell my music before it goes on streaming.
The throwback clip. So cool!
You’re leading the front for independent media
FL studio skit was TOO 😂😂
Good question "Ninja what was you doing"
boy u gettin cold wit dis shit boy keep it going got damn it im locked in
My guy that teach me fl skit is ABSOLUTELY brilliant. You are great actor. Do more of those as a content. Skits like that get 10 mil views on tiktok
Really appreciate this video.
"When you do some dig deepen" 😂 love it... I will say though, being on streaming services does add to the PERCEPTION of professionalism, which can be powerful.
🤣 spoke too quickly
@CURTISS KING TV GREAT VIDEO AND INFORMATION.. KEEP TALKING THAT GROWN MAN SH!T.. GET MONEY & PROTECT THE NEXT GENERATIONS..
The fact that the streaming companies get 3 TIMES the amount you get is IN.....SANE!!!! 🤯
I saw this interview and was gonna send it to you too. I figured you might have something to say. Lol.
Bruh, the 💻 with the FL 😂😂😂
That commercial was so fire 🔥🔥
S/o to Joe Budden, Math Hoffa, & to you, Curtiss King! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Another great video w/ a lot of 💎s for all fellow DIYers... Keep it comin'‼️💯
7:06 😂 yo FL started crashing on em cause he was out with Ableton 😂😂😂
How about producers? Producers are just making the beats... shouldnt they gun for working with the majors for the best chances of us having a career?
I say that because how does a producer get it going on some real money in today's age? We don't rap or have any interest in being in the artist lane.
Would love to hear advice for people in those shoes
No money in music anymore. Best to get rich first then make money on your own time that way you don’t gotta worry about every penny when your doing music full time. FACTS!!!!💯💯💯 that’s what I’m doing.
TASTE DOESNT DECTATE TALANT. AND TALANT IS SUBJECTIVE BASED ON CULTURAL NORMS OR CURRENT ZIETGIESTS
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🤔 is this video on your IG I want to repost this! I really think 🤔 people don’t understand this FRFR! I’m still learning myself
250k to break a song….using radio and ads….across the usa
yo Curtis, when people buy digital album off a website, how will it be played on Iphones?
It depends where they get the digital album from. Bandcamp has an app that allows fans to stream music for free from Bandcamp artists they purchase from. It works without background interruption when you turn your phone screen off. Same with Wix and their music player.
Say less🤯🤯🤯
Do it yourself! Business is warfare! Become your own man and go to war for yourself! ( without being dishonest) know what your aiming for.
Ain't gon lie that skit was funny lol
🗣 Aye when it come down to it mfz scrambling cuzz they know they owe money
Like I can’t just wake up and do this sht in my sleep sht is abundant Spotify done fuq’d up
i would love to go independent right now i have a studio i write my own lyrics all i need now is a producer to build a relationship with i have studio one and fl studio i mastered the studio one but fl studios i have a problem with making beats i would make a beat on fl studio and it sounds techno ish i would like to make boombap beats to bring that back to the essence of hip hop because we need that asap
Yes It would be Success making 100,000 a year doing what I love / want to do. Because making 50,000 is hard as well. most people see the big millions and think you can have it with out the work or Process
If I have 100,000 dollars and doing what I love I’m happy. Plus I have all my brothers with me and my team. Plus I understand I will run out of money so I definitely need to invest and look into other options and things to bring in more income.
WHAT!?
HE INVESTED AT THE RIGHT TIME WITH THE RIGHT GROUP OF OTHER RICH GUYS LIKE ASHTON KUTCHER.
BUY REAL ESTATE, THAT WILL MAKE YOU MONEY IN THE NOW AND THE FUTURE. LIKE APTS IN A BIG CITY IN A NICE AREA.
ROB DYRDEK MADE ALMOST HALF A BILLION, MOSTLY WITH REAL ESTATE IN LA
Why can’t you do both ?
Can you explain how you can compare $50 to passive income?
Who has a CD player though?
In monopoly everyone could win with the proper exit strategy
If you wanna become Famous and Broke at the same time. Become a rapper. There's no $$$ in music. Stop the B/S. Streaming services don't pay
No one uses a CD player anymore curtis
Yes they do. The indie scene i'm tapped into, a large part of it is funded via Vinyl, CD, & cassettes. Its part of artists direct to consumer merch items. Supporters will purchase the CD, just to display it.
@@richdirectionthat's a niche. That's not most people. Your reach is significantly repressed. The general public blows in the direction of the wind. They want what's easier, which is understandable. And that easier way is streaming. Not buying CDs or Vinyls or Cassettes. But it means YOU have to cater to THEM. Not them catering to YOU.
you right, the mass not using cd player@@saintkevinofficial
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Epic Games owns Band Camp.
They sold it recently to Songtradr.
Unsigned = Industry Plant
Like 👍 11/22/23
Tru 💯
It seems that people out here are either brainwashed or just lazy. Maybe a bit of both. It's like their afraid to get off of streaming platforms. Just do the math! A song I did got over a 1000 streams. I might have made $10. But what if I would've sold the single for $1.00? But these artists want put all of their effort into getting on playlists and all of this crap! I don't get it bruh!
Joe are you independent ok
This is some tdi shit these the ones voted off but still secretly come back for another season or event
lol loud definitely is broke
Thank you fam 💯🙏🏾
If that is a disqualifying factor for being called independent, both you and Joe Budden need to take a course on capitalism. Particularly you need to read Yanis Varoufakis's works on Techno feudalism - because the companies that own or manage, i.e. major share holders of the record companies basically own and/or manage a massive majority of everything.
Which means, you can _never_ qualify as being independent because as soon as you use any streaming platform, use youtube in any way, you are no longer independent.
Which means this channel needs to shut down and open up a website and start streaming its contents from there. The fact that this channel exists on youtube would disqualify it as DIY and independent.
My man even says "I could sell physical products, I do this, I been doing this" - using one of the MANY services, that are neither DIY, open source or independent. I'm guessing the merch he is producing is outsourced to another platform, the technology used to sell it is probably too.
Thus, the problem isn't the record industry, it is the economic system in and of itself.
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Man I'd be considering myself succesful with 70k/year USD gross income. F*** a VV's watch, Ion even wear Casio 🤌