Texas to Chicago (Almost) | De-ice Failure and Diversion
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- After departing Gladewater, TX, we encounter moderate ice as we reach our cruise altitude and discover that the de-ice boots aren’t working. Although we’re in the clear, more ice is expected during the descent into O’Hare so we make an unscheduled trip to Olathe to see Kevin Mead and have the boots checked out.
My grandfather and great uncle were the first to ever pick up a Malibu from the factory! Always loved these.
As someone who is around very large equipment for work... I can tell you.. It never ceases to amaze me... that a 15 cent part, or at least a very small one, can stop million dollar equipment. Our mothers were right... little things matter.
hawkdsl FACTS!!
Example , a 6.00 bearing killed the turbine car at Indy costing it an easy win .
@@onfin3al6 I remember that.
Loved the line...”I’ve done dumb and I’ve learned”
I'm a guy in my mid-thirties obsessed with general aviation. We make okay money but right now spend it on the little ones. Thank you so much for sharing every little bit that you have shared. Maybe in two years or maybe in 12 years I will be pursuing my pilot's license, and videos like this give me valuable insight into minutiae that can be easily overlooked another videos. Thank you for taking the time to create this content, it is truly awesome.
Thank you Seth! Your priorities are well in order and I commend you for that. I hope that you do earn your PPL someday and are able to enjoy it with your family.
Kory ~ super video demonstrating sound decision making, not only to divert, but in not telling Kerry about the boots right away. No need to concern her at that point - I'm afraid that I would have blurted it out when the boots did not deploy! Well done, and nice tie.
Good decision on the icing problem. "I have done dumb and learned from it", well don't we all, the survivors that is.
As always, a great example on how to handle an adverse situation with calm and poise.
Glad to see very responsible decision-making, gotta set a good example!
Excellent video, thank you! So glad that you and your family made it safely.
Yet another awesome video ... sharing your decision process help many other pilots.
Long but awesome video. You are a very good pilot and you also do great with your camera work. This was a nice lesson for me. I am a VFR private pilot aiming for my IFR certification. This video is pure motivation to start IFR training ASAP.
Lucky you had the flexibility to change your plans. Love your videos - especially getting to see the challenges and complex ATC situations.
Excellent decision, no hesitation, when you are dealing with ice never wait jut get down
I subscribed many months ago. First comment. Love the channel. Live in Phoenix area and fully rated pilot for 40 years. Great family and educational content. Maybe our paths will cross one day on the ramp.
Thank you for sharing! New instrument pilot here. Great to observe your decision making process and diagnosis of the problem.
Congratulations on getting your IR!
@@MalibuFlyer what headset is your wife wearing at 1:30? Would like to check that out for my wife.
@@marcocarlos7788 She has the Flex by Clarity Aloft and loves them
Thanks for that video! I’m a 63 year old student pilot going for my PPL, and videos like this are great inspiration to me, specially how you showed (I think) exceptional situational awareness, made excellent decisions. I didn’t see if there was a checklist, but you tried all the logical and possible checks while in the air for troubleshooting the deicing boots, and then just calmly accepted that they weren’t going to work and worked the problem, all with calm and even enthusiasm.
Also, your video editing was great. I’m used to steam gauges, so I learned a little about glass panels because you showed it so well when appropriate, and had a lot of different camera cuts.
Mainly though, I’m not schooled on IFR, and was wondering if, in the beginning before problems were you flying IFR and on a flight plan? I ask because I’m not sure how that works and before I realized you were IFR rated, was shocked at how casually you were flying in the clouds. We VFR students and pilots get that “you have about 90 seconds before you spin” etc. but I wasn’t sure if when IFR rated but flying VFR then hit clouds if you just hold course, etc or declare to ATC that you are switching to IFR?
Anyway, great job! Going to watch more of your videos now. Thanks!
shader26 good observation. Yes, if there is an emergency checklist covering this, it absolutely should be used. And yes, he was on an IFR flight plan. That sequence on the ground at the very beginning was picking up his IFR clearance.
Wow, Kory. Another great video. I look forward to your channel. Please keep it up. On this one, seeing how you manage your decision to divert and then watching your IMC penetration to land is very instructive.
Well Done! Your camera angle from the wing just incredible.
Kory, I love your precise thinking on diverting early. It sure does beat the hurry up get there syndrome where you are a statistic on flight accident investigation. Love the videos. Congratulations to your daughter on a great accomplishment. Good luck to her in all she does.
Great ADM. I've been following this channel for a while and I've always been impressed with the professionalism, the radio communication and the ADM. The Malibu or the TBM would be a dream to fly. Blue skies and happy flying.
Great Video,s and I love it how you talk through your set up and apr . thanks so much and God Bless
Really awesome that Kevin had you fixed in just a few minutes, or at least diagnosed and found the problem. As to your decision making, spot on. Better safe than sorry, and there's nothing that requires that much attention that you get yourself killed doing it.
Hi guys, hope you are all healthy and happy. I really miss your videos and keeping up with Katie and your wife's flying. If this shows up on notifications, I think all your followers would love to know how you are doing. Thanks, Jim Sherrow. Lake Pomme de Terre in Missouri.
Hi Jim and thanks for the comment. We're all doing well although not flying quite as much anymore. We wish you and your family a Happy New Year!
@@MalibuFlyer So glad to hear you are all doing well. I never had the funds to obtain a ppl but did get some instructor time back in the 80's and had a good friend that owned a Piper Cherokee. I owned sailboats through the years and had to give it up when my back gave it up. I had a 25' Catalina for many years. Inland lake sailing keeps you real busy. I am curious how your Bahamas sailing vacation went and are you still sailing?
Happy New Year and God Bless you.
"I've done dumb, I've learned from dumb" That should be on a tee shirt :)
Thanks for sharing and explaining or vocalizing your thought process as you got into ice and what you did to get out as well as your procedures with the new avionics. Congratulations to your daughter, and she had 95% wow. When should we expect the PIC on the Malibu Flyer?
Thank you Steve. Her check ride is this Saturday!
Very amusing to spot my car in the parking lot at KOJC there. Stumbled across your video in my recommended videos section. I shall be listening for your tail number in the future at work!
Wow, after reviewing your De-Ice failure it brought back memories of me flying a P-210 over PHX from Concord, CA to Tucson one April day and I did not like not having deice boots not working for sure! Good call on your turn around to Kansas where the air was warmer. LOVE your videos and I learn a lot from them. Keep up the great work and be safe out there flying as I know you are. Love the Malibu!
Great job keeping your cool! Also good decision making too! Im glad your fix was free and quick.
Great video. My wife and I used to live about 2 miles north of Jo. Co. Executive and you overflew our old house. Cool to see the perspective from the air, as I've watched hundreds of planes approaching the airport from the ground. Glad you made it safely.
Hey Malibu Flyer & co pilot! What a great video. You really kept your cool through it all. Your decision to land at KOJC was a smart move. Your Malibu with all the latest avionics may be a expensive move, but another smart move. I used to live just to the east of the airport 10 years ago or so. I obtained my private, instrument & commercial at that airport. I had a A36 Bonanza when I obtained my commercial certificate. I learned so much about that Bonanza when in training. I appreciate you & your wife sharing your Malibu experiences. Stay safe & keep the videos coming!
Thoroughly enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing. From an expat in Ireland. Safe travels my friend.
Excellent educational video . Another reminder of staying ahead of the airplane or "projecting ahead". It's amusing how teamwork and rhythm works with ATC. There is symmetry there between pilots and ATC. Funny. Couple of times ATC missed that queue to come up and assist, but they were just a nanosecond behind. Great video. Kudos to your daughter.
Good call on diverting. I have been watching airplane accidents on youtube to learn from others and decision making delay in taking action during icing conditions seems to be a problem.
First time watching your videos, I am a private pilot and really enjoyed it. Great, sensible decision making without any fuss. I loved it. Also time to get your wife a pair of in ear headphone lol - subscribed.
great video. could not stop watching until last second. awesome !
Great video. Very well put together. You gave me some ideas on how to make my videos better.
OJC is my home base. Enjoyed watching you land there. Great decision making. Enjoy watching your videos!
We fly out of KAAO, been to OJC a couple times, once to meet up with Kory during his engine replacement!
Beautiful journey. I felt as if I was on the plane with you. Good share and generous. Thank you both!
Great decision making and staying calm while trouble shooting!
Great video. Awesome ADM. One point that may have kept you clear of the wx. You took a heading of 010 to keep you clear which looking at the map and the HSI should've been just good enough. However it looks like you had a pretty stiff left quartering tailwind from the SW pushing you into the wx. A 360 or even 355 would likely have worked better imho. Unless I misread something. All in a rock solid job.
You two clean up well. Safe travels.
Very important to test on the ground all equipment, especially all your ice protection ones flying in bad weather.Great learning experience for you mate.
Superb video.
Makes my own IFR antics seem pathetic!
Love the “done dumb and learnt from that” - me too.
Excellent video with good sound judgment. Keep them coming!
Greeting from KCRP and South Texas Flying Club as well as your newest Subscriber. I informed my husband this evening that I found my newest airplane. He asked what is it? I said a Piper Malibu. He said, is that a twin? I said no. He said Okay. haha.. Guess what I'm in the market for!? Thanks for all the great content. I've been watching your videos for some hours now straight through.
While working at the hospital this evening during down time watching your videos, I switched over to flightaware and noticed you flying to 18TE on a late Sunday evening....
You make great use/work of that aircraft.
Bill
WE NEED MORE VIDEOS!!!!!!! (of couse not in this pandemic but I was scrolling through your channel wanting more and I already watched all of your videos) 😂 😂 😂 Keep up the GREAT work!
GREAT video, perfect ADM, and solid airmanship. well done. thanks for sharing.
Great video. You're beyond blessed!
First time viewing your channel nice airplane love the avionics. Congratulations to your daughter on her first solo.
Thank you Andy. Welcome!
Congrats on future pilot on First Solo. This presentation is outstanding. i have learned from this video.
You since of urgency and decision making was superb! I've never flown GA and the horror stories (i.e. icing, VFR to IMC, single enginge failure, stalls, etc.) keep me away from GA. Thanks for the content!
Great flight many thanks for sharing cheers
I love your channel. I dream to be able to do this with my family on a M350 and travel together.
Hi Kory. Can you do a video on how you mount the various GoPros? BTW I usually do a boot check shortly after departure if icing condition is expected along my route. But keep in mind testing the boot in temperatures below -20 Celcius can damage the boot. Stay safe.
Great video! Kerry seemed to stay really calm through the entire incident. Sometimes hardest for the one who isn’t in control of anything to remain relaxed!
Thank you. I opted to deal with the situation rather than discuss it if you know what I mean... She wasn’t aware of the boots not working until after I made the decision to divert.
@@MalibuFlyer I enjoyed the video and apologize in advance, I didn't see where you commented as to what did you find wrong with the boots? Always trying to learn, even though I only fly my recliner!
@@warrenpierce8526 No problem at all. You had to wait till the very end 32:04. It was a broken wire.
Why you flying into KORD? Crazy expensive. KPWK is a 15 minute drive north or KMDW is 15 minutes south. If you came to PWK where I hangar my 310 I’ll introduce to guys and gals in my flying club. Might b an issue right now though with this crazy virus. Fly safe.
Great decision - better safe then sorry. Ice isn't anything to mess with. Hope the family and yourself are doing fine during these trying times. God Bless and be safe. 'Spin'
Great video. I watched it all, and I have a short attention span. I hope you realize how lucky you are, on a few levels. Fly safe!
Can't wait to see the video of her passing her checkride
Absolutely excellent video and decision making. I hate click bait titles but I feel like you may have undersold this title, anyone who flies should watch this.
Congrats on unsupervised flight! You two make one heck of a team!
I literally live next to (and fly out of) KOJC. In fact, I could see my house on your approach. What a small aviation world. Beautiful airplane.
I love taking off when it’s humid. The vortices off the prop look cool.
I'm more impressed you did a pre-flight in that weather and kept your white shirt and tie in pristine condition.
mike from iowa--i have been riding in the malibu with you and i expect i will get a bill for av gas from you--from a bonanza junkie and cessna 310 i must say i am very impressed with the malibu and your pilotage seems flawless
Rime ice is tinny little crystals, but I saw large frozen droplets on the PAX side windshield. and it seems like the boots were actually expanding [expansion zone pattern visible at 10:30], but not clearing. PS. what was OAT on takeoff? looked like a white knuckler clearing obstacles at the end. Does the 50/70 rule apply to Malibus? [70% of rotation speed by 50% of runway length]
I missed seeing the vídeo of your daugther's solo. Congrats from Brazil, South América.!!
Great ADM!!!!! and Looking SHARP!!!!
Good job, keeping your cool (no pun intended)...
I knew the outcome and I was still on the edge of my seat!!
I don't think I would have been that calm!
The Good Lord had HIS hand on this flight...
Excellent teamwork. Thanks for top IFR lesson for free!
Really enjoy your videos. I got my Pvt at Falcon back in 1985. The Red Mtn scenery brings back memories.
I live in Phoenix and currently not active. Im considering re entering the GA world. Was looking at A36 but you have gotten my interest up on the PA46! Love to have coffee sometime if ever able?
Can you be so kind to tell us what are the differences between the 550 engine and the old 520? Theoretically you might have seen better torque numbers at high altitude with high manifold pressures compare with the old 520. Is this the case? And if so it would be wise to go for 3 blade props conversion to take advantage of that new plus in torque?
Love how you are updating your Malibu and giving us real world feedback about it!
Hello. The TSIO-550 has a slightly longer stroke than the 520 which results in a rated 350HP as opposed to the 310HP of the 520. The STC that governs the 550 in the early Malibu's requires that the manifold pressure be limited to 35.5" thereby de-rating it to 310HP.
@@MalibuFlyer So. You have a bigger engine which at high altitudes put the turbocharger compressor in a more relaxed place on its efficency map, achieving more of those 310hp at high altitude than the 520. But power at max rpm is limited to 310hp. Nevertheless the engine has more torque in all the rpm range so you can run it lean at a load of 45% and achieve better thrust. So following my logic, your fuel consumption must be higher. What remains to check is if that added speed keeps the range as before but with the added decrease in time.
I really like seeing your trips and how the Malibu is getting better with time. And your are starting to convince your wife about the importance of adding a wing pod with a weather radar, next mod?
Crossing Texas from west to east I was IFR on top . After requesting radar vectors to the localizer I was dropped in the clouds , about 30 minutes later I lined up on the outer marker and was covered in ice . As I approached the inner marker I was clear of clouds at about 600 FT. and on center . There was no flare , just a plant . The 172 was covered nose to tail in ice .
Yup, the controller dropped you. Great management of the ice situation. God bless.
I love you videos. Wish they were posted more often.
Really enjoy watching your videos. I have long considered the PA-46 550 or a Vitatoe P210. Currently fly a 210 with a IO550p upgrade. I had some fun with the AOPA comparing the Bonanza vs Centurion a few years back. I would love to see a flyoff between the PA-46 550 and the Vitatoe P210.
I am not a pilot only enthusiast but I thought that the take off run was long. plenty of excitement with the icing problem and with your experience it was handled great.
Be safe in these challenging times.
Gladewater is a nice little airport. Flew out of there a couple times and visit whenever I'm in town.
great video, well done. Looking forward to seeing the video into the Phoenix valley!
You are always such a Pro! Really enjoy your videos!
I spent many thousands chasing the same problem, replaced both Vacuum pumps and the pressure valve($$$). Turns out a ground wire had not been connected when my engine was replaced after my engine failure. I am sure Kevin could have figured it out in 10 minutes but he had not opened his shop yet. My plane is there in annual now.
Hi Eric. It was the same wire that broke on mine... On my last annual, he found about 10 things within the first 5 minutes of looking at it. He knows right where to look that's for sure.
Great cockpit work, aviate, navigate, communicate. Subscribed & following.
Love all your videos, thank you so much !
Nice flight. Thanks for the ride along!
At about 29:00 you tell us you are gear down, then at about 29:30, we see your airplane in a clean configuration. You had me worried. Nice video.
Good eye! My wing camera was out of sync.
Just saw the video. Great decision-making judgment. The only suggestion would be to use standard phraseology for altitudes. You continued to report your altitudes using the word "point" rather than thousands and hundreds of feet. "Point" is only used to read back frequencies.
I was following your flight on flight aware app and noticed your diversion (I did not know where you were flying to) and thought it was odd. I was hoping you would follow up with a video. I’m not a stalker, honest! Thanks for the video and glad that all worked out.
Flightradar not Flight Aware
Excellent video. You're an excellent pilot.
Great video as usual. I really like your airplane. My base is Gladewater 07F. Cheap gas. You seem to come through 07F every so often. Maybe the gas! Anyway, I have panel envy. I have flown the Malibu a couple of times a few years ago. I remember it being a little tight to get into the cockpit, but once settled in very comfortable and a great airplane to fly. I would like to lose 30 pounds, not contract COVID 19, keep my business afloat, and then buy me a PA-46!
Sounds like a great plan to me! I need to lose at least 40 though. You’ll never see me getting in/out in one of these videos. It isn’t pretty.
Just found your channel and spent a significant portion of my weekend watching most of your videos. Very high quality. I am really enjoying them. I would be curious to know how long you have been flying, and what other airplanes you have owned or flown prior to graduating to the Malibu. I got my private back in 1994, but haven’t flown in years. I’m toying with the idea of getting back into it.
Hi Bill. Thanks for the comment. I started flying in 1996 with a Piper Cherokee 235. After selling it 4 years later, I didn't fly much until 2015 when I purchased my Malibu.
Great job diverting, considering the weather going into ORD with boots inop, you really didn’t have much of a choice.
The only alternative I could think of was, if
you descended rapidly, staying clear of the weather, until getting below the freezing level, then proceeding onto ORD. I don’t know what the freezing level was that day in the Chicago area, so that may, or may not have worked.
I think a super great idea with 8.5 hrs. of fuel. Like you said, it sure does give you lots of options, which you really never know if you’ll need it, so better to have it.
A couple of observations :
x no 29.92 STD climbing through FL205
I see later that you caught that.
x it looked like pretty good ice on the front
windshield.
do you have a hot plate, or alcohol or TKS fluid for your front windshield ?
x you might have cut it kind of close on the weather, although I do realize that weather was most likely further East than depicted on your weather display.
Does the Malibu have an option for hanging an airborne weather radar antenna pod on the wing ?
That would give you a real time precip picture to “supplement” your time dated satellite nexrad picture on your screen.
x that right screen with the approach plate, are you able orient that to track up, instead of North up ?
Overall, very very good !!
Thank-you for sharing your video.
WX radar was an option for the Malibu from the factory. IIRC, it was a bit of cash for it though. (I don't have one, but remember looking at them some years ago).
Hi Daniel. Spot on with all your points. The nose view camera is mounted on the co-pilots windshield and that side is not heated. The MFD screens can be configured for either track or north up. I’m a north up guy.
Great flight lots of learning this video
Nice job on the divert. However, I had some thoughts. When you evaluated your takeoff performance based on the conditions, what was the result based on the runway you selected? Should the engine have failed, just prior to rotation, would you have had enough runway to stop? Also, would you perform a system test of your de-ice equipment, prior to each flight (and especially prior to flight in known-icing conditions)?
A prop filter? How cool! Great video.
Flying in a tie - that's the way to do it.
So what kind of mount does it take to place a GoPro on the wing tip and still expect to have it when you land?
Thanks, Looking Quite Snazzy There Mr M Flyer.
Glad you got down safely. Good diversion.
Great flight Kory!
Thank you sir! Let’s head to breakfast at CGZ when this is all over
What’s your normal indicated airspeed at FL 250 ? I see you indicated 130 with ice, trying to see how much of a penalty you had
Hi Biff. At those altitudes I typically see 135-140 kts indicated.