Safest Way to Cut Down a Cracked Tree?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ธ.ค. 2024
- Climbing and cutting down a huge cracked and hollow fir tree. More than half the time on the job was making the tree safe. This tree could have easily fell and sliced right through the house underneath it.
I like how you explained everything u were about to do - great problem solving - and excursion of the plan - to many just do the cut and not the set up before the felling of the bad tree - thank u for treating ur viewers like they are smart and not like we are dumb - I understood everything you explained 🤓👍👍👍👍
I have the same bar on my ms361 and I ran into the same issue. I know you have been running it a while. Anyways, I had to take a ball peen hammer to the rivets at the tip because they stuck out so far. After that it was good. Worth a check.. Nice work man!
I'll take a look at it.
Great explaination of what you wanted to come up with a solid plan then worked your plan. Everything went according to your plan and you were safe. Great video!!! Blessings to you.
23:13 sometimes the rail of the bar can mushroom out a little and catch the wood, try taking the chain off and filling the sides of the bar to make sure there is no burr on it. Great video man!
Looks like that's what everyone is suggesting. Thank you. 👍
Wild tree! Nice job taking your time, assessing situation, taking some preventative measures, and getting it done safely. Thumbs up brother 👍🏼
It was a sketchy situation. Trying to put the odds in my favor. 👍
Nice to see how you explained the process and worked safely
Awesome job. Thanks for explaining what you were doing and why. Stay Safe Watching from Tasmania 👍🤗
This is Bill w again thank you for your service for keeping us safe
I'm from an outdoor industry background and also spent some time building high ropes course's. Something we would do when faced with a situation where we couldn't rely on the pole or tree we were working in was to put a horizontal line between 2 other poles/trees, so we had a an anchor that could slide with us. I know that the forces in the system aren't great, but with some slack in that horizontal rope, it was good enough to hold you up safely. If you switched that rope for some of the webbing that is now used in the slackline world, you'd actually be able to get that line pretty tight as it's designed to be able to take loads in that way. Using that as a running personal anchor would mean that working on a job like this, you could have your safely rope almost directly above your head the whole time (assuming that you find 2 suitable trees to use as anchors). It might be something that you could look into to have another tool in your back pocket for jobs like this. Ryan on the TH-cam channel hownot2 would be a fantastic person to talk to, and he also has a shop selling all the kit. Stay safe 😊👍👍👍👍
Interesting idea. I watch the guy you referred to. 👍
You do amazing work God bless stay safe brother
Love your channel. Very interesting how you figure out how to accomplish this job.
If you want to use a gri-gri to assend a rope, just attach the foot ascender above the gri-gri. Every time you stand up, pull the slack through, advance the foot ascender, repeat. That's how we do it in the recreation/outdoor sector, and it works really well. OK, it's definitely not as easy when compared to the big boy toys in the tree climbing world, but it still works for us.
Thank you
Great video! I am a climber in Humboldt County, CA. I have been hearing that the Vertec has been finicky without that bottom pulley.
Good job man.. thanks for shareing your experience
👍 Np
Try dressing the bar, if the rails get worn it can tilt the chain away from the cutting edge so it doesn’t engage.
Awesome video, brother!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🪓🪵🌲🪵🪓🪵🌲
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So I think your bar on your 261 may just need to be dressed. You can get these slick little bar dresser file guides, and you need to file down the rails until they're level.
I had that same thing happen to my Husky 555.
check if your chain is loose on your bar (left-right play on the bar) Your chain inks should not be loose in your bar chanel... And if your bar is burred on each side of your chain... these are two things that cause a bar to stop in a cut
Good job by the way:)
bar is likey worn or bent like you say. take it off and feel for burrs. it can be ground flat again. Awesome video
Excelent work and explained very well! May I ask you, there was not an other option to put the guide line to the remaining tree without the spurs? What is your standing: those will not harm that much in that scenario, or you just did that because you were on your own, etc.? Thank for your answer
Fir trees in my area have very thick bark. Not very harmful to them.
you’re a nutjob brother i respect it 🫡
Real nice job Tim. You approached that well. Any plans of working with Jake and Randy soon? You all work well together.
I'll probably work with Jacob in the near future. 👍
Your shirts are sick!
Yep. Enjoyed. Thank you
Remove the bar, Dress the rails, check for bent, and make sure the chain is sharpened evenly on either side
can also be the chain at hangs when you are cuting, i has happen to me, the tooth was a little bit crooked
Great problem solving
You can use a CRIC (from Climbing Technology) paired with your grigri. Or any progress capture device with a redirect like a rollclip biner.
Also, good practice would be to purposefully use an accessory carabiner (1kn/2kn) on your flip line if you’re tied in with your climb line. This way, if the tree would be to fall the biner should break. Put it on your blocker side and you won’t even notice it ◡̈
Thanks for info. 👍
Lol! Omg I hate it when the chainsaw just hovers over the cut and wont cut through when the bar is all the way in
I will literally stop and climb down until I fix it or change the bar
It is frustrating and not safe to cut like that, especially up in a tree
I used the Vertec yesterday for the 1st time on a large oak removal. 1st impression I’m calling it the rope jogger 🏃 😂
Ya, based on what I've seen online, it's not the cat's pajamas or the bees knees. 🤷♂️
Also check or replace your drive sprocket
would a mini biner on the attachment point and around the rope keep the tail more straight into the device, apparently that's a trick on the pro, not tried it yet though
Bar May need to be faced. Check for ridge or curl along edge and file off
Add a HandAscender, then you can use a footascender with a 3to1 advantage (grigri)
I completely forgot about the R.A.D. system. That's actually the system I first climbed with which is why I even have a Gri Gri.
Exciting! Those jobs are some of the most fun jobs. I usually use a throw line for setting ropes. I already gave my Vertec away🤣 Never been a fan of the RR
I'm going to keep working with it. It's not a BIG problem, I just had my expectations set too high.
@@VeteranTreeService Honestly, the mid line attach and easy friction adjustment make it a solid choice for SRT but I find that with 90% of what we climb double rope is much more efficient because not only can I just hook the end of my rope back to myself instead of trying to choke it off but I actually have a mechanical advantage to make climbing up easier. I also never liked how descending feels on mechanical devices and I keep a wrench on my saddle for the times it makes sense to use SRT, like if I have to move through a crowded canopy and want to set a retrievable canopy anchor with just enough tail to make it to the ground or I can do the same thing working next to the chipper and hang my rope bag on a nub to avoid having to stress about my rope getting pulled into the chipper.
For the grigri, if you put a Prussic on it with a carabiner, you can use that as a rope tend.
Makes since. I have a hand ascender and micro pulley. I'm going to try the RAD system.
@ I used the grigri with hand ascender when I was rock scaling and tower climbing. Made life easy for work positioning.
And if you don’t want to swing back to the tree really fast, just wrap the tail of your life line to the other side and belay yourself back! (Another thing I do if it’s a far transfer
@@skythetreeguy3821 👍
Could be a worn bar tip canting the chain. Can fix the bar rails by filing it flat. Put a square on it you will see one rail massively LOWER than other side. In small wood you do not notice it, but in big wood it BINDS like you are showing. File/sand/grind it flat. Save yourself $100
I like the square idea. 👍
Most of the time when the bar stops cutting like that one side off the bar has burs on it so check that and might have to dress your bar
Im glad i returned the Rope Runner Vertec. A waited for reviews before trying to use it but didn’t see any. So I figured people didn’t like it.
Il m’est arrivé d’avoir une coupe pas droite à cause d’en mauvais angle 📐 d’aiguisage couplé à des écarts de dimension sur les gouges ( chaînes en fin de vie )
Peut-être cela?
Looks like fun, thanks for the vid. I thought that device was for single line, could that be why you’re fighting it?
It works for DRT as well. 👍
Are there any burs on the sides of your bar? Had that happen on my 362 & after a good file, it was good as new.
Keep in mind I'm just some dude on the Internet who's guessing. There's a very good chance you've already checked that
I'm going to look into this.
Nothing worse than a bent bar. It could be twisted too.
Hi Tim, another dangerous job done well!!! Have you been alone on the jobsite? I would be to scared to do this alone... Nils
Just me. I didn't really need a hand. Had my phone on me in case of emergency.
@@VeteranTreeService 👍
25:43 Hi, I am no treeworker but imho maybe the rakers are a bit too high?
whats the portwrap rated for?
3500 WLL at least. Also add in the friction of the rope across the tree.
@@VeteranTreeServicenice move!
To me it look like I would have kept climbing up the tree you put the guide line in then swing over to the tree you we’re cutting down and set another climbing line in the second tree you climb and then that way you could stay suspended in front of the tree you we’re cutting down and not by tied in it at all
Neat idea. 👍
I use that method all the time I call it the m system. Sometimes instead of a second rope I’ll use the end of my tail of my lifeline, and it kind of looks like an M when set up but it’s great for working in large spanned trees and being balanced.
@@jodypaul1950 yeah I do the end of my climbing line to I keep a eye to eye and micro, pulling on the back of my saddle just for that
Nice puzzle
Great work
Well done mate done a few like this in UK but no were near that tall good thinking and safe work !
I did notice You had a little Bark Tear Out on One of Your Big Cuts, Be Careful, that's a Potential Back Breaker. Good Job Though!
A couple of ratchet straps and you should be fine. 🙂
Besides, haven't you wanted to ride one down? It'd be like that guy riding the atom bomb in "Dr. Strangelove".
americans will use everything for measurements except the metric sistem. "look at this average sized pumpkin for size reference" :D awesome video as always brother!
I found that in the weeds near the tree. I thought that comparison was pretty clever. 😄
Gotta call BS on being able to ride the tree down unscatherd :p Well done, after that conversation we had a couple weeks ago? Looks like some of those ideas were implemented here or at least informed some of the process.
Not unscathed, but survivable. 😉 Thanks for commenting Josh.
The vertec has no pulley that’s why tend slack is bs.. they def gonna get recalled soon
I hope no one would be ailly enough to ever climb this no matter how good you have it guy wired
Plenty of people would have climbed it.
Maybe dress your bar & make sure it doesn't have mushrooming. Also have those cutting problems if I'm using the useless safety chain crap.
Hey man. 👍 Thanks for commenting.
"There IS a lot of other trees". Asking this as a non-native speaker. Is that correct English? Should I start saying this too?
I don't speak correct English very often, especially when talking to a camera.
the only thing that surprises me is that you do this alone🤨
I rarely work alone on big trees.