How I feel about Minecraft right now. (w/ Fundy)
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PhoenixSC and Fundy together is the best thing I have seen.
Agreed 💯
they should marry
@masela01 what 😮
@@masela01 wat
They're friends
The mob vote was just: 'we're amazed by the support we've gotten from the community' meanwhile the chat: #stopthemobvote spam
was this real? omg, is there a meme edit of this
@@badateverything2931 honestly, just look through the stream replay if you can, it shows that pretty well
@@badateverything2931 yes
That was ... that was something.
@@badateverything2931 I was there, yes, yes it was just like that.
I love how Mojang wont add fireflies because they're poisonous to frogs, but continue to let frogs eat literal cubes of magma from the depths of hell for some lights
I heard that it’s actually because fireflies didn’t work out as they intended to do rather than then being poisonous to frogs and also would cause many technical and performance issues
Very realistic
Welp. Time to feed my pet frog some lava I guess.
I didn't know that frogs liked spicy food
💀
One of the things that confuses me most about the recent updates is that they keep saying they're trying to make minecraft more "Minecrafty" while abandoning everything that makes minecraft what it is
Yeah, new Minecraft is a whole identity crisis now
Bc their version of “Minecrafty” means a soulless and lazy corporation money machine
Could you elaborate on that? Which changes are making the game less Minecraft-y, and how?
@@Squalidarity frankly, being cowards scared of adding a mob that drops useful resources when killed
@Squalidarity for one quick example, the music. Skyrim has epic orchestral music that fits its setting as a medieval adventure game, red dead largely has harmonicas and campfire music fitting the wild west setting, so one would expect a calm, creative, lonely game like minecraft to have... dubstep? Some song from the newer updates are alright, but the only song c418 made that made it into the game and wouldn't quite fit with most of the game was 'Alpha', which only plays in the credits and is the perfect place for it. And, coming from someone who likes to tinker, if it aint broke dont fix it. The music in minecraft wasn't broken, and they tried to fix it anyway. There are other examples I could come up with, but this comment is too long as is. If you care I could list them out for you in a later comment. Anyway have a good rest of your day!
Btw remember that 2018 biome vote was supposed to be just to choose the order of the updates. Taiga was updated, and we are still waiting for Desert and Savanna
That's because they don't know about the diverse, interesting ecology of real world deserts and I doubt they've really been investing in improving their knowledge about it over the years.
@@jadesprite If they mess up the prickly pear cactus I’ll be so disappointed. It’s such a good food IRL which would translate into a really good crop. But Mojang doesn’t do arid regions correctly so chances are they’ll just make it a decoration block.
taiga was updated??
@@knstantinefoxes and sweet berries.
@@The_WhitePencil wigga thats adding 2 features
I like to quote Gabe Newell on this:
> Sometimes, you'd be sitting in a design review and someone says "That's not realistic", and you're like, "Okay, what does that have-". Like explain to me why that's interesting. Because in the real world, I have to write lists of stuff I have to go to the grocery store to buy. And I have never thought to myself that realism is fun. I go play games to have fun.
Yeah any game or mod that is advertised as "realistic" is just saying it's annoying to play
@@DogsRNiceRealism's overrated if you ask me.
@@VexxThePrecursor07 There are some games that incorporate realism nicely, like Project Zomboid or Starsector or similar, but the issue is that when games that are inherently unrealistic try to incorporate it, so for the most part I agree
i think realism can be cool if used artistically, like Shenmue for example
@@alicevioleta3184 Yeah. Or you can have cartoonish designs with a more realistic theme, like Rift Apart did and it looks neat. Realistic but not too much to ruin the cartoonish artstyle the game has
0:30 it's also worth to note that real life frogs cannot eat living cubes of magma either
How do you know?
@@xekeyoWell, they can't eat Magma...
@@xekeyotry to put one in your mouth and you'd know why
Nor do they produce glowing cubes
@@Eldoofusbut have you tried
6:15 Wait! I hadn't even clocked that the dragon doesn't dive anymore. That was one of the better moves
I haven't been to the end in a few years, but I think the enderdragon still comes at you in bedrock edition
When they changed it, I was waiting for it to go for the dive since that's how I was used to hitting it. It didn't take me too much time to notice that it stopped diving at all.
I believe it is still in bedrock edition though.
Both of the boss are a lot more difficult to fight on bedroom.
I tried fighting the wither in a long tunnel because everyone made it look easy, but on bedrock it just obliterated the entire thing like it wasn’t there to catch up to me. It also spawns wither skeletons.
@@tomasbrown6013yeah on bedrock the Wither has more hp (almost double than what it has in java i think) and deals more damage- it also breaks a lot more blocks. And in bedrock the ender dragon still dives at you and might do slightly more damage (not sure about the damage thing though)
I think the worst thing about minecraft nowadays is that they're literally too scared to be edgy in any sort of way. It HAS to be family friendly or super nice for them. The Creeper and the Enderman themselves are perfect examples of how minecraft mobs should work. They troll the crap out of you.
Tl;dr: Minecraft is boring nowadays because Microsoft forces this shit about being overly family friendly and inoffensive into the game
Yeah someone said that modern mojang would have never added the creeper
yeah and like it's so weird that they try to make the game more and more "realistic", I feel like since 1.19 they decided to make the game very focused on hollow and surface features that keep getting added and then never have more than ONE purpose, for example the armadillo, I feel like they should stop doing updates once per year and instead 1 each 2 or 3 years because the quality is so poor nowadays
@@teobaldogameplays to be honest that has been going on for ages. Lapis is still yet to get a use outside of enchanting.
I hope that means ghasts will ve neefed
@@ebty4969they dont have mojangs word
Mojang clearly cares to make Minecraft super realistic because they won’t let fireflies exist but they will let you kidnap villagers to create breeding dungeons, force them into slavery on a farm, and keep them locked in a giant box with a bunch of corpses in order to have them summon ancient gaurdians to protect them all so you can get like 5 iron and a poppy every few minutes, all the while Mojang actively encourages you to illegally take them potentially thousands of blocks away to the nearest swamp in order to get a mending book.
Hey it sounds historically realistic in a sense to me
@@podled942sadly smh
welllll, if I wanted to I could do it in real life
@@podled942 it it isn’t child friendly. And mojang is all about being “child friendly” considering they banned guns from online servers 💀
No they don't they add a new wood type then go back to making unnecessary changes
"We didn't add the Firefly Mob because it is poisonous to Frogs. Instead of removing the code of Frogs eating this mob, we will remove the Firefly entirely, the mob that would've livened the Minecraft night."
phantoms should have livened the minecraft night but they were made so poorly
To be fair, it might've just lagged lower end operating systems.
@@miimiiandcoand we will never know if that were true
I don't care about the birch forest *that* much but damn having mushrooms on trees and pretty fallen logs would be so pretty and I don't think it would be that hard for Mojang to just slip into an update
It's already on Bedrock
@@VanK782 yeah but bedrock isn't what I play
@@justaniceeater honestly it's so weird how different the two version are, what has always baffled me the most was how long it took them to add banners to shields in bedrock, such a basic feature that has existed for years prior to the addition. And don't get me started on the items in offhand thing my god
I think a good addition to the glow squid would be that you could apply the ink sack to ANY block and that individual block is permanently at 15 light level regardless of ambiance. It doesn’t light up other blocks, just itself.
If you mine a glow-inked block, it just reverts to a normal block (so you aren’t duplicating every block) And you can scrape it with an axe
I love this idea, this feature alone would make glow squids one of the best mobs
Holy cow, I love this
It's impossible to obtain light blocks in normal vanilla survival without the use of commands, this would be a game-changer for the survival creative world
That would require Mojang to do new texture work for like a lot of blocks. And you can't expect a multi billion dollar corporation to do their jobs, that would be too easy.
@@mtdfs5147 it wouldn’t be a new texture. Like waxed copper: it doesn’t actually change what the block looks like. It just makes the block’s light level permanently 15, rather than going through the engine. It would be an NBT
@@mtdfs5147no? No texture changes would be needed, just make the light level unchangeable
To Fundy’s devil’s advocate point (1:47): the team also added polar bears, which in real life are the only animals in the world that view humans as food and will attack a human unprovoked when hunting, yet they are not hostile mobs and are rather easy to kill. This invalidates the arguments that they throw around for sharks
Well, I haven’t actually seen them saying that they won’t add sharks, they would likely add sharks, just not as hostile mobs
@@justaguy2183
They will not add sharks to Minecraft, Moyang is peak morality apparently
This comment actually adds a lot of information necessary to form an opinion and adds to the conversation. Now this isn't saying I disagree or agree with this statement but this comment is a good and original one. It would be better if there was a timestamp to the fundy's argument as it would allow an easier understanding of the point fundy made but isn't necessary. 8/10
@@alejandrocoy5405 They never said that they won’t add sharks. Probably not as hostiles or such. I still don’t get why this argument still is going on, especially since one of the latest DLCs of bedrock *adds* sharks
@justaguy2183 the suggestion page for minecraft quite literally says to not suggest to add sharks in game
2:20 this already felt like a Fundy & Phoenix podcast and it's great.
I would listen to this as podcast too
I agree
best podcast imo
5:45 I have a hardcore run, and in there I took 20 minutes to kill the ender dragon. I felt the AI doesn't care about me and I spent what felt 12 minutes waiting for the dragon to come down. Destroying the pillars emptied my arrow reserve and I could do nothing but wait at the end portal. When the dragon finally approached the ground, I emptied 1/3 of it's hp. Had to do that twice or thrice. Worst boss fight I ever had.
Dude I actually want a podcast from these two
yes please
I second this!
Fundyxsc
And it appears based on the likes others do as well
Oh absolutely!
We need more casual chats between Fundy and Phoenix, about various stuff, minecraft or not.
And yes, totally agree with Fundy's point on MC Legends. They have the concept, they have the design, they have the implementation, what's stopping them from bringing these into the main game? Why can't there be variants of drowned, husks, strays, pigmen and endermen?
They have everything laid out, but wont implement it.
And Minecraft Earth
The main issue with these newer Minecraft updates, is that they just keep adding more stuff instead of building onto the foundation they already have. Like c'mon! Add an oasis to the deserts not just some well! Make more magic stuff, clearly they have ideas from dungeons and other spin offs! Do more! It annoys me so much when a game has such great potential that's so within reach, but doesn't as a result of laziness
I believe that Mojang is a mess, on a corporate level. They've got the Bedrock crew which is totally different from the Java crew. Each new game that gets made under the Mojang name is likely yet another crew of people doing their own things. Trying to get those features included into Minecraft is like getting them to include features from totally different games: like Terraria, Lego Fortnite, and such. It's been a mess since Microsoft, and I don't think it's going to change.
Seeing Peenix and Fundy laughing together again is just so great.
peenix 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
PEENIX?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
peenix
wait till they find out about michael penix
peenix and bundy
One of the biggest things here is consistency, which is a very important part of Minecraft as I've learned. Mojang are putting consistency *first,* when in reality they should think up a creative idea, and work their way into making it consistent. It's why mods like create are so popular; they have a very creative point, and they work their way back to make it consistent and clean with the base game as best they can.
I disagree, there's nothing truly consistent about the new Minecraft, They aren't making new features like the old ones and they aren't removing the base Minecraft for consistency with their new family friendly shiny direction either
How is mojang consistent? Every new feature seems completely disconnected with the existing systems. Copper doesn’t interact with anything existing before it, glow squid ink is used for one thing, armadillo shells are used for one thing ect.
I disagree hardcore. There's multiple layers of inconsistency across the entire game, all the history of stupid (TOOLS ENCHANTING HUNGER) design choices. There's no possible way to even *be* consistent anymore. Management's just gonna make the devs add more stuff onto the top of the heap that is the game until they can't no more.
@@crazydragy4233 >They aren't making new features like the old ones
Like Saddled pigs? Gold Armor/tools? Lapis? etc etc
>their new family friendly shiny direction
You mean Notch's?
@@higueraft571 Nah man, this is disengenous as heck.
The point is is that everyhting now has a singular use and never ties into any systems and that Microsoft pushes lame design under the guise protecting the real world from feeding animals the wrong food now apparently ; ". If you actually struggled to get that I spelt it out for you.
Funny thing is, wolves still exist in the game.
Their sole existence nullifies any arguments, why sharks can't be added to the game.
True true... poor sharks
wolves wouldn't be added in current mc
they dont want you to know this but theyre free doggos, just take one from the woods
And wolves attack foxes. And zombies attack baby turtles. Mojang got weird standards.
They say they can’t be added because (This quote won’t be exact) “We will not add a hostile mob that is a real creature because it would encourage killing that creature in real life,” basically the reason fireflies didn’t get added, and wolves are neutral so they’re fine to be in game
Seeing Fundy and Feeniqx cstching up together has made my day
Who is Feeniqx?
@@PhoenixSC You, I think.
@@PhoenixSCobviously it was a spelling mistake, he meant to say urineix the renounded and world famous Minecraft TH-camr
@@PhoenixSC obliveenixsc
Wheetabix sc
I would be super down to more videos like this, with you just talking about current topics with someone, be it Fundy or whoever. Really enjoyable watch
Niko pfp spotted
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@@arandomgamerrr Yes... Our forces grow stronger.
I agree with fundy,
It'd be so badass to add all of the blocks, enemies, items, and features from earth, dungeons, legends and china edition.
Maybe not all, but earth has tons of great candidates such as Furnace Golems and Bone Spiders.
Modders get to work on that
@calebmiller3644in bedrock edition there’s a setting which will allow you to access the chemistry features from the education edition. When I it is activated you can craft coloured torches and other stuff
8:13 China Edition shows off a lot of cool stuff, but the thing to remember is it's not really like the Java Edition we're used it. It's more like Bedrock Edition in the sense that you have the base game, but then it's also inside this hub launcher of sorts that hosts all the forums, minigames, a marketplace and everything else minecraft-related, so the material you see is for this hub app and very likely includes all of these extra addons and things, official and community-made.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are just straight stealing modded content from the community as well to beef out their offering.
Why is your first thought that they're "stealing" content? Pretty racist ngl
@@Zorooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Mainly because I've heard from other people saying they've taken their content.
@@Zoroooooooooooooooooooooooooooi think they meant that mojang is stealing from the community creators outside of china and is putting their worki into the chinese ver of the game (not sure tho, the comment is kinda confusing)
@@Sollace you've "heard" it. ok. i've "heard" the opposite.
do you mind actually linking a video?
@@Zorooooooooooooooooooooooooooo China has lackluster copyright enforcement, they routinely take rip content and designs from other sources to the point where even their entire military is copied outdated American designs. Thats just how China is. You ever googled a product and found 20 identical items, with slightly different branding all from china?
Lot of Chinese games have names and content thats clearly a direct "inspiration" from more popular games like "state of survival" copying "state of decay" etc.
I love that your videos are so chill. It's great to listen to a calm conversation or reaction instead of people screaming about doing challenges or doing cool things in-game.
Imagine if sharks were added as passive mobs that are only hostile once you hit them, you take damage or if you step into water while not at full hp.
could even add a use for the poisoned potato, by having the poison status effect repel the sharks, as they can tell you're inedible even though you're damaged. Though, I'd say adding a "bleeding" effect for a while after taking non-poison/wither damage would make more sense than just basing their hostility on your health.
6:59 That's exactly a point I made recently. I'm beggining to think that Mojang planned to ad all the features that any mob chosen could replace, like how we got block extension placement without the crab being added. I thikn mob votes are truly irrelevant.
Having the mob win, just makes sure the way to get that item is obscure and annoying.
Idk, I still wish the Iceologer won instead of the glow squid, it's just so much cooler.
Me remembering Dolphins are neutral in minecraft (they will attack you if you attack them but are otherwise harmless)
"Hey wait why cant they just do that with sharks?"
Makes more sense than polar bears being neutral too
I think it's just bc Jaws ruined sharks. If Jaws had been a polar bear, we'd have sharks but not polar bears in Minecraft.
I don't blame Mojang, it's really Hollywood's fault.
@@imperfectimp Jaws only ruined sharks as far as people are ignorant and illiterate. Whose fault is that we can't have fireflies then?
1:30
I had the pleasure of meeting Jim Abernethy several years ago when he went to sharkcon down here in Florida, absolutely wonderful man and kind as could be. We talked for a little bit and he's what inspired me to work towards becoming a shark conservationist.
That's amazing!!
3:31 1000% true. I play casually, I watch casually, and I really would rather just spend my energy and little bits of free time playing than fussing too much with community feedback and interaction stuff. It seems like Mojang/Microsoft is absolutely updating the game based solely on content creators that do Minecraft TH-cam as a job and who "max out" the features and gameplay which makes it seem like we constantly need new and oddly-specific features to keep the content machine running.
Great pilot ep, I think you're good to rollout the rest of season 1.
The phoenix and fundy podcast is something I'd actually really enjoy watching.
In regard to adding things from Dungeons to Minecraft, I really wish the Redstone golem was added, would be a fun boss and the difference in size would make the fight that much more epic
I’m gonna be honest, I love these two. It’s soo fitting if they made a podcast, and I would listen. I’d never thought today they collab lol
A phoenix and fundy podcast would be so fun. Just them making a podcast the classic way (no imagery) or maybe building something in Minecraft while they talk.
8:31 As Chinese player, unfortunately this Chinese version is not available outside of China. It is also currently stuck in 1.18 unless you buy mods and texture packs from there resource store. The vanilla gameplay is quite similar to the original game. The fox Fundy pointed at is like a default immortal pet that you can buy textures and skins for and can carry extra inventory. However, if you get laggy enough, you might get glitched into the pet’s form with no known way out lol.
Chinese players get a chunky fox friend? That's adorable!
I wonder as well, can Chinese players play the classic minecraft java or is that not playable for you guys like how we can't play the Chinese version?
@@Syreyup there is a pretty big Chinese java community too. I don't know much about them other than when their discoveries in Redstone and farming occasionally trickle into the wider audience, kind of like the German community. Fallen_breath is an example of such a TH-camr.
so why do your country got to vote anything? you arent even in the last version, holy shit.
its not fair to a bunch of people that no one know nothing, to decide something achieved globally.
who da hell are these people voting?
@@Syreyup We can play classic Java, though it does need money. The Chinese version is free but you need to enter your id card info (not really just any adults’) to play since the government said underage ppl can’t game too much.
Mojang has been on a role with angering/disappointing/dividing the community these past few years. It’s a shame really.
Part of it is Microsoft forcing their policy on an already well established community, and part of it is Mojang failing to deliver promises/adding stuff with no real purpose/purpose that interest the player.
I really think this is just Microsoft filtering out all the cool shit because it "doesn't align with their strategy" and anything that makes it through the filter is just unexciting
Another part of it is Mojang doesn't have a media manager, or at least an involved one. It's all actual devs trying to balance between social media and making the game, so managing social media falls second. If they had some person acting as an interface between audience and devs a lot of the communication mistakes probably wouldn't have happened.
I just started playing Vintage Story, and the vibe is just so stark. I am angry when I get killed by wolves and bears repeatedly, but it lends to actually making this all feel like it matters. It feels like I'm really trying to survive.
Minecraft for me just doesn't really feel like anything anymore. The team on it has just hit corporate grid lock. I didn't realize how bad it was until I looked at dev communication from vintage story, and it's like "yeah we're adding deer and many varieties of them," and they just do that kind of thing every update.
Kind of. It's mainly the fact that they're afraid to turn off anybody outside the community. They desperately want Minecraft to appeal to the widest possible demographic, while not caring half as much about pleasing their already established playerbase. You know, because they've already paid for the game.
@zeppie_ was kinda spot on to say that it doesn't align with their strategy. Their strategy being "make the game as profitable as possible, for as long as possible".
@@LMF1716 Honestly, the days when the devs would just speak their minds about the game on their respective social media accounts were some of the best that Minecraft ever had. You could FEEL that these people really cared about making a game that people LOVED.
How to somewhat fix the mob vote(major hot take): get 3 mobs that basically do the same thing but are different enough to be, well... different mobs. They would have the same mechanic as each other and would play a similar part in the Minecraft lore. Just make them look different and have different sounds and somewhat different mechanics. Not 3 completely different mobs that each have their own unique thing about them. Because then we will not be able to ever experience what the other options are like rather than 3 mobs that are already pretty similar in mechanics and lore to the game. Honestly I think that this would fix the mob vote. That or Mojang could just bring back every single mob vote mob back and never have a mob vote again.
Llamas vs alpacas was the best (/ only good) mob vote.
1:25 this sharks name is emma and shes a tiger shark
Minecraft: We won't add fireflies because Frogs die in real life because of them.
Dolphines: .......
Mojang: We are now removing glass, as aquariums harm dolphins!
Watch the delete dolphins in the future
Dolphins harm pufferfish IRL!
Dolphins in the corner bullying the fishes
@@AriellaDisNutsbullying is an understatement, it’s way worse
I think that wolf armor could be useful if you could apply like 1 mega armor enchant to it. So like if you put Fire Resistance on wolf armor, it gives immunity to fire/lava. Blast Protection is immunity to explosion damage, Projectile Protection makes them like the Breeze mob, Feather Fall is immunity to fall damage, etc.
Maybe allow one minor enchant too, to get half the value. This sort of feature would do far more than simple armor points
Or if you could craft the armadillo shell with a material ( diamond, netherite, iron) to make it that type of wolf armour. So if you crafted armadillo scute with a diamond you would get diamond dog armour and it would be really strong. Also the idea of enchantments is really good too.
Too much for an indie company
@@Alansaad_ I honestly can't tell whether this is a joke or not but Mojang is LITERALLY owned by Microsoft.
@@donutlovingwerewolf8837its sarcasm
@@donutlovingwerewolf8837 the joke is that, for a company as massive as they are, they struggle to compete in terms of updates with indie companies.
I have been looking for a good minecraft podcast for so long and pheonix sc and fundy are some of my favorite youtubers. If they made a podcast together I will cry with joy and watch every episode.
A delightful watch. I’d love to see more videos with you just discussing the state of Minecraft, features you’d like to be added. I really enjoy these discussion videos!
I would 100% watch a podcast with phoenix and fundy
Tamed Wolf in Java has a built-in damage resist, taking roughly half the damage from mob's melee and explosion.
Bedrock doesn't have one, probably because everyone forgot about it even though it's been around for years, and took quite a while for wiki to even noticed it.
Since Wolf Armor doesn't really do anything to reduce explosive damage, it's the only reason why Tamed Wolf on java can survive the explosion from Creeper.
Wolf armor seem to only reduce melee and ranged attack from mobs and player, it does reduce for quite a good chunk when it does, but Wolf rarely has trouble on due to how AI targetting work(prefer first attacker instead of most recent attacker for majority of the overworld mobs)
As much as I feel bad keep commenting this same thing.
Unless wolf armor provides some kind of fire resistance or feather falling, it's not going to do much. Their AI isn't very good. I don't even bother taming wolves and cats anymore because they're just a nuisance. You have them sit in your base or something and then you take damage and they all teleport to you and then they probably all end up dying. That was worth it... Then there are the times you want to lightly damage something and the wolves go full on "so you've chosen death" mode.
@@myhandleiswhat the problem tamed wolf have is the lack of movement speed, this usually lead to player having to lure monsters into them to make them work.
in combat, all the overworld mobs prefer first attacker which lead to:
if you hit the mob first, wolf will most likely never take any damage, or if they do, it's very little.
if the wolf hit the mob first, wolf will likely take the hit.
for nether, mobs AI prefer most recent attack, like Piglins and Hoglins, so they're less viable in there.
back in older version Overworld mobs targetting AI used to be the same as Nether's, but at some point they changed it.
This include Creeper, which mean that if mojang let the wolf target Creeper now, Creeper won't try to explode on the attacking wolf, since there's no way for Creeper to hit player without exploding.
The java version of the wolf has 5 hearts when not tamed and 10 when tamed, with 22 points of armor from the wolf armor (equivalent of diamond horse armor) it can survive one creeper explosion.
In bedrock the tamed wolf only has 5 hearts so even with armor doesn't survive.
The wolf armor protects from all (non magical) sources of damage, even explosion, but it's simply non enough, especially in bedrock.
If you use the formula to calculate the damage from a point blank creeper (creeper does a max of 24 hearts of damage, but it depends on how close you are) you can see why diamond horse armor it's not enough.
EDIT. I wanted to add that the reason mojang put wolf armor as an option in the mob vote is because players wanted it, but mojang missed the point, the players wanted wolf armor so that the wolf would not die at all, so they wanted a really good armor
(Some players overestimate how good non enchanted armors are in this game so they voted for armadillo, even if you have netherite, if not enchanted, the creeper can still take a good chunk of your health)
@@mechanical_squid4047
Small fact: Creeper's explosion damage to mobs doesn't scale with difficulty unlike to player. I discover this while testing the tamed wolf.
Bonus fact: Creeper used to deal even less damage to mobs in older version, don't know when but it happened, try picking any older version where you can test.
And no, Wolf armor does nothing against creeper explosion
Creeper at point-blank always deal 32 damage(16 hearts) to non-players.
Tamed Wolf has 20 health(10 hearts), on java it will take 17(from (32/2)+1 according to wiki) instead of 32 from explosion, survive with roughly 3 health.
you can check by hitting the wolf after it survive the explosion to check it remaining health.
If you curious, it built-in resistant does not reduce player's melee and any ranged attacks
one of the Phoenix's video already test the armored wolf one on Java(survived with 3.7 health), which proved that wolf armor does not reduce explosive damage(they still have roughly the same amount of health after explosion, both with and without armor)
or maybe they do but very little amount.
@@Urkikk well if it really doesn't protect from explosions it's really dumb.
I never saw this collab coming, but it is one of the best Minecraft collaborations of all time
I like this podcast-like style of video and hope to see more
I love the glowsquid, purely for its ambiance. Always nice to spot one from outside a river and you immediately know that it's connected to a cave system
Ye I voted for it, am proud 😌
When exploring the oceans of my Minecraft world I found a giant flooded cave going down to deepslate. I decided to go diving for diamonds in it (using magma blocks for air) and the glowsquids added so much ambiance to what would have otherwise been a completely barren environment
the only time i've ever seen glowsquids is when they're falling from high heights
The most irritating thing about glowsquids to me isn't that its a fundamentally bad mob that harms the game, if anything they're totally fine addition that adds more life. The problem is that its inclusion is an opportunity cost, FOR FUCKING WHAT?
@@MailMainbutnotSame, glow squids are so bad at existing they farm themselves
I need now a 2~3 hours Montlhy Podcast of Pheonix and Fundi just chilling and talking about the current state of Minecraft!
WE NEED fundy and phoenix collab more often! Their energy goes together so wel.
Fundy was literally saying the stupidest shit i've ever heard. What are you smoking. Crack? Is it crack? Is that what you smoke?
Man the 11 minutes flied by so fast due to how fun this is I didn't even notice!
I could legit listen to you guys talk for MANY HOURS straight and not get bored AT ALL!
If there is ever more footage or even something out of the blue like frequent podcasts or series, I'm 1000% down to watch :D
Thaumcraft being mentioned at least once after all these years brings a tear to my eye
7:41 yea no sh!t i dont think they can use like much american media
More of this please! I want this to be a regular thing. Easiest content in the world!
Yoo this is really fun, i could actually imagine a podcast with the two of you and maybe guests sometimes
Unironically I'd love a Phoendy Podcast
So much stuff here i 100% agree with
When it comes to the mob vote i feel like we picked the wrong mob every time other then the last 2
The last mob vote all 3 mobs were worthless
The one before that there was only 1 good answer even mojang wanted you to pick and that was the sniffer...and they fumbled that so badly
Even on the 2022 mob vote I would have liked the Rascal instead
I play bedrock & don't use any cheats so I wouldn't have minded the copper/tuff golem or the glare.
To be honest I forgot that the sniffer was even part of a mob vote, I cannot remember what the other options were
Man I know the chance of something like this obviously being incredibly slim, given how I'm not a content creator, not super active in either fundy or phoenix's communities, and just a random person, but I would love to just have a genuine conversation with these people.
Its just two guys discussing about minecraft and such, and I think thats great, especially bringing up stuff that I have such amazing memories of, like Thaumcraft my beloved and Terraria
I voted for the armadillo mostly because it’s a new mob living in the savannah, which is a biome that could use some content. If the crab spawned on beaches too instead of just the mangrove Forrest, I probably would have voted for it instead.
We absolutely need a Phoenix and Fundy podcast!
YES
i voted for the armadillo because i didn’t want them to add the crab in mangrove forests. if we get crabs i want them on the beach and i thought it was so stupid that they wanted to put them in a rare biome.
if they had shown off crabs spawning on beaches then i’m confident the crabs would’ve won or at least it would’ve had my vote.
armadillos we’re just the 2nd best option as the savanna was in dire need of a unique mob!
The crab shown in the mob vote was red and blue.
In real life there's a similar crab (Cardiosoma crassum) which lives in mangroves, swamps and forest.
So it wouldn't be a weird place
@@EzeOnTH-cam with all due respect, why the hell would you want a rare biome to have more life than a biome you'll find more often?
@@locirnos To have a reason why to explore that rare biome perhaps...
Why do people want to find mushroom fields? Because of the cows and the mycelium, because no hostile mobs can spawn there.
Why do people want to find deserts?
For desert temples, cactus, sand for glass.
In a biome like mangrove swamp, where the only two porposes are getting blocks for builder players, and getting frogs for farming players, getting a crab, which reach would serve equally to all playstyles is a good addition.
And also: why not?
There was no reason to add wolf armour. The mob votes don't give enough info, if they told us how they work
@@EzeOnTH-cam i’m aware that they were based off of a real crab species but in the little animation the crab kinda looked like shit. obviously it’s not how it would look in game as it was a 2D animation but it would’ve looked similar and like i said i think myself and many others just wanted a regular orange beach crab.
now if we got like 3 types of crab like the beach crab, the king crab, and then the mangrove swamp crab then that would’ve been cool but why would mojang go the extra mile to make a feature somewhat decent…
I love the most recent Mob Votes so much. An entire community being forced to pick only one thing to get that there isn't any reason where they shouldn't be given under normal conditions, ripping and tearing each other apart over which one that they want to win, and Mojang still manages to make the winner feel useless. The Glow Squid doesn't actually glow, the Allay has a tiny radius when it comes to picking up items, and now the armadillo doesn't give strong armor. You cannot tell me they wouldn't have managed to find a way to botch the crab too. They peaked with the foxes and goats, just atmospheric mobs with novelty functions only intended to give more life to their intended biomes. Either they should go back to that, or not do votes anymore.
yall should absolutely do more stuff together. Id watch a Fun-Ix SC collab series.
you are so wholesome together AND you are spitting facts, probably one of my fav videos from Phoenix from now on
i would unironically love a phoenix and fundy podcast,
5:14
Wither: -gets stuck in a cave
Bedrock players: yeah, about that
5:38 omgggg CALAMITY MENTIONED WOOOO
Can confirm Fundy's point about a mostly silent part of the community voting for armadillo, I am one of them. I just like wolves. Are they like useful? No, but I like having and collecting pets. I don't really go on twitter or anything so I don't interact with the community much.
Plus it seems like armadillo voters get shit on sometimes so I just don't mention it
Idk, I kinda just voted for the armadillo because I like armadillos
I loved all three options so when I had to make my mind, I kinda just went for the middle ground
I really couldn't care less about wolf armour
I voted for the armadillo because:
1. (Despite cute) the penguin was the most useless of the three options
And 2. I think people over-hype the crab.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but (as I understand) the crabclaw would only extend your reach for *placing* blocks.
It wouldn't give you a combat-advantage and it wouldn't help you with mining. (Atleast I think so, as I don't think it was ever stated otherwise)
So if we're being realistic, none of these are "good".
The armadillo/wolf armor just (half-ass) make a long standing wish come true.
@@yak5438 The crab would have also allowed you to break blocks further away. This was confirmed in the crab's description in the Minecraft China mob vote page.
I love Minecraft but I think that what the community needs is a completely fresh experience to reinvigorate things. Check out vintage story lol
I'm gonna be honest, I feel that Minecraft needs to die off again. That way, it can be cleansed from this second wave of toxicity. If anything, it'll be a lot quieter and relaxed.
That's why I only play modded nowadays. I can't even be bothered to keep up with the new updates anymore because they're extremely uninteresting while the modded world is consistently interesting
Can’t wait for hytale to come out in 10 years and completely blow out minecraft
Vintage story is a really cool experience after playing Minecraft. Minecraft environment never was too hostile toward the player, but since villages are so common now and iron armor+shield (which you can get literally in 10-15 minutes in) making you almost invulnerable to most mobs, calling modern Minecraft a "survival game" became a joke.
3:17 I actually agree, I’d probably be a part of that community. We don’t have many friendly desert mobs so I voted armadillo
nowwwww in savanaahhhhhh
that is a double us
A Fundy and PhoenixSC podcast would be fire. I love this style of videos.
They should have a podcast
Frfr
Yes. YES
Minecraft china edition has a built in chat and modding system so all extra features in china edition comparable as bedrock marketplace mods except Minecraft china edition is free and all the mods are also free!
and many say people of china aren't free enough, checkmate liberals
bro that intro scared the hell out of me 😭the b-roll immediately into a wall of white text on a black background with the first words being "Two years ago" made me think he died
I love conversations like these, it's so nice. ❤
its illegal to be this early . Phoenix you should play Minecraft Dungeons Multiplayer .
Speaking of mobs from other variants of MC that should honestly be added to the game: Minecraft Story Mode's Wither Storm would honestly make a _legitimately_ threatening boss in base MC, if the mods people have made are any indication. Really the only issue that might pop up is the question of how to summon it, since you can't exactly get command blocks in Survival without using cheats
You can technically get command block in survival without cheats through a very complicated glitch in older versions
Bad idea, it might scare the 5 year olds /s
The Wither is already threatening boss. Maybe not in full protection IV netherite armour, but nevertheless...
Mojang didn’t make Story Mode
I've never played Story Mode but I like the idea of summoning the Wither and then after "killing" him, he becomes the Wither Storm. Or perhaps the next time you summon him, he has become the Wither Storm.
3:40 People may judge, but I chose armadillo because the savanna has no unique mobs
We want that Podcast, you both are awesome!
i just graduated college at 23 and the fact that time moves forward has seriously set in. it’s such an obvious fact of life yet whenever i think about it too hard my brain breaks a little. strange how much changes over time
Minecraft is 15 years old now - I was in elementary school when it came out.
That is an insane amount of time for one game to have the cultural weight it has. People will always play Minecraft of course, but I think it's due time for it to settle into retirement - being a classic that people go back to, but not as much as a juggernaut.
I want room for games like Vintage Story to get more attention, and eventually, Hytale.
The moment in history when phoenix made a long video
it shall never be forgotten
And was kinda mid
@@minecraftsteve5201 hi steve from minecraft
@@symmetries_ hello, fellow gamer!
-> 11 minutes
“Long video”
Good lord what has happened to the internet
I completely agree with Fundy and the idea of putting Dungeon and Legends mobs in vanilla Minecraft here. Like, all the end stuff could completely revamp The End and make it more interesting like they did with the nether update. On top of that, the vanilla type mods for the game would be cool combined with them too.
I was not expecting this to be a podcast between Phoenix and Fundy, this was perfect to listen to before my work meeting
8:06 I remember a few years back when I was still in china and I downloaded the Chinese Minecraft, it was a game on my phone. I don’t really like then cuz there wasn’t anything different to Minecraft bedrock now. And these new animals and mobs are rather a limited time event that you can only play in like a marketplace map or something. And most likely it is going to ask you for a Chinese id to login because they want to make sure you are real human that is in China. But that was from quite a time ago things may be changed now. Also on the page there is no pc version of this game. The link that it say pc version download links you to a Chinese mobile emulator.
Not even going to lie, if they ever did make a podcast just talking abt random mc stuff I would love that so dearly. It would be so good! Also love the diff kind of content, it is probs a one off vid but its quite nice and entertaining.
I would love to see more of these types of videos
6:01 I think it's still hard to balance to have for example the ender dragon fight more atractive. I think, Minecraft would have to have more movement options like a dodge, which isn't to trippy, because the body is moving and the cam is going with the body movement. I guess the hardest thing would be the first person, an enhanced view of f5 or a symbol, where the dragon is and how far away it is so you can really dodge or something like this or have weapons like the trident pushing you into the dragon with a certain enchantment, so you can give it one more hit in the air would be neat. Or have the ender dragon a phase 2, where it would get faster in flight, stronger in his attacks with besides dragon breath having different forsm of being shot, like ascythe form or homing bullets, which also takes practice with dodging to survive them. Terraria has more freedom to what they can so, since there you can literally have a bullethell boss like the new added DLC boss the nameless deity, which fight is just absurd xD
8:48 CHONKY FONDY
I voted for the armadillo because I was *hoping* that when they're rolled up, they would be collidable like shulkers.
And then RaysWorks would make a video on how useful this is in farms.
(Also, a collidable entity that can be made *actually* invisible, unlike shulkers, and used in datapacks for real forcefields/double jump.)
I left a suggestion like this on the minecraft feedback site if you wanted to express support for it! (because according to mojang the only valid place to leave feedback and suggestions is their awful feedback site, ugh.) It's a comment on the pinned Armadillo and Wolf Armor topic, which is in the "Mobs, Animals, and non-Humanoids" forum. The suggestion for block-sized armadillo collisions is the first comment on the second page of comments.
It would be a massive overhaul to have a collision shape that moves dynamically like that, but I suppose it could work. Shulkers are easy because they take up whole blocks and their positions are whole numbers
I think this is a huge problem with the mob vote. People vote for something with the idea that what is offered will do more than what is told, and then when it is finally implemented, the mob offers no additional value other than the initially promised thing.
When glow squids were an option, I desperately wanted them because I thought it would finally give Mojang a reason to consider dynamic lighting in the game and have them emit light. And at the same time, since they're already changing lights, potentially bring colored lights in the game. Obviously that was unrealistic and we ended up just getting the glow squid (and this was before they started promising "features" to go along with the mobs). I still like the glow squid- I think it creates a better ambience in the new caves- but I think it was a big missed opportunity.
I really wanted the crab because it actually added something new. Having an item that increases reach isn't that insane on paper, but it would kind of be a new type of equipment, almost like an Elytra. It reminds me of Terraria with the equipment in that game, giving upgrades to all different kinds of stats. Makes the game way more fun IMO.
It still has spiders
@@DapperNurdand then they do the oppisiste for mobs they hate i choose crab because almost garentee athropod and also said no extra materials
a super easy way to make the dragon fight better is to have specific phases where you can hurt the dragon or destroy the crystals, the dragon can perch on the obsidian towers instead of just the portal, and the dragon actually dives at you like before
enter the end, dragon invincible, start slowly destroying crystals (crystals would have an hp instead of just blowing up instantly) once 1 or 2 have been destroyed, dragon vulnerable for 30 seconds or so, crystals can't be hit until 30 seconds are up, repeat until all crystals are gone in which dragon would get faster and dive at you more until you kill it
and of course boss music might be good as well
and maybe get rid of the endermen, if not, drastically reduce the amount in the arena
Jack Black has already done voice work for Minecraft (sort of)
he did the audiobook version of "Minecraft-The Island"
The chillest and the most chaotic programmer together in a vc is what I wanted to see my whole life. Thank you urinixsc
I genuinely really want to see a phoenix and fundy podcast now
un ironically we need a podcast with you and fundy
I would love to see more of this kind of stuff talking with other minecraft creators about the state of the game
Regarding the utility of wolf armor: it's worth mentioning that in the newest 1.20.5 snapshot, you can use change the list of items that receive enchantments. So whether or not the Vanilla game lets you add Protection IV or Fire Prot to wolf (or horse) armor now, you will be able to with a datapack containing a single JSON file going forward.
As you always hate on Bedrock, please note that the dragon pushing you back as well as the fallen logs are both already in Bedrock
movable chests and furnaces are also on bedrock, also placing blocks downwards directly in front of you (while standing still or moving)
and the creative building works so much better in my opinion, we don't have world edit tho
unfortunately we also have the marketplace :/
Wait, java doesn't have the fallen logs??
@@arachnarmidillidia nope
fallen logs were stolen from pocket edition lmao dont give credit to bedrock for that one
@@walkingonneedles bedrock edition is the same version as pocket edition, pocket just means it can be installed on mobile devices
windows and xbox also have the bedrock edition, which is coded in c++ while Java edition is coded in... well, in Java haha
I think the problem with the mob vote isn't directly the ones that win, but that they don't really do much with with the winner. Realistically they could make any mob good but they don't develop them to that point, for example I think people were saying that they were hoping they could have the phantom as a pet or ride it or something and I'm sure if that was the case everyone would probably love it but they gave it one mid functionality and called it there (plus they made it annoying as hell)
Phantoms aren't annoying if you aren't literally the lowest skill player imaginable
@@SnoFitzroy I disagree. Phantoms dont have damage, have shitty AI, that constantly stuck in walls, has useless loot and they noisy. Also they VERY slow, fight without bow is tedious and boring.
No wonder every second server disables them.
I don't like the mob vote because it usually feels like a mob for the sake of adding a mob and for player engagement. Then once it's voted on, the team has to find a way to make the mob work within the systems-based gameplay of Minecraft, and once it does finally get introduced they don't do anything that something else couldn't have already done.
I love Minecraft, and that's why I want to see the team re-examine features and mechanics that are outdated or are behind the curve when it comes to how they gel with everything else.
Having Spiders run away from Armadillos is good because it makes them feel important to the ecosystem of the game.
I'd love to continue to hear you and Fundy, or even other MC content creators, talk about things for hours. This was really enjoyable.
I do hope you two can get your hands on that version of MC. That looks so wild.
Yeah, the birch forest has no real reason to not be here by now. It was like...3-4 extra blocks, maybe, and different terrain generation and tree generation. They coulda done that. :-/ I'm not going to spout doom and gloom about every little thing, but they really could have done that. Same with fireflies. Just have frogs rarely try and eat them and if they do they get poisoned for a second or two. Just enough to teach people "Hey that's not good." Bam, done. No issues. They did it with parrots and cookies and that flat out kills the bird, why not with the frogs? The real reason was probably the things being a laggy mess if more than x were around at the same time, and not wanting to tell us that so people would just go "So make them not laggy hur hur."
Of course Fundy spots a thicc fox.
Two things I have to say on the comparison of Terraria and Minecraft though, they're two completely different games in terms of gameplay with combat. If people really want Minecraft to have more combat that's challenging or meaningful, then they have to redo the entire combat system and probably mess heavily with some other systems too. No, I don't mean revert the combat back to spam click to win, aka easier than it is now. I mean completely change it from the core. That's the only real way. A few mods try their best to change the combat to be cool and flashy or what have you, but the end result feels not only out of place a lot of the time, but often clunky too.
And secondly, Minecraft is a 3D sandbox building game with combat and exploration elements. Terraria is 2D a gear focused combat and movement progression game that got enough updates to also heavily flesh out the building and exploration elements. Minecraft was "difficult" for most players when they first started playing. Same with Terraria. The only difference is that Minecraft has nowhere else to go past the small number of mobs and the way the combat works. Terraria eventually has you take on the moon lord with an attack that is a laser beam that you either have to fast climb up past with wings with good height, flight time, and acceleration to dodge around, wand of discord to teleport through it, or dodge with blocks. All with a 2D view to know where everything is on screen. There's nothing like that in Minecraft, and without changing a LOT of things, there won't be.