Maybe have an end of season review, too. I remember that when people had painted their top sheets, the paint ended up having cracks given the boards flexing through time.
You should probably do a bit of research on the chemicals your promoting people to dump on their boards. Researchers have already found lots of contamination in subsoil and mtn ecosystems from ski/board wax. Ride on
@@deepPuddlesarefun you're not riding your snowboard upside down, are you? So what does it matter what is put on the topsheet if that's not what's making direct contact with snow?
@@SugmaDLigmaNutz keeping snow off the top sheet gets the weight off the top of the board, making it easier to stay on top of the powder and also helps you manuveur easier, also doing spins and flips with snow stuck to your board is harder.
When I was working at Hayes Brothers Snowboards in 2004, Steve ran out of his top sheet material, and decided to try Petex bottom sheets pressed as top sheets. It had the same effect as this neverwet and nothing sticks to them. it also made for a really strong durable snowboard that had great uniform flex. I still have a couple boards laminated this way and they've held up well after hundreds of days of riding them since 2004.
First test of my Snow Joe was a massive blizzard that dropped 20+ inches of snow with drifts well over 3ft. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxoHYZbq5g9fkcAtinlTqstNlje-UQkCHN This snow thrower is definitely not designed for this much snow but it powered through it. We did have to knock down taller drifts with a shovel and at times the chute was awkward because snow banks were much higher than it could throw, but still much easier than shoveling. The plus side of the small size is the maneuverability. Easy to lift up to walkways and works in tight spaces near cars. Highly recommend.Note: after assembling it started but did not turn. The belt wasn't in place. Easy fix.
For real...I want to see more of how topsheet looks after spraying, and very interested to see/hear what that topsheet looks like in a week/month/3months. I suppose I could live with some discoloration, but if it causes peeling or whatever, obviously that's a dealbreaker.
The haze actually reduced significantly after riding it! I don’t think it will cause an issue with the top sheet but I’ll do an update later in the season
@@BoardArchive Awesome, thanks for the reply TJ. Sounds like the repellent just sits on top as a separate layer and isn't reactive (doesn't mix) with the top-sheet material...good to hear. Keep us posted!
Ruin top sheet? I doubt it, but with the board constantly flexing it won't last. I've thought about putting super hydrophobic spray on back and front of my board long ago but it just won't last long enough for the money.
They actually proved this works well on clothing and boots, from wet concrete, mud, sodas, oil, basically almost anything fluid. However the catch is it does stiffen the fabric a bit and it also breaks down faster on fabrics. 1 guy even treated the inside of his smartphone and it was waterproof. Try any of this at your own risk ⚠️
I haven’t been snowboarding in 15 years. I used to ride New Hampshire , Maine and Vermont all winter. I had a really bad accident my very last time I was on the mountain. Wife and I got pregnant 14 years ago and the rest is history. My best friend is a really good skier so we always hiked to the out of bounds backwoods area. I miss it so much !!!!!
Really interesting. Maybe it would be a good option for pro snowboarders to keep their sponsor-stickers visible and they aren't covered with snow anymore. Especially for backcountry riders 👍😊
Whoa! I clicked on this video to learn more about NeverWet. Instead, I learned that "split boards" were a thing I've never seen before! Very cool... mind blown! 😲👍
I did something similar with a few of my boards this last year, except I applied turtle wax spray wax to the topsheet. One suggestion for a resort board, avoid hitting the middle section or apply some kind of stomp pad. Makes the topsheet really slippery.
I took those amazing ideas of spraying neverwet spray on the base of the board and then the ingenious idea of spraying the top of the board and then had my brilliant idea of spraying the edges of my board and wow! I now have a full never wet board and I can now float over the air due to the wetness of it. Thank you for the inspiration to be a snowboard genius. It is truly contagious! 😜
So cool that it seems to work so well. Definitely curious about the follow-up in order to know if multiple coats will be needed throughout the season and how the recoating will go if needed.
I used the fabric neverwet on my instructor jacket years ago and has worked great. I've thought about doing this. We can get some cold caked on days in the northeast. Thanks for the experiment. Good vid.
being from New Mexico and having only boarded outside my state once, I would absolutely die happy if I got to board on powder like that!! Seeing all that pow makes me so happy
Anyone considering doing this!!! Apply a thick layer of wax to your base and edges before spraying to avoid getting contamination on your base! You can scrape the wax off afterwards! Shred on!
I just ordered 3 boxes to do my whole families setup…6 snowboards…. And for chips repairs on the topcoat I use JB weld marine weld epoxy blend …plus this never wet will definitely keep things sealed
Amplid has a top sheet coating against snow build-up for this season splitboards. It has a great name too, stratospheric top sheet 😂! Love the name. Just in case you don't want to spray around stuff.
On the safety data sheet for NeverWet section 6.2: Do not allow to enter drainages or watercourses. makeityours.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/NeverWet-Topcoat-gb.pdf The two ingredients are acetone and petroleum. Do you really want petroleum products building up where you snowboard with your kids and might eventually get into waterways? Other comments on here saying they put WD-40 on their boards? Wow
petroleum and acetone are just the solvents for the hydrophobic particles and they evaporate pretty fast during the drying process... so there shouldn't be any carry over to the environment
I would be much more concerned about the sheen of oil from vehicles after a rain running straight into a waterway. A spray on solvent evaporates into the atmosphere which is what you should really be concerned about, not some micro levels of petroleum that get filtered through vegetation and dirt on a mountain side.
They have the same warning on marine coatings for boats. Release of the product itself into the environment isn't the same thing as exposing a surface with the finished application to the environment.
Spraying is obviously not the same thing as dumping the liquid contents into the mountain side. Yes the finished product is more stable than the liquid/safety sheet form but just like marine coatings this will degrade over time and leech into the environment, the top sheet will get damaged, cracked etc and while a micro amount of this getting into the mountain side from one snowboard is no big deal year after year with more than one person they will add up over time eventually. Look at the xtc skiing and how they have banned floro wax, that did accumulate and has who knows what consequences for the the environment. We can't be perfect but we need to think ahead and be more responsible if we want future generations to enjoy what we do.
Probably also help to prep the surface. Wipe it down with IPA ahead of the coating. I’ve contemplated this. Just using a ceramic coating designed for car exterior. Great vid!
Never knew such a thing even existed! Excited to try this out. Sometimes i scrape my topsheet just because i want to see it! Realising it happens quite a lot...
Try a ceramic coating next. Little sneaky trick i use on my snowmobile. Probably keeps 50-70lbs or snow off places i dont want it. Use to use it on cars all the time, its amazing.
I have been researching the phantom glide application and the potential is huge. My only concern is that it may not work so hot on rails and boxes. Anyone have any experience with this? TJ should get a free promo application for a product review
honestly if you do an update video showing no after damage i might do it to all my board so i could never have and build up or ice bergs on my boards. hmmm actual i wonder what would happen if you put in on the foot bed of the bindings would you get build up???
I was nearly convinced until I saw the haze on the topsheet... not a bad idea though. Just picked up a used split, and Union Expedition 2.0's from my local shop. Here's to hoping the Catskills get some snow this winter! We've been getting skunked the past few years.
I've used a ceramic coating that's mostly for cars in the past called cquartz. Works just the same but no haze. Application process is a tad different though. Worth the price to have no snow build up. Check it out.
Do you think turtle wax ceramic coating would work? I use that on my car. I tried rainx last year and it didn’t work on my board lol. Maybe the ceramic coating would?
Hi TJ cool trick, I was wondering if you could do an episode where you tell/explain/show if there are differences between riding a split or a normal powder board down the hill. I am wondering how it would feel like to do presses in the pow with a split, never tried one.
Yea that’s amazing and thank you for the video. I’ll keep an eye out for the follow up video after the season. Would e nice to see how it holds up in the jump park over time
Wonder if you can apply to bottom board and go faster since it resist the molecular drag from fluids...? More faster slopes! Rippin and flippin’ use a spare old board and see if I’m right!
I've heard these hydrophobic coatings are easy to rub off, so you have to be very careful when touching the board after application. I think the first ski test, where some snow stuck to the top, shows where you might have gripped the ski with your thumb. Great test, though.
Good tips bro, I hope see you again in whistler this season. I my splitboard setup almost ready to send and the avalanche course finally booked. Keep sharing the good tips bro, we appreciated it.
Maybe I should look into this. I tried putting rainx on the top of my board and it didn’t do crap lol. I really need something like this for mount hood and icy PNW frost always building up
I used Rustoleum waterproofing on my snowboard top coat and it was tits working for Park City for 3 years always was money and cheap to reapply if needed.
This was a cool experiment but would not recommend. It wears off way too fast, you only get 2-3 days out of it before its pretty much useless. Too much effort for the results and too wasteful with the chemicals
awsome! will the edges from the splitboard scratch off the spray though? it would be great to have a long term review as soon as it can also be called one.
I keep a small bottle of spray wax for emergencies in my gear bag (like my dudes forgetting to wax their setups before a big shred day 😒) and it works just like this as a top coat hydrophobic layer. Cheap and easy.
Hydrophoboic coating on the bindings (and bottom of the boots) would be even more useful! How many times have you gone to strap in after getting off a lift, and you can't close the straps because too much snow and ice is stuck between your boots and bindings?
There's a company that sells MountainFLOW Anti-Stick Spray on Amazon. I bought it for Japan and it did pretty well, but your method is sweet because you don't need to ever reapply!
Excellent experiment! It looks like it's a great idea to implement, but it would be good if you had a follow-up on any aftereffects the NeverWet might have had on your topsheet.
According to the Rustoleum NeverWet SDS the hydrophobic compound appears to be "Dimethyl silicone polymer". Now the wiki for that is under the umbrella term Polydimethylsiloxane. The environmental toxicity section says its not harmful to organisms but that's not all the ways in which it could be harmful. Also, different polymer lengths may have different issues. The polymers are not biodegradable and the smaller ones may be more toxic than the larger polymers (see SDS in third link). We don't know which polymer is in this product. Sources: www.rustoleum.com/MSDS/ENGLISH/274232.pdf en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydimethylsiloxane#Safety_and_environmental_considerations www.gpcsilicones.com/products/silicone-fluids/dimethyl
I don't think this use case will end the world but toxic chemicals cause a myriad health issues and it is foolish not to consider them. I don't think it has PFAS based on the SDS in the first link from my sources. I didn't check all the chemicals from the base coat (as top coat is only propellants and the silicone polymer). However the base coat does have polymeric Benzotriazole which may have adverse affects and does have the ability to get into the water supply (see below). But it may be bound up in the base coat and less likely to be released by abrasion. From wiki: Benzotriazole is fairly water-soluble, not readily degradable and has a limited sorption tendency. Hence, it is only partly removed in wastewater treatment plants and a substantial fraction reaches surface water such as rivers and lakes.[12] It is considered to be of low toxicity and a low health hazard to humans although exhibiting some antiestrogenic properties.[
@@BoardArchive I'd imagine that is has some flex to it. It looks like NeverWet has a fabric specific version. I already have to reapply Revivex to keep my pants and jackets waterproof. NeverWet just looks like it takes waterproofing to the extreme!
Maybe have an end of season review, too. I remember that when people had painted their top sheets, the paint ended up having cracks given the boards flexing through time.
Will follow up!
@@BoardArchive ty sir!
You should probably do a bit of research on the chemicals your promoting people to dump on their boards. Researchers have already found lots of contamination in subsoil and mtn ecosystems from ski/board wax. Ride on
@@deepPuddlesarefun you're not riding your snowboard upside down, are you? So what does it matter what is put on the topsheet if that's not what's making direct contact with snow?
@@SugmaDLigmaNutz keeping snow off the top sheet gets the weight off the top of the board, making it easier to stay on top of the powder and also helps you manuveur easier, also doing spins and flips with snow stuck to your board is harder.
When I was working at Hayes Brothers Snowboards in 2004, Steve ran out of his top sheet material, and decided to try Petex bottom sheets pressed as top sheets. It had the same effect as this neverwet and nothing sticks to them. it also made for a really strong durable snowboard that had great uniform flex. I still have a couple boards laminated this way and they've held up well after hundreds of days of riding them since 2004.
First test of my Snow Joe was a massive blizzard that dropped 20+ inches of snow with drifts well over 3ft. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxoHYZbq5g9fkcAtinlTqstNlje-UQkCHN This snow thrower is definitely not designed for this much snow but it powered through it. We did have to knock down taller drifts with a shovel and at times the chute was awkward because snow banks were much higher than it could throw, but still much easier than shoveling. The plus side of the small size is the maneuverability. Easy to lift up to walkways and works in tight spaces near cars. Highly recommend.Note: after assembling it started but did not turn. The belt wasn't in place. Easy fix.
If it doesn’t ruin the top sheet in long term I’d say that is a very good idea!
For real...I want to see more of how topsheet looks after spraying, and very interested to see/hear what that topsheet looks like in a week/month/3months. I suppose I could live with some discoloration, but if it causes peeling or whatever, obviously that's a dealbreaker.
The haze actually reduced significantly after riding it! I don’t think it will cause an issue with the top sheet but I’ll do an update later in the season
@@BoardArchive Awesome, thanks for the reply TJ. Sounds like the repellent just sits on top as a separate layer and isn't reactive (doesn't mix) with the top-sheet material...good to hear. Keep us posted!
@@BoardArchive good to know it doesn’t stay on for long haha might do that on my snowshoes
Ruin top sheet? I doubt it, but with the board constantly flexing it won't last.
I've thought about putting super hydrophobic spray on back and front of my board long ago but it just won't last long enough for the money.
Dude that’s so sick!
@evergreen prospectors I think it was candle wax.
@@tempted407 or was it speed stick deodorant??!! Love this kid and his homemade board
@@joe5834 Maybe it was! Speedstick deodorant, I wonder what that did!
@@tempted407 zoom zoom
Thanks bro! 🙌🏼🙌🏼 so stoked on how well it ended up working!
Gonna spray my jeans and hoodie with neverwet, no more expensive snow gear 😂
But on a serious note, pow boards could really use this, lessen the friction on the topsheet, board companies need to get on this
Haha some waterproof jeans would be kinda sick
lol hope it won't feel like an oven, but it looks like a very idea on the board though.
They actually proved this works well on clothing and boots, from wet concrete, mud, sodas, oil, basically almost anything fluid. However the catch is it does stiffen the fabric a bit and it also breaks down faster on fabrics. 1 guy even treated the inside of his smartphone and it was waterproof. Try any of this at your own risk ⚠️
@@BoardArchive I distinctly remember a brand putting some out during the "hood" phase of snowboarding in the early 2000's.. haha
Dude you crushed this video!!!
Thanks dude! This was a fun one!
“Why did you apply my ex to your snowboard”
Bro😭🤣🤣🤣
self burn
Because she's repellant.
Damn bro XD
broooo……
I haven’t been snowboarding in 15 years. I used to ride New Hampshire , Maine and Vermont all winter. I had a really bad accident my very last time I was on the mountain. Wife and I got pregnant 14 years ago and the rest is history. My best friend is a really good skier so we always hiked to the out of bounds backwoods area. I miss it so much !!!!!
Really interesting. Maybe it would be a good option for pro snowboarders to keep their sponsor-stickers visible and they aren't covered with snow anymore. Especially for backcountry riders 👍😊
Whoa! I clicked on this video to learn more about NeverWet. Instead, I learned that "split boards" were a thing I've never seen before! Very cool... mind blown! 😲👍
I did something similar with a few of my boards this last year, except I applied turtle wax spray wax to the topsheet. One suggestion for a resort board, avoid hitting the middle section or apply some kind of stomp pad. Makes the topsheet really slippery.
TJ, will you please follow up midseason with a Followup review update on using the NeverWet? I am curious about NeverWet longevity used on topsheet.
FYI Boeing had done some experimenting using Rainx as a cheap off the shelf water proofing for Space Shuttle tiles. May work for you.
I took those amazing ideas of spraying neverwet spray on the base of the board and then the ingenious idea of spraying the top of the board and then had my brilliant idea of spraying the edges of my board and wow! I now have a full never wet board and I can now float over the air due to the wetness of it. Thank you for the inspiration to be a snowboard genius. It is truly contagious! 😜
Can you test it for your snowboard bindings for snow built up in the bindings?
Been using caranuba wax on my top sheet since last year, would def recommend
So cool that it seems to work so well. Definitely curious about the follow-up in order to know if multiple coats will be needed throughout the season and how the recoating will go if needed.
I used the fabric neverwet on my instructor jacket years ago and has worked great. I've thought about doing this. We can get some cold caked on days in the northeast. Thanks for the experiment. Good vid.
being from New Mexico and having only boarded outside my state once, I would absolutely die happy if I got to board on powder like that!! Seeing all that pow makes me so happy
Hi, can you share your longterm experience?
Thanks!
Anyone considering doing this!!! Apply a thick layer of wax to your base and edges before spraying to avoid getting contamination on your base! You can scrape the wax off afterwards! Shred on!
... or just use masking paper and tape. Easier and cheaper.
I just ordered 3 boxes to do my whole families setup…6 snowboards…. And for chips repairs on the topcoat I use JB weld marine weld epoxy blend …plus this never wet will definitely keep things sealed
This is supper awesome man! Didn't think of it but still makes total sense. Gotta try it out when I get some touring skis!
I got jay leno car detail spray on my top with a buffer. Worked great in the U.P. on my Salomon HPS - Taka x Wolle
I’m going to apply this to all of our rental boards so customers stop coming in the shop with buckets of snow on their board. Thanks yo
lol i did that all the time when i was little
Dude. I'd never even heard of a splitboard
That fresh powder combined with the nice trees looks amazing
TJ’s style is so clean
!!! yes!
🙏🏼
@@BoardArchive really happy with my Burton FA i bought after your review 😎✌
Amplid has a top sheet coating against snow build-up for this season splitboards. It has a great name too, stratospheric top sheet 😂! Love the name. Just in case you don't want to spray around stuff.
On the safety data sheet for NeverWet section 6.2:
Do not allow to enter drainages or watercourses.
makeityours.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/NeverWet-Topcoat-gb.pdf
The two ingredients are acetone and petroleum. Do you really want petroleum products building up where you snowboard with your kids and might eventually get into waterways? Other comments on here saying they put WD-40 on their boards? Wow
I don't know how this isn't top comment. Cool experiment, but there are other factors to consider.
petroleum and acetone are just the solvents for the hydrophobic particles and they evaporate pretty fast during the drying process... so there shouldn't be any carry over to the environment
I would be much more concerned about the sheen of oil from vehicles after a rain running straight into a waterway. A spray on solvent evaporates into the atmosphere which is what you should really be concerned about, not some micro levels of petroleum that get filtered through vegetation and dirt on a mountain side.
They have the same warning on marine coatings for boats. Release of the product itself into the environment isn't the same thing as exposing a surface with the finished application to the environment.
Spraying is obviously not the same thing as dumping the liquid contents into the mountain side. Yes the finished product is more stable than the liquid/safety sheet form but just like marine coatings this will degrade over time and leech into the environment, the top sheet will get damaged, cracked etc and while a micro amount of this getting into the mountain side from one snowboard is no big deal year after year with more than one person they will add up over time eventually. Look at the xtc skiing and how they have banned floro wax, that did accumulate and has who knows what consequences for the the environment.
We can't be perfect but we need to think ahead and be more responsible if we want future generations to enjoy what we do.
Try it on bindings might prevent snow ice build up inside
The has been my problem for years now!! I sprayed my ski's with rainX and worked for a little while. I'll be trying that for sure! Thanks
Probably also help to prep the surface. Wipe it down with IPA ahead of the coating. I’ve contemplated this. Just using a ceramic coating designed for car exterior. Great vid!
I tried ipa wash then Seal & Shine paint sealant, ok but not as good as on vidéo.
okay but that snow hitting the camera transition was too smooth
Great video as always TJ love your snowboarding style mad smooth. I need to see more butter videos tho!
Thanks man! On it!
Have been wanting to upgrade my board but it’s still in great shape so this is what I will use once I’m done customizing it with some new paint!
I had some left over ceramic coating from doing my truck and put it on my top sheet of my boards
Never knew such a thing even existed! Excited to try this out. Sometimes i scrape my topsheet just because i want to see it! Realising it happens quite a lot...
It happens so much!
Great idea, crazy that it worked. Can we get a long term update a some point?
Give us a follow up video on how it held up throughout the season (including number of days ridden, etc.)!
Try a ceramic coating next. Little sneaky trick i use on my snowmobile. Probably keeps 50-70lbs or snow off places i dont want it. Use to use it on cars all the time, its amazing.
I did this for a snowboard project back in college 2012. Worked great
im wondering if ceramic wax coating for cars would do the same thing, and wouldn't cause discoloration
It’s the right product to use.
And would probably last longer, at least on the top.
I've always justed sprayed a hybrid ceramic wax in the top of my board to prevent snow from sticking.
such a helpful and good idea. always wanted to not have too much snow built up on the top sheet and stoked to try this come winter.
Sweet can’t believe it worked! Thank you for taking the time to show us the results!
Have you ever heard of the phantom waxless system? If so you should check it out and try it.
I’d like to check that out for sure, I wonder if it really works
Dude - thanks for the heads up about Phantom!
@@BoardArchive It works. Have it on all my boards
I have been researching the phantom glide application and the potential is huge. My only concern is that it may not work so hot on rails and boxes. Anyone have any experience with this? TJ should get a free promo application for a product review
@@pow_hnd for how long?
i use to use RainX in the 90's . It worked great. Has the cloudiness gone away , how long did it last ? Shoots🤘🏼
Awesome! Guess if I need it full time
I did the same with me jacket and snowboard pants at the start of this season and it works amazing!!
That pow run through the trees was SICK!!
honestly if you do an update video showing no after damage i might do it to all my board so i could never have and build up or ice bergs on my boards. hmmm actual i wonder what would happen if you put in on the foot bed of the bindings would you get build up???
I was nearly convinced until I saw the haze on the topsheet... not a bad idea though. Just picked up a used split, and Union Expedition 2.0's from my local shop. Here's to hoping the Catskills get some snow this winter! We've been getting skunked the past few years.
The haze actually went away almost completely after using it, hope you have a good season man!
Great video! I can't find the video with the never wet on the underside of the board... what happened?
My karakoram bindings cake up with snow all the time, what about spraying the base plates as well? No snow cake = no ice?
those runs look amazing! what a dream you're living! hopefully i can do some hikes like that in the future
That was a great day!
Any update on the condition of the board after the spray? Would you still recommend it? I have step-ons and I think this would be pretty beneficial
Sick! Manufacturers should ship boards with this finish pre-applied
I've used a ceramic coating that's mostly for cars in the past called cquartz. Works just the same but no haze. Application process is a tad different though. Worth the price to have no snow build up. Check it out.
That sounds like the next level! I’ll look into it thanks man
Do you think turtle wax ceramic coating would work? I use that on my car. I tried rainx last year and it didn’t work on my board lol. Maybe the ceramic coating would?
@@TaylorPhase ceramic coating should
how long does the effect last?
@@itshendo6475 any idea why rainx didn’t work but ceramic wax should?
i came for the weather test, but your footage has me hooked good sir!
Hi TJ cool trick,
I was wondering if you could do an episode where you tell/explain/show if there are differences between riding a split or a normal powder board down the hill. I am wondering how it would feel like to do presses in the pow with a split, never tried one.
Every snowboarding company that sees this: ...Races to produce their own hyperphobic coating
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I'd buy a hydrophobic board! That would be so sweet! I often do find myself scraping the snow build up off my board as it does add uneven weight.
This already exists in a few brands!
@@JayColingham brand names and models please I’ll check the out! :)))
Is that a snowboard/surf board. The bindings rotate?
Yea that’s amazing and thank you for the video. I’ll keep an eye out for the follow up video after the season. Would e nice to see how it holds up in the jump park over time
that board collection is wild!
🙏🏼
Amazing! They should make all products for snowboarding hydrophobic!
Wonder if an automotive ceramic coating would give similar results without the hazing.
Wonder if you can apply to bottom board and go faster since it resist the molecular drag from fluids...? More faster slopes! Rippin and flippin’ use a spare old board and see if I’m right!
Good idea! Works really well!
Great idea. I may try it with some RainX. I don't think we get Neverwet in the UK & I already have windscreen water repellent stuff.
Does it make the top sheet more slippery - if say you had it on a normal non-split board and didn't have a stomp pad?
If you already don't ride with a stomp pad you probably don't need to worry about it being any more slippery, it's all about your balance
I've heard these hydrophobic coatings are easy to rub off, so you have to be very careful when touching the board after application. I think the first ski test, where some snow stuck to the top, shows where you might have gripped the ski with your thumb. Great test, though.
Good tips bro, I hope see you again in whistler this season. I my splitboard setup almost ready to send and the avalanche course finally booked. Keep sharing the good tips bro, we appreciated it.
Maybe I should look into this. I tried putting rainx on the top of my board and it didn’t do crap lol. I really need something like this for mount hood and icy PNW frost always building up
It’s worth a shot I think
I used Rustoleum waterproofing on my snowboard top coat and it was tits working for Park City for 3 years always was money and cheap to reapply if needed.
The music choice is amazing nice video
Great video where was that where you were snowboarding that place looks awesome? Thanks for the info I will definitely try it.
You should keep just the one coated and see if it still works at the end of the season. Would be curious to see how long something like that lasts.
worked like a charm
Would love an update. Also, what would happen if you have stickers on the board? I don't want my Board Archive sticker to come off.
This was a cool experiment but would not recommend. It wears off way too fast, you only get 2-3 days out of it before its pretty much useless. Too much effort for the results and too wasteful with the chemicals
Dude I’ve been using rain-x for years on my snowboard, works great. This product does the same thing.
I'll be using this method. Science for the win!
Where did you film this video at that there’s already this much snow?? Awesome video and experiment!
I did not know a ski/snowboard existed thats totally dope!
awsome! will the edges from the splitboard scratch off the spray though? it would be great to have a long term review as soon as it can also be called one.
I been doin this with rainx windshield water repellent wipes for a while
You should try to coat the base of your snowboard bindings and see if it keeps that tight snow pack out
dude, dope idea. Full review of the new party platter ever? been waiting since the pow video ages ago.
I keep a small bottle of spray wax for emergencies in my gear bag (like my dudes forgetting to wax their setups before a big shred day 😒) and it works just like this as a top coat hydrophobic layer. Cheap and easy.
Hydrophoboic coating on the bindings (and bottom of the boots) would be even more useful! How many times have you gone to strap in after getting off a lift, and you can't close the straps because too much snow and ice is stuck between your boots and bindings?
I’m definitely doing this this to my daily driver! Nice work TJ!
There's a company that sells MountainFLOW Anti-Stick Spray on Amazon. I bought it for Japan and it did pretty well, but your method is sweet because you don't need to ever reapply!
Neat! im thinking this will be especially heplful in warmer conditions when the snow is HEAVY. Also those runs are so dreamy.
I wonder if performance of the ski and snowboard would improve if you sprayed it on the bottom too
Very interesting. I wonder how it works on top of Skuff Saver tape (by Tognar) I have it to protect from scratches
Excellent experiment! It looks like it's a great idea to implement, but it would be good if you had a follow-up on any aftereffects the NeverWet might have had on your topsheet.
Will follow up later in the season!
what was the name of the beats playing?
According to the Rustoleum NeverWet SDS the hydrophobic compound appears to be "Dimethyl silicone polymer". Now the wiki for that is under the umbrella term Polydimethylsiloxane. The environmental toxicity section says its not harmful to organisms but that's not all the ways in which it could be harmful. Also, different polymer lengths may have different issues. The polymers are not biodegradable and the smaller ones may be more toxic than the larger polymers (see SDS in third link). We don't know which polymer is in this product.
Sources:
www.rustoleum.com/MSDS/ENGLISH/274232.pdf
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydimethylsiloxane#Safety_and_environmental_considerations
www.gpcsilicones.com/products/silicone-fluids/dimethyl
World isn't gonna end because of a spray paint can
@@LeViIain Don't forget ozone lmao
@@LeViIain I meant CFCs
I think we are curious about whether it also has PFAS/PFOA in it.
I don't think this use case will end the world but toxic chemicals cause a myriad health issues and it is foolish not to consider them.
I don't think it has PFAS based on the SDS in the first link from my sources. I didn't check all the chemicals from the base coat (as top coat is only propellants and the silicone polymer). However the base coat does have polymeric Benzotriazole which may have adverse affects and does have the ability to get into the water supply (see below). But it may be bound up in the base coat and less likely to be released by abrasion.
From wiki: Benzotriazole is fairly water-soluble, not readily degradable and has a limited sorption tendency. Hence, it is only partly removed in wastewater treatment plants and a substantial fraction reaches surface water such as rivers and lakes.[12] It is considered to be of low toxicity and a low health hazard to humans although exhibiting some antiestrogenic properties.[
I have a board I love with old cracked lacquer. You think I could sand my lacquer down and put this stuff on it instead?
What do you think about coating your boots with NeverWet, too?
Could be a positive thing! I wonder if the boot flexing would be a problem over time tho
@@BoardArchive I'd imagine that is has some flex to it. It looks like NeverWet has a fabric specific version. I already have to reapply Revivex to keep my pants and jackets waterproof. NeverWet just looks like it takes waterproofing to the extreme!
just use boot wax. it's called nikwax here. it's got water repellent
Just shower in the stuff already xD