PLEASE READ! The padlock used in this video was for demonstration purposes ONLY. It was all I had on hand. I was showing you an idea to protect the shackle from bolt cutters, nothing more. I also made it very clear in the video as to the type of padlock you should be using. Besides using nuts and washers, you can also use a 3/4" OD heavy gauge compression spring cut into 2 pieces and slid over the shackle. Thanks for watching
While I get that it was a demo, it was also presented as, oh don’t go buy something expensive like this Abloy when you can just do this. The responses are understandable.
No it because people are dicks. Also I bet all those saying how easy a master lock it to pick have never picked a lock. So no the response are not understandable.
It’s still a true statement. Masterlocks, in general, are easy to pick. That specific one, is used as a trainer to get people’s hopes up. But again, the presentation is done as, don’t buy the better lock, just do this.
Yes they are a easier to pick then some(in less they have been hanging on a shed by the road for almost 10 years) . To me it did not come off that way. It was just a helpful hint. In truth all pad lock weak to some degree. LockPickingLawyer proves that even the top of the line pad locks.
Of course all padlocks are weak to some degree. And of course any lock full of dirt and rust is going to be difficult. That’s not the issue here. And if you are going by LPL then putting bolts on the shackle is pointless anyway since you can just ramset them. But again, don’t lose sight of the context here. The video presents a view of a “friend” about to buy an expensive lock and he says just put bolts on the shackle of a cheap one. And then comes back saying it’s just for demonstration. But the presentation implied differently so of course people are going to call it out.
Thanks for putting this together, in Romania we have hidden hinges on garage doors and a piece of steel pipe bend an soldered over the padlock. It's pretty hard to open the lock with the key with just one hand
@@ses5208 You have to insert your hand in the pipe to unlock the padlock. The bend in the pipe makes it impossible to insert tools . A simple cheap Chinese padlock is almost unbeatable. The pipe is welded on the door over the ring with 1/2 of it or less sticking outside the frame . I promise to make some photos of this sistem . It is not aesthetically pleasing but is very effective
@@electronicsNmore Thanks for your reply! I will be sure to cover it very well. Your solution is so simple and cost effective, it makes sense to invest in as much hardware as needed to get it right. Thanks!
This is such a great idea. People need to stop bringing up angle grinder in the comments. Less than 1% of thieves use a loud blaring angle grinder that sounds as loud as an alarm. Thieves don't want to bring attention to themselves. Even if one tries to use an angle grinder with a cutting blade, it is dangerous for him with the loose lock and the loose spinning nuts & washers. Too easy to break the thin cutting blade. This is about buying more time and making the thieves job much more difficult. Putting steel nuts on it will do the job in making it more difficult.
@@rexthespartan3025 ... Cutting torch is better option over angle grinder in this situation but cutting torch is still very loud (reach 100db which is similar to angle grinder and alarms), still large even the portable ones, need helmet, lots of blazing attention grabbing sparks, etc.. Angle grinder and cutting torches are far from discreet. Less than 1% use those tools because they get too much attention.
I 100% agree with your comment. I was so pissed about people mentioning the angle grinder crap that I wrote a "mini essay reply" to someone on here about it. Here it is below, it goes more in depth with what you already stated: Seriously are we going to mention every little technically that can defeat a lock? What next? "Oh this is a dumb tip because C4/rocket launcher/tank turret can still defeat the lock!!" Get real! Lets look at this from a realistic perspective. 95% of thieves are carrying around nothing more then a simple, small (meaning concealable) bolt cutter. Its impossible to cut the lock using those. The other 5% are using something better that would still make it impossible to cut through using this method. The ONLY time you have to worry is if you use this method in a place where the thief is a professional, knows there's something very valuable in the locked space, has time to come with an angle grinder, has time to work without the noise alerting someone and then MABYE this will defeat the lock. How often does that happen? Almost never! So this method will work for most people who aren't trying to protect super expensive stuff with a $30 method. And if you have something valuable enough and know that a thief will have time to work on the lock to get to your valuable; then you would be stupid to use this method when you can spend a bit of money to protect your investments. For example, I have a buddy of mine who has $50K+ in guns and ammo. He lives in a 160 acre property. So if he went on vacation someone would have days to work on any lock without anyone hearing whats going on. But obviously since he had money to blow over $50K on a hobby he has money to protect it properly. He literally has a "movie style" steel encased safe/panic room hidden inside the wall. The panel to input the code to open the safe is a book on a bookshelf that you tip to unlock the panel. Then you have 3 chances to input the code. If you get it wrong, the police are called. That's what you do when you have real valuable. For the rest of us this method works just fine. If a thief is equipped well enough to defeat this method while somehow getting inside my gated/24/7 guarded community and steals my $1.5K generator (during the very brief window after a hurricane when its running); I'd say he's earned it. So I will take my chances with this cheap method. I doubt any thief will think its worth the trouble.
@@snowman2473 It is about buying time and making it more difficult for thieves and thick, loosely, spinning nuts does that. When I use my DeWalt angle grinder, I am cutting/grinding objects that are fully braced... Not loosely spinning nuts that could easily damage the wheel blade. Soon someone will bring up plasma cutter over the angle grinder now because "lots of thieves" use that. I wouldn't use this lock and nuts over my kryptonite NY u-lock to lock up my expensive bike but this is fine for a backyard shed where theft is less likely.
You think spinning nuts or washers would do anything? You'd just cut at 90* to them and they'd come right off. If a grinder is involved you're screwed. Honestly though, they'd probably just cut the chain, or the bike rack at that point.
@@gahbah274 Incorrect. You can't just vertically cut the nuts with a bolt cutter. Tough to get the correct angle and leverage vertically. Too difficult when bolt cutter blade is too wide to squeeze in and fit and plus case hardened nut in hex shape is an advantage. Round is easier to cut than hex. Most thieves use small bolt cutters. A combination masterlock on gym locker is quick snip with bolt cutter because the shackle is much weaker metal. If I am a thief with bolt cutters, I would never attack the nuts or the lock. I would simply attack the hasp latch which is the weakest part to cut due to being thin and weak metal. Your lock method is only good as your weakest link and that is the hasp. As for bike lock? Spend at least 10% on a bike lock on what your bike's worth. More if you are in high theft area. I wouldn't advise using this padlock and nuts simply because the weak picking of this lock. I wouldn't use this for my pretty expensive bikes. I use kryptonite NY standard u-lock or kryptonite NY noose chain lock. The percentage of bike thieves using portable angle grinders are like 0.0001%. Some do but the majority of them are using the basic tools. They don't want to use loud blaring spark flying power tools like angle grinders or plasma cutters.
Please tell me where in the video I said the lock used for this demonstration has pick resistant pin tumblers? LOL. The padlock used was IRRELEVANT, all that mattered was what I showed and said in the video. Schools are failing miserably.
I spent a considerable amount of money on padlocks to use with high security chain. This was to secure the ramps and spare tire on my trailer. Wished I had seen this video before spending all that money. I did however used your tip to help shroud the shackles on locks securing some storage sheds. I played around with a combinations of nuts, jam nuts, and washers until I had a tight fit. I used stainless steel hardware for the corrosion resistance. Thanks for a great tip.
it's funny how Master Lock has videos and commercials about somebody shooting the padlock with a handgun and it doesn't open but what they don't show you is a twelve-year-old kid with a couple of paper clips picking it open. too funny. anything but master.!!!
Brilliant idea! I can't use a lock with a shackle guard for my setups but this gives me the flexibility to vary the amount of washers and nuts for my applications and gives me the protection I've been looking for. Thank you!
As bolt cutters (especially dual fulcrum) make more force with the jaws almost closed, this should help get less leverage around them. It would also help if the washers are too big for bolt cutter jaws to grip.
That's pretty clever for a basic lock. I lost a key to one that was marked "hardened". Boy was it ever. I have bolt cutters with 24 inch long handles. I pushed so hard I gave my arms a charley horse and it barely left a small mark on the lock. So that is worth the little extra money. I ended up grinding it off but I bet it took 15 minutes with a lot of sparks.
You needed a FBH, a fuckin big hammer hit on top of the body of the lock down wards , the puns all bend and fall apart and the lock opens and fulls apart ,
Jessee Long it has been taken by Antifa and used out of context.......just like most hate groups, they cherrypick everything cause they can't make their own. I work in law enforcement and I use this flag to support my brothers and sisters. You assume it is something negative when clearly it isnt.
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I have a question. What would prevent someone from just lifting the nuts or the bolts? I was hoping to see you try to lift them, but you didn’t. There appears to be enough play in the hardware to do this but not having tried it myself, I’m not sure. Thank you.
Thats becsuse he didnt have them locked to anything in the demo. Butt as he ecplained you would have to play around with the washer and nut combination with whatever your specific application is. Hope that helped clarify.
A high quality abus granite or abloy can be had for about 50-150 dollars. I own the abus 37rk/80, abloy 362 & medium duty abloy 340 [abloy 358 will be ordered soon. These locks are top of the line. And what these locks all have in common is hardened steel bodies and hardened steel plates and or hardened steel spinning 'wheels' for anti drilling. Not only that. The 358, 362, 37RK/80 all have "top load" cores. This means an attacker will have to DRILL from the top of the body through the shackle to drop the core. The bottom of these padlocks have beefy steel protection preventing further drill exploitation. The anti drill pins/disks/washers will torque the drill bit and cause the bit to bind or snap while maintaining core security [not impossible to drill them out though.] Add a proper hasp or shackle guard you will find it easier to just cut a hole through the wall or door itself. So what I like to do is make the lock look like they might he able to get in by destroying the lock but really they can't and waste their time
Great idea got three cut resistant pad locks in my shop and storage areas all three will golet this treatment. TY. ( hoing to be a pain in the a__ every day to open and lock but worth it😂😅
Hey Mr Fish. :-) The hasp is another story. Usually people don't bother with the hasp if they carry a bolt cutter. They're only looking to cut shackles.
Thieves will go for the weakest point in the security system, if padlock can not be cut easily they will cut the hasp or go for the hinges or cut the wood or metal door around the hasp or hinges. The padlock is only the most visible part and don’t use Chinese locks or master locks as they have too many security flaws compared to high security lock manufacturers. A lot of criminals laugh at master locks as most master locks are too easy to get into without bolt cutters and are not pick resistant and badly designed.
I pick locks for a hobby. could pick it quickly as well as the abloy. I think anything you do to try to secure against attack is a good idea. Not everyone can pick a lock and most people don't have a gas axe in their pocket. Almost all security is to keep honest people out. Keep sharing your ideas. I would use a boron shackle.
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@@frankmontez6853 They boron are better than regular "Hardened" steel. but sometimes it is overhardened and the metal can be brittle and more like glass when pressure applied and break/shatter instead of just cut. Molybdenum or Moly may possibly be better. Some professionals consider it the premium. I have it for my padlock bike shackle 11mm. if you wonder is Toledo Brand padlock and *Round body black super duty.
To all the people saying this won't work, why not make your own video showing you defeating it with your bolt cutters? From what I've seen most hoods use brute force attacks. Probably far more lock picker hobbyists than criminals.
I used to use this method on my locker at 24 hour fitness, but after seeing countless videos of how poorly made most masterlocks are, i purchased an 88/50 Abus lock. It's unpickable, can't be shimmed open, and pretty much bolt-cutter proof. I know..some will say any lock can be picked or cut. But the fact is very few theives have the skill or time to pick this one, and pulling out a 5' long pair of bolt cutters in the locker room will draw lots of unwanted attention.
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@@JA-rn5qv true, but it was picked by a pro. In a gym locker room no thief is going to spend time attempting to pick a difficult lock since it will significantly increase their chance of getting caught.
I did that with a Masterlock and the bold cutter used went right thru the nuts and shackle. If it's worth protecting a better lock is the right way to go.
joblessalex Only one side you need to remove the nuts or washers. No big deal. Keep in mind, you can also use a heavy gauge expansion spring over the shackle, that works really good. Always a price to pay for protection.
It's the little things that make the biggest impact. I haven't been on a plane for well over a decade (not wanting my sac fondled) but would do anything to keep those TSAs from getting in luggage. It's rumored they'll do anything to pick or destroy a lock just to open a case ... to find nothing. Heck, with lock reinforcing ideas like yours I'd be willing to mess with those agents. Make them feel useful. Toy cap gun hidden among (old) clothes in a metal case, welded shut all around? >:)
Although your Macgyver wizardry has inspired me to think... I think i might got a better idier. How about using 2 opposing bicycle neck (goose stem wedge-locks) on each side of the shackle with the 90 degree slide faces facing each other? They are available, already got the necessary holes and would increase the surface area of the shroud without also adding dinky gaps from multiple unshapely pieces. They could be drilled to size easily and lifted to tight tolerances with washers more so than using bolts. Burglars don't use cut-off disk tools because they are too loud and it takes too long but the washers and bolts idea is totally disk proof on the cheaps. The best things in life are the cheapest.
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I would say that adding nuts to the shackle is a great deterrent, until you mentioned about using pick resistant locks, then I noticed you were demonstrating on a Master Lock! LOL
What if they freeze the lock with a can of "liquid air" keyboard cleaner and strike the lock with a hammer and fracture the shackle, or the weakest internal part to cause failure?
@@clindonjames8240 You'd probably need to go through a dozen or so cans of air, which make a lot of noise, are very unpleasant for the user, and consume a lot of time. Not to mention sledgehammering it afterwords isn't exactly inconspicuous. I'm just saying there are numerous, easier ways than novelty. >__>
interesting idea for a general extra precaution when it comes to garden security. This could be very useful for a little additional "boost". However, as someone said - these would be easy to be "gotten through" on more preplanned burglaries. Great video though!
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You can use anything strong enough and wide enough to make it extremely difficult or impossible for the bolt cutter jaws to cut the shackle. Thanks for watching!
Great idea. Just have to make sure to make adjustments based on what needs to be secured. This demo leaves very little space for the object that has to be locked up. 😂
If you have expensive stuff to protect, get a good lock like an Abus Granit or Abloy Steel Lock. Your solution does solve the cheap Master Lock problem.
Although this method can work on an emergency if someone is going out to buy a lock like you suggest with reasonable pick resistance and steel locking balls then most locks that meet this criteria will have shrouded shackle versions for onlu a little extra cost and a lot less effort .
electronicsNmore yes I guessed that as your advice on the security features of a lock people should look for does not correspond with a master lock. The point I was making is if someone is going to buy a padlock that has the security features you state then a product in this range would usually have shrouded versions available for only a few $ more and would be a lot easier to use than this.
As long as you don't leave big spaces between the large washers or nuts, the cutting jaws won't be able to fit in-between to cut or pry open the padlock. Thanks for watching!
Battery angle grinders are the new thing. We have mini store complex. Had units cut into this way. Circle locks cut off. Making a box to go over lock so cut wheel cant reach lock now.
There will always be ways. 25 years ago I cut padlocks using a cut-off wheel with my Dremel. This method, when done properly, should prevent all bolt cutter attacks.
not really because it doesn't take a very large diameter before the shorter bolt cutters will no longer open wide enough to get around it enough to grip.
Aluminum is one of the worst materials to cut through with a angle grinder or even a hack saw. The aluminum will gum up the blade or disc very fast. If they're able to finally cut through the Aluminum, the disc will be so gunked up it will not be able to cut through the hardened steel shackle. Also, it will take forever for the disc to cut through the Aluminum, and will make so much noise, they will most likely leave or look for a easier target.
Yep. Inexpensive, higher power, lithium battery angle grinders with a cutting wheel are a total game changer for mechanical security devices. They render virtually all locks, chains, bolts and shackles pretty much moot. You can make a box to go over the lock, but the cutting wheel will just cut that off, too... But I think that falls into the category of "there's no stopping the dedicated and equipped thief, only slowing him down". If there are countermeasures that can be taken to harden the target against crackheads or butthead kids, it's worth it. That alone might make half of all thieves move on to a softer target... and if adding a better lock improves my chances by 50%, I'll take it.
I would like to see a demo of these two setups attacked with both a bolt cutters and angle grinder. My suspicion is the bolt cutters blades will be to large to get in between the nuts or washers, but the angle grinder will fit easily between them and make short work of the shackle.
Let’s forget that pad”lock” and think about the nuts. These are not very hard even if they are of the most usual grade 8. You need much much harder and more expensive and not so easy to find grade 12 nuts or if you don’t find them, grade 10. I don’t know if there are washers of that grade easily available but washers are not as easy to break than nuts. Nut cracker (tool) is probably one some bike thieves have and that cuts grade 8 nut really easily. But anyway nice idea and it looks hard to break which helps a lot.
Good padlocks are expensive but I think it's worth it if it's for something expensive. I buy used ones off eBay. I got a abus granit few years ago fairly cheap. I do love this idea though. Sometimes you have to use what you got.
@@electronicsNmore the point is,,, nuts and washers are soft. They are not meant to withstand bolt cutters. They are in no way a replacement for a hardened shackle guard.
Seeing that would make me want to attack the body of the lock with a battery angle grinder with a stainless steel cut off wheel, were the shackle locks into the body of the lock. just a thought
Good idea but Master is not a good lock like others said...I always liked the old Yale....mostly I use is Abus disc lock......Great idea though..Thumbs up..
Pretty sure a quality set of cutters would break the nuts. The washers might bind. A grinder at a 90* angle to the washers or nuts would hack them off pretty quick. But a grinder would also quickly cut a chain, or the bike rack...
@@electronicsNmore I see, so after the thick nuts are in place, the spacers/washers need to be added so that it is absolutely packed when in place, so less than maybe 1mm gap is seen? a bit fiddly, but definitely seems to be worth it.
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I believe with vice grips clamped tight to immobilize the nuts and washers, I could get that lock open in around 1 minute using a battery powered grinder. I wish it wasn't so easy to do but it's the world we live in☹️
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Great idea!! The best we can hope for in padlock, chains, cables, etc. security is to make it not worthwhile or to easy for the easy opportunity thief. Somebody that is serious given enough time can defeat any locks or security measures if they are determined to get your stuff.
If you are going to try this, at least use hardened nuts and washers (e.g. grade 8). Standard nuts and washers are so soft that a good set of bolt cutters are going to either bend them and push them out of the way in the case of the washers, or cut through them like butter, in the case of the nuts. The shrouds on a shrouded lock are hardened steel for this reason, otherwise you could just use bigger bolt cutters, and cut through the shroud. And, as far as angle grinders go, there's not much you can do. They're going to be bright, loud, and obvious, which deters some people from using them, but if they decide to use them, they're going to cut through your lock, and whatever protection you've added. But, they'd also cut through a $100 shrouded lock.
Good concept but one of the worst padlock choices for "pick resistance". This idea also limits you to using a hasp instead of a chain. Bigger and more expensive is a good start. Avoid Master Locks completely! How much are your valuables really worth to you? If you dont spend up, you get what you pay for. Battery grinders will cut through anything regardless but multiple good locks plus gates, fences, cameras alarms, dogs, security guards, lights, shotgun, etc etc etc is what one should also consider....also insurance. Have a nice day!🍺✌😊
I think the thieves always find a way in. I had a bike stored in the bomb shelter during winter, behind an extremely heavy door and a huge padlock. But still, someone found a way in and got it. Without actually breaking anything.
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Most thieves don't know how pick locks but a simple hammer will bust a lock open. I know bc my mother has lost every key to her gate and I can now open most masterlock with one swing of my hammer.
It is a valid point that a bolt cutter attack is much quieter than a power tool attack. Thus this tip is valuable if it prevent bolt cutters. You can keep going with attack methods given access to any tool in the world. Question is, will using power tools, explosives, whatever get you caught? A better and quite attack compared to a grinder would be freezing the lock and hitting it with a hammer. My house is just particle board skin and drywall on 24" center 2 x 4's. If you know that you are much better off cutting a hole through the wall than wasting time attacking the hardened door. Security methodology is about time. Although the lock is one small part of the entire plan, it still adds time to the attack allowing other components to notified, document and catch or stop a thief. You put valuable stuff in behind layers of protection and use deception. Big ass safe that's empty with a hidden spot for really good stuff and a siren blasting to create urgency would be some deception.
This doesn't protect the hasp the lock is locked onto. Unless you have a protected hasp the idea is not useful. A protected hasp usually has ears that extend down over the lock so you would not be able to get any nuts on the lock to fit up into it. You would not need the nuts. At least if you had the nuts on the lock it would still be intact after the thief cut the hasp and took your stuff!
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this is a joke. an angle grinder would slice that off instantly, with or without washers, nuts, or anything else. i love your videos, but this one wont be stopping or deterring much of anything
yes+ he said angle grinder which would also get in there, but going back to the bolt cutters, is they are large enough to break trough a padlock they should be large enough to get through a nut, show it in action with a pair of 4' bolt cutters
Bolt cutters will just cut the nuts or washers anyway. With some locks the body of the lock can be cut if they could not get to the shackle for some reason. A lot of thieves are problem solvers and have prior experience even with shrouded shackles.
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PLEASE READ!
The padlock used in this video was for demonstration purposes ONLY. It was all I had on hand. I was showing you an idea to protect the shackle from bolt cutters, nothing more. I also made it very clear in the video as to the type of padlock you should be using. Besides using nuts and washers, you can also use a 3/4" OD heavy gauge compression spring cut into 2 pieces and slid over the shackle.
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While I get that it was a demo, it was also presented as, oh don’t go buy something expensive like this Abloy when you can just do this. The responses are understandable.
No it because people are dicks. Also I bet all those saying how easy a master lock it to pick have never picked a lock. So no the response are not understandable.
It’s still a true statement. Masterlocks, in general, are easy to pick. That specific one, is used as a trainer to get people’s hopes up.
But again, the presentation is done as, don’t buy the better lock, just do this.
Yes they are a easier to pick then some(in less they have been hanging on a shed by the road for almost 10 years) . To me it did not come off that way. It was just a helpful hint. In truth all pad lock weak to some degree. LockPickingLawyer proves that even the top of the line pad locks.
Of course all padlocks are weak to some degree. And of course any lock full of dirt and rust is going to be difficult. That’s not the issue here. And if you are going by LPL then putting bolts on the shackle is pointless anyway since you can just ramset them.
But again, don’t lose sight of the context here. The video presents a view of a “friend” about to buy an expensive lock and he says just put bolts on the shackle of a cheap one. And then comes back saying it’s just for demonstration. But the presentation implied differently so of course people are going to call it out.
Thanks for putting this together, in Romania we have hidden hinges on garage doors and a piece of steel pipe bend an soldered over the padlock. It's pretty hard to open the lock with the key with just one hand
That pipe over the lock sounds interesting, maybe you can link to a video or a photo of it?
@@ses5208 You have to insert your hand in the pipe to unlock the padlock. The bend in the pipe makes it impossible to insert tools . A simple cheap Chinese padlock is almost unbeatable. The pipe is welded on the door over the ring with 1/2 of it or less sticking outside the frame . I promise to make some photos of this sistem . It is not aesthetically pleasing but is very effective
@@urzicatu Thanks, looking forward to some photos or a video of this - sounds effective
The door in the middle, the video is called Brake the padlock if you are able
A LOCK keeps an honest man 'honest' and SLOWS down a thief, some more than others, some less.
„This is how it looks like with nuts only on it“...I feel like an idiot laughing on this.
Great video as always, thanks for the great tip!
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Thank you, we have had trouble with repeated vandalism, and this was just what I needed!
Make sure you did a good job covering the shackle. Thanks for watching!
@@electronicsNmore Thanks for your reply! I will be sure to cover it very well. Your solution is so simple and cost effective, it makes sense to invest in as much hardware as needed to get it right. Thanks!
This is such a great idea. People need to stop bringing up angle grinder in the comments. Less than 1% of thieves use a loud blaring angle grinder that sounds as loud as an alarm. Thieves don't want to bring attention to themselves. Even if one tries to use an angle grinder with a cutting blade, it is dangerous for him with the loose lock and the loose spinning nuts & washers. Too easy to break the thin cutting blade. This is about buying more time and making the thieves job much more difficult. Putting steel nuts on it will do the job in making it more difficult.
@@rexthespartan3025 ... Cutting torch is better option over angle grinder in this situation but cutting torch is still very loud (reach 100db which is similar to angle grinder and alarms), still large even the portable ones, need helmet, lots of blazing attention grabbing sparks, etc.. Angle grinder and cutting torches are far from discreet. Less than 1% use those tools because they get too much attention.
I 100% agree with your comment. I was so pissed about people mentioning the angle grinder crap that I wrote a "mini essay reply" to someone on here about it. Here it is below, it goes more in depth with what you already stated:
Seriously are we going to mention every little technically that can defeat a lock? What next? "Oh this is a dumb tip because C4/rocket launcher/tank turret can still defeat the lock!!" Get real! Lets look at this from a realistic perspective. 95% of thieves are carrying around nothing more then a simple, small (meaning concealable) bolt cutter. Its impossible to cut the lock using those. The other 5% are using something better that would still make it impossible to cut through using this method. The ONLY time you have to worry is if you use this method in a place where the thief is a professional, knows there's something very valuable in the locked space, has time to come with an angle grinder, has time to work without the noise alerting someone and then MABYE this will defeat the lock. How often does that happen? Almost never! So this method will work for most people who aren't trying to protect super expensive stuff with a $30 method.
And if you have something valuable enough and know that a thief will have time to work on the lock to get to your valuable; then you would be stupid to use this method when you can spend a bit of money to protect your investments. For example, I have a buddy of mine who has $50K+ in guns and ammo. He lives in a 160 acre property. So if he went on vacation someone would have days to work on any lock without anyone hearing whats going on. But obviously since he had money to blow over $50K on a hobby he has money to protect it properly. He literally has a "movie style" steel encased safe/panic room hidden inside the wall. The panel to input the code to open the safe is a book on a bookshelf that you tip to unlock the panel. Then you have 3 chances to input the code. If you get it wrong, the police are called. That's what you do when you have real valuable.
For the rest of us this method works just fine. If a thief is equipped well enough to defeat this method while somehow getting inside my gated/24/7 guarded community and steals my $1.5K generator (during the very brief window after a hurricane when its running); I'd say he's earned it. So I will take my chances with this cheap method. I doubt any thief will think its worth the trouble.
@@snowman2473 It is about buying time and making it more difficult for thieves and thick, loosely, spinning nuts does that. When I use my DeWalt angle grinder, I am cutting/grinding objects that are fully braced... Not loosely spinning nuts that could easily damage the wheel blade. Soon someone will bring up plasma cutter over the angle grinder now because "lots of thieves" use that. I wouldn't use this lock and nuts over my kryptonite NY u-lock to lock up my expensive bike but this is fine for a backyard shed where theft is less likely.
You think spinning nuts or washers would do anything? You'd just cut at 90* to them and they'd come right off. If a grinder is involved you're screwed. Honestly though, they'd probably just cut the chain, or the bike rack at that point.
@@gahbah274 Incorrect. You can't just vertically cut the nuts with a bolt cutter. Tough to get the correct angle and leverage vertically. Too difficult when bolt cutter blade is too wide to squeeze in and fit and plus case hardened nut in hex shape is an advantage. Round is easier to cut than hex. Most thieves use small bolt cutters. A combination masterlock on gym locker is quick snip with bolt cutter because the shackle is much weaker metal. If I am a thief with bolt cutters, I would never attack the nuts or the lock. I would simply attack the hasp latch which is the weakest part to cut due to being thin and weak metal. Your lock method is only good as your weakest link and that is the hasp. As for bike lock? Spend at least 10% on a bike lock on what your bike's worth. More if you are in high theft area. I wouldn't advise using this padlock and nuts simply because the weak picking of this lock. I wouldn't use this for my pretty expensive bikes. I use kryptonite NY standard u-lock or kryptonite NY noose chain lock. The percentage of bike thieves using portable angle grinders are like 0.0001%. Some do but the majority of them are using the basic tools. They don't want to use loud blaring spark flying power tools like angle grinders or plasma cutters.
"Pick resistant pin tumblers" *points at a Master lock* LOL, thanks for making my day :D
Please tell me where in the video I said the lock used for this demonstration has pick resistant pin tumblers? LOL. The padlock used was IRRELEVANT, all that mattered was what I showed and said in the video. Schools are failing miserably.
Wasn't laughing at you mate, the situation just was hilarious.
Awesome video! Never heard of this in my 45 years. I'll be adding these to a few of my more important pad locks..Thank you!
Excellent video. More important and practical than 99% of related padlock videos out there. Thank you, electronicsNmore.
I spent a considerable amount of money on padlocks to use with high security chain. This was to secure the ramps and spare tire on my trailer. Wished I had seen this video before spending all that money. I did however used your tip to help shroud the shackles on locks securing some storage sheds. I played around with a combinations of nuts, jam nuts, and washers until I had a tight fit. I used stainless steel hardware for the corrosion resistance. Thanks for a great tip.
I never thought of that great idea.
Love you deeply and God bless you. You save me a lot of money for buying those so call anti bolt cutter lock hahaha
it's funny how Master Lock has videos and commercials about somebody shooting the padlock with a handgun and it doesn't open but what they don't show you is a twelve-year-old kid with a couple of paper clips picking it open. too funny. anything but master.!!!
I'll bet I could pick a Master Lock.
I have a video of my 3 year old picking one
Parent of the year...
lol
@@sissymarylen15741a lmao
Brilliant idea! I can't use a lock with a shackle guard for my setups but this gives me the flexibility to vary the amount of washers and nuts for my applications and gives me the protection I've been looking for. Thank you!
As bolt cutters (especially dual fulcrum) make more force with the jaws almost closed, this should help get less leverage around them. It would also help if the washers are too big for bolt cutter jaws to grip.
That's pretty clever for a basic lock.
I lost a key to one that was marked "hardened". Boy was it ever.
I have bolt cutters with 24 inch long handles. I pushed so hard I gave my arms a charley horse and it barely left a small mark on the lock. So that is worth the little extra money.
I ended up grinding it off but I bet it took 15 minutes with a lot of sparks.
You needed a FBH, a fuckin big hammer hit on top of the body of the lock down wards , the puns all bend and fall apart and the lock opens and fulls apart ,
Too bad masterlock is the easiest to pick.....
rugergirl79 I agree.
rugergirl79 The lock used in this video was irrelevant. I was showing the idea.
electronicsNmore oh it's a good idea, I just woIdnt use a masterlock. I like your vid!😊
rugergirl79 how's that gang sign of a flag you're supporting
Jessee Long it has been taken by Antifa and used out of context.......just like most hate groups, they cherrypick everything cause they can't make their own. I work in law enforcement and I use this flag to support my brothers and sisters. You assume it is something negative when clearly it isnt.
This is a very good video, I'm fed up with those criminal encouraging bolt cutting videos.
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I have a question. What would prevent someone from just lifting the nuts or the bolts? I was hoping to see you try to lift them, but you didn’t. There appears to be enough play in the hardware to do this but not having tried it myself, I’m not sure. Thank you.
Thats becsuse he didnt have them locked to anything in the demo. Butt as he ecplained you would have to play around with the washer and nut combination with whatever your specific application is. Hope that helped clarify.
A high quality abus granite or abloy can be had for about 50-150 dollars. I own the abus 37rk/80, abloy 362 & medium duty abloy 340 [abloy 358 will be ordered soon. These locks are top of the line. And what these locks all have in common is hardened steel bodies and hardened steel plates and or hardened steel spinning 'wheels' for anti drilling. Not only that. The 358, 362, 37RK/80 all have "top load" cores. This means an attacker will have to DRILL from the top of the body through the shackle to drop the core. The bottom of these padlocks have beefy steel protection preventing further drill exploitation. The anti drill pins/disks/washers will torque the drill bit and cause the bit to bind or snap while maintaining core security [not impossible to drill them out though.] Add a proper hasp or shackle guard you will find it easier to just cut a hole through the wall or door itself. So what I like to do is make the lock look like they might he able to get in by destroying the lock but really they can't and waste their time
I wish I would have known that before my storage unit was broke into and 30k worth of tools and equiptment was stolen
cody cheney Wow, that sucks...
cody cheney maybe you should have invested into a better lock
how's it feel knowing if you had spent less than 1% of the value of that stuff on a proper lock it probably wouldn't have happened
cody cheney it might have been in inside job and that sucks
fortunately i am not commenting on your neighbor, but the original poster who implied his storage unit was broken into with a pair of bolt cutters.
Great idea got three cut resistant pad locks in my shop and storage areas all three will golet this treatment. TY. ( hoing to be a pain in the a__ every day to open and lock but worth it😂😅
Wow that's a really great idea. Wish I would have thought of that. It makes perfect sense. What about for the hasp itself?
Hey Mr Fish. :-) The hasp is another story. Usually people don't bother with the hasp if they carry a bolt cutter. They're only looking to cut shackles.
Thieves will go for the weakest point in the security system, if padlock can not be cut easily they will cut the hasp or go for the hinges or cut the wood or metal door around the hasp or hinges.
The padlock is only the most visible part and don’t use Chinese locks or master locks as they have too many security flaws compared to high security lock manufacturers.
A lot of criminals laugh at master locks as most master locks are too easy to get into without bolt cutters and are not pick resistant and badly designed.
This is genius, even doing it on my little abloy 342 just for precaution.
Brandon Perez Thanks for watching Brandon!
I pick locks for a hobby. could pick it quickly as well as the abloy. I think anything you do to try to secure against attack is a good idea. Not everyone can pick a lock and most people don't have a gas axe in their pocket. Almost all security is to keep honest people out. Keep sharing your ideas. I would use a boron shackle.
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Boron ones are super tough?
@@frankmontez6853 They boron are better than regular "Hardened" steel. but sometimes it is overhardened and the metal can be brittle and more like glass when pressure applied and break/shatter instead of just cut. Molybdenum or Moly may possibly be better. Some professionals consider it the premium. I have it for my padlock bike shackle 11mm. if you wonder is Toledo Brand padlock and *Round body black super duty.
I could drill that Key cylinder out in 2.2 seconds and then still whatever that you was trying to Secure what do you think about them apples ?
The lock used was irrelevant. You missed the point.
electronicsNmore lmao
To all the people saying this won't work, why not make your own video showing you defeating it with your bolt cutters?
From what I've seen most hoods use brute force attacks. Probably far more lock picker hobbyists than criminals.
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HelmutDoork Very true!
Not b old cutters ...an angle grinder will destroy it.
I used to use this method on my locker at 24 hour fitness, but after seeing countless videos of how poorly made most masterlocks are, i purchased an 88/50 Abus lock. It's unpickable, can't be shimmed open, and pretty much bolt-cutter proof. I know..some will say any lock can be picked or cut. But the fact is very few theives have the skill or time to pick this one, and pulling out a 5' long pair of bolt cutters in the locker room will draw lots of unwanted attention.
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lol You must go to gym decked out with Gucci, Prada, and Rolex. Or maybe you're just paranoid..
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@@JA-rn5qv true, but it was picked by a pro. In a gym locker room no thief is going to spend time attempting to pick a difficult lock since it will significantly increase their chance of getting caught.
Sooo , with these nuts and washers the thick tip of bolts cutters can’t even get pass to clamp on ??
I did that with a Masterlock and the bold cutter used went right thru the nuts and shackle. If it's worth protecting a better lock is the right way to go.
Larry 21603 Whoever protected the padlock did a lousy job.
But..... how do you put the lock on? You're gonna have to take those on and off every time you open the lock....
joblessalex Only one side you need to remove the nuts or washers. No big deal. Keep in mind, you can also use a heavy gauge expansion spring over the shackle, that works really good. Always a price to pay for protection.
electronicsNmore wish people would just behave
@@joblessalex not the world we live in unfortunately...
No shit sherlock.
I never would have thought of this thanks dude
As long as you lay the nuts/washers out properly, the end of the bolt cutter won't fit in-between. Thanks for watching!
It's the little things that make the biggest impact. I haven't been on a plane for well over a decade (not wanting my sac fondled) but would do anything to keep those TSAs from getting in luggage. It's rumored they'll do anything to pick or destroy a lock just to open a case ... to find nothing. Heck, with lock reinforcing ideas like yours I'd be willing to mess with those agents. Make them feel useful.
Toy cap gun hidden among (old) clothes in a metal case, welded shut all around? >:)
Although your Macgyver wizardry has inspired me to think... I think i might got a better idier. How about using 2 opposing bicycle neck (goose stem wedge-locks) on each side of the shackle with the 90 degree slide faces facing each other? They are available, already got the necessary holes and would increase the surface area of the shroud without also adding dinky gaps from multiple unshapely pieces. They could be drilled to size easily and lifted to tight tolerances with washers more so than using bolts. Burglars don't use cut-off disk tools because they are too loud and it takes too long but the washers and bolts idea is totally disk proof on the cheaps. The best things in life are the cheapest.
Great info and needed right now for me. Needed a good locking system for the trailer I'm going to build my tiny house on! Thanks a bunch
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Lela Arneson 3:16 that’s all you gotta worry about when I hit it from the back
Great tips! I will definitely be borrowing the ideas! Thanks!!
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Well thought 👌🏼easy cheap and affective ima try this but with a different lock Abus titalium 80ti/50 for shimmed protection
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I welded half of a door hinge to each sides of my padlock, creating my own shackle guards.
That works too. Thanks for watching!
Dear sir.... thank you..... just got rip off.... with this info never again
I don’t know if it would withstand my 42 inch bolt cutters though because it’ll cut right through a lot of stuff.
Man that's cool I never though about that! Thanks great video
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Have you, by chance, tested a "hardened through" combination lock with bolt cutters? If so, what brand do you think is the best?
I would say that adding nuts to the shackle is a great deterrent, until you mentioned about using pick resistant locks, then I noticed you were demonstrating on a Master Lock! LOL
Modern Leveller Yes, the padlock I used to demonstrate was irrelevant.
That's a good tip to avoid bolt cutters for sure
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What if they freeze the lock with a can of "liquid air" keyboard cleaner and strike the lock with a hammer and fracture the shackle, or the weakest internal part to cause failure?
The liquid would need to be much colder to make the steel brittle. -30 or -40 Deg F isn't cold enough.
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@@clindonjames8240 You'd probably need to go through a dozen or so cans of air, which make a lot of noise, are very unpleasant for the user, and consume a lot of time. Not to mention sledgehammering it afterwords isn't exactly inconspicuous.
I'm just saying there are numerous, easier ways than novelty. >__>
interesting idea for a general extra precaution when it comes to garden security. This could be very useful for a little additional "boost". However, as someone said - these would be easy to be "gotten through" on more preplanned burglaries.
Great video though!
The music in the beginning is great , I will make it my phone ringtone !
Glad you enjoyed it!
This should also defeat the two-wrench attack.
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And probably shims too.
Both methods?
How about use a hard material in place of steel nuts like Cobalt Chrome Nuts?
You can use anything strong enough and wide enough to make it extremely difficult or impossible for the bolt cutter jaws to cut the shackle. Thanks for watching!
Great idea. Just have to make sure to make adjustments based on what needs to be secured. This demo leaves very little space for the object that has to be locked up. 😂
If you have expensive stuff to protect, get a good lock like an Abus Granit or Abloy Steel Lock. Your solution does solve the cheap Master Lock problem.
Abloy...a great padlock.
Does this protect against c4,RPGs, anti-tank rifles,depth charges various,types of acids extremely,hot cool/temptress,lasers and other explosives
Yes, everything except Thermite. :-)
U forgot tank.
I would pick it. But I have seen this in use. Masterlock sells these with a shroud but if you go to the hardware store they wont have those.
Although this method can work on an emergency if someone is going out to buy a lock like you suggest with reasonable pick resistance and steel locking balls then most locks that meet this criteria will have shrouded shackle versions for onlu a little extra cost and a lot less effort .
The padlock used was for demonstration purposes ONLY. I was simply showing how to make any padlock into a "shrouded" type of padlock.
electronicsNmore yes I guessed that as your advice on the security features of a lock people should look for does not correspond with a master lock.
The point I was making is if someone is going to buy a padlock that has the security features you state then a product in this range would usually have shrouded versions available for only a few $ more and would be a lot easier to use than this.
haahahaha Balls
great idea!
i wonder if Wayne Winton would have a go at trying to cut into one of your modified locks? It might be an interesting channel collaboration.
As long as you don't leave big spaces between the large washers or nuts, the cutting jaws won't be able to fit in-between to cut or pry open the padlock. Thanks for watching!
Battery angle grinders are the new thing. We have mini store complex. Had units cut into this way. Circle locks cut off.
Making a box to go over lock so cut wheel cant reach lock now.
There will always be ways. 25 years ago I cut padlocks using a cut-off wheel with my Dremel. This method, when done properly, should prevent all bolt cutter attacks.
You'd have to use hardened steel nuts and washers because nuts are commonly fairly soft steel.
not really because it doesn't take a very large diameter before the shorter bolt cutters will no longer open wide enough to get around it enough to grip.
Aluminum is one of the worst materials to cut through with a angle grinder or even a hack saw. The aluminum will gum up the blade or disc very fast. If they're able to finally cut through the Aluminum, the disc will be so gunked up it will not be able to cut through the hardened steel shackle. Also, it will take forever for the disc to cut through the Aluminum, and will make so much noise, they will most likely leave or look for a easier target.
Yep. Inexpensive, higher power, lithium battery angle grinders with a cutting wheel are a total game changer for mechanical security devices. They render virtually all locks, chains, bolts and shackles pretty much moot. You can make a box to go over the lock, but the cutting wheel will just cut that off, too... But I think that falls into the category of "there's no stopping the dedicated and equipped thief, only slowing him down". If there are countermeasures that can be taken to harden the target against crackheads or butthead kids, it's worth it. That alone might make half of all thieves move on to a softer target... and if adding a better lock improves my chances by 50%, I'll take it.
I would like to see a demo of these two setups attacked with both a bolt cutters and angle grinder. My suspicion is the bolt cutters blades will be to large to get in between the nuts or washers, but the angle grinder will fit easily between them and make short work of the shackle.
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Let’s forget that pad”lock” and think about the nuts. These are not very hard even if they are of the most usual grade 8. You need much much harder and more expensive and not so easy to find grade 12 nuts or if you don’t find them, grade 10. I don’t know if there are washers of that grade easily available but washers are not as easy to break than nuts. Nut cracker (tool) is probably one some bike thieves have and that cuts grade 8 nut really easily. But anyway nice idea and it looks hard to break which helps a lot.
The shackle is probably just as hard as the nut cracker tool, so I don't think it would work. Thanks for watching!
A lot of triggered lock pickers watching this video! LOL!
Now, how can i lock a chain on that? Use a 1/8 size rope or chain?
You need to set it up with the correct size washers/nut so you still have room for the chain.
Good padlocks are expensive but I think it's worth it if it's for something expensive. I buy used ones off eBay. I got a abus granit few years ago fairly cheap. I do love this idea though. Sometimes you have to use what you got.
As long as you do a good job covering the shackle, the bolt cutter won't be able to cut the shackle. Thanks for watching!
using relatively soft pieces of metal with substantial gaps in between that a pair of bolt cutters can easily slip between. Yes
Don't use soft metal, and don't leave spaces big enough for the cutting jaws to squeeze into.
@@electronicsNmore the point is,,, nuts and washers are soft. They are not meant to withstand bolt cutters. They are in no way a replacement for a hardened shackle guard.
Really good idea!
Seeing that would make me want to attack the body of the lock with a battery angle grinder with a stainless steel cut off wheel, were the shackle locks into the body of the lock.
just a thought
Good idea but Master is not a good lock like others said...I always liked the old Yale....mostly I use is Abus disc lock......Great idea though..Thumbs up..
Thanks for watching Bill! The master was only used for demonstration purposes.
Pretty sure a quality set of cutters would break the nuts. The washers might bind. A grinder at a 90* angle to the washers or nuts would hack them off pretty quick. But a grinder would also quickly cut a chain, or the bike rack...
No one walks around with monster bolt cutters. :-)
My buddy did this but he had titanium nuts and no one tried cutting it then some one picked it and it was all over.
simple yet brilliant.
It helps, when done correctly. Thanks for watching!
@@electronicsNmore if not done correctly could the cutters instead of cutting, force /pop the lock open?
@@sbaxter4207 Yes! If the cutting blades can squeeze between, then they will act like a wedge.
@@electronicsNmore I see, so after the thick nuts are in place, the spacers/washers need to be added so that it is absolutely packed when in place, so less than maybe 1mm gap is seen? a bit fiddly, but definitely seems to be worth it.
you can add big bosh wheel motorcyle. bolt cutter can't put to cut because to big diameter.
Great vid i currently live in mexico and yesterday dey tried to cut my lock but since theres alot of dogs around they left
It happens all over the world. Thanks for watching!
We are going to use nuts to make thieves go nuts. Do, nuts.
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Let us not forget that even you as house owner if lost a key,you also fail to cut it so you gonna sleep outside too😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I believe with vice grips clamped tight to immobilize the nuts and washers, I could get that lock open in around 1 minute using a battery powered grinder. I wish it wasn't so easy to do but it's the world we live in☹️
But are you going to know to bring vice grips in addition to bolt cutters in the first place when out in the field looking for stuff to steal?
WOW, EXACTLY THE INFO I NEEDED, THANK U
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Good.
Amazing you were able to cram a 35 second video in to 5:35.
You know what's more amazing? The level of stupidity from a small number of viewers that I and others have to put up with. 😀
You don’t need a bolt cutter. What you need is a hammer to open!
Not if the lock uses locking balls.
Great idea!! The best we can hope for in padlock, chains, cables, etc. security is to make it not worthwhile or to easy for the easy opportunity thief. Somebody that is serious given enough time can defeat any locks or security measures if they are determined to get your stuff.
Thanks for watching!
Remember wordily materials are just on loan to all of us.
If you are going to try this, at least use hardened nuts and washers (e.g. grade 8). Standard nuts and washers are so soft that a good set of bolt cutters are going to either bend them and push them out of the way in the case of the washers, or cut through them like butter, in the case of the nuts. The shrouds on a shrouded lock are hardened steel for this reason, otherwise you could just use bigger bolt cutters, and cut through the shroud.
And, as far as angle grinders go, there's not much you can do. They're going to be bright, loud, and obvious, which deters some people from using them, but if they decide to use them, they're going to cut through your lock, and whatever protection you've added. But, they'd also cut through a $100 shrouded lock.
I showed you an excellent idea which works just fine as shown, if you want to modify that idea, then great. Thanks for watching
Apologies, I wasn't necessarily directing that at you, but at anyone who might be watching and using this idea to increase security.
Good concept but one of the worst padlock choices for "pick resistance". This idea also limits you to using a hasp instead of a chain. Bigger and more expensive is a good start. Avoid Master Locks completely! How much are your valuables really worth to you? If you dont spend up, you get what you pay for. Battery grinders will cut through anything regardless but multiple good locks plus gates, fences, cameras alarms, dogs, security guards, lights, shotgun, etc etc etc is what one should also consider....also insurance. Have a nice day!🍺✌😊
You would have to weld the washers together or the pressure of the bolt cutters wedge pushing through will break the lock open instead of cutting.
Not good against a Dremel or grinder or thermite pens/rods. But good advice
As long as nobody brings a nut splitter and socket spanner to remove the nuts or to cut the lock between the washers or cut the washers.
perhaps the opportunist thief will bring his oxy acetelene trolley too?
I am going to try this on a bike U lock.
I think the thieves always find a way in. I had a bike stored in the bomb shelter during winter, behind an extremely heavy door and a huge padlock. But still, someone found a way in and got it. Without actually breaking anything.
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Would give my crowbar great purchase!
Nope...
😂😂😂😂
Most thieves don't know how pick locks but a simple hammer will bust a lock open. I know bc my mother has lost every key to her gate and I can now open most masterlock with one swing of my hammer.
Simple action
Wouldn't I just grind the bolts/washers at a 90 degree angle (vertical)? It would just be an extra step.
You can also use 1/2" pieces of steel tubing over the shackle.
It is a valid point that a bolt cutter attack is much quieter than a power tool attack. Thus this tip is valuable if it prevent bolt cutters. You can keep going with attack methods given access to any tool in the world. Question is, will using power tools, explosives, whatever get you caught? A better and quite attack compared to a grinder would be freezing the lock and hitting it with a hammer. My house is just particle board skin and drywall on 24" center 2 x 4's. If you know that you are much better off cutting a hole through the wall than wasting time attacking the hardened door. Security methodology is about time. Although the lock is one small part of the entire plan, it still adds time to the attack allowing other components to notified, document and catch or stop a thief. You put valuable stuff in behind layers of protection and use deception. Big ass safe that's empty with a hidden spot for really good stuff and a siren blasting to create urgency would be some deception.
thanks sir
Most welcome
Portable/ grinder will do it....
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Yes, if the blade is very thin, the only problem is the noise. Smart criminals avoid noise. Thanks for watching!
Great protection of shackle, but I was taught to cut through the body of the lock with the bolt cutters, and there's no protection for that.
Cut the body? No way....too much trouble.
Those have gotta be some big cutters.
This doesn't protect the hasp the lock is locked onto. Unless you have a protected hasp the idea is not useful. A protected hasp usually has ears that extend down over the lock so you would not be able to get any nuts on the lock to fit up into it. You would not need the nuts. At least if you had the nuts on the lock it would still be intact after the thief cut the hasp and took your stuff!
True, so be sure to use a very thick hasp. Thanks for watching!
That's a damn good idea!
Brute4rce It works if done properly. Thanks for watching!
My bicycle was stolen last week thanks for the video I'll use it on my next bike
Where abouts do you lock it? I just wanna see how good your new lock is
interesting idea but with all those nuts and washers in there, the hasp must be awfully small so they'll cut that instead.
The purpose is to DETER criminals, and make their job much more difficult. Thanks for watching!
Thanks this was a good video
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this is a joke. an angle grinder would slice that off instantly, with or without washers, nuts, or anything else. i love your videos, but this one wont be stopping or deterring much of anything
Really? So you actually think you'll get a bolt cutter in there? LOL
yes+ he said angle grinder which would also get in there, but going back to the bolt cutters, is they are large enough to break trough a padlock they should be large enough to get through a nut, show it in action with a pair of 4' bolt cutters
ixfxi not only that but Master Lock happens to be one of the easiest locks in the world to pick there's nothing pick resistant about it
Ron Calabrese Where exactly in the video did I state that the padlock I was using for the demonstration was pick resistant?
transdimensionalist Jaw won't open wide enough. I don't upload tips/ideas just for the hell of it. If I tell you it works, then it works.
Bolt cutters will just cut the nuts or washers anyway. With some locks the body of the lock can be cut if they could not get to the shackle for some reason.
A lot of thieves are problem solvers and have prior experience even with shrouded shackles.
If you do it right, thieves will be deterred.