LockPickingLawyer. Thank you for all your very informative videos. I've especially enjoyed the videos on the gun locks you've reviewed. This and the gun lock videos has influenced me on purchasing an Abus Granite 37RK/80. Do you have any tips on where these might be purchased from a reputable company? Also are there any counterfeits to watch out for? Lastly have you seen these with longer shackles? Thanks again for the great videos.
Sorry eaglesteve, but I don't know where to get them. I have a few, but they have all be ebay purchases. There are similar LOOKING locks, but no fakes that I am aware of. As for long shackles, not on that model.
@@AL-lz6px there would have to be a part on the shipping container that is thin or small enough so the lock can fit around it, even 2cm hardened steel can be cut through with a angle grinder equipped with a good cutting disk
@@jacobgilman8189 if you do this during the day the sounds of gantry cranes and the slamming of containers will easily cover your sound up, but yes at night the security will be patrolling and the loudest sound will probably be coming from you.
1:15 "A very very pick resistant core that I would say is certainly beyond my current capabilities" *5 months later* [548] Abus Granit 37/80 (Abus Plus Core) Picked and Gutted
LPL is the perfect youtuber. Regular uploading, highly informative, fan interaction, entertaining, no bullshit. His videos waste absolutely no time. Everything you want, nothing you dont.
I imagine he has a spreadsheet that he can sort by brand or type or mechanism, etc., and he probably does enough preliminary preparation before the video starts to mention it, not just remembers them all. That would be insane. The dude's smart, but idk if he's _that_ smart.
@@aethrya I imagine it's like the episode of Frasier where he's taped all his shows and saved them, and knows each episode by number enough to describe what happened in each one
We used those Sargent & Greenleaf locks on a restricted area on an Air Force contract I used to work on; the guy lost the keys. We ended up cutting the door open with a demolition saw and replacing the door. We eventually recovered the keys and the lock was re-used. Those things are amazing.
@Queenfinger Yeah me too. I found it for $190 with a 4 foot 14mm Abus chain. Next year I'm getting it tho I don't have any bikes or gates to lock up, it's just for me, for enjoyment
@@LOUDsigh to be fair, most criminals aren't as skillful or as prepared as LPL to be able to pick it since LPL basically picks almost every lock on the planet in seconds
@@CuongNguyen-sw1eb To add to that, its much easier to pick a lock in the comfort of your own workstation when you can freely put the lock in any position. It's a completely different situation when its mounted and in use.
Good luck breaking into this man’s house. He’d be out there criticizing your form and giving you suggestions. After you broke in, he’d suggest a higher security option to himself.
In one of the videos, he shows a standard Kwikset he uses on his own house that he changed the pins so that if you tried to pick it, it would jamb and be inoperable.
A couple of days later he updates the video to say, oops I missed there is a flaw in the keyway in this lock can be bypassed. Stock in the company plummets.
Here's what you really want to know: prices, plus or minus. Abus 37RK/80 $125 Abloy 362 $200 Rotalok $350 - from the manufacturer, limited availability Sargent & Greenleaf 831 $300 used, I personally remember them being about $800 new. Assa Ruko 4-5 $350 ?? Couldn't find this exact lock, based on similar-ish ones Kasp 19070X $100 on Amazon, believe it or not Mul-t-lock C16 $200 Mul-t-lock e18h $220 out of stock... Hi-Shear LK1200 $225 used (would kind of like an NSN or FSN) Squire SS80CS $215 (edit Disclaimer: none of these prices reflect swapping out the cores with the wizard magic he put in them or that they can optionally be ordered with) Not too bad. The only crazy, crazy expensive one is the SGT&Greenleaf if you buy a new, current model (951C), it will set you back about $1500 I'm guessing this list took longer to compile than the video -.-
I just ordered a 362 with Protec2 for $130 new delivered from eBay with 2-keys. I also got a 342 with an unknown core and 3 keys, new, for $66 delivered. And the Stanley Grade-4 lock is $23 on Amazon (two-pack KA for ~$46).
I was an Aviation Ordnanceman in the Navy, and our Ready Service Lockers (RSL), where we stored all of our explosives, had those Sargent and Greenleaf 833 locks. I swear the keys looked like they were 4” in length and the locks themselves weighed a ton. Nice to see LPL recognize them!
I'm not sure if you've ever picked a lock before, but lock picking is a skill, some locks are extremely easy to pick. Others, I wouldn't personally be able to pick if my life depended on it, but I can pick most locks. This man can pick probably most locks, it's a talent that very few people have.
Was thinking about getting a modern version of the S&G 831 (951C). Unfortunately, it's a $2300 lock. I'd come back to find my bike standing there, sans lock and chain, with a note saying "Thanks for the nice lock!"
@@firstbloood1 You're correct Bill and that's _why_ they're so cheap on eBay. I've always received at least 2 keys with every Abloy I've bought off eBay, I had 3 keys with the 342 I bought (worth collecting too that baby is, like a miniature 362, kinda sexy) So just don't be a prize-pratt and lose your keys like prize-pratts do and you'll be fine fine fine. 100% agreed, you _will_ definitely be stuffed if you lose your keys to a locked Abloy, practically impossible to pick you'd need an angle grinder, plasma torch or oxy-acetylene torch to get the bugger off again!
@@egeirmakgulseven8945 he didn't open shit, get your words straight. He opened the old patent pending version. Nobody can touch the RK version of the ABUS Plus Core
As an airforce vet I can confirm we locked our bandcamp weirdos in broom closets with Hi-shear locks. When they're not playing instruments or doing parades they turn into cannibalistic frat boys so we hide them.
@@chowspecialYeah it cracked me up because it was his slipup but we actually had to do that once. We had some trainee color guard at my base get too rowdy drinking one saturday playing games and we legitimately locked them in a day room for about 4 hours lmfao
The rotalock i was about to say you could just slap a pipe wrench instead of a fork but then you showed the spinning ability.. Engineers are smarter than we think
You have to remember that most of these innovations weren't thought about by geniuses with a great capacity for prognostication. Instead, in all likelihood, what actually happened is that they tried to make the body square, then they were broken into through rotation. So they were forced to make the body rotate.
I maintained the S&G 831 series lock when I was in the US Navy. Those were damned fine locks. The "buildings" they secured were also very well protected by several other forms of security, one of note was a platoon of US Marines with M16's.
As a retired attorney, I find your videos SO REFRESHING despite the otherwise banal subject matter. Well spoken, pragmatic, thoughtful, analytical, and incisive -- unlike most other YT intellectual dwarfs who simply point a GoPro at themselves, and babble incessantly about subjects with little factual basis (aside from personal experience). All my best wishing you much success!
@@b_f_d_d You'll just find a gaping hole in the side of the container courtesy of the handy-dandy angle grinder, with the added bonus of a smaller hole where the expensive-looking lock once resided. 😇
I am an ex AO (Aviation Ordnanceman) from the USS Theodore Roosevelt where I was a mag rat (G3 Weapons Division) working in the ships weapons magazines. All our locks were the S&G 831’s so I am very familiar with seeing those things. Ours had the ceramic inserts to deter cutting. Nice to see them get some LPL love!
I would say that it is extreme precaution from this british company to send the padlock to the owner without the keys. This is new level of security. ;-)
I think their huge monstrosity was the Master Number 29. Actually a decent lock from what I hear. I think it has an interchangeable core, also. It was so good, in fact, that Master quit making it. I mean, they can't just go around making stuff that's actually worth a damn, right? That'd just be crazy!
Michael, the 29 is quite good, but not big enough for this list. The closest Master Lock ever had to a lock for this list is the 19, which was a very nice lock.
An EXCELLENT padlock between 100-200 ( 140 new.. Can be had cheaper used ), is an ABUS 83/55, it comes with either their new BiLock core or Abloy Protec 2. Very strong body, very pick resistant.
Its not only the lock the hasp on your door or chain must also be able to handle the same punishment . Whats the point of a huge nasty lock no one can open on a rusty hasp that falls of the door ? There is also very little hasp test or comparison online . Abloy factory test video ... its their own so take it with grain of salt ... still impressive. Its the smaller 350 model not the 362 and text is in finnish th-cam.com/video/QbrKS6wLdCA/w-d-xo.html
Hey Lpl, it been a few years since you did a review, was curious if you could possibly do a new updated list! Im sure not that much has changed but it would be nice to see what you would use to lock up your stuff with a padlock! Thanks
8:20 First thought in my head was "SERGEANT! I was informed that you play the Saxophone!" "Uhh yes sir, I do. Why'd you ask?" "Pull out the Hi-Shear LK1200. We have another one."
All fantastic padlocks featured here. I personally use an Abloy PL350 for locking up my motorcycle with a 12mm Peweg hardened chain. The PL350 is just a bit smaller than the PL362 and has a fully exposed shackle, but with all Protec core goodness intact. It's a lovely hunk of mechanical engineering. Very smooth to open and close.
Very cool video! Just a suggestion: would be very handy to get your thoughts the best value locks. E.g. "I have X to spend, what is the best commercial lock I can get for that money?". We see cheap stuff like Master lock getting humiliated across TH-cam, but it's difficult for the consumer to know what instead to opt for without having to go seriously high-end.
Alexander Heavens I had the same thought. although prices can vary, it would be great to have a similar list defined by lock price: Best locks under $50usd, best locks $50-100usd, etc.
LockPickingLawyer and another youtuber who does lock videos both have said the Stanley 60mm lock is VERY tough... it is $33. Where I live, people picking locks isn't the problem, its people prying, hitting or cutting them. This will stand up to most of that very well. From my research, you would need to jump up to a $100 lock to get a better lock than the Stanley. Here is the link: www.amazon.com/Stanley-Hardware-S828-160-Shrouded-Hardened/dp/B001V5IYT2
Matthew Trzcinski I locked up a massive gate (12' tall and 16' wide made from 3" square tubing and a 4x4 screen of 1/2" hardened drill rod for the mesh...) we used a super heavy duty chain with a pretty large American Lock w/a primus core in it mounted on the gate inside a shroud. When we were broken into, the people used a 8 wheel tractor the farmer left parked in a field up the road to snatch the gate off the hinges ( which were 1 inch hardened drill rod...) I said that to say this, get used to the fact you can't win them all, if someone wants in bad enough, they will probably get in unless less you have armed guards posted 24/7. You can deter, but they may still win.
Not at all. I assure you anyone using any of these locks for an actual purpose is protecting something very valuable. Take the military one, that’s designed to protect probably millions of dollars of munitions/ technology.
I would love to see update for this video. If I've understood correctly Abus Plus core is much much easier to pick than Abloy Protec core. How about the other locks and how do you see these today?
When you brought up that first military style lock I laughed immediately recognizing it. It brought up bad memories of cleaning weapons at the armory...
I remember the Sargent and Greenleaf being used on bunkers, including bunkers that contained items that were not either confirmed or denied. I also remember that hornets love to build in the hasp covers, thus the Spectracide was far more important than the keys!
I would have liked to have heard the price of each as you listed them. 1. $120 (Amazon, $85 used) 2. $275 + $31 shipping (Amazon) 3. $432 (direct from mfg) 4. $160 (used, eBay) 5. n/a 6. n/a (find a dealer) 7. $116 (Amazon) 8. $240 (direct from mfg) 9. $180 (mfg direct) 10. (arms room door - LOL) 11. $180 (shipping from UK would be brutal!)
Thank you for the great info and guidance.Very much appreciated.I am not interested in picking locks,I just want to protect my hard earned possessions. Thanks again
First time viewer and though I only stopped just to see what it was about, I liked it very much. Your presentation is very clear and informative. It never would have occurred to me that you could "accessorize" a lock by changing the core. New subscriber.
Very pleased with mine, been outside in terrible English weather for years and its still in perfect order and very shiny. Super hard too, dropped it onto rocks and concrete many times without any marks or scratches.
From lightest to heaviest: 10: Abus 37RK/80 (not yet picked) 09: Abloy 362 (not yet picked) 08: Rotalok (th-cam.com/video/CxRV-zLzHN4/w-d-xo.html) 07: Sargent & Greenleaf 831 (not yet picked) 06: Assa Ruko 4-5 (not yet picked) 05: Kasp 19070X (th-cam.com/video/h-w0kanxUWo/w-d-xo.html) 04: Mul-t-lock C16 (th-cam.com/video/NqBeDP4CPXs/w-d-xo.html) 03: Mul-t-lock e18h (th-cam.com/video/KGJBANYf6P8/w-d-xo.html) 02: Hi-Shear LK1200 (not yet picked) 01: Squire SS80CS (th-cam.com/video/h27t7elN5Qs/w-d-xo.html) Thanks to htomerif for the list text :) Whilst browsing I also found videos of these big(ish) locks that do not appear to be in the list above, but perhaps could have been. In no particular order: th-cam.com/video/vjbI_HN9IQU/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/5ldLzuZj-lQ/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/INa8fMw66PY/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/EXT7PEKaajo/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/8bkzv9tBXls/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/eOJc9OiRN5A/w-d-xo.html There are more, but I think these will do for now; some people might be interested in watching them. Awesome list of locks in the video - thanks VERY much for posting it! :)
Great locks, was expecting to see the Ingersoll impregnable here, but maybe it was one of the ones that just didn't make it on the list. Now for the really hard question... security aside, which is your favourite? I'm guessing the S&G?? :-)
Didn't know Sargent & Greenleaf were involved with padlocks. In the military, the S & G combination safe dial was routinely used on safes or vault doors to secure classified materials/equipment (at least in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s).
necropost, but those S&G padlocks used to secure most Army armsrooms, along with a remotely monitored alarm system. So it is that lock holding perhaps 100-150 ARs, pistols, grenade launchers, machine guns, etc. Although usually not much ammo beyond perhaps a mag or 2 for a guard when the alarm craps out.
The roto loc is the best shipping container lock around. I used to see them on railroad cars all the time and it never really dawned on me why they rotated. But if you have something worth protecting then this will do it
0:30 There also is the question of purpose, like the lock you're showing right now isn't really fit for closing chains, the shackle is too large to go through the average chain, and two links would be hard to have in there at the same time to close it.
@@makeshiftg6246 this post has been up for 6 months, and you are the only person to stop by and ask me if this is what I meant. I thank you for that, you beautiful person.
You have some very interesting locks,sir,and I have seen a majority that you have picked open,with some difficulty. Keep on picking,and and grinning. 😁
Congrats on 1m Subs! I'm sure it's only a matter of time since you're 3k away! Drop a community post saying how close you are. That always helps me quickly jump those humps!
I have cut some of the best locks ever made off of trailers at work because shippers would drop off trailers and not unlock the doors. A cordless grinder with a cut off wheel will make short work of any of them.
I've been looking around, no one has mentioned a plasma cutter. With a Milwaukee 12 A-hr battery or two and small canister of compressed air, you could probably make a fairly portable rig. I have a chain saw uses one of those batteries and it's amazing how much cutting you can do with it.
@@ivanf4023 How is that relevant? Have you ever tried to drive a chain saw to work? By your thinking, that would mean electric cars won't work. My point is about the energy storage in these batteries is really impressive and could likely run a plasma cutter long enough cut useful amounts of metal. It was just idle speculation about possibilities. And of course a chain saw can cut metal, just depends on thickness and hardness. You ever played with sodium? I think all of the guys on the left of the periodic table are not much harder to cut than maybe cold chocolate or maybe PET? Can't come up with quite the right example.. You could have a lot of [dangerous] fun with mercury.
LockPickingLawyer: What about the Laclede ? When I sought out Pewag security chain, I was directed to the Laclede "13 mm Lockdown Security Chain & Padlock kit." I don't know much about either that padlock or chain. Would love to hear your impressions or even see some videos where you test the padlock & chain. I obtained mine from a rigging supply co.
I'm not proud of my felonious past, 40-odd years ago. But I had a simple method that would get past nearly all padlock storage units, barns, sheds etc. I carried a six-foot steel bar, called a Johnson Bar by some, and I had modified the straight tip to have a very slight bend, about 10 degrees, 8 inches up. The thing weighed 50 pounds, but if I could get it into the shackle or behind the hasp, with a slight pull that lock was off. I once opened 30 storage units in half an hour. Which points out that, you can buy the strongest lock in the world but if what you are securing it to is weak (hasp or structure), you may as well leave it unlocked. In fact, I would bypass unlocked storage sheds, assuming nothing was in them of value. Some of the locks were expensive ones (for the 1970's), but became useless, still locked, as I broke the hasp bolt out of the weak aluminum door.
To rekey #6, step 1 is to shim the shackle. Step 2 is to push aside a decorative piece with a pick. Remaining steps are normal, but requiring a shim and a pick for routine work is quite a statement of confidence. The same lock is available in a cheaper brass version. Key retaining is just an option.
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At 7:30, I misspoke... the shackle is 18mm, not 18 inches!
You should do an inventory video of all your locks, picks, and other equipment! THAT would be cool to see
They designed this lock to lock military musicians was a great one too.
LockPickingLawyer. Thank you for all your very informative videos. I've especially enjoyed the videos on the gun locks you've reviewed. This and the gun lock videos has influenced me on purchasing an Abus Granite 37RK/80. Do you have any tips on where these might be purchased from a reputable company? Also are there any counterfeits to watch out for? Lastly have you seen these with longer shackles? Thanks again for the great videos.
Sorry eaglesteve, but I don't know where to get them. I have a few, but they have all be ebay purchases. There are similar LOOKING locks, but no fakes that I am aware of. As for long shackles, not on that model.
LockPickingLawyer . Thanks for the info and replying. Have a great day.
LPL: "It's above my current skill level"
Me: "That's all I need to know"
This video was 4 years ago
He did manage to do it a few years later
th-cam.com/video/FfFTNsowDvk/w-d-xo.html
@@wardrich months*
I wonder how much that's changed in 4 years though. he's gotten even better and more powerful
.....a torch enters the room
I agree, military musicians should be locked up at all times.
Definitely!
Aww beat me to it xd
God only knows what those bugle players will do to the innocent public if allowed to run free.
They are all buglers, after all!
Even the horn section. (runs)
Once locks get this beefy it is easier to just cut what ever they are attached to.
besteversaw exactly
Good luck trying to cut shipping containers.
@@AL-lz6px there would have to be a part on the shipping container that is thin or small enough so the lock can fit around it, even 2cm hardened steel can be cut through with a angle grinder equipped with a good cutting disk
@@Notjoker123 Except everyone and their mother in the port will hear you going at it. This'll work more than well enough until security can arrive.
@@jacobgilman8189 if you do this during the day the sounds of gantry cranes and the slamming of containers will easily cover your sound up, but yes at night the security will be patrolling and the loudest sound will probably be coming from you.
1:15 "A very very pick resistant core that I would say is certainly beyond my current capabilities"
*5 months later*
[548] Abus Granit 37/80 (Abus Plus Core) Picked and Gutted
Good to know he got it!
Only with his homemade tool though.
"...for locking up military musicians..."
My dad, a former military musician: "Can confirm. Those fuckers were a pain."
LPL is the perfect youtuber. Regular uploading, highly informative, fan interaction, entertaining, no bullshit. His videos waste absolutely no time. Everything you want, nothing you dont.
Sounds like a commercial
I have literally negative knowledge on locks but I watch his videos as if I'm able to relate to anything he's saying.
U don't see a youtuber who organizes videos by number everyday
And he’s not sponsored by any company (biased reviews)
This is what happens when someone with an actual ability opens a TH-cam channel
I’d like to think these videos aren’t scripted at all and this man has an encyclopedic knowledge of every video he’s ever made
I always thought he just categorized locks by video in which they appear.
I absolutely love it when he thinks a little and then spits out a specific video number.
I imagine he has a spreadsheet that he can sort by brand or type or mechanism, etc., and he probably does enough preliminary preparation before the video starts to mention it, not just remembers them all. That would be insane. The dude's smart, but idk if he's _that_ smart.
@@aethrya I imagine it's like the episode of Frasier where he's taped all his shows and saved them, and knows each episode by number enough to describe what happened in each one
@@aethryaI agree, but if anybody could know all that info, it's the LPL. He's a lock nerd, and I don't mean that in a bad way at all.
We used those Sargent & Greenleaf locks on a restricted area on an Air Force contract I used to work on; the guy lost the keys. We ended up cutting the door open with a demolition saw and replacing the door. We eventually recovered the keys and the lock was re-used. Those things are amazing.
you mean you didn't use the military grade masterlocks to protect your high value military assets? tsk tsk tsk
This is the epitome of "a door is as strong as the window next to it"
There weren't any windows, and the door had 1/4" steel plate on both sides. @@superfluous9726
"Certainly above my skill level.."
2.5 years has passed since then, and the bosnianbillanimade tool has been invented.
Wat.
Timothy Jackson “Bosnian Bill and I made tool”
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@@leewonjea7358 Thank you for providing the episode number!
Very much appreciated
It would still be A good security lock because no average person could create their own lock picker
Me at 10:00pm: Just one more video and then I’ll go to sleep.
Me at 3:00am: *Top 10 biggest and baddest padlocks*
How have we lived this long without this information?
Me to meehh allready 5am 0.o
So eerie how that is me tonight
@@simonpeterdebbarma wtf i watched your comment and this video 2 time at 5 am sleepless night. Whats wrong with me.
F. Me it's already 8.30am
Abus 27RK/80 with Abus Plus core.
LPL "Beyond my current abilities"
me: woah.
One year later - "YO I PICKED IT!"
Yeah when he said that, I was like thats the one.
Maximal Crazy do you know which video that is? I wanna see
@@ixflqr I believe it's this th-cam.com/video/FfFTNsowDvk/w-d-xo.html, though the model is 37/80 instead of 37rk/80 (rk stands for re-key)
@Queenfinger Yeah me too. I found it for $190 with a 4 foot 14mm Abus chain. Next year I'm getting it tho I don't have any bikes or gates to lock up, it's just for me, for enjoyment
Wow, the rotalock is really a nice little piece of engineering. They looked at the problem and really tried to solve it. I'm impressed.
Just thinking about trying to open it without the key pissed me off, that thing was designed to deter burglars
I was impresses til he said he picked it then made a key
@@LOUDsigh to be fair, most criminals aren't as skillful or as prepared as LPL to be able to pick it since LPL basically picks almost every lock on the planet in seconds
@@CuongNguyen-sw1eb To add to that, its much easier to pick a lock in the comfort of your own workstation when you can freely put the lock in any position. It's a completely different situation when its mounted and in use.
Link or STFU
Good luck breaking into this man’s house. He’d be out there criticizing your form and giving you suggestions. After you broke in, he’d suggest a higher security option to himself.
Duncan Bruce highly unlikely, this man tests all of his locks for sure
In one of the videos, he shows a standard Kwikset he uses on his own house that he changed the pins so that if you tried to pick it, it would jamb and be inoperable.
Also remember this guy owns a ton of firearms
@@bradylow5196 exactly he has videos of him shooting locks and he had a few options to pick from
@@TheDjcarter1966 wasn't that Bosnian bill's?
LPL: "this lock is beyond my capabilities--"
Me: *buys 10 of them*
And it's one of the cheapest on the list too.
A couple of days later he updates the video to say, oops I missed there is a flaw in the keyway in this lock can be bypassed. Stock in the company plummets.
@salvadorvizcarra769that’s loud though
3:30 "so this lock is basically pick resistant, but I didn't have a key so I picked it open" ..lol
Resistant, not proof.
@@steelfender4593 still impresive
Here's what you really want to know: prices, plus or minus.
Abus 37RK/80 $125
Abloy 362 $200
Rotalok $350 - from the manufacturer, limited availability
Sargent & Greenleaf 831 $300 used, I personally remember them being about $800 new.
Assa Ruko 4-5 $350 ?? Couldn't find this exact lock, based on similar-ish ones
Kasp 19070X $100 on Amazon, believe it or not
Mul-t-lock C16 $200
Mul-t-lock e18h $220 out of stock...
Hi-Shear LK1200 $225 used (would kind of like an NSN or FSN)
Squire SS80CS $215
(edit Disclaimer: none of these prices reflect swapping out the cores with the wizard magic he put in them or that they can optionally be ordered with)
Not too bad. The only crazy, crazy expensive one is the SGT&Greenleaf if you buy a new, current model (951C), it will set you back about $1500
I'm guessing this list took longer to compile than the video -.-
Thank you for all of your hard work!
The price on Abloy PL362 is probably with the Classic core. It's usually much more expensive.
Yeah, I'll edit it to reflect that I didn't factor in any of the prices of the swapped cores.
Thanks for your effort! That is VERY helpful!
LPL had some really great viewers and commenters!
Very good indeed...
I just ordered a 362 with Protec2 for $130 new delivered from eBay with 2-keys. I also got a 342 with an unknown core and 3 keys, new, for $66 delivered. And the Stanley Grade-4 lock is $23 on Amazon (two-pack KA for ~$46).
Why am I looking at lock videos
same bro
i should be sleeping and I’m on a binge, making me feel scared of how easy all of my stuff is to steal now
Honestly same. I'm so tired but I just watched like 12 of these. I don't know how I got here.
I just wanna know cost and where can I buy one
I too fell into the TH-cam hole
I was an Aviation Ordnanceman in the Navy, and our Ready Service Lockers (RSL), where we stored all of our explosives, had those Sargent and Greenleaf 833 locks. I swear the keys looked like they were 4” in length and the locks themselves weighed a ton. Nice to see LPL recognize them!
I measured my 833 keys and they are 2 ¾" but yea long and goes to a big Bertha of a lock
I love the eloquence of this man’s speech.
Very pick resistant, watch me pick it on other video...hehe
he said resistant not immunity XD well you know hes just bragging now
Soulaimane Boutjagualt can you blame him?
I'm not sure if you've ever picked a lock before, but lock picking is a skill, some locks are extremely easy to pick. Others, I wouldn't personally be able to pick if my life depended on it, but I can pick most locks. This man can pick probably most locks, it's a talent that very few people have.
@@Chris9183 he was talking as if he was the OP dummy. Holy shit that was the most dense thing ive read in a fucking while.
@@JustHereForTheDialogue You know what's more amazing though? Insulting someone twice over a misunderstanding.
Was thinking about getting a modern version of the S&G 831 (951C).
Unfortunately, it's a $2300 lock.
I'd come back to find my bike standing there, sans lock and chain, with a note saying "Thanks for the nice lock!"
Thats because tax payers are forced to pay for it.
Wait doesn't sans mean without in French, why did you say sans
@@kylerharris4246 because he's implying the lock is more expensive than the bike, so they took the lock and left the bike
Ironic that the Navy uses the S&G 951 but it doesn't stand up to corrosion worth a darn.
Ingersoll makes a pretty passable alternative to the s&g. Its much cheaper. Probably at least as picl resistant for even capable pickers.
10) Abus 37/80 $107
9) Abloy 362 $185
8) Rotalok $595 used
7) Sargent and Greenleaf 831 $189 used
6) Assa Ruko 4-5 $132 used
5) Kasp 19070X $138 used
4) Multigaurd C16 $188 used
3) MultiLock E18H $283.32 new
2) Hi-Shear LK1200 $109 used
1) Squire SS80CS $215 new
No. Number 1 is ss100cs
Thanks for taking the time .
@@firstbloood1 You're correct Bill and that's _why_ they're so cheap on eBay. I've always received at least 2 keys with every Abloy I've bought off eBay, I had 3 keys with the 342 I bought (worth collecting too that baby is, like a miniature 362, kinda sexy) So just don't be a prize-pratt and lose your keys like prize-pratts do and you'll be fine fine fine. 100% agreed, you _will_ definitely be stuffed if you lose your keys to a locked Abloy, practically impossible to pick you'd need an angle grinder, plasma torch or oxy-acetylene torch to get the bugger off again!
No Master locks?
that is more expensive than the bike i'm trying to keep safe LOL
What’s sort of funny is that when he can pick a lock, he won’t stop subtly roasting it, but when he _can’t,_ he showers them with praise.
When he said “certainly beyond my own abilities” I was sold!
but he opened it in episode 548
@@egeirmakgulseven8945 he didn't open shit, get your words straight. He opened the old patent pending version. Nobody can touch the RK version of the ABUS Plus Core
@@juanbaclavab bit aggressive, don't you think so?
@@juanbaclavab exept the bosnian bill and i tool
@@juanbaclavabtook that a bit personal eh? No worries, I’m also that passionate about a few things in life so I understand.
As an airforce vet I can confirm we locked our bandcamp weirdos in broom closets with Hi-shear locks.
When they're not playing instruments or doing parades they turn into cannibalistic frat boys so we hide them.
Yes but they aren’t as dangerous as the maintainers. 😁
They can also be launched in the tube and sent up as anti-ballistic interceptor missiles when necessary
you must have had lots of Firebolts 2000 in your broom closed
I read this comment early on going ok sure then I get to 8:09 and I laugh out loud
@@chowspecialYeah it cracked me up because it was his slipup but we actually had to do that once. We had some trainee color guard at my base get too rowdy drinking one saturday playing games and we legitimately locked them in a day room for about 4 hours lmfao
the Rotalok is by far my favorite design. Making it twist-proof is something I haven't seen in many padlocks.
But do you think it can stop Marisa?
The rotalock i was about to say you could just slap a pipe wrench instead of a fork but then you showed the spinning ability.. Engineers are smarter than we think
some.
You have to remember that most of these innovations weren't thought about by geniuses with a great capacity for prognostication. Instead, in all likelihood, what actually happened is that they tried to make the body square, then they were broken into through rotation. So they were forced to make the body rotate.
I was thinking the same thing, just put a damn pipe wrench on it!! Oh sh!t it spins, clever bastards.
Does not apply to Master Lock engineers (if they employ any, that is)
Squirt some locktite in it first
I maintained the S&G 831 series lock when I was in the US Navy. Those were damned fine locks. The "buildings" they secured were also very well protected by several other forms of security, one of note was a platoon of US Marines with M16's.
Those seem pretty unpickable
As a retired attorney, I find your videos SO REFRESHING despite the otherwise banal subject matter. Well spoken, pragmatic, thoughtful, analytical, and incisive -- unlike most other YT intellectual dwarfs who simply point a GoPro at themselves, and babble incessantly about subjects with little factual basis (aside from personal experience). All my best wishing you much success!
"Designed to lock up military musicians".. :D
Got to keep the buglers under constant guard!
I imagine a bunch of bagpipers and drummers somewhere in a shed, like farming equipment, just ready to start marching and playing.
Fleetwood Mac Tusk.
Doot doot 🎺
Hello? Hello? It’s kinda dark in here, is anyone there? Please, I just play the trumpet.
LOL - these padlocks cost more than the item(s) I'm protecting!
Lol.
It depends on how much your willing to protect your items
But at least you know nobody is getting away with your items
@@b_f_d_d You'll just find a gaping hole in the side of the container courtesy of the handy-dandy angle grinder, with the added bonus of a smaller hole where the expensive-looking lock once resided. 😇
The first one is common on motorcycles (with any value" in western europe.
In awe of the size of these lads, absolute units
I think the Abus and Abloy are my favs from here, amazingly well-rounded padlocks
I am an ex AO (Aviation Ordnanceman) from the USS Theodore Roosevelt where I was a mag rat (G3 Weapons Division) working in the ships weapons magazines. All our locks were the S&G 831’s so I am very familiar with seeing those things. Ours had the ceramic inserts to deter cutting. Nice to see them get some LPL love!
But did you lock up any musicians? (If you read this, you'll *probably* need to watch the video again to understand.)
I would say that it is extreme precaution from this british company to send the padlock to the owner without the keys. This is new level of security. ;-)
surprised master lock isn't on the list with some huge monstrosity you can open with a toothpick.
yahn86us most pickrrs view mastrr locks as inferior and not worthy
I think their huge monstrosity was the Master Number 29. Actually a decent lock from what I hear. I think it has an interchangeable core, also. It was so good, in fact, that Master quit making it. I mean, they can't just go around making stuff that's actually worth a damn, right? That'd just be crazy!
Michael, the 29 is quite good, but not big enough for this list. The closest Master Lock ever had to a lock for this list is the 19, which was a very nice lock.
yahn86us , HAHAHA😀
Master 19 was my first super massive lock, and a remnant of when Master used to actually make good locks in the US.
Instead of 'what is the best padlock', let's specify: What are the best readily available padlocks under $100?
That would be a cool video too
An EXCELLENT padlock between 100-200 ( 140 new.. Can be had cheaper used ), is an ABUS 83/55, it comes with either their new BiLock core or Abloy Protec 2. Very strong body, very pick resistant.
"Good locks for various situations" - Bike, crate, door, shed, etc.
Obviously, that depends on that it is used for... but that said, the #10 lock on the list can be regularly found online for under $100. :-)
Its not only the lock the hasp on your door or chain must also be able to handle the same punishment .
Whats the point of a huge nasty lock no one can open on a rusty hasp that falls of the door ?
There is also very little hasp test or comparison online .
Abloy factory test video ... its their own so take it with grain of salt ... still impressive.
Its the smaller 350 model not the 362 and text is in finnish
th-cam.com/video/QbrKS6wLdCA/w-d-xo.html
Hey Lpl, it been a few years since you did a review, was curious if you could possibly do a new updated list! Im sure not that much has changed but it would be nice to see what you would use to lock up your stuff with a padlock! Thanks
8:20 First thought in my head was "SERGEANT! I was informed that you play the Saxophone!" "Uhh yes sir, I do. Why'd you ask?" "Pull out the Hi-Shear LK1200. We have another one."
Knowing you can't pick them truly shows how good they are.
10 years ago I shipped household goods and locked my container thinking I had the Best pad lock around. Little did I known, it was the ABUS DISC. LOL
All fantastic padlocks featured here. I personally use an Abloy PL350 for locking up my motorcycle with a 12mm Peweg hardened chain. The PL350 is just a bit smaller than the PL362 and has a fully exposed shackle, but with all Protec core goodness intact. It's a lovely hunk of mechanical engineering. Very smooth to open and close.
They are very nice locks... good choice.
LPL approved!
"And now in the number 3 spot..."
**pulls out a brick**
Let's just just take a moment to appreciate that he takes the time to reference each picking video. :)
If I had something like that protecting my scooter I think the thief would steal the lock instead.😂👌
I know nothing about locks or lock picking but I love your videos haha
Very cool video! Just a suggestion: would be very handy to get your thoughts the best value locks. E.g. "I have X to spend, what is the best commercial lock I can get for that money?". We see cheap stuff like Master lock getting humiliated across TH-cam, but it's difficult for the consumer to know what instead to opt for without having to go seriously high-end.
Alexander Heavens I had the same thought. although prices can vary, it would be great to have a similar list defined by lock price: Best locks under $50usd, best locks $50-100usd, etc.
Good idea. I'll give it some thought.
My local Ace Hardware is carrying only Masterlocks. They have their own name brand?!?!
How do you define "seriously high end" and what are you locking up?
LockPickingLawyer and another youtuber who does lock videos both have said the Stanley 60mm lock is VERY tough... it is $33. Where I live, people picking locks isn't the problem, its people prying, hitting or cutting them. This will stand up to most of that very well. From my research, you would need to jump up to a $100 lock to get a better lock than the Stanley. Here is the link:
www.amazon.com/Stanley-Hardware-S828-160-Shrouded-Hardened/dp/B001V5IYT2
You are a worthwhile source of information that is delivered without haste!
Now I know what to buy. Thank you for showing us the safest models (as of 2017) 🥰
Some of these... it would be quicker just to cut around the lock. Inevitably the hardened lock is attached to stiff cheese
Agreed... these locks will seldom be the weakest link.
Matthew Trzcinski I locked up a massive gate (12' tall and 16' wide made from 3" square tubing and a 4x4 screen of 1/2" hardened drill rod for the mesh...) we used a super heavy duty chain with a pretty large American Lock w/a primus core in it mounted on the gate inside a shroud. When we were broken into, the people used a 8 wheel tractor the farmer left parked in a field up the road to snatch the gate off the hinges ( which were 1 inch hardened drill rod...) I said that to say this, get used to the fact you can't win them all, if someone wants in bad enough, they will probably get in unless less you have armed guards posted 24/7. You can deter, but they may still win.
Yeah...if one of those lock was on my school locker you are probably better just pulling hard on it by the design of it it will break for sure
@@wb5mgr that's still impressive security when it takes a giant tractor to defeat it. That's the difference.
I need that Squire lock for my lunchbox so when my co-workers try to steal my lunch they don't get sick from the wife's cooking she packed me.
😂😂😂
Make brownies laced with exlax for your lunchbox.
at least you got a wife :(
@Dan Gleeballs not exactly not after 2 months
Thats hilarious
Most of these locks are more expensive than the items being protected by most..
Not at all. I assure you anyone using any of these locks for an actual purpose is protecting something very valuable. Take the military one, that’s designed to protect probably millions of dollars of munitions/ technology.
Obviously if you’re going to buy this lock it will be used for something very valuable.
Storage units...
Maybe so, but you can't really put a price on a collection of vintage buttplugs.
Items more expensive than these locks include:
1) iPhone
2) AT4 Rocket Launcher
3) M16 Rifle
4) M92F 9mm Beretta hand gun (just barely though)
lmfao @3:40
"they sent me this lock which has a highly pick-resistant core, but didn't send the key. so anyways, I picked it"
I would love to see update for this video. If I've understood correctly Abus Plus core is much much easier to pick than Abloy Protec core. How about the other locks and how do you see these today?
When you brought up that first military style lock I laughed immediately recognizing it. It brought up bad memories of cleaning weapons at the armory...
It’s 2023. I think you should update the list please. 😊
I remember the Sargent and Greenleaf being used on bunkers, including bunkers that contained items that were not either confirmed or denied. I also remember that hornets love to build in the hasp covers, thus the Spectracide was far more important than the keys!
how do you think the lock would do out side vs indoors?
Rotalok is perhaps the most impressive lock design I've seen.
I was considering one for a container, but it's also the most expensive and hard to get (at least outside of the UK).
@@smartcatcollarproject5699 Yeah I found out it's hard to get as well.
Awesome! The round lock would also deflect bullets better too! However I am sold on the first 2 locks shown! I'll be buying a dozen!
after seeing this video, i want to buy some of these locks to throw on the shelf because they look so amazing.
bird718 Better get a lock to lock up that lock collection
youtube algorithm is weird man
I’m not sure what I was watching to get this recommended, but I’m not mad 🤷🏻♂️
same
Not really, I want epic and this channel is epic.
Welcome to a great channel you never knew existed!
why?
Very impressed with the shipping container lock. Absolutely gorgeous!
This is my top non-fiction TH-cam video.
A huge thank you for all your hard work.
Omg, I'm totally addicted to your picking videos! Outstanding videography and explanations! Thank you!!!
When he taps the lock at 7:51 I get satisfied for some reason
Had to sub only because whenever he picks a lock it's so satisfying
I would have liked to have heard the price of each as you listed them.
1. $120 (Amazon, $85 used)
2. $275 + $31 shipping (Amazon)
3. $432 (direct from mfg)
4. $160 (used, eBay)
5. n/a
6. n/a (find a dealer)
7. $116 (Amazon)
8. $240 (direct from mfg)
9. $180 (mfg direct)
10. (arms room door - LOL)
11. $180 (shipping from UK would be brutal!)
Thank you for the great info and guidance.Very much appreciated.I am not interested in picking locks,I just want to protect my hard earned possessions. Thanks again
First time viewer and though I only stopped just to see what it was about, I liked it very much. Your presentation is very clear and informative. It never would have occurred to me that you could "accessorize" a lock by changing the core. New subscriber.
That Abloy is a beauty!
It is! Too shiny to use!
its like a Finnish lake surface in winter lol
Finnish quality!
Very pleased with mine, been outside in terrible English weather for years and its still in perfect order and very shiny. Super hard too, dropped it onto rocks and concrete many times without any marks or scratches.
For looks, the Kasp gets my vote.
Its time for an updated top 10!
*Now I see why the duty free shop where I worked used keys like this*
8:17 "locking up military musicians" lmao
I found your channel during quarantine. I am glad you made a video that has locks that won't fail or can be pick just by looking at them.
From lightest to heaviest:
10: Abus 37RK/80 (not yet picked)
09: Abloy 362 (not yet picked)
08: Rotalok (th-cam.com/video/CxRV-zLzHN4/w-d-xo.html)
07: Sargent & Greenleaf 831 (not yet picked)
06: Assa Ruko 4-5 (not yet picked)
05: Kasp 19070X (th-cam.com/video/h-w0kanxUWo/w-d-xo.html)
04: Mul-t-lock C16 (th-cam.com/video/NqBeDP4CPXs/w-d-xo.html)
03: Mul-t-lock e18h (th-cam.com/video/KGJBANYf6P8/w-d-xo.html)
02: Hi-Shear LK1200 (not yet picked)
01: Squire SS80CS (th-cam.com/video/h27t7elN5Qs/w-d-xo.html)
Thanks to htomerif for the list text :)
Whilst browsing I also found videos of these big(ish) locks that do not appear to be in the list above, but perhaps could have been. In no particular order:
th-cam.com/video/vjbI_HN9IQU/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/5ldLzuZj-lQ/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/INa8fMw66PY/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/EXT7PEKaajo/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/8bkzv9tBXls/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/eOJc9OiRN5A/w-d-xo.html
There are more, but I think these will do for now; some people might be interested in watching them.
Awesome list of locks in the video - thanks VERY much for posting it! :)
Good info... thanks for adding.
Great locks, was expecting to see the Ingersoll impregnable here, but maybe it was one of the ones that just didn't make it on the list. Now for the really hard question... security aside, which is your favourite? I'm guessing the S&G?? :-)
Lock Noob that is definitely a worthy lock
I have a couple of them... I LOVE the core, but they are just too small for the line up... they are under 2 lbs.
Demolition Ranch has a video about how to bust the S&G using unconventional methods...
The Whiskey Gunner Vw passat quality and problems
Lock Noob
Didn't know Sargent & Greenleaf were involved with padlocks. In the military, the S & G combination safe dial was routinely used on safes or vault doors to secure classified materials/equipment (at least in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s).
necropost, but those S&G padlocks used to secure most Army armsrooms, along with a remotely monitored alarm system. So it is that lock holding perhaps 100-150 ARs, pistols, grenade launchers, machine guns, etc. Although usually not much ammo beyond perhaps a mag or 2 for a guard when the alarm craps out.
S&G also had a combination padlock that we used on mobile crypto safes in the 60s
I personally enjoyed the introductions of the locks. Feels like you're calling stats for mma fighters. Great info as well. Thanks for the video
The roto loc is the best shipping container lock around. I used to see them on railroad cars all the time and it never really dawned on me why they rotated. But if you have something worth protecting then this will do it
Ahhh shit, I used to put that big military lock on the CAD locker everyday when I was in the Navy.
0:30 There also is the question of purpose, like the lock you're showing right now isn't really fit for closing chains, the shackle is too large to go through the average chain, and two links would be hard to have in there at the same time to close it.
“And I cannot pick this lock”
This is, by far, one of the biggest compliments a lock can get
Complaints?
You mean compliments?
@@makeshiftg6246 this post has been up for 6 months, and you are the only person to stop by and ask me if this is what I meant. I thank you for that, you beautiful person.
Why is this so addictive and captivating? I have no desire to pick a lock.
You have some very interesting locks,sir,and I have seen a majority that you have picked open,with some difficulty.
Keep on picking,and and grinning. 😁
Congrats on 1m Subs! I'm sure it's only a matter of time since you're 3k away! Drop a community post saying how close you are. That always helps me quickly jump those humps!
Didn't expect to see you here! I guess brawl stars has a lock picking community lol!
What the fuck, kairos is on here? Lmao
kairos???????
I have cut some of the best locks ever made off of trailers at work because shippers would drop off trailers and not unlock the doors. A cordless grinder with a cut off wheel will make short work of any of them.
I've been looking around, no one has mentioned a plasma cutter. With a Milwaukee 12 A-hr battery or two and small canister of compressed air, you could probably make a fairly portable rig. I have a chain saw uses one of those batteries and it's amazing how much cutting you can do with it.
@@mechtheist have you ever tried cutting metal with a chainsaw? It doesn't work.
@@ivanf4023 How is that relevant? Have you ever tried to drive a chain saw to work? By your thinking, that would mean electric cars won't work. My point is about the energy storage in these batteries is really impressive and could likely run a plasma cutter long enough cut useful amounts of metal. It was just idle speculation about possibilities. And of course a chain saw can cut metal, just depends on thickness and hardness. You ever played with sodium? I think all of the guys on the left of the periodic table are not much harder to cut than maybe cold chocolate or maybe PET? Can't come up with quite the right example.. You could have a lot of [dangerous] fun with mercury.
@@ivanf4023 Have you tried honing in your reading comprehension skills? It might just take and save us future useless comments.
@@mechtheist oih
"Designed for locking up military musicians"
That's when you start to regret choosing the bard class.
Hi. Do you have an updated version of this video? Thanks!
Military musicians should all definitely be locked-up! LOL Thanks for the continued amazing content!
8:16 Designed to lock up military musicians.. I died -.-
So which lock do you use to lock up all the locks?👍
A laughably insecure wafer lock.
no need to lock them, they're all self-locking 😂
Put them in the bank vault, down the street.
Poor "Military Musicians"
What was theyre crime?
Probably horrible brass section 🤣
F y’all
Glenn Miller and Artie Shaw would like a word - you can kiss them in the brass!
The Abloy 362 just rocks !
"beyond my current ability" *NEVER* thought I'd ever hear LPL utter those words :)
LockPickingLawyer: What about the Laclede ? When I sought out Pewag security chain, I was directed to the Laclede "13 mm Lockdown Security Chain & Padlock kit." I don't know much about either that padlock or chain. Would love to hear your impressions or even see some videos where you test the padlock & chain. I obtained mine from a rigging supply co.
I love how they had to stop using the lock in the second slot because its weight kept bending or breaking the crates it was suppose to secure.
I'm not proud of my felonious past, 40-odd years ago. But I had a simple method that would get past nearly all padlock storage units, barns, sheds etc. I carried a six-foot steel bar, called a Johnson Bar by some, and I had modified the straight tip to have a very slight bend, about 10 degrees, 8 inches up. The thing weighed 50 pounds, but if I could get it into the shackle or behind the hasp, with a slight pull that lock was off. I once opened 30 storage units in half an hour. Which points out that, you can buy the strongest lock in the world but if what you are securing it to is weak (hasp or structure), you may as well leave it unlocked. In fact, I would bypass unlocked storage sheds, assuming nothing was in them of value. Some of the locks were expensive ones (for the 1970's), but became useless, still locked, as I broke the hasp bolt out of the weak aluminum door.
To rekey #6, step 1 is to shim the shackle. Step 2 is to push aside a decorative piece with a pick. Remaining steps are normal, but requiring a shim and a pick for routine work is quite a statement of confidence. The same lock is available in a cheaper brass version. Key retaining is just an option.
8:22 a lock design to lock up military musicians would also have made sense! 🤪🤣🤣😂