**Corrections** 1) The T7 is in the paid track of the battle pass. You can earn the T5 & T6 for free through mission chains. 2) The concealment is 6.1km the port ui is incorrect and had me confused.
One more think about French saturation that you didn't mention: while destroyers can't take citadel hits, they do have a portion of hull that counts as citadel. A ship's citadel HP is well in excess of the ship's total HP, meaning it cannot saturate before the ship sinks. French destroyer citadels *can* saturate. So while every other destroyer will take consistent damage if you hit the mid section, French destroyers will not.
So to sum up: anytime you don't have to fight against carriers and subs you could have a fun match in this dd? Isn't that true of every single ship in this game? Double cvs and triple sub matches have ruined the game. I'm curious how the playerbase numbers, especially NA, have been faring lately.
According to any data anyone has presented, the playerbase has been very very slowly declining, but that's just normal for a game this old. There is no noticeably spike in decreases after the addition of subs.
It ranges at its peak between 8k and 14k. Buy if you average it all out its about 9500 for NA during peak hours. At non peak hours it stays a constant 2400+.
I am a dd main. Subs and cvs don’t bother me. I actually like it as I have to change my tactics. And since both teams have equal numbers then it’s still even.
Wait, is the implication that the explosives are also the fuel? So that as the torpedoes travel, they consume their own explosives as fuel and then do less and less damage when they finally hit?
you're all wrong, they simply had a bad batch of torps made that all had small cracks in the metal casings, the longer the torp is in the water, the more water leaks into the black powder, thus reducing the boom at the end....lol
5:55 I just want to mention that death_machine is actually my father, he gets chat banned all the time cause he can stop complaining. He and I play together all the time. He is a great player, he just complains too much lol
Sometimes yes and some dds have armor belts that can't be penned by he. Those belts also help guarantee full pens. It just really depends on the dds in question and the scenario tho.
very much so depends learn your arming thresholds dds with small guns like daring, vampire, harugumo, z-42 (anything with 119mm or smaller guns) has 19mm or lower arming threshold, and can thus pen all other dds guns of
I know that sounds like a weird question (and perhaps an idea for a future video) Let's say I already owned the Marceau, what are the advantages and drawbacks of this ship (in terms of pure ship stats obviously, before we talk of the Premium vs non-Premium thing) compared to her (who has a very similar stat list; 12 torpedoes in an identical scheme; same guns)
Cassard has about 4.5km more torp range, 1 less gun (i think with slightly slower reload but can't remember what Marceau reload is) and is one of the slowest t10 dds
@@TwigsGames they have the same reload, but you should absolutely not play Cassard as a gunboat. Her HE dpm is painfully average (despite having 3 marceau turrets), her gun angles are terrible and her speed is one of the worst at T10
So what’s the logic behind the damage falloff on the torpedoes? Shoddy French craftsmanship has the explosive payload leak out into the water as they travel? 🤔
this thing looks bizarre but somewhat enjoyable. varying torpedo damage? it promotes more of a high risk/high reward style but unlike the shima f3’s its got the ability to play safer too. will be interested to see how it plays
i have MANY questions XD on another video i saw the max dmg range of torp was 6km..., i wonder how it will go against a kleber kleber torp reload way faster ( shorter range too but still very powerfull) plus speed and gun reload. For survival i would use both concealment and dazzle. and when WG will make a leg mod i wonder how it will work, kleber one already make it a torpedeo boat of sort. lastly i doubt WG code would allow it but, what do you guys think of torp that work a bit like cassard one but with more change? like you get torp with maximum dmg at a range BUT past this point, dmg reduce but torp gain more speed ( less fuel so lighter but less exploding force too)... but that would be a pain in the Ass to code torp lead on that XD
6km is when early announcement, then buffed and now nerf again to 7 or 7.5km (i forget). Cassard is really mix match of Kleber and Marceau but the gameplay can be 2 gameplay: 1. Regolo but without smoke so you need to rely on the saturation gimmick and the speed boost that not even fast enough as standard of kleber/marceau. She might be like kleber leg mod but my friend said more into regolo due to short speed boost 2. Classic marceau/kleber gun boat. Its hard against Kleber, especially againts the leg mod so better pick kleber for torps. For gun, probably can out gun kleber IF no mbrb and no speed boost
The powercreep is real and obvious and I don't like it. Previously you had to choose between mutiple sets of torps in port (like Shimakaze) or at least you had to choose between them before launch (like Minegumo). They were radically different and you needed to know what you were choosing. With this new Cassard mechanic you essentially get all the torpedoes in one package for free. They are simultaneously point blank mini nukes and long range zoning tools. Cassard also gets the guns to defend itself. Such freedom is lacking from older torpedo boats, Cassard will invalidate Shima, Gearing, Halland and the likes.
Stop providing false information! The torp damage at max (13.5km) range is 40% of the max damage, which translates to ~9700 damage NOT 17000, lower than Halland.
.... Because IRL torpedoes can be programmed to have a variable yield based on distance? ... and you want torpedoes IRL that do less damage further away?
Magic torps that hurt less the further away they are? Good thing explosions know how far they are from when they were launched. This game really is just turning into a magic gimmicks game the more it goes on...
Ah yes as opposed to highly realistic mechanics such as the Concealment system where a ship is completely hidden at 10.00km and completely detected at 9.99km
Shima players in shambles, less hp, less gun power, less torp range (with the good ones) worse detect on them, only advantage it has is stealth and speed since it's super long and has no special saturation
This meme needs to die, holy fck. Jinan Tech tree has been buffed. Yodo TT has been buffed. Gdansk TT has been buffed. Bungo TT has been buffed. Cerberus TT is untouched. Where did this idea of "oh they'll nerf it after Early Access" even come from? This playerbase loves to make shit up.
Gun fast dps but very frustrating that have to open broadside and cost of long reload time torps 2 mins If I play Kleber very risky but could torp in time with 60 sec
3:40 Maine have "fun" game, i think he is happy - he try to push on his BB and change his HP to damage. Wow, so balance class DD`s when no one can spot them (cv, radar or sub), they give "truly fun gameplay to others when they are invulnerable to the enemy....
@@cheeseplate44 The Maine was pushing into a won flank, he just lacked the tools for spotting PQ when his friendly DD decided to smoke up and hide rather than take on the lone DD. The Maine was not doing anything wrong other than hoping his team mate would actually do their job. Z-46 out spots Cassard by a fair bit there is no reason why the Z-46 didn't just 1/4 speed and let PQ spot himself for the Maine. Also not to be that guy but Valoord has a point, DDs are un-fun to play against, and the power creep with them has been insane. Cassard having effectively faster Shima torps out to around 7-7.5km with a much faster reload, tighter spread, better torp angles, with the gun DPM of Halland, and French damage saturation. Let's be real the only reason to play Halland at all after Cassard comes out is if you REALLY want that extra 1.5km of torp range, because even at minimum damage Cassard's torps hit harder and have the exact same reaction time, and Halland is already a stupid powerful DD.
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**Corrections**
1) The T7 is in the paid track of the battle pass. You can earn the T5 & T6 for free through mission chains.
2) The concealment is 6.1km the port ui is incorrect and had me confused.
It is 6.1 km concealment like you said, not 6.5 km. They haven't changed the port info yet.
One more think about French saturation that you didn't mention: while destroyers can't take citadel hits, they do have a portion of hull that counts as citadel. A ship's citadel HP is well in excess of the ship's total HP, meaning it cannot saturate before the ship sinks. French destroyer citadels *can* saturate. So while every other destroyer will take consistent damage if you hit the mid section, French destroyers will not.
So to sum up: anytime you don't have to fight against carriers and subs you could have a fun match in this dd? Isn't that true of every single ship in this game? Double cvs and triple sub matches have ruined the game. I'm curious how the playerbase numbers, especially NA, have been faring lately.
According to any data anyone has presented, the playerbase has been very very slowly declining, but that's just normal for a game this old. There is no noticeably spike in decreases after the addition of subs.
It ranges at its peak between 8k and 14k. Buy if you average it all out its about 9500 for NA during peak hours. At non peak hours it stays a constant 2400+.
I am a dd main. Subs and cvs don’t bother me. I actually like it as I have to change my tactics. And since both teams have equal numbers then it’s still even.
@@brucemc1581 lol if you are dd main cvs bother you dude...dont lie and write crap.
@@vitezslavlorenc3479 they bother everyone and everyone bothers them. Stop whining.
Oh yes! new PQ video, my mid morning poop is gonna be lit
🤣🤣🤣
Did you drop the kids off at the pool? 😂
Lmao I always watch his Videos while taking my first poop at work
Big, slow, no smoke, no heal... indeed great game as long as there are no CV and Sub
basically no game at all on the SEA server (always 2 cv and sub)
Wait, is the implication that the explosives are also the fuel? So that as the torpedoes travel, they consume their own explosives as fuel and then do less and less damage when they finally hit?
at this point there is no implication, they're just scrambling for gimmicks to sell new ships
yea torps normally run on compressed air. or battery's. just wargaming try to make more complicated mechanics that new players wont know
you're all wrong, they simply had a bad batch of torps made that all had small cracks in the metal casings, the longer the torp is in the water, the more water leaks into the black powder, thus reducing the boom at the end....lol
The fuel in the torpedo increase kaboom power, less fuel = less kaboom
5:55 I just want to mention that death_machine is actually my father, he gets chat banned all the time cause he can stop complaining. He and I play together all the time. He is a great player, he just complains too much lol
i wish i had understood sooner but now i understand better i got the t5 destroyer. im liking the running with my head cut off aproach
Should we use AP at the broadside DD's while playing DD's
If the alpha is high
Sometimes yes and some dds have armor belts that can't be penned by he. Those belts also help guarantee full pens. It just really depends on the dds in question and the scenario tho.
You should use AP against Gearing (21mm section), some russian dd's, and the Elbing line
Got it, Thanks for all of your info 👍
very much so depends
learn your arming thresholds
dds with small guns like daring, vampire, harugumo, z-42 (anything with 119mm or smaller guns) has 19mm or lower arming threshold, and can thus pen all other dds
guns of
Ah the Custard! as Jingles will call it
Great games pq, you've certainly upped your dd game I'd say. 😏
Might be a weird request, but what if you tried out the Yūdachi? I don't see too many videos on it and its a fun little torp boat to play.
So true, everybody underestimates 15km torps with high damage
Edit: they don’t even know the range of them tbf
Looks strong, looking forward to the line!
I know that sounds like a weird question (and perhaps an idea for a future video)
Let's say I already owned the Marceau, what are the advantages and drawbacks of this ship (in terms of pure ship stats obviously, before we talk of the Premium vs non-Premium thing) compared to her (who has a very similar stat list; 12 torpedoes in an identical scheme; same guns)
Cassard has about 4.5km more torp range, 1 less gun (i think with slightly slower reload but can't remember what Marceau reload is) and is one of the slowest t10 dds
@@TwigsGames they have the same reload, but you should absolutely not play Cassard as a gunboat. Her HE dpm is painfully average (despite having 3 marceau turrets), her gun angles are terrible and her speed is one of the worst at T10
Man can't wait to grind this line cause I'm sorry it's a skill issue but I can't make the kleber line work though I play dds a lot
So what’s the logic behind the damage falloff on the torpedoes? Shoddy French craftsmanship has the explosive payload leak out into the water as they travel? 🤔
Hey, I just got the french leg captain, and i was wondering, would it be better to use it on kleber or in this one?
this thing looks bizarre but somewhat enjoyable. varying torpedo damage? it promotes more of a high risk/high reward style but unlike the shima f3’s its got the ability to play safer too.
will be interested to see how it plays
Can't wait for the line!
I'm assuming the smolensk said something super nasty to have you blur the chat LOL
Gamer words
how is the mod called with the green circles around the ship symbol? and what is its purpose?
I forget but it's either the engine power or current speed
It's speed indicator
Might do well with range on the guns.
Can you share what mods you use... plz
He did a video on that some time ago.
Very slow tho so it won't be replacing the marceau or kleber for the role of high speed dd coursing through the map
Which is stronger Gdansk or Cassard?
Look very similar on paper (I think).
They're not similar at all.
Gdansk is a gunboat. Cassard is a torpboat.
i have MANY questions XD on another video i saw the max dmg range of torp was 6km..., i wonder how it will go against a kleber
kleber torp reload way faster ( shorter range too but still very powerfull) plus speed and gun reload.
For survival i would use both concealment and dazzle.
and when WG will make a leg mod i wonder how it will work, kleber one already make it a torpedeo boat of sort.
lastly i doubt WG code would allow it but, what do you guys think of torp that work a bit like cassard one but with more change? like you get torp with maximum dmg at a range BUT past this point, dmg reduce but torp gain more speed ( less fuel so lighter but less exploding force too)... but that would be a pain in the Ass to code torp lead on that XD
6km is when early announcement, then buffed and now nerf again to 7 or 7.5km (i forget).
Cassard is really mix match of Kleber and Marceau but the gameplay can be 2 gameplay:
1. Regolo but without smoke so you need to rely on the saturation gimmick and the speed boost that not even fast enough as standard of kleber/marceau. She might be like kleber leg mod but my friend said more into regolo due to short speed boost
2. Classic marceau/kleber gun boat.
Its hard against Kleber, especially againts the leg mod so better pick kleber for torps. For gun, probably can out gun kleber IF no mbrb and no speed boost
no rpf ?
Good video PQ.
what cammo is that? ive seen people use it but I've never found it myself
Camo work in progress
So 24k damage out to 7km then what, a linear dropoff til 10.8k when it bottoms out at 16k?
The first stage of grief meme is here
How do you switch camera between torpedoes?
Push the Z button.
The default key bind is Z. Hit it repeatedly to cycle between the shells/torpedoes.
on the bottom leaft, how do i make it so i can see the direction the enemy shis is going like u haw it?
Aslain’s modpack, just google this name and it will change Wows for ya.
For all the smoking that Frenchies are so apt to display, it sure is funny they have no smoke on any of their DDs lol
This line will be strong in ranked.
1:52 the concealment is bad, it's the same as Elbing and Sherman, worse than Harugumo
Ohhh, so.. it was Indeed a video XD
Don't know why, the way the thumbnail looked, I thought we were getting the first dd that has rocket launcher modules.
Damage should have nothing to do with range.
Henry IV for the next vid please?
The powercreep is real and obvious and I don't like it.
Previously you had to choose between mutiple sets of torps in port (like Shimakaze) or at least you had to choose between them before launch (like Minegumo). They were radically different and you needed to know what you were choosing.
With this new Cassard mechanic you essentially get all the torpedoes in one package for free. They are simultaneously point blank mini nukes and long range zoning tools. Cassard also gets the guns to defend itself.
Such freedom is lacking from older torpedo boats, Cassard will invalidate Shima, Gearing, Halland and the likes.
Stop providing false information! The torp damage at max (13.5km) range is 40% of the max damage, which translates to ~9700 damage NOT 17000, lower than Halland.
.... Because IRL torpedoes can be programmed to have a variable yield based on distance? ... and you want torpedoes IRL that do less damage further away?
Magic torps that hurt less the further away they are? Good thing explosions know how far they are from when they were launched. This game really is just turning into a magic gimmicks game the more it goes on...
The torps have a leak so the cordite gets wet? 😵💫
Ah yes as opposed to highly realistic mechanics such as the Concealment system where a ship is completely hidden at 10.00km and completely detected at 9.99km
@@IntelCorei-KProcessor-go2to Lmao or the fact a battleship steaming at 35 knots can stop in a kilometre or 2
How the fuck did he get the Cassard? The PTS is not up yet.
Day 11 mogami 155 secondary build pls
No
Lol
Shima players in shambles, less hp, less gun power, less torp range (with the good ones) worse detect on them, only advantage it has is stealth and speed since it's super long and has no special saturation
Shima is much, much faster than Cassard and she also has a smoke which is huge.
Clearly gun boat :D
Absolutely not.
195k HE dpm (painfully average), no smoke, 34 knots and garbage gun angles.
If you play this ship as a gunboat. You will die.
VARIABLE Damage? WTH!
The torps will fall off a little bit more...after WG milk early access.
This meme needs to die, holy fck.
Jinan Tech tree has been buffed.
Yodo TT has been buffed.
Gdansk TT has been buffed.
Bungo TT has been buffed.
Cerberus TT is untouched.
Where did this idea of "oh they'll nerf it after Early Access" even come from? This playerbase loves to make shit up.
line to skip..
I want to see this ship after all nerfs..
I wish the torpedoes did MORE damage over distance, not LESS damage over distance.
WG wants us to play with less distance. T10 matches at >12km range are boring
day 2 of asking for the bismarck
Gun fast dps but very frustrating that have to open broadside and cost of long reload time torps 2 mins
If I play Kleber very risky but could torp in time with 60 sec
Hi
3:40 Maine have "fun" game, i think he is happy - he try to push on his BB and change his HP to damage. Wow, so balance class DD`s when no one can spot them (cv, radar or sub), they give "truly fun gameplay to others when they are invulnerable to the enemy....
that maine pushed into a torpedo dd in open water like a dumbass
@@cheeseplate44 The Maine was pushing into a won flank, he just lacked the tools for spotting PQ when his friendly DD decided to smoke up and hide rather than take on the lone DD.
The Maine was not doing anything wrong other than hoping his team mate would actually do their job. Z-46 out spots Cassard by a fair bit there is no reason why the Z-46 didn't just 1/4 speed and let PQ spot himself for the Maine.
Also not to be that guy but Valoord has a point, DDs are un-fun to play against, and the power creep with them has been insane. Cassard having effectively faster Shima torps out to around 7-7.5km with a much faster reload, tighter spread, better torp angles, with the gun DPM of Halland, and French damage saturation.
Let's be real the only reason to play Halland at all after Cassard comes out is if you REALLY want that extra 1.5km of torp range, because even at minimum damage Cassard's torps hit harder and have the exact same reaction time, and Halland is already a stupid powerful DD.
@@Stephen__White Yeah, the power creep is a litttttttle much here maybe
Meanwhile Halland is crying in it's bed.
My Halland cries tears of joy when the torp reload is 52 seconds…..
So another PQ shit build? You really wanna play torp DD without RPF? :D
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