It remains to be seen how well the AI Integration into the Nest works and how adaptable it really is. Simply identifying a pattern of users switching temperature to 68 in summer (when it is 80+ outside for several weeks and folks are at home on weekend/Saturday) and then suggesting to switch to 68 (when it is now fall and outside temperature is a more comfortable 74 on weekends) might not be what all users might want? In short, is it simple pattern recognition or is the AI actually taking into consideration other weather related parameters/comfort factors. As for the streamer CPU speed boost, Google seems to prioritize "planned obsolescence" - e.g. considering the upgrade roadmap for Google TV, this streamer should be viable for 'x years' down the road beyond which their devices become slow and unusable?
If Google wants any feedback, I hope you let them know that enthusiasts don't trust them not to kill an ecosystem anymore. They're always abandoning products and killing the cloud servers.
Google really missed the boat on the streamer. So much potential to release a superior option to the Shield and Apple TV and they release something that's barely an upgrade over the 4 year old Chromecast for double the price...
Huge miss not putting the latest S905X5 chipset in the streamer to bring it up to par with those other devices you mentioned, apparently it’s only using the same chipset as the 2021 Fire Stick Max so already obsolete, looked so promising with more storage, RAM & HDMI 2.1
As pretty and compelling as it is - I think I'm going to look at some other options when I upgrade. Google burned that bridge and I'm not wanting to take any additional chances with my home automation components.
Think the old thermostat had thread but not open-thread to communicate with nest protects. I’d be willing to bet this one has thread but not open-thread too. Loads of stuff was USA only in the old Nest range. I wonder which stuff will make it across to Europe.
The annoying thing with smart thermostats is not understanding comfort is a combination of humidity and temperature. I have as much confidence that AI solves this the way google thinks their updated streamer is a game changer. If it ever gets hot/uncomfortable, I just set the temperature 2 degrees lower, not set a specific temperature for the house; Big Consumer Tech seems not not understand this lol
i always had trouble with nest and my trane system with nest not turning on my aux heat in the winter time... switched to ecobee and no problems since, except for getting rid of developer keys.
Back in the day I've had a Nest doorbell. The app never knew if I was home or not. No problem for the doorbell. But I didn't dare to buy the thermostat. Bought a Tado.
Made the mistake of a Nest Doorbell and Thermostat combo, on top of the thermostat needing a paid API, it refuses to turn on the heat while hard-wired if the backup battery is not in place (why? It has the C Wire...). The doorbell apparently only uses the hard-wired connection to charge, but can't operate at the same time. The battery is prone to overheating (in the bay area winter of all places), which results in the device being offline often unless it is set to potato quality and short and useless event times.
@@TechDogeth my nest works perfectly and will upgrade to the latest one. I can’t relate to having no power and the battery overheating bc it never does.
Please could you make a dedicated updated video on the Gemini integrations coming to nest hardware. Sounds really interesting and I’d love to learn more about them!
I left an apartment a couple years back that had a smart thermostat and it was life changing. Not having a major house feature appliance end up in the google graveyard is a plus. Just put Matter on every google device from here on out...
And yeah, Streamer is a terrible name. Chromecast "Anything" woulda been better. However, it's *lack* of power and features may justify the name... it just streams stuff, nothing done well natively.
Sounds like a fun trip! I’m excited to see what people think when they’ve had a chance to use them longer. I’m still team ecobee since the sensors do occupancy detection and averaging
Does it work with modulating, high-efficiency furnaces yet though? Being stuck with Lennox’s medieval thermostat sucks but it’s the only thermostat that works with a modulating furnace!
I had a Nest and I loved it. When I moved to my new house, it didn’t work with my HVAC system. I can’t remember why it didn’t work. I have an Echobee and it is ok.
I had a Google nest and it was so invasive I switched it out got the Honeywell T5 smart thermostat. Sorry Google I don't want to hand over total control to you.
can you check if you can ask google "find my remote" instead of pressing the button on the "streamer" and I'm pretty sure they will come out with a "pro streamer" soon
I think the Ethernet port on the streamer is a good idea, but it has followed the usual Google upgrade path where it is an incremental upgrade rather than a major upgrade. I do like the new features of the new Nest Thermostat, but I don't think it's worth the upgrade over the previous model just yet. Improvements for sure, but like the streamer, it is more incremental than a major update.
It's disappointing but not surprising to hear they are discontinuing the Chromecast when the new Streamer comes out. People like things hidden, so they make something that needs to be out in the open, and ditch the thing that can be hidden. They should keep both products on the shelf but google probably know that if they did, most people wouldn't buy the streamer.
Dang. I really like the look of that nest thermostat. Im starting from scratch. Google streamer, yeah i might get this too, im on diy train and i find the content i want to watch most is on YT. I look forward to your vids on these products. Really surprised, amazon hasnt tried to improve twitch to have more YT capabilities or netflix purchase something to compete.
can the gold thermostat have a black background? in promo pics it shows a matching gold background. but id prefer black background for color contrast with the white numbers/letters
I look forward to testing out the new google streamer. I plan on picking up one when its released in Australia and see what I think of it. But I am curious of mounting options for the new stream behind the tv as half the tv's in my house are wall mounted so have no table to place the streamer on. But I assume just like say a apple tv. Either google or the 3d printer world will come up with a self print holder for the streamer that might allow it to be held in place.
I'm not thrilled with my Nest E. Mostly software related. Basic features like setting actual hours for when to use a second temp sensor. It's just 4 options: Morning, Day, Evening and Night. Like how hard would it be to customize those hours? I'd also love to see my HVAC system usage on the same day! I shouldn't need to wait for the day to end to see usage. And it would be nice if it graphed the temp and humidity in my home throughout the day. That would be great to see historical data in the app! If it dies, I'll be switching to Ecobee. After all, it's a thermostat, and it does work fine as that. Just missing some basic features that I believe could have been added over the years I've had it
can I just plug the new puck/display into the current setup? or do I have to replace the heatlink as well? I've literally just had the new 3rd gen installed and LOVE the look of this new puck, but I'm reluctant to go and pay an engineer to install the setup again - but if I can just replace the puck/display, then that's not as bad.
Unrelated comment, but for visibility, can you please do an in depth video on how you setup your hsm200 multisensor in your various automations? I can’t find anything useful on the internet and I can’t seem to make my light turn red or set a color in the automatons. Just light on or off. Thanks
Do those Gemini created Automations require the internet to run, or can they just run as long as local Wi-Fi is active? Anything which requires the internet to work is a deal-breaker for me
Ecobee is still the answer as this is more expensive and doesn't provide any benefits as it can be connected locally to home assistant via homekit integration for a lower price.
Glad that you touched on the new chromecast. The current one is so sluggish, I’m dubious than 22% faster is anywhere near enough for current expectation. Now that device is suppose to last us years .. But yeah having a dongle these days is a hard question outside for few specific use case (ie moonshine) and they’re not making the software experience any better than tv. Google has also this weird tendency of killing their product all the time which makes me nervous everytime I invest in their system
I like all of these new devices but what Google needs to work on most is not killing devices. I'm an android user but I'm seriously thinking of switching over to Apple and homekit
I still use the original Chromecast when I travel. I can watch my shows on the hotel or Airbnb tv. I'm not signing into my account on their TVs. This new streamer thing is a bit big to travel with.
Really disappointed to not see the UK getting either device yet, especially with Android market share bigger than in the US, we haven’t had a new thermostat since 2015 and no mention of when we can pre order the streamer
Can I tune the tempature of thermostat if I'm away from home. Basically can I control the temperature from my phone Instead of going to the thermostat every time manually???
Not a fan of the Google streamer, they are charging premium prices for mid-range performance. Not an apple guy but if you spend a little bit more the Apple TV is a much-much better bang for your buck
I would not get the streamer to replace the 2 Google TV dongles I have now. $99 is just way too high for not very much gain when a usb c dongle solves most of the problems.
What about the old Nest temperature sensors will they work with the new Nest Thermostat? I also don't like being forced to use the disgusting Google Home app when the Nest app is 100% better.
9 years to upgrade a product. 9 years! There was such a huge potential for Nest without Google buying them. Google should just stick with search. Period.
The way it powers itself w/o a C wire burned out our circuit board on our old HVAC. Given it got power by rapidly turning the system on and off, it broke that aspect of the board. Replacement board lasted long enough for us to replace all our HVAC and install a C wire but had to use Lennox's thermostat as Nest couldn't do the variable speed features.
@@cyprianskiba8768 It is the wire that provides constant power. Many older installs didn't include that (and other) wire. Basic thermostats didn't/don't need power and ones with LCD screens would use replaceable batteries. Without a C wire Nest gets power by turning the HVAC on and off rapidly for fractions of a second, a time so short that it gets bits of power but it isn't long enough for the system to start spinning up.
@@cyprianskiba8768 It provides voltage to the thermostat from your HVAC system so as long as your HVAC has power/is on, your thermostat can get power from it.
So is Google have locol control yet?!? Once again Google missed the mark with no thread... Oh yeah Gemini, the the thing you have to pay for... There is no reason to kill off Chromecast dongle...
Never say Google can't cancel something. They have nuked way too many things that I once used and loved. No Google for me. I do appreciate the overviews, though.
I just hope they add a screen reader to the nest thermostat for Visually impaired and blind users. They could dominate that market if they did. The fact they haven’t made it accessible yet is a real shame.
Sad they discontinue the Chromecast. Even with SmartTV's, I just use a Chromecast, because I don't want the TV vendor to sell what I watch, or bombard me with ads. Also, Chromecasts are supported waaaay longer than whatever app TV vendors ship. Kind of sad to see it go. The streamer is an alternative I guess, but comes at a price (and with unneeded functionality..)
Although my shield pro has been doing great it's so old and Nvidia won't be updating anytime soon with all that AI money. Would be great if Google or someone came in and made a premium device
I don't think the processor is what causes the sluggishness on the chromecast, I think its the absolutely insabe amount of ads they force it to constantly fetch. Even the Nvidia Shield has trouble handling them. I had to replace the launcher just to keep mine from choking while I was trying to launch an app
I hate all the damn nest smart functions. I can set my own damn schedule, and do not want it thinking it knows best. For example I am in another room, so it thinks nobody’s around and changes my temp settings. How annoying. Or the ridiculous home away. I leave to do some errands and it again messes with the temp settings, with my wife at home feeling uncomfortable. I turned off all this garbage. I would never buy one of these ever again. It looks cool, otherwise I would have trashed the piece of garbage
That's the point man lol. You disabled it, end of story. I disabled all that crap too, but the point of nest or else is not to have 100 apps to control your home. Stick to something. All manufacturers are going to have crappy features.
![[Sub Thai] APT. - ROSÉ & Bruno Mars](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bYjhzP8x_uc/mqdefault.jpg)
Would you get the Nest 4th gen or Google Streamer? Also, what do you think of when you hear the word "streamer"
Already pre-ordered the Streamer. I like that it's a bit faster, and can control other smart home things from the UI.
Interested in the thermostat. Streamer - not so much.
It remains to be seen how well the AI Integration into the Nest works and how adaptable it really is. Simply identifying a pattern of users switching temperature to 68 in summer (when it is 80+ outside for several weeks and folks are at home on weekend/Saturday) and then suggesting to switch to 68 (when it is now fall and outside temperature is a more comfortable 74 on weekends) might not be what all users might want? In short, is it simple pattern recognition or is the AI actually taking into consideration other weather related parameters/comfort factors.
As for the streamer CPU speed boost, Google seems to prioritize "planned obsolescence" - e.g. considering the upgrade roadmap for Google TV, this streamer should be viable for 'x years' down the road beyond which their devices become slow and unusable?
Skipping the Streamer. Going with a mini-PC instead. No limits on processors, memory or storage, or format support.
Reed: "google can’t kill the nest thermostat now"
Google: "hold my beer"
If Google wants any feedback, I hope you let them know that enthusiasts don't trust them not to kill an ecosystem anymore. They're always abandoning products and killing the cloud servers.
"Google can't kill it off"... Is that a challenge?
😂
Google is like hold my beer
@@dtbeachgoogles unofficial mascot is death's scythe
#mufasa
I'm switching to Apple because of what googles has killed off over the years. It got a little personal for me lol. I do like this thermostat though.
Google really missed the boat on the streamer. So much potential to release a superior option to the Shield and Apple TV and they release something that's barely an upgrade over the 4 year old Chromecast for double the price...
Huge miss not putting the latest S905X5 chipset in the streamer to bring it up to par with those other devices you mentioned, apparently it’s only using the same chipset as the 2021 Fire Stick Max so already obsolete, looked so promising with more storage, RAM & HDMI 2.1
Firm handshakes for that last clip 😂
I won't buy anymore Google hardware, they killed off the alarm system and my 2 Nest thermostats stoped working this week. I'M DONE WITH GOOGLE!
Same boat as you earlier this year. Had to invest in a whole new system cause Google was so quiet about the situation. Didn't trust it anymore.
SAME HERE. SCROOOGLE
As pretty and compelling as it is - I think I'm going to look at some other options when I upgrade. Google burned that bridge and I'm not wanting to take any additional chances with my home automation components.
The thermostat is appealing good ❤
Is ecobee coming out with a new thermostat?
I am wondering how this 4th gen Nest compares to the ecobee.
Think the old thermostat had thread but not open-thread to communicate with nest protects. I’d be willing to bet this one has thread but not open-thread too.
Loads of stuff was USA only in the old Nest range. I wonder which stuff will make it across to Europe.
Geeze plot twist at the end! 😂😂
The annoying thing with smart thermostats is not understanding comfort is a combination of humidity and temperature. I have as much confidence that AI solves this the way google thinks their updated streamer is a game changer. If it ever gets hot/uncomfortable, I just set the temperature 2 degrees lower, not set a specific temperature for the house; Big Consumer Tech seems not not understand this lol
i always had trouble with nest and my trane system with nest not turning on my aux heat in the winter time... switched to ecobee and no problems since, except for getting rid of developer keys.
Back in the day I've had a Nest doorbell. The app never knew if I was home or not. No problem for the doorbell. But I didn't dare to buy the thermostat. Bought a Tado.
Made the mistake of a Nest Doorbell and Thermostat combo, on top of the thermostat needing a paid API, it refuses to turn on the heat while hard-wired if the backup battery is not in place (why? It has the C Wire...). The doorbell apparently only uses the hard-wired connection to charge, but can't operate at the same time. The battery is prone to overheating (in the bay area winter of all places), which results in the device being offline often unless it is set to potato quality and short and useless event times.
@@TechDogeth my nest works perfectly and will upgrade to the latest one. I can’t relate to having no power and the battery overheating bc it never does.
Please could you make a dedicated updated video on the Gemini integrations coming to nest hardware. Sounds really interesting and I’d love to learn more about them!
Have Google missed an opportunity to do Matter over Thread considering the Google Streamer is a Thread router...? Ohhhh the Zigbeeee!
Home assistant home assistant *hip thrusting*
I left an apartment a couple years back that had a smart thermostat and it was life changing. Not having a major house feature appliance end up in the google graveyard is a plus. Just put Matter on every google device from here on out...
And yeah, Streamer is a terrible name. Chromecast "Anything" woulda been better. However, it's *lack* of power and features may justify the name... it just streams stuff, nothing done well natively.
Sounds like a fun trip! I’m excited to see what people think when they’ve had a chance to use them longer. I’m still team ecobee since the sensors do occupancy detection and averaging
I have a 3rd Gen Nest and I think I'll be going to Ecobee as my next thermostat.
That's funny. I have an Ecobee and I'll probably switch to a Nest. I loathe the Ecobee UI.
@@s-ptownsend8919 I'm sure both have pros and cons
What makes ecobee better? It seems like there are a lot of manual settings involved
I need some new nest hubs
I know, it’s been a long time and we need an update!
Maybe it's already EOL
I love my Nest now and this one is beautiful but damn that price.
Does it work with modulating, high-efficiency furnaces yet though? Being stuck with Lennox’s medieval thermostat sucks but it’s the only thermostat that works with a modulating furnace!
I had a Nest and I loved it. When I moved to my new house, it didn’t work with my HVAC system. I can’t remember why it didn’t work. I have an Echobee and it is ok.
I had a Google nest and it was so invasive I switched it out got the Honeywell T5 smart thermostat. Sorry Google I don't want to hand over total control to you.
They should have put a tensor at least in the next chronecast *
can you check if you can ask google "find my remote" instead of pressing the button on the "streamer"
and I'm pretty sure they will come out with a "pro streamer" soon
It is way 100% better than Normal Chromecast and Nest thermostats in the past.
Gemini: Talk to set up automation is going to be awesome.
Amazing how clueless google is to certain Home features and automations that Alexa app has but home does not
I think the Ethernet port on the streamer is a good idea, but it has followed the usual Google upgrade path where it is an incremental upgrade rather than a major upgrade.
I do like the new features of the new Nest Thermostat, but I don't think it's worth the upgrade over the previous model just yet. Improvements for sure, but like the streamer, it is more incremental than a major update.
It's disappointing but not surprising to hear they are discontinuing the Chromecast when the new Streamer comes out. People like things hidden, so they make something that needs to be out in the open, and ditch the thing that can be hidden. They should keep both products on the shelf but google probably know that if they did, most people wouldn't buy the streamer.
I just got one myself, and its ok, however there is no option to be able to adjust the brightness. Its so dim, going to be returning it.
Dang. I really like the look of that nest thermostat. Im starting from scratch.
Google streamer, yeah i might get this too, im on diy train and i find the content i want to watch most is on YT.
I look forward to your vids on these products.
Really surprised, amazon hasnt tried to improve twitch to have more YT capabilities or netflix purchase something to compete.
can the gold thermostat have a black background? in promo pics it shows a matching gold background. but id prefer black background for color contrast with the white numbers/letters
Hands-on Look at devices that will be EOL and unsupported without warning in the next 6-24 months.
LMAO
I wonder if the hysteresis values have been updated on this new nest gen. I'm tired of it waiting so long to kick on.
Finally early❤️ great video man! As always
Google graveyard 😂
I look forward to testing out the new google streamer. I plan on picking up one when its released in Australia and see what I think of it. But I am curious of mounting options for the new stream behind the tv as half the tv's in my house are wall mounted so have no table to place the streamer on. But I assume just like say a apple tv. Either google or the 3d printer world will come up with a self print holder for the streamer that might allow it to be held in place.
I'm not thrilled with my Nest E. Mostly software related. Basic features like setting actual hours for when to use a second temp sensor. It's just 4 options: Morning, Day, Evening and Night. Like how hard would it be to customize those hours? I'd also love to see my HVAC system usage on the same day! I shouldn't need to wait for the day to end to see usage. And it would be nice if it graphed the temp and humidity in my home throughout the day. That would be great to see historical data in the app! If it dies, I'll be switching to Ecobee. After all, it's a thermostat, and it does work fine as that. Just missing some basic features that I believe could have been added over the years I've had it
can I just plug the new puck/display into the current setup? or do I have to replace the heatlink as well? I've literally just had the new 3rd gen installed and LOVE the look of this new puck, but I'm reluctant to go and pay an engineer to install the setup again - but if I can just replace the puck/display, then that's not as bad.
Its soooo prettyyy. i want it. But im too far in the Ecobee ecosystem
Does the new Nest thermostat support modern heat pump systems?
Just got the nest but I feel like the screen is so dim and there is no way to increase the brightness. Makes no sense
Unrelated comment, but for visibility, can you please do an in depth video on how you setup your hsm200 multisensor in your various automations? I can’t find anything useful on the internet and I can’t seem to make my light turn red or set a color in the automatons. Just light on or off. Thanks
Do those Gemini created Automations require the internet to run, or can they just run as long as local Wi-Fi is active?
Anything which requires the internet to work is a deal-breaker for me
Ecobee is still the answer as this is more expensive and doesn't provide any benefits as it can be connected locally to home assistant via homekit integration for a lower price.
8:57 that's the Pixel Watch 3 👀
Can you make a video on how to install the new thermostat
Will the new room sensor work with 3rd generation models?
Should have upped the SOC specs
Glad that you touched on the new chromecast. The current one is so sluggish, I’m dubious than 22% faster is anywhere near enough for current expectation. Now that device is suppose to last us years ..
But yeah having a dongle these days is a hard question outside for few specific use case (ie moonshine) and they’re not making the software experience any better than tv.
Google has also this weird tendency of killing their product all the time which makes me nervous everytime I invest in their system
Thanks Reed.
When can we have Gemini make our automations?
It will first roll out to those that have the Public Preview on later this year.
I like all of these new devices but what Google needs to work on most is not killing devices. I'm an android user but I'm seriously thinking of switching over to Apple and homekit
Loved it❤
I bought 2 Nest 3rd gen a few months ago. dam!
Should I update from gen 2 thermostat
Hi, is Control4 integration ok with the new Nest Thermostat? Thanks in advance.
Can i use the thermostat with Apple Home?
Can the next video be a review of our ozone generator?
9:04 i didnt know you can control the TV with the watch 👁️👁️👁️ nice feature
You can't... That feature was leaked for the Pixel Watch 3 which appears to be it in the video.
I still use the original Chromecast when I travel. I can watch my shows on the hotel or Airbnb tv. I'm not signing into my account on their TVs. This new streamer thing is a bit big to travel with.
Does it support voice?
so its still lagging behind Ecobee by years.
Good video. Now that Alexa is going to charge a subscription, can you please make a video about free alternatives?? or if it’s worth it to just pay??
Thermostat gen 4 vs Ecobee?
Really disappointed to not see the UK getting either device yet, especially with Android market share bigger than in the US, we haven’t had a new thermostat since 2015 and no mention of when we can pre order the streamer
Can I tune the tempature of thermostat if I'm away from home. Basically can I control the temperature from my phone Instead of going to the thermostat every time manually???
Yes you can from the Google Home app, provided that the thermostat has a connection to the internet.
Or connected to the same network as your phone is if you're at home.
Not a fan of the Google streamer, they are charging premium prices for mid-range performance. Not an apple guy but if you spend a little bit more the Apple TV is a much-much better bang for your buck
I would not get the streamer to replace the 2 Google TV dongles I have now. $99 is just way too high for not very much gain when a usb c dongle solves most of the problems.
I love these videos
What about the old Nest temperature sensors will they work with the new Nest Thermostat? I also don't like being forced to use the disgusting Google Home app when the Nest app is 100% better.
The matter support is big
They killed off the Google home max... They can kill anything...
Good for people who want to use nest for some reason, but still not on ecobee's level.
9 years to upgrade a product.
9 years!
There was such a huge potential for Nest without Google buying them.
Google should just stick with search. Period.
just create the automations in home assistant!
As a HVAC service tech I would always have a c wire. Iv seen so many problems without it.
The way it powers itself w/o a C wire burned out our circuit board on our old HVAC. Given it got power by rapidly turning the system on and off, it broke that aspect of the board. Replacement board lasted long enough for us to replace all our HVAC and install a C wire but had to use Lennox's thermostat as Nest couldn't do the variable speed features.
What is a c wire?
@@cyprianskiba8768 It is the wire that provides constant power. Many older installs didn't include that (and other) wire. Basic thermostats didn't/don't need power and ones with LCD screens would use replaceable batteries. Without a C wire Nest gets power by turning the HVAC on and off rapidly for fractions of a second, a time so short that it gets bits of power but it isn't long enough for the system to start spinning up.
@@cyprianskiba8768 It provides voltage to the thermostat from your HVAC system so as long as your HVAC has power/is on, your thermostat can get power from it.
So is Google have locol control yet?!? Once again Google missed the mark with no thread...
Oh yeah Gemini, the the thing you have to pay for...
There is no reason to kill off Chromecast dongle...
It’ll be interesting to see where ai will go in the future
Still no Alexa to turn on the hot water then?
I'm done buying Google crap. They graveyarded some really useful products
Never say Google can't cancel something. They have nuked way too many things that I once used and loved. No Google for me. I do appreciate the overviews, though.
Now the walmart streamer looks even better at 20dls
What's that?
I don’t trust Google with my public information, much less my private data.
Hi! Do you handle editing yourself, or have you hired someone? I'm an editor and would be glad to discuss it if you’re interested.
Can't wait to get all of these and slowly see the software experience degrade over it's lifespan!
I just hope they add a screen reader to the nest thermostat for Visually impaired and blind users. They could dominate that market if they did. The fact they haven’t made it accessible yet is a real shame.
Roku had and has such button.
Sad they discontinue the Chromecast. Even with SmartTV's, I just use a Chromecast, because I don't want the TV vendor to sell what I watch, or bombard me with ads. Also, Chromecasts are supported waaaay longer than whatever app TV vendors ship. Kind of sad to see it go. The streamer is an alternative I guess, but comes at a price (and with unneeded functionality..)
Yeah I t’s strange they aren’t keeping the Chromecast around!
Although my shield pro has been doing great it's so old and Nvidia won't be updating anytime soon with all that AI money. Would be great if Google or someone came in and made a premium device
Scepter tvs are modern tvs without smart junk on it. I have yet to see a smart TV that either the remote or smart TV ui isn't total garbage.
I don't think the processor is what causes the sluggishness on the chromecast, I think its the absolutely insabe amount of ads they force it to constantly fetch. Even the Nvidia Shield has trouble handling them. I had to replace the launcher just to keep mine from choking while I was trying to launch an app
REMOTE?? i use my smart device
crazy my ercobee does all of this lol
I hate all the damn nest smart functions. I can set my own damn schedule, and do not want it thinking it knows best. For example I am in another room, so it thinks nobody’s around and changes my temp settings. How annoying. Or the ridiculous home away. I leave to do some errands and it again messes with the temp settings, with my wife at home feeling uncomfortable. I turned off all this garbage. I would never buy one of these ever again. It looks cool, otherwise I would have trashed the piece of garbage
That's the point man lol. You disabled it, end of story. I disabled all that crap too, but the point of nest or else is not to have 100 apps to control your home. Stick to something. All manufacturers are going to have crappy features.
AI doesn't exist yet. Stop saying AI! What you're referring to is a learning algorithm. It's basically just a search engine.
Streamer in 2024? There is only one. Nvidia shield. And now everybody got a smart tv. Unnessory. O, and must give it a spot in sight.