Compare Three Generations of Panasonic Eneloop Chargers BQ-CC55, BQ-CC17
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- Quick comparison of 3 generations of Sanyo/Panasonic Eneloop Chargers. From left to right (newest to oldest): Panasonic BQ-CC55, Panasonic BQ-CC17 and Sanyo NC-MQN06U.
BQ-CC55 is the best bang for the buck, you can get them for fairly cheap on eBay . It charges 3-4 AA batteries in 4 Hours, and 1-2 AA batteries in 2 Hours.
Check Amazon for retail pricing: amzn.to/2ieqjRI
BQ-CC17 is what came with most combo deals now days that includes battery packs. It can charge each battery individually. But charging time is pretty slow. it is able to charge 1-4 AA batteries in 9 Hours.
Check Amazon for combo deal retail pricing: amzn.to/2iEJcQX
NC-MQN06U is the original Sanyo eneloop charger. It is the oldest of the pack, it can only charge batteries in pairs. It can not charge 1 or 3 batteries (one of them won't get charged). Charging time for 2 or 4 AA batteries is about 10 Hours.
If you are looking for a performance charger, the BQ-CC55 is a winner.
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Here is some real info for people that need it. There is a lot more of a difference than what he said.
First, the NC-MQN06U model is, as he said, where you need to charge them in pairs.. This is because it is what you call, a "dumb" charger. A dumb charger is just that. No sensors.. You put the batteries in, it charges for a certain length of time, and then shuts off. The problem with this is, say it is trying to charge for 4 hours at 500ma.. That comes up to 2000 mah that it is trying to charge into the battery. If the battery is dead, and is a 2000 mah battery, then there is no problem. But what if the battery is 75% full? That means that it is trying to put 2000 mah of power into a battery that can only accept 500 mah of power.. That extra 1500 mah of power is being forced into the battery, and slowing destroying it. On the other hand, if you have a high capacity battery that holds 2500 mah of power, and it is dead, that means that it is only charging 2000 out of 2500 may of power, or, only 80% full when it shuts off.
The BQ-CC17 model fixes this problem and the problem of having to charge them in pairs. It has a sensor in it that tells the charger when the battery is full. It will NOT shut off until it detects that the battery is full too. This means, it does not matter how full the battery is, if it is a high capacity or low capacity one, it will charge all of them until they are full, and then shut off so that it does not damage the battery. This charger charges at 300ma, or 0.3a, when charging 4 batteries at a time. Why I mention this is because, that is the MAX output that the charger can put out for that battery size, when charging 4 batteries. I do not know if this charger will do it, but some chargers will charge at say, 300ma when 4 batteries are put in, but, if only 2 are put in, it uses the extra power not used in the other 2 slots to charge the batteries faster.. So it may charge them at 500ma instead of 300. As I stated, I do not know if this charger does that, but, some do.
The BQ-CC55 charger is the same as the cc17 charger. It is still a smart charger, so it will not overcharge the batteries, but, it charges them at 750ma each, per battery, when 4 batteries are put in. Doing some research, I found that this charger does use that extra power from the open slots, when only 2 batteries are put in, and charged.. this means, it can charge the batteries of well over 1000ma, or 1 amp, when charging just 2 batteries. The problem with this type of charger is, while it is nice that it charges the batteries faster, this also means it generates a lot more heat. The extra heat will damage the battery, and reduce it life span, just like overcharging it will. If you need them "now", then this is the only option to get them charged.. But, it is not the best way to charge them..
The best way to get full life out of a battery is to, first, use a smart charger, like the last 2 chargers in this list. Second, try to use a charger that will charge around 300 to 500 mah, or up to 0.5 amps, per battery, as that is the best area to charge a battery, without doing any damage to it. Doing this rate, will also reduce the heat that the battery generates too, which is good. Remember, while the package says, will charge up to 2100 times.. Those numbers are "optimal" charging conditions.. If you use quick chargers as your primary source, or even dumb chargers (that do over charge the battery), that number of charges can drop in half very easily.
As for the dumb chargers.. They do have their good points.. For example, some smart chargers will not charge a battery if the voltage is too low. With a battery like that, you can put it in a dumb charger for a little while, get some voltage into the battery, so that the smart charger will notice that it is there. Note that not all smart chargers are equal, and some will detect the battery, even if it is dead.. while others need some kind of voltage in them to see that it is there. I do not know what kind either of these smart chargers are.
As for this review.. While I will not say it is the worst thing I have ever seen, it was just useless in my opinion. "The only difference is that you can charge one at a time instead of two.." Really?? Uh, NO.. Not even close.. For a video that was over 9 minutes long, I got about 4 seconds of info out of it in the first 5 1/2 minutes.. I got tired of wasting my time and stopped it there.. I hope this info helps, and clarifies things better for someone..
comment better then the video lol
Thank you sir , your comment helped me a lot to understand the battery charger types.
Thanks for the comment. *saved*
The kind of info I need. Many thanks
Thank you .. :)
6 years later this video is still very useful,thanks!
Thanks! I think I'm going for the BQ-CC17, don't need the fast charging so that's fine for me.
Very useful information. Thank you Li.
Hi, Hope you would give me some advise, I am currently having an old Sanyo NC-MQR03RU silver colour charger. I am thinking of purchasing the Newer Panasonic eneloop PRO Battery. Can I use the old sanyo charger to charge the panasonic battery correctly? A seller told me cannnot as its old and different brand. Do advise soon if you happen to read my comment thanks.
CC75 which generation is that? is it ok to use other brand of rechargeable battery in eneloop chargers?
The b q cc17 just wondering if other rechargeable nimh batterys like Duracell power x that have a 2000 2400 or 2700 mah would they work in that eneloop charger, as I do have thoses other batterys but I do like using the eneloop batterys because they do last longer than all the other nimh I have tried, The reason why I am thinking of buying the bqcc17 is that my powerx charger no longer works for me & its better to have a charger that slower to charge up the batterys because the batterys should last a little bit more years before they die out. My power x charger was too fast in chargering up my batterys and I only got like 3 years of use out of my batterys.
That's weird my BQ-CC17 is white not black. It came in a blue carrying case along with 8 double AA's, 2 triple AAA's and C and D adapters to turn a AA battery into a C or D battery. Granted the AA's won't last long in a C or D device.
i have the CC55 version it says you need to charge until all LEDS are off after green but i'm worried because it becomes very hot will it not blow up? i only tested it once until it turns off
All my chargers and battery gets super hot during charging. Once charging is almost complete they cool down, so I think it's normal.
1. Does Anybody knows what a blinking Green Light means on the BQ-CC17 charger? It gives me that for some AAA eneloops I have [it did charge them to some point]
2. Does Anybody know of any legit 3rd Party Eneloop charger that charges like 8 batteries at once if not more? And that is safe for the batteries?
hello! i also have the bq cc55 battery charger, i successfully charge my batteries only thrice or twice. after that, i tried to use the charger again maybe almost a year ago because i do not use the battery that much when using my camera that is why i believe that the charger should not have any malfunction at all. it also is being kept inside my camera bag so i'm sure that the charger is safe. The LED indicator is not lighting anymore, does it mean that the charger is broken or will not function anymore?thank you!
i would suggest you to get a fresh pair of re-chargable eneloop type battery and put in charger to test, if the light still does not come on, then it's the charger, but if the light comes on with fresh batteries, then it's the batteries that went bad. Good luck!
Thank u for the information
Realy helpfull
My model is BQ-CC51, how different is mine to the CC55
CC65 is also out, it has a nice LCD, you should also have a look
thank you for the info!
This is a good charger, when it works. It's FAR too critical of other cells and slightly older cells. My CC17 charges anything without a hitch, the CC55 does not. Very finicky.
Plus the slower charge from the CC17 extends the life of the eneloops. The quick charge from CC55 comes at a hidden cost, it reduces overall battery life. Plan ahead and charge slow to optimize battery life!
Just replaced my OG charger and 4 out of 8 still functional batteries 14 years later with a White CC-17 charger and new batteries.
Think the black CC-17 is for those packages with Pro batteries and I didn't need a fast charger, being I don't think fast charging is ever good.
Can I charge AA 700mah NiCd batteries on a BQ-CC55?
No they are not designed for Nicd batteries
hey! can this be plugged to 220v? thanks!
hangon2u yes
yes, these chargers unless USB operated, are 110/220V mains chargers
Hi, Li Fan! Very great video and information you just shared. Keep up the good work here! Godspeed!
very use full thank u
Welcome 😊
Does the cc17 let you know if there is an issue with the batttery
Most definitely. To ensure safety, the CC17 charger has built-in battery sensing technology that will automatically stop the charging process, if a non-rechargeable battery is inserted into the unit. The charger will also stop charging if batteries become overheated during the charging process.
Li Fan will the second model (55) also notify me if a battery goes bad
@@jewfro888 If battery is malfunctioning all the chargers here just won't charge to avoid the danger of overheating, so yes the 55 should also have temperature safety feature.
Does it tell you when its done charging?
Yes, all chargers tells you when they are done charging. Either all lights go out, or all lights shows green when fully charged.
Li Fan thank you
cool info
Great video is the one you recommend 1900 mah battery there's so many different ones in the UK thanks in advance
I wonder if charging for 9 hours costs more money than just buying fresh new alkeline batteries. Electricity-bill-wise...
Is it normal for those chargers to make a ticking sound while charging?
Ya I can hear them in a lot of chargers. It's normal
@@TheGizmoGarage thanks, bought one and was a bit scared
Do you think that possibly the Black charger is meant to take longer so as to fill the pro battery with more current, where as the white charger is meant for the white batteries and stops or caps the current being filled up into them at a lower level to match those batteries. Meaning the black charger takes longer but actually fully charges the black pro batteries all the way up to tip top levels. Whereas the White charged will top up the white batteries however the black ones it will in reality not ever do so. It will only charge the black batteries to a fill line equivalent to what it fills the white batteries up to. Many charges may charge the black batteries , however they will be capped to what those charges are meant to charge their respective batteries up to. Do you get more life form black batteries charged in black charger versus black batteries charged in other white charger or a charger by any other company ?
Richard DePaulo That's not the way these work. These are "smart" chargers. They can detect how full a battery is and stop charging at the appropriate time.
The only difference between these two chargers is how fast they are. Studies have shown the faster charging will heat up the batteries more and slightly decrease thier lifespan. I personally stick with the CC-17 because of that. After much research, I am of the opinion the CC-17 is the best charger and the Eneloop Pros are the best batteries.
Jas ThePeach can i charge eneloop pro batteries on the cc51(white charge) which is the basic one that i know.
thanks for the vid
Thanks for making this video .. :)
I have many chargers including both of the white ones here. I don't trust the new CC55 charger with anything other than eneloop batteries. Many batteries that are not eneloops get VERY hot in that charger like it's not sensing something properly.
Same situation for me. Energizer or Everready get too hot to touch. Eneloops stay cool through the entire charging cycle.
Plus the slower charge from the CC17 extends the life of the eneloops. The quick charge from CC55 comes at a hidden cost, it reduces overall battery life. Plan ahead and charge slow to optimize battery life!
How do you compare without even plug in the other two. More like a promo than compare.
actually sanyo chargers have always been good, no promo needed for anybody who knows and uses batteries regularly and people who don't use them then they won't need this video anyway
is BQ-CC55 charger good, and quality ?
I always try to use any Japanese product because these are comparatively more reliable then some lower quality products available in the market.
Japanese all products comparatively has higher quality, higher performance and has long life with very lower problem.
Some Japanese products which are produce in different country's genuine factory with monitoring of Japan also has a premium quality.
I always have get fun to use Japanese products.
I love this Japanese charger & I have all this charger.
Thanks for this video
Charger is made in china. Only batteries are made in japan
Thanks for the info, don't worry about the complainers.
I bought the BQ-CC55 and I think I made a great purchase.. And I remember that the colored LEDs separately for each battery was the reason I got that one.. 😀
3 years in usage with Zero issues..
Sir can it charge only one battery?
Or need a pair?
Can't believe the charges don't have USB cables and you have to plug into a wall .. ridiculous
It's been 7 years since this video was made, I'm sure they've had replacement models coming out potentially with USB cables.
Better preparation and you could have said all of this in about 3 mins!
What are you going to achieve in 4 more minutes we must better thank him for his efforts ☺️
This is a 9 minute video giving us about 30 seconds worth of useful information.
Why spend nearly half of the video talking about a charger that they stopped making nearly ten years back? WHy spend so much time fumbling with the batteries showing us that a battery goes into the battery slot? Wasn't that kind of a given? Do
Do we really need to know the model number of the charger that was discontinued a lifetime ago?
If you're going to give us facts about each unit, know these facts in advance. Don't ask us to sit by while you double check the info.
I appreciate the opportunity to compare the chargers but try to be more efficient in your presentation.
Why writing a stupid comment?
Some people might still have that charger and it's interesting therefore to be able to compare.
G810 Club :D
Paúl Caballero it's a G610 :)
I'm sure you know already but if not - research protected batteries.
Your dead battery is not dead - it's turned off and there is a simple fix.