Like I told my wife, “ Unless the Holy Ghost shows us something, we don’t know nothing.” We are totally helpless without His supernatural enlightenment.
So very true.... Elisha said, the Lord hid it from me. We only know if we are told... We are so vulnerable without the Holy Spirit. It is indeed by the mercy of the Lord that we are not consumed...
Everybody needs to take a DEEP BREATH and heed the warning from Matthew chapter 24 verse 10 about the trying times we are going through. People are beginning to betray one another over issues, and we can't allow that to overtake the body of Christ. Chris has a point, Rick has a point, but going to war against each other CAN NOT be the way the body of Christ handles these issues. This is just round one, folks, get it together.
Rick - you have an amazing heart of our Heavenly Father to embrace the wrong doers with great patience and until the end . Also you have blessed the body of Christ with your many books and teachings by being obedient to the Lord. Now It is my great desire and prayer that you will reap those many goodness that you have been sawn to the extent that you have never ever imagined in this time of your and Morning Star church’s need! God bless you and all yours richly! With a lot of ❤ to you and all your family members!
I so appreciate your transparency, and this seems to be such a rare commodity nowadays in the church worldwide...I've been following you for more than 20 years and your ministry, through books and everything,second to the Bible, have shaped me into what I am today more than any other book or ministry! Whenever I would lose my vision and be in confusion, I would always find my way back after reading one of your books or watching one of your materials ...I owe you a lot and my prayer is with you in such a time as this. Let's stay close to the Lord to get us through these better and stronger💗
Harm to children is never to be minimized. Harm and gaslighting to control others is equally abuse. There’s a tremendous need for MS to have a better accountability system for ALL leaders. No worship of the gifted, the most powerful etc.
Praying for you Rick, God is just realigning and helping us to see what we still need towork on to be effective in what He wants to use us for next! Always teaching us! Remember what you say as long as we are moving He can turn the 🚢!
I am a fellow minister of the Gospel and I am praying for you and having my subscribers pray for you (did a video about this calling for unity but bastsh upon what the Lord every me do but I have also shared this on my community tab, asking others to pray). God bless you, Rick! 9:32
This morning I prayed from London, UK, for Rick and Chris to make peace for the sake of unity in Christ, which we preach. Each one of them spilling their emotions online is very anti-Christ. Get on brothers for the sake of yourselves, your wives your friends and families and for the sake of Christ. Wasting God's time on TH-cam and other platforms defending your viewpoints, regretting actions taken, your errors in judgement in the past is achieving countless zeros for the KINGDOM of GOD. Mistakes were made that were covered up but from his heart of mercy, Almighty God has uncovered them and their sister sins that led to children's SA and trauma. If Chris and his wife were sexually abused as kids, why as an adult was he involved out of wedlock with a younger woman? It's the same sin, Jesus said even to look at a woman and lust after her- which he did. IF he has issues with authority, shame, rejection which is why he's ready to launch a new church, God's rod/staff will lead him back to the place of submission and total healing of the cause. Please Rick, as a father of faith for many, as a man who has been treasured by Jesus enough to sit with him in his garden, what is the LORD saying to you now from the inner most place where you have walked before? Are you obeying that instantly the way you've done in the past? He loves you and loves Chris, so best for you both to send posts of encouragement, why to vote for the right person (not party) for president of the US. You both have prophetic insight and voice that Satan wants to cloud so the body of Yeshua suffers for the next 4 years if America votes wrong like in the past election. Help bring healing to Christ's body- do you know how many people you are both leading to sin as you and Chris pour your individual rants online? Most times its difficult to watch an entire clip!! Use the space and God's time to bring sinners to Christ and the rest of the time talking to God about your pain, your thoughts and your brother who has branched off. Call Chris and go for a coffee or a motorbike ride and let the living waters issuing from the sanctuary heal both your hearts from hurt. If one of you went home first, would the other refuse to greet him because this is unresolved? Is heaven ready for either of you/are you always ready for a quick trip home if the trump sounds? For what each has worked in fellowship with Christ, Satan will turn to hay if you both do not sort this. Even the earth and its fulness belongs to the Lord- that includes you and Chris and all of us waking up to a new, "me wronged-me right" clip. We are watching, Satan is watching and clapping as we get negatively affected. Be the testimony of Jesus' boundless love, e.g. like when you appointed Chris as CEO/President. Be Yahweh's tangible mercy and grace by imitating Christ who forgave Peter and the entire Jewish nation that "did not know what they were doing". Psalm 51, RESOLVE THIS. God bless you.
I feel deeply for Rick. Because I know what God saved me from, I tend to be merciful and see the POTENTIAL in people. But sadly, many will never never rise to their potential. I know Rick is very merciful.
Rick, I have listened to the ministry at Morningstar for several years. I'm an elder woman, with a watchwoman call to serve. Just to say to you, BE ENCOURAGED IN CHRIST, as David encouraged himself while he was being chased by Saul. Satan has loosed his demons on the true Saints! Hold Fast to all the Christ has given you, Stand Firm!! Do Not turn to right or left!! Much prayers!!!❤
Thank you for your transparency. I received the warning and advised my Church with suggestions on how to proceed to Protect our Youth and Children. I absolutely agree with the shaking of the Lord and the need to deepen our relationships with Him and enquire of Him. I Honour your courage in transparency and honest assessments. This can only better the Church for those who have ears to hear. Thank you Rick.
I actually had a dream about it on June 20. But I as well as those I shared it with misinterpreted it because we didn't see any possibility of Chris leaving. Sometimes, sentiment clouds our interpretation.
Glad to hear your rant ! I know all your volunteers will be extremely vetted spiritually, now, like your staff. Hire true watchman prophets. I am praying for help for dear Morningstar. I love your transparency and pure heart towards God and us.
I feel deeply for Rick. Because I know what God saved me from, I tend to be merciful and see the POTENTIAL in people. But sadly, many will never never rise to their potential. I know Rick is very merciful. Thank you Rick for doing this rant. The Lord has had you in my heart. I honor you and pray for your strength and Morningstar. My mom has GREAT discerning skills. Some of the best. But it is rough. Because people do not often believe her. And she is not always liked. But I agree. And Bob was amazing.
Thanks for keeping the comments open for the community. I pray people can be positive and encourage through prayer and not tear down. I wish others would do the same.
Appreciate your sharing regarding the difficulties you've been going through in life and ministry . Yes how we need one another. May the Lord raise up the right people for help and support..The Lord is so good...He is dealing with all of us in His goodness. ..
I would like to hear more about how Chris Reed and Rick Joyner were not in agreement over things, though I don't need to know the details. All I seem to get is about how Chris left the sheep, being a coward and such things, but what good does it do to paint a man with that kind of brush? Were there some real differences between them? I would rather just hear about how one had a vision, a way, a direction, and about how another didn't agree with it. If all I hear is Rick branding a man as a coward, and that's all I get, I might start to think that's a bit manipulative, worldly, and carnal. and a way of causing some kind of mirage, some smoke and mirrors or something, and I might be more inclined to believe the things Chris was saying as well as what was shared in an electronic message, something one repented of later. May the Lord knock off a few barnacles off of Rick's ship. I'd like to see things speed up a bit. Why nuke Chris like that? I don't think that's the right answer. There must be some kind of real substance to it all and not just being a coward who leaves the sheep, though I don't need to know exactly what that real substance was. I believe it had to be something.
Thank you Rick. We are standing with you and will not be moved as we stand together! On our knees in prayer, sword in one hand and repairing the broken walls to fortify our city and rebuild the Temple of the Lord 🙏❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
Some questions... 1. Why was Chris R allowed to begin before he completed rehabilitation? 2) Why did you all allowed the snake Julie Roys to question you guys? Do you know she is a wolf in sheeps clothing? 3) Why you don't know how to divide between spiritual stuff and natural stuff? You mix both up and everything gets messy. Shifting between spiritual and natural shows manipulation and control. 4) There is nothing wrong with Chris Reed. Ppl conspired against him. The lady forgave him. Why was what happened to him leaked when he resigned?!
Seems chris reed was set up to take the fall for this (the lawsuits) by making him ceo in 2021 (even though he knew chris's issue with the student (chris had already went through supposed restoration)). Rick stepped down and that volunteer was let go by morningstar because of the minor sexual abuse accusations (they did not tell chris about any of that). Then when chris found out about the lawsuits coming he stepped down immediately and surprisingly enough his 2021 inappropriate relationship miraculously came to light (probably not an accident) in a possible attempt to make chris reed the story in hopes to have that over shadow the lawsuits. Just seems sus...! He is also attacking people who dare to suggest that he be accountable. Lol 😅
Such a humble message. Resonates with me as well! The supernatural and His glory are there even more when we work with one another and humble ourselves under the mighty hand of God.
Praying for protection of the ministry staff from tactics of the enemy to embarrass the church these last days This is a indication that we need to intercede for ministries
Chris said you just texted back “thanks” when he reached out and said that he loved you. If that’s true, that seems pretty cold in that you are a spiritual father to him and being the more mature one, I would have thought/hoped you would have responded with love.
I know after all the disgraceful things said from Chris and actions. And when Chris ( married ) and Kathrine confessed the affair they had they didn’t tell the full truth. Rick didn’t know the true story till recently. Chris is so hurt Rick didn’t say I Love you too? Rick is left with all this mess now . Rick is really nice I would have said ………
yea, I’m afraid MS hiring Chris and not letting him in on the S-A. That’s BS. Chris did not know this when he was hired. Sorry, that kind of crap doesn’t fly anymore.
I am really sorry to hear this about morning star ministries...God will see you thru this battle. I have followed Rick for many years thru his books and later sermons and I have no doubt that he is a true messenger of God. Thank you for the books; stand strong and let God.
I agree with so much what you have said Rick! I too have understood that I haven't simply asked the Lord more questions. We need to turn to Him for everything especially now in the time we are living in!
AMEN, RICK. KEEP ON KEEPING ON FOR OUR LORD, JESUS! WE DO NEED EACH OTHER AND MUCH PRAYER, WITH REPENTANCE EVERY DAY!! Much warfare going on because we're close to the end!
The Lord loves MorningStar. You have many unseen intercessors and watchmen that have been interceding on your behalf for years. People who don’t want a position out front. People who don’t care about making a name for themselves. We first have to place value in people. Then, we must PULL from that value in order to utilize their strengths to support our weaknesses. The Lord ALWAYS provides a solution. He’s brilliant like that.
You must understand, people will be very different because of who you are. They will act with you, as a well known author, leader, etc. completely different from people under you. I have seen this in every area of business and life. Be AWARE!
Rick, I just want to say I love you and trust you. Like you said, you probably need someone else to discern the character of the "trees." Don't let the devil bury you in regret. You have permission to forgive yourself.
Love and support you Rick, perhaps you can find someone to walk along side you that has the gift of discernment! Just sayin.. Definitely trust your motives and your love for the Lord. Thank you for your humility and perseverance. That will get us over the finish line 🙌
Dear brother Rick, I watched your video and heard about what you are going through. I want to comment on what you said here, and I pray this will be a great comforting word for you. This is one of the aspects of the prophetic-comforting with truth! You kept mentioning and blaming yourself a lot for NOT SEEING it coming, and you recalled Bob Jones, saying you felt safer with him because he delivered many words of warning and revelations to you. What you said is so good, and it is always good to press in for more discernment, to watch spiritually, and to read things through the eyes of God. But at the same time, I felt the Holy Spirit remind me of this as I watched you: Jesus, the Son of God, after a long night of prayer, CHOSE Judas because the Father told Him to do that. Whether Jesus fully discerned the betrayal at once upon choosing Judas or later on doesn’t matter because God turned everything for good. You are never dumb when you obey God! Rick, even if you were fully aware and omniscient (you can’t be), you still couldn’t protect your emotions and the flock from bad things because love is vulnerable. Your peace should remain in the fact that, at the moment of dedicating authority to Chris years ago, you were in God’s perfect will and you felt peace about it. And for that, God will reward you! Yes, it is a hard time because when one organ hurts, the whole body joins. I understand why you are pressing in for this call to reach a higher level of discernment, which is good, but it also feels imbalanced. You want God’s protection, yet you can still face pain with peace, even when navigating hurt. God is your protector and not your discernment necessarily! Why did God allow Jesus to choose Judas to be on His ministry team? Maybe because Judas needed that closeness as an expression of God’s abounding grace and the great opportunities He gave before Judas experienced the greatest separation. Jesus even called him a friend when he was kissed for betrayal. Jesus till the very end wanted to awaken and restore Judas by asking him, what is this you are doing, friend? Love never fails. Rick and all keep your eyes on Jesus and teach people that when we live in a family, especially God’s family, we will sharpen each other, and sometimes do awful things to one another. YET, never withdraw love. Trust the Lord, run to His arms, be healed, and come back fired up again to continue serving! God bless you, Tony Francis
I am very sorry about the things you have to deal with recently. but also hope you know that you are representing the example of Jesus Christ carrying the cross. That is phenomenal more than any other gifts. I believe heaven will witness how you walk through these trials. Dear old man of God you are the darling of Abba Father you are pleasing Him with all these trials and hardships. thank you with all my heart for standing for the truth.
To see clearly, its not about desiring gifts, its about dying to everything, being purified by holy fire and willing to give everything and lay everything on the altar for Jesus. We cant hear his voice until we are willing to hear what he says and be obedient no matter what the cost. Ask what is in our hearts that prevents us from hearing. What biases do we have? I can hear now and see what my master says like never before if I stay yeilded and humble, but I lost my job, my friends, my reputation, money for a time in a refiners fire but he restores. Im willing to lose anything, but Gods prescence and the secret place and bring a friend of God is more important to me than anything. Thats when I started seeing. Thats when he started sharing secrets. We need to ask God to give us his heart and his perspective, to break our heart for what breaks his. We need to crucify our flesh and really be open. Its as he wills, anything that is revealed. We need to not be decieved by seducing spirits and yes we need watchman, but theres a price and its not comfortable to be a warrior and watchman on the wall. To be awakened in the night, to carry bad news, to be travailing for our nation and souls. Lol
6:50 A child is anyone under the age of 18. Its time for church leaders to accept responsibility for appropriate stewardship over all children on premise. Please train your staff on how to spot Predators
I'm glad to see you know you need to listen to those who have gifts you don't have or aren't operating in at the moment. Let me point out God does send warnings but He might send them through people who in the natural you would lightly esteem. God can speak to a janitor as well or even better than many leaders.I was blessed to hear God both times I visited Morningstar but it was in unexpected ways and through unexpected people. I have also learned from watching this whole scenario play out that we must follow the Spirit and not just a spiritual principle. Yes, restoration is Biblical in general but there are other principles involved such as who is qualified to hold Scriptural leadership. I truly do not believe putting Chris in in the first place was wisdom but it could be that God orchestrated this whole thing and let it play out to teach the Body things it refused to learn any other way.
A true watchman is not afraid of any man nor to confront any thing evil!! A true watchman sees afar off in what’s coming at the camp. The trees and forest are one in the same. True prophetic intercessors must be respected in what they see and hear. Test the spirits for sure and do fastings!! It’s those grandmas and grandpas that are hidden and praying that others need be mindful of when they speak. I’ve been praying along with others for our nation and states.
Seems that Chris was placed in a position that he wasn’t anointed, gifted, or ready for, maybe prophet and caring pastor don’t generally go together. Rick, I sure wish you wouldn’t throw Chris under the bus.
Lee wasn't "just a volunteer." HE WAS THE LEADER of that group. More than one parent tried to report the abuse and they got silenced by your team. None of you can tell the truth. What a sick, sick mess.
I feel the same but she didn’t spill the truth at first to Rick he didn’t know the full story till later. But I saw her video exposing it all she took it as a Champ for sure she’s a great woman of God.
The sad part is that when these things occur, it opens up a door for the enemy to come in like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. The enemy is the accuser of the brethren so there will always be added accusation as a fruit of sinful action
Rick, the recent TH-cam videos about Morningstar events are shining light on one area: "Ministry focus people." It is sickening to see. "Ministry" This is appallingly to stewards.
I'm wondering how so many churches full of people moving in the prophetic can't see this. God stirred up some prophetic, discernment and seer/feeler gifts in me and man there's been 4 big names fall in the past year and I had icky feelings and a troubled spirit about all 4 of them for years. God has made me a watchman, and I have even brought warnings regarding an individual to church leadership when two other prophetic people saw exactly what I saw and brought it forward about witchcraft and Jezebel spirits trying to take down the move of spirit at our church through a person. None of us had communicated with each other and only one of us knew the lady that was highlighted by the holy spirit, but God was exposing and warning. No one listened to us and nothing was done. There was even evidence on the person's social media that they were heavy into new age and she is still leader at church and on prayer team.
Erickson Lee is the son of your long term security guard. You're actually not being very honest with the people when you just say he was just a "volunteer". That man grew up in your church. Could he have been a victim of Todd Bentley?? Predatory behavior usually occurs from those who were themselves abused. At the very least he had insider knowledge about Todd Bentley, seeing as how he was the son of your long term security guard....
C'mon you and Chris are milking this for clicks, likes and followers. Let it go already. Enough of the smarmy antics please. Where is Jesus in all this? Same message will be posted to Chris Reed.
I get your point, but good luck trying to comment on Chris Reed's posts lol. He's not allowing comments from what I saw. These folks need to quit going after each other and set the example of how to get through this together. We are heading into Matthew chapter 24 verse 10 territory with all of this betraying and turning on one another. These guys need to take the lead on this issue, work this out, and set the proper example for these difficult and trying days we are in right now.
I don't think we should take the attitude that we did everything right and didn't fall short in any way, and that these things will continue to happen because we did the best we could have and so we can't even hope they never happen again because we did that too and it still happened. I would rather look for a better answer than that, just sayin'.
Rick, you are a good man, a good servant of God. I have no trouble trusting you. Chris Reed had his problems, and he is still making some judgmental errors because he has not received the experience and level of maturity that you have. So, I believe he is tremendously gifted in the prophetic and will make great contributions to the Church of the Lord in the days to come. So, have mercy on the young man.
One of the things that is telling to me is that you leave comments turned on. Those who turn them off I don’t trust. It means they can’t handle contrary positions!!
True, I’ll give him that as long as he doesn’t delete the comments that ask hard questions or point out uncomfortable truths contrary to the damage control he is trying to do.
Agreed! It shows a lot. I don’t trust that C guy one bit never could. It’s something through my life every minister I felt that way about I mean I couldn’t even stomach listening to them. Later most the time years later I would hear something horrible they did. Or one day I just can’t watch them anymore then I find out that’s when they fell into sin. First one was Jimmy Swaggert
I appreciate your humble approach to this situation, and for accepting responsibility for where you missed it. We wish we could err on the side of grace, and everything work out, but this isn’t always the case.
11:20 p.m.EST I don't see Rick accepting responsibility & move on when he cannot give forgiveness in the way he has spoken & actions to the hateful things he has done around Chris. He is saying the words, but my Spirit does not see it true from his heart. Rick is still deflecting.
I agree with you 100% I've tried not to be critical but my spirit is hearing the words but I don't think it's in his heart. whenever Rick wants to make a point he uses scriptures and speaks on how he has these great gifts of discernment but when it comes to anything with this lawsuit or Chris he "just never saw it coming" or "just missed it" he has a "blind spot"
God bless you Pastor Rick. In humility I submit, that it is better to raise a home grown leader to take over your ministry. Hirelings, opportunitists and self preservers will ditch ship at the first sign of a storm. The Lord will strengthen you. Do not shy from asking the Lord to give you both, the insight into trees AND the forest in this new season. Shana tova!
Pastor Dana Coverstone had a dream some time back & the Lord was telling Christian’s to pray for astute discernment. So some of us have been praying about that, & u r Right we need all the gifts of the Spirit & the 5 fold ministry to have the Holy Spirit of Truth to lead us into ALL TRUTH & settle disputes Re: sound doctrine where the body of Christ is so divided on far too many matters where we are 180 degrees out from teaching on the very same subject, & the very same prophecy, & so the saints are confused - & how can we make disciples that are going to be unified rather than fighting one another over what is sound doctrine & what is unsound?? And i mean Christian’s are divided over whether we should celebrate Christmas. As well as OSAS, & the cessationists, & the rapture etc etc - O Dear Heavenly Father Pls help us Pls. Thank U. IJN Amen
I think the tendency of worldly lawyers is to throw everything at somebody and hope to find something that sticks. Does anyone in law enforcement, or prosecution ever apologize for overcharging someone? Maybe it happens I don't know, but maybe not, maybe not so much anyway.
I find it intresting spiritual growth can come out of the plans of the enemy if we keep our eyes on His word. God is in control we are not then we realize our dependance on the father and it changes us from the inside out if we do not give up.
So sorry about all the junk happening at Morningstar. Considering all the flak that you receive, I'd say that you are definitely over the target. Very true about King David needing the help of other prophets. I had not really thought of that.
Like I told my wife, “ Unless the Holy Ghost shows us something, we don’t know nothing.” We are totally helpless without His supernatural enlightenment.
So very true.... Elisha said, the Lord hid it from me. We only know if we are told... We are so vulnerable without the Holy Spirit. It is indeed by the mercy of the Lord that we are not consumed...
Everybody needs to take a DEEP BREATH and heed the warning from Matthew chapter 24 verse 10 about the trying times we are going through. People are beginning to betray one another over issues, and we can't allow that to overtake the body of Christ. Chris has a point, Rick has a point, but going to war against each other CAN NOT be the way the body of Christ handles these issues. This is just round one, folks, get it together.
WELL SAID!
This is breaking the Father’s heart. Please stop the fighting and dividing
As a co Pastor with my husband, for 45 years we really have found we have to pray for discernment
Rick - you have an amazing heart of our Heavenly Father to embrace the wrong doers with great patience and until the end . Also you have blessed the body of Christ with your many books and teachings by being obedient to the Lord. Now It is my great desire and prayer that you will reap those many goodness that you have been sawn to the extent that you have never ever imagined in this time of your and Morning Star church’s need! God bless you and all yours richly! With a lot of ❤ to you and all your family members!
I so appreciate your transparency, and this seems to be such a rare commodity nowadays in the church worldwide...I've been following you for more than 20 years and your ministry, through books and everything,second to the Bible, have shaped me into what I am today more than any other book or ministry! Whenever I would lose my vision and be in confusion, I would always find my way back after reading one of your books or watching one of your materials ...I owe you a lot and my prayer is with you in such a time as this. Let's stay close to the Lord to get us through these better and stronger💗
He's such a blessing to the body of Christ.
Having listened to you for years, trust has set in such that you will be responsible enough to hear from Father and do the right thing. 😊
Harm to children is never to be minimized. Harm and gaslighting to control others is equally abuse. There’s a tremendous need for MS to have a better accountability system for ALL leaders. No worship of the gifted, the most powerful etc.
@@MaryLindow-bt3ow I agree
Not only the leaders, it’s your responsibility too!!!
Praying for you Rick, God is just realigning and helping us to see what we still need towork on to be effective in what He wants to use us for next! Always teaching us! Remember what you say as long as we are moving He can turn the 🚢!
I am a fellow minister of the Gospel and I am praying for you and having my subscribers pray for you (did a video about this calling for unity but bastsh upon what the Lord every me do but I have also shared this on my community tab, asking others to pray). God bless you, Rick!
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This morning I prayed from London, UK, for Rick and Chris to make peace for the sake of unity in Christ, which we preach. Each one of them spilling their emotions online is very anti-Christ. Get on brothers for the sake of yourselves, your wives your friends and families and for the sake of Christ. Wasting God's time on TH-cam and other platforms defending your viewpoints, regretting actions taken, your errors in judgement in the past is achieving countless zeros for the KINGDOM of GOD. Mistakes were made that were covered up but from his heart of mercy, Almighty God has uncovered them and their sister sins that led to children's SA and trauma. If Chris and his wife were sexually abused as kids, why as an adult was he involved out of wedlock with a younger woman? It's the same sin, Jesus said even to look at a woman and lust after her- which he did. IF he has issues with authority, shame, rejection which is why he's ready to launch a new church, God's rod/staff will lead him back to the place of submission and total healing of the cause. Please Rick, as a father of faith for many, as a man who has been treasured by Jesus enough to sit with him in his garden, what is the LORD saying to you now from the inner most place where you have walked before? Are you obeying that instantly the way you've done in the past? He loves you and loves Chris, so best for you both to send posts of encouragement, why to vote for the right person (not party) for president of the US. You both have prophetic insight and voice that Satan wants to cloud so the body of Yeshua suffers for the next 4 years if America votes wrong like in the past election. Help bring healing to Christ's body- do you know how many people you are both leading to sin as you and Chris pour your individual rants online? Most times its difficult to watch an entire clip!! Use the space and God's time to bring sinners to Christ and the rest of the time talking to God about your pain, your thoughts and your brother who has branched off. Call Chris and go for a coffee or a motorbike ride and let the living waters issuing from the sanctuary heal both your hearts from hurt. If one of you went home first, would the other refuse to greet him because this is unresolved? Is heaven ready for either of you/are you always ready for a quick trip home if the trump sounds? For what each has worked in fellowship with Christ, Satan will turn to hay if you both do not sort this. Even the earth and its fulness belongs to the Lord- that includes you and Chris and all of us waking up to a new, "me wronged-me right" clip. We are watching, Satan is watching and clapping as we get negatively affected. Be the testimony of Jesus' boundless love, e.g. like when you appointed Chris as CEO/President. Be Yahweh's tangible mercy and grace by imitating Christ who forgave Peter and the entire Jewish nation that "did not know what they were doing". Psalm 51, RESOLVE THIS. God bless you.
Thank you for humbly sharing your struggles with us, it's an encouragement to me.
Standing with you for all God is working in this time!
God bless you Rick. Praying for you.
I feel deeply for Rick. Because I know what God saved me from, I tend to be merciful and see the POTENTIAL in people. But sadly, many will never never rise to their potential. I know Rick is very merciful.
Rick, I have listened to the ministry at Morningstar for several years. I'm an elder woman, with a watchwoman call to serve. Just to say to you, BE ENCOURAGED IN CHRIST, as David encouraged himself while he was being chased by Saul. Satan has loosed his demons on the true Saints! Hold Fast to all the Christ has given you, Stand Firm!! Do Not turn to right or left!! Much prayers!!!❤
Pray for Discernment and Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom.
The lawsuits clearly state they happened at Morningstar, and during events there. I guess we will find out the truth during the court case
Thank you for your transparency. I received the warning and advised my Church with suggestions on how to proceed to Protect our Youth and Children. I absolutely agree with the shaking of the Lord and the need to deepen our relationships with Him and enquire of Him. I Honour your courage in transparency and honest assessments. This can only better the Church for those who have ears to hear. Thank you Rick.
Thank you so much for this Rick, for your transperency and sharing your wisdom.
Rick Joyner has a wonderful heart that wants the will and the heart of the Lord! Blessings and prayer for you and all that is currently taking place.
You should see the lawsuits
@@brookemakesfun5874 don't need to see the lawsuits. When bad things happen it's very unfortunate but there's way more to understand. Hebrews 5:14.
I actually had a dream about it on June 20. But I as well as those I shared it with misinterpreted it because we didn't see any possibility of Chris leaving. Sometimes, sentiment clouds our interpretation.
Glad to hear your rant ! I know all your volunteers will be extremely vetted spiritually, now, like your staff. Hire true watchman prophets. I am praying for help for dear Morningstar. I love your transparency and pure heart towards God and us.
Love you and respect you Rick Joyner
I feel deeply for Rick. Because I know what God saved me from, I tend to be merciful and see the POTENTIAL in people. But sadly, many will never never rise to their potential. I know Rick is very merciful.
Thank you Rick for doing this rant. The Lord has had you in my heart. I honor you and pray for your strength and Morningstar.
My mom has GREAT discerning skills. Some of the best. But it is rough. Because people do not often believe her. And she is not always liked. But I agree. And Bob was amazing.
God bless you Rick 🙏 The LORD’s arm is not too weak to save , nor is his ear too deaf to hear you call.
Soon the storm is over - victory will come
Rick we really love you and keep you in our prayer list on this spiritual warfare. Bless you!!
I couldn't get into Chris Reed. Didn't know why. Just no connection. Good to see you back Rick X Celia
Love you, Rick!
Thanks for keeping the comments open for the community. I pray people can be positive and encourage through prayer and not tear down. I wish others would do the same.
Appreciate your sharing regarding the difficulties you've been going through in life and ministry . Yes how we need one another. May the Lord raise up the right people for help and support..The Lord is so good...He is dealing with all of us in His goodness. ..
You’re a good man Rick Joyner. Praying for MS.
I would like to hear more about how Chris Reed and Rick Joyner were not in agreement over things, though I don't need to know the details. All I seem to get is about how Chris left the sheep, being a coward and such things, but what good does it do to paint a man with that kind of brush? Were there some real differences between them? I would rather just hear about how one had a vision, a way, a direction, and about how another didn't agree with it.
If all I hear is Rick branding a man as a coward, and that's all I get, I might start to think that's a bit manipulative, worldly, and carnal. and a way of causing some kind of mirage, some smoke and mirrors or something, and I might be more inclined to believe the things Chris was saying as well as what was shared in an electronic message, something one repented of later.
May the Lord knock off a few barnacles off of Rick's ship. I'd like to see things speed up a bit. Why nuke Chris like that? I don't think that's the right answer. There must be some kind of real substance to it all and not just being a coward who leaves the sheep, though I don't need to know exactly what that real substance was. I believe it had to be something.
I saw it. Rick Moses couldn’t do it all on his own. God did give him supernatural strength.
Thank you Rick. We are standing with you and will not be moved as we stand together! On our knees in prayer, sword in one hand and repairing the broken walls to fortify our city and rebuild the Temple of the Lord 🙏❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
I have confidence and faith in you.
Have followed you from so California for many decades.
I think Justin Perry discerned him correctly and that is why he left. I don't know him but he made a video and that is what I took away from it.
Some questions...
1. Why was Chris R allowed to begin before he completed rehabilitation?
2) Why did you all allowed the snake Julie Roys to question you guys? Do you know she is a wolf in sheeps clothing?
3) Why you don't know how to divide between spiritual stuff and natural stuff? You mix both up and everything gets messy. Shifting between spiritual and natural shows manipulation and control.
4) There is nothing wrong with Chris Reed. Ppl conspired against him. The lady forgave him. Why was what happened to him leaked when he resigned?!
Somebody is lying. Justin or Chris. Chris has the texts to backup his claims. Justin’s hands are not clean
I'm from Reykjavik and feel a huge connection between Ohio and South Carolina!
Seems chris reed was set up to take the fall for this (the lawsuits) by making him ceo in 2021 (even though he knew chris's issue with the student (chris had already went through supposed restoration)). Rick stepped down and that volunteer was let go by morningstar because of the minor sexual abuse accusations (they did not tell chris about any of that). Then when chris found out about the lawsuits coming he stepped down immediately and surprisingly enough his 2021 inappropriate relationship miraculously came to light (probably not an accident) in a possible attempt to make chris reed the story in hopes to have that over shadow the lawsuits. Just seems sus...! He is also attacking people who dare to suggest that he be accountable. Lol 😅
Such a humble message. Resonates with me as well! The supernatural and His glory are there even more when we work with one another and humble ourselves under the mighty hand of God.
Praying for protection of the ministry staff from tactics of the enemy to embarrass the church these last days
This is a indication that we need to intercede for ministries
Chris said you just texted back “thanks” when he reached out and said that he loved you. If that’s true, that seems pretty cold in that you are a spiritual father to him and being the more mature one, I would have thought/hoped you would have responded with love.
I know after all the disgraceful things said from Chris and actions. And when Chris ( married ) and Kathrine confessed the affair they had they didn’t tell the full truth. Rick didn’t know the true story till recently. Chris is so hurt Rick didn’t say I Love you too? Rick is left with all this mess now . Rick is really nice I would have said ………
yea, I’m afraid MS hiring Chris and not letting him in on the S-A. That’s BS. Chris did not know this when he was hired. Sorry, that kind of crap doesn’t fly anymore.
I am really sorry to hear this about morning star ministries...God will see you thru this battle. I have followed Rick for many years thru his books and later sermons and I have no doubt that he is a true messenger of God. Thank you for the books; stand strong and let God.
Agreed ❤
Always loved morning Star 💞. Praying for you 🙏.
I agree with so much what you have said Rick! I too have understood that I haven't simply asked the Lord more questions. We need to turn to Him for everything especially now in the time we are living in!
AMEN, RICK. KEEP ON KEEPING ON FOR OUR LORD, JESUS! WE DO NEED EACH OTHER AND MUCH PRAYER, WITH REPENTANCE EVERY DAY!! Much warfare going on because we're close to the end!
The Lord loves MorningStar. You have many unseen intercessors and watchmen that have been interceding on your behalf for years. People who don’t want a position out front. People who don’t care about making a name for themselves. We first have to place value in people. Then, we must PULL from that value in order to utilize their strengths to support our weaknesses. The Lord ALWAYS provides a solution. He’s brilliant like that.
You must understand, people will be very different because of who you are. They will act with you, as a well known author, leader, etc. completely different from people under you. I have seen this in every area of business and life. Be AWARE!
MorningStar has blessed me and Norway meeting, 🇳🇴
Rick, I just want to say I love you and trust you. Like you said, you probably need someone else to discern the character of the "trees."
Don't let the devil bury you in regret. You have permission to forgive yourself.
Love and support you Rick, perhaps you can find someone to walk along side you that has the gift of discernment! Just sayin..
Definitely trust your motives and your love for the Lord. Thank you for your humility and perseverance. That will get us over the finish line 🙌
Dear brother Rick, I watched your video and heard about what you are going through. I want to comment on what you said here, and I pray this will be a great comforting word for you. This is one of the aspects of the prophetic-comforting with truth!
You kept mentioning and blaming yourself a lot for NOT SEEING it coming, and you recalled Bob Jones, saying you felt safer with him because he delivered many words of warning and revelations to you. What you said is so good, and it is always good to press in for more discernment, to watch spiritually, and to read things through the eyes of God.
But at the same time, I felt the Holy Spirit remind me of this as I watched you: Jesus, the Son of God, after a long night of prayer, CHOSE Judas because the Father told Him to do that. Whether Jesus fully discerned the betrayal at once upon choosing Judas or later on doesn’t matter because God turned everything for good. You are never dumb when you obey God!
Rick, even if you were fully aware and omniscient (you can’t be), you still couldn’t protect your emotions and the flock from bad things because love is vulnerable.
Your peace should remain in the fact that, at the moment of dedicating authority to Chris years ago, you were in God’s perfect will and you felt peace about it. And for that, God will reward you! Yes, it is a hard time because when one organ hurts, the whole body joins.
I understand why you are pressing in for this call to reach a higher level of discernment, which is good, but it also feels imbalanced. You want God’s protection, yet you can still face pain with peace, even when navigating hurt. God is your protector and not your discernment necessarily!
Why did God allow Jesus to choose Judas to be on His ministry team? Maybe because Judas needed that closeness as an expression of God’s abounding grace and the great opportunities He gave before Judas experienced the greatest separation. Jesus even called him a friend when he was kissed for betrayal. Jesus till the very end wanted to awaken and restore Judas by asking him, what is this you are doing, friend? Love never fails.
Rick and all keep your eyes on Jesus and teach people that when we live in a family, especially God’s family, we will sharpen each other, and sometimes do awful things to one another. YET, never withdraw love. Trust the Lord, run to His arms, be healed, and come back fired up again to continue serving!
God bless you,
Tony Francis
I am very sorry about the things you have to deal with recently.
but also hope you know that you are representing the example of Jesus Christ carrying the cross.
That is phenomenal more than any other gifts.
I believe heaven will witness how you walk through these trials.
Dear old man of God
you are the darling of Abba Father
you are pleasing Him with all these trials and hardships.
thank you with all my heart for standing for the truth.
I'm from Reykjavik and see the blending of Ohio and South Carolina as amazing!
God is able to make him or her stand
To see clearly, its not about desiring gifts, its about dying to everything, being purified by holy fire and willing to give everything and lay everything on the altar for Jesus. We cant hear his voice until we are willing to hear what he says and be obedient no matter what the cost. Ask what is in our hearts that prevents us from hearing. What biases do we have? I can hear now and see what my master says like never before if I stay yeilded and humble, but I lost my job, my friends, my reputation, money for a time in a refiners fire but he restores. Im willing to lose anything, but Gods prescence and the secret place and bring a friend of God is more important to me than anything. Thats when I started seeing. Thats when he started sharing secrets. We need to ask God to give us his heart and his perspective, to break our heart for what breaks his. We need to crucify our flesh and really be open. Its as he wills, anything that is revealed. We need to not be decieved by seducing spirits and yes we need watchman, but theres a price and its not comfortable to be a warrior and watchman on the wall. To be awakened in the night, to carry bad news, to be travailing for our nation and souls. Lol
Thank you for your comment Mary Price.❤
I’m sorry for all you’re going through. We are praying. 🙏
Spiritual detectives are needed too!! To dig deep into what’s there!!
6:50 A child is anyone under the age of 18.
Its time for church leaders to accept responsibility for appropriate stewardship over all children on premise. Please train your staff on how to spot Predators
I'm glad to see you know you need to listen to those who have gifts you don't have or aren't operating in at the moment. Let me point out God does send warnings but He might send them through people who in the natural you would lightly esteem. God can speak to a janitor as well or even better than many leaders.I was blessed to hear God both times I visited Morningstar but it was in unexpected ways and through unexpected people. I have also learned from watching this whole scenario play out that we must follow the Spirit and not just a spiritual principle. Yes, restoration is Biblical in general but there are other principles involved such as who is qualified to hold Scriptural leadership. I truly do not believe putting Chris in in the first place was wisdom but it could be that God orchestrated this whole thing and let it play out to teach the Body things it refused to learn any other way.
A true watchman is not afraid of any man nor to confront any thing evil!! A true watchman sees afar off in what’s coming at the camp. The trees and forest are one in the same. True prophetic intercessors must be respected in what they see and hear. Test the spirits for sure and do fastings!! It’s those grandmas and grandpas that are hidden and praying that others need be mindful of when they speak. I’ve been praying along with others for our nation and states.
Why did you condemn Chris when his indiscretions happened 3 years ago?
@Anonymous-zz1jzlol so we air out dirty laundry from 3 years ago for payback
Is that right ?
The devil always brings up the past.
Seems that Chris was placed in a position that he wasn’t anointed, gifted, or ready for, maybe prophet and caring pastor don’t generally go together. Rick, I sure wish you wouldn’t throw Chris under the bus.
South Carolina being absolutely gorgeous and the most friendly, Ohio is most authentic and just being themselves, on the other hand.
I don't know who Chad Hawley is , but pray for his soul.
Lee wasn't "just a volunteer." HE WAS THE LEADER of that group. More than one parent tried to report the abuse and they got silenced by your team. None of you can tell the truth. What a sick, sick mess.
What’s your source?
Rick we love you and trust you!!! A clean man of God we long to see more of. Too much sin in this world
I know Rick Joyner is amazing!
Apostolic women and men. Dr. Hammond I read his books. Some can see through hidden evil
Give leaders like Kathleen more voice. Shes a watchman....
I feel the same but she didn’t spill the truth at first to Rick he didn’t know the full story till later. But I saw her video exposing it all she took it as a Champ for sure she’s a great woman of God.
Kathleen who?Is she related to morningstar?
The sad part is that when these things occur, it opens up a door for the enemy to come in like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. The enemy is the accuser of the brethren so there will always be added accusation as a fruit of sinful action
Rick, the recent TH-cam videos about Morningstar events are shining light on one area: "Ministry focus people." It is sickening to see. "Ministry" This is appallingly to stewards.
I'm wondering how so many churches full of people moving in the prophetic can't see this. God stirred up some prophetic, discernment and seer/feeler gifts in me and man there's been 4 big names fall in the past year and I had icky feelings and a troubled spirit about all 4 of them for years. God has made me a watchman, and I have even brought warnings regarding an individual to church leadership when two other prophetic people saw exactly what I saw and brought it forward about witchcraft and Jezebel spirits trying to take down the move of spirit at our church through a person. None of us had communicated with each other and only one of us knew the lady that was highlighted by the holy spirit, but God was exposing and warning. No one listened to us and nothing was done. There was even evidence on the person's social media that they were heavy into new age and she is still leader at church and on prayer team.
King David had a lot of things that were out of his control, it's next to impossible to prevent every threat.
Praying about the spirit of arrogance and God is moving in mysterious ways!
Erickson Lee is the son of your long term security guard. You're actually not being very honest with the people when you just say he was just a "volunteer". That man grew up in your church. Could he have been a victim of Todd Bentley?? Predatory behavior usually occurs from those who were themselves abused. At the very least he had insider knowledge about Todd Bentley, seeing as how he was the son of your long term security guard....
C'mon you and Chris are milking this for clicks, likes and followers. Let it go already. Enough of the smarmy antics please. Where is Jesus in all this? Same message will be posted to Chris Reed.
I get your point, but good luck trying to comment on Chris Reed's posts lol. He's not allowing comments from what I saw. These folks need to quit going after each other and set the example of how to get through this together. We are heading into Matthew chapter 24 verse 10 territory with all of this betraying and turning on one another. These guys need to take the lead on this issue, work this out, and set the proper example for these difficult and trying days we are in right now.
I don't think we should take the attitude that we did everything right and didn't fall short in any way, and that these things will continue to happen because we did the best we could have and so we can't even hope they never happen again because we did that too and it still happened. I would rather look for a better answer than that, just sayin'.
Amen
Rick, you are a good man, a good servant of God. I have no trouble trusting you. Chris Reed had his problems, and he is still making some judgmental errors because he has not received the experience and level of maturity that you have. So, I believe he is tremendously gifted in the prophetic and will make great contributions to the Church of the Lord in the days to come. So, have mercy on the young man.
First of all South Carolina is what we all dream of!
One of the things that is telling to me is that you leave comments turned on. Those who turn them off I don’t trust. It means they can’t handle contrary positions!!
True, I’ll give him that as long as he doesn’t delete the comments that ask hard questions or point out uncomfortable truths contrary to the damage control he is trying to do.
@Anonymous-zz1jz color me not surprised.
Agreed! It shows a lot. I don’t trust that C guy one bit never could. It’s something through my life every minister I felt that way about I mean I couldn’t even stomach listening to them. Later most the time years later I would hear something horrible they did. Or one day I just can’t watch them anymore then I find out that’s when they fell into sin. First one was Jimmy Swaggert
keep praying🙏🏻
I was confronted in Ohio having the spirit of arrogance,then sent to my beloved MorningStar and South Carolina.
I appreciate your humble approach to this situation, and for accepting responsibility for where you missed it.
We wish we could err on the side of grace, and everything work out, but this isn’t always the case.
11:20 p.m.EST I don't see Rick accepting responsibility & move on when he cannot give forgiveness in the way he has spoken & actions to the hateful things he has done around Chris. He is saying the words, but my Spirit does not see it true from his heart. Rick is still deflecting.
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@jerriannedawson566 You listened to this vid with a critical spirit, perhaps.
I agree with you 100% I've tried not to be critical but my spirit is hearing the words but I don't think it's in his heart. whenever Rick wants to make a point he uses scriptures and speaks on how he has these great gifts of discernment but when it comes to anything with this lawsuit or Chris he "just never saw it coming" or "just missed it" he has a "blind spot"
@elperformance4 Did you even listen to the vid?
I am from Reykjavik trying to connect two states in USA that may not understand each other!
Seems to me this isn't live...like it says....gifting does not equal maturity ....it includes older people as well...
God bless you Pastor Rick. In humility I submit, that it is better to raise a home grown leader to take over your ministry. Hirelings, opportunitists and self preservers will ditch ship at the first sign of a storm.
The Lord will strengthen you. Do not shy from asking the Lord to give you both, the insight into trees AND the forest in this new season.
Shana tova!
I was at MS about ten years ago and the worship leader (short guy with black bushy hair) had a NWA shirt on on stage. I was appalled!
I have walked out any conflict between Ohio and South Carolina!
Pastor Dana Coverstone had a dream some time back & the Lord was telling Christian’s to pray for astute discernment. So some of us have been praying about that, & u r Right we need all the gifts of the Spirit & the 5 fold ministry to have the Holy Spirit of Truth to lead us into ALL TRUTH & settle disputes Re: sound doctrine where the body of Christ is so divided on far too many matters where we are 180 degrees out from teaching on the very same subject, & the very same prophecy, & so the saints are confused - & how can we make disciples that are going to be unified rather than fighting one another over what is sound doctrine & what is unsound?? And i mean Christian’s are divided over whether we should celebrate Christmas. As well as OSAS, & the cessationists, & the rapture etc etc - O Dear Heavenly Father Pls help us Pls. Thank U. IJN Amen
I love both South Carolina and Ohio, I'm torn between two lovers!
I think the tendency of worldly lawyers is to throw everything at somebody and hope to find something that sticks. Does anyone in law enforcement, or prosecution ever apologize for overcharging someone? Maybe it happens I don't know, but maybe not, maybe not so much anyway.
I find it intresting spiritual growth can come out of the plans of the enemy if we keep our eyes on His word. God is in control we are not then we realize our dependance on the father and it changes us from the inside out if we do not give up.
I think the blending of South Carolina and Ohio will be everything the Lord is looking for.
Ohian is extremely authentic and does not trust South Caroline anything!
What a mess.A lot of personal failure on every level. Big business mess , just not like church is suppose to be, sorry.
Yes, business issue. And personal Ministry focused remarks.
So sorry about all the junk happening at Morningstar. Considering all the flak that you receive, I'd say that you are definitely over the target.
Very true about King David needing the help of other prophets. I had not really thought of that.
The dad of the ‘ volunteer ‘who offended’ was ( mb still is) on staff at MS apparently
There seems to be some commentary about a petition of members wanting Rick to resign, but that seems way too much like Korah's Rebellion.
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