As someone who played her quite a bit on PBE, I will say that Nashors is no longer a must buy for AP Kat. Stormsurge into Shadowflame into either Liandrys or Riftmaker feels great. Basically, you can play her as full ap burst a lot easier now.
One thing you forgot to mention is that tanks will benefit from champs only be able to buy 1 ad %pen item. You can now only buy Black Cleaver, Dominik or Serylda. And Serylda is a tiny bit worse if you don't buy more lethality.
@@thew26x on the 2 weeks I played on PBE it seem like the only item systematic change Will affect Riven, Aatrox and Hecarim the most since those 3 build both Black Cleaver and Serylda
nice cool. i played one pbe game and didnt really like the new map but i bet its just because i feel nothing when i dont play ranked lmao@@MrDonJuanquis
FINALLY! i've been complaining about this since naafiri's release. an assassin champ, whether that be naafiri or situationally a talon or zed, should not be able to stack 2 %pen items to kill their counter class (tanks). it's like how ADCs are spamming radiant virtue right now to not get one shot - it's unhealthy for the game from a fundamental standpoint.
Unless they updated PBE yesterday, you still can't build IE and Quickblades together. I think another huge note you guys could have made in this video was the changes to zhonya's.
@sifridcrew4168 I think the big change for me is that AP is fucked against AD mids. Renekton into melee AP, for example, was already a winning matchup and now mages have to spend 600 more gold than before for 10 armor. The other, and more likely option, is buying a second cloth armor that they have to sell later. This would have already been an issue WITHOUT the lethality revert.
Yes in pbe I cannot build both IE and navori. There used to be a restriction about navori quivkblades and spear of shojin. I guess it was OP. But in pbe you can now build both.
Again, you can't build IE and Navori's at once. They're no longer mythic items but they always have been critical strike modifiers just like Guinsoo's. It works the same way as other item types like liveguards like shieldbow, Sterak's or Malmortius, you can't combine them. If I was able to build both items (that option is not able, as I said, tested it out already) I could get to stack both damage amplifiers from critical strike on both Q and R on Samira (65% bonus damage in R since Q only applies the 25% of the bonus damage on critical strike, still applies the whole bonification of Navori's). So as a Samira OTP I guess I should be still searching for a viable build.
Doubt so, they both are still crit modifiers (no one has ever been able to build both Guinsoo's and IE, just like as a melee you can't purchase Runaan's or combine Sterak's and Malmortius). And even so (in the case that game lets you) you would loose the Navori's passive due to Guinsoo's one as you loose all your crit. Try it on PBE, one of both should happen.
Navori and IE are mutally excusive, but guinsoo isn't anymore, since it doesn't remove your crit for extra on-hit, but you can't build IE and Navori, tried it like 2 days ago on PBE.
@@karaparejamatesanz4710 You literally can, Rageblade is reverted to pre mythic so it is not a crit modifier, people before the mythic system always built rage IE
I don't know if Dan or whoever wrote the script even actually play the game. Half of this video is just complete nonsense. Hardly any of it is accurate or correct. Their explanations about the items and the context around it in the new season are mostly all wrong, but sometimes they couldn't even read the item text properly. 🤦♂
Yep it wasn't proccing , thats why it seems worse than triforce rush. There was a bug in pbe where sundered sky couldn't proc. Would've been dumb to make an item comparison with that bug
Exactly. Like, the bug is 100% Riot's fault, but it's completely inexcusable for the video makers not to realise is was occurring while using it as context for their explanation. Honestly pretty pathetic for how credible they claim they are.@@Shirosaki_Ichigo
Riot: "We want to give mages more item opportunities and diversify their options." Instead: "Removing valuable enough ap items; making the craziest magic resist item." Ffs, void staff should be buffed to 50% mp, no joke.
Void staff actually got nerfed because it costs more. It giving more ap doesn’t make up for the fact that you need 200 more gold to access the magic pen
You still cant buy infinity and navori. And its not because they are mythics, but because they have a unique effect like sterak or maw, so either you just mistaken, or you dont really play the game)
I started playing league the season mythic items joined, so I don't know the optimal way to build without mythics. Therefore, this guide was pretty helpful for me!
For folks watching this post-S14 launch here's some things that I think are worth noting, but weren't covered here (probably because of things being slightly different on PBE, or maybe I just have different priorities lol): RIFTMAKER - Riftmaker has Demonic Embrace's old bonus hp -> ap conversion passive. - Riftmaker's Omnivamp now applies at 100% for AoE and Pet damage (can't find the previous value for how much it was reduced by for those) - Riftmaker's damage ramp passive stacks with Liandry's damage ramp passive. Unsure if it's multiplicative or additive. Assume additive. - Thoughts: these changes make Rift an attractive option for folks like Swain and Vlad and other mages that want a survivability oriented option for ability haste MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ITEMS - Infinity Edge and Navori Quickblades are mutually exclusive "critical strike capstone items" like they were before being made mythics. - Terminus, Lord Dominik's Regards, Mortal Reminder, and Serylda's Grudge are all mutually exclusive "armor penetration capstone items" (the latter 3 were before, Terminus is new). Terminus should probably be more evaluated against these choices than as a rush item. Given its stats, it's probably best on hybrid damage dealers; folks that value the attack speed over crit chance or slow; and folks that want extra survivability. - Spellbalde items (Essence Reaver, Iceborn Gauntlet, Trinity Force, and Lichbane) are all mutually exclusive. No big deal here. Worth re-iterating that point about Sundered Sky *not* being a spellblade item, so it works with any of the others. GUINSOO'S RAGEBLADE - Guinsoo's no longer converts crit and can be built with either IE or Navori (IE and Quickblade are mutually exclusive) - With crit no longer being converted, this means the on hit is a max of 30 as opposed to the previous max of 180 at 100% crit. More realistically, the on hit was maxing around 120 with three crit items since most users would pick up other on-hit effects over crit chance. - Rageblade's extra-on-hit effect works with Krakenslayer's passive again - Thoughts: Rageblade's crit-to-on-hit-dmg conversion going away is probably a bit of a wash in terms of raw dps for most of the game, probably a slight dps loss early, then more dps later, particularly with a crit kapstone item. It'd be a lot of math to figure out the actual damage gain/loss from no longer converting crit. Many Rageblade users were already taking Kraken, so this is a straight buff to them. Rageblade with crit allows a lot of folks to have their cake and eat it too. Akshan and Vayne in particular come to mind. Akshan has crit chance scaling on his ult that he can benefit from while building rage blade, already builds kraken, and can still build an IE to ramp up crit even more. Vayne's q damage can crit, which she no longer gives up with rageblade; she already likes Kraken; and an IE later on adds some gross burst potential. TENACITY ITEMS - Sterak's Gauge no longer gives 30% tenacity when the shield pops, instead it has a flat 20% tenacity as a main stat. Probably an overall buff. - Wit's End was reworked a good bit. It no longer gives AD and the movement speed on-hit was removed. It now grants more attack speed and MR, and includes 20% tenacity as a main stat. On-hit damage was unchanged. I think this effectively changes it from a hybrid damage-defensive item to more purely defensive. It's one of the few ways to add tenacity to your build if you really don't want to give up berserker greaves (Yasuo, Yone, ADC's), but you're not gaining much in the way of damage unless you're heavily leaned into on-hit effects already. Might allow you to forgo another attack speed item for a bigger damage item elsewhere in your build. There's a lot going on in this season's changes. This was a great video summing up a lot of it. Me writing this stuff out is mainly just organizing my thoughts for myself, but if someone else gets value out of it, awesome.
Think the first test of Sky is bug. If your first build the item and them genetare the dummy, dont proc the extra damage. You notice it cause it should be a crit, but instead just normal aa
ROA into liandry into riftmaker then cosmic drive will be my initial build on lillia i think. Will see what other lillia mains do and adapt as the season goes
@@felix90708 I think she will still be good but not too broken cuz Liandry and riftmaker along with her max health burn and true damage in her kit is still good. We'll have to see how good it is in live servers tho
LISTEN MAGES!!! Now that mythic passives are removed don’t be afraid of going lost chapter into a separate item that doesn’t build it. Just to sustain mana in early game!!!! Don’t be afraid to patch work really strong comp items together
I was using voltaik cyclosword + profane hydra on khazix and I almost one shot everyone easily. You can reduce into half hp of squishy champs just by using voltaik cyclosword alone. Amazing items , you don't even need collector to one shot squish champs.
I personally tried to do Storm Surge first (playing akali) .. it was ok but something was missing (was also playing against galio mid w aftershock)... it was ok dmg on everyone except galio ... my final build was Surge , pen boots, Belt, Shadow, Bloom and Dcap .. later switched bloom for Void stuff ... but still surge wasnt as good as they hyped it up to be .. electrocute runes w triumph and coup de grace as well .. maybe just bc the first match
Around 1:40, when they're talking about the sundered sky vs triforce comparison, the empowered sundered sky auto actually isn't triggering on the target dummy, otherwise it would look fairly equal if not closer to the sundered sky damage.
I would argue against Malzahar rushing Malignance tbh. Liandry's has been core for Malzahar to actually do any meaningful amount of damage, and malignance simply doesn't provide enough for him, considering he does piss poor damage without Liandry's. Malzahar might gravitate towards getting an early tear for mana sustain, and still opt towards rushing liandry's and rylai's.
Elite500 is playing Riftmaker into Liandry's into Deathcap on Vlad and its very strong as Vladimir's passive converts HP to AP and vice versa, and he has always done well in extended fights making the passives on both Riftmaker and Liandry's very strong on him. Cosmi Drive into Protbelt is another alternative depending on your playstyle, but having like 4k health end game on a mage like Vlad feels so good
you can´t build navori an IE at the same time and also de comparison between trinity and the new item is wrong cause the pasive of the new item is not active on the dummy
I think this is incorrect 19:20 you actually cant buy IE and quickblades together. There's a few items that actually do that as well. No Immortal shieldbow with Maw. Which makes sense as their passives are the same. I think IE mistakenly has it's passive missing?
Cryptbloom has 15Haste and Void Staff has none! The tradeoff is +15Haste and the Heal-on-takedown proc for 10AP and 10% MagicPen There is a lot more AP in the item system now, and significantly less Haste on Mage items, so 10AP isn't much at all to miss out on for 15Haste. My first ARAM Ziggs build had 1528AP just in his inventory at full build, without calculating in any runes or the elixir, or the Deathcap amp on those. And that was going with Cryptbloom and Banshee's. If you want to go Banshee's, then the opportunity cost of not picking up Haste in that slot makes the Haste on Cryptbloom even more attractive. So against Squishies who might build Maw or Wits or Banshees, but you can still try to burst them in skirmishes and fights where you have some help, you get your second rotation up faster and heal your Frontline to keep going. Against tanks it's going to depend on the math between the extra pen on VoidStaff and the extra Haste to poke at them with a Liandry's build. Most Liandry's users are battlemages now instead of burst mages like Ziggs and Lux who really want Horizon Focus, Stormsurge and potentially then Shadowflame if they're able to be dealing the last damage to targets rather than initial poke, but I definitely still took Cryptbloom on Ziggs in at least the ARAM game I played him, to spam more area control and bombs. And he could still take Liandry's if there are enough tanks, or that is the only person he can safely hit reliably. Being able to take buffed FoN and Rook into his minefield is going to make controlling tanks a nightmare if they're allowed to stack MR instead of Armor, though.
I've tried Malignance on Brand as it can also apply the passive to everyone it hits and Rylai's second to keep them in the zone (5 zones making a HUGE zone), Liandry's third.
@@elbigotesdelatienda Oh i didn't mean you should skip liandy's but I do think after the 3 item combo of liandry, malignance and rylais you are basically unstoppible
Why do I feel like Sundered Sky might work on Jhin with that guaranteed crit for his lethality build? Would be good poke for his early game at the least.
You cant build infinity and Quickblades on the same build. I tried it on Nilah and it wouldnt let me since both have "crit modifier" unique passive on them.
i feel like Jax will abuse the Trinity Titanic combo, that made him OP 4 years ago, also he might become a good jungler again with the old tiamant. Going full tank after those 2 items.
Wondering about what ap Shaco jg is gonna build now... Also guess Fiddle will be like the second Nocturne: even autofilled jungler does have a chance of winning as him bcs of how strong his kit is, and new items seem to be in his favor as well ( 40% of my matches being against nocturne only prove that right)
Wait holy shit I'm in a skillcap video! That section talking about AP jungles with the Diana gameplay I was the Senna in that game lmao. I was watching and saw the Senna walk into the jungle and die and was like, "Yup same" but then I saw a Xayah and was like, "Hey wait a second, I remember that exact thing happening to me."and then I saw it was Star Guardian Senna and I was like, "Wait that's actually me!" I saw the rotation into the jungle and I thought, "I bet you they are just waiting in the bush to catch me rotating, I've seen Skill capped's videos." But I still took the 50/50 and walked in and sure enough, there was the Diana lol
Ban ap champs, take double magic resist in runse, tenacity boots every game, at least 1 or 2 magic resist item that are make u tank or anti burst for mages. (every game until sp item get balanced)
for the newbs out there, Stormsurge is just a revived DFG... and it won't last 2 months, because it was broken back then and it will be now, even more.
Solstice slay would be more of an enchanter item...it'll proc on soraka Q, janna W, lulu Q, W or R, Sona E auto or Ult, maybe not so much on milio unless youre good at landing Q, and it will scale off of the heal+shield power they normally build, also gives them movement speed as well to kite. Sure it'll be good on engage supports as well but idk why highlight them over enchanters.
If anything the sheen support item will be lovely in the hands of engage champs like nautilus, leona and thresh, as it will make their damage in lane that much more oppressive, while also boosting their ally dps for free (Though I feel Thresh would like the damage reduction more since it allows for more playmaking potential)
Well for once I got exactly the info I needed, the buy order for Fiddle. I spotted Malignance as a must buy as soon it was revealed but wasn't sure where to put it in his rocketbelt/Zhonya core. Overall and without the stopwatch rune it feels a bit like a nerf, or at least less power spike. I'll miss the early tower dive with stopwatch.
Don't rush stridebreaker on Aatrox! It's a situational item that works best against ADC's top and teams that have too much range! You want to prioritize Sundered sky for short trades, since it stacks with his AA passive. You can also build Trinity force when dealing with long fights!
Does anyone know why you can't buy certain items together? If you buy something another items or a couple might get locked. I hovered over things, looked at passives, but nothing tells me why that occurs. It's like buying a mythic, then the other mythics would be locked unless you sold your current one.
Isnt hecarim crazy op with this new MS Lethalyty Item. Cause of his Passiv to gain AD from MS. Its like free a teamfight win after killing the first takedown, right?
I am otp kindred with the change of objects I thought that finally the build on hit and bruiser would go away and I would return to build critical But it still builds on hit This wouldn't bother me if it was the old kindred but the new kindred was supposed to eliminate this kind of builids. I don't know how riot is ignoring this when they wanted to make kindred a critical adc.
obviously items like kraken and botrk outdamage terminus but why arent u considering the mr and armor youre getting from it? this matters in early 1v1s and 2v2s
I would love to see them reverting items back, this season is boring. As ARAM player, build diversity on champions went down hill. Season 11, 12 was so fun and that was because of items. I don't even want to touch many champions anymore. This is so sad.
I'm really unsure that Malz shouldnt just go tear liandires anyway. That burn was so important to give you poke threat. He really doesn't need damage on his R because you arn't trying to solo people that often anyway. You are setting up other people in skirmishes. He doesn't need burst damage on his R. If he get's off a good ult he is going to win damage or not. He needs to poke threat on his q. Unless the item genuinely makes you a 1v1 threat which im suspicious of.
i used to do that last season and tried it this season too but i found that malignance , then liandry's and then shadowflame is my preferred build.i play mostly malz but im also really not that high elo so it might work for me because my oponents aren't challenger or anything like that. The thing with malz is that he honestly is a minion early game and even with liandry's the damage is not there early game. Unless the enemy laner is an idiot and he is tanking your e when you use it to farm, your r doesn't matter because you only kill if he already is low hp or if he again is an idiot and tanks tower shots trying to poke you or all in you and you just r.
@@erthkin6272 When Liandries had lost chapter and could be built first I found that I could do pretty significant damage from q poke. Or and E bounce from minion into a q reset is pretty significant when liandries is going that whole time. You get one of those or three q pokes and you are ready for a flash ER all in. And it can be done without being your focus. And e bounce is just a natural conclusion of pushing that you can maybe force with a well placed q to clear faster when you see and opportunity. And your q will be up again for a reset if done right. Another reason this build worries me is the lateness of rylais. Rylais is so important in Malzahars ability to disengage in the sidelane. As a solo laner you will sometimes find yourself 1v1 with the top laner in the side lane and the ability to lane a slow and make yourself safe is so important for this. I'm worried for malz. Burst ain't his thing.
@@peacefulwarrior9518 i have abandoned rilay's, i think the other items i mentioned before are just better right now, the rest is playing with the jungler to get both of us fed with free kills with r on mid or jungler, and if you can get ahead in late rilays isn't even needed , they will only kill you in sidelane if they stack on you and malz most of the time can't deal with that even with rilays
that item should never had been in the game lmao. as a toplane bruiser player, i can tell you that blowing your whole rotation on a mage when you arent behind in items and seeing them lose only 25% of their hp is not it.
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You still can't build navori and infinity edge
can you make a video on the current state of jungle and how ppl are going two top?
Where does Asol fit (with xerath etc ?)
Can't wait to play kat and having 8k hp, 250-300 armour and mr and 250 magic shield oneshoting everyone.
Thats me and my Gwen ❤😂
As someone who played her quite a bit on PBE, I will say that Nashors is no longer a must buy for AP Kat. Stormsurge into Shadowflame into either Liandrys or Riftmaker feels great. Basically, you can play her as full ap burst a lot easier now.
@@atomic028 Yeah, AP build in s14 is gona be much better then s13. But this tank shit isinsane.
@@atomic028Did they really nerf nashors to just give 15 on hit damage with no ap scaling? I read that somewhere but find it hard to believe.
every time they add new items to this game i permaban kat for a few patches until they at least try nerfing whatever broken shit she’s doing now
One thing you forgot to mention is that tanks will benefit from champs only be able to buy 1 ad %pen item.
You can now only buy Black Cleaver, Dominik or Serylda. And Serylda is a tiny bit worse if you don't buy more lethality.
dang i didnt know that. are there any more build restrictions you know about?
@@thew26x on the 2 weeks I played on PBE it seem like the only item systematic change
Will affect Riven, Aatrox and Hecarim the most since those 3 build both Black Cleaver and Serylda
nice cool. i played one pbe game and didnt really like the new map but i bet its just because i feel nothing when i dont play ranked lmao@@MrDonJuanquis
this is honestly a terrible change for bruisers, but it seems like everything is unless you're garen or darius.
FINALLY! i've been complaining about this since naafiri's release. an assassin champ, whether that be naafiri or situationally a talon or zed, should not be able to stack 2 %pen items to kill their counter class (tanks). it's like how ADCs are spamming radiant virtue right now to not get one shot - it's unhealthy for the game from a fundamental standpoint.
Unless they updated PBE yesterday, you still can't build IE and Quickblades together. I think another huge note you guys could have made in this video was the changes to zhonya's.
for zhonya's they did cover it briefly with fizz with the increased AP (Unless they changed it again on pbe ?)
Yea this script must be kinda old because IE +Navori was only a thing for a few days
Indeed, on that part of video. You can not equip both due to its unique lable on the top right of their descriptions. Would be wicked xD
@sifridcrew4168 I think the big change for me is that AP is fucked against AD mids. Renekton into melee AP, for example, was already a winning matchup and now mages have to spend 600 more gold than before for 10 armor. The other, and more likely option, is buying a second cloth armor that they have to sell later. This would have already been an issue WITHOUT the lethality revert.
Man they are so good at making you improve they didn't even realize you can't build it and quickblade
Ok that Maokai at 5:20 that took zero damage from the lux combo was hilarious.
a 5 level gap will do that
Could also be that lux ain't even building right lol. We don't even know if that maokai has the item and lux just sucks lol.
Lvl 13 lux deal 0 vs lvl 18 tank. I wonder why...
@@PyroAquaVentusDragonhe had the mmr item
19:24
Naoris and Infinite Edge are exclusive towards each other btw so no, you cannot build them at the same time.
Yes in pbe I cannot build both IE and navori.
There used to be a restriction about navori quivkblades and spear of shojin. I guess it was OP. But in pbe you can now build both.
Not only that, but ironically part of the reason for that was because of how broken Samira was getting those 2 items as her rush.
Good point. You can tell who does their homework and who doesn't when it comes to these "guide" videos. 🤦🏿♂️
They're both crit modifiers, so you can only have one crit modifier item
Again, you can't build IE and Navori's at once. They're no longer mythic items but they always have been critical strike modifiers just like Guinsoo's. It works the same way as other item types like liveguards like shieldbow, Sterak's or Malmortius, you can't combine them. If I was able to build both items (that option is not able, as I said, tested it out already) I could get to stack both damage amplifiers from critical strike on both Q and R on Samira (65% bonus damage in R since Q only applies the 25% of the bonus damage on critical strike, still applies the whole bonification of Navori's). So as a Samira OTP I guess I should be still searching for a viable build.
You can, however, buy Rage + Navori or Rage + IE which might be what a lot of on hits do a la season 8-9
Doubt so, they both are still crit modifiers (no one has ever been able to build both Guinsoo's and IE, just like as a melee you can't purchase Runaan's or combine Sterak's and Malmortius). And even so (in the case that game lets you) you would loose the Navori's passive due to Guinsoo's one as you loose all your crit. Try it on PBE, one of both should happen.
Navori and IE are mutally excusive, but guinsoo isn't anymore, since it doesn't remove your crit for extra on-hit, but you can't build IE and Navori, tried it like 2 days ago on PBE.
Yeah so fk all for ADC's in the new patch. yay
@@karaparejamatesanz4710 You literally can, Rageblade is reverted to pre mythic so it is not a crit modifier, people before the mythic system always built rage IE
Bro wtf is "ukshin" its "Akshan" (A-ka-shawn) he literally says his name when he revives an ally.
Sundered Sky has a 6 second CD *per target.*
At 1:04, on the left clip, it's obviously not procing (no crit, no healing)...
And you can make that CD lower with runes
I don't know if Dan or whoever wrote the script even actually play the game. Half of this video is just complete nonsense. Hardly any of it is accurate or correct. Their explanations about the items and the context around it in the new season are mostly all wrong, but sometimes they couldn't even read the item text properly. 🤦♂
@@ShadowRaZeV1Agreed. They didn't even know that you can't build Navori + IE in the same build. 🤦🏿♂️
Yep it wasn't proccing , thats why it seems worse than triforce rush. There was a bug in pbe where sundered sky couldn't proc. Would've been dumb to make an item comparison with that bug
Exactly. Like, the bug is 100% Riot's fault, but it's completely inexcusable for the video makers not to realise is was occurring while using it as context for their explanation. Honestly pretty pathetic for how credible they claim they are.@@Shirosaki_Ichigo
Riot: "We want to give mages more item opportunities and diversify their options."
Instead: "Removing valuable enough ap items; making the craziest magic resist item."
Ffs, void staff should be buffed to 50% mp, no joke.
Or they should let us build void and crypt bloom at the same time
@@thuroria7631 Yeah I was looking at the mage items and it does seem there is more diversity this time around
Void staff actually got nerfed because it costs more. It giving more ap doesn’t make up for the fact that you need 200 more gold to access the magic pen
We need a 14.1 tier list based on your thoughts ❤
You still cant buy infinity and navori. And its not because they are mythics, but because they have a unique effect like sterak or maw, so either you just mistaken, or you dont really play the game)
Yeah. None of the people who made this video have any idea how the game works.
I started playing league the season mythic items joined, so I don't know the optimal way to build without mythics. Therefore, this guide was pretty helpful for me!
For folks watching this post-S14 launch here's some things that I think are worth noting, but weren't covered here (probably because of things being slightly different on PBE, or maybe I just have different priorities lol):
RIFTMAKER
- Riftmaker has Demonic Embrace's old bonus hp -> ap conversion passive.
- Riftmaker's Omnivamp now applies at 100% for AoE and Pet damage (can't find the previous value for how much it was reduced by for those)
- Riftmaker's damage ramp passive stacks with Liandry's damage ramp passive. Unsure if it's multiplicative or additive. Assume additive.
- Thoughts: these changes make Rift an attractive option for folks like Swain and Vlad and other mages that want a survivability oriented option for ability haste
MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ITEMS
- Infinity Edge and Navori Quickblades are mutually exclusive "critical strike capstone items" like they were before being made mythics.
- Terminus, Lord Dominik's Regards, Mortal Reminder, and Serylda's Grudge are all mutually exclusive "armor penetration capstone items" (the latter 3 were before, Terminus is new). Terminus should probably be more evaluated against these choices than as a rush item. Given its stats, it's probably best on hybrid damage dealers; folks that value the attack speed over crit chance or slow; and folks that want extra survivability.
- Spellbalde items (Essence Reaver, Iceborn Gauntlet, Trinity Force, and Lichbane) are all mutually exclusive. No big deal here. Worth re-iterating that point about Sundered Sky *not* being a spellblade item, so it works with any of the others.
GUINSOO'S RAGEBLADE
- Guinsoo's no longer converts crit and can be built with either IE or Navori (IE and Quickblade are mutually exclusive)
- With crit no longer being converted, this means the on hit is a max of 30 as opposed to the previous max of 180 at 100% crit. More realistically, the on hit was maxing around 120 with three crit items since most users would pick up other on-hit effects over crit chance.
- Rageblade's extra-on-hit effect works with Krakenslayer's passive again
- Thoughts: Rageblade's crit-to-on-hit-dmg conversion going away is probably a bit of a wash in terms of raw dps for most of the game, probably a slight dps loss early, then more dps later, particularly with a crit kapstone item. It'd be a lot of math to figure out the actual damage gain/loss from no longer converting crit. Many Rageblade users were already taking Kraken, so this is a straight buff to them. Rageblade with crit allows a lot of folks to have their cake and eat it too. Akshan and Vayne in particular come to mind. Akshan has crit chance scaling on his ult that he can benefit from while building rage blade, already builds kraken, and can still build an IE to ramp up crit even more. Vayne's q damage can crit, which she no longer gives up with rageblade; she already likes Kraken; and an IE later on adds some gross burst potential.
TENACITY ITEMS
- Sterak's Gauge no longer gives 30% tenacity when the shield pops, instead it has a flat 20% tenacity as a main stat. Probably an overall buff.
- Wit's End was reworked a good bit. It no longer gives AD and the movement speed on-hit was removed. It now grants more attack speed and MR, and includes 20% tenacity as a main stat. On-hit damage was unchanged. I think this effectively changes it from a hybrid damage-defensive item to more purely defensive. It's one of the few ways to add tenacity to your build if you really don't want to give up berserker greaves (Yasuo, Yone, ADC's), but you're not gaining much in the way of damage unless you're heavily leaned into on-hit effects already. Might allow you to forgo another attack speed item for a bigger damage item elsewhere in your build.
There's a lot going on in this season's changes. This was a great video summing up a lot of it. Me writing this stuff out is mainly just organizing my thoughts for myself, but if someone else gets value out of it, awesome.
Great breakdown ty
Thanks Ezreal Very Cool
you mentioned that you can build both quick blade and IE, but in truth you can only build 1
so essentially we need an item banning phase before picking champs now
Think the first test of Sky is bug. If your first build the item and them genetare the dummy, dont proc the extra damage. You notice it cause it should be a crit, but instead just normal aa
Ain't no way Akali is building Rocketbelt if it'll only have 60 AP and No MPEN.
Yeah it’s shadowflame storm surge I’d say
imagine hitting r2 on someone while having shadowflame
ROA into liandry into riftmaker then cosmic drive will be my initial build on lillia i think. Will see what other lillia mains do and adapt as the season goes
it sounds like new season is a nerf for lilia. She was a good pick against tanks but now demonic removed and tanks are buffend by heavy mr items.
@@felix90708 I think she will still be good but not too broken cuz Liandry and riftmaker along with her max health burn and true damage in her kit is still good. We'll have to see how good it is in live servers tho
Cryptbloom sounds like it has a lot of potential on AP assassins/bruisers.
Champs like Sylas, Rumble and Ekko could make some good use out of it.
LISTEN MAGES!!! Now that mythic passives are removed don’t be afraid of going lost chapter into a separate item that doesn’t build it. Just to sustain mana in early game!!!! Don’t be afraid to patch work really strong comp items together
I was using voltaik cyclosword + profane hydra on khazix and I almost one shot everyone easily. You can reduce into half hp of squishy champs just by using voltaik cyclosword alone. Amazing items , you don't even need collector to one shot squish champs.
When is season 14 live ?
10th of January
I personally tried to do Storm Surge first (playing akali) .. it was ok but something was missing (was also playing against galio mid w aftershock)... it was ok dmg on everyone except galio ... my final build was Surge , pen boots, Belt, Shadow, Bloom and Dcap .. later switched bloom for Void stuff ... but still surge wasnt as good as they hyped it up to be .. electrocute runes w triumph and coup de grace as well .. maybe just bc the first match
Around 1:40, when they're talking about the sundered sky vs triforce comparison, the empowered sundered sky auto actually isn't triggering on the target dummy, otherwise it would look fairly equal if not closer to the sundered sky damage.
I would argue against Malzahar rushing Malignance tbh. Liandry's has been core for Malzahar to actually do any meaningful amount of damage, and malignance simply doesn't provide enough for him, considering he does piss poor damage without Liandry's. Malzahar might gravitate towards getting an early tear for mana sustain, and still opt towards rushing liandry's and rylai's.
I think you're dramatically underestimating both the Malignance passive's damage increase and the effect of the ultimate haste.
Why is reworked riftmaker absent from this entire video?
How did they miss discussing the modified Zeke's Convergence. Thing is going to be insane on supports like Rell and Rakan.
It instantly procs fioras ult , probably not that great for the stats but maybe you could buy it later
Because no one cares about sup
Elite500 is playing Riftmaker into Liandry's into Deathcap on Vlad and its very strong as Vladimir's passive converts HP to AP and vice versa, and he has always done well in extended fights making the passives on both Riftmaker and Liandry's very strong on him. Cosmi Drive into Protbelt is another alternative depending on your playstyle, but having like 4k health end game on a mage like Vlad feels so good
Im a zilean and ivern main but i played my first match today and was so lost. This helped me a bit. So appreciated the content
Was hoping they would talk about the Sword of Blossoming Dawn. It seems like it could be strong but idk how I would incorporate it.
You can't buy both IE and Navori, huge misinfo (At least this is what i saw while playing Pbe on GP recently, like 2 days ago)
you can´t build navori an IE at the same time and also de comparison between trinity and the new item is wrong cause the pasive of the new item is not active on the dummy
For Akali I think Stormsurge rush into Shadowflame would be a lot better for the snowball
PLEASE PUT A DISCLAIMER NOTE ON THE SCREEN ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO BUY IE AND NAVORI BOTH. THAT INFORMATION IS WRONG, AND YOU ARE SPREADING IT.
This!
I think this is incorrect 19:20 you actually cant buy IE and quickblades together.
There's a few items that actually do that as well. No Immortal shieldbow with Maw. Which makes sense as their passives are the same. I think IE mistakenly has it's passive missing?
Cryptbloom has 15Haste and Void Staff has none!
The tradeoff is +15Haste and the Heal-on-takedown proc for 10AP and 10% MagicPen
There is a lot more AP in the item system now, and significantly less Haste on Mage items, so 10AP isn't much at all to miss out on for 15Haste.
My first ARAM Ziggs build had 1528AP just in his inventory at full build, without calculating in any runes or the elixir, or the Deathcap amp on those. And that was going with Cryptbloom and Banshee's. If you want to go Banshee's, then the opportunity cost of not picking up Haste in that slot makes the Haste on Cryptbloom even more attractive.
So against Squishies who might build Maw or Wits or Banshees, but you can still try to burst them in skirmishes and fights where you have some help, you get your second rotation up faster and heal your Frontline to keep going.
Against tanks it's going to depend on the math between the extra pen on VoidStaff and the extra Haste to poke at them with a Liandry's build. Most Liandry's users are battlemages now instead of burst mages like Ziggs and Lux who really want Horizon Focus, Stormsurge and potentially then Shadowflame if they're able to be dealing the last damage to targets rather than initial poke, but I definitely still took Cryptbloom on Ziggs in at least the ARAM game I played him, to spam more area control and bombs. And he could still take Liandry's if there are enough tanks, or that is the only person he can safely hit reliably.
Being able to take buffed FoN and Rook into his minefield is going to make controlling tanks a nightmare if they're allowed to stack MR instead of Armor, though.
I've tried Malignance on Brand as it can also apply the passive to everyone it hits and Rylai's second to keep them in the zone (5 zones making a HUGE zone), Liandry's third.
Even if the other option had more stats and greater damage output, it seems just right to build the burning area item to the burning mage
yea that item together with rylais will also be core on rumble i feel like
@@The_oli4 Rumble doesn't use mana. Liandry's rush on Rumble like some time ago.
@@elbigotesdelatienda Oh i didn't mean you should skip liandy's but I do think after the 3 item combo of liandry, malignance and rylais you are basically unstoppible
U can´t build both IE and Navori
I'm a miss double burn builds.😥Old Liandrys & Demonic Embrace together was really fun on some champs.
Me trying to incorporate item knowledge to my gameplay:😵💫
Did they or did I miss Hubris
you can not build navori and IE it locks the other item just FYI
4:16 wtf was that lux Q lol 🤣🤣
I wasn't sure it was an ai speaker until I heard him say "ukshin" around @17:30
either that or he just genuinely cannot pronounce the name "akshan" (ahk-shahn)
Why do I feel like Sundered Sky might work on Jhin with that guaranteed crit for his lethality build? Would be good poke for his early game at the least.
wouldn't surprise me tbh
You cant build infinity and Quickblades on the same build. I tried it on Nilah and it wouldnt let me since both have "crit modifier" unique passive on them.
Infinity Edge and Navori cant be stacked, even though theyre not mythics, they are crit modifier item and can only buy 1 of those
i feel like Jax will abuse the Trinity Titanic combo, that made him OP 4 years ago, also he might become a good jungler again with the old tiamant. Going full tank after those 2 items.
You can't build quick blades and infinity edge, building one locks out the other. Same with sheen items and armor pen items.
Challenger "EXPERTS" can't check that IE and Navori DO NOT STACK in S14 before rushing to make a clickbait video with flase info
Yup. Maybe it was Dan's fault, or maybe the scriptwriter just doesn't play the game. Idk.
19:25 IE and NQB cannot be built together. They are both "Crit Modifier" items so mutually exclusive.
Wondering about what ap Shaco jg is gonna build now...
Also guess Fiddle will be like the second Nocturne: even autofilled jungler does have a chance of winning as him bcs of how strong his kit is, and new items seem to be in his favor as well ( 40% of my matches being against nocturne only prove that right)
Incoming Nocturne nerf
@@lockerroomtalk97 he only got buffed recently instead
I main Rengar and Poppy right now in emerald, might add Noc to the mix@@rl55555
You play Shaco AND fiddle?
Jesus, you're disgusting
Nocturne is going to be very strong as the map makes it harder to gank now and he pretty much bypasses that. Will prob be my ban.
Wait holy shit I'm in a skillcap video! That section talking about AP jungles with the Diana gameplay I was the Senna in that game lmao. I was watching and saw the Senna walk into the jungle and die and was like, "Yup same" but then I saw a Xayah and was like, "Hey wait a second, I remember that exact thing happening to me."and then I saw it was Star Guardian Senna and I was like, "Wait that's actually me!"
I saw the rotation into the jungle and I thought, "I bet you they are just waiting in the bush to catch me rotating, I've seen Skill capped's videos." But I still took the 50/50 and walked in and sure enough, there was the Diana lol
support so much stronger? Pretty sure it's already one of strongest roles in the game lol, can't wait for S14
Ban ap champs, take double magic resist in runse, tenacity boots every game, at least 1 or 2 magic resist item that are make u tank or anti burst for mages. (every game until sp item get balanced)
5:15 keep in mind maokai who took absolutely no dmg from full lux combo would tale 50-70% of her health bar in one combo btw :D
lvl 18 full build jgl vs lvl 13 sup diff tbf
for the newbs out there, Stormsurge is just a revived DFG... and it won't last 2 months, because it was broken back then and it will be now, even more.
Solstice slay would be more of an enchanter item...it'll proc on soraka Q, janna W, lulu Q, W or R, Sona E auto or Ult, maybe not so much on milio unless youre good at landing Q, and it will scale off of the heal+shield power they normally build, also gives them movement speed as well to kite. Sure it'll be good on engage supports as well but idk why highlight them over enchanters.
If anything the sheen support item will be lovely in the hands of engage champs like nautilus, leona and thresh, as it will make their damage in lane that much more oppressive, while also boosting their ally dps for free (Though I feel Thresh would like the damage reduction more since it allows for more playmaking potential)
You cannot build both IE and quickblades....
any shaco mains playing ap know what will be the new build now? Is liandry rush still a thing without the mana on support?
u forgot about lethailty adcs getting alot of new stuff. Miss fortune looks op this patch.
19:14 - You _literally_ cannot build Navori and IE at the same time.
Did you guys even play the patch before making this video...?
LEGIT ADC is getting the shaft, i dont understand why they hate adcs
Riot hates ADCs. But let's look at it positively - enjoy them now before they nerf them even more
So then morgana's build stays mostly unchanged? Except for the changes to zhonyas...
Well for once I got exactly the info I needed, the buy order for Fiddle. I spotted Malignance as a must buy as soon it was revealed but wasn't sure where to put it in his rocketbelt/Zhonya core.
Overall and without the stopwatch rune it feels a bit like a nerf, or at least less power spike.
I'll miss the early tower dive with stopwatch.
Can you buy both "tear" items again? If so, Ezreal could be back on top
I don't think so.
As a brown boi, the way he says "Akshan" as it is meant to be pronounced hits the spot 👍
Don't rush stridebreaker on Aatrox!
It's a situational item that works best against ADC's top and teams that have too much range!
You want to prioritize Sundered sky for short trades, since it stacks with his AA passive.
You can also build Trinity force when dealing with long fights!
Does anyone know why you can't buy certain items together? If you buy something another items or a couple might get locked. I hovered over things, looked at passives, but nothing tells me why that occurs. It's like buying a mythic, then the other mythics would be locked unless you sold your current one.
Isnt hecarim crazy op with this new MS Lethalyty Item. Cause of his Passiv to gain AD from MS. Its like free a teamfight win after killing the first takedown, right?
you called an item mythic warly on btw. also ie and quick blades is still either or
Is that the new champ?? @5:14
we need season 14 man. its january already but still boring mythicsss
swain is going to be an absolute menace if he can build malignance, rylais, riftmaker and liandries lol
Teemo is a top lane ap bruiser according to this video where he is mentioned in name but never shown. I'm sorry what?
$20 budget for the video. Sorry we couldn't fit him in.
what about qiyana jungle?
How people going to build galio mid? I went everfront then MR or AR depending on enemy team comp
Love your content but could you please show the names of the items as well?
“And mythic items no longer existing” wait WHAT
Should you go for Stormsurge over Shadowflame for Leblanc AP?
Please guys, what is the name of the song sounding in the background?
I am otp kindred with the change of objects I thought that finally the build on hit and bruiser would go away and I would return to build critical
But it still builds on hit
This wouldn't bother me if it was the old kindred but the new kindred was supposed to eliminate this kind of builids.
I don't know how riot is ignoring this when they wanted to make kindred a critical adc.
I just wonder, did you think about mages building tear+liandry? Not every mage is that much depended on mana
Lyandris losing mana means nothing for Brand. Did people forget his passive gives him free mana?
What about a champion like Azir? Would he go something like Nashor's into Ludens?
As an Irelia main.... I am frustrated with what to build
obviously items like kraken and botrk outdamage terminus but why arent u considering the mr and armor youre getting from it? this matters in early 1v1s and 2v2s
ever since they reworked ghostblade, lethality shadow assassin has always been using ghostblade, while noobs built dusk blade
Am I missing something or will experimental hexplate be insane on Vayne?
I like how nobody here checked if u can even run IE and Navori, they lock eachother if u buy one :/
I would love to see them reverting items back, this season is boring. As ARAM player, build diversity on champions went down hill. Season 11, 12 was so fun and that was because of items. I don't even want to touch many champions anymore. This is so sad.
Can’t complain since I hated the mythic item concept since it came out .
I'm really unsure that Malz shouldnt just go tear liandires anyway. That burn was so important to give you poke threat. He really doesn't need damage on his R because you arn't trying to solo people that often anyway. You are setting up other people in skirmishes. He doesn't need burst damage on his R. If he get's off a good ult he is going to win damage or not. He needs to poke threat on his q. Unless the item genuinely makes you a 1v1 threat which im suspicious of.
i used to do that last season and tried it this season too but i found that malignance , then liandry's and then shadowflame is my preferred build.i play mostly malz but im also really not that high elo so it might work for me because my oponents aren't challenger or anything like that.
The thing with malz is that he honestly is a minion early game and even with liandry's the damage is not there early game. Unless the enemy laner is an idiot and he is tanking your e when you use it to farm, your r doesn't matter because you only kill if he already is low hp or if he again is an idiot and tanks tower shots trying to poke you or all in you and you just r.
@@erthkin6272 When Liandries had lost chapter and could be built first I found that I could do pretty significant damage from q poke. Or and E bounce from minion into a q reset is pretty significant when liandries is going that whole time. You get one of those or three q pokes and you are ready for a flash ER all in.
And it can be done without being your focus. And e bounce is just a natural conclusion of pushing that you can maybe force with a well placed q to clear faster when you see and opportunity. And your q will be up again for a reset if done right.
Another reason this build worries me is the lateness of rylais. Rylais is so important in Malzahars ability to disengage in the sidelane. As a solo laner you will sometimes find yourself 1v1 with the top laner in the side lane and the ability to lane a slow and make yourself safe is so important for this.
I'm worried for malz. Burst ain't his thing.
@@peacefulwarrior9518 i have abandoned rilay's, i think the other items i mentioned before are just better right now, the rest is playing with the jungler to get both of us fed with free kills with r on mid or jungler, and if you can get ahead in late rilays isn't even needed , they will only kill you in sidelane if they stack on you and malz most of the time can't deal with that even with rilays
I'm really lost to what buy for Aurelon soul
No more crown ? How do I make Annie strong after that ? I need protection
Git gud
Jk
that item should never had been in the game lmao. as a toplane bruiser player, i can tell you that blowing your whole rotation on a mage when you arent behind in items and seeing them lose only 25% of their hp is not it.
Is nashors tooth gone if so Diana will be non satisfying
what would i build as ksante/ tham top
We can't have navori and IE at the same time unfortunately