Why You SUCK at JUNGLE (And How to Fix It) - League of Legends
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Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
1:13 - Look, it's you!
2:17 - Mistake 1
3:43 - Recall Timings
5:07 - Why Lee Sin?! Why?!
5:54 - Mistake 2
8:43 - Well, Lee Sin is blind after all...
10:14 - Mistake 3
11:34 - Tower Diving
13:25 - What about low elo...
15:53 - Invading/Hovering
18:33 - Poor, poor Lee Sin...
19:41 - Mistake 4
21:44 - Playing Around the 3 Zones
22:37 - Lee Sin is in the DANGER ZONE!
23:30 - Mistake 5
25:01 - Lee Sin NEEDS Skill Capped
26:26 - Baron Tactics
29:20 - Lee Sin REALLY Needs Skill Capped
30:50 - Outro
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Bro is too good he gives us free lessons that he sells 🗿
DW he got paid, fair enough 😜
@@ebb_n_flotrue haha. He also gives them more personalized help when he coaches so idk. He says exactly what they’re specifically doing wrong.
Chad
I think every laner should watch this guide
Real talk lol. You know they are gonna miss waves, never push mid, and make awkward rotations that throw off your whole plan!
Finally the moment we all have been waiting for! I was literally looking for this video last week and was bummed out when I couldn't find it. Thanks!
18:27 that lucian last hitting gromp would've tilted me so hard
anger issues
1. Spending Gold
2. Cross Mapping
3. Identifying Winning and Losing Lane
4. Mid and Late game Macro
5. Vision Exploit
Most people wont believe me, but I'm going to highlight why a lot of advice like this, while making complete sense in a vacuum, does not apply to actual low elo games as much as they try to make it seem.
I was jungling around mid-high gold, the enemy jungler was a Diamond last season. I forego much of my camps in favor of making sure the majority of my lanes win, while he chose to farm. Yes I'm losing camps to him, not every gank was successful, and I’m behind their jg.
BUT, here's the reason why we won.
Because I was there to support my teammates shitty decisions to fight at bad times, while he was there to support only his own correct decisions, like taking my camps. Jungle is a weak role in terms of gold and experience. While he was getting ahead of me, my teammates were getting ahead of his teammates.. AND him. That is what made the difference and that is why I won.
Moral of the story is, you have to adapt to every match, and each elo has its own version of League to play. These videos try to extrapolate higher elo tactics with winning in low elo, when more often than not, while they can be helpful insights, they aren't the biggest difference maker.
true , low elo is like total chaos ; teammates would insult U for starting baron xD .
Anecdotal evidence on 1 example doesnt tell you what is better.
I believe you won one game that you remember the game that you played.
For that diamond player it could be one of many similar games in which his team just wasnt up to par with enemy team.
It this big myth that high ranking players win every game.
They dont. Ti climb they need to be consintent across many game which doesnt have to translate into each particular.
@@tomashruby9349 What... thi whole video is anecdotal.
@@tomashruby9349 You assume that this hasn't happened more than 1 game when in fact it's been going on all season long in my 200 games. That example was chosen because it was very recent. I'm constantly against people who last season were plat, emerald, and in rare cases, diamond, and even one case of masters (I won that game too btw). I'm winning around 50% of my games, and I'm aware that High elo players don't win every game even when smurfing (I'm not new to this game).
Adaptability is a necessity EVERY game, which is not anecdotal.
@@Chhipzwhat elo are you that you get matched with plat emerald dia and masters?
at 5:20 that was a clutch demonstration and exactly what i wanted to see than you for that
Very helpful. Thank you!
Great guide with easy explanation 👏
I've been waiting for this!
Nope, blame every loss on team
Too late, team already blamed the loss on me
@@sasquatch6785don't lie
Annnnd that's why you will keep losing.
I love how this should be an average gold game.. I can tell you right now. THAT AIN'T A GOLD GAME BROTHER! They play WAY to well for gold.
I'm a masters support/jg player and ngl I been doing with my buddy in plat and holy shit Is it bad lol still 68% er but like so many people queue up to lose on purpose and it's insane to me. Why play just to be mad. Happens in masters to but not nearly as often
cope
@@TheKittyClink I think a lot of players are just sick of the smurfmania these days and tilt to the moon. Every 2nd game level 40-50 account, just no fun at all
Ranked divisions are just placebo effects ;)
@@jimi2521that’s not happening often . trust me I just clicked thru gold if you have decent macro and deaden when you need too you climb out of gold easy
Solid, I learned something and got a refresher why I sucked. Thanks!
I used these strategies today and even though I haven't played jg in so long (on top of never being great at it) I still did pretty great! Thank you for the guide
crazy! nice guide ty my man
I just want to say i reckon this is one of the best guides you guys have done, the format is really nice.
It was really cool seeing that game where lee sin was running ariund on a rampage, and then seeing why he lost. I always feel like these are the best games to analyse because you should be able to win then with your lead.
I think of myself as a fairly good jg, but the tips in this video really gave me some food for thought and taking my thinking to another level
Now I’m just waiting for a support one that isn’t just about enchanters
I'm wanting something that isn't about meta support
One of the best videos about jungling so far. It reminds me of many very basic but important things that I have forgotten and made me struggle for long time. Since watching this I can now handle master and well against diamond opponents. Of course to stomp them I might need to learn more. Something that only grandmaster and challenger players know and do well😂
fantastic series.
No way this is free on TH-cam! Thank you Skillcapped!
The real reason why we suck at jungle: our bot lane goes 0/4 until we finish 1st clear and spams „jg diff, ff 15 go next, ky!“
As a high master player myself I have to addmit: This is a great Video. So much effort, so many examples, very well thought through, nice animations and very nice om the spot pacing.
One of the greates edutaining league content Videos I have ever seen. Well done!
Don't forget that collect zone does not exist in low elo. You push the wave and no one respond... Instead the wave slowly bounces and if someone on your team go respond, all enemies will right click into it. Because all that matters are KDA. The other scenario is you respond and your team go fight with number disavantage and die.
I suck at jungle because of the slow or no reaction from team players... and thanx
It's so weird seeing the old Dr. Mundo in the new Baron Nashor pit
What if every lane is losing? I often have games where all my laners go 0/5 by the 10 min mark.
So I hit diamond 2 with outplays snowballing and being confident when outnumbered when I could have just played smarter and made my life easier with basic rules. Man do I feel silly
No cap, I actually learned so much from this video. I’ve actually been winning more games on my Smurf as jungle. Also the won games stem from learning other fundamental stuff like wave management and it’s been easier to predict what I need to do based on that. Thanks for the free lesson 😎
Sadly 'people' in Iron to Gold would already surrender if opponent's jungler plays like Lee Sin lol. These advices only works for mid elo and higher.
Cool you show us a long video❤
today im gonna buy it to learn mid and zed, can someone say to me is skill capped worth
The baron bait is near impossible in lower elo brackets, it requires too much coordination, and most of the time, allies keep hitting it for a 50/50 instead of turning, it's infuriating
I would love to see the “why you suck at ADC” Season 14 edition ❤️
Yeah just wait for next patch when the role changes completely then they can make it
29:30 one of the being a jugnler and marking skarner instead of graves, ah skill capped...
That's a whoopsie
not a Jungler , but i might learn something that impacts my laneing
Should i place ward enemy jg at the start of the game and recall to buy oracle or nah?
If you can get a good quality ward without dying that is good. You can get oracle immediately or you can wait a bit before switching off yellow if you want to keep wards for more of the early game. You should always get oracle eventually, unless you have a very good specific reason not to
@@garagavia ty sm
I agree. One jg coach I've seen recommends yellow in early game so when you counter jg you can ward their jg and more easily figure out their pathing.
I suck at jungling cause I play junglers that are not very strong in early, and in this season powerfarming jungle camps is absolutely useless. You MUST gank gank and gank again to even be able to not fall off in levels.
I used to steal the first red or blue buff of the enemy (seriously, in 90% of my games), ruining my opponent's life. Now I don't even care anymore, feels like it's pointless, almost a waste of time. They don't give a damn even if I take their first red. They gank anyway with their early game champs, and get kills or assists. Meanwhile, I get ahead in terms of jungle clear, but I am ALWAYS behind in terms of levels. So guess what? I can't 1vs1 anyone until late game, and if I get counterganked, even the 2vs2 is an autoloss.
Actually, power farming is still great but due to reduced exp from camps, ganking should also be integrated in your skillset while also being able to clear camps quickly. I mean I play Khazix and you really need to farm to hit 6 to start to come online but also taking ganks that are very free if your lanes have cc or have the wave set up on their side.
Taking 1 camp even if it's a buff is ALWAYS useless, the time it takes for you to take 1 buff and walk over to your own jungle again is the time the enemy jungler is about to start his 3rd camp so its pretty much irrelevant. You either should look for 2 or 3 camps or don't invade at all if you think it's too risky
Wtf, you are so wrong, you probably just don't know how to play the champions you're trying to play. Just look at the statistics, powerfarming junglers are the strongest this season (evellyn still S tier after nerfs, Master yi was S tier before nerfs, Brand is S+++ tier, Bel Veth is S++ tier, Karthus is S tier...). However the early game junglers are the worst, just look at the winrate of lee sin, graves, rengar, olaf (even after 3 consecutives jungle buffs) they are all ~48% win rate in D tier. The problem here is DEFINITELY not the meta.
i hate to tell you powerfarming is probably the strongest its been. you still have to have pressure on obj and lanes but a farming jg is very strong this season. Literally clear quadrant, is there a gank? no? go next quadrant and repeat
@@lucascarra8938Power farming still works on champs like Diana shyvana and karthus but it's absolutely not the strongest it's been. Ganking is still critical in the current meta
its just sad that i makr baron calls when they are completely free and almost nobody even follows up, so many timea i just give up and ward it since my team will only come when the ememy is trying to do it
Dose this work in wild Rift too?
Still waiting for Korean pathings, this concepts are very gold~plat oriented
Best intro lol 🤣
18:28 Lucian stealing his camps is just fucked. I would have reported him, and spam pinged him the rest of the game.
LOL….
Tbh in my region nobody ever contests anything and never counter ganks so when I just follow them around the map and gank where theyre ganking they just get caught out
ever since i started watching these videos my rank just gets lower and lower and lower. im now in iron 4. i am still trying to learn but so far it has no been successful.
It looks like I am the Vi in that second example :P If this is actually the case and memory serves me well, I would rather say as a platinum/emerald jungler I am not inclined to play towards losing sides (or their objectives) and bot was already designed as losing side in that game. Als, it was a normal game, therefore I don't usually play at 101% in normals :P
Always the personal timing
I tried this method and it works every single game but still my team mates just roaming around wondering what they should do next and leaving me do the objective alone until the enemy comes to contest and I have nothing to do because it's a 2 on 1 or 3 on 1 scenario 😕😕😕
I mean if my bot lane would stop going 0/24 between the two of them I might actually win a game. Most of my losses are decided by if I have normal people on my team, or people who run it down every minute.
if actually believe this you are so delusional. stop blaming teammates and just focus on your own gameplay. there's literally nothing to gain from focusing on others performance, you'll just inhibit your own
U are insane thinking only he is the problem @@henrikhillemyr4894
Why am i watching this? I'm not gonna play jungle anytime soon
do you guys have master in mins on all the champions?
My issue is i always play like I'm ahead in the early game
poor lee sin got put on BLAST rip
This was two weeks ago where is the bot lane edition LOL
Check this Friday 😉
we here early afternoon
I’ll play it as in 2 top 1 mid 2 bot
Holy fuck thats my game???? Thats me on lee sin hahahhahaha
I just left a game cause how tilted I was and I went on TH-cam to see some guides for jungle a I saw some videos and I came across this I haven't seen it yet but I'm ready to save iron 4 0 LP I'm gonna make it a better place
fuckin dogshit iron 4 leaving games, classic
that's why you're hardstuck
Rofl 🎉
18:27 report lucian fr
I want to add one thing about cross mapping. There are times when it is much better to clear than to cross-map contest an objective, getting ahead in gold and exp can create many opportunities down the line, despite temporarily being down an objective.
That's why going for the ENEMY camps is mentioned. If you're across the map while the enemy is getting something done, you don't want to just let them do that while you afk farm. You getting a little personal farm alone is not enough to make that worth the enemy jungler killing your laners or getting an objective. Your farm isn't helping your team, so always go for your ENEMY'S farm, that way you're actually indirectly doing something to help your team by weakening the jungler a bit.
In general, the ONLY time when it's better to just clear your camps instead is when there's no way you can safely do anything else. It's never a GOOD decision to just farm your camps while the enemy jungler is doing something better and idk where you heard that, that's how shyvanas in bronze lose so much.
How is it that no one talks about the games where no one wards or follows up toward or pings or listens to pings or anything like that or teammates that do whatever they want leave Lane don't get cs and then blame you when they die and you're on the other side of the map why am I getting pings and top and I haven't even cleared my red side jungle yet having a positive mindset and a optimistic outlook on your game doesn't change the fact that my bot Lane is 18 CS 0-4 Cait yummi at 8mins
Dw guys when there’s three lanes going 0/5 before you even reach 13 min doesn’t mean you suck does mean gg though
Wow I’m early today
Dragon, not Draygon*
Its a very nice video, but sadly doesnt help if laners are already feeding 0/6 at 6-10 mins into the game up to 40 deaths total. Or if your Jungle gets suddenly invaded by the whole enemy team for some reason at raptors. WHO TF TEAM WIPES RAPTORS, its just chaos in 60% games in Silver and Gold.
Tell me what to do when all three lanes are fed and I am suppose to carry now?? Also there are two tanks in enemy team.
Ff and alt f4
Farm and look for shutdowns. Recognize that the game is hard and will probably be a loss. Some games are very hard to win or even impossible, other games are free. Don't overfocus on trying to win the extremely difficult ones like you are describing, just do what you can, get some learnings and move on. League is not the kind of game where you can win every time.
Just do your best (or ff, whichever floats your boat) and hope next game is better. You can't win them all, even a challenger smurf in iron doesn't win them all.
But what can you do as a Jungler when 3 of your lanes go 0-3 within 5 minutes?
Farm and look for shutdowns. Recognize that the game is hard and will probably be a loss. Some games are very hard to win or even impossible, other games are free. Don't overfocus on trying to win the extremely difficult ones like you are describing, just do what you can, get some learnings and move on. League is not the kind of game where you can win every time.
I showed my cat this video and he turned into rengar???
yo wtf is this. HOW IS THIS FREE?!
Where's the tip for when I am 12/1/15 but ALL my laners have died 15 times each? making it impossible to carry.
I'm stopped playing so idc that I suck now :)
Simple fix: pick Lee Sin
When I see the jungler top, I always ping my jungler dragon... if they choose no too, I take a deep breath and say "this going to be one of those games." The same goes for losing lanes, it always feels like the jungler helps those losing when the winning lane is ignored until we then lose enough time by 4v2's. Gets me thinking, should we have been losing harder to get some jungler attention.
But finally I just have to realize they are not pro players and neither am I.
Stop pinging what your jungler should do, that is not your job.
@@garagavia Easy for you to say when over 50% of all junglers are autofilled and have no idea what they're doing because everyone refuses to just learn to play the role. If your jungler is autofilled and has no idea they should even be considering a particular play, pinging it is pretty valid.
And this is coming from someone who plays a lot of jungle. I don't mind when my teammates ping me suggestions. It's only annoying when they rage ping all game and aren't making good contributions because they're upset the game isn't revolving around them. But there's a BIG difference between say the top laner dying and spam pinging "assist me" pings on the jungler for it, or the top laner dying and pinging that the enemy jungler is top and dragon's alive. One of those is just worthless rage while the other is actually useful information and a decent suggestion for what to do with it.
@@garagavia Easy for you to say when over 50% of all junglers are autofilled and have no idea what they're doing because everyone refuses to just learn to play the role. If your jungler is autofilled and has no idea they should even be considering a particular play, pinging it is pretty valid.
And this is coming from someone who plays a lot of jungle. I don't mind when my teammates ping me suggestions. It's only annoying when they rage ping all game and aren't making good contributions because they're upset the game isn't revolving around them. But there's a BIG difference between say the top laner dying and spam pinging "assist me" pings on the jungler for it, or the top laner dying and pinging that the enemy jungler is top and dragon's alive. One of those is just worthless rage while the other is actually useful information and a decent suggestion for what to do with it.
I wish I will be plat someday
bruh i just changed my role to jungle 😂 and i think i am doing good but i want to get batter
All I heard was its all the junglers fault for losses
jesus every couple of minutes is an ad for skill capped, like chill out on it for a min
FORSEN
I click because obviously I suck. I lose, so I suck. I get 5th place or better, and my teammates get 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th, but I suck, because I lose. Clearly I need to get better.
betetr than school
I suck at jungling because my team rights straight into 5v1 fights and then yells at me.
I suck because of AFKs on my team every other match.
I suck because bots are put onto my team to help the enemy team.
U suck cuz u suck bro
If you feel this way, take a break for a few days or a week. If the feelings persist, it's time to move on. Having a good relationship with the game is essential for it being a positive influence on your life. Knowing when to take a step back and assess, or even just walk away for good is very important
@@garagavia Quit hunting for negative comments to give them this same cookie cutter bullshit response. This game isn't a "positive influence" on ANYBODY anymore with the lack of proper punishment for bad behavior. There really are bots and toxic players everywhere currently, it's a valid complaint and it makes climbing a lot more stressful and time consuming. Maybe instead of trying to give LoL players your worthless discount wisdom to make yourself feel superior, you should just work on getting your head out of your ass.
Bro's stating the obvious for blind people like me and still doing a huge favor
Love the Video
But can you talk a bit slower in the next one?
Feels like, you alrdy start a new sentence before finishing the last one O_o
Have a great day!
Bro timing😭
This is a goldmine
Okay so what if all your lanes are 0-5? in a promo game?
why playing around a strong toplaner when you can run it down in bot? never change a losing team.
I don't suck at jungle! I can STOMP ANY I'm at the APEX of Bronze jungling 😎
Ok I don't care how low your MMR is, losing 75 LP after won loss because of a demotion is for sure not good for the game.
Some advice for you guys who are struggling to climb:
1. Play Support. If you don't know how to place a ward, leash the first camp for your jungler, positioning, pressing with the movement, timing for lv2 all in, tracking the enemy jungler, harass the enemies when they are trying to cs, focus to burst down a enemy with your ally, protect your ADC, roaming, create space, initiate a fight then you can't do a sh*t.
2. Play ADC, suffer their burnden, and maybe next time, you will pay attention to the enemy Warwick eating your ADC alive during a teamfight or skirmish.
3. If you want to climb up, you need to play Ashe. She is by far the most macro-orriented ADC with a strong early game, tools to track jungle or force the enemy bot duo lane into a bad fight. Her kit shares two build paths that can melt you down like an Odin in VALORANT or give you a slow, hurt f**king death. She is an ADC who can give your team and yourself an OPTION to make play or not.
She is immobile, perfect for learning how to manage your summoner's spells and positioning to not get caught in teamfight.
4. If you are in a game, give a "/mute all" to the chatbox and enjoy the game. Below the diamond rank, the chatbox is only used to spread toxicity.
5. Pray Odin to guilde you or give you a challenge to become stronger so that when your teammates throw the game, you won't surprise anymore. The second reason is, well, you are playing Ashe😂
Always like these comments that have nothing to do with the video and go on some long tangent. Hey man, make your own freaking video
@@CrocodileWhispers At first I though this guy was just making a point about how it's beneficial to know the skills and needs of other roles when you're jungling, but then they went off about why you should just play Ashe instead of jungle and idk.
I bought the lessons, but ironically I like the pacing of youtube better. I don't know why, but it feels like you guys like to sped up voice by 10/15%. While slowing it down is awful.
For non-natives, even quite good ones, it's quite taxing. Stopping the material seems like doesn't do the trick. Anyway, still good deal. I just feel like I have never ending covid brain fog.
The what! 20:05
stop insulting us
I agree with you, the thumbnail is rude for no reason
They do this now because some assholes said "that was funny keep doing it" when they started berating players for gags as a part of their routine in videos.
Because I belong to the kitchen
I'm better than you at jungle and this is pointless, the role just sucks. A few months from now they might give jng an actual buff but until then, don't waste your time
The thing is playing jungle is a coin flip no matter how much you ally these simple fundamentals as a junglers the game will still be dependent on your team responding to what's going on on the map which they wont 90% of the time in low elo. That's the reality all junglers have to face. I played to Silver one this season hoping I'd get to Gold but once I notice I was at a 52% win rate it's like the match making system start giving me players who are clearly not my level and it hit me all the way back to Silver 3 all because I'm getting players with 30-40% win rates to carry which I near impossible when the enemy lanes have similar WR to me not them, like I literally felt soo demotivated to play the game or ranked anymore because it feels like I'm being punished for doing my best and I'm not into that type of system.
Can add me if you want, I'm not high elo but I'm competent and you would probably have more fun not playing solo- Northc0ast
It is not a coin flip, you can influence the outcome greatly by how well you play. You cannot guarantee a win, but that does not mean the game is coinflip. If you feel this way, take a break for a few days or a week. If the feelings persist, it's time to move on. Having a good relationship with the game is essential for it being a positive influence on your life. Knowing when to take a step back and assess, or even just walk away for good is very important
The matchmaking system DOES start rigging games heavily against you if your winrate teeters over 50% (and does the opposite when it goes under 50%). Most people call it winners queue and losers queue, but it's more like being punished for winning too much or forgiven for losing too much. It's a really obnoxious system and it results in everybody at every elo experiencing massive 20 game win streaks followed by 20 game lose streaks that feel completely disingenuous and preordained.
But that doesn't mean the advice here is wrong. Yeah there are matches where you won't have any control, and the game 100% sets some of those matches up to be out of your control on purpose. But not every match is like that and having better fundamentals in the jungle will mean you'll outperform the enemy jungler more often than other players in your position.
@@garagaviait’s a coin flip
@@GigaLigma not saying the advice is wrong just feels like no matter what you do at times it feels pointless.
U can watch this video, ALSO WE TEACH HOW TO WATCH IN OUR COURSES
why YOUR mid-laner sucks (and how to fix it)
Please, Umti, watch this video.
he didn't
I usualy dont trust skillcapped, but i really need jungle guide
I dont wanna waste 30 minutes, those who watched, is this video actually helpful? Is there any good information for master player?
Yes these are very good concepts to apply to learn at any rank. The video can be very valuable, but you have to do more than just understand the concepts. You have to practice, to apply the concepts consistently takes a lot of time and discipline. Reviewing games helps you find your mistakes and what to focus on. Good luck.
Why don't you trust Skillcapped? They're literally the only guide service for LoL that's remotely worth using. Companies that make guides for this game generally suck so I get the skepticism but most of the players who work with Skillcapped are very good at it.
And yes, the video's pretty solid. It rehashes a lot of things that you should already know if you're actually a decent jungler, but if you aren't very good at jungling then you'll probably learn a lot from this.