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Yasuo should be one of the easiest champions. Simple kit, easy to farm with, not too complicated combos, a w that legit blocks like 70% of most mage's damage, high mobility and amazing in teamfights cuz his r shreds armor. I mean he can be punishing but his kit is very much one of the easiest to understand.
aphelios is one of the easiest champions to play. He has great sustain with severum (the pistol), push potential with infernum (flame thrower), good harass and safe farm tool calibrum (the rifle that grants him like 600 attack range), can cc with his gravitum (gravity gun), has insane dueling potential with chakram cuz if they get too close you just run them over cuz of the scaling attack speed and his sentry which is also amazing. He does not need to click any buttons aside from w, aa, and r. That's two less buttons to click, although you need to manage your ammo and learn what weapons to use for what it's really not that hard to pick up.
@@dundrasil reminds me of that ARAM game i had once. i played malzahar and the enemy akali stubbornly refused to respect my ult. punishing overextending assassins who think they can dash anywhere they want is oddly satisfying
As a long suffering Azir main I must say you kinda missed the ball on why he's difficult. It's not his combos that make him difficult, they can all be learned with enough practice and eventually the ol' Shurima Shuffle will come naturally. It's the fact that you have to micro up to 4 different soldiers and yourself, whilst simultaneously dealing with both the hardest parts of being a marksman (kiting and positioning) and the hardest parts of being a mage (ability usage and cooldown management).
yeah but thats with almost all champs , i otp qiyana , played azir once did a perfect shuriman shuffle , its not hard at all wat makes azir hard for me is to divide my attention between sand soldiers and myself and ofc his abysmally shit numbers
tbh azir is so easy to me, he shouldnt even be in the top 15 hardests. and aphelios shouldnt be there aswell there are other comments to explain why. im surprised elise isnt in there
Aphelios by mechanics isn't that difficult, he just looks really complicated and intimidating but when you get the weapon order and basic combinations down he becomes extremely fun to play.
Same with hwei its just more abilities than league players are used to but compared to like idk other forms of game where your character has 10's of abilities this isnt much
He is still so extremely weak and over nerfed in solo queue right now that you must have down and utilize his kit very effectively to keep up with the AVERAGE ADC champs in the majority of matchups. You are most often playing at a disadvantage and must be competent and confident enough in the role to use Aphe's utility and your superior micro(/macro) to come up with the outplays to be useful. I agree that getting down his gun order and kit isn't as difficult as it looks intimidating to newcomers. If they're committed to practicing it enough, anyone should have it down eventually-it just takes time. So I think the video and other comments-unlike yours- are wrong to focus on the gun order as the difficult part. It's how to utilize him competently in spite of his current weak position that becomes the demanding part. Sorry for getting so tangential under your comment.
I'd argue that Kalista is harder than Aphelios. Sure he's hard because you need to time what guns you have for objectives and team fights, but after a bit you get used to it and can play him somewhat intuitively since he's just another adc at the end of the day regardless of how many tools he has. Kalista on the other hand has specific movement selections that no other champion has. Her passive alone is strong, but if you devote yourself and the hours and games to learning her tech, her passive truly unlocks and she becomes the actual hardest champion in the game. She has specific options you need to toggle on to get the most out of her because just attack move clicking will hold you back from her full power and limit your movement. Her skill floor FEELS pretty low, you pick her up, spend a few games getting used to her movement and have some success and think "oh this champion is easy" but then you look into mastering her and dig through videos to find actual guides for her and you realize she's actually completely insane. The learning curve of going from new to mediocre is already insane and putting what you've practiced in the tool into real games and getting consistent with it is extremely difficult but so damn rewarding. Here's a video of her movement and other technical skills by a player SIGNIFICANTLY better than me and really hammers home just how insane the champion can be if played at a competent level th-cam.com/video/m6nXpsw02ts/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bhUl0mKRP8KPypW3 I think it's crazy that some people still think the Shuriman Shuffle is a hard tech when it's literally just timing a single button to get the most distance out of, but this Shadow Isles Slide requires precise timing for EVERY auto attack, changes timing when you buy attack speed items and level up, any changes in ping can throw off the timing, needs auto attack toggled on to perform consistently which means if you mistime it you start just WALKING and do no damage at all and lose your mobility until you input another attack command and get back into the rhythm of the slide AND this is all on a champion who has 2 buttons when alone and sometimes still 2 buttons when not alone. She is easily in the top 3 of hardest champions to master in the game just in terms of mechanics alone. The sheer difference of gameplay from when I had 20 games on Kalista and didn't know any of this tech to where I'm at after practicing it and getting mediocre, not even good, just mediocre, is like the difference between night and day.
as an aphelios main, i really wouldn't call him the hardest champion. most of the difficulty comes from just knowledge of what he does, it just comes with learning. tbh kalista is much harder as an adc
@@alessgr9394I mean im surprised Renata wasnt anywhere up, even tho she's probably the most skill based SUPPORT due to how specific and situational at the same time she is.
@@rojczan1399 i think thresh is way more skill based, the grab isnt easy neither extermely hard to hit but it depends on you reading your opponent well....
I remember when I started playing league like late 2021 - early 2022, my friends saw that I liked playing or trying difficult champions, specifically ADCs. So literally, before I even knew how to CS properly, they told me to try out Aphelios. I'm so happy to say that he was my first every M7 champion and I love playing him.
I learned how to play league on yone as my first ever character in late 2023, I couldn’t even cs properly when I decided yone top was what I wanted to try, he’s now mastery 10❤
@@lolxdlolmfaololxdd8879 Rank 1 OTP doesn't matter if the champion is hard to play or not. On a side note, I was very surprised to see Yi ranked as an easy champion. Sure, it's easy to pick up but being so incredibly hard countered by CC requires a huge understanding of the game to pull Yi off to a high level.
I love that fact that a lot of the hard to play champs according to this list like Pyke, Kindred or Aphelios aren't mechanically hard but it's acknowledged that it is hard to master the macro that is required for those champs
kindred is the only champ of these with hard macro, pyke is a feast or famine champ but also hypermobile so macro is less important then, and aphe requires exactly the same macro as every other adc,
I still believe that people that call Aphelios the hardest champion didn't even try him out. Aphelios is easy - the hardest part is spacing which is just... an adc thing, not Phel exclusive. He is surprisingly easy to understand and learn.
Phel isn't that mechanical of a champion, which is reflected by his surprisingly low skill floor, but playing him well requires you to actively think about weapon and ammo management as well as using every weapon to the maximum (like hitting every green mark or knowing how to use white turret and stacks), which translates to a high skill ceiling.
yep, mechanically he's not different from other adcs, i'd say draven is harder mechanical wise, the hard thing with phel is how much micromanagement u need to do in order to play him well, like do i get rid of this weapon? or should i save it? do i have enough ammo to actually do a full damage chakram or no? and thinking down to his passive like, do i max out the attack speed or ad first? all while playing an adc one of the hardest role in the game
@@callmeshifu4114 if we are talking about adc skill ceilings, Ezreal's is much higher than Aphelios. I do believe he is only on this list because of the 200 years meme.
This list is a bit contreversial because there is a big difference between skill floor and skill ceiling. For example: Xayah might be difficult to understand at first, but when you get down her basics she isnt that difficult to master. Viego on the other hand is quite easy to understand but theoratically is the hardest to master since you need to master all of your enemies' champs. I'd think making a hardest to pick up and a hardest to master list apart from each other would be better.
You can't say that viego technially the hardest champ because you just spam skills and use R again you don't have to be good at the champions you turned you just have to be decent with them and being decent on a champ is easy if you know its skills. If u turn into azir with viego u don't space and aa with every soldier you just spam 3-4 abilities and use R again
@@k0rizo hes talking about SKILL CEILING so ye u can spam moves and be decent but its about how hard it is to MASTER the champion which means u would have to use theese moves almost perfectly
@@k0rizo Ah yes, good job on completely both missing the point but also PROVING his point He literally said "Viego on the other hand is _quite easy to understand_ but _theoretically the hardest to _*_master"_* you just literally proved his point with your statement, yeah you can do well with just spamming abilities, but MASTERING it requires a lot more
Honestly as a person who actually plays Aphelios he's not hard mechanically but is hard in terms of macro and understanding as being able to shuffle your guns properly and having the right guns for the exact situations can be difficult sometimes but overall mechanically he's not that hard he's in Varus level of difficulty in mechanics to pull off his combos but around Azir level of macro difficulty to properly pull off
Yeah theres a Difference in a mechanically super difficult Champion and a champ thats difficult to understand. There are many Champs you nee d10+ games on the notvsuck , and many you only need one game to learn it but need General good mechanics (for example vayne)
If you’re someone who mains the champion the fact that you took a paragraph to try and explain why he isn’t hard lol. ADC is harder to play than most roles because of how punishing a single mistake is. Adding constant complexity and adaptability makes it harder. What’s your goal lmao
In some places the list feels accurate but in some places not and i think thats based on the voters ranks. As mentioned some champs skill floors and caps won't show until certain ranks. Ive never been higher than silver and some plays would absolutely not fly in a plat game, making some champs switch to the other side of the list. Typically high ranked players also have more knowledge about the game itself making "easy" champs for them possibly very difficult for lower ranks.
Simply Akali and Lee Sin feels so odd to be in hardest champs,when i would place them closely to easy. Reason is, they have low entry lvl, but high skill cealing. So yeah,i agree with ya
@@psychokuca302 truth. I haven't played either in a long time (I also hate melee / in your face champs) but when I have tried it wasn't too bad. There's definitely a learning curve to timing, but they also seem to fair well against really any opponent. So many akalis just run down lane and it's game over lmao
Yeap. and to add to that, for 1.5years now i had 2 mastery 8 toklens on akali,but never tried to even get last one. picked her on top and just casually ended gime like 10/2/something. Was one of the easiet games i played @@defectiveaffect
@@psychokuca302 agreed that difficulty is highly relative. sure, those complex champs can be hard to pick up, but they get tools for any situation. i like to compare this to CoD zombies. sure, those huge, complex maps are daunting at first glance, and you will die horribly early on when you start out. however, they are also the easiest maps to reach the higher rounds once you master them. the simpler maps you can easily grasp in your first game? reaching the same high rounds becomes nigh impossible and absolutely requires you to master the fundamentals instead of relying on the fancy tools the complex maps give you. each got their own challenge, and i think the same rules apply with league. at higher ELOs the simpler champs suddenly become so much harder to win with
It quite insane that Leona is not on the top 15 easiest champions to play. her kit is just so simple. Q: Stun that dude. W: Tank mode E: approaching menacingly R: PRAISE THE SUN MOTHERFUCKER!
shes got 2 skill shots and no mobility at all. honestly naut is easier than her. a.a. stun, target ult, wider and longer grab plus mobility if you use walls
She's not a hard champ but she's definitely not the easiest engage tank out there either. E is a relatively short range skillshot that is possible to miss and dodge (and just straight up not be in range for against like a Cait/Lux lane), R is a skillshot that is extremely easy to flash or dodge bc of the animation beforehand. Q and w are very easy for sure. She has no mobility to get our of a fight, once she's in, she is in and will die if it's a bad fight. Unlike many other cc heavy tanks that have some way to get out. Naut can hook to terrain, Rasmus can speed away, etc.
you can tell a lot of people dont really play the champs they vote for they just go of what other people say or do. like i like assassins so i have played a lot of qiyana and zed, and putting zed as harder than qiyana is just not it lol. i think this might be because zed is a very common champion you see picked a lot across high and low elo, but qiyana is only really has presence in high elo. so low elo players arnt really "aware" of her if that makes sense.
i disagree Zed is probably THE hardest assasin (kata maybe harder theoretical cieling but its not required to perform well on her) qiyana is harder in lane since she cant farm with Qs as easily, but she has way more all in power pre 6 and generally can kill without R she also doesnt have any real skillshots (yes Q is one but u often dont need to hit it from far bcs of W and especially E gap close and even if, its not that hard to hit) she can also reposition relatively easily with grass Q and W dash, both of which have a super low CD meanwhile Zed relies on W/R positioning (much higher CD) and Q skillshots he cant really kill without ult and is a weaker champ, which also makes him harder in the meta i would agree with qiyana has a higher skill floor than Zed, but he has a higher cieling
@@axb_zero8457 Qiyana is much harder than Zed and it's not even close. She requires to press 5 buttons to dish out same damage zed does with 2 AND she needs to properly combo them. Yes there are some Zed tricks to master but he has much easier learning curve. She can't farm as easily as Zed - she has mana and can't just safe spam like Zed. Her ult is more difficult to utilize, and she can't really all in and go back to safety like Zed
Riven is the perfect example of League being balanced in the wrong direction. What started off as a programming error has become a staple in the game. Instead of removing the technique and making the champion more consistent, they've opted to isolate the lower 50%, when they could have balanced the character across all skill levels. This also compounds when it comes to smurfing, where people who know how to abuse this mechanic have a higher percentage chance of winning a matchup, based purely on knowledge not known by the average player because it can only be taught by others who know of the exploit. It's the same thing as Apex keeping in tap strafing. They've enabled 1% of the community at the disadvantage of the 99%. Exploits ruin the game and should not be a part of anything considered "competitive".
He is hard you dont only know bis combos you also have to know gun rotation which gun combos are better lane which is better 1v1 who is better at team fights and will you have the guns at the right time?
@@MostafaMahmoud02 that's how we know u are silver kid, all that shit you said it's easily learnt in first couple games of playing aphelios, nothing too hard
@@st1lysh35 late replay but Sorry to break it for you iam emerald in in diamond 1/2 loobies you probably won't hit it in your life time but i respect your opinion
A better way of representing the data at the end would be to rank them by the ratio of votes because now the less popular champs are going to naturally end up in the middle
There is a big difference between what "hardest" means - hardest to play or hardest to master. I personally don't consider Gankplank hard to play (he is sure hard to master and play perfectly) - use your Q (which totally isn't ranged autoattack on 4 second cooldown), combo barrels and miss them, do 300 true dmg autoattack, heal and remove any cc with orange, get Bluetooth assists from rest of the map using ult.
So true. After 10 games of gp i could do some plays and deal good chucks of dmg, and even carry games, but on, for example, kat, after 10 games i only sucked more XD
Nah,his lanephase is weird.If you miss your barrels in lanephase you need to keep distance because barrels have 18s CD each and your enemy will jump on you if they smell weakness,if you spam Q before your ER your mana will drain FAST.
@@wolhaiksong2558 Yes, that is true, but his lategame is so strong,that even when you are behind you still dish out good amounts of dmg, but you are not carry,but sub-carry, with still good disangage and good engage
It's wild how karatina went from one of the easiest champions to one of the hardest (according to the list) of the game after her rework. I still miss old kata.
same, though even old kata had players that screwed up, regularly; it was like master yi - there's good master yi's and then there's master yi's that feed the other team incessantly (turning the game into a 4v6) - old kata was similar in how certain people played her 🤣 I do miss old kata though, she was fun to relax + play on.
2 things about this video: 1. Having easy mechanics does NOT mean that a champion is easy to play. Tryndamere and warwick are just NOT easier to play/win games with than any enchanter support. On the contrary just because champions like Velkoz, Anivia dont hard mechanics doesnt mean that they are not one of THE hardest champs to pull of vs good players. The positioning required on squishy mages with no mobility is gonna require more skill and practice to get right in the long run, than learning what aphelios does every will 2. Challenger players will heavily disagree with many placements on this list especially the top picks. Yasou, GP, Fiora have been the undisputed Top 3 in most Challenger opinions
He is an imobile adc, he heavily relies on his support, he has a hard kit to learn even if you know the combos because sometimes you have to quickly decide which ult you need to use, all while having only one gun that grants him actually good range, while the rest of them give him lower range than Varus , on top he has basicly one gun that is a good wave clear tool. He is definetly that hard to pull off.
@@johannhahn248 nice u describe like 80% of adc champ. People think gun combo is like fictional chemistry but in practice everyone just spam their Q and E to get the good gun rotation out. It not hard to think about: "i don't have good gun, let not fight and farm"
Suprised that kindred wasn't on this list, the invading is pretty complicated for the average league players and how to predict the marks, to be fair they are definitely harder than some on this list. Edit: she was in the top 20 hardest but i think she should be lower.
Now thats just weird jungle mechanics that aren’t necessary but only the higher league ranks do.. this is about their champ difficulty by abilities not the role they play
I feel like Bard potentially could have been on the hardest to play list. Also, I was sort of surprised not to see Gnar on that list as well given that you don't have full control over when he goes mega.
@@ozgur2622 Bard is not easy. I mained Kindred jung for a while and did decent I played Bard and sucked so badly I almost wanted to quit. I learned his kit and now he's my main. When I adc even if someone is playing bard I win every game why? simply because Bard is not easy.
Indeed, Bard is hard. You have to position yourself well to stun enemies with Q, place his W in a good place and explain what it does, use portals reasonably, so no one will die of teleporting straight into the enemy and his ultimate requires 200 IQ to make a plan on the fly about what you want to do with it AND you have to execute it well, otherwise you can make your team lose a fight and it's entirely Bard's fault.
ngl if we're going to put ashe on the "easiest" champions side at all simply because her kit is easy to execute, i think riven should be a lot higher than 5. if youre comparing kits, riven is by far the hardest to execute in full, MAYBE aphelios comes close. if we take into account play style, then ashe should be much much higher, id say even higher than many of the ones in the top 15 most difficult on this list.
10:24 Surely he's gonna mention mastering his tower dives by tanking the first shot, mitigating the second with W and dodging the third with Q and swapping aggro, or tank, Q to kill, then W the last shot, when out of turret range, if you're diving alone , or the fact that his W is an auto reset, maybe even mentioning that you wanna go into fights, having autoed a minion or monster twice already, to have your passive up on the first hiit against the champ. No? Oh..
aphelios main here! ive gotta say that he’s actually one of The most op and fun champs ive EVER played! maybe he seems a little bit hard, but after a few games, you should be able to understand him🌟
I do think there needs to be a bit of clarification on whether they're evaluated on skill floor or skill ceiling. For example, Lee Sin has a fairly low skill floor compared to Yasuo and Riven, and so doesn't deserve to be that high on the list in that case, but his skill ceiling is much higher than Azir or Aphelios. (check out the best Aphel/Azir players, then look at the top Lee players) If the criteria was specified in the poll to be skill floor, I think the poll results would generally be similar, but there would be some differences--Aphelios, Lee Sin, and Zed would probably be much lower on the list since their skill floors aren't as insane as Riven/GP, for example
For better results, you probably should also show Easiest/Hardest votes, so popular champs dont even up on both ends on the list and then go list from highstest easy/hardest through
Akali, Irelia, Katarina, Lee sin don't deserve their spot for sure. They are often seen as hard because you see flashy high mastery of them showing off what actually skilled player can accomplish with them. However they are easy to pick up, you are not punished for not knowing how to play them well like you are with Riven or Azir. I find it absurd riot is so akin to forcing "skilled" champs to not requiring practice to perform on them. Skilled champs should require practice to learn. They should be strong for those who put in the practice. Capable of unique and flashy moments. Yet not accesible to everyone. That's where you will be rewarded and satisfied of your investement in them, that's where you can be recognized as a good x player, that's where the balancing can be made for those who practice them just like Riven.
Akali isn't hard lol. I agree she is hard to really master and be like Professor Akali, but any regular player can pick her up and after a few games start doing decently with her. She has so much margin of error is insane (Wall jump, shroud and R which is pretty much a double flash). Akali mains will tell you she is really hard to justify why they have 1M mastery points and still be hardstuck gold
I think most people find akali hard because they're not managing their energy well. Akali's playstyle is switching around skills and enhanced AAs and some people probably just presses Q and wonders why their energy is empty and cant do anything
@@raynorshineeeshe's hard not just for that reason but also because she's an all in character. You have to know when to engage use shroud and auto at the right time and give the other players time to return the damage. There's no way you could play safe with her if you suck playing her. It's either just don't play her or you'll end up feeding the enemy tram with her.
Jayce could have easily placed anywhere within the top 5 hardest champs, I can see him alongside the Azir/Lee Sin/Gangplank levels of skill ceiling executions. But the fact that he didn't even make it to top 10 or 15 is kind of ridiculous lowballing
Bro I see many Aphelios mains saying it's not that hard and I'm glad some of you are able to say that. But, for MANY other people it's complicated to take the time to learn how this guy works 💀 Maybe you should consider that a lot average and casual players might find his kit overwhelming to learn (me included), people might have different skills and capabilities and definitely Aphelios kit is overloaded
I might be biased but I'd say Yi is far from being the third easiest champion by now. Sure, on a basis you can just walk up, press E and R for more damage and hold down rightclick to do damage with the occasional Q thrown in but that kind of gameplay will only hold up against players ranked somewhere in Iron 52. Realistically you need to be wary of CC into burst combos and need to know what champion you need to focus at what point of a fight and when to maybe disengage for a bit while deciding if you can use your W as an auto reset to get some additional burst damage or if you need to hold it to be able to survive a burst.
I'm mastery 7 Kalista and I've never really felt she is hard to play. She is different for sure but she teaches players to click between every auto and she has so much outplay potential. She basically has built in smite but with damage that scales to champs. As long as you aren't playing against an ashe, I feel like she is relatively easy. Even makes CSing easier
She's hard if youre not used to kiting. For me it was the ult that was hard at first. Back then i hadnt played other champs than adcs so i had a hard time figuring out when to ult. Beyond that shes constantly nerfed pretty hard and has a smaller range so you need good positioning and ig managing her e but if youve played xayah and twitch its easy enough
As a shaco enjoyer I think #133 is totally not the case. I mean he has a simple kit but I feel like he is a coinflip if you can't punish and you will end up useless sooner or later, something like Nidalee.
Honestly, Kalista is the hardest champ ever. Aphelios, you just need to know the basic gun cycles, then you can just play him like any other regular ADC. Other champs on the list (Azir Lee etc) has high skill ceiling but can be easy to understand. Kalista has both high skill ceiling, high skill floor, and heavily needs good team coordination
I personally dont think Aphelios is too hard. His primary difficulty is understanding what he does but once you do his gameplay really does devolve into "right click"
1) Aphelios is not that hard if you've been playing ADC for a bit. After about 50 games with Aphelios you pretty much know how to cycle your guns and know how to combo the guns (Kindred and Camille are harder than Aphelios) 2) It is INSANE to me that Elise isn't in the top 5 most difficult champs to play--everyone should play her in the jungle once or twice to see what I mean 3) Anyone who think Master Yi is super easy to play is probably bronze or silver--you have to know when to use his W to mitigate damage, how to use it as an auto attack reset, how to use Q when diving someone under tower, how to use Q to dodge important abilities, how to play in team fights, etc.
I main ADC, and Aphelios wasn't too hard to pick up. Of course playing any champion at a high level is difficult but I feel Aphelios was an easier champion to learn especially because of how straightforward and how 'no bs' his tooltips explaining the abilities were. Aphelios was a champion that looked complicated at first glance, and especially will give you a headache when trying to digest his kit for the first time mid-game. I believe the hardest champions are the ones that rely on each part of their kit's combo hitting in order to deal a suitable amount of damage in response to how much hp and mana (or energy) spent.
Old aurelion sol could also qualify! Ball dragon still exists in wild rift and his role is incredibly unique. I find tgat he actually has some of the best laning in tge game since he's excellent at keeping people away (those stars HURT)
Old Asol was definetely one of the hardest champs both mechanically and macro-wise. But new Asol is just pure noob champ that requires nothing more than 2 hands and 50 IQ
I am surprised soraka isn't in the easiest champion list. You can learn how to play her in a matter of minutes and no matter how bad you play, you will still be useful.
Ezreal is by far the hardest champ in league, the only champ in league that can miss all his damage constantly compare to the role its played, 90% of adc are just kite and basics, maybe Zeri can be count in missing damage, but the cooldowns are way differents, I know there are more champs that can miss damage constantly, like Xerath, Vel Koz, etc, but they are just different to Ezreal
Aphelios is really easy. His passive is a paragraph, and his q is 5 different abilities, but you have to remember that his passive pretty much is his whole kit. He is the hardest to first time because to play him you need to understand gun rotation and gun combos, but a few games makes it pretty easy. He's mechanically very simple. He has no fancy combos (for the most part). It looks really complex due to the gun combos, and to someone who doesn't play him, it may seem impossible to understand, but it's not that hard. It would be interesting to see a new poll done where you ask the mains of that champion how hard they think he is, and compare that to what the rest of the community views that champion's difficulty as.
Azir has to be the most overstated difficult champion ever. The champion plays itself and just pokes down teams from max range passively. The shurima shuffle is an insanely easy combo, a basic insec requires more execution
Fiora? Nahhh, her kit is simple af, execution wise you really dont have to do much, just time the W correctly like Garen, proc weakness with Q or just wait till its in the right spot if you are laning, the R is pretty simple too, you dont even have to proc all 4 most of the time, just 2-3 would be enough damage. With correct builds you should be quite sturdy too, PLENTY of rooms for mistakes.
@@vunguyenlong5738 Yeah. So easy to "just" time W correctly when half champs have either instacast on their CC or nuke ( you also need to know which one is worth parrying ) and its by miles more important to do so, in comparison to garen, who can almost ignore that spell. Hitting vitals isnt all that easy either with minions around and opponent kiting you, while you also have to keep in mind that W and you gotta dodge sht with you Q too, without comprimising its stab into vital.¨ Dude. You make it sound like you start the game at 4 items, with one item lead on top and your lane opponent is always slow, low ranged control mage with telegraphed CC that you can run just whenever. Thats not your average experience. Your average experience is someone like trundle, who even if you put half item behind, will still statcheck you once he finishes DS even if you parry his Q and slow his AS and you hit everything.
Aphelios isn't really that difficult, the only difficult thing for him is wasting bullets to get the weapon you want or needed, but his combos are pretty straightforward... Flamethrower with Chakram for AOE damaging and melting enemies, Rifle or Pistol with Cannon for Easy poke, Pistol and Flamethrower for clearing minion waves, and Pistol with Chakram for duels
As an Aphelios main: he's hard to learn, but easy to master. You can get his guns down in less than 20 games and once the novelty wears off and you work out your optimal weapon rotation (red > white > green > purple/blue > blue/purple down to preference) you've already reached 80% of the champ's potential really.
@@Nidalee_Enjoyer I had to look that guy up because I saw him everywhere in the comments saying hard champs are easy. Looks like he is silver 3 peak with negative winrate. I can see why he thinks some champs are easy...
Garen is crazy more difficult than what people imagine. Avoiding trades in turn of keeping the passive up Q'ing only after a slow has struck you to cancel it Timing CC with your W Sticking to specific targets with your E during teamfights for maximum damage If the ult doesn't execute, that person's just gone...
Yeah and can't this be said about other easy champs? With naut if you hook the wrong champ, your whole team dies, with yi if you mistime your Q you can get hit by cc, if you mistime your W you don't get the 90% damage reduction, with annie if you fuck up your passive you lose all trades..... What you're talking about is basic game knowledge and the difference between easy and hard champs is that the easy ones can be used without perfectly utilising every ability while if you give a champ like nidalee or azir into the hands of a beginner they won't be able to do anything with them. Speaking from experience. And don't try to make Garen look like a skilled champion because he isn't lol. At least try it with a champ that's somewhat skillful like pantheon or galio, or idk... 🤣🤣
As a GP main place 4 is definetly deserved. I spent so many hours just to get every common barrel combo consistently. BTW: If you are starting out on gp try learning the 3 barrel combo first, best way to get early cheese damage in lane. Another question, how many of you would enjoy a very comprehensive (30min+) GP tutorial for this or the next season? Like discussing most matchups and the item build and every combo
Comparing champions like this makes no sense. Someone like lee sin, riven, zed takes mechanical skills, and someone like bard or twisted fate takes game knowledge and someone like kalista and draven takes positioning.
I recently picked up aphelios a couple days ago and tbh the only hard part is probably his weapon combos and rotations and optimally using his skills with low amo for crazy boom boom pow combos
Not really, I have played him a lot on PBE and he's a lot more intuitive than he looks like. He has 9 basic abilities, but most of them are very situational (QW, WQ, WW, EW), so it's about spamming WE, using EE or EQ for cc and QQ or QE to deal the damage
5 people saying Aphelios being the easiest are trolls, for some reason innately vibe with the champion and their abilities from the outset or most likely: Have 2 PhDs in physics and play LOL in their spare time
11:41 Garen has hidden depths, his abilities don't just do what you say, his Q is a 1.5 second silence, and his W combines a shield with damage reduction plus a brief bit of boosted tenacity. Also his E is a skillshot, meaning it has counter play.
Definitely think aphelion should be much lower than the likes of riven azir lee sin etc. Once you know the rotation of gun pairs and learn which fights to take or when to have which gun pair available he feels pretty straight forward imo. Nowhere near the pain in the ass of learning riven combos etc
One champion that was Really hard to master was old Aurelion Sol, that thing was a roaming monster and a spacing machine that in the right hands can take over a whole game Now well, he just got turned into a generic late game mage ):
I love how easiest champs went from 0 skill mundo goes where he pleases and mf lane sized ult and damage plus movespeeds and then lux a champ where every ability is a skillshot, tells me that people who voted are hard stuck silvers
We can't say a mage is easy, tank is easy, you just have to take damage and make space for your team. And ADC and jungler are hard, because in team fight you are good don't mean you are in laning phase, and that where those roles are hard, know how to gank is not that easy (except for the life steal jungler, they are exception).
Riven is the hardest by far not even the 200 years champ is close, im not even going to explain why, just search guides on youtube and if u still think that is not the hardest probably you are below plat and dont know shit about micro and macro, just play her in +gold and try to even win the lane
Yeah, I agree w Akali being placed way too highly. The champ looks way too flashy for what it really is. She has the 3rd highest base HP regen in the game and you start d shield almost every match up, so with second wind, d shield, and just base hp regen, she is super forgiving and 90% of the time youll just out sustain your laner unless its like vlad or gragas. On top of that, her hardest counters are all super low pick rate champs like kassadin, taliyah, jayce, and vlad, so you rarely ever get put into a horrible match up. Her q takes a while to get used to the short range and knowing when youre close enough to poke, but other than that, super simple ability. Her W is literally just free invis in an area for a short amount of time, extremely broken. Her E is a free engage/disengage, depending on how you use it. Her R isn't hard to use either, point and click dash that deals damage and R2 is a free cast dash that also deals damage, which acts like another free engage/disengage.
tl;dr people know nothing about league macro, so they think skill difficult is making combo. . thats happend when bronze and sliver players (biggest population) judge hard champions by making combo. calling yasuo, katarina, zed, irelia or aphelios hard its like saying, that teemo or nasus are easy. everyone with any basic knowlege will know, that league is something more than doing one combo. there are questions how difficult is survive/dominate early, is comeback after being behind is possible, do you have any push potential, how its easy to counter your champion etc. yasuo, kata, zed etc. have easy early game, by "easy" i mean - can easy survive every lane by no losing farm, have good push and poke potential, extremaly good spikes and game is over after being 1/0, cuz have amazing scaling, good stomp potential, and being raid boss after any adventage. meanwhile nasus, who is "SO EASY", cant survive early game, if enemy jungler will come, you are done, if your jungler wont come, you are done. if enemy will have adventage, you are done, if you have adventage (somehow) you not even winning. well, but atleast he have good late game, right? - NO. he cant win against any good bruiser, and most "hard" (XD) champs hard outscale him, like yasuo, yone or irelia, who easy can stomp him on side, even in late game, while they had free lane. all what i mean is - most people are stupid and dont understand basic of the game, all they know is some champs have combo and some dont have, so this one are easy, and second one are hard.
the hardest champ should def be ezreal not aphelios, aphelios is just scary to understand because it's weird but once u understood the abilities he have it's not hard to play him
The difficulty in aphelios is that he has zero hp and requires perfect positioning Also having good guns for fights takes planning and coordination Neither are mechanically difficult but contribute to overall difficulty in a different way
i main aphelios, i started playing league about two years ago and i immediately started playing him despite my friends telling me not to cuz he's too hard. but i honestly feel like people are making him seem harder than he is. i got the hang of his weapon passives in only like 4 or 5 games, what's more important is how u combine them :3
I played league for about 3 years and the hardest 3 in my opinion are probably Azir, Riven, and it’s between maybe like Quiana, Gangplank and Lee sin Idk which one I’d choose
You know what’s funny: some people who think certain champions are easy, like yasuo, are usually below gold. They have never witnessed someone like dzukill play it. And this applies to many champions
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if you're gonna start off every video with a literal minute long ad at least make an attempt to do literally anything interesting
Yasuo should be one of the easiest champions. Simple kit, easy to farm with, not too complicated combos, a w that legit blocks like 70% of most mage's damage, high mobility and amazing in teamfights cuz his r shreds armor. I mean he can be punishing but his kit is very much one of the easiest to understand.
aphelios is one of the easiest champions to play. He has great sustain with severum (the pistol), push potential with infernum (flame thrower), good harass and safe farm tool calibrum (the rifle that grants him like 600 attack range), can cc with his gravitum (gravity gun), has insane dueling potential with chakram cuz if they get too close you just run them over cuz of the scaling attack speed and his sentry which is also amazing. He does not need to click any buttons aside from w, aa, and r. That's two less buttons to click, although you need to manage your ammo and learn what weapons to use for what it's really not that hard to pick up.
Where's kled or gnar?
Honestly Malz's R is funny as hell.
"Hey watch me do this smart play"
"Nah"
*presses R*
as an Akali main I can say it's the ability I hate the most in the entire game
it's not.
comedy gold is seeing yone stand still for 2 seconds
@@dundrasil reminds me of that ARAM game i had once. i played malzahar and the enemy akali stubbornly refused to respect my ult. punishing overextending assassins who think they can dash anywhere they want is oddly satisfying
after getting hit by it once i always buy a QSS.... and then he never ults me again and i just wasted money
As a long suffering Azir main I must say you kinda missed the ball on why he's difficult. It's not his combos that make him difficult, they can all be learned with enough practice and eventually the ol' Shurima Shuffle will come naturally. It's the fact that you have to micro up to 4 different soldiers and yourself, whilst simultaneously dealing with both the hardest parts of being a marksman (kiting and positioning) and the hardest parts of being a mage (ability usage and cooldown management).
yeah but thats with almost all champs , i otp qiyana , played azir once did a perfect shuriman shuffle , its not hard at all wat makes azir hard for me is to divide my attention between sand soldiers and myself and ofc his abysmally shit numbers
@@gamingyoshi2280 my guy that's exactly what I'm saying
tbh azir is so easy to me, he shouldnt even be in the top 15 hardests. and aphelios shouldnt be there aswell there are other comments to explain why. im surprised elise isnt in there
whats ur rank buddy@@krow3416
@@krow3416that’s cuz as of rn he is kinda busted especially in low elo. He’s going to get nerfed 100% along with volibear
Aphelios by mechanics isn't that difficult, he just looks really complicated and intimidating but when you get the weapon order and basic combinations down he becomes extremely fun to play.
Same with hwei its just more abilities than league players are used to but compared to like idk other forms of game where your character has 10's of abilities this isnt much
@@danielorlovaquinn you can say it, league players = small brains...
(Which is true cause we would play dota if we had some intelligence)
He is still so extremely weak and over nerfed in solo queue right now that you must have down and utilize his kit very effectively to keep up with the AVERAGE ADC champs in the majority of matchups.
You are most often playing at a disadvantage and must be competent and confident enough in the role to use Aphe's utility and your superior micro(/macro) to come up with the outplays to be useful.
I agree that getting down his gun order and kit isn't as difficult as it looks intimidating to newcomers. If they're committed to practicing it enough, anyone should have it down eventually-it just takes time.
So I think the video and other comments-unlike yours- are wrong to focus on the gun order as the difficult part. It's how to utilize him competently in spite of his current weak position that becomes the demanding part. Sorry for getting so tangential under your comment.
@@ra-tz9hg that's true but he is still extremely fun
@@callmeshifu4114 I can definitely agree
I'd argue that Kalista is harder than Aphelios. Sure he's hard because you need to time what guns you have for objectives and team fights, but after a bit you get used to it and can play him somewhat intuitively since he's just another adc at the end of the day regardless of how many tools he has. Kalista on the other hand has specific movement selections that no other champion has. Her passive alone is strong, but if you devote yourself and the hours and games to learning her tech, her passive truly unlocks and she becomes the actual hardest champion in the game. She has specific options you need to toggle on to get the most out of her because just attack move clicking will hold you back from her full power and limit your movement.
Her skill floor FEELS pretty low, you pick her up, spend a few games getting used to her movement and have some success and think "oh this champion is easy" but then you look into mastering her and dig through videos to find actual guides for her and you realize she's actually completely insane. The learning curve of going from new to mediocre is already insane and putting what you've practiced in the tool into real games and getting consistent with it is extremely difficult but so damn rewarding.
Here's a video of her movement and other technical skills by a player SIGNIFICANTLY better than me and really hammers home just how insane the champion can be if played at a competent level th-cam.com/video/m6nXpsw02ts/w-d-xo.htmlsi=bhUl0mKRP8KPypW3
I think it's crazy that some people still think the Shuriman Shuffle is a hard tech when it's literally just timing a single button to get the most distance out of, but this Shadow Isles Slide requires precise timing for EVERY auto attack, changes timing when you buy attack speed items and level up, any changes in ping can throw off the timing, needs auto attack toggled on to perform consistently which means if you mistime it you start just WALKING and do no damage at all and lose your mobility until you input another attack command and get back into the rhythm of the slide AND this is all on a champion who has 2 buttons when alone and sometimes still 2 buttons when not alone. She is easily in the top 3 of hardest champions to master in the game just in terms of mechanics alone. The sheer difference of gameplay from when I had 20 games on Kalista and didn't know any of this tech to where I'm at after practicing it and getting mediocre, not even good, just mediocre, is like the difference between night and day.
as an aphelios main, i really wouldn't call him the hardest champion. most of the difficulty comes from just knowledge of what he does, it just comes with learning. tbh kalista is much harder as an adc
as an aphelios main, i agree
As a riven and aphelios main...
Riven not being top 1-2
And aphelios not being top 20 is fuckin wild 💀
@@alessgr9394I mean im surprised Renata wasnt anywhere up, even tho she's probably the most skill based SUPPORT due to how specific and situational at the same time she is.
@@rojczan1399 Didnt think about it but agreed, she should be there
@@rojczan1399 i think thresh is way more skill based, the grab isnt easy neither extermely hard to hit but it depends on you reading your opponent well....
I remember when I started playing league like late 2021 - early 2022, my friends saw that I liked playing or trying difficult champions, specifically ADCs. So literally, before I even knew how to CS properly, they told me to try out Aphelios. I'm so happy to say that he was my first every M7 champion and I love playing him.
I'm glad that league is always growing, I started to play in 2011.
I learned how to play league on yone as my first ever character in late 2023, I couldn’t even cs properly when I decided yone top was what I wanted to try, he’s now mastery 10❤
you should do this video again but only ask challenger players to see the difference between them and us low elo players
or just master +
Master players won't pick Yi
@@pasarebird02the rank 1 player in europe last split was a master yi main
no he reached rank 1 but wasnt overal rank 1@@lolxdlolmfaololxdd8879
@@lolxdlolmfaololxdd8879 Rank 1 OTP doesn't matter if the champion is hard to play or not.
On a side note, I was very surprised to see Yi ranked as an easy champion. Sure, it's easy to pick up but being so incredibly hard countered by CC requires a huge understanding of the game to pull Yi off to a high level.
I love that fact that a lot of the hard to play champs according to this list like Pyke, Kindred or Aphelios aren't mechanically hard but it's acknowledged that it is hard to master the macro that is required for those champs
kindred is the only champ of these with hard macro, pyke is a feast or famine champ but also hypermobile so macro is less important then, and aphe requires exactly the same macro as every other adc,
I still believe that people that call Aphelios the hardest champion didn't even try him out. Aphelios is easy - the hardest part is spacing which is just... an adc thing, not Phel exclusive. He is surprisingly easy to understand and learn.
yep
Phel isn't that mechanical of a champion, which is reflected by his surprisingly low skill floor, but playing him well requires you to actively think about weapon and ammo management as well as using every weapon to the maximum (like hitting every green mark or knowing how to use white turret and stacks), which translates to a high skill ceiling.
yep, mechanically he's not different from other adcs, i'd say draven is harder mechanical wise, the hard thing with phel is how much micromanagement u need to do in order to play him well, like do i get rid of this weapon? or should i save it? do i have enough ammo to actually do a full damage chakram or no? and thinking down to his passive like, do i max out the attack speed or ad first? all while playing an adc one of the hardest role in the game
True. Good adc with time to read=good aphelios.
@@callmeshifu4114 if we are talking about adc skill ceilings, Ezreal's is much higher than Aphelios. I do believe he is only on this list because of the 200 years meme.
This list is a bit contreversial because there is a big difference between skill floor and skill ceiling. For example: Xayah might be difficult to understand at first, but when you get down her basics she isnt that difficult to master. Viego on the other hand is quite easy to understand but theoratically is the hardest to master since you need to master all of your enemies' champs. I'd think making a hardest to pick up and a hardest to master list apart from each other would be better.
You can't say that viego technially the hardest champ because you just spam skills and use R again you don't have to be good at the champions you turned you just have to be decent with them and being decent on a champ is easy if you know its skills. If u turn into azir with viego u don't space and aa with every soldier you just spam 3-4 abilities and use R again
@@k0rizo hes talking about SKILL CEILING so ye u can spam moves and be decent but its about how hard it is to MASTER the champion which means u would have to use theese moves almost perfectly
@@k0rizo Ah yes, good job on completely both missing the point but also PROVING his point
He literally said "Viego on the other hand is _quite easy to understand_ but _theoretically the hardest to _*_master"_* you just literally proved his point with your statement, yeah you can do well with just spamming abilities, but MASTERING it requires a lot more
Honestly as a person who actually plays Aphelios he's not hard mechanically but is hard in terms of macro and understanding as being able to shuffle your guns properly and having the right guns for the exact situations can be difficult sometimes but overall mechanically he's not that hard he's in Varus level of difficulty in mechanics to pull off his combos but around Azir level of macro difficulty to properly pull off
Yeah theres a Difference in a mechanically super difficult Champion and a champ thats difficult to understand. There are many Champs you nee d10+ games on the notvsuck , and many you only need one game to learn it but need General good mechanics (for example vayne)
If you’re someone who mains the champion the fact that you took a paragraph to try and explain why he isn’t hard lol. ADC is harder to play than most roles because of how punishing a single mistake is. Adding constant complexity and adaptability makes it harder. What’s your goal lmao
@@gvccihvccipretty much. Adc is tough aphel is adc on masochist mode.
Thanks for the easiest and hardest champions chosen by silvers!
yeah no shit it's gonna be chosen by silvers, that's where most people are
@@akaranzo And that is exactly why it shouldn't be chosen by them. They're the majority. It should be chosen by the highest ranks of people.
@@floddy133 yeah like at least master
like were tf is ezrael
For real, Akali is not easier than Riven lmao
Yasuo is like BMW in eastern europe: A good car (champ) but most expected to cause an accident (int)
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Underrated comment!
perfect comparison lol
pls next time ask them to submit their rank aswel cuz i'm starting to get tilted by all this
Riven being not top 1 is INSANE
In some places the list feels accurate but in some places not and i think thats based on the voters ranks. As mentioned some champs skill floors and caps won't show until certain ranks. Ive never been higher than silver and some plays would absolutely not fly in a plat game, making some champs switch to the other side of the list. Typically high ranked players also have more knowledge about the game itself making "easy" champs for them possibly very difficult for lower ranks.
Simply Akali and Lee Sin feels so odd to be in hardest champs,when i would place them closely to easy. Reason is, they have low entry lvl, but high skill cealing. So yeah,i agree with ya
@@psychokuca302 truth. I haven't played either in a long time (I also hate melee / in your face champs) but when I have tried it wasn't too bad. There's definitely a learning curve to timing, but they also seem to fair well against really any opponent. So many akalis just run down lane and it's game over lmao
Yeap. and to add to that, for 1.5years now i had 2 mastery 8 toklens on akali,but never tried to even get last one. picked her on top and just casually ended gime like 10/2/something. Was one of the easiet games i played
@@defectiveaffect
A good exampld of that is fckn jHIN Xd
@@psychokuca302 agreed that difficulty is highly relative. sure, those complex champs can be hard to pick up, but they get tools for any situation. i like to compare this to CoD zombies. sure, those huge, complex maps are daunting at first glance, and you will die horribly early on when you start out. however, they are also the easiest maps to reach the higher rounds once you master them. the simpler maps you can easily grasp in your first game? reaching the same high rounds becomes nigh impossible and absolutely requires you to master the fundamentals instead of relying on the fancy tools the complex maps give you. each got their own challenge, and i think the same rules apply with league. at higher ELOs the simpler champs suddenly become so much harder to win with
It quite insane that Leona is not on the top 15 easiest champions to play. her kit is just so simple.
Q: Stun that dude.
W: Tank mode
E: approaching menacingly
R: PRAISE THE SUN MOTHERFUCKER!
shes got 2 skill shots and no mobility at all. honestly naut is easier than her. a.a. stun, target ult, wider and longer grab plus mobility if you use walls
She's not a hard champ but she's definitely not the easiest engage tank out there either. E is a relatively short range skillshot that is possible to miss and dodge (and just straight up not be in range for against like a Cait/Lux lane), R is a skillshot that is extremely easy to flash or dodge bc of the animation beforehand. Q and w are very easy for sure. She has no mobility to get our of a fight, once she's in, she is in and will die if it's a bad fight. Unlike many other cc heavy tanks that have some way to get out. Naut can hook to terrain, Rasmus can speed away, etc.
Because it's easy to mess up with her. Miss one or two stuns, and your adc is in trouble
Nautilus seems so much hard than Leona, is genuine surprise that Sona was there and Nautilus don't
Darius as well top 3 easiest or nasus
you can tell a lot of people dont really play the champs they vote for they just go of what other people say or do. like i like assassins so i have played a lot of qiyana and zed, and putting zed as harder than qiyana is just not it lol. i think this might be because zed is a very common champion you see picked a lot across high and low elo, but qiyana is only really has presence in high elo. so low elo players arnt really "aware" of her if that makes sense.
yeh i wass very suprised to see zed being put that high, he is so much easier than qiyana and even kata tbh
Why tf was zoe there at the 15th spot? No bard, no velkoz
i disagree
Zed is probably THE hardest assasin (kata maybe harder theoretical cieling but its not required to perform well on her)
qiyana is harder in lane since she cant farm with Qs as easily, but she has way more all in power pre 6 and generally can kill without R
she also doesnt have any real skillshots (yes Q is one but u often dont need to hit it from far bcs of W and especially E gap close and even if, its not that hard to hit)
she can also reposition relatively easily with grass Q and W dash, both of which have a super low CD
meanwhile Zed relies on W/R positioning (much higher CD) and Q skillshots
he cant really kill without ult and is a weaker champ, which also makes him harder in the meta
i would agree with qiyana has a higher skill floor than Zed, but he has a higher cieling
@@axb_zero8457 Qiyana is much harder than Zed and it's not even close. She requires to press 5 buttons to dish out same damage zed does with 2 AND she needs to properly combo them. Yes there are some Zed tricks to master but he has much easier learning curve. She can't farm as easily as Zed - she has mana and can't just safe spam like Zed. Her ult is more difficult to utilize, and she can't really all in and go back to safety like Zed
Riven is the perfect example of League being balanced in the wrong direction. What started off as a programming error has become a staple in the game. Instead of removing the technique and making the champion more consistent, they've opted to isolate the lower 50%, when they could have balanced the character across all skill levels. This also compounds when it comes to smurfing, where people who know how to abuse this mechanic have a higher percentage chance of winning a matchup, based purely on knowledge not known by the average player because it can only be taught by others who know of the exploit.
It's the same thing as Apex keeping in tap strafing. They've enabled 1% of the community at the disadvantage of the 99%. Exploits ruin the game and should not be a part of anything considered "competitive".
Aphelios really isn't too difficult in my opinion. I think his different looking kit is what throws people off.
people who voted are below silver
He is hard you dont only know bis combos you also have to know gun rotation which gun combos are better lane which is better 1v1 who is better at team fights and will you have the guns at the right time?
not that hard if u put fair amount of time into it
@@MostafaMahmoud02 that's how we know u are silver kid, all that shit you said it's easily learnt in first couple games of playing aphelios, nothing too hard
@@st1lysh35 late replay but
Sorry to break it for you iam emerald in in diamond 1/2 loobies you probably won't hit it in your life time but i respect your opinion
A better way of representing the data at the end would be to rank them by the ratio of votes because now the less popular champs are going to naturally end up in the middle
There is a big difference between what "hardest" means - hardest to play or hardest to master.
I personally don't consider Gankplank hard to play (he is sure hard to master and play perfectly) - use your Q (which totally isn't ranged autoattack on 4 second cooldown), combo barrels and miss them, do 300 true dmg autoattack, heal and remove any cc with orange, get Bluetooth assists from rest of the map using ult.
So true. After 10 games of gp i could do some plays and deal good chucks of dmg, and even carry games, but on, for example, kat, after 10 games i only sucked more XD
Nah,his lanephase is weird.If you miss your barrels in lanephase you need to keep distance because barrels have 18s CD each and your enemy will jump on you if they smell weakness,if you spam Q before your ER your mana will drain FAST.
@@wolhaiksong2558 Yes, that is true, but his lategame is so strong,that even when you are behind you still dish out good amounts of dmg, but you are not carry,but sub-carry, with still good disangage and good engage
@@psychokuca302this only means ur bad with kat, she is wayyyy easier than gp
I couldn't agree more, finally seeing somebody else who has my exact point
This list feels like it was made from Bronze players
Ur not tough
This list feels like it was made by people who don’t even play the game who based their opinion on the vocal minority amongst bronze players
So you are telling me garen is hard?
Ok nevermind o just watched the "hard" list part I agree I don't disagree anymore
sooo true, like zed, azir or akali being "hard"
It's wild how karatina went from one of the easiest champions to one of the hardest (according to the list) of the game after her rework.
I still miss old kata.
i didnt even know she had a rework wtf
Yeah OG knows
same, though even old kata had players that screwed up, regularly; it was like master yi - there's good master yi's and then there's master yi's that feed the other team incessantly (turning the game into a 4v6) - old kata was similar in how certain people played her 🤣 I do miss old kata though, she was fun to relax + play on.
@@vesperame33same lol
before rework she was master 2.0 and now she is still easy but feels fair to play against
2 things about this video:
1. Having easy mechanics does NOT mean that a champion is easy to play. Tryndamere and warwick are just NOT easier to play/win games with than any enchanter support.
On the contrary just because champions like Velkoz, Anivia dont hard mechanics doesnt mean that they are not one of THE hardest champs to pull of vs good players. The positioning required on squishy mages with no mobility is gonna require more skill and practice to get right in the long run, than learning what aphelios does every will
2. Challenger players will heavily disagree with many placements on this list especially the top picks. Yasou, GP, Fiora have been the undisputed Top 3 in most Challenger opinions
Aphelios is not that hard to pull off, he has a lot of abilities to understand but putting it to practice is not that challenging
He is an imobile adc, he heavily relies on his support, he has a hard kit to learn even if you know the combos because sometimes you have to quickly decide which ult you need to use, all while having only one gun that grants him actually good range, while the rest of them give him lower range than Varus , on top he has basicly one gun that is a good wave clear tool. He is definetly that hard to pull off.
@@johannhahn248 Ofc but not top 1 hard
couldnt agree more.
@@johannhahn248 nice u describe like 80% of adc champ. People think gun combo is like fictional chemistry but in practice everyone just spam their Q and E to get the good gun rotation out. It not hard to think about: "i don't have good gun, let not fight and farm"
As an Aphelios main i agree, the whole list was picked by Silver players...
this feels like silver elo list
Suprised that kindred wasn't on this list, the invading is pretty complicated for the average league players and how to predict the marks, to be fair they are definitely harder than some on this list.
Edit: she was in the top 20 hardest but i think she should be lower.
Fr juggling getting marks from invades, objectives and ganking is so hard
@@wailmerpail no it's not
Singed should be easily in top 5 of the hardest champs
Now thats just weird jungle mechanics that aren’t necessary but only the higher league ranks do.. this is about their champ difficulty by abilities not the role they play
definitely kindred should be way above something like lee , zed , riven
Guys everyone's forgetting jayce???
He is easy but not thaaat easy
Kinda surprised how few Supports appeared on both lists.
I feel like Bard potentially could have been on the hardest to play list. Also, I was sort of surprised not to see Gnar on that list as well given that you don't have full control over when he goes mega.
@@CiviGG Bard is one of the easiest supports wdym
bard hard?@@CiviGG
@@ozgur2622 Bard is not easy. I mained Kindred jung for a while and did decent I played Bard and sucked so badly I almost wanted to quit. I learned his kit and now he's my main. When I adc even if someone is playing bard I win every game why? simply because Bard is not easy.
Indeed, Bard is hard. You have to position yourself well to stun enemies with Q, place his W in a good place and explain what it does, use portals reasonably, so no one will die of teleporting straight into the enemy and his ultimate requires 200 IQ to make a plan on the fly about what you want to do with it AND you have to execute it well, otherwise you can make your team lose a fight and it's entirely Bard's fault.
ngl if we're going to put ashe on the "easiest" champions side at all simply because her kit is easy to execute, i think riven should be a lot higher than 5. if youre comparing kits, riven is by far the hardest to execute in full, MAYBE aphelios comes close. if we take into account play style, then ashe should be much much higher, id say even higher than many of the ones in the top 15 most difficult on this list.
Id love to see a video like this on the funniest champions. Voice lines, play style, everything
A video ranking champion voices would be awesome
1 rammus
2 kled
3 aatrox
Kled
10:24 Surely he's gonna mention mastering his tower dives by tanking the first shot, mitigating the second with W and dodging the third with Q and swapping aggro, or tank, Q to kill, then W the last shot, when out of turret range, if you're diving alone , or the fact that his W is an auto reset, maybe even mentioning that you wanna go into fights, having autoed a minion or monster twice already, to have your passive up on the first hiit against the champ. No? Oh..
aphelios main here! ive gotta say that he’s actually one of The most op and fun champs ive EVER played! maybe he seems a little bit hard, but after a few games, you should be able to understand him🌟
I do think there needs to be a bit of clarification on whether they're evaluated on skill floor or skill ceiling. For example, Lee Sin has a fairly low skill floor compared to Yasuo and Riven, and so doesn't deserve to be that high on the list in that case, but his skill ceiling is much higher than Azir or Aphelios. (check out the best Aphel/Azir players, then look at the top Lee players)
If the criteria was specified in the poll to be skill floor, I think the poll results would generally be similar, but there would be some differences--Aphelios, Lee Sin, and Zed would probably be much lower on the list since their skill floors aren't as insane as Riven/GP, for example
lee sin has a high skill floor and high skill ceiling. Its not true to say that somene starting out with lee sin will get the hang of him so easily.
For better results, you probably should also show Easiest/Hardest votes, so popular champs dont even up on both ends on the list and then go list from highstest easy/hardest through
so true. Its painful watching this as a mathematician lol
Akali, Irelia, Katarina, Lee sin don't deserve their spot for sure. They are often seen as hard because you see flashy high mastery of them showing off what actually skilled player can accomplish with them.
However they are easy to pick up, you are not punished for not knowing how to play them well like you are with Riven or Azir.
I find it absurd riot is so akin to forcing "skilled" champs to not requiring practice to perform on them. Skilled champs should require practice to learn.
They should be strong for those who put in the practice. Capable of unique and flashy moments. Yet not accesible to everyone.
That's where you will be rewarded and satisfied of your investement in them, that's where you can be recognized as a good x player, that's where the balancing can be made for those who practice them just like Riven.
factual
i can t believe lee sin outranked riven in difficulty mastery
Katarina OTP here. If you don't know how to play her, you will be trash.
Some are also just more work like all the autos in between riven q's and stuff. Like it's all manual combo
Akali isn't hard lol. I agree she is hard to really master and be like Professor Akali, but any regular player can pick her up and after a few games start doing decently with her. She has so much margin of error is insane (Wall jump, shroud and R which is pretty much a double flash). Akali mains will tell you she is really hard to justify why they have 1M mastery points and still be hardstuck gold
I think most people find akali hard because they're not managing their energy well. Akali's playstyle is switching around skills and enhanced AAs and some people probably just presses Q and wonders why their energy is empty and cant do anything
@@raynorshineeeshe's hard not just for that reason but also because she's an all in character. You have to know when to engage use shroud and auto at the right time and give the other players time to return the damage. There's no way you could play safe with her if you suck playing her. It's either just don't play her or you'll end up feeding the enemy tram with her.
Ye some of those struggle during teamfights
managin energy? akali lost that mechanic when they made her w a energy bank@@raynorshineee
Complaining about akali on the list when zed is number 8, ahead of Qiyana, and Nidalee
Jayce could have easily placed anywhere within the top 5 hardest champs, I can see him alongside the Azir/Lee Sin/Gangplank levels of skill ceiling executions. But the fact that he didn't even make it to top 10 or 15 is kind of ridiculous lowballing
Lee and azir are 2 hardest champs is what i've always said
Bro I see many Aphelios mains saying it's not that hard and I'm glad some of you are able to say that. But, for MANY other people it's complicated to take the time to learn how this guy works 💀
Maybe you should consider that a lot average and casual players might find his kit overwhelming to learn (me included), people might have different skills and capabilities and definitely Aphelios kit is overloaded
There is NO WAY 83 people thought BRIAR is hard
i was honestly expecting her in the top 3 easiest
Just press w
I might be biased but I'd say Yi is far from being the third easiest champion by now. Sure, on a basis you can just walk up, press E and R for more damage and hold down rightclick to do damage with the occasional Q thrown in but that kind of gameplay will only hold up against players ranked somewhere in Iron 52. Realistically you need to be wary of CC into burst combos and need to know what champion you need to focus at what point of a fight and when to maybe disengage for a bit while deciding if you can use your W as an auto reset to get some additional burst damage or if you need to hold it to be able to survive a burst.
Agree like I was surprised no one mentioned pantheon I mean he has the easiest hard cc in the game plus the busted e
I'm mastery 7 Kalista and I've never really felt she is hard to play. She is different for sure but she teaches players to click between every auto and she has so much outplay potential. She basically has built in smite but with damage that scales to champs. As long as you aren't playing against an ashe, I feel like she is relatively easy. Even makes CSing easier
She's hard if youre not used to kiting. For me it was the ult that was hard at first. Back then i hadnt played other champs than adcs so i had a hard time figuring out when to ult. Beyond that shes constantly nerfed pretty hard and has a smaller range so you need good positioning and ig managing her e but if youve played xayah and twitch its easy enough
u cannot benefit from kiting after 20 mins into the game, making kalista one of the hardest adcs if not the hardest
As a shaco enjoyer I think #133 is totally not the case. I mean he has a simple kit but I feel like he is a coinflip if you can't punish and you will end up useless sooner or later, something like Nidalee.
I thought the same here
shaco is a hard champ because it is so easy to mess up
The fact that Yasuo is behind irelia shows how insane this list is.
akali and kata on list is funny
Its not like its a list made by chall players yk
more like bronzes@@Fraizzio
bro lee sin in the top 3 hardest champs and he even outrank riven
Honestly, Kalista is the hardest champ ever. Aphelios, you just need to know the basic gun cycles, then you can just play him like any other regular ADC. Other champs on the list (Azir Lee etc) has high skill ceiling but can be easy to understand. Kalista has both high skill ceiling, high skill floor, and heavily needs good team coordination
Me and a friend main Yuumi and Garen respectfully. I'll bully him forever using this vote saying Garen is easier
The difference is that with Garen you also have to farm and can't watch Netflix while playing Garen
But I get you,go make him as mad as possible 😅
I personally dont think Aphelios is too hard. His primary difficulty is understanding what he does but once you do his gameplay really does devolve into "right click"
Man the people voting on these polls must all either be new players or have some mental disability. Some of these spots are crazy
Heh heh look at me I'm so much better than everybody and so much more intelligent! people are too dumb for me I'm a genius 😮💨
1) Aphelios is not that hard if you've been playing ADC for a bit. After about 50 games with Aphelios you pretty much know how to cycle your guns and know how to combo the guns (Kindred and Camille are harder than Aphelios)
2) It is INSANE to me that Elise isn't in the top 5 most difficult champs to play--everyone should play her in the jungle once or twice to see what I mean
3) Anyone who think Master Yi is super easy to play is probably bronze or silver--you have to know when to use his W to mitigate damage, how to use it as an auto attack reset, how to use Q when diving someone under tower, how to use Q to dodge important abilities, how to play in team fights, etc.
It would be fun to see how different ranks think of this - because it's obvious that this list is heavily influenced by silver/gold players.
No viego is an actual crime you cant tell me qiyana akali or zed are harder than needing to know what every champs basic abilities do.
I main ADC, and Aphelios wasn't too hard to pick up. Of course playing any champion at a high level is difficult but I feel Aphelios was an easier champion to learn especially because of how straightforward and how 'no bs' his tooltips explaining the abilities were. Aphelios was a champion that looked complicated at first glance, and especially will give you a headache when trying to digest his kit for the first time mid-game. I believe the hardest champions are the ones that rely on each part of their kit's combo hitting in order to deal a suitable amount of damage in response to how much hp and mana (or energy) spent.
Sona not being #1 easiest is wild 😭😭 most simplest kit.
1. Attack
2. Heal
3. Speed
4. Stun
Old aurelion sol could also qualify! Ball dragon still exists in wild rift and his role is incredibly unique. I find tgat he actually has some of the best laning in tge game since he's excellent at keeping people away (those stars HURT)
Still mad they reworked him. Just because people don't understand or play him doesn't mean he isn't enjoyed by many people.
Old Asol was definetely one of the hardest champs both mechanically and macro-wise. But new Asol is just pure noob champ that requires nothing more than 2 hands and 50 IQ
I am surprised soraka isn't in the easiest champion list. You can learn how to play her in a matter of minutes and no matter how bad you play, you will still be useful.
Ezreal is by far the hardest champ in league, the only champ in league that can miss all his damage constantly compare to the role its played, 90% of adc are just kite and basics, maybe Zeri can be count in missing damage, but the cooldowns are way differents, I know there are more champs that can miss damage constantly, like Xerath, Vel Koz, etc, but they are just different to Ezreal
Ez is ezpz
Assassins are hard untill you get 1 kill. Then you just faceroll everything.
Aphelios is really easy. His passive is a paragraph, and his q is 5 different abilities, but you have to remember that his passive pretty much is his whole kit. He is the hardest to first time because to play him you need to understand gun rotation and gun combos, but a few games makes it pretty easy. He's mechanically very simple. He has no fancy combos (for the most part). It looks really complex due to the gun combos, and to someone who doesn't play him, it may seem impossible to understand, but it's not that hard. It would be interesting to see a new poll done where you ask the mains of that champion how hard they think he is, and compare that to what the rest of the community views that champion's difficulty as.
Azir has to be the most overstated difficult champion ever. The champion plays itself and just pokes down teams from max range passively.
The shurima shuffle is an insanely easy combo, a basic insec requires more execution
the fact fiora isnt in the top 5 is hilarious to me
Fiora? Nahhh, her kit is simple af, execution wise you really dont have to do much, just time the W correctly like Garen, proc weakness with Q or just wait till its in the right spot if you are laning, the R is pretty simple too, you dont even have to proc all 4 most of the time, just 2-3 would be enough damage. With correct builds you should be quite sturdy too, PLENTY of rooms for mistakes.
@@vunguyenlong5738 Yeah. So easy to "just" time W correctly when half champs have either instacast on their CC or nuke ( you also need to know which one is worth parrying ) and its by miles more important to do so, in comparison to garen, who can almost ignore that spell. Hitting vitals isnt all that easy either with minions around and opponent kiting you, while you also have to keep in mind that W and you gotta dodge sht with you Q too, without comprimising its stab into vital.¨
Dude. You make it sound like you start the game at 4 items, with one item lead on top and your lane opponent is always slow, low ranged control mage with telegraphed CC that you can run just whenever. Thats not your average experience. Your average experience is someone like trundle, who even if you put half item behind, will still statcheck you once he finishes DS even if you parry his Q and slow his AS and you hit everything.
Aphelios isn't really that difficult, the only difficult thing for him is wasting bullets to get the weapon you want or needed, but his combos are pretty straightforward... Flamethrower with Chakram for AOE damaging and melting enemies, Rifle or Pistol with Cannon for Easy poke, Pistol and Flamethrower for clearing minion waves, and Pistol with Chakram for duels
I swear I cringe everytime I see irelia considered hard
Play her.
no shaco in the hard list is crazy
Master yi in third place for easiest champ is a crime, yes hes frustratin when ahead. But to get there and not throw is not easy at all.
As an Aphelios main: he's hard to learn, but easy to master. You can get his guns down in less than 20 games and once the novelty wears off and you work out your optimal weapon rotation (red > white > green > purple/blue > blue/purple down to preference) you've already reached 80% of the champ's potential really.
Putting Nidalee at number 10 immediately tells me that most of the voters never played her
Yeah I play Nid for the first time and drop 20 kills without breaking a sweat she is fun and not difficult to learn
@@mattthechickthon6445She is easy if you are bronze/silver. Those players don't even try to dodge the Q. gl playing her in higher elo.
@@grizzlyz367 exactly, any champ is easy in low elo
@@mattthechickthon6445 try playing her in anything higher than Plat 4 brother cause Nidalee vs good players is different from Nidalee vs bad players
@@Nidalee_Enjoyer I had to look that guy up because I saw him everywhere in the comments saying hard champs are easy. Looks like he is silver 3 peak with negative winrate. I can see why he thinks some champs are easy...
Garen is crazy more difficult than what people imagine.
Avoiding trades in turn of keeping the passive up
Q'ing only after a slow has struck you to cancel it
Timing CC with your W
Sticking to specific targets with your E during teamfights for maximum damage
If the ult doesn't execute, that person's just gone...
Yeah and can't this be said about other easy champs? With naut if you hook the wrong champ, your whole team dies, with yi if you mistime your Q you can get hit by cc, if you mistime your W you don't get the 90% damage reduction, with annie if you fuck up your passive you lose all trades..... What you're talking about is basic game knowledge and the difference between easy and hard champs is that the easy ones can be used without perfectly utilising every ability while if you give a champ like nidalee or azir into the hands of a beginner they won't be able to do anything with them. Speaking from experience. And don't try to make Garen look like a skilled champion because he isn't lol. At least try it with a champ that's somewhat skillful like pantheon or galio, or idk... 🤣🤣
As a GP main place 4 is definetly deserved. I spent so many hours just to get every common barrel combo consistently. BTW: If you are starting out on gp try learning the 3 barrel combo first, best way to get early cheese damage in lane. Another question, how many of you would enjoy a very comprehensive (30min+) GP tutorial for this or the next season? Like discussing most matchups and the item build and every combo
saying gp is hard is like saying riven is the hardest champ to play
Good for you that you think GP is easy to play. Most people are not that fortunate@@adamcherkaoui1388
@@adamcherkaoui1388 Actually curious who is in ur opinion the hardest one.
@@hidesidehs5271 it depends really , you mean mechanically?
@@adamcherkaoui1388 No, in general. You can list the reason.
the thing with some of the hardest champs is they have a low skill floor, but an extremely high skill ceiling
yeah so that beats the purpose of hardest, skill floor is what counts for a champ to be hard , skill ceiling is how advanced a champ is
Comparing champions like this makes no sense. Someone like lee sin, riven, zed takes mechanical skills, and someone like bard or twisted fate takes game knowledge and someone like kalista and draven takes positioning.
I recently picked up aphelios a couple days ago and tbh the only hard part is probably his weapon combos and rotations and optimally using his skills with low amo for crazy boom boom pow combos
Should've made this video after Hwei releases because there will easily be a new no. 1.
no he would not
he is easy and broken his combos are easy and the damage is crazy
Not really, I have played him a lot on PBE and he's a lot more intuitive than he looks like. He has 9 basic abilities, but most of them are very situational (QW, WQ, WW, EW), so it's about spamming WE, using EE or EQ for cc and QQ or QE to deal the damage
how was nasus not rated on the list of easiest champs
5 people saying Aphelios being the easiest are trolls, for some reason innately vibe with the champion and their abilities from the outset
or most likely: Have 2 PhDs in physics and play LOL in their spare time
11:41 Garen has hidden depths, his abilities don't just do what you say, his Q is a 1.5 second silence, and his W combines a shield with damage reduction plus a brief bit of boosted tenacity. Also his E is a skillshot, meaning it has counter play.
Kalista definitely deserves to be up there, using her passive effectively after having a few attack speed items is insanely difficult
Definitely think aphelion should be much lower than the likes of riven azir lee sin etc. Once you know the rotation of gun pairs and learn which fights to take or when to have which gun pair available he feels pretty straight forward imo. Nowhere near the pain in the ass of learning riven combos etc
One champion that was Really hard to master was old Aurelion Sol, that thing was a roaming monster and a spacing machine that in the right hands can take over a whole game
Now well, he just got turned into a generic late game mage ):
These video seems to ask for highest and lowest skill floors. It’d be really cool to see a video of highest and lowest skill ceilings!
I love how easiest champs went from 0 skill mundo goes where he pleases and mf lane sized ult and damage plus movespeeds and then lux a champ where every ability is a skillshot, tells me that people who voted are hard stuck silvers
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We can't say a mage is easy, tank is easy, you just have to take damage and make space for your team.
And ADC and jungler are hard, because in team fight you are good don't mean you are in laning phase, and that where those roles are hard, know how to gank is not that easy (except for the life steal jungler, they are exception).
The fact that aphelios is no.1 hardest champion invalidates the list
On God
"Kat has a HORRIBLE early game"
*rolls clip of kat blasting her laner at level 3*
Riven is the hardest by far not even the 200 years champ is close, im not even going to explain why, just search guides on youtube and if u still think that is not the hardest probably you are below plat and dont know shit about micro and macro, just play her in +gold and try to even win the lane
True
how is macro relevant to mastering riven? but yea riven should be top 3
@@randomas1864 you need to learn how to play and manage waves, cuz riven plays without teleport,
@@ailtoncruz494 without tp you have less options In the game macro-wise
LMAO bumblefuck riven players thinking their champion is hard to play. How cute.
Yeah, I agree w Akali being placed way too highly. The champ looks way too flashy for what it really is. She has the 3rd highest base HP regen in the game and you start d shield almost every match up, so with second wind, d shield, and just base hp regen, she is super forgiving and 90% of the time youll just out sustain your laner unless its like vlad or gragas. On top of that, her hardest counters are all super low pick rate champs like kassadin, taliyah, jayce, and vlad, so you rarely ever get put into a horrible match up. Her q takes a while to get used to the short range and knowing when youre close enough to poke, but other than that, super simple ability. Her W is literally just free invis in an area for a short amount of time, extremely broken. Her E is a free engage/disengage, depending on how you use it. Her R isn't hard to use either, point and click dash that deals damage and R2 is a free cast dash that also deals damage, which acts like another free engage/disengage.
Just wait until you get a Garen mid and says f*** you to your W with his E
tl;dr people know nothing about league macro, so they think skill difficult is making combo.
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thats happend when bronze and sliver players (biggest population) judge hard champions by making combo.
calling yasuo, katarina, zed, irelia or aphelios hard its like saying, that teemo or nasus are easy.
everyone with any basic knowlege will know, that league is something more than doing one combo.
there are questions how difficult is survive/dominate early, is comeback after being behind is possible, do you have any push potential, how its easy to counter your champion etc.
yasuo, kata, zed etc. have easy early game, by "easy" i mean - can easy survive every lane by no losing farm, have good push and poke potential, extremaly good spikes and game is over after being 1/0, cuz have amazing scaling, good stomp potential, and being raid boss after any adventage.
meanwhile nasus, who is "SO EASY", cant survive early game, if enemy jungler will come, you are done, if your jungler wont come, you are done.
if enemy will have adventage, you are done, if you have adventage (somehow) you not even winning.
well, but atleast he have good late game, right? - NO. he cant win against any good bruiser, and most "hard" (XD) champs hard outscale him, like yasuo, yone or irelia, who easy can stomp him on side, even in late game, while they had free lane.
all what i mean is - most people are stupid and dont understand basic of the game, all they know is some champs have combo and some dont have, so this one are easy, and second one are hard.
League community doesnt even know what champs are actually easy or hard to play it makes so much sense
the hardest champ should def be ezreal not aphelios, aphelios is just scary to understand because it's weird but once u understood the abilities he have it's not hard to play him
Rek'Sai the only champion with 0 votes for easiest and I think it's for the reason.
The difficulty in aphelios is that he has zero hp and requires perfect positioning
Also having good guns for fights takes planning and coordination
Neither are mechanically difficult but contribute to overall difficulty in a different way
i main aphelios, i started playing league about two years ago and i immediately started playing him despite my friends telling me not to cuz he's too hard. but i honestly feel like people are making him seem harder than he is. i got the hang of his weapon passives in only like 4 or 5 games, what's more important is how u combine them :3
I played league for about 3 years and the hardest 3 in my opinion are probably Azir, Riven, and it’s between maybe like Quiana, Gangplank and Lee sin
Idk which one I’d choose
"Aphelios is complicated man!!!"
-ppl who only took a glance at his abilities and never played him
Outside joke:"one and only demacian"
Me:"And I took this personally"
should‘ve talked about lee sin passive abit since it‘s so hard to keep your energy high at all times,
also zed is easy what are you guys on
I always felt like Nasus is one of the easier players. Was a little surprised not to see him
You know what’s funny: some people who think certain champions are easy, like yasuo, are usually below gold. They have never witnessed someone like dzukill play it. And this applies to many champions
i play aphelios often, it took me a while to get used to him. you need to know the gun order first. after you know the gun order it gets easier