Personally, I also hesitated between the ID3 (new one) and the Megane etech. I finally bought a Megane. When testing them, I preferred the reasonable acceleration of the Megane at low speed and felt uncomfortable with the strong propulsion of the id3, especially in urban environment (i use the eco mode with the Megane in cities). This is really a matter of taste. Another important point is the 22kw charger if you cannot charge at home. This is my case. But both cars are really great electric cars (but still quite expensive).
Love the car but why do UK cars have a smaller info screen? This stopped me in my tracks from placing an order. Apparently Renault has said don't worry the smaller screen will have better resolution.... that doesn't help or explain why.
I was told on my last live event it have better resolution so screen is sharper but also we will received wireless android auto and apple car play. 12.3 will have wired but again have to wait for UK spec to see
Apparently it's because of the right hand drive in UK along with the shortage of components. And that's why they would have decided, at the moment, to only produce dashboards with the 9-inch infotainments.
@@kamil6024 in Spain, 12inch infotainment has also wireless android auto and apple carplay. What 9inch does NOT have is Google Automotive Services, so no Google Maps or Play Store at all. 9 inch only has phone replication (Android Auto or Apple CarPlay).
@@AlbertRibas thanks for this information, I asked those question to renault tech guys and they never mentioned this. Definately I will revisit when they will have first UK models. If this is the case I will cancel my priority list
@@BatteryLife from 0-50kmh you dont really need high acceleration not to mention its still faster at accelerating than the average BMW ... after 50kmh it is really good .... more than enough for the average driver if you want a fast accelerating car... buy a tesla then... thats my rule
Find it strange that 0-50 is so slow. When the car was launched there were some tests with journalists and they said that it was rather quick in the 0-50 range (see for example this test around 32:25 th-cam.com/video/m96pRSxI3ZA/w-d-xo.html) Did Renault adapt something in the actual production model? Going to test it out as wel in september when I go for my testdrive.
@@BatteryLife You need to perform one final test: a Dragrace with your ID3 :D With camera setup that we can see who is quickest of the line and where the lost time is made up! New project! :D
@Tom Verleysen : as far as i've understood, this was a pre-release model. I'm not sure they changed anything. Point is this is a traction so forward wheel can easily spin with high torque. I guess Renault saw how the Kona (allmost same torque / power / weight) spin easily (see : th-cam.com/video/rapCyRFXZ_U/w-d-xo.html). good point is that wheels will have longer live with this "restriction". I'd prefe high acceleration either :p
Megane amazing software. But Id.3 more stable, comfy and feels better acceleration from the stand still. And those things are more important to me. Id.3 stays
@@opjoter it does not.. It has coasting and 3 regen levels. The higher one will slow down significantly but not stop. It's not a true one pedal driving experience. If you don't brake, you will crash into the car infront of you
Looks great! I’m really curious to see how they gonna do with the Renault 5 Eletric and Alpine 5 Eletric. Chris will you take a look at those models in the future? Not a big fan of the SUV line up, but curious to see the B Segment
Nice you take the time to do a rounded review. love that you show the flicker as well. your ID3 does not have flickering backlights. Continental OpenR technology has much to recommend it but the PWM backlight dimming is a mistake they should rectify
Harsh deceleration in ID.3 after turning off ACC is because you are in B mode, user error. Try in D mode, it just coasts until it needs to slow down with eco assist.
But I want to drive in B Mode, less stepping around on the brake pedal. It is a preference, not User error. In the Megane I can be in the highest Regen and it doesn't do it. But I already heard that Id.3 should get that with 3.1 or 3.2 software.
@@buddy1155 well, first I do not think the Megane is slow. 7.4 seconds is respectable. I believe it's the way Renault chose to tune the power delivery. People say that the Kona electic is zippy - but that does 0-100 in 7.6. It feels faster because of the higher torque (395 vs 300) - but it's actually not faster - that initial kick - dies off very soon while the Renault has a more linear delivery.
@@buddy1155 just because Renault implemented this particular power curve doesn't mean that this curve is at the edge of traction. You don't know that giving a bit more low rev power would have broken traction. They have 40 and 60 kWh batteries which is very stingy vs the sibling Ariya so probably it's Renault's strategy to make it underpowered to squeeze out a couple more km of range for such a small battery.
Personally, I also hesitated between the ID3 (new one) and the Megane etech. I finally bought a Megane. When testing them, I preferred the reasonable acceleration of the Megane at low speed and felt uncomfortable with the strong propulsion of the id3, especially in urban environment (i use the eco mode with the Megane in cities). This is really a matter of taste. Another important point is the 22kw charger if you cannot charge at home. This is my case. But both cars are really great electric cars (but still quite expensive).
👌 Great Video and Information. Thx 👍
If 0-100 is same time as ID3, and Megane is slow off the line, then ID3 must be slow where I really counts: 50-100
Doesn't feel that way. Try it.
@@BatteryLife but ID3 has to be slower at some part of the range for them to have almost identical 0-100 times
Totally Agree. The id3 must be crap as well then. Ps I am trading up from my id3 to this beautiful car
Favolosa❤️❤️🔝🔝💪
Love the car but why do UK cars have a smaller info screen? This stopped me in my tracks from placing an order. Apparently Renault has said don't worry the smaller screen will have better resolution.... that doesn't help or explain why.
No idea.
I was told on my last live event it have better resolution so screen is sharper but also we will received wireless android auto and apple car play. 12.3 will have wired but again have to wait for UK spec to see
Apparently it's because of the right hand drive in UK along with the shortage of components. And that's why they would have decided, at the moment, to only produce dashboards with the 9-inch infotainments.
@@kamil6024 in Spain, 12inch infotainment has also wireless android auto and apple carplay. What 9inch does NOT have is Google Automotive Services, so no Google Maps or Play Store at all. 9 inch only has phone replication (Android Auto or Apple CarPlay).
@@AlbertRibas thanks for this information, I asked those question to renault tech guys and they never mentioned this. Definately I will revisit when they will have first UK models. If this is the case I will cancel my priority list
The acceleration is good when it counts, which is when you need to overtake.
Na, going off the line and driving away from a big BMW behind you is awesome with just 200hp.
@@BatteryLife Sure, but even if it feels slow in the start the 0-100 time is almost the same as id3, isn't it?
@@BatteryLife from 0-50kmh you dont really need high acceleration not to mention its still faster at accelerating than the average BMW ... after 50kmh it is really good .... more than enough for the average driver
if you want a fast accelerating car... buy a tesla then... thats my rule
Find it strange that 0-50 is so slow. When the car was launched there were some tests with journalists and they said that it was rather quick in the 0-50 range (see for example this test around 32:25 th-cam.com/video/m96pRSxI3ZA/w-d-xo.html) Did Renault adapt something in the actual production model? Going to test it out as wel in september when I go for my testdrive.
The time is ok, but it feels so slow.
@@BatteryLife You need to perform one final test: a Dragrace with your ID3 :D With camera setup that we can see who is quickest of the line and where the lost time is made up! New project! :D
@Tom Verleysen : as far as i've understood, this was a pre-release model. I'm not sure they changed anything. Point is this is a traction so forward wheel can easily spin with high torque. I guess Renault saw how the Kona (allmost same torque / power / weight) spin easily (see : th-cam.com/video/rapCyRFXZ_U/w-d-xo.html). good point is that wheels will have longer live with this "restriction". I'd prefe high acceleration either :p
The slow start / low torque start started with the Zoe 50 the older Zoe didn’t do this.
Can you switch to satalite view in the main display and/or the instrument cluster?
I haven't tried it, sorry.
You never really did say which you would prefer between the I.D3 and this the Megane e and why you'd choose one over the other ??
Megane amazing software. But Id.3 more stable, comfy and feels better acceleration from the stand still.
And those things are more important to me.
Id.3 stays
Well Chris will you take this car instead of the id3 buy/lease ??
Of course
No
I'm really disappointed with it not having one pedal driving.
I was really expecting it to be available.
But it does, maximum regen basically stops the car
@@opjoter it does not.. It has coasting and 3 regen levels.
The higher one will slow down significantly but not stop.
It's not a true one pedal driving experience.
If you don't brake, you will crash into the car infront of you
Looks great! I’m really curious to see how they gonna do with the Renault 5 Eletric and Alpine 5 Eletric.
Chris will you take a look at those models in the future? Not a big fan of the SUV line up, but curious to see the B Segment
Of course I will
There is a real key, for emergency use, inside the key fob.
Thanks
yes way better than ID3
Which iz more expensive?
@@zlatkobudetic1168 they are quite similar in price, it all depends on the equipment and extras.
Very interesting test!
I do my best
Nice you take the time to do a rounded review. love that you show the flicker as well. your ID3 does not have flickering backlights. Continental OpenR technology has much to recommend it but the PWM backlight dimming is a mistake they should rectify
There is nothing to rectify, unless your eyes are cameras. What do you mean by "Continental technology" ?
@@YannR34 I wonder why people comment without doing any research at all.
@@tomquimby8669 as much as you do. You didn't explain what you meant by continental technology though.
Harsh deceleration in ID.3 after turning off ACC is because you are in B mode, user error. Try in D mode, it just coasts until it needs to slow down with eco assist.
But I want to drive in B Mode, less stepping around on the brake pedal.
It is a preference, not User error.
In the Megane I can be in the highest Regen and it doesn't do it.
But I already heard that Id.3 should get that with 3.1 or 3.2 software.
They really should make this car four wheel drive... shouldn't be too hard it is based on the Nissan Aria (4x4) platform.
This is a 4.2m city car that is actualy smaller than the Capur. AWD make no sense as it induces aditional weight and energy consumption.
@@alladin1314 The only real problem with this car is traction, that is why acceleration is so slow, with all wheel drive this will be solved.
@@buddy1155 well, first I do not think the Megane is slow. 7.4 seconds is respectable. I believe it's the way Renault chose to tune the power delivery. People say that the Kona electic is zippy - but that does 0-100 in 7.6. It feels faster because of the higher torque (395 vs 300) - but it's actually not faster - that initial kick - dies off very soon while the Renault has a more linear delivery.
@@buddy1155 just because Renault implemented this particular power curve doesn't mean that this curve is at the edge of traction. You don't know that giving a bit more low rev power would have broken traction. They have 40 and 60 kWh batteries which is very stingy vs the sibling Ariya so probably it's Renault's strategy to make it underpowered to squeeze out a couple more km of range for such a small battery.
Fanastic car , unfortunately with charging Port on the wrong side when you enter in small garages . As Arya has bene designed in Japan
The Cockpit looks a little bit cheap.
an other rubbish car from Stellantis,
Renault is not in the Stellantis group…