gyro in his final moments realized something revolutionary about the spin, thats why he poses the "shortest path was a detour" comment as a lesson to johnny. he realized that no matter what, the infinite spin will reach its target, even if it has to take the longest detour possible. gyro was truly a master of the spin, and an amazing coach to johnny. thank you, gyro...
Something I just realized, Tooru thought all that existed were dreams and memories, and he was beaten by Josuke, the man without memories and Kato, the woman without that bypassed WoU by changing her goal/dream.
So, what you’re saying is Tusk’s infinite energy’s shortest path to ending the Calamity was a 100-year detour? Where have I heard something like that before? Thank you, Gyro
I love the irony of the final moments of Tooru, when he needs someone to approach him so that he can activate the Locacaca fruit's Equivalent Exchange. There's a beautiful karma there, that his seeming salvation would be just a short distance away, yet he's unable to reach it as all of the negative karma he has built up over his life comes back to haunt him in a fashion not so different to what his stand has been doing to others.
Also not to mention that Tooru ends up on the short end of a Locacaca's equivalent exchange, the very thing he's been peddling. Then he exchanges with the Higashikata family curse which is a disease that turns someone to stone, and Tooru is a Rock Human. It's a rather fitting demise. I appreciate the role Josuke plays in Tooru'a defeat as Josuke was indirectly created by Tooru, and is a result of his sins.
Araki loves dooming his villains to the thing they're been exploiting all life long. Diavolo dodges fate when it's convenient, and gets deleted off of fate entirely right when he WAS fated to kill giorno and win in the next 10 seconds, that's the most direct example, but most of the main villains have something like this deep down. Kira has a lot of trouble because his relationship with "living a quiet life" was very complicated. He could have lived a quiet life after he changed appearance, but he didn't.
Kira is basically Jotaro too and since his Killer Queen is a part of the stand that is Tusk redefined. Man they really are the same theory. Except this one is much better
@@ivanl.8054 Also, there is a theory that the flashback man is a reference to Johnny (they have the same hair color), and another that he is a representation/alternative form of Soft & Wet in the same way Akefu Satoru represents Wonder of U. I don't believe so much in these theories individually, but together with this one they can really make sense.
it's so wild to think how jojo started out as a fairly straightforward story of generational struggles between good and evil and slowly morphed into something so dense and esoteric. it's really beautiful and i don't think we would have gotten this far if araki didn't push the envelope of what a battle manga could be
It's sad people often overlook or dismiss the more out there and deep concepts explored in JoJo as just being weird or random. Most of the fandom focuses on the goofiness or fighting and brand jojo as shallow.
@@boianko I think it's a testament to how good of a writer Araki is. You can focus on the deep concepts he is talking about or you can just enjoy the goofy fights and interactions between stands and allow the deep stuff to go over your head. You can think about the existential questions being asked, or you can ignore all that and take part in the silly but enjoyable fantasy. You can do either, or both and enjoy it either way. It's not easy to do that, usually it's one or the other.
This video made me realize that a lot of people (me too) are defining the ending as bad but very few are actually trying to understand why things might have happened. The initial monologue of jojolion talks about forces of good and evil but that gets always overshadowed by the "breaking a curse". I still think that the higashikatas had too much of a minor role in that and I expect jobin and tsurugi's development to be concluded in the next part, but that doesn't mean that the ending is horrible or that the whole part is horrible.
To be sure! I think you hit the nail on the head, that theres more to talk about than a simple binary of "either good or bad". Mind you, I don't want people to get the impression that I think JoJolion or its ending are flawless. People were disappointed in the ending for a reason, and it certainly came sooner and did different things than what I myself imagined. In the context of being a monthly Shonen Fight manga the ending seems abrupt and oddly paced, and in an ending those are flaws that can seriously ruin someone's experience. If someone is upset by that I fully see why, and I wouldnt try to argue that they should feel otherwise. But "flawless" isnt a word I'd use to describe JoJo in general and it isnt what I look for in this series. JoJo is great precisely BECAUSE it pushes the envelope and does the unexpected. Naturally that means that it sometimes falls a little flat in some regards, but what it achieves due to those risks is way more interesting to me than a lot of other stories that may have less flaws. I doubt that everything I said in the video, how I arranged it, was Araki's intention. But the themes that I drew on, the enduring of dreams and the fulfillment of hope in ways the characters could have never envisioned due to their lasting bonds, I think that stuff IS there, and I loved teasing it out and analyzing those connections. In that respect the ending is brilliant. Recognizing the good does not preclude the bad. and vice versa. For me it lands in a place that completely works, but that's my own experience. =D
Every part of jojo i read the first time through, usually bored or confused me. The endings often felt sudden and bereft of meaning. It's usual with hindsight, knowledge of the story as a whole and narrative devices (that araki introduced along the way) that the second read made sense and resonated with me. All subsequent reads only improved and added upon this resonance as nuance appeared from chains of meaning and intersecting themes. This video showed me one out of the likely many themes that araki hid within his latest work.
@@Blasterfreund I agree, but no other part leaves entire motivations, entire development arcs to fall flat. Like saving holly. Gappy might've been his own person, but he owed her. Her exclusion in the ending is the one thing that stuck in my crawl. I don't mind unanswered questions or ambiguity, but she became a third of what an entire 10 year story was building to resolve to. People critique tooru, and while his inclusion earlier would've been great, I actually did like the character. I still think the criticism is valid as Jobin and his mother though we're the best choice for an antagonistic force, she could've still saved Tsurugi and subverted expectations. For a lot of us, this is something we've read for years and generally loved a lot in a lot of ways, so yes, good or bad is a very hard line to draw when describing something this massive and this newly concluded. However, like many people have said, there are valid criticisms not nearly as prevalent in any other part than part 8. To me this is saddening because of how much potential it had, conceptually, it has the most potential in the series. To your point, the one part I really had trouble liking as much as the rest of the series is part 5, and that has changed, so maybe I will change my views with part 8 on a second complete read.
The idea of a single attack that slowly perseveres for over a 100 years is an incredible Interpretation that redefined my whole look on this part (one i already loved but now have to re read because of you :D). The fact that everything stems from this concept of flow. the flow of calamity and the flow of good fortune are intertwined in a battle that ended with Gappy, a man born of the land and awoken by the sea which ties into him being a miracle made by good fortune.
If you think about it, Wonder of U himself references this a lot. He always talks about the "flow of Calamity". Why wouldn't there be different "flows"?
Thank you so much for the praise! I absolutely loved making this video. JoJo just has so much to talk about and dig into, and JoJolion was fascinating to follow. I only got on board the past couple years, so I'm really excited to read JoJolands from the beginning!
@@OtherMeanings I also see this: infinite spin=miracles and blessings,calamity=sin and destruction,neither johnny or funny were the best of people but johnny had the character to be redeemed or reflect on his actions while funny saw it as a means to an end plus they're justified this separates them.Funny using doppelgangers before getting the corspe parts beforehand was like avoiding personal calamities by shielding himself with another valentine.
I like your theory because it's a more concrete version of jonathan's legacy in the original universe. In part 1, jonathan's actions create a legacy which continues through the bloodline. The joestar family wasn't necessarily on the side of righteousness from the beginning, but it starts being there after jonathan, and we know this because we see the actions of every single one of his descendants. Here we would have the same result but linked through the infinite rotation, in a generational effort to defeat the power of calamity and break the curse.
I know this comment is about 2 years old, but I don't think it triggered WW2, but instead, triggered Pearl Harbor, which casued the U.S. to enter the war in December of 1941. U.S. Citizens weren't allowed to enter Japan again until the Occupation Period starting in 1945. The ironic part about all of this was that Lucy Steel died of her lung disease in 1944, one year before she could've made another attempt at going back to Japan.
Dude. I could not, for the longest time, understand that scene between George and Johnny Joestar and how Autumn Leaves crushed him and no one would explain it to me. If nothing else, thank you for that explanation.
The idea of the Spin’s connection to Gravity, and Gravity’s connection to Calamity and the logic of the universe made me think about something. Rai points out that Jōsuke’s bubbles aren’t just spinning, but they’re specifically spinning strings. What if Go Beyond can transcend the logic of the universe because it’s spinning Strings, like from String Theory? It can transcend the logic of the universe because it is directly interacting with and changing that logic by manipulating the fundamental building blocks of reality. Jōsuke is using the Spin to essentially rewrite reality on a small scale.
A year late (since Part 8 in color just finished) but I think it's both a reference to String Theory (outer dimensional properties) and Virtual Particles (seemingly non-existent emergent properties/disturbances). Go Beyond and its infinite thinness, constant spin generation, and explosive property basically acts as a carrier for a logic that transcends the logic of the material universe. I don't think it's really a matter of 'rewriting the universe' so much as it's activating no-clipping and busting through the barriers of things like the energies of calamity, purely through physics. I came to Jojo fairly late but I'm astonished at how parallel my personal writing sensibilities are compared to Araki's, he seems to believe on some level that there is a beauty and divinity behind physics, that ultimately serves as a platonic ideal for life.
the rock humans figure out the Rokakaka had a branch taken from under them because they weight the whole plant before and after every deal. Josefumi and Kira took the branch after one of the deals and when the rock humans weighted the plant it was heavier instead of ligther (because they just pluck a fruit for one of their clients). Cleaver explanation from Araki imo
plus the visual seems to suggest that the swapped branches wilt differently as well, likely due to the different biology, which iirc is what tipped them off that there's something wrong in the first place as confirmed by the weights
@@theflashgordon193 They tracked down every single sick/disabled person in Morioh since only those type of people had knowledge of the Loca and they narrowed it down to Holly Kira Keep that in mind there was time skip between Josefumi and Kira stealing the branches and the Earthquake that swallowed them both
Now, despite how abruptly it felt like the part ended, and the fact that that is still easily seen as a negative, I agree with this. This theory is likely as close as we'll get to hitting the nail on the head with Araki's intentions. At least, I feel like it's so. And the themes perfectly match with the spirit of JoJo s a whole, still tying it up as a generational story that carries the hopes, dreams, and intentions of the first generation down through the line. The video was nothing short of beautiful, and really makes me see a lot of JoJolion in a different light. I think it makes me appreciate the part as a whole a lot more, and personally might make it my favourite part, whereas Steel Ball Run was beforehand.
Thank you for the comment! It genuinely makes me happy to hear people considering JoJolion in a different way after watching the video. It's a story that I enjoyed a lot and it's cool to be able to share that enjoyment with others.
This is a really cool interpretation of Jojolions story, great video, especially for your first on the channel. It's a really interesting take on the relationship between the flow of calamity and the flow of the Spins good fortune. Your theory of it gradually shedding physical form across the years until it can manifest in Go Beyond is awesome. Whether these were Araki's intentions or not, it's great that theories like this can be drawn from the story and make sense. I think it's a result of Araki leaning more and more into a thematic style of storytelling with Part 8, where the themes of the story have a much greater influence on events than in most other stories I've ever experienced. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but it's a really unique style of storytelling that I found myself enjoying a lot whole reading Jojolion.
Thanks for the compliments! Yeah, I, for sure, don't think Araki intended everything in my interpretation. I think it's likely a mix of things he intended, themes created in the process of storytelling, and my own little bits of head canon to stitch the whole thing together. But like you say, it's great that we can have these interpretations and discussions about JoJolion. JoJolion's storytelling is so interesting. Stands have only gotten stranger and more representative of a character's themes and motivations, which I think makes the story feel increasingly surreal. It's part of why I don't get so hung up on smaller plot inconsistencies. I don't think JoJo's main storytelling aim, as it has gone on, is really at the plot level. I think Araki is trying to portray certain emotions, dynamics, and conflicting philosophies, visually on the page, in a way that gives the reader a sense of those things. It's so cool to read and look at.
@@OtherMeanings No problem, it's always great to see people discussing Jojo in ways that go beyond "Haha this series is so wacky and memey". It's got so much more going on that that, especially with the later parts. I'm with you on being able to overlook smaller plot inconsistencies. This part was written over the course of more than a decade. I would not expect any human being, regardless of age or skill, to be able to avoid plot inconsistencies in a story they've been telling for that long. And honestly I think some of 'inconsistencies' people attribute to Jojolion are a little weird (I.e. I don't think Bling Baby is meant to be any more significant than simply a demonstration of the good fortune of the area that resulted from Johnny's actions). The story is about miracles vs calamities, the significance of dreams and memories on a persons life, and the flow in which the characters in the story find themselves caught in (I really enjoy flow as a new way of describing the concept of Fate that was set up in the orignal universe). And as long as these are handled in interesting and unique ways, which I believe they are, I'm 100% down for it. I'd be lying if I said Part 8 ended how I expected it to, but I fully expect Part 9 to continue this thematic arc, since Araki seems to be going out of his way to make the Steel Ball Run universe into an interconnected story.
I love how civilised and intelligent conversation about part 8 are, while whenever I read discussions over part 4 for example I feel like the community is absolutely retarded
You just made me appreciate Jojolion even more than I already do, amazing theory. It’s a small thing, but I love how you used actual character quotes to title each of the sections. In a sense, the quotes came together to form a little “tldr” of the entire theory, which added to its really well “put-together” feel. And I agree that the minor plot inconsistencies don’t hamper the story; Jojolion is probably the most “themes over plot” story of all the parts, and it is these wide interpretations of the story that add to its sense of ethereality that break away from a “physical and single plot”, which the premise is backhanded on. Just like the infinite rotation sheds it’s physical form, I think that is the whole point. Josuke is literally likened as a Christlike figure after all.
This is the best interpretation of anything JoJo I've ever seen. It summarises and explains all the most important plot elements in the new universe in a unified theory, that doesn't speculate on things the author obviously couldn't have planned or kept in mind, but instead rests on the themes that are carried over throughout the entirety of the series. While not as carefully detailed as in this video, the one broad stroke connecting the beginning and end of the story together seems like something that definitely also lived in Araki's mind. Yes, Araki likely comes up with many things on the spot, as evidenced by minor retconning of design elements and the dropping of secondary storylines. However, this impulsive creation IS born from a focus on a single idea, coming together in the strangest and most fun ways Araki can think of. You've perfectly put into words all the things I love about JoJo that run deeper than the visuals, characters and individual story arcs: The theme of 'things being connected', and the inspiring and comforting idea that a sacred and special fate will follow you everywhere as long as your human will is as strong as possible.
This video is utterly fantastic. I love it when people give literary and thematic analysis to JoJo parts, and this video is truly one of the best at it. This interpretation has solidified JoJolion as one of my absolute favorite works of fiction. You should feel proud, as this video is an accomplishment on its own.
this video is amazing and analyses Jojolion in such a satisfying way. Jojolion is definitely an amazing part but so many ideas are so abstract that it made trying to understand it kinda difficult (especially when you had to wait months between chapters). the idea that johnny's legacy (tusk act 4) persists just like how jonathan's spirit persists to give every future joestar powers to defeat evils makes me think araki is on another level
8:05 I was just thinking about how Wonder of U is the opposite to Love Train (particularly how Araki uses the Crazy Train scene with Tooru to express it) and then today this video is recommended to me. It’s almost like it was all part of a flow…
I really like this theory, and I like how it explains some of the parts of part 8 I had a hard time swallowing. I always found rina's initial curse to be confusing, and I think it was probably deliberately so, but the Calamity is the only real way it can be explained, I believe. Hopefully this will be elaborated and at least the parallels between the good fortune and calamity will be made more canonical in Jojolands. After all, Araki is no stranger to explaining the most unlikely events with fate. Frankly this video has given me a lot more appreciation for the themes of Part 8, and gotten me more excited for how Part 9 continues it.
I already loved Jojolion alot, but this breakdown made the part even better, the fact that this is your 1st video is beyond me, this video is perfect. Btw im the 100th subscription
Thank you so much! Funny enough I had just checked my subscriptions 10 minutes ago, and then I got thos notification. Thanks for getting me to a 100! So glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for subscribing! Working on another JoJo video right now =D
So the entirety of Jojolion is a metaphysical battle between the Infinite Rotation of Good Luck and the Evil of Calamity's bad luck? And by extension, kindness and helping others leads to more good luck while selfishness and cruelty leads to bad luck. I like how this whole system is reflective of Araki's own beliefs in justice and good. The concepts are literal metaphysical rules of his stories reality.
A fantastic reading. I remember the moment I saw WoU in that panel mimicking Love Train I was certain there was way more planning involved in JoJolion than just random mysteries tied together with a rather simple plot. Hopefully this vid takes off.
I don't know why I never realizes that Joseph asking Jesus if they would meet again and Jesus responding with if it is round it will rotate is essentially confirming that Johnny's relationship with the corpse parts was preordained
I need more, this is an amazing perspective from the usual that I get from the jojo community. The rock humans noticed that the rokakaka plant weighed more than it usually was and it eventually withered few months after.
Thanks, I'm glad you like it! I'm working on another JoJo video right now, actually. I'm trying to track the evolution of the different "tropes" and elements that JoJo uses. You know: what is a Jobro? How does the way that fights are shown change and improve? What kind of arcs tend to be present in most parts? That kind of thing. (I hope that makes sense, my explanations are best when they're more long winded, lol) With all it's unique elements, and such different settings and stories for the arcs, JoJo is almost a genre unto itself, particularly in the later parts, and I really want to pick apart what that means. I'm planning on doing stuff other than JoJo as well, but I have a LOT more to say about JoJo and that next video is the start of a series on it.
@@OtherMeanings looking forward to it. One video idea I’ve had is how the SBR universe shows fate in motion and how it works due to the original timeline.
Amazing video, these connections are amazing but it makes me think of what jojolion could have been. Introducing toru earlier, cutting some of the mysteries that go nowhere, fleshing out go beyond like you have here. “Something that doesn’t exist… that does exist” made absolutely no sense to me, but the idea that the soft and wet bubbles are carrying the influence of a long dead saint’s attack is awesome. Josuke tapped into a power not by regaining his memories or memories of tusk 4, but by carrying on a dream that’s been manifesting itself meagerly through the century
Honestly hope anime does that. Introduce Tooru as a fuck boi flirting with Yasuho from the start. Show Johnny shooting the shot from behind Josuke for the final Go Beyond.
This video did help me feel a bit better about the direction the story took and the very vague and mysterious language used to describe the powers and actions through 8, especially towards the ending. The theory is pretty great. Also the stolen branch thing involves the two different grafted plants wilting in visibly different ways once they were out of season, leading to the smugglers’ suspicion
What started as a detective-style mystery unfolded in a way only Araki can manage and it’s great!. Gappy’s backstory hit me so hard 😭 I’ll admit the ending left me wanting a little more but it was a fun rollercoaster and kinda weird seeing it end after all these years. SBR will always hold a special place in my heart and this was a fantastic follow up for it. Great video! 💯
A pretty genuinely fantastic interpretation of the story and the continuity between part 7 and 8, damn. The ending took a while for me to really come to terms with but this is such a fascinating interpretation of the story as a whole that it makes me want to re-read the whole part with it in mind, great video!
I keep rewatching this because it's so well done. Can't wait for future jojo related stuff (especially stone ocean since people don't discuss and analyse it as much as they should) but I'm also open for different types of videos.
Oh boy this is some quality. It perfectly fits the wider themes of JoJo. From Zeppeli's sacrifice to the Higashikata it always is that the selfless desire to help another will always triumph over selfish self-interest. I was shocked to see how small your channel was until I saw this was your first video. Happily subscribed and waiting for more.
This video made JoJo and especially JoJolion better for me than I even anticipated. Seeing all the themes Araki ever worked on and expanded upon in his story come into play and converge is truly insane. Topics of Fate, Gravity, Fortune, Calamity and Flow seamleassly and unnoticeably intertwining for this grand finale was definitely a roller-coaster of a ride. This is why part 8 is among my favorite parts. Thanks for this phenomenal video, Luis.
This is an amazing video, and really helped me to appreciate Jojolion and even Steel Ball Run a lot more. I never would've put together that Wonder of U's ability is a mirror of the Saint Corpse's!
Very interesting video! I personally feel that when reading Jojolion, there was more to the story than what was being let on, and more themes and concepts that went over a lot of people’s heads (myself included). Keep up the good work!
Something cool you don't bring up is that the way that the Flow of Calamity and the Flow of good fortune work, also has a lot of obscure christian symbolism to it. I learned this from the TV Tropes page; but that sun/snake symbol on Tooru's Jacket is the symbol of the Demiurge. The Demiurge is extremely complicated because there are several interpretations of him, but in general, the Demiurge is a fixture of Gnosticism. Gnosticism was an early splinter of Judeism and Christianity based around the idea that there was a true, benevolent god of the spiritual, and a near-equally powerful god of the material, called the Demiurge. I'm not a theologist and most of my knowledge of Gnosticism comes from the wikipedia page, but across basically all versions, the Demiurge is a force of evil, created either as a byproduct of the creation of a benevolent God, or as a mistake that the benevolent god made, that it was unable to rectify. Both versions of that creation fit Wonder of U perfectly in the context of this theory. Johnny made the mistake of using the "benevolent" power of the Holy Corpse, and his mistake created a near-equal malevolent force, Wonder of U. The Demiurge is believed to have created the living world as a way of weakening its creator. Splitting its spiritual power amongst the living beings of the world so that its power would be unable to reforge. The Gnostics believed that by realizing the true nature of the soul, realizing the true nature of the Demiurge's illusions, and by finding ways of defeating its servants, they could return their souls to the true God and ultimately overcome the Demiurge. Go Beyond is the culimation of Wonder of U's accidental creator, Tusk's, full potential. It is attained after Josuke and his allies defeat Tooru's servants, see through the illusary nature of WoU, and Josuke realizes the true nature of his Stand, and by extension his Soul. Let me repeat, I have no fucking clue what I'm talking about here, and I'm only pointing out surface level connections that I might be misreading. Still if I'm at least a little correct it's a very interesting lense to see the battle between Tusk and WoU through.
It’s still a very fitting theory overall as themes of Christianity came in SBR before Jojolion meaning that this could very well be intentional. Similarly, “lion” of the Jojolion in greek means herald of good fortune apparently and ties into the videos topic of Josuke being the inheritor of the Spin/Tusk A4 due to Johnny’s sacrifice. This video just blew my mind and solidified the later half of JJBA as a fucking masterpiece.
However many points you hit were intentional by Araki or even correct in the end, I think the fact that this theory exists goes to say a lot about the ingenius of JoJolion and the series in general. So many incredible points have been established in the story that allow for such a creative and rich interpretation. I loved this video, keep it up!
Not gonna lie coming out finishing Jojolion it was one of the less good parts in my opinion, but this video changed my perspective in a way I didn’t think of. The idea of Tusks attack being the reason Wonder of U going down is amazing.
Amazing, I've learned way more from this video than other videos talking about Jojolion. Your interpretation fits way better than what I had in mind after finishing the manga. Great job!
One thing I'd like to disagree on is that (if I understood correctly) you're implying that Johnny tried to redirect the curse off of his son to someone else, but it accidentally got him, or it got him due to calamity, and while that is completely logical, in my interpretation, after seeing how much pain it causes to have someone else bear the burden of your loved one (from his wife to his child), I think he decided to break the cycle. Johnny was always a very morally grey character, but I think in the end he went out with a purpusely selfless move, redirecting the disease onto himself and then finishing mimself off, so that nobody else has to bear the weight but him. Your theory makes more sense, but I like the idea that Johnny sacrifices himself instead of letting someone else die to save him, just like his best friend did so many years ago. Gyro made Johnny into a good person, and I'd like to imagine that he realised he has no right to take someone's life to save his son's.
This changes so much thematically for this part it's insane. It makes the drops in plot points, the sudden shifts and drop in characters, the development and the progression of the story so much more sense. Tusk act 4 was trying to find all the pieces needed to beat calamity. It would suddenly change to characters for an opening, a piece to puzzle to win, leave them just as quick when there was no means, no way to beat the wonders of U with it. Then once everything was there, once everything seemed in place. It was time to chase the wonders of U, trigger the calamities, the rock people, the calamities, the insanity that followed. All to eventually have it give tusk the power to defeat it, by becoming a calamity through the bubbles and giving it the power to transcend. It also means that Love train is a duo stand like killer queen with shear heart attack or king crimson and epithet. A stand created in opposite to love trains fortune, representing misfortune. So the reason why wonders of U exists and activated on Johnny, was that he was chasing the corpses power and then tried to destroy "misfortune". Wonders of U's existence, which probably why it's trigger is "being chased" and killed him.
You should note that Act 4 actually did succeed in destroying calamity, at least in his family line. The Higashikata curse never affected any of Johnny and Rina's descendants after Johnn'ys death, so Tusk Act 4's attack did have an immediate result. I like how this theory adds to that though that Tusk Act 4 not only destroyed the curse for Johnny's line but sent "ripples" of coincidences that would lead to destruction of adjacedent forces of calamity as well, Tooru's Wonder of U and the curse on the other side of the family tree.
I would normally claim something like this was a beautiful fan theory to make canon… But having read all of Araki’s work and how he goes about writing, I believe this. I believe that as he made it up as he went along, the one thing that guided his pen was Johnny’s golden spin. That everything that was done was to follow that spin to its target. Araki is one of the short list of writers I have discovered in the past 5 years of my life that has completely changed my approach to my craft. I used to go about things by viewing them in three acts:Fate(the destination), Destiny(the road one chooses to take there), and Determination(How one travels upon that road) Now? Hope and Despair. Balanced on the edge of a knife. The darker the hour, the brighter the light shines to survive. The brighter the world, the darker the shadows it cannot reach become by comparison. Good vs evil. Ideals vs harsh reality. Love vs hate. Always fighting, always competing, but always feeding one into the other for both concepts are immortal. Neither can slay their foe. Because what is hope other than the belief that the darkness will fade? What is despair other than the regrets and doubts formed when that hope goes unrealized? In the world of fiction, these two elements must both exist or the fiction itself falls apart. Hope and despair. These are the elements that make for all fiction and that competition is what makes a story worth telling.
Okay, so what I'm gathering is that. 1. There is a force or field of calamity 'energy' that exists on the world. This calamity energy follows several rules: 1a. The calamity energy wants to keep itself going at all costs. 1b. The calamity energy alters probability to keep itself alive. Anything that happens, if there is any randomness to the outcome, the calamity energy will attempt to alter that outcome to benefit itself. 1c. The calamity energy is centered on the curse afflicting the Higashikata family and preferentially wants to stay in that bloodline; it continues over the generations by transferring through the bloodline, and exists in one individual at a time. Although it is transferred out of the family twice (first by Johnny Joestar to an unknown individual, then later by Kaato Higashikata into the boy who bullied her son), it continually seems to return to the family somehow. 1d. The calamity energy is not properly alive, but by altering probability to benefit itself it (randomly?) gives rise to Wonder Of U, who can think and plan, and make use of the calamity energy strategically. (Though we don't know what mechanisms affects the nature of a stand; it seems to be a combination of genetics and personality). The calamity energy also creats Tooru as a host for Wonder of U, but Wonder of U exists independently of Tooru. 2. Johnny, on realizing the Higashikata family is cursed, attempts to use the Holy Corpse to transfer the curse out of his wife. The calamity energy can't stop the Holy Corpse outright, but it kicks in to make sure the random person the curse gets transferred to is George Joestar, heir to the Higashikata blood. 3. Johnny tries again to cure his son, but instead of relying only on the Holy Corpse, he uses the Corpse to move the curse out of his son, and then in the instant it comes out, he shoots it with the Golden Spin. The Golden Spin is an extremely powerful attack that works on metaphysical rules, and thus can target and destroy the curse, though Johnny needs the curse outside of his son's body to do so safely. 4. The calamity energy kicks in again; altering the trajectory of the curse to pass through Johnny's head, causing the Golden Spin to headshot Johnny as it follows the curse. Additionally, the power of the Holy Corpse suffuses the ground, creating the sliding ginkgo leaf stand, which the calamity energy also takes advantage of to 'randomly' cause Johnny to be double tapped via falling rocks. Because it's fighting the overwhelming power of both the Holy Corpse AND the Golden Spin, this is the best it can do to protect the curse. Nevertheless, the Calamity Energy is seemingly victorious in this exchange, and presumably is able to return to the Higashikata bloodline (offscreen). 5. However, the Joestar bloodline is linked via mechanisms of 'gravity', a force of fate that draws stand users together and, in this theory, is involved in the way the Joestar's inherit their immense willpower and 'Golden Spirit'. The Golden Spin is able to travel along the metaphysical pathway linking the Joestars together. This nonphysical form causes the Golden Spin to take on a similar nature to the Calamity Energy, using coincidences, probability, and chains of events to create a situation where the Higashikata Curse is vulnerable. Additionally, it affects certain Joestar stands to utilize the spin. 6. Lucy Steele visits Japan, searching for the fruit of equivalent exchange (created by the Holy Corpse Energy long ago). She spots Tooru, but Wonder of U kicks in, causing Lucy's sickness to worsen and forcing her to return to the US. However, she meets Joseph Joestar, takes him with her, introduces her to Suzi Q, eventually resulting in Yoshikage and Kei Kira, another branch of the Joestar family, in a series of events possibly affected by the Golden Spin that dwells within the Joestar spirit. 7. Another event possibly affected by the Golden Spin: while assisting Lucy, Joseph leaves behind his sandal with his name engraved upon it. A sandalmaker is inspired when finding it, and influences his daughter to name her son Josefumi Kujo. This non-blood connection creates another metaphysical avenue for the Joestar Golden Spirit to be inherited (symbolized by Josefumi's joestar birthmark despite having no obvious bloodline connection), and another branch of influence for the Golden Spin. 8. Both Yoshikage and Joesefumi develop stands that incorporate the power of the spin. 9. The rest of Jojolion carries out as the Golden Spin attempting to manipulate events in a way to take down Wonder of U and the curse, and the calamity energy trying to manipulate events to preserve itself. Josefumi is key to the Golden Spin's efforts, since his ennui and social position make him a transient agent that opens up many opportunities for the Golden Spin to strike. As the Golden Spin has been divided up among the Joestar bloodline/spirit, unifying Josefumi and Yoshikage Kira, who both utilize the spin in their stands, gives their combined stand enough Spin-juice to reproduce the Golden Spin in the material world. 10. The Golden Spin achieves it's initial purpose when it successfully causes the deaths of both Tooru (after the curse has been transferred into him) and Wonder of U. This seemingly breaks Higashikata curse and the Calamity Energy's hold over the Higashikata family. (Though as we've seen in the past, even if you transfer the curse out of the family, it shows up in subsequent generations. This is the only real inconsistency I can see).
This is why YT exists The idea that anyone on earth can put through their opinion or theory on something and reach a much broader audience than they could ever hope for, this was an amazing video and i can't even imagine how long it took to write all of this out wow As time went on i realised that one of the main reasons i love this series and consequentially HATE the Araki Forgot meme or rather the meme culture that has formed around Jojo as a whole is that..it completely ignores what Araki or really any storyteller's primary intention should be...and that is emotional resonance. What good is a story that has absolutely 0 plot holes or inconsistencies and perfect 100% detailed explanations? It is hollow, a mere attempt at creating a flawless story when no such thing can exist. The beauty of stories is in their way to resonate with us and make us FEEL things like i mean really WHO gives a shit about HOW it happens? It's always about WHAT happens and what emotions it evokes from you. We need to stop trying to see objectivity and describing everything as if we're merely external observers or critics, did it make you emotional? Then it had the desired impact. That is what matters the most.
Great video man this is really interesting. Part 8 is my favorite part so I always love to see more stuff about it and see it talked about more. Araki made the best parts back to back with 7 and 8 fr
Your video is really good, it's change my perception of the end and the story. Your theory is incredible, probably my favorite about Jojolion ! I will wait your futures videos like this one ! God bless you and your work :)
Thank you, that's all really kind! I had hoped to have a second video out by now, but life's been a bit busy/stressful. My next video will be the start of a series I want to do where I talk about how JoJo evolves and iterates on itself between parts. I'm hoping I can make that one as engaging as this one! And have a few of the elements be a bit cleaner. I also plan on doing stuff other than JoJo, but with the first 12 episodes of Stone Ocean just out it's where my mood is.
What a great video! It really looks at the narrative of the part from a whole new perspective and explains story elements better, connecting them in better and clearer way. This was very much needed since personally I and the community agree that the story had a lot of plot holes and inconsistencies, but when everything is viewed from the context of Jonny's sacrifice, the story becomes much more cohesive. That isn't to say the story was perfect but at least it makes us appreciate Araki as a writer the way he always brings everything full circle. Again, great video man would LOVE to see your takes on other topics in Jojo's
Stardust Crusarders final twist: Jotaro's stand can stop time too JoJolion's final twist: "Before explaining how Josuke's stand works, let's talk a bit about Jesus of Nazareth's role in the post Made In Heaven's universe"
I still don't understand JoJolion that well, but thank you for contributing towards whatever understanding I do have. I'm looking forward to see what else you make
Beautiful, I really like his idea. It ties a lot of themes together and I actually got chills at some parts (when Johnny was sacrificing himself and talking about the connections between people). Also the video was really well made and it must have taken a while to edit. I cant believe the video took so long to find me, but I guess good fortune takes it sweet time lmao.
Thank you so much! Honestly, the video has really been blowing up this last week or so. I hope to get a lot more subs, but I'm really excited by how much traffic this is getting right now. I'm working on another video right now, the beginning of a series on JoJo. I do plan on doing videos on other series as well, but JoJo is where my brain is at right now! Between holidays and regular work some stuff has gotten in the way, but I should have plenty of time to work on it the next few days.
A thing that confused me..the first time I heard of part 8 Josuke I always thought it was a continuation of Part 4 Josuke’s Life deciding to become a Sailor and lose Crazy Diamond but Gain a new stand “Soft & Wet” but the reason I thought of that was because I never knew of Steel Ball Run or the fact it was all in a different universe.
Honestly this was how I saw the end of the part and I feel that people should give Part 8 a reread. This is because many got a skewed sense of time and events as it came out monthly. Also I was surprised when you said the Lokakaka, rock disease, and rock humans origin was unclear. As one of the big things explained in their birth and the final part of part 8 was that they came from negative flow. They were a counterbalance that came against humans and other things in the world. Some came from "cursed" lands and would gravitate towards blessed lands. It was also said that blessings and curses are interchangable in a way. This is seen in how each flows fruit acted. Where the original negative flow Lokakaka would exchange one part of a persons body for another one of their body parts. And then the new positve flow Lokakaka that grew from a tree at a blessed land, the location of the Wall Eyes aka The Earth Blessed By The Saint Johnny, and from Josefumis ability, traded between people like how Johnny traded the Rock Disease over to himself and took on anothers negative flow. In a way he redirected it similar to how Love Train, a stand ability from a holy corpse, redirected fortune. But in part 8 this was Soft and Wet going from absorption to plundering and its Go Beyond Ability. It all culminated in a being born from the Land through positve flow faced a being born from Negative flow. So with Part 7 and 8 in mind, we have been introduced to the positive and negative flow along with the ideas of blessed and even "cursed" lands with the Devils Palm, Morioh, and New Guinea(where the Lokakaka orignated). Even the different beings from them like Rock People, Humans born from an exchange and a saints land, and the humans who would go on to become a saint. This is why part 9 is called Jojo Lands, as it will involve other lands, saints, rock people, and possibly another person born from a holy land. I'm really looking forward to it. And I look forward to seeing who the next jojo will be, and seeing a culmination of part 7 and 8.
This theory really tied the whole part together and elevated it above what it originally was in my eyes. I need to read it again with this idea in mind.
I definitely could have been more explicit about that! My general point was that the spin itself could pass through the calamities but all the things it was attached to could not. So the spin had to become finer and finer, leaving behind more of it's original form, until it was detached enough from it's origin to attack the calamity. For example, during the Radio GaGa incident the calamities rebuffed Lucy's investigation, sending Joseph and Lucy away, but the spin made it closer anyway through coincidence: the geta that gets left behind. That's why the end point of all this is Go Beyond. Go Beyond is the spin once it has left behind all form and become an infinitely thin spinning line. Of course even this version still has to be used as a stand power by Josuke. Though, in this interpretation, the reason Josuke was born was to shoot that spin in the first place. Anyway, it is just my interpretation after all!
This is one of the best interpretations of jojolion i've seen, i have my own problems with the execution of the last arc in jojolion but i think it's a story that deserves to be look at beyond the symple "bad or good" wich is kinda hard to do with a story you've been reading over several years, some details just get lost in your mind, so seeing a thematic breakdown like this is really nice.
God please make more videos on jojo, it's so refreshing to hear opinions on jojolion that arent just the usual aeonstar circlejerk or Tooru hate. 10/10 video
Just finished reading JoJolion and then immediately watched this video. Fantastic editing and explanation. I just subscribed and I'm super excited to see what you do next :)
I felt so-so about the last arc and ending of Jojolion, but this video has gotten me to actually appreciate it in a way I couldn't before. Good luck and happy video making in future videos!
I can't remember the last time I saw a video this long without turning my attention elsewhere. I thought that the end of jojolion was weird and anticlimatic, but I also thought I was missing the point of it. Your video helped me completely shift my perspective on Part 8, Part 7, and on Araki's skills. This is a very deep and intertwined story that is masterfully written, as is this video. Thank you.
Revisiting this and still utterly fascinated at the meaning and complexity of this interpretation. Part 8 for me has truly stood the test of time for being my second favourite part due to having so many elements that just work so greatly together. Though I still prefer Steel Ball Run, I'd call part 8 Araki's peak as an artist and author. To think just now we've learned our first piece of news of part 9, I'm excited to see what the next adventure has in store.
This is one of my favorite videos ever made, & even if Araki didn't intend this (I geniunely think he did), this is now canon in my head. It really shows the importance of the Joestar heritage & what it truly means to become a Saint. I love Gappy & I really hope we see him again at some point in the future.
I was hooked the second you explained Act IV shooting Johnny was just its function as trying to kill its original target of the disease. Wonderful analysis. JoJoLion will have mysteries that will continue to be unearthed for years I expect. The strangest JoJo part for sure, but also the deepest.
Thank you for this! I had an even harder time understanding this part than the previous ones, but that's part of the fun of this series, theorizing and looking up interpretations that help you get a better handle on the plot
Thank you that means a lot! My voice in particular I worried would be a breaking point for people. Not that I think I sound particularly bad, just one's own voice is hard to judge, you know? I had a good time making it, so I'm glad you enjoyed it! More coming soon! (when I can pry myself away from work)
What a fantastic project, for a first, this is probably the best piece of Jojolion content I've seen on this website. Keep at it, you've made something incredible 💯
It was the flow of good fortune that brought me to this video. I was just thinking about Jojolion and what it meant overall when your video just "by coincidence" came across my feed.
I always thought that Johnny shot Gregor to transfer the rock curse from his son to himself. So no one else would suffer such a fate. It really shows that his character changed But I could see that tusk act 4, or rather it's infinite spin, to attack the source of the flow Really interesting theory
I just recently finished jojolion after watching or reading all of the previous parts. You have some great points here that did not occur to me reading everything one after another. It really added to my enjoyment of the series. Thanks for the amazing video!
A wonderful, wonderful analysis!! In my opinion, araki heavily uses Christian themes in parts 6-8, not just the obvious stuff. The talk of “gravity” and “misfortune” is closely related to Grace theology. Your description of “Tusk’s good fortune clinging on the edge of calamity” is close to what many Christian theologians have said about the “fallen” and sinful state of the world. While the Devil rules most material things (like the calamity and abusive relationships of the family), God’s Grace also constantly works against it.
25:03 is genuinely when I started believing this theory, I think personally there is no reason for Joseph's stand to come out of the Joestar birthmark like Josuke's, Johnny's didn't so why did his? It feels like such a small thing to not add in but there it is, drawn on the page, it really feels like that is saying that something from Johnny was passed down the family from Joseph to Holy to Kira/Josefumi/Josuke. I actually see no other reason why the stand would come out the birthmark it really feels like a hammer has hit a nail on the head.
Part 8 draws many parallels from its previous volumes, and you could say that when it comes to the Rokakaka, the Stone Disease, and Rock Humans, they all draw on the events of parts 1,2, and 4, respectively. The Rokakaka Fruit (Part 8) and the Corpse of Jesus (Part 7) are much like the Mask and the Stone from parts 1 and 2; while the ghouls created by Dio and his Vampires and the Sickness Josuke suffered in Part 4 resemble the effects of the Fruit. A human wears a mask -> an Equivalent Exchange happens, -> the body is affected. Human eats Fruit -> Equivalent Exchange happens ->, an effect on their body. The Rock Humans, in this case, would resemble the Pillar Men, and their desire to obtain the Rokakaka Fruit can also be interpreted as a similar desire of Kars (The Ultimate Life Form), Diavolo (The Erasing and Control Over Time), and Dio/Pucci's goal (Obtaining Heaven).
Thanks! JoJolion is brilliant, and JoJo just continues to iterate on itself with each part, always finding interesting ways to develop. I'd love to do a video on that at some point: how JoJo builds on its past.
In a post-Part-9 world, I've come back to this video. The question that's posed now is- What is balancing out all of the good fortune that the Lava rock brings? Where is the bad fortune? OH AND WHERE IS THIS CHANNEL, I NEED YOU BACK !!
This video resolved all of my issues with part 7 & 8. Now I can finally see them as one big story.I used to think Jojo lost some of it's soul in this part but I am happy that I was wrong. Johnny might've become my favourite character ever now. I will look forward to your videos
gyro in his final moments realized something revolutionary about the spin, thats why he poses the "shortest path was a detour" comment as a lesson to johnny. he realized that no matter what, the infinite spin will reach its target, even if it has to take the longest detour possible. gyro was truly a master of the spin, and an amazing coach to johnny. thank you, gyro...
I love this story.
_The shortest path was a detour_ applies to all of JoJo 🔥
Heh, "revolutionary".
"Soft and Wet, a stand made of dreams..."
So it's the same type of Stand as Death 13.
Lol, yeah, exactly, I'm glad you followed. XD
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@Roger Loe *Laliho intensifies*
LMFAOOOO
*scared giorno noises*
Something I just realized, Tooru thought all that existed were dreams and memories, and he was beaten by Josuke, the man without memories and Kato, the woman without that bypassed WoU by changing her goal/dream.
So, what you’re saying is Tusk’s infinite energy’s shortest path to ending the Calamity was a 100-year detour? Where have I heard something like that before?
Thank you, Gyro
What a long and roundabout path...
goosebumps
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This is why I love Jojo fans. You guys make everything so much better
@@letskissnow987 ba dum tsh
I love the irony of the final moments of Tooru, when he needs someone to approach him so that he can activate the Locacaca fruit's Equivalent Exchange. There's a beautiful karma there, that his seeming salvation would be just a short distance away, yet he's unable to reach it as all of the negative karma he has built up over his life comes back to haunt him in a fashion not so different to what his stand has been doing to others.
Also not to mention that Tooru ends up on the short end of a Locacaca's equivalent exchange, the very thing he's been peddling. Then he exchanges with the Higashikata family curse which is a disease that turns someone to stone, and Tooru is a Rock Human. It's a rather fitting demise.
I appreciate the role Josuke plays in Tooru'a defeat as Josuke was indirectly created by Tooru, and is a result of his sins.
Araki loves dooming his villains to the thing they're been exploiting all life long. Diavolo dodges fate when it's convenient, and gets deleted off of fate entirely right when he WAS fated to kill giorno and win in the next 10 seconds, that's the most direct example, but most of the main villains have something like this deep down. Kira has a lot of trouble because his relationship with "living a quiet life" was very complicated. He could have lived a quiet life after he changed appearance, but he didn't.
This is the "Jonathan got reincarnated as Star Platinum" theory on a whole nother level
coming from my mind
Kira is basically Jotaro too and since his Killer Queen is a part of the stand that is Tusk redefined. Man they really are the same theory. Except this one is much better
@@ivanl.8054 Also, there is a theory that the flashback man is a reference to Johnny (they have the same hair color), and another that he is a representation/alternative form of Soft & Wet in the same way Akefu Satoru represents Wonder of U.
I don't believe so much in these theories individually, but together with this one they can really make sense.
@@ImadIbnArezki LMAAAO
@@ImadIbnArezki you read my mind
it's so wild to think how jojo started out as a fairly straightforward story of generational struggles between good and evil and slowly morphed into something so dense and esoteric. it's really beautiful and i don't think we would have gotten this far if araki didn't push the envelope of what a battle manga could be
In my opinion one of the most incredible pieces of fiction out there
It's sad people often overlook or dismiss the more out there and deep concepts explored in JoJo as just being weird or random. Most of the fandom focuses on the goofiness or fighting and brand jojo as shallow.
@@boianko I think it's a testament to how good of a writer Araki is. You can focus on the deep concepts he is talking about or you can just enjoy the goofy fights and interactions between stands and allow the deep stuff to go over your head.
You can think about the existential questions being asked, or you can ignore all that and take part in the silly but enjoyable fantasy. You can do either, or both and enjoy it either way. It's not easy to do that, usually it's one or the other.
Nigga took out his thesaurus
Jojo was JUST Jojo for the first 2 arcs, but then as SOON as the Jojos lost the last name Jostar is when it earned the "Bizzare Adventure" title
This video made me realize that a lot of people (me too) are defining the ending as bad but very few are actually trying to understand why things might have happened. The initial monologue of jojolion talks about forces of good and evil but that gets always overshadowed by the "breaking a curse".
I still think that the higashikatas had too much of a minor role in that and I expect jobin and tsurugi's development to be concluded in the next part, but that doesn't mean that the ending is horrible or that the whole part is horrible.
To be sure! I think you hit the nail on the head, that theres more to talk about than a simple binary of "either good or bad".
Mind you, I don't want people to get the impression that I think JoJolion or its ending are flawless. People were disappointed in the ending for a reason, and it certainly came sooner and did different things than what I myself imagined. In the context of being a monthly Shonen Fight manga the ending seems abrupt and oddly paced, and in an ending those are flaws that can seriously ruin someone's experience. If someone is upset by that I fully see why, and I wouldnt try to argue that they should feel otherwise.
But "flawless" isnt a word I'd use to describe JoJo in general and it isnt what I look for in this series. JoJo is great precisely BECAUSE it pushes the envelope and does the unexpected. Naturally that means that it sometimes falls a little flat in some regards, but what it achieves due to those risks is way more interesting to me than a lot of other stories that may have less flaws.
I doubt that everything I said in the video, how I arranged it, was Araki's intention. But the themes that I drew on, the enduring of dreams and the fulfillment of hope in ways the characters could have never envisioned due to their lasting bonds, I think that stuff IS there, and I loved teasing it out and analyzing those connections. In that respect the ending is brilliant. Recognizing the good does not preclude the bad. and vice versa. For me it lands in a place that completely works, but that's my own experience. =D
@@OtherMeanings don’t worry, Death of the Author allows you to draw any coherent and consistent understanding of the media that you desire.
@@noneofyourbusiness4133 I wouldn't want to apply Death of the Author when said author is an immortal vampire
Every part of jojo i read the first time through, usually bored or confused me. The endings often felt sudden and bereft of meaning.
It's usual with hindsight, knowledge of the story as a whole and narrative devices (that araki introduced along the way) that the second read made sense and resonated with me.
All subsequent reads only improved and added upon this resonance as nuance appeared from chains of meaning and intersecting themes.
This video showed me one out of the likely many themes that araki hid within his latest work.
@@Blasterfreund I agree, but no other part leaves entire motivations, entire development arcs to fall flat. Like saving holly. Gappy might've been his own person, but he owed her. Her exclusion in the ending is the one thing that stuck in my crawl. I don't mind unanswered questions or ambiguity, but she became a third of what an entire 10 year story was building to resolve to. People critique tooru, and while his inclusion earlier would've been great, I actually did like the character. I still think the criticism is valid as Jobin and his mother though we're the best choice for an antagonistic force, she could've still saved Tsurugi and subverted expectations. For a lot of us, this is something we've read for years and generally loved a lot in a lot of ways, so yes, good or bad is a very hard line to draw when describing something this massive and this newly concluded. However, like many people have said, there are valid criticisms not nearly as prevalent in any other part than part 8. To me this is saddening because of how much potential it had, conceptually, it has the most potential in the series. To your point, the one part I really had trouble liking as much as the rest of the series is part 5, and that has changed, so maybe I will change my views with part 8 on a second complete read.
The idea of a single attack that slowly perseveres for over a 100 years is an incredible Interpretation that redefined my whole look on this part (one i already loved but now have to re read because of you :D). The fact that everything stems from this concept of flow.
the flow of calamity and the flow of good fortune are intertwined in a battle that ended with Gappy, a man born of the land and awoken by the sea which ties into him being a miracle made by good fortune.
If you think about it, Wonder of U himself references this a lot. He always talks about the "flow of Calamity". Why wouldn't there be different "flows"?
Yeah, now this is the best video about Jojolion. This video is truly magnificent and well done, thank you for this video.
Thank you so much for the praise! I absolutely loved making this video. JoJo just has so much to talk about and dig into, and JoJolion was fascinating to follow. I only got on board the past couple years, so I'm really excited to read JoJolands from the beginning!
Hmm……..Essays……
@@OtherMeanings I also see this: infinite spin=miracles and blessings,calamity=sin and destruction,neither johnny or funny were the best of people but johnny had the character to be redeemed or reflect on his actions while funny saw it as a means to an end plus they're justified this separates them.Funny using doppelgangers before getting the corspe parts beforehand was like avoiding personal calamities by shielding himself with another valentine.
I like your theory because it's a more concrete version of jonathan's legacy in the original universe. In part 1, jonathan's actions create a legacy which continues through the bloodline. The joestar family wasn't necessarily on the side of righteousness from the beginning, but it starts being there after jonathan, and we know this because we see the actions of every single one of his descendants.
Here we would have the same result but linked through the infinite rotation, in a generational effort to defeat the power of calamity and break the curse.
"Wonder of U targeting Lucy caused WW2"
if true that's hilarious
I know this comment is about 2 years old, but I don't think it triggered WW2, but instead, triggered Pearl Harbor, which casued the U.S. to enter the war in December of 1941. U.S. Citizens weren't allowed to enter Japan again until the Occupation Period starting in 1945. The ironic part about all of this was that Lucy Steel died of her lung disease in 1944, one year before she could've made another attempt at going back to Japan.
Dude. I could not, for the longest time, understand that scene between George and Johnny Joestar and how Autumn Leaves crushed him and no one would explain it to me. If nothing else, thank you for that explanation.
"Joseph's grandson, Yoshikage Kira"
Good luck explaining the family tree to people that haven't read part 8
The idea of the Spin’s connection to Gravity, and Gravity’s connection to Calamity and the logic of the universe made me think about something. Rai points out that Jōsuke’s bubbles aren’t just spinning, but they’re specifically spinning strings. What if Go Beyond can transcend the logic of the universe because it’s spinning Strings, like from String Theory? It can transcend the logic of the universe because it is directly interacting with and changing that logic by manipulating the fundamental building blocks of reality. Jōsuke is using the Spin to essentially rewrite reality on a small scale.
A year late (since Part 8 in color just finished) but I think it's both a reference to String Theory (outer dimensional properties) and Virtual Particles (seemingly non-existent emergent properties/disturbances).
Go Beyond and its infinite thinness, constant spin generation, and explosive property basically acts as a carrier for a logic that transcends the logic of the material universe. I don't think it's really a matter of 'rewriting the universe' so much as it's activating no-clipping and busting through the barriers of things like the energies of calamity, purely through physics.
I came to Jojo fairly late but I'm astonished at how parallel my personal writing sensibilities are compared to Araki's, he seems to believe on some level that there is a beauty and divinity behind physics, that ultimately serves as a platonic ideal for life.
the rock humans figure out the Rokakaka had a branch taken from under them because they weight the whole plant before and after every deal. Josefumi and Kira took the branch after one of the deals and when the rock humans weighted the plant it was heavier instead of ligther (because they just pluck a fruit for one of their clients). Cleaver explanation from Araki imo
plus the visual seems to suggest that the swapped branches wilt differently as well, likely due to the different biology, which iirc is what tipped them off that there's something wrong in the first place as confirmed by the weights
but how did they find them after that ?
@@theflashgordon193 can't recall, I do remember it had something to do with Kira being the ship's doctor but that's all
@@theflashgordon193 They tracked down every single sick/disabled person in Morioh since only those type of people had knowledge of the Loca and they narrowed it down to Holly Kira
Keep that in mind there was time skip between Josefumi and Kira stealing the branches and the Earthquake that swallowed them both
@@SoulBro12 ok thank for the explanation
Now, despite how abruptly it felt like the part ended, and the fact that that is still easily seen as a negative, I agree with this. This theory is likely as close as we'll get to hitting the nail on the head with Araki's intentions. At least, I feel like it's so. And the themes perfectly match with the spirit of JoJo s a whole, still tying it up as a generational story that carries the hopes, dreams, and intentions of the first generation down through the line.
The video was nothing short of beautiful, and really makes me see a lot of JoJolion in a different light. I think it makes me appreciate the part as a whole a lot more, and personally might make it my favourite part, whereas Steel Ball Run was beforehand.
Thank you for the comment! It genuinely makes me happy to hear people considering JoJolion in a different way after watching the video. It's a story that I enjoyed a lot and it's cool to be able to share that enjoyment with others.
I listen back to this video every few months
This is a really cool interpretation of Jojolions story, great video, especially for your first on the channel. It's a really interesting take on the relationship between the flow of calamity and the flow of the Spins good fortune. Your theory of it gradually shedding physical form across the years until it can manifest in Go Beyond is awesome.
Whether these were Araki's intentions or not, it's great that theories like this can be drawn from the story and make sense. I think it's a result of Araki leaning more and more into a thematic style of storytelling with Part 8, where the themes of the story have a much greater influence on events than in most other stories I've ever experienced. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but it's a really unique style of storytelling that I found myself enjoying a lot whole reading Jojolion.
Thanks for the compliments! Yeah, I, for sure, don't think Araki intended everything in my interpretation. I think it's likely a mix of things he intended, themes created in the process of storytelling, and my own little bits of head canon to stitch the whole thing together. But like you say, it's great that we can have these interpretations and discussions about JoJolion.
JoJolion's storytelling is so interesting. Stands have only gotten stranger and more representative of a character's themes and motivations, which I think makes the story feel increasingly surreal. It's part of why I don't get so hung up on smaller plot inconsistencies. I don't think JoJo's main storytelling aim, as it has gone on, is really at the plot level. I think Araki is trying to portray certain emotions, dynamics, and conflicting philosophies, visually on the page, in a way that gives the reader a sense of those things. It's so cool to read and look at.
@@OtherMeanings No problem, it's always great to see people discussing Jojo in ways that go beyond "Haha this series is so wacky and memey". It's got so much more going on that that, especially with the later parts.
I'm with you on being able to overlook smaller plot inconsistencies. This part was written over the course of more than a decade. I would not expect any human being, regardless of age or skill, to be able to avoid plot inconsistencies in a story they've been telling for that long. And honestly I think some of 'inconsistencies' people attribute to Jojolion are a little weird (I.e. I don't think Bling Baby is meant to be any more significant than simply a demonstration of the good fortune of the area that resulted from Johnny's actions).
The story is about miracles vs calamities, the significance of dreams and memories on a persons life, and the flow in which the characters in the story find themselves caught in (I really enjoy flow as a new way of describing the concept of Fate that was set up in the orignal universe). And as long as these are handled in interesting and unique ways, which I believe they are, I'm 100% down for it. I'd be lying if I said Part 8 ended how I expected it to, but I fully expect Part 9 to continue this thematic arc, since Araki seems to be going out of his way to make the Steel Ball Run universe into an interconnected story.
I love how civilised and intelligent conversation about part 8 are, while whenever I read discussions over part 4 for example I feel like the community is absolutely retarded
You just made me appreciate Jojolion even more than I already do, amazing theory. It’s a small thing, but I love how you used actual character quotes to title each of the sections. In a sense, the quotes came together to form a little “tldr” of the entire theory, which added to its really well “put-together” feel.
And I agree that the minor plot inconsistencies don’t hamper the story; Jojolion is probably the most “themes over plot” story of all the parts, and it is these wide interpretations of the story that add to its sense of ethereality that break away from a “physical and single plot”, which the premise is backhanded on. Just like the infinite rotation sheds it’s physical form, I think that is the whole point. Josuke is literally likened as a Christlike figure after all.
This is the best interpretation of anything JoJo I've ever seen.
It summarises and explains all the most important plot elements in the new universe in a unified theory, that doesn't speculate on things the author obviously couldn't have planned or kept in mind, but instead rests on the themes that are carried over throughout the entirety of the series. While not as carefully detailed as in this video, the one broad stroke connecting the beginning and end of the story together seems like something that definitely also lived in Araki's mind. Yes, Araki likely comes up with many things on the spot, as evidenced by minor retconning of design elements and the dropping of secondary storylines. However, this impulsive creation IS born from a focus on a single idea, coming together in the strangest and most fun ways Araki can think of.
You've perfectly put into words all the things I love about JoJo that run deeper than the visuals, characters and individual story arcs: The theme of 'things being connected', and the inspiring and comforting idea that a sacred and special fate will follow you everywhere as long as your human will is as strong as possible.
This video is utterly fantastic. I love it when people give literary and thematic analysis to JoJo parts, and this video is truly one of the best at it. This interpretation has solidified JoJolion as one of my absolute favorite works of fiction. You should feel proud, as this video is an accomplishment on its own.
this video is amazing and analyses Jojolion in such a satisfying way. Jojolion is definitely an amazing part but so many ideas are so abstract that it made trying to understand it kinda difficult (especially when you had to wait months between chapters). the idea that johnny's legacy (tusk act 4) persists just like how jonathan's spirit persists to give every future joestar powers to defeat evils makes me think araki is on another level
So, Wonder of U influenced the events of the world to cause WWII to keep Lucy and a Joestar out of Japan. Goddamn
This was an awesome video presentation! I can’t believe it was 45 minutes, I was very captivated the whole time. Thank you!
Thanks for watching it! It was fun to make, so I'm glad people find it fun to watch!
8:05 I was just thinking about how Wonder of U is the opposite to Love Train (particularly how Araki uses the Crazy Train scene with Tooru to express it) and then today this video is recommended to me. It’s almost like it was all part of a flow…
I really like this theory, and I like how it explains some of the parts of part 8 I had a hard time swallowing. I always found rina's initial curse to be confusing, and I think it was probably deliberately so, but the Calamity is the only real way it can be explained, I believe. Hopefully this will be elaborated and at least the parallels between the good fortune and calamity will be made more canonical in Jojolands. After all, Araki is no stranger to explaining the most unlikely events with fate. Frankly this video has given me a lot more appreciation for the themes of Part 8, and gotten me more excited for how Part 9 continues it.
I already loved Jojolion alot, but this breakdown made the part even better, the fact that this is your 1st video is beyond me, this video is perfect. Btw im the 100th subscription
Thank you so much! Funny enough I had just checked my subscriptions 10 minutes ago, and then I got thos notification. Thanks for getting me to a 100!
So glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for subscribing! Working on another JoJo video right now =D
@@OtherMeanings All love ❤️
Excited for new videos
So the entirety of Jojolion is a metaphysical battle between the Infinite Rotation of Good Luck and the Evil of Calamity's bad luck? And by extension, kindness and helping others leads to more good luck while selfishness and cruelty leads to bad luck.
I like how this whole system is reflective of Araki's own beliefs in justice and good. The concepts are literal metaphysical rules of his stories reality.
I've never see Jojolion like that before, you change my way of seeing part 8, thank you so much for this video it's amazing.
A fantastic reading. I remember the moment I saw WoU in that panel mimicking Love Train I was certain there was way more planning involved in JoJolion than just random mysteries tied together with a rather simple plot. Hopefully this vid takes off.
I don't know why I never realizes that Joseph asking Jesus if they would meet again and Jesus responding with if it is round it will rotate is essentially confirming that Johnny's relationship with the corpse parts was preordained
I need more, this is an amazing perspective from the usual that I get from the jojo community. The rock humans noticed that the rokakaka plant weighed more than it usually was and it eventually withered few months after.
Thanks, I'm glad you like it! I'm working on another JoJo video right now, actually. I'm trying to track the evolution of the different "tropes" and elements that JoJo uses. You know: what is a Jobro? How does the way that fights are shown change and improve? What kind of arcs tend to be present in most parts? That kind of thing. (I hope that makes sense, my explanations are best when they're more long winded, lol) With all it's unique elements, and such different settings and stories for the arcs, JoJo is almost a genre unto itself, particularly in the later parts, and I really want to pick apart what that means.
I'm planning on doing stuff other than JoJo as well, but I have a LOT more to say about JoJo and that next video is the start of a series on it.
@@OtherMeanings looking forward to it. One video idea I’ve had is how the SBR universe shows fate in motion and how it works due to the original timeline.
@@OtherMeanings yes please, that would be really interesting .
Amazing video, these connections are amazing but it makes me think of what jojolion could have been. Introducing toru earlier, cutting some of the mysteries that go nowhere, fleshing out go beyond like you have here. “Something that doesn’t exist… that does exist” made absolutely no sense to me, but the idea that the soft and wet bubbles are carrying the influence of a long dead saint’s attack is awesome. Josuke tapped into a power not by regaining his memories or memories of tusk 4, but by carrying on a dream that’s been manifesting itself meagerly through the century
Honestly hope anime does that.
Introduce Tooru as a fuck boi flirting with Yasuho from the start.
Show Johnny shooting the shot from behind Josuke for the final Go Beyond.
@@vj7248Dude, johnny behind josuke would be so badass, like he doesnt notice or anything, great idea
This video did help me feel a bit better about the direction the story took and the very vague and mysterious language used to describe the powers and actions through 8, especially towards the ending. The theory is pretty great. Also the stolen branch thing involves the two different grafted plants wilting in visibly different ways once they were out of season, leading to the smugglers’ suspicion
What started as a detective-style mystery unfolded in a way only Araki can manage and it’s great!. Gappy’s backstory hit me so hard 😭 I’ll admit the ending left me wanting a little more but it was a fun rollercoaster and kinda weird seeing it end after all these years. SBR will always hold a special place in my heart and this was a fantastic follow up for it. Great video! 💯
A pretty genuinely fantastic interpretation of the story and the continuity between part 7 and 8, damn. The ending took a while for me to really come to terms with but this is such a fascinating interpretation of the story as a whole that it makes me want to re-read the whole part with it in mind, great video!
I keep rewatching this because it's so well done. Can't wait for future jojo related stuff (especially stone ocean since people don't discuss and analyse it as much as they should) but I'm also open for different types of videos.
Oh boy this is some quality. It perfectly fits the wider themes of JoJo. From Zeppeli's sacrifice to the Higashikata it always is that the selfless desire to help another will always triumph over selfish self-interest. I was shocked to see how small your channel was until I saw this was your first video. Happily subscribed and waiting for more.
I'm in tears, this is absolutely beautiful and I have never expected we will get to this state from part 3
This video made JoJo and especially JoJolion better for me than I even anticipated. Seeing all the themes Araki ever worked on and expanded upon in his story come into play and converge is truly insane. Topics of Fate, Gravity, Fortune, Calamity and Flow seamleassly and unnoticeably intertwining for this grand finale was definitely a roller-coaster of a ride. This is why part 8 is among my favorite parts. Thanks for this phenomenal video, Luis.
This is an amazing video, and really helped me to appreciate Jojolion and even Steel Ball Run a lot more. I never would've put together that Wonder of U's ability is a mirror of the Saint Corpse's!
Very interesting video! I personally feel that when reading Jojolion, there was more to the story than what was being let on, and more themes and concepts that went over a lot of people’s heads (myself included). Keep up the good work!
Something cool you don't bring up is that the way that the Flow of Calamity and the Flow of good fortune work, also has a lot of obscure christian symbolism to it. I learned this from the TV Tropes page; but that sun/snake symbol on Tooru's Jacket is the symbol of the Demiurge. The Demiurge is extremely complicated because there are several interpretations of him, but in general, the Demiurge is a fixture of Gnosticism. Gnosticism was an early splinter of Judeism and Christianity based around the idea that there was a true, benevolent god of the spiritual, and a near-equally powerful god of the material, called the Demiurge.
I'm not a theologist and most of my knowledge of Gnosticism comes from the wikipedia page, but across basically all versions, the Demiurge is a force of evil, created either as a byproduct of the creation of a benevolent God, or as a mistake that the benevolent god made, that it was unable to rectify. Both versions of that creation fit Wonder of U perfectly in the context of this theory. Johnny made the mistake of using the "benevolent" power of the Holy Corpse, and his mistake created a near-equal malevolent force, Wonder of U.
The Demiurge is believed to have created the living world as a way of weakening its creator. Splitting its spiritual power amongst the living beings of the world so that its power would be unable to reforge. The Gnostics believed that by realizing the true nature of the soul, realizing the true nature of the Demiurge's illusions, and by finding ways of defeating its servants, they could return their souls to the true God and ultimately overcome the Demiurge.
Go Beyond is the culimation of Wonder of U's accidental creator, Tusk's, full potential. It is attained after Josuke and his allies defeat Tooru's servants, see through the illusary nature of WoU, and Josuke realizes the true nature of his Stand, and by extension his Soul.
Let me repeat, I have no fucking clue what I'm talking about here, and I'm only pointing out surface level connections that I might be misreading. Still if I'm at least a little correct it's a very interesting lense to see the battle between Tusk and WoU through.
It’s still a very fitting theory overall as themes of Christianity came in SBR before Jojolion meaning that this could very well be intentional. Similarly, “lion” of the Jojolion in greek means herald of good fortune apparently and ties into the videos topic of Josuke being the inheritor of the Spin/Tusk A4 due to Johnny’s sacrifice. This video just blew my mind and solidified the later half of JJBA as a fucking masterpiece.
However many points you hit were intentional by Araki or even correct in the end, I think the fact that this theory exists goes to say a lot about the ingenius of JoJolion and the series in general. So many incredible points have been established in the story that allow for such a creative and rich interpretation. I loved this video, keep it up!
Not gonna lie coming out finishing Jojolion it was one of the less good parts in my opinion, but this video changed my perspective in a way I didn’t think of. The idea of Tusks attack being the reason Wonder of U going down is amazing.
It really does play into an attack that cannot be stopped no matter what. In a more abstract way than usual.
Amazing, I've learned way more from this video than other videos talking about Jojolion. Your interpretation fits way better than what I had in mind after finishing the manga. Great job!
One thing I'd like to disagree on is that (if I understood correctly) you're implying that Johnny tried to redirect the curse off of his son to someone else, but it accidentally got him, or it got him due to calamity, and while that is completely logical, in my interpretation, after seeing how much pain it causes to have someone else bear the burden of your loved one (from his wife to his child), I think he decided to break the cycle. Johnny was always a very morally grey character, but I think in the end he went out with a purpusely selfless move, redirecting the disease onto himself and then finishing mimself off, so that nobody else has to bear the weight but him. Your theory makes more sense, but I like the idea that Johnny sacrifices himself instead of letting someone else die to save him, just like his best friend did so many years ago. Gyro made Johnny into a good person, and I'd like to imagine that he realised he has no right to take someone's life to save his son's.
This changes so much thematically for this part it's insane.
It makes the drops in plot points, the sudden shifts and drop in characters, the development and the progression of the story so much more sense.
Tusk act 4 was trying to find all the pieces needed to beat calamity.
It would suddenly change to characters for an opening, a piece to puzzle to win, leave them just as quick when there was no means, no way to beat the wonders of U with it.
Then once everything was there, once everything seemed in place. It was time to chase the wonders of U, trigger the calamities, the rock people, the calamities, the insanity that followed.
All to eventually have it give tusk the power to defeat it, by becoming a calamity through the bubbles and giving it the power to transcend.
It also means that Love train is a duo stand like killer queen with shear heart attack or king crimson and epithet.
A stand created in opposite to love trains fortune, representing misfortune.
So the reason why wonders of U exists and activated on Johnny, was that he was chasing the corpses power and then tried to destroy "misfortune". Wonders of U's existence, which probably why it's trigger is "being chased" and killed him.
You should note that Act 4 actually did succeed in destroying calamity, at least in his family line. The Higashikata curse never affected any of Johnny and Rina's descendants after Johnn'ys death, so Tusk Act 4's attack did have an immediate result. I like how this theory adds to that though that Tusk Act 4 not only destroyed the curse for Johnny's line but sent "ripples" of coincidences that would lead to destruction of adjacedent forces of calamity as well, Tooru's Wonder of U and the curse on the other side of the family tree.
This video is so good and exactly what Jojolion needs for more people to appreciate it as one of the best parts
I would normally claim something like this was a beautiful fan theory to make canon…
But having read all of Araki’s work and how he goes about writing, I believe this. I believe that as he made it up as he went along, the one thing that guided his pen was Johnny’s golden spin. That everything that was done was to follow that spin to its target.
Araki is one of the short list of writers I have discovered in the past 5 years of my life that has completely changed my approach to my craft. I used to go about things by viewing them in three acts:Fate(the destination), Destiny(the road one chooses to take there), and Determination(How one travels upon that road)
Now? Hope and Despair. Balanced on the edge of a knife. The darker the hour, the brighter the light shines to survive. The brighter the world, the darker the shadows it cannot reach become by comparison. Good vs evil. Ideals vs harsh reality. Love vs hate. Always fighting, always competing, but always feeding one into the other for both concepts are immortal. Neither can slay their foe. Because what is hope other than the belief that the darkness will fade? What is despair other than the regrets and doubts formed when that hope goes unrealized? In the world of fiction, these two elements must both exist or the fiction itself falls apart.
Hope and despair. These are the elements that make for all fiction and that competition is what makes a story worth telling.
Dude the whole second paragraph could be a monologue in jojo
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Dammit! Now I can’t unsee that! This revelation must be the work of your stand!
Okay, so what I'm gathering is that.
1. There is a force or field of calamity 'energy' that exists on the world. This calamity energy follows several rules:
1a. The calamity energy wants to keep itself going at all costs.
1b. The calamity energy alters probability to keep itself alive. Anything that happens, if there is any randomness to the outcome, the calamity energy will attempt to alter that outcome to benefit itself.
1c. The calamity energy is centered on the curse afflicting the Higashikata family and preferentially wants to stay in that bloodline; it continues over the generations by transferring through the bloodline, and exists in one individual at a time. Although it is transferred out of the family twice (first by Johnny Joestar to an unknown individual, then later by Kaato Higashikata into the boy who bullied her son), it continually seems to return to the family somehow.
1d. The calamity energy is not properly alive, but by altering probability to benefit itself it (randomly?) gives rise to Wonder Of U, who can think and plan, and make use of the calamity energy strategically. (Though we don't know what mechanisms affects the nature of a stand; it seems to be a combination of genetics and personality). The calamity energy also creats Tooru as a host for Wonder of U, but Wonder of U exists independently of Tooru.
2. Johnny, on realizing the Higashikata family is cursed, attempts to use the Holy Corpse to transfer the curse out of his wife. The calamity energy can't stop the Holy Corpse outright, but it kicks in to make sure the random person the curse gets transferred to is George Joestar, heir to the Higashikata blood.
3. Johnny tries again to cure his son, but instead of relying only on the Holy Corpse, he uses the Corpse to move the curse out of his son, and then in the instant it comes out, he shoots it with the Golden Spin. The Golden Spin is an extremely powerful attack that works on metaphysical rules, and thus can target and destroy the curse, though Johnny needs the curse outside of his son's body to do so safely.
4. The calamity energy kicks in again; altering the trajectory of the curse to pass through Johnny's head, causing the Golden Spin to headshot Johnny as it follows the curse. Additionally, the power of the Holy Corpse suffuses the ground, creating the sliding ginkgo leaf stand, which the calamity energy also takes advantage of to 'randomly' cause Johnny to be double tapped via falling rocks. Because it's fighting the overwhelming power of both the Holy Corpse AND the Golden Spin, this is the best it can do to protect the curse. Nevertheless, the Calamity Energy is seemingly victorious in this exchange, and presumably is able to return to the Higashikata bloodline (offscreen).
5. However, the Joestar bloodline is linked via mechanisms of 'gravity', a force of fate that draws stand users together and, in this theory, is involved in the way the Joestar's inherit their immense willpower and 'Golden Spirit'. The Golden Spin is able to travel along the metaphysical pathway linking the Joestars together. This nonphysical form causes the Golden Spin to take on a similar nature to the Calamity Energy, using coincidences, probability, and chains of events to create a situation where the Higashikata Curse is vulnerable. Additionally, it affects certain Joestar stands to utilize the spin.
6. Lucy Steele visits Japan, searching for the fruit of equivalent exchange (created by the Holy Corpse Energy long ago). She spots Tooru, but Wonder of U kicks in, causing Lucy's sickness to worsen and forcing her to return to the US. However, she meets Joseph Joestar, takes him with her, introduces her to Suzi Q, eventually resulting in Yoshikage and Kei Kira, another branch of the Joestar family, in a series of events possibly affected by the Golden Spin that dwells within the Joestar spirit.
7. Another event possibly affected by the Golden Spin: while assisting Lucy, Joseph leaves behind his sandal with his name engraved upon it. A sandalmaker is inspired when finding it, and influences his daughter to name her son Josefumi Kujo. This non-blood connection creates another metaphysical avenue for the Joestar Golden Spirit to be inherited (symbolized by Josefumi's joestar birthmark despite having no obvious bloodline connection), and another branch of influence for the Golden Spin.
8. Both Yoshikage and Joesefumi develop stands that incorporate the power of the spin.
9. The rest of Jojolion carries out as the Golden Spin attempting to manipulate events in a way to take down Wonder of U and the curse, and the calamity energy trying to manipulate events to preserve itself. Josefumi is key to the Golden Spin's efforts, since his ennui and social position make him a transient agent that opens up many opportunities for the Golden Spin to strike. As the Golden Spin has been divided up among the Joestar bloodline/spirit, unifying Josefumi and Yoshikage Kira, who both utilize the spin in their stands, gives their combined stand enough Spin-juice to reproduce the Golden Spin in the material world.
10. The Golden Spin achieves it's initial purpose when it successfully causes the deaths of both Tooru (after the curse has been transferred into him) and Wonder of U. This seemingly breaks Higashikata curse and the Calamity Energy's hold over the Higashikata family. (Though as we've seen in the past, even if you transfer the curse out of the family, it shows up in subsequent generations. This is the only real inconsistency I can see).
This is why YT exists
The idea that anyone on earth can put through their opinion or theory on something and reach a much broader audience than they could ever hope for, this was an amazing video and i can't even imagine how long it took to write all of this out wow
As time went on i realised that one of the main reasons i love this series and consequentially HATE the Araki Forgot meme or rather the meme culture that has formed around Jojo as a whole is that..it completely ignores what Araki or really any storyteller's primary intention should be...and that is emotional resonance.
What good is a story that has absolutely 0 plot holes or inconsistencies and perfect 100% detailed explanations? It is hollow, a mere attempt at creating a flawless story when no such thing can exist. The beauty of stories is in their way to resonate with us and make us FEEL things like i mean really WHO gives a shit about HOW it happens? It's always about WHAT happens and what emotions it evokes from you. We need to stop trying to see objectivity and describing everything as if we're merely external observers or critics, did it make you emotional? Then it had the desired impact. That is what matters the most.
Great video man this is really interesting. Part 8 is my favorite part so I always love to see more stuff about it and see it talked about more. Araki made the best parts back to back with 7 and 8 fr
Your video is really good, it's change my perception of the end and the story. Your theory is incredible, probably my favorite about Jojolion ! I will wait your futures videos like this one ! God bless you and your work :)
Thank you, that's all really kind! I had hoped to have a second video out by now, but life's been a bit busy/stressful. My next video will be the start of a series I want to do where I talk about how JoJo evolves and iterates on itself between parts. I'm hoping I can make that one as engaging as this one! And have a few of the elements be a bit cleaner.
I also plan on doing stuff other than JoJo, but with the first 12 episodes of Stone Ocean just out it's where my mood is.
What a great video! It really looks at the narrative of the part from a whole new perspective and explains story elements better, connecting them in better and clearer way. This was very much needed since personally I and the community agree that the story had a lot of plot holes and inconsistencies, but when everything is viewed from the context of Jonny's sacrifice, the story becomes much more cohesive. That isn't to say the story was perfect but at least it makes us appreciate Araki as a writer the way he always brings everything full circle. Again, great video man would LOVE to see your takes on other topics in Jojo's
Stardust Crusarders final twist: Jotaro's stand can stop time too
JoJolion's final twist: "Before explaining how Josuke's stand works, let's talk a bit about Jesus of Nazareth's role in the post Made In Heaven's universe"
I still don't understand JoJolion that well, but thank you for contributing towards whatever understanding I do have. I'm looking forward to see what else you make
this is one of the best theories i’ve ever watched period, completely recontextualized the story for me and made me love it even more
Beautiful, I really like his idea. It ties a lot of themes together and I actually got chills at some parts (when Johnny was sacrificing himself and talking about the connections between people). Also the video was really well made and it must have taken a while to edit. I cant believe the video took so long to find me, but I guess good fortune takes it sweet time lmao.
Good stuff. Clear and thorough explanation.
I watched from start to finish. Helped me understand a lot of the weird bits in part 8
I watched the entire thing, can't believe how well this video was made, you deserve more subs
Thank you so much! Honestly, the video has really been blowing up this last week or so. I hope to get a lot more subs, but I'm really excited by how much traffic this is getting right now.
I'm working on another video right now, the beginning of a series on JoJo. I do plan on doing videos on other series as well, but JoJo is where my brain is at right now! Between holidays and regular work some stuff has gotten in the way, but I should have plenty of time to work on it the next few days.
@@OtherMeanings you explained part 8 pretty well! I am excited to see what else you'll upload, i will follow your career with great interest!
A thing that confused me..the first time I heard of part 8 Josuke I always thought it was a continuation of Part 4 Josuke’s Life deciding to become a Sailor and lose Crazy Diamond but Gain a new stand “Soft & Wet” but the reason I thought of that was because I never knew of Steel Ball Run or the fact it was all in a different universe.
Honestly this was how I saw the end of the part and I feel that people should give Part 8 a reread. This is because many got a skewed sense of time and events as it came out monthly. Also I was surprised when you said the Lokakaka, rock disease, and rock humans origin was unclear. As one of the big things explained in their birth and the final part of part 8 was that they came from negative flow. They were a counterbalance that came against humans and other things in the world. Some came from "cursed" lands and would gravitate towards blessed lands. It was also said that blessings and curses are interchangable in a way.
This is seen in how each flows fruit acted. Where the original negative flow Lokakaka would exchange one part of a persons body for another one of their body parts. And then the new positve flow Lokakaka that grew from a tree at a blessed land, the location of the Wall Eyes aka The Earth Blessed By The Saint Johnny, and from Josefumis ability, traded between people like how Johnny traded the Rock Disease over to himself and took on anothers negative flow. In a way he redirected it similar to how Love Train, a stand ability from a holy corpse, redirected fortune. But in part 8 this was Soft and Wet going from absorption to plundering and its Go Beyond Ability. It all culminated in a being born from the Land through positve flow faced a being born from Negative flow.
So with Part 7 and 8 in mind, we have been introduced to the positive and negative flow along with the ideas of blessed and even "cursed" lands with the Devils Palm, Morioh, and New Guinea(where the Lokakaka orignated). Even the different beings from them like Rock People, Humans born from an exchange and a saints land, and the humans who would go on to become a saint. This is why part 9 is called Jojo Lands, as it will involve other lands, saints, rock people, and possibly another person born from a holy land. I'm really looking forward to it. And I look forward to seeing who the next jojo will be, and seeing a culmination of part 7 and 8.
the name of jojolion itself come from evangaleon which in greek mean good news/good luck.
This theory really tied the whole part together and elevated it above what it originally was in my eyes. I need to read it again with this idea in mind.
Absolutely incredible video. The way that you speak is beautiful too.
I didn't get so well why golden spin was affected by calamity even it being capable of surpassing through dimesions.
I definitely could have been more explicit about that! My general point was that the spin itself could pass through the calamities but all the things it was attached to could not. So the spin had to become finer and finer, leaving behind more of it's original form, until it was detached enough from it's origin to attack the calamity. For example, during the Radio GaGa incident the calamities rebuffed Lucy's investigation, sending Joseph and Lucy away, but the spin made it closer anyway through coincidence: the geta that gets left behind. That's why the end point of all this is Go Beyond. Go Beyond is the spin once it has left behind all form and become an infinitely thin spinning line. Of course even this version still has to be used as a stand power by Josuke. Though, in this interpretation, the reason Josuke was born was to shoot that spin in the first place. Anyway, it is just my interpretation after all!
@@OtherMeanings ery nice
This is one of the best interpretations of jojolion i've seen, i have my own problems with the execution of the last arc in jojolion but i think it's a story that deserves to be look at beyond the symple "bad or good" wich is kinda hard to do with a story you've been reading over several years, some details just get lost in your mind, so seeing a thematic breakdown like this is really nice.
God please make more videos on jojo, it's so refreshing to hear opinions on jojolion that arent just the usual aeonstar circlejerk or Tooru hate. 10/10 video
This video deserves more attention this really made me appreciate part 8 so much more.
Just finished reading JoJolion and then immediately watched this video. Fantastic editing and explanation. I just subscribed and I'm super excited to see what you do next :)
I felt so-so about the last arc and ending of Jojolion, but this video has gotten me to actually appreciate it in a way I couldn't before. Good luck and happy video making in future videos!
Hands down the best video about Jojolion ever made, maybe the best video about Jojo in general.
This was so interesting to listen to. Its such an interesting take that i want to reread part 7 and 8 with this in mind
I can't remember the last time I saw a video this long without turning my attention elsewhere. I thought that the end of jojolion was weird and anticlimatic, but I also thought I was missing the point of it. Your video helped me completely shift my perspective on Part 8, Part 7, and on Araki's skills. This is a very deep and intertwined story that is masterfully written, as is this video. Thank you.
Revisiting this and still utterly fascinated at the meaning and complexity of this interpretation. Part 8 for me has truly stood the test of time for being my second favourite part due to having so many elements that just work so greatly together. Though I still prefer Steel Ball Run, I'd call part 8 Araki's peak as an artist and author. To think just now we've learned our first piece of news of part 9, I'm excited to see what the next adventure has in store.
This is one of my favorite videos ever made, & even if Araki didn't intend this (I geniunely think he did), this is now canon in my head. It really shows the importance of the Joestar heritage & what it truly means to become a Saint. I love Gappy & I really hope we see him again at some point in the future.
I was hooked the second you explained Act IV shooting Johnny was just its function as trying to kill its original target of the disease. Wonderful analysis. JoJoLion will have mysteries that will continue to be unearthed for years I expect. The strangest JoJo part for sure, but also the deepest.
Thank you for this! I had an even harder time understanding this part than the previous ones, but that's part of the fun of this series, theorizing and looking up interpretations that help you get a better handle on the plot
This is an amazing video, rip Jōbin he was my favourite
Dude, this was incredible. Please continue to upload!
Briliant!!... I really like your voice and the writing is awesome. Thank you for this amazing video
Thank you that means a lot! My voice in particular I worried would be a breaking point for people. Not that I think I sound particularly bad, just one's own voice is hard to judge, you know?
I had a good time making it, so I'm glad you enjoyed it! More coming soon! (when I can pry myself away from work)
Holy shit I’m so glad TH-cam showed me this video, it’s been awhile since I’ve actually been able to nerd out on Jojo. Awesome video
Great video definetly gonna share this as much as I can
Thanks, I read part 8 but I think this analysis really cleared some things that I didn’t under about the plot.
What a fantastic project, for a first, this is probably the best piece of Jojolion content I've seen on this website. Keep at it, you've made something incredible 💯
It was the flow of good fortune that brought me to this video. I was just thinking about Jojolion and what it meant overall when your video just "by coincidence" came across my feed.
8:15 those two panels are a really neat parallel.
looking at it like this made me realize go beyond isn't as much of a nonsense deus ex as I thought
Thank you for making this, I never devoted enough thought to understand jojolion like this, but now I can really appreciate it
I always thought that Johnny shot Gregor to transfer the rock curse from his son to himself. So no one else would suffer such a fate. It really shows that his character changed
But I could see that tusk act 4, or rather it's infinite spin, to attack the source of the flow
Really interesting theory
I just recently finished jojolion after watching or reading all of the previous parts. You have some great points here that did not occur to me reading everything one after another. It really added to my enjoyment of the series. Thanks for the amazing video!
A wonderful, wonderful analysis!!
In my opinion, araki heavily uses Christian themes in parts 6-8, not just the obvious stuff.
The talk of “gravity” and “misfortune” is closely related to Grace theology. Your description of “Tusk’s good fortune clinging on the edge of calamity” is close to what many Christian theologians have said about the “fallen” and sinful state of the world. While the Devil rules most material things (like the calamity and abusive relationships of the family), God’s Grace also constantly works against it.
Newfound appreciation for Part 8, after having read it a year ago. Thanks for this! Wish I saw it sooner.
25:03 is genuinely when I started believing this theory, I think personally there is no reason for Joseph's stand to come out of the Joestar birthmark like Josuke's, Johnny's didn't so why did his? It feels like such a small thing to not add in but there it is, drawn on the page, it really feels like that is saying that something from Johnny was passed down the family from Joseph to Holy to Kira/Josefumi/Josuke. I actually see no other reason why the stand would come out the birthmark it really feels like a hammer has hit a nail on the head.
Part 8 draws many parallels from its previous volumes, and you could say that when it comes to the Rokakaka, the Stone Disease, and Rock Humans, they all draw on the events of parts 1,2, and 4, respectively.
The Rokakaka Fruit (Part 8) and the Corpse of Jesus (Part 7) are much like the Mask and the Stone from parts 1 and 2; while the ghouls created by Dio and his Vampires and the Sickness Josuke suffered in Part 4 resemble the effects of the Fruit.
A human wears a mask -> an Equivalent Exchange happens, -> the body is affected.
Human eats Fruit -> Equivalent Exchange happens ->, an effect on their body.
The Rock Humans, in this case, would resemble the Pillar Men, and their desire to obtain the Rokakaka Fruit can also be interpreted as a similar desire of Kars (The Ultimate Life Form), Diavolo (The Erasing and Control Over Time), and Dio/Pucci's goal (Obtaining Heaven).
Amazing explanation. I hope more people can understand that jojolion is a masterpiece
Thanks! JoJolion is brilliant, and JoJo just continues to iterate on itself with each part, always finding interesting ways to develop. I'd love to do a video on that at some point: how JoJo builds on its past.
In a post-Part-9 world, I've come back to this video. The question that's posed now is- What is balancing out all of the good fortune that the Lava rock brings? Where is the bad fortune?
OH AND WHERE IS THIS CHANNEL, I NEED YOU BACK !!
This video resolved all of my issues with part 7 & 8.
Now I can finally see them as one big story.I used to think Jojo lost some of it's soul in this part but I am happy that I was wrong.
Johnny might've become my favourite character ever now.
I will look forward to your videos