Motorcycle Quickshifters Explained | MC Garage
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- Imagine seamless upshifts without using the clutch or rolling off the throttle. Sounds fun, right? Well, that’s exactly what quickshifters allow you to do, and we’re going to explain how they work in this video from the MC Garage.
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Like radial brake calipers, single-sided swingarms, and inverted forks, motorcycle quickshifters were born at the track from a desire for faster lap times. In recent years this tech has trickled down to the street, bringing clutchless up-and-down shifting to the masses. In all honesty, it's a completely unnecessary feature for the street, but damn if it isn't entertaining and addicting.
How Does A Quickshifter Work?
Normally to shift gears you'd roll off the throttle slightly and pull in the clutch, because the transmission needs to be unloaded for the cogs in the gearbox to slide into the next position. With a quickshifter, that momentary unloading of the transmission is achieved by manipulating the ignition spark. Here's how it works: There's a sensor integrated into the shift linkage that detects when the shifter moves and cues the bike's ECU to interrupt spark. So right as you're toeing the shifter there's a milliseconds-long cut in power that lets those gears down in the transmission shift over on their shafts, no clutch or throttle blip required.
Here's how it works: There's a sensor integrated into the shift linkage that detects when the shifter moves and cues the bike's ECU to interrupt spark. So right as you're toeing the shifter there's a milliseconds-long cut in power that lets those gears down in the transmission shift over on their shafts, no clutch or throttle blip required.
What Are The Benefits Of A Quickshifter?
Clutchless upshifting may only take a split second, but those half-seconds add up when you're racing. With a quickshifter, upshifts happen so fast that drive is essentially uninterrupted, so you can grab a gear while transitioning between corners or even while you're banked over exiting a turn. Quickshifters also free up attention since shifting goes from being an action that requires at least two precisely timed, synchronized motions to one independent movement.
Factory And Aftermarket Quickshifters
On the street, none of that stuff really matters, but a quickshifter is still a fun, convenient feature, and an easy way to make any bike feel sportier. Manufacturers are fitting them to everything from naked bikes like the Vitpilen 701 to touring bikes like the K1600, and there are plenty of aftermarket options.
Dynojet offers the Dynojet Quick Shifter (DQS) that works in conjunction with its fuel-controller kits. Bazzaz makes accessory kits for pretty much every bike, and you can get the Quick Shift as a stand-alone module or as part of a kit.
The Drawbacks Of Using A Quickshifter
Some people say quickshifters are for lazy riders, but if you’re not a fan of quickshifters, that’s likely because you haven’t tried one yet. They really are fun. The only downside to using a quickshifter regularly is that your clutch and throttle finesse are likely to get rusty, which is a legitimate concern.
Also, as with clutchless shifting, the smoothness of the shift is somewhat dependent on engine speed. Some engines just don’t quickshift well at lower rpm and it makes the ride uncomfortable. Luckily, most aftermarket kits-like the Dynojet Quick Shifter and Bazzaz Quick Shift unit-let you adjust the ignition cut time and sensor sensitivity so you can dial in the best performance for the way you ride.
What About Downshifting And Auto-Blippers?
And if you're wondering about auto-blip downshifting, that's the cutting edge of electronically enhanced gear changes. Like quickshifting, auto-blip lets you downshift without using the clutch. It's available on a few bikes and there are aftermarket kits, but the bikes have to have a ride-by-wire throttle so that the system can electronically auto-blip the throttle plates. It's seriously trick stuff and likewise, a lot of fun to use.
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So it’s basically turning your bike into a semiautomatic?
What’s a semi automatic?
Yes
I would have a quick shifter if I do track days or race my bike all the time but in city and long distance touring totally unnecessary. I tried it and is an amazing piece of kit but I don't want a semi automatic bike. Just my opinion.
@@BelfastBikerbasically any car with paddle shifters is a semi automatic, no clutch but you need to tell it when to shift
@@BelfastBikera auto car with variable shifting mode
Yey, at least Motorcycle Magazine understands me. Girls still not..
Lol😂
My wife/pillion seriously enjoys the quickshifter, no more bobblehead back and forth................................
What the hell 😂
hahahaha
KRAL VİDEO AT
I love how informative these videos are. Up and down quickshifer is going to be my next R1 mod.
Death Wish83 auto blip man
quickshifer and auto blipper
cant have your quickshifter go down without an autoblipper as well
Please cover Cornering ABS vs normal ABS
aaaaah this is a super good idea! there can also be quite the variation in normal ABS systems. Some of them are tuned extremely conservatively...annoyingly so. Some cut in before your wheel actually slips. Others are better. Honestly, there is so much room for improvement in ABS. The current systems cycle so slowly. They are easily beatable by an experienced rider (in a non-panic scenario)....but they're there for when you panic!
yes please!
@@skunkhollow1 yes please
@@DearMajesty
Just like drive by wire throttle.
It's so nice to ride something with a throttle cable occasionally and realize how much delay dbw has.
@@MrTheHillfolk yeah crazy how much smoother some old school throttle cabled bikes feel
i must agree a quick shifter is a lot of fun, my cbr1000rr sp also has an auto bliper now that is so good, it has transformed my street riding, it gives you as a rider more time to improve riding skills, body position, braking. As an old biker it has breath new life into my riding here in Thailand
Remember...”Shift happens”... 😏
Got spoiled with the s1000rr. Cant imagine riding a motorcycle without a quickshifter again
try one of automatic transmission hondas. i was making so much fun of them and now i feel like not riding sport bikes again
SLAV agreed lol adds a whole new fun to riding and the noise it makes, it’s addictive
My first experience was a 1290 SDR demo ride, full throttle from about 30 to 100 mph. Bang bang bang. Wheeeew! what a rush.
Is it damaging to the bike to not use the quickshifter if you have it?
@@jakemandel92 as long as you're shifting properly it's perfectly safe
I shifted quickly from cathub as soon as i knew this episode was on...
Make a video on shorter gearing ratios and Taller gearing ratios.!!!.
Please.
It's just leverage and fulcrums...
why?
why? less teeth in the rear (or more in the front) decrease acceleration but increase top speed, to a certain extend ofcourse and vice versa
there's nothint more to say
Yep
Thats a sprocket setup and not a gear ratio joren vangoethem
I thought people would hate this so I am kinda caught off guard. If they took the clutch pedal away from our manual cars, there would be riots. But I guess motorcycles are different... or the people are different... .
I have a quick shifter on my MT09 and I love it. At low speeds I use the clutch even though the QS works. To me it is now an essential bit of kit. Sounds great too on full bore.
It doesn’t come standard?
@@marcosalarcon3341 it comes as standard on MT09 now!
I just got my first bike with a factory up and down and it feels like a bit of an evolution in riding mechanics. It changes what it takes for me to teach someone to ride, I know that. The casual, mid-corner shift is just so easy now. What a blessing, thank you Mr Kawasaki.
Seems like one step closer to having an automatic transmission.
A sequential shifter with a fuel/ignition cut to help you shift faster seems like an automatic to you? You must hate competition/race cars and bikes.
@@drkstr7 I didn't say I hate it, but pretty sure my point stands. It makes shifting easier and faster. If nothing but speed matters, then automatic transmissions will eventually be the standard for racing.
@Steven w bro manuall transmission allows you to have a complete controll over selection of gear in any condition, thus when you choose manuall settings in automatic car you will feel that it takes some time in shifting if (not if it is an cvt or dct)
I have a buddy who rides S1000RR. I've been riding along with him and hearing the sound of the quickshifter is so addictive. The pops and bang of the quickshifter make is just so beautiful...
I love my quick shifter, I love to do regular shift with the clutch too, when I'm am just cruising... But when its time to race that shit is fun
Ya it's the only time I'll power shift when it's go time, cruising after 45 year's of using a clutch becomes muscle memory.
So you can still use clutchshift when cursing around the city
LOL, you are totally wrong, Quickshifters are a must on normal streets as well😁 After having a test ride on a ZX-10R I was convinced. I do not know how riding is possible w/o.
If Motorcyclist Mag sold gear with just "motorcyclist" on it, I'd support you guys, just saying. :)
^^This! On that note, I would also buy a MC Garage shirt too 😉
I've had one on the last 3 bikes I have owned. On thw street they are a great saver of your clutch hand on long journeys qhen you end up in irritating traffic situations. They're not just about the track, although they're so much more fun there
Well . . . at the risk of being controversial, let me inform you about a definite negative to quickshifters.
Triumph have been fitting them for some time and my Speed Triple RS had the option from new and my S1000RR has one as standard. The problem comes when on the rare occasion you hit a false neutral when changing gear. This has never happened to me on my S1000 but the 1050 motor on the Speed Triple is occasionally prone and in particular, if you aren't firm with the shift lever. Now consider the scenario with a quick shifter fitted. As you change up, the ignition momentarily cuts and unloads the gearbox but because you weren't positive enough, instead of selecting the next gear, you are now in a false neutral but with the throttle pinned. The next stage of this mechanical armageddon is the power comes back on line as the ignition reconnects. The dogs are scrambling desperately to connect but can't do so because the speed mismatch is so high until all of a sudden, the graunching and knocking terminates in an almighty bang as the required gear slams under full load. This has cost Triumph a whole load of new gearboxes under warranty, indeed, in most instances they didn't bother repairing the box but merely replaced the whole bike. Don't believe me . . .go on the Triumph owners forum and do a search on broken gearboxes from quickshifters!!! I'm not saying for one moment that all bikes with a quickshifter will grenade their boxes and my S1k has been fine to date but I'm sparing in my use of the QS. Would I touch one on a Triumph?? . . . not a chance in hell - your bike is a two-wheeled IED just waiting to grenade itself. Research it properly before fitting one. Other than that, have fun with your quickshifter!!!!
Great video. I mainly use my quick shifter on my R1200GS to downshift in corners if I'm wanting a little more engine braking. And it is fun.
Whenever I watch your videos about Versus Versus stuff, I feel so freakin down that my bike is useless😢
Cant be mithered with shifting anymore. I nabbed a Honda DCT and have never looked back..
Good video always like and find your series informative. Personally however i find all the technology that’s coming into motorcycles this days a bit too much. E.g. one of the things i really enjoyed when beginning to ride was learning how to blip the throttle amongst other things, now you have something that does it automatically. Such stuff just doesn’t appeal to me. On the other hand i do appreciate other more useful technologies such as ABS
Yeah I agree. I want to be the instrument that works my gearing. Otherwise I might as well just get an automatic. I also agree on the ABS, it's a nice, sensible safety feature but not something I would pay extra money for. In my 11 years of riding, I never once came close to braking hard enough to even worry about locking em up
If your old carpenter's hands are sore with arthritis and pulling a clutch lever three hundred times a day is painful and limits riding, there's nothing superfluous about quickshifters and related upgrades.
I never thought I'd consider an "auto" trans on a bike but nowadays, my wife's NC700X DCT is looking more and more attractive.
Well, a quickshifter on my own bikes is starting to look like a medical necessity. I've never much shifted without the clutch but I'm starting to do it as the cartilage gets scarcer.
So quickshifter for the upshifts... but then, what about using one on, say, my FJR1300 (Gen 2) and then self-blipping on the downshifts? Will that work?
Or, the Missus' other bike, a Ninja 650 she had fitted with a Rekluse auto-clutch; that could be a good thing, too, and even I dispensed with the clutch lever during a brutal in-traffic ride home. Yeah, I'd vowed never to use it, but the hand was calling for Advil and that's not a good solution. Self-blipping downshifts? I'm ready to try it.
Old. It happens, or you don't get old.
I worked at a large dealer for a while after college. DCT transmissions in bikes are getting more and more common. the africa twin has one as well, along with the new goldwing. They are surprisingly really responsive and fun to ride.
You don't need quickshifters here in Philippines since under bones here are popular, ranges from 100 cc to 125cc, they're pretty comfortable, but they don't speed much
Still... Thanks for the information about quickshifters
I noticed that most racing videos change gears without the clutch and researched how they did it
Great video. My 22 busa has one
Another advantage of quikshifters is your oil stays alot cleaner due to the lack of clutch fibres contaminating the oil from not having to use the clutch
I cannot for the life of me understand why people say quickshifter is overkill for the streets...when I’m redlining my 1098 through the gears there is nothing scarier than pulling in the clutch at 140mph and then try to engage next gear smoothly. Can be done but scary. I’m looking to try this soon.
If you're doing 140mph on the street, you're irresponsible and dangerous.
Heard of AutoBahn?
Then why not include that in your little bragfest so everyone understands?@@spiritbuu
You saying addicting sent me on a massive Google spiral 😂
Addicting Addictive arghhh time to figure out where to use which word
Both are applicable 👍🏻
Yes quick shifter works great, feeling very engaging to ride. Great addition on any street bikes.
Really, aren’t quick-shifters enough to nudge down the value of dual-clutch technology?
Love my down blippers and quickshifters! Can’t believe even a 790duke comes with a decent up and down now :)
I just cannot get enough of Ari and Zach's Videos! MC Commute and MC Garage are lifelines. Just went over to the Motorcyclist web page to see if there was any way to get MC gear like the t-shirts they usually sport but alas no go! Are they staff-only apparel?
Next year Ari will be like: _Riding a glorified scooter is so fun you nolonger have to think about shifting anymore._
This is precisely the technology that insurance companies look for to raise insurance rates
Love my quickshifter. Never do track again without one.
Nah fam, a big part of the fun of riding motorcycles is grabbing that clutch and slamming into the next gear. My MT-09 has quick-shift and even though I test my manhood against other automobiles, I never use quick shift. I just love the chunking through the gears, it’s one of my favorite parts of riding bike.
I'm sure a QS is a blast to use (haven't had the pleasure), however it takes the enjoyment out of clutching. My bike doesn't have a QS... and that's the way she will stay... 🙂👍
This guy looks like captain America
I’m intergrated into the shift linkage 🤔
I’m a new rider, and I like the idea of quick shifters but I feel like I want to get to a good and fast standard of riding before incorporating one of these… I feel like as a novice my skill would suffer.
If I get good with a quick shifter then took it off I’d probably be a shit rider without it.
I don't even know how to ride a bike but still this video is very informative 😂😂
But can You do a wheelie?
There's no such word as addicting!it's addictive!
Great video as usual.
I'd love to see a video where you guys explain horsepower and torque; it seems that people often misuse the terms, sometimes interchangeably, and it's hard (for me at least) to know exactly what each measures.
I'm thinking things like how are they measured? Some simple maths and comparisons to explain what the numbers really mean. Stupid question, but does North America measure torque different to elsewhere? In North America foot/pounds figures are given, but in Europe it's newtons metres right? Wouldn't the different units give different values for the same torque, or am I totally off?
Cheers again for the videos.
About the same. Just instead of using Newtonmeter they use pound per foot
I still prefer the old ways, even after trying the quick shifter on BMW R1200GS
I would have poo-pooed the quick shifter as essentially a gadget for those would be racers and sports bike riders: I'm not biased - honest... BUT I've just part ex'd a very shiny slow bike for a 2016 BMW R1200R Sport, with quick shifter up and down.
In two weeks I've been blown away with how much pointless fun it is, how it makes progression along the road easier and quicker (in a better use of the acceleration sort of way - stay with me! And just the sound the bike makes running up the gears and that auto blipper on the down shifts means I'm never going back to the "old fashioned" way of changing gear.
Drawbacks? Well the manual explains it in technical-ese and to loosely translate: don't use it from first to second or second to first, it's just too clunky. Don't do it on up shifts with minimal throttle and finally don't use it when gently downshifting to coast to a stop.
It works best when the bike is ridden "briskly", it doesn't have to be fast but you need a bit of urgency for it to work smoothly. If you roll up through the gears lazily it will clunk and jerk. If you want to make progress that way use the clutch. But if you roll out of the roundabout onto the dual carriageway or down the motorway slip way (on route I think for our American cousins) use half throttle and hold it and tap the gear lever you will chuckle like you did when you first experienced going from a push bike to a moped with a throttle. You will never tire of it! Down shifts coming up to the roundabout need to me using quite a bit of engine braking and again just tap the lever. It becomes all Barry Sheene (pick an appropriate age related motorcycling hero in your own case) as your speed drops and the auto blipper makes music to your ears.
So after 44 years of learnt blipping downshifting coordination I now just tap away and grin inanely as I come to a halt. My mind isn't giving me an analogy for how much of a step change it is, but try it yourself and I guarantee you won't go back to an old school gearbox. You might convince yourself, in a righteous sort of way, that it's not for you. But give me a thumbs up for when that twinkling smile lights up underneath your helmet and you think - "damn he was right after all..."
Basically you want a scooter.
How does..anti-wheelie works?
Speed sensors in both wheels. Front wheel turns slower than rear, they cut the power until the speeds match again.
Bladsmith, that's not how, otherwise it would disallow trailbraking as well.
They use the bikes IMU to sense its angle relative to its other measurements.
That's how most work, but bikes like the S1000RR that have wheelie control also have a gyro that senses the angle of the bike and prevents it from looping.
My yamaha r1 have power command .I need quick shift for more power ??
Do auto blippers next 👍🏽
What’s that? Like auto rev match ?
@@Fb6.Nan0 It's kinda like quickshifter only it's for downshifting
Good shit. Always on point. As mentioned, there are definitely some motorcycles that just don't like quickshifters....especially at high RPM. My Versys 650 doesn't really like clutchless upshifting at lower RPM. It has a rather clunky and quite stiff gearbox. Most bikes will happily do it at higher RPM's though
Hii Ari,
As usual videos from MC garage r both informative and fun to watch. Could you make a video on how to find out the worn valve seats and crankshaft?. I have faced these issues on my CBR 250 and couldn't find till I opened up the block.
Haha, I'm working on my license atm and shifting up is actually the most fun part. I'd prefer quick shifting down for stop lights and stuff. I'm still pretty jerky there 😅
"How to make your motorcycle more like a scooter"
Takes away the fun for me. I enjoy shifting it adds to the ride for me.
I don't use a clutch when shifting up or down shifting and I don't have a quick shifter,
Quick shifter are for little girls who can't drive manual
I'd love to see a video on changing your gearing from standard to GP.
It’s different on every bike but the same idea and would be a 39 second video: flip the knuckle that the shift linkage attaches to.
I already came across 10 people that asked the same exact question they all want to know if it works on a downshift even though you already said what it does and what it does not do people are not paying attention or they don't understand English that well apparently you don't want to answer the questions so I did
I think an auto-blipper is more useful on powerful bikes.
more useful on bikes with a lot of engine braking
New superbikes have quickshifters and ECUs that can do it all.... My zx10r has quickshift up/down and autoblip, as does the r1m and various other more expensive bikes
hey mc, what model zx10 do you have? the new se? i think that is that only bikes besides zx10rr that comes with autoblip. i love the ninja, ive had two zx6rs
i have a '17 zx10r, comes with the same quickshifter as the zx10rr and zx10r SE, all you have to do is get it flashed to enable the quick-downshift and auto-blip in the computer
Mc W The 2018 comes with a quick shifter and auto blipper now.
I'd like to see gearbox wear on a bench run set up for two identical gearboxes. One using an up and down quick shifter on one using clutch. Perhaps 1,000, 5,000, 10,000 mile, 20,000 mi just to see if there's any wear differences.
I'm expecting the clutch to be better but that is also assuming that the clutch is pulled in all the way every time and that doesn't always happen.
So would be interesting to see real results.
Project Farm, Are you listening? :-)
Quickshifter / semi-automatic.
You mean an Assault Shifter?
So is that’s why TH-camrs be doing 189 with no problem?
Please make a video about rebuilding inverted forks
Sounds pretty cool but when I'm really getting on it racing somebody I don't use my clutch anyway and I can't see the quick shifter making that big of a difference but I guess I would have to try one to know for sure
I enjoy shifting and controlling the throttle, never got tired of it.
But everyone their own......
Hopefully I will still be able to find bikes without quick shifter, traction control and different drive modes in the near future since I hate to share the decision making with some kind of computer chip.
Safe rides and keep the comments coming 👍🏍
you can still do it.. it’s just gotta be more conscious about it
I ve got a gsxr k6 1000 and have put launch control, anti spin, anti wheelie and quick shifter. You don't need to always "use" them, but its nice to have them. Most of the times anti wheelie is off for example 🤣🤣 but when I want to push my bike to the limits, all "anti" are on. I still want to live instead of powersliding out of a corner accidentally because the road might have mud or oils or whatever. On track everything is off except shifter
Hi, could you do a series of videos on handling dynamics of the bike, why does a phenomenon occurs and how to troubleshoot it.
Eg. bike pulls to one end while hard braking and downshifting.
Or tends to shoot the rear end out on left corner yet feels stable on right corners.
Well a lot of similar dynamics comes into play, a little troubleshooting advice and what to look for tips would really help out. Thanks.
Exelent explanation!! Thank you "Mister MC garage" ❤🍀
This technology has been out for decades. Vw used it on the clutch on the semi automatic transmissions in the 60's. When you grabbed a gear it sensed the gear change and disengaged the clutch.
I never enjoyed using a quick shifter. I don't get why anyone who rides on the street likes them.
Either shift gears or buy a honda with a dct. All this crap with auto blip and quick shifting removes the mechanical interaction with the machine.
My K1600 has both quick shifting up and auto blipping down, yes its awesome! (BMW calls it gear shift assist pro)
Good to know about the bmw thank you!
Great vid,any chance of doing something on engine type (twin, triple, 4 pot etc.) characteristics and how manufactures use different technology to make engines more distinctive?
his bicep veins scare me
Reliability over the years: This topic is so important for anyone buying a bike, but surprisingly the topic is not covered by the media. I would much appreciate if you can take the challange and cover it, comaring firms and models reliability over the years.
Garage men probably can give statistics and personal impressions.
Thank you :)
I can’t help but feel if quick shifters had always been around everyone would want normal shifting so they could be more involved and have more fun.
It's a redundant topic for some, but it's all in the name of a good time. Blipping is what I'd prefer spend money on, but quick shifting in a pinch as a car is moving into your lane as you're side by side... It sounds useful, but I don't even know if I would use it as muscle memory is second nature is to just do it myself. You'd have to religiously use the quick shifter to not go for the shift yourself.
on the track it is 1 less thing to focus on
Quick shifter is completely useless for street riding
Once you ride a bike with a quickshifter you wont wanna go back. Especially if it comes with a good one straight from the manufacturer. Would love one on my commute.
May i ask if quick shifter is good & ok to use everyday in city traffic road?
Great timing with this subject, was just thinking about getting one. I don't know anything on or about blipping but am going to look it up now. I have ride by wire. Thanks again MC Garage
You got one?
Does clutchless shifting have any negative effect on the transmission over time? Not using a quickshifter, just the loading the lever and closing the throttle method.
If done correctly, nope
For the average rider... none. But depending on the rider, bike, etc. you can upgrade to a better than stock clutch pack.
Hab auch diesen Rossi Helm im Hintergrund whooohoooo!
Ok, I guess I'll pass. Im not a racer, and im mostly just a city rider so quickshifting is something I could live without.
Now I know. Thx MC Garage :)
Can you use your regular clutch as well?
That's some bad clutch work there Ari. Using only two fingers, you wouldn't be getting full clutch disengagement. Could lead to some premature clutch ware.
Very informative video as well. I had always wondered how quick-shifters work.
He’s sitting on a turned off bike. Tf u mean ware😂.
Actually it is more adviceable not to pull the clutch all the way for shifting
Depends on where the clutch bite point is. I see no point pulling all the way when the bite point is only ¼ way, the clutches were already disengaged.
It's about something different, if you want to shift your bike properly, you must induce a change in the torque flowing through your gearbox. You can create that by pulling the clutch or by blipping the throttle (for downshifts) or reducing throttle for upshifts. The actual change of gears is super fast, which is why there is absolutely no need to pull the clutch all the way. Your gear has been changed long before you start to reengage the clutch.
That's why shifting clutch less is best for your gearbox.
It depends on your bike and how you adjusted your clutch lever. My clutch lever play is 1cm and the clutch is fully disengaged after 3cm of pull, so even less than what you see in this video. I only use 2 fingers all the time.
I kinda have filosophical issue with this. And I've tried quicksifter couple of times.
I mean mastering clutch and throttle on up/downshifts is in my opinion part of the fun. It's little like manual cars. I've never tried a car that was more _fun_ with autobox. And I'm not talking about laptimes or performance, that's totaly different case.
I'm not particulary good driver, but I generally want to become better at all things I like.
See, I don't get how people think a quickshifter totally removes the clutch from riding a motorcycle. There's more use of a clutch then just shifting up and down...
You don't even need the clutch to shift, you can just roll of the throttle and click it into the next gear. In fact, on dirt bikes the main purpose of a clutch is setting off and modulating power, not shifting.
Yeah, and you can manage quite far without clutch if you have to. Dropped bike on mud few years back and broke clutch leaver :/.
And I don't have anything against quicksifters per se, I just don't get how they make driving more fun.
Matti Sillanpää you can upshift quicker, and whilst at full throttle. What's not fun about that? And on my bike with a full exhaust system it crackles when I shift up using the QS. It sounds awesome and it's also alot easier around town.
Maybe in a near future, motogp races will use fully automatic bike
Litre scooter maybe
So used to the regular shifting have yet to try it on my ninja 300 to bad I’ll never have a chance trading it in for a ninja 650 today
At that point just make it full automatic.
Thats just like using manual mode on an automatic.
Rather keep my skills than lose them.
Will it damage the dog-ears on the transmission if you use a quickshifter or autoblipper at low RPMs? Like below 2500rpms
Would a auto blipper, say from translogic, work with a bazzaz Q4 quick shift?
I just found there is a quick shifter made by IRC for the grom (mnthbx). I don’t know if it can downshift though.
So, do I need/able to use the clutch for shifting IF the bike has a quick shifter
Or, when I use the clutch, the QS is not activated?
I'd buy an automatic then. I dont know but this takes away the challenge of riding a manual bike.
Rarely use my clutch when shifting on my Benelli 250 2C principally because the clutch is so heavy!
Just don't downshift at speed without the clutch. You could speed wobble
I was racing 250cc GP bikes in my country in 1990-1993, still two strokes.
I designed my own quick shift, and I had the cutout time at about 4 milliseconds,
(Settable)
But by the time I got it right, I stopped racing (got married)
So never went on with it
Maybe I could have made some money now that I think of it.
And to be honest
We didn't even us ethe clutch when upshifting, we only very quickly blipped down the throttle, when normal racing, but we did use some clutch going down the gears, (without having a quick shifter)
is clutchless shifting bad for anything on the bike?
This is what I came here for.
thanks for the effort and the sharing. i was never clear on "slipper clutch". thanks in advance. thumbs up.
i know you asked for the video but i might as well try to explain, slipper clutch works in a way that it prevents the rear wheel lock when aggressively downshifting.
if you're on 3rd gear and downshift to a 2nd, the rear wheel will have more rotation than the engine is providing, causing the rear wheel to lock while the engine is trying to keep up.
on a slipper clutch, when this happens the clutch is mechanically engaged to avoid the rear wheel to lock
I would so love not to have to pull the clutch at the end of a long day of riding - which usually ends up in semi urban traffic where lots of shifting is needed. I have a BMW 1150RT, and the transmission and clutch must have been designed by the Leningrad Tractor Works....but the bike does have linked brakes, a wonderful feature.
Quick shifter can ruin your gearbox within milliseconds.. No not the one with QS fitted but if you ride other bike without it! as you can become habitual.
Speeding/gearing up on bumpy roads like in the Philippines would be a very very very welcome feature....i wish I had a QS on my Filipino Rusi scrambler.....But even on smooth roads like back home in the Netherlands...on my ex-bike R6 '99.....full throttle in the 2nd gear...then a QS would be conveniënt too...
I know it's a different technology that does it - but the result is the same: clutchless shifting - so I think it's funny that not having to use the clutch is considered sexy on a racing/sport bike but is considered not-quite-real-motorcycling when it's on a Z50 or a CT-70 or a GS450GA or a CB-750A or on a CanAm Spyder or a...
I seem to remember someone doing this back in the 1970s or earlier where moving the shifter grounded the ignition, thereby unloading the transmission?