The Truth About Clutchless Shifting | MC Garage
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- If you’re like a lot of riders, you use the clutch every time you shift gears. But you’ve probably heard of clutchless shifting. What is it, how does it work, and is it going to hurt your bike? We explain in this video from the MC Garage.
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If you’re like a lot of riders, you use the clutch every time you shift gears. But you’ve probably heard of clutchless shifting. Clutchless shifting is exactly what it sounds like: It means switching gears without utilizing the lever on the left bar. It’s a pretty common practice on upshifts, can work with downshifts, and, if done correctly, won’t hurt your transmission one bit. Curious to know more? We explain it all in this video from the MC Garage.
How Does Clutchless Shifting Work?
As we showed you in our how a motorcycle transmission works MC Garage, the cogs in the transmission slide along shafts to shift from one position to the next. When you’re on the gas and accelerating, the gear teeth are pushed hard against each other. The same goes when you are off the gas and decelerating with engine braking and anytime there is a load on the transmission, it’s not going to want to shift positions and move to the next gear.
How To Clutchless Shift A Motorcycle Perfectly Every Time
So, to shift gears you have to unload the transmission. Traditionally that’s done by rolling off the gas and pulling in the clutch lever. But here’s the thing, when you roll off the throttle and the instant before you start decelerating with engine braking, the transmission is unloaded. Pull the shift lever right as you roll right off the gas and it will slip into the next gear without the clutch. Of course, you need to use the clutch to get your motorcycle moving, in first gear, and when coming to a stop. But why not use it at other times?
For upshifts, it can actually be smoother and quicker to shift without the clutch and that means faster acceleration. It’s also fun and satisfying to do since it takes some technique to get it right. You can clutchless downshift too but it’s a little bit trickier. You need to blip the throttle and press down the shifter right as revs peak and it works best if you’re on the brakes since that helps match revs. Clutchless downshifting takes a lot more finesse and technique and there’s no real advantage to doing it as long as you’ve got a functional clutch lever. If you don’t however because the lever is broken or the clutch cable snapped while you’re out on a ride, you’re going to want to be familiar with clutchless shifting so you can get yourself home.
Most new or used motorcycles clutchless shift just fine, but some bikes like those with heavy flywheels or wide-ratio gearboxes don’t take kindly to the technique, so don’t feel bad if you’re struggling. Other bikes like those with high-revving engines and close-ratio gearboxes seem like they slip into the next gear with almost no effort at all. It all depends on the bike you’re riding and the revs at which you’re shifting. In general, the higher the RPM, the easier it will be.
Will Clutchless Shifting Damage Your Motorcycle?
So, the big question, is clutchless shifting going to hurt your motorcycle? Remember that video we did about wheelies where I said that wheelies that are done right aren’t going to hurt anything. The same thing applies here. If you’re using a good technique the shift should be buttery smooth and everything should be golden. But, if you’re forcing the shifter or grinding the gears you’re definitely putting undue wear on your transmission.
An easy way to learn the technique for upshifts is to preweight the shifter with your toe and then air the throttle. As soon as you roll off the gas, the shift lever is going to move and the gears are going to change. Eventually, you’ll get a feel for the timing and you’ll be able to do it without preweighting your shifter and without even thinking about it.
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bruh
Does it work on a yamaha blaster
Please help
'pre-weighted' shifting = Shift Forks worn & farked in quick time...
A doubt. Can I clutchless downshift by blipping while maintaining a throttle just before blipping
Ever shift from 1st to second and miss it and hit neutral? Ya sucks haha
zach cooler all the time lol
Wear riding shoes or boots?
Try doing it at the face of a jump😪
Sometimes it occurs to me from 4th to 5th, or from 5th to 6th.
Very strange feeling.
First time I hit a false neutral between 3rd and 4th freaked me the fuck out 😂
Another thing to keep in mind: the shift from first to second is always the hardest one, because the transmission is jumping over a large space in between the two gears - neutral. Clutchless shifting in between first and second can jerk and clunk at low speeds, and can sometimes pop you into neutral if you're giving it the beans. Make sure your shifter and any linkages are also adjusted as tight as you can get them, and same goes for throttle play. Most of the time when I do it, I'll clutch it for that shift and blip for the rest.
Ian Mittelstaedt 100% agree
I own a 06 CBR1000RR and i was constantly battling catching 2nd gear. It seems like everything has to be spot on to hit second gear. Between the chain, linkage, dirty hydraulic clutch oil and the type of motor oil i used effected this. Some days the bike would let peek into what it was like to ride the perfect machine other days i felt like it had Turrets Syndrome. I started looking at the quickshifters and the different types you could purchase buy i was confused on why one was more elaborate then others. I almost purchased one from a company called Heal Tech and it wasn't a bad price but i couldn't figure out why were some so elaborate. i finally decided to see if i could replicate what these quickshifters were doing because the clutch isn't cutting it. This was a blessing from heaven OMG i never use my clutch except in first gear to get going. no matter how fast or slow your going just roll off that throttle and poof right into gear. The days of missing 2nd gear and hearing that awful dreaded sound of failure are over. Ive been using this technique for about a year and at first ill say its something you have to get use to. Its just one of those things now thats automatic like breathing. When you first start this technique have your foot pull up on the shifter with a little pressure and the roll off the throttle. It should slip in to 2nd, 3rd and so on with ease but if you don't have enough pressure on you shifter you might stay in the same gear. If you are in first and do this at high revs oh you feel like a f*cking tard so practice at low speed at first. Eventually you'll figure your bike out and it will be second nature like a total bad ass when your left arm is swagging shifting gears. Good luck and practice you'll never use your clutch again except in first. GOD Bless you all and be safe because everyone in a vehicle is to relaxed and pampered to give a shit about a motorcyclist working his machine in the elements. The reason these bikes are so fast is to get away from these slolw ass vehicles that want to kill you.Dont get upset when people pull out in front of you or cut you off its not like aware of you its because you aren't in there a minute ago and in a split second you are. I act like its a video game and everyone is out to hit me. Find your emergency exit paths you'll use them more then you think and you wont be as mad when you ride. This has helped me tremendously with riding and everyday life situations too. Example, You are on a blind date and she is a beastly, stinky greasy hog with no personality. you'll find a exit quick or if you dont you might be eaten by pigzilla the hun. i ramble a lot i hope you try everything mentioned and that's it. Bye bye gotta fly, 1 gear down i'm outta town, M.B.M.
I do the exact same. From 1st to 2nd, if i don't nail it perfectly. It's quite startling so I use the clutch only for 1st and 2nd gear.
I've never done it between 1st and 2nd because ive had trouble with slipping into neutral. I'm glad to know it's safe for my transmission though because I always worried that it was bad for it
Yeah, my MV Agusta Brutale jumped in and out from first gear to neutral a few times a few days ago, and it scared the living shit out of me. Pretty scary as the rear wheel went wild. It does not help that the sensitivity of the throttle is extreme on that bike 😮
Just tried clutchless shifting and it felt awesome
And the sound! High revs, blip it in the next gear and it's UNREAL!!
Yes it’s so fun 🥵
At least you got to try it while you’re clutch cable was working (I assume), I had to learn when my cable broke while I was out riding, gotta say, stop lights were not fun lol
Omar S I’ve had it happen I just shut it off at a light
LowSlo 92 yea but you still gotta deal with the same issue when taking off from a stop lol
i just tried this clutchless shifting, and it was awesome, my shifting became smoother and faster.
at first i was afraid that i might damage the gearbox, but now im pretty confident.,
thanks to this wonderful explanation.
I can't believe somebody actually knows what they are talking about. I've been doing this since I'm 15 years old. That's almost 50 years folks. I have had so many arguments with other bikers over the years about this technique that it ain't funny. I just quit talking about it for a long time. Glad somebody has the balls to put it out to the public.
And did you replace bikes often? The wear is there over time and if not consider yourself talented.
Not really. I still have a running bike that I bought new when I was 25 years old. Still runs like a top on the original plug.
Ok. I'll bite. What does that even mean? What's the mileage? This is like folks referring to their 40-50 years of riding experience like they're some kind of authority figure based on THAT when in fact they only rode a couple thousand miles total per year making them not an authority in the full context of their experience!
curvecrazy I haven’t rode as long but I have an old bike it’s a 1980 XS850.... has about 35,000 miles.... I but 15,000 miles on it myself. All without using the clutch to shift. No problems at all. The bike is way more responsive too.
TBull Cajunbreadmaker I also use this technique on bikes and 18 wheelers, "floating gears".Never had any mechanical issues in 27 years driving daily. It makes me think of the practice of using a car tyre on the back of a bike if the rim is wide enough to allow it (darksiders). You get those who swear by it and those who criticise it. At the end you do what works for you and let them do what works for them. It is rather pointless to try and convince those against clutchless shifting.
These MC Garage vids are indispensable! Thanks for making them. And super glad to know my clutchless upshifts are on the mark, not to mention fun.
I am 53 and have been riding all my life. I have always done clutchless gear changes and have never had any gearbox problems with any bike.....
I'm 55, me too.
Same, done clutchless up-shifting for years with no issues :)
As long you do it right...then why not
Hes saying if you have bad timing with the shift and you like feel that "stick" to it and your basically forcing the shift, thats when it can start to put some wear and tear
Independent HAHAHHAA
Thanks for the great explanation! Just done the survey in about 6 minutes. Not a big effort in comparison of what you do for all of us. Good idea to know more about your audiece. Thanks guys! Greets from the other side of the ocean.
Thanks Majes, much appreciated. We're glad you like the show.
Ese majes!!! 😎😎
Que pequeño es el mundo de la moto en TH-cam!
A tirar cambios sin clutch sanos en la cbr majes? :v
Fernando Manetti siempre lo hago pero es interesante saber por qué no es dañino para la caja
What a wonderful example of a video. You formulate a question, set the theme, and, instead of waiting for the end of the vid to answer the question you made earlier, you answer it right along, without bullshit. Never change, guys.
I have only seen a few of these videos, but this guy is very clear, and answers my questions before I ask them. Well done, he doesn't stumble his words with 'uh...um...ya know...'. Highly recommended!
Exact same thought. He does a very good job explaining
You have confirmed what I intuited from riding - This video has completely changed the way I shift - my ride is so much more pleasurable now - thankyou!
Honestly one of the best series that covers almost everything. Simple and good talking. Congrats
I do clutchless up shift on my cbr250r at 6k rpm.... it feels so smooth. I was doubting is it safe or not.... this video cleared my doubt. Thanks for making such awesome videos. 👍
Haha remind me the other day I accidentaly downshifted but it was super smooth, I was surprised it worked then I was worried it actually could damage my transmission, glad I fount this video
Great timing, I was using clutchless shifting both up and down for a while now and this video answered my questions.
Great video.I mastered clutch less up-down shifting almost 15yrs ago in my Suzuki Fiero 150.
Don't forget to shift fast, I mean click it into gear fast because when you do that slow, the geardogs can wear
Vary good point
They'll wear anyway. Give it time and continued clutchless shifting.
Mxrider2stroke Braaap yup my friend always has to skip his 2nd gear because it either pops off or does not come in to gear
nightmare in action nighmare in action Yeah i cant really shift into 2nd either because the shift is too long
And you get a jerk/buck from fuckin hell
I am fine with not winning your prizes, man. The information you provide on videos like this is more than enough for me. I was basically a newbie on the bike and even little problems I take it to the mechanic. But after watching your videos, hell, now I can do half of the work myself.
Survey or no survey I'd like to let you know that I always appreciate your videos.Your professionalism and info are on point all the time. More times than not your videos are where I find the real answers.
Great explanation! I wish this video and others like it would cause this controversy to stop. It's such a simple technique and does not hurt anything. I'm to the point that if anyone disputes the simple fact that clutchless shifting is not harmful, they lose all credibility. The horror stories derived from people that dispute this are only hiding their mechanical issues and operator error.
I love your content, and just filled out the questionnaire even though I live outside of the US - the least I could do after watching all your awesome videos! Especially a fan of maintenance related mc garage and the late "versys 300 vs crf 250 rally" video
Martin Fisker I enjoyed that video as well. Made me think about getting a x300
Same here. Living outside, made the survey and absolutely loved that video. Now I want a x300.
Thanks Martin, we're after all the feedback we can get. We appreciate you taking the time to fill out the survey.
Just started riding.....I feel more confident that I won’t get plowed when taking of from a stop sign using this technique....so glad I tried this👍
You explain things in such a way that it feels so logical and easy to understand.
That Dorso needs a review from you guys! Great video as always!
Awesome! We all appreciate the advice!
You guys are wizards. I was just wondering about clutchless shifting earlier today, and BOOM video is available. Thanks for the tips!
Excellent video. I used to do clutchless shifting with my car. Now I will do it with my bike.
I learned this in driving school. Granted, the rules for driving licences are very different in Norway. We also learn how to safely lane-split, what to look for as signs to what the car drivers will do. We have mandatory 15~20 hours riding with instructors, as well as a driving exam. Still, a good video, with solid information, keep it up!
Same in Ireland, mandatory classes with instructor: theory and practice
Without question, the most informative English speaking channel on motorcycles.
Thanks Rory. Is there a better vid series out there in another language? Lay it on me!
I'm happy to see that they were flooded with responses for their survey and had plenty to shut in down after 2 weeks. Love these guys videos. Need them more, hope they get better backing and more funding. These guys should have a bigger show.
Very useful, must have skill. Once my clutch cable snapped when I was almost home (5km). without any work shop near by, I rode home clutchless. No complications or damage to bike whatsoever.
I watched this 2 hours ago, and when i went for a 5-minute ride to pick up food, i tried it. It felt awesome, on the first trip to the place, i one time tried clutchless shifting without preloading it first, it went perfect. Then on the return i got 1 snag, and preload shifted the rest of the way back. It was amazingly faster and felt amazing to do> THNX MC Garage
I used to do it clutchless on my junker cb250 because it shifted pretty unsmooth with clutch. However on my regular bikes I only do clutchless on hard acceleration.
Please never close ur chanell. U r doing a very good work of removing the myths and ignorance from the minds of riders. The world needs people like you to spread truths.😃I loved your videos
One of the best skills I’ve ever took the time to learn. I recommend it to any rider with a bike capable of doing it.
Try moped bikes or small bikes in southeast asia
I agree that if done correctly, there isn't much wear on hard parts, the problem is that not everyone knows how to shift with the clutch, let alone without it. I have never seen anyone tear up a transmission shifting with the clutch but I have seen quite a few torn up that were subjected to no clutch shifting.
random old dudes : *I've never used clutch for shifting in my entire life.*
clutch : *am i a joke to you ?*
They might have mistaken motorcycle for moped or maybe they stall each time they stop xD
@@MrGeoffrey1998 Or maybe we live in a place where we can really enjoy the bike, like in the mountains, where there is no need to stop every 20 meters!
When I see a rider shifting with the clutch, I immediately assume he/she's a beginner.
Also when you have a dry clutch, it is in your financial interest to keep it the less worn possible. These mofos are not durable at all and expensive to replace :D
@@Haplo59 yup true but it was sarcasm, i mean i know when you don't stop that much you don't need to use the clutch. And yup for dry clutch.
I personally try to quickshift as much as possible with my er6n, the problem is that sometimes the motorcycle really doesn't like it.. at high revs it's really smooth but when going mid low/mid RPM it just doesn't like it x)
Let’s not forget the old generation was afraid of front brake..
Punk ass kids : i know everything!
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Just completed survey. Fingers crossed. Good video once again. Thanks
Love your channel guys! Especially dispelling myths about bike care and such. (Killswitch, WD-40, clutchless shifting etc.)
I use this technique every day when riding hard both up and downshifts. Really helpful when in the twisties. 🔥 However when riding normally or pulling away from a stop I'll use the clutch to shift from 1st to 2nd just because it really sucks when you don't manage to get past N 😂
Clutchless shifting theory can be practiced with the clutch, too, with rev matching. The goal is to NOT have a large CHANGE in engine rpm after releasing (reengaging) the clutch. This “feeling” for rev matching is so-so for up shifting, but you can really feel & appreciate for downshifting. (I find it to be quite satisfying when executed well, to know I am putting less stress on wear components.)
I am from India and did the survey just to help this channel grow because this channel is super awesome and deserve to grow more and more.
we really appreciate these videos Ari :) keep up the quality work!
I've been doing it for 20 plus years and never had a problem, its actually smoother than using the clutch if done right and better for a pillion as you don't jerk the same as with the clutch and guess what/? No more helmet banging!!!
You haven't been shifting very smooth with your clutch then
@@mooiboyace Or his clutch is dog shit lol, that's how my old mazdaspeed protege felt and my XL70 that I'm still riding.
I also do this in dump trucks and 18 wheelers
Yeah, so do I with my truck and I love it.
Because they are not synchronized transmissions. you are the synchronizer. road speed and engine rpm.
Only way to describe driving a teen speed is like a long close ratio box but very short gearing
They are floating gaer transmission they are meant to be able to float gears you shouldn't do this in a synchro trans or a dog box without a proper electronic quickshifter installed
@Mike Kannard wtf are you talking about
Thank you! I asked for this and you delivered!
thank you! i've been waiting for this video for a looonnnggg time!!
I've been clutchless shifting for years. It's great for preventing helmet bumping when you have a pillion during acceleration.....
Or maybe just use the clutch lever like a normal person and have ur idiot pillion keep thier head away from yours dummy. Ever thought about that?
I'm from Malaysia 🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
I've done it before...and hell yeah... everything work fine as fcuk...btw thx for the information given...it helps more to understand what is going on with the transmission n clutch lever
Fakhrul Firdaus wow...!!! The way you curse ,it makes me think that you have no clue the meaning of your name. Thanks..
Super short crisp and complete. Great video. Thanks a tonne
Love your channel. Been riding for years but your tips are inspiring. Thanks. 🇬🇧
I clutchless upshift and down shift my DRZ no problem. Easy bike to do it on. Most bikes are constant mesh transmissions so you won't damage it, and once you get used to it it actually becomes easier because you don't need to worry about the clutch. Plus it's quicker and smoother.
The gear teeth are constant mesh. But the shift dogs aren't. It's only logical that the shift dogs are going to wear more if they are under load when engaging. Shifting without the clutch is one of those things that, yes, certainly can be done, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea. In the long run your transmission will thank you for using the clutch as intended.
@@barryervin8536 thats the thing, it isnt under load when you shift. Letting off the throttle under acceleration is enough to take the load off the trans.
@@barryervin8536 wrong
@@barryervin8536 Then why do the rekluse auto clutches work so well? By your logic shouldn't all these thousands of people running them be having problems?
same here on my DRZ
Very informative!
kermit the frog 'informative' not 'informational'. My advice here is the former.
"informative"
Thanks.... I'm 12.....
Sorry kid..just my ocd
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO! I cant seem to find any video addressing clutchless downshifting and its effects. This video definitely clears my concern. thanks again!!
Great video.A fev months after watching this my cluch cable snaped and i had to us this tehnique.
I've been using clutchless shifts since I started. Ever since my grandfather got me stated on a four wheeler and told me to ignore the clutch lever I've been doing it. I did use the clutch for downshifting at first when I started riding but figured out it was smoother to not use it soon after. All in all follow the video, everything works as stated. I will say, don't go pussy-footing your shifts. Dog-boxes don't take kindly to being treated with weak input. They like deliberate actions. That being said, don't go at it like a 400 lb gorilla, but be deliberate.
I had an R15 for a good amount of time, I always shifted up clutchless to get in front of traffic, never had a problem right to the day I sold it
What happened on the day you sold it? Did the ghost of the clutch come back and haunt you?
What do you mean, the point was it never died
My bike came with quickshifter (up only) and man O man is it a treat. I don't think I'll ever get a bike again that doesn't have one. Love it!
This was an excellent video and super helpful! Thanks!!! All your videos are fabulous. Well done!!!
I wouldnt do 1st to 2nd personally and downshifting is higher risk too but higher gears at speed is smooth on most modern bikes.
I do clutchless upshifting when I do hard pulls for max acceleration. It's fun, easy, and badass. Clutchless upshifts are much faster than regular shifting.
Um no shit
There's one more interesting thing about it: clutchless shifting at higher revs feels easier because we tend to let off the gas a lot, and it's really easier because the rev gap between gears is bigger in higher rpm's - for example, if you shift at 8.000rpm and the engine falls to 7.000rpm (1.000rpm gap), it will only lose 500rpm when you shift at 4.000rpm. So, the lower the revs, the less you have to let off the gas. Thanks for another excellent video, MC!
THANK YOU MC GARAGE and ARI, today after fetching my report card from school, as i was riding away my clutch cable snapped. i turned back and pondered what to do, i tried calling a lift that had a truck but to no avail, then i remembered that i know how to clutchless shift and armed with that knowledge i was able to ride the 10km home with almost no problems cause without a clutch it meant i couldn't stop without shutting off my Bike. Thnx again MCG
Definitely smoother and quicker shifting up and down without clutch, I find if I pre load the lever just slightly in anticipation of rolling off the gas it just slips into the next gear with out any effort at all.
Buttery Smooth☺️
HIGHDEFMOTO its virtual smoothness. the cogs and dogs are stressed af
HIGHDEFMOTO pre loading the gear is a bad idea infact. It could cause unnecessary wear and tear as you're already applying slight pressure into a loaded transmission before taking the load off (releasing the throttle)
In all my years riding I've never had an issue with it.
@@amalkallarackal9293 Because SLIGHT pressure from your left foot is causing more damage than the 150hp fire breathing engine that's trying it's best to rip that little cog in half?
@@rassanity3292 who's giving that slight pressure??? Yes it'll be bad to do that
Just drop the throttle a bit and shift the gear just like you'd do with the clutch....
It's smoother and less jerkier than pulling the clutch and doing it.
Especially if you're at higher revs
Kudos Ari! Could you cover sometime the topic on how long you can ride a supersport in terms of mileage. I often hear that supersports don't last long due to their revvy engines. As an 06 daytona 675 owner i'm curious. Groeten vanuit Holland
arne brouwer I've put 85k+ on a couple sport bikes. Treat them right and they'll work.
I've got just shy of 45k on my 06 CBR600rr, only repair I've made besides basic maintenance was to replace the cam chain tensioner. Some of those are track miles too, and it still doesn't miss a beat
I'm at 80 thousand miles on my 02 ZX9R, its never seen a dealership and has been tuned and maintained by me since 10k miles, sweet as a nut on the original clutch with clutchless up changes from the start, ridden properly, though the output shaft bearing has worn out now so its getting replaced when the weather goes up a few degrees at which point I'll also inspect the change mechanism and transmission for wear.
It really works fine. Now that was something ari thank you. I tried it on my ride and was like blown away by how it shifts!
Another informative video, keep up the good work. I was happy to do the survey.
Spot on. I had to do this the other day when my hydraulic clutch slave cylinder leaked on my st1100. A mechanic told me it knackers the gearbox.. Rubbish. ☺
With all due respect ( and I respect you for your knowledge of roadcraft safety) go and watch Dirty Garage Guy. He demonstrates from an purely mechanical perspective ( more than what is given here in this inadequate video) how clutchless shifting damages the dogs and shift forks. Once you see his videos on Quickshifters and Clutchless shifting, you will never attempt an clutchless shift on your bike ever again. That is of course, if you do not want the costly repairs that will come from the gearbox damage done by clutchless shifting.
@kimw200blaze4 if timed right, it does no damage. Mistiming a clutch change does more damage. Best rule, if it sounds good,it is good.
@@RoadcraftNottingham
It's the accumulative damage that occurs when you clutchless shift. Dirty Garage Guy explains it well. It's got nothing to do with it not sounding right. Go watch his videos on this topic I would suggest. A Quickshifter is completely safe as it cuts the ignition completely and kills completely the RPM load. Clutchless Shifting does not. It lowers the RPM load but that load is going to hit the dogs and shifter fork hard. And then the damage accumulates. I've got nothing more to say.
Looking pretty buff Ari.
Bring back the dreads brah.
Dude, best channel for information! keep it up!
Your videos are fantastic! Thank you for all the information you put out.
I love doing this on my Strom for no reason lol
I've started doing this since I saw this video over a year ago, and boy, my mates were shocked how I was shifting so quickly on the highways 🤣 always leaving them behind.
Perfectly explained! Thanks for this!
As a motorbike lover thank you for all the knowledges.
I know about clutchless shifting. What I can't wrap my head around is all the clueless commentating.
You dah man!! Thanks but no thanks! Clutch all day for me.
hi bro, im from the Philipines and all of your vids are so much reliable to us here in the Phil.
Thanks for the visual on how to clutchless shift. It helps a lot.
I’ve been doing it for ages without knowing that it’s a technique it that it’s called clutchless sifting until I watched this video, proud of myself, but there’s no one here to tell, so I’m writing this comment.
I've done it and know many bikers like to do it but why take the risk of damaging the gearbox (specially downshifting) if we have a good clutch? Thks for another video.
corujariousa
Not sure, but me and pops can't wait till his new ktm rc390 is broken in so we can check out its slipper clutch...
that should add some fun to the ride.
corujariousa It won’t hurt it. However you can hurt the clutches... by using them all the time
Its very satisfying watch MC Garage and learn motocycles funtioning and principles in a simple and fast way.TKS
You guys do a really great job, thanks for sharing!
Sometimes I forget that not everyone grew up beating the shit out of dirt bikes and have to be taught this stuff.
So true, growing up in motocross, it is faster and often necessary on a track. and it just kind of stay with me to street, although in a nicer manner towards the bike.
my first bike had such a stiff clutch lever as an 8 year old it wasnt feasable to clutch every upshift
I always clutched because I wouldn't let off the gas from full throttle while shifting the 85 lol
What he said
What do you do with all that extra time you "save" with shifting so much faster?
beat the M5 you are racing? lol
replace the trans from extended wear
I used to clutchless upshift on my Honda cbr600 cause it was smoother than clutching and as long as I had rolled off the throttle it would change gears with little to no resistance. I don’t know if it did any damage but I would always clutch for downshifts.
It mainly used for racing, when I go full gas I dont use the clutch bc its much faster to not do so
I waited to answer you
Ari, Great info for the up and comers. I just want to thank you for taking the time to answer most of questions imposed on you. You gave me some great advise that is paying dividends today, I appreciate that. After Pirelli Track Day at Laguna in '16, you responded to my questions about the RC 390 but went to say how much you loved the Aprilia that day. I had the opportunity to trade one of my MV F3 800 for a RSV4 RF, I know I got the better end of the stick for sure. Had you not recommended and expressed your appreciation for it, I would stayed true to 2 MV Agusta F4 RC, RR and my 2 1299s'. Its fair to say, that between them all, the Aprilia is an easy ride and give the RC a run for its money at a fraction of the cost. Just wanted to say thanks and keep up the fine work you do. Hard to get solid advise in a world of Alpha Males that drive this sport, as you know, We all (think) we know it all. I stay humble and ask the right people, and when you do, there is a good chance it will match. Ask everyone and it leads to confusion... Rubber side down and thanks for being you! Jerry, Madman Racing
Great video as always. I do all the time down and up shifting with all my motorcycles.
And for those that damage their transmission while doing it wrong let me know in the comment bellow lol
Tomos13 Lol, I did, the drive chain was the first thing noticably affected in my case tho', I had to tighten it up much more frequently doing clutchless shifting on daily basis
Nguyễn Cường you need to oil and clean your chain properly
Petar Boshnakov I do clean my chain rather frequently, particularly once every one or two weeks (tropical area, and I'm on a 150cc bike), I just learnt that with the same cleaning interval, clutchless shift caused more damage than conventional shift
Nguyễn Cường that's very interesting. Is your chain slack like 2 inches because if it is too tight it will stretch prematurely
Petar Boshnakov I knew how to service my chain. But the point is, I was clutchless shifting incorrectly, which put stress on the transmission and eventually damaged it, the drive chain was the most obvious sign
I'm sneaking out tonight at 3am to try this on my dad's new mustang GT.
So i had been experimenting with different gear shifts including clutchless shifting and this is really helpfull thanks a lot !
Great video and very true. When I raced MX, we, (me and everyone else) never used the clutch except on starts for the most part. Never had a gear box issue. And we really hammered those bikes. I still don't use the clutch much on my dirt bike, but always do on my bagger.
I damaged my transmission just by watching this video
Lol
Ditto, and mine doesn't even have a transmission.
well you dident do it right
After I watched this video, my bike blew into pieces
Rebuild watching another video !!
"If your like most people, you use the clutch every time you shift"- the only people that i know that clutch every gear is harley riders
Hardly Ableson :)
@ZX-12R You do unload the gearbox momentarily. When you go from being on the throttle (positive torque) to being on engine braking (negative torque) what happens in the middle?
@Gordon Gekko Wow, you sound like you know what you're talking about.
Excellent video. Thanks.
Did the Survey yesterday, this was great to watch, I did this on my old ‘07 ZX-14 a bit, upshifts we’re actually easy, I couldn’t get downshifts.
I already did that back in driving school
My teacher though it's not good
Preloading the shift lever too often will result in burnt shift forks and gears, not a good practice.
MerlinxPV it’s just to start off
Wrong
Burnt shift forks?
It can be done without preloading,just need proper timing
People seriously think just jabbing it in over preloading is better is just stupid and they ovioslsy don't no how change gear correctly. Yes it can if timed right u can do that more at high rpm
Does TH-cam read my mind or something?
I wanted know this from morning, but didn't get time to search for it.
Now it's in my recommendations.
WOW
As usual a great vid. Thanks for sharing.