🇬🇧 MOTORBIKE TRACK DAYS: BEST, EASIEST AND CHEAPEST WAYS TO RECORD YOUR VIDEOS AND DATAS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- In this episode, I test different ways and products to record your onboard footage and riding datas during motorbike Trackdays. If you thought this was reserved to geeks, too complicated or too expensive, give this a watch you will get a good surprise.
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Man, didn't expect I would get this kind of content with this level of quality from a MotoGP rider himself. That's crazy thank you very much!!!
How impressive to have a MotoGP hero doing videos for us mere mortals. We’re forever grateful!
No wonder i was so happy when you won that Wsbk championship with Aprilia. What a nice guy. Such good informations for track addicts . So easy and well explained.
I have been recording track day on-board since the first Go Pro camera was available back in 2007. They have improved a lot in that time. Only within the last year and a half did I become aware of the high quality sensors in the newer models. I used to have to combine data from a stand alone GPS logger and video. Now that's all done for us. Really great to get the benefit of your experience. Thank you!
Thank you very much Sylvain!! I have a GoPro 7 and didn't knew about the gps function, now i will enable and start comparing the data. You made my day!!
Love all your content you've reminded my how much fun track days are and I'm committed to getting back to the track. Can't wait for more track guidance.
These videos are pure gold, seriously: simple, clear, information on point, nice audio, nice video.
Sylvain, you are a great content creator. Thanks!
Always something to learn.
Merci beaucoup.
Loving all the tips...! I have learned a lot from watching your videos! Keep it going!!
Thank you for the very thorough and well thought out videos. I greatly appreciate them!
Perfect timing, just looking into this for Brands this coming Tues. I was also considering Track addict and Harry’s but after seeing this will try with just using the GoPro Hero 6 and RaceChrono. Many thanks for this and all your other excellent content, really learning loads.
Sylvain, I am really impressed. I truly didn't expect to have such informative and amazing content! Thank you very much! You are the best!
I am now your number one fan. Thanks for all of the tips and for taking the time to explain them so clearly.
Perfect, thank you. Going to use this to analyse my first track experience next week.
HI Sylvain: I've thought of doing this for a while . Your video has shown me how easy is can be! Thanks!
Sylvain, thank you, merci beaucoup!
Great information and insight as always! Thanks Sylvain 👌👌
This is exactly the info I was looking for, cheers Sylvain!
Never done a track day and likely never will, but I still enjoy all of your content.
Quoting a well-known proverb:
"Once you try track you'll never come back."
Using video and apps for trackdays is nice, but it also helps for street riding. I use TrackAddict and it maps out my route pretty well with an iPhone SE if I keep my phone mounted on my dash.
Thank you Sylvain for sharing your knowledge. We are so lucky that you speak English so well and are such a nice guy.
Love the content don't ever stop ♥️
This is brilliant. I was particularly interested in the camera set up and you’ve answered my questions. The safety loop thing is great.
This is really helpful. Thank you Sylvain!
Great tips there Sylvain, keep it coming. Thank you, very much👏
Brilliant content Sylvain.
You have some great future coming up on youtube, man! Thanks again for the amazing content!
Thank you very much for all the tips!
That’s really cool . A very comprehensive video.
Thank you once again Sylvian. Your series of videos is fantastic. I have recorded some footage and now have a lean angle. Just need to get it all packaged up nicely like you demonstrated.
are you using racechrono pro, i use it and i have lean angle in it too. planning to switch to the third option gopro and then expor to race chrono just the fact that i have hero 6 black so not sure if it can record the lean angle also.
Hi Sylvain, thank you for such a detailed overview of ways to record your lap times and video your track days, your a wealth of information and thank you for sharing - ride safe regards Mario
Perfect that Sylvain, really helpful.
excellent, excellent information. This may be the best TH-cam channel for riding tips and improvements. Thank you
Great video, You are spot on about track day sessions being busy when your group is up. Ive been using the Speed Angle lap timer, ease of use is what sold me. You just switch it on and it does the rest.
Cracking video Sylvain - didn’t even realise you did this stuff on TH-cam. I’ve just bought another track bike having been off the track for a while now, and thought I needed something like an Aim Solo 2 just to log the data. Didn’t even realise my multiple GoPro’s could do it! Thanks for the info dude. Legend 👊🏻
Great video very informative thanks
Excellent. Really informative
Fantastic. Thank you
Really loving the content!!! Thank you so much for these videos. May we have one about the off the bike preparation? I’ve always been curious what the training regimen and diet is like.
Top tips and quality channel, merci sylvain!! J’ai bien telechargé les apps!
Very informative video..! Thank you very much.
Best motorcycle channel on YT. Thank you!
Thankyou. I've booked my first Donington trackday for Sept 3rd and have been literally just figuring out how to go about the telemetry so both your videos have helped alot. Looks like I'm getting a Go pro! P.s if you run out of ideas and want to do a suspension setup video for track or track vs road adjustments I'm all ears 😁 Will definitely remember to heavy brake and downshift quickly but think my next biggest improvement would be in dialling in the perfect f&r rebound and compression
I was using Harry's Laptimer but will be switching to Racechrono Pro.
Thank you Sylvain for all your inside knowledge.
what a great content, i love it.
4:55 this is so true. you must be prepared
Great video keep up the great content
You are the man Sylvain!! Love your videos, what a privilege to learn from your videos. Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦. Not sure about anyone else but I prefer the straight on camera view, not so much the 360 rotating views.
Such a top bloke!
Great video, I have the gopro hero 7 black and I have wanted to purchase racechrono pro but always thought that I would have to record the data separately and then link them together, I didn’t know that it could use the data from the gopro, thank you Sylvain!
I have the same Hero7 black. Works great with RaceChronoPro, just upload your file from your photo app, job done ✅
Exatly same here. I always thought I need to record data separately
jorgoshki nope, just make sure the GPS feature is turned ON and that’s it. All in 1
I bought racechrono pro and tried it on some footage from my last evening at Cadwell and it worked, the signal isn’t the best at Cadwell though so there were a few laps where I appeared to cut the track in half, great app though, I hope they’re giving you commission 😂
Thanks Sylvain! Your videos are great. Probably in 2 weeks I get to ride kymiring for the first time. I was watching that first testday last year, that rainy one 😆
Great content 🤟🏼😎👍🏼
Hello Sylvian. I have good results with the Garmin VIRB camera. Is has several overlays in the software when editing the video.
My Garmin Virb XE is recording GPS data with 1Hz. The newer model VIRB 360 is 10Hz.
Great content as always! Thanks very much for this. I've booked a track day at Donnington and the policy mentions no recording unless pre authorised. Not sure how strictly they hold to this?
I have GoPro 7 and 8 black, but I always have problem to get a decent GPS data from GoPro. It's either jumping around or missing data, so the 18hz update ratio means nothing to me. Use a phone to run RaceChrono with XGPS 160 is much stable and accurate option for me.
merci Sylvain!
Awesome world Championship tips 🏆🛵
You got a toolkit!? That's a factory rider perk, nobody else gets one! 😉😂🤣
Thanks for all the great uploads sylvain! I picked up my 2020 gsxr 1000r in the moto gp blue a couple weeks ago And i had to grab your replica shark race r pro carbon helmet to match. It looks so sweet together, you have amazing taste mr. Guintoli! Now only if i could ride the bike 10% of what u can😅
I simply incredible that a MotoGP rider and a WorldSBK champion come to us, mortals, an do these kind of videos.
Thanks for this tip. Never know about IT. Now I have a 18hz Laptime :)
Belo custo benefício tenho uma Suzuki é demais mesmo.
I'm a new sub - what a great channel find! Coming from a guy with a weird accent myself, who taught you English? - I hear Cockney in there but some northern words creeping in too - missing vowels, v's for t's - it's amazing - love it :-)
Nice video👍
Is there any chance of an update to this video to look at full data logging (throttle position, etc) and using that data? My bike has the latest Ducati DDA+ GPS but it cannot export as CSV so it cannot be used for video overlays, so I was wondering about options for getting full data. It would be really useful for me to be able to see on a video when I am really fully open with the throttle, braking, etc.
Nice footage from your bike, how are you mounting (location on the bike) your goPro ? Thanks for the very informative video!
Great Video mate, any updates have you try GoPro 10 ?
Thank you for this very helpful video! Any reason why you chose the hero 8 versus 9, or was the 9 just not available at thr time of recording? I’ve read some gps issues with the 9, but now it’s supposed to be resolved.
Another to consider is the Vbox Sport which has fast GPS and data logging to SD card. There area many apps, and PC analysis too. www.vboxmotorsport.co.uk/index.php/en/products/performance-meters/vbox-sport
Have fun..
Just regarding phone GPS, it's not about the frequency but the number of frequencies supported. Typically this has only been a single band which leads to multipath errors, ie not particularly accurate. Some phones now support dual-band GPS which makes them much more accurate, down to centimeters in most cases.
Great video
How much fork did you drop in clamps? Should I run forks with more front end? Did you shim the rear shock to raise rear ride height?
Hey Sylvain...great tutorials....as always! Can I ask, if you had the option, would you have another GPS data logger (Qstarz for example) as well as the GoPro Hero 8 Black? I have the Hero 8 Black & have no confidence with the data (or lack of) back from a trackday I did at Brands & Estoril last year! The video quality is great, but the data is zero! Very disappointed with GoPro...hence the question of using Qstarz BL-1000GT BLE. Thanks again....oh, great feedback from the pitlane at Barcelona! A natural with the microphone!
Merci Sylvain pourrais tu nous montrer comment faire les courbes pour analyser plusieurs tours sur le même graphique stp ? Avec quel logiciel pouvons nous le faire ?
@Sylvain Best thing since Netflix. Just binge-watched all your english content. I think a video catered to those with older bikes without or with very little technology like TCS, Quickshifters or auto-blippers could be quite interesting as well! Just a pure man vs. machine situation.
In a previous video you mentioned how important it is to downshift as you brake before you roll off the throttle at the same time. I would have to be operating the clutch too with my 04 zx6r (no slipper clutch).Normally I try to rev-match when riding, but I guess I should skip rev-matching when gearing down aggressively right? Someone else maybe?
Thanks!
Great video! But I would like to see video about how to understand and compare data.
Thanks for the video! I was looking for this specifically. Question, if I run 2 different GoPros on the bike at the same time (with GPS ON) can I use this date overlay on top of both of the video's footage? Thanks!
Thanks for this SG,
Is there a simple way to get telemetry data of throttle and braking into the videos also?
I picked up a vbox sport which is good when you load to the software on a laptop
You know what would be really cool... if we could get a high resolution view of the track map, and overlay that with the actual line that the rider is taking around the track. I think it would be possible to do this if you combine the GPS data and the video file, and use computer vision and deep learning to identify the position of the bike relative to the edges of the track. I think it would be a very good tool for training.
Hi Sylvain. Two questions. 1. May I ask the best way to keep your one piece leathers fresh and not smelly after a track day? 2. Can you do a theory video on what professional racers are taught for emergency technique for both high side and low side at track if it becomes unavoidable. Example, tuck in your arms...
thats so nice of you to take out the time and make such videos for us. just a question when recording the session using go-pro do i need to data logging with race chrono as well or the data in gopro Hero is enough. in my case i am using a gopro hero 6 black and i am interesting in not to loose out the lean angle that race chrono pro logs
No need to have your phone onboard to record, just the GoPro with GPS ON. Then upload the file onto RCP. Lean angle is recorded by the GoPro itself 👍🏻
So if you want to use the gopro and racechrono you just record the sessions with the gopro and then open the app on the phone and do Import-> go pro sensor data or import-> raw video?
I can recommend this Application with GoPro8 black "GoPro Race Technology V10". It costs around 50 Euros per Device on where you install the Application and it is limited to GoPro devices but with all the Analysis and overlay Features.
Great video. Sound is low. Thanks for posting.
How do you measure the lean angle and engine rpms and connect these sensors? Where do you connect these sensors? Thanks, great video!
For cars you need some OBD 2 diagnosis device connected to Ecu through OBD port. Never had any bike but i guess bikes have something similar.
Awesome video - so much appreciation for the good content. First track day of the season at Road America next week. Question:
Does the GPS in a Hero5 Black work for lap telemetry/timing? Has the GPS quality improved with different GoPro models?
Yes Hero5 black has GPS function. 18hz. Same as 7black or 8black 👍🏻
@@SylvainGuintoli Thank you so much. I had great results following your advice. This was my first time riding this bike as I just bought it, and I'd never Road America, so my pace is pretty terrible, but will be working to get faster as I get comfortable on the new (to me) bike and learn the track. Thanks again for all the great content. th-cam.com/video/1z5Gh1zHGMw/w-d-xo.html&
Hi there! Thanks for sharing! Question, what is your source for the 18hertz claim for the GoPro Heros 7 onwards? I found that the refresh rate is only 10hz. Thanks!!!
Where are the readings for lean angle, throttle percentage and brake application percentage taken from? Racechrono pro with a hero 9
Very informative thanks! What would people recommend for instant lap timing??🤔
Not tried any on my GSX-R. This issue is that lap timing is not allowed on track days. In Motogp most Teams use 2D.
I would suggest Vbox Sport with iPhone app for display of current and predictive lap times. Race logic are serious engineers so make good kit.
Bear in mind that many circuits have different insurance for race or track days so may not allow timing equipment. Obviously phone screens could be off when you see the marshals or scrutineer...
Good quality mounts with backup are a must, just as Sylvain shows.
Love from India
With the GoPro set up how do you check your current lap time while your at the track? The app would give you this data straight away no?
Nice video, thanks. I currently use Harry's lap timer with an Android phone and an OBDLinkMX. I like the OBD because it means my data has revs, gears and engine temp as well as speed etc any idea if you can use the OBD with a Gopro? I would love that
Harry’s is good but doesn’t support GoPro GPS import. So you have different solutions here:
1/Use Harry’s + OBD + external GPS like XGPS160 or Garmin GLO (to get good quality gps datas) + GoPro or any other action cam. Then you can sync your data and footage on the app.
2/Use RaceChrono Pro with OBD and GoPro. RaceChrono supports GoPro Mp4 files AND gps datas from the GoPro so no need for external gps.
3/ TrackdayGenius also supports GoPro Mp4 and GPS files import.
Bonjour un bon vieux alfano comme à l époque !!!!!!!
Hello Sylvain! Do you have laptimes/data around Assen (around 01:40) with the GSXR1000?
what settings do you use to record?
Does anyone knows the sampling rate of the hero black 5 gps?
@Sylvain Guintoli. I have heard the phrase "always on the gas or always on the brakes, never coasting" This makes me wonder as I have previously been told on tuition days coming off of a straight into a long sweeping right hander (Donnington) to build up all my speed on the straight and to come off the throttle going through the bend in order to get the bike to drop and get my knee down and then back on the gas as soon as possible to drive out. I was told this as I was previously continuing to accelerate through this corner and was unable to get my knee down as that action was causing the bike to stand up. My question is, is the advice I was told about coming off the throttle through the corner with no brakes correct as this would be coasting I suppose?
Hope this makes sense.
Thanks
And with the same point at Melbourne, should I always have either brakes on coming into the corner and then transition into some positive (if small) amount of throttle, or should the braking all be done and then as with the previous advice I was given come off of both lean into the bend without either and then pick up the throttle as soon as possible to drive out?
Does this work on insta 360 x2 as well? for the GPS telemetry.
Goodevening Sylvain
I would like know if you use the software "GoPro only" by Race Technology for your analysis.
Thank you
Yes, I have used it in the past. Worked very well
I can’t seem to figure out how to do this data overlay with just using the go pro? I have to have my phone as well to match the session time on my phone with go pro footage, which isn’t very accurate
Great vid, does anyone know of a website where you can do what this two apps create (overlay of speedometer, inclination and whatnot ???) my GoPro 10 splits my 20 min session in two separate videos
The number of video files created by the GoPro doesn’t matter. Once they are uploaded to the RaceChrono app, the app will transcode everything (video footage and data overlay) into a new video file which can then be uploaded direct to TH-cam or whatever.
i'm confused. i use racechrono pro on my phone as a laptimer but the video seems to be saying it is a video rendering app as well. i'm on windows 10. quick search of google doesn't seem to support this?
What about dedicated devices like the Aim Solo 2, Sylvain ? It's 10 Hz and gives you realtime feedback, displaying your splits or predicitve times
Yes that’s a good system, as well as 2D but more aimed at racing. Lap timing is not permitted in UK for trackdays. It’s also quite a bit more expensive than the options presented here.
@@SylvainGuintoli Sylvain, t'as des abonnés du monde entier ;-)
I find the predictive lap to be the most useful piece of information one can get on the bike (on in the car) while riding: every time you try something new, you can see if it's beneficial or not