I like how the movie does the much more realistic route compared to the TV Anime, where the JSDF actually stops it on their own rather than the Patlabor unit stopping it.
In fact, the fight here is pretty much the JSDF doing what they did in the series, except they succeed. The gunships' attack run goes from being completely useless to destroying the mech's hover unit, and the ambush in the forest actually brings it down, while in the series... I think they didn't even hit it. It's nice to see the military being competent and heroic at the same time for once ! Especially when they have such cool vehicles.
My only beef is that when i saw this as a kid on vhs i kinda realised that 'battle mechs' are kinda dumb and pointless, more vunerable than a tank and a lot of resource consuming. Meanwhile seeing how much it took to take down that labor thing is absurd. The Ukraine war has helped removed any misconceptions and i've been surprised to see SPGs (which appear to have armor but infact dont) getting strifed by machine guns and are completely disabled. If they fired that much ordiance into that thing, you'd find a couple of burnt crab legs the next day and nothing else, one shot from an autocannon or whatever those robots are using and that thing would be out of action and probably cooking off its own ammo. We can assune this is happening on jsdf gunnary range around Yamanashi, very steep hills. I cant imagine a legged tank thing, even if it was as nimble as a light scout vehicle (such as the german Wiesel, which can operate in woodland) I just think those legs are dumb as hell and it would quickly get stuck.
Loved the movie, but there's one thing that bugs me. Why would they transport a combat mecha fully loaded with ammo? Other than that, a very good anime that has a fine balance of comedy, action, and drama. 30 years on, it is still one the best.
在TV里用AV-98拦截最后被徒手解决掉的机器人居然在剧场版里这么厉害··· (In the TV series they only intercepted this thing with Tokyo Metropolitan Police's AV-98 and eventually put it down with an officer climbed into it...)
You can see there is a back observation room on the plane in the next picture, so actually, they didn't get it wrong, just a little bit against the intuition. I guess the room is used for checking the dropping area.
@@kyosukearashi3523that’s right, but the aircraft is still moving backwards relative to the terrain. The only explanation I can think of, is the “terrain” isn’t actually terrain but fast moving clouds.
Definitely! I am Japanese and have seen all the TV series, the film version and the MANGA version, but I feel very uncomfortable with the 'versions with different voices and sound effects' that are being sold these days. This is because it feels too emotionally different from the voices of the voice actors who were acting in the film when it was first released in cinemas, and it feels like a different interpretation is possible. In this scene, for example, the voice acting of the JGSDF soldiers and NCOs expressing the tension of the JGSDF soldiers and NCOs expressing that they had received 'real combat orders' to destroy the fleeing prototype combat LABOR in battle was ruined. They did not know that the red prototype combat LABOR was unmanned, which is why their acting to show the tension of using weapons against human opponents was excellent.
Laziness on the developers end. It's cheaper and easier to work with software than by hand. Unlimited space on computers vs. being limited by physical media. The talent is missing.
not that I don't love mechas. but I consider that military vehicles with such a big profile are easy targets for even WWII tanks, ... this could be solved if the stealth technology used in the mecha would solve the problem...but then again I think maintaining a mecha based mechanized unit would be a logistical nightmare in a world that " uses tank warfare". For mecha to be usefull in this century they should be more compact and cost effective, or turn into something much like the doom armor, the halo armor, or the space marine armor from starcraft. To be relatively useful it should have quick options of mobility for all kinds of terrain so it wont lag behind friendly units.
What you are describing is what we call 'power armor'... although some units get into what is called 'mini-mecha' range. However, if you want a universe or two that depicts mecha/mechs with a high degree of realism, then go for the Front Mission franchise and the 'Song of Ice and Fire IN SPACE' that is the Battletech universe. Front Mission 'Wanzers' (the mecha in the series) tend to be heavy IFV grade at best and will almost be outmatched against tanks in the vast majority of the franchise. Battletech has a rather interesting dynamic between 'mechs (short for Battlemechs) and conventional systems. Much of Battletech takes place in what is essentially a space version of the post-apocalypse where the main factions' stockpiling led to most of the industrial capacity being quite literally nuked from orbit (with a few planets getting the good old carpet NUKING treatment) in the First and Second Succession War with the Third and FOURTH happening a while after. The Battlemech is king, yes, but it isn't undisputed. The Battlemech is King, artillery is Queen, and Combined Arms is GOD. Every Battlemech is designed on the assumption of being part of a combined arms formation. Hell Battlemechs are less mecha and more like walking tanks with a primary armament (which is usually mounted in pairs, trios, or quads due to quirks of the armor rules), a secondary armament (usually something on the order of Medium Lasers for many of them), and an anti-infantry option (which usually consists of MGs in gattling configuration using calibers ranging from 12.7mm to 40mm with the most common calibers being somewhere in the 20-30mm range... oh and these things tend to kill half a squad on average, with entire squads being wiped out on a good one).
I have to agree with your depiction of a realistic mech since I'm also familiar with those, but to be blunt and honest, I also love these kinds of military bipedal vehicles of war.. one of my favorite ones are the scope dogs from the anime " VOTOMS " and the Leo mobile suit, but I have to admit that "battle tech" or maybe even the " exo squad" have some of the most realistic mechs that I can think of.
Diogo Santos you realize that tanks ARE the mainstay for armor in this series as well, right? Also, the mecha in this show aren't as large as they look. The military versions are smaller than the police ones, though this is hard to tell in this scene. They're pretty much as small as can be, and still be piloted in a cockpit rather than being over-sized power armor. Furthermore their role is more of a heavy infantry/IFV mix rather than one for armor. Their armor is built more for protection against small-arms, artillery fragments, and light cannon than any serious anti-armor weaponry, and as soon as they face anything more than what I just mentioned, they die.
Battletech, realistic? PFFFFFT hahahahahah! Oh, you're serious, let me laugh harder. HAHAHAHA! I'm sorry, but Battletech is less realistic than VOTOMS or Patlabor. By a large margin. First of all let's go to the elephant in the room and mention how Battlemechs in the Battletech universe are almost universally larger than the military Labors, while trying to do the same job as tanks, which are actually much more cost-efficient and plain better at doing the jobs they do. In the Patlabor universe however, military and police labors are smaller and much lighter, while also performing more of a heavy infantry support role, or a paratrooper armor role.
Sigh, please avoid sarcastic cocky remarks, nobody is perfect much less your " make fun of" comments. I was just giving my opinion not to awaken a troll of the internet, just because I think batletech "mech " movements are more realistic than platabor in some ways.
One of units that belongs to JSDF was hijacked by hostile software and this unit escaped from JSDF's experimental base and the paratroopers were sent to stop that unit.
@@SpheroJr3289 The 'hostile' software I mentioned earlier was supposed to be the next Operating System. According to this film, this new OS is extremely superior to current OS but it got one unique 'feature'. If the Mech heard a frequency, silent to the human but not to the machine, it will switch from normal Mech to suicidal, destructive Mech. Hypothetically, if all the Mech that works in the city heard this frequency and gone rogue, it will destroy the city.
I like how the movie does the much more realistic route compared to the TV Anime, where the JSDF actually stops it on their own rather than the Patlabor unit stopping it.
In fact, the fight here is pretty much the JSDF doing what they did in the series, except they succeed. The gunships' attack run goes from being completely useless to destroying the mech's hover unit, and the ambush in the forest actually brings it down, while in the series... I think they didn't even hit it.
It's nice to see the military being competent and heroic at the same time for once ! Especially when they have such cool vehicles.
My only beef is that when i saw this as a kid on vhs i kinda realised that 'battle mechs' are kinda dumb and pointless, more vunerable than a tank and a lot of resource consuming.
Meanwhile seeing how much it took to take down that labor thing is absurd. The Ukraine war has helped removed any misconceptions and i've been surprised to see SPGs (which appear to have armor but infact dont) getting strifed by machine guns and are completely disabled.
If they fired that much ordiance into that thing, you'd find a couple of burnt crab legs the next day and nothing else, one shot from an autocannon or whatever those robots are using and that thing would be out of action and probably cooking off its own ammo.
We can assune this is happening on jsdf gunnary range around Yamanashi, very steep hills.
I cant imagine a legged tank thing, even if it was as nimble as a light scout vehicle (such as the german Wiesel, which can operate in woodland) I just think those legs are dumb as hell and it would quickly get stuck.
@@olivere5497but it's looks cool 😂, honestly i agree with you
@@iliadx7495 helluva cool
Government : "Oi mate , You have license for that mech?"
Criminal : "No?"
Government :
04:03 - 04:30 That poor red spider mech just received "Sonny Corleone Treatment" by the military dudes
オリジナルの音声バージョンだ。やっと見つけた。
Loved the movie, but there's one thing that bugs me. Why would they transport a combat mecha fully loaded with ammo?
Other than that, a very good anime that has a fine balance of comedy, action, and drama. 30 years on, it is still one the best.
as explained in the movie, they were testing the HAL X-10. to test it, I recon they need to load it a bit.
I think it could have been an assault landing. Assault landing of Infantry Fighting Vehicles from the sea or sky is carried out in full combat gear.
在TV里用AV-98拦截最后被徒手解决掉的机器人居然在剧场版里这么厉害···
(In the TV series they only intercepted this thing with Tokyo Metropolitan Police's AV-98 and eventually put it down with an officer climbed into it...)
tv版明显放水给98式，我记得是放了几炮都没打中，98不打赢的话，一集结束不了啊。
@@chris42076301
駕駛的技術也有差,tv版的是sb恐怖份子,電影版是軍用ai.....
zining wang 可以升级os的，毕竟体能一样的两个人一个智商50一个200的话战斗力就不一样了
AV-X0是軍用機頂級規格出力偽裝成民用機
@@爱因酒井 I think if a person with a low IQ has better combat tactical training, the odds will even out against a person with a 200 IQ.
1:40 I think they got the aircraft’s direction of travel wrong
Once you see it, you cant unsee it😢
You can see there is a back observation room on the plane in the next picture, so actually, they didn't get it wrong, just a little bit against the intuition. I guess the room is used for checking the dropping area.
@@kyosukearashi3523that’s right, but the aircraft is still moving backwards relative to the terrain. The only explanation I can think of, is the “terrain” isn’t actually terrain but fast moving clouds.
I like the old one better than the remastered sound.
Definitely!
I am Japanese and have seen all the TV series, the film version and the MANGA version, but I feel very uncomfortable with the 'versions with different voices and sound effects' that are being sold these days. This is because it feels too emotionally different from the voices of the voice actors who were acting in the film when it was first released in cinemas, and it feels like a different interpretation is possible.
In this scene, for example, the voice acting of the JGSDF soldiers and NCOs expressing the tension of the JGSDF soldiers and NCOs expressing that they had received 'real combat orders' to destroy the fleeing prototype combat LABOR in battle was ruined. They did not know that the red prototype combat LABOR was unmanned, which is why their acting to show the tension of using weapons against human opponents was excellent.
1989年能做到这份上，现在的动画都干什么去了
做這個不賺錢吃力不討好
結案
@@q1234635 所以艺术还是要靠甲方砸钱
做3D成本較省，現在做2D動畫沒賺頭
Fate
Laziness on the developers end. It's cheaper and easier to work with software than by hand. Unlimited space on computers vs. being limited by physical media. The talent is missing.
1:41
何回も見てるけど降下するヘルダイバーに2人しがみついてるの初めて気づいた
降下用の装備だとずっと思ってました。
Anime: Japan Does it with Giant Robots
Real life: Russia Airdropping tanks.
these bad boys are the inspiration of my user name
Are you sure it isn't the video game?
Which bad boys?
@@paleoph6168 been using this name for 10+ years. way before the game came out.
@@olivere5497 those military labors.
@@h3lldiv3r are they called that in the cannon?
3:15 that reminds me of the transformers movie (the first 1), something about it just seems really similar
not that I don't love mechas. but I consider that military vehicles with such a big profile are easy targets for even WWII tanks, ... this could be solved if the stealth technology used in the mecha would solve the problem...but then again I think maintaining a mecha based mechanized unit would be a logistical nightmare in a world that " uses tank warfare".
For mecha to be usefull in this century they should be more compact and cost effective, or turn into something much like the doom armor, the halo armor, or the space marine armor from starcraft.
To be relatively useful it should have quick options of mobility for all kinds of terrain so it wont lag behind friendly units.
What you are describing is what we call 'power armor'... although some units get into what is called 'mini-mecha' range.
However, if you want a universe or two that depicts mecha/mechs with a high degree of realism, then go for the Front Mission franchise and the 'Song of Ice and Fire IN SPACE' that is the Battletech universe.
Front Mission 'Wanzers' (the mecha in the series) tend to be heavy IFV grade at best and will almost be outmatched against tanks in the vast majority of the franchise.
Battletech has a rather interesting dynamic between 'mechs (short for Battlemechs) and conventional systems. Much of Battletech takes place in what is essentially a space version of the post-apocalypse where the main factions' stockpiling led to most of the industrial capacity being quite literally nuked from orbit (with a few planets getting the good old carpet NUKING treatment) in the First and Second Succession War with the Third and FOURTH happening a while after. The Battlemech is king, yes, but it isn't undisputed. The Battlemech is King, artillery is Queen, and Combined Arms is GOD. Every Battlemech is designed on the assumption of being part of a combined arms formation. Hell Battlemechs are less mecha and more like walking tanks with a primary armament (which is usually mounted in pairs, trios, or quads due to quirks of the armor rules), a secondary armament (usually something on the order of Medium Lasers for many of them), and an anti-infantry option (which usually consists of MGs in gattling configuration using calibers ranging from 12.7mm to 40mm with the most common calibers being somewhere in the 20-30mm range... oh and these things tend to kill half a squad on average, with entire squads being wiped out on a good one).
I have to agree with your depiction of a realistic mech since I'm also familiar with those, but to be blunt and honest, I also love these kinds of military bipedal vehicles of war.. one of my favorite ones are the scope dogs from the anime " VOTOMS " and the Leo mobile suit, but I have to admit that "battle tech" or maybe even the " exo squad" have some of the most realistic mechs that I can think of.
Diogo Santos you realize that tanks ARE the mainstay for armor in this series as well, right? Also, the mecha in this show aren't as large as they look. The military versions are smaller than the police ones, though this is hard to tell in this scene. They're pretty much as small as can be, and still be piloted in a cockpit rather than being over-sized power armor.
Furthermore their role is more of a heavy infantry/IFV mix rather than one for armor. Their armor is built more for protection against small-arms, artillery fragments, and light cannon than any serious anti-armor weaponry, and as soon as they face anything more than what I just mentioned, they die.
Battletech, realistic? PFFFFFT hahahahahah! Oh, you're serious, let me laugh harder. HAHAHAHA!
I'm sorry, but Battletech is less realistic than VOTOMS or Patlabor. By a large margin. First of all let's go to the elephant in the room and mention how Battlemechs in the Battletech universe are almost universally larger than the military Labors, while trying to do the same job as tanks, which are actually much more cost-efficient and plain better at doing the jobs they do. In the Patlabor universe however, military and police labors are smaller and much lighter, while also performing more of a heavy infantry support role, or a paratrooper armor role.
Sigh, please avoid sarcastic cocky remarks, nobody is perfect much less your " make fun of" comments.
I was just giving my opinion not to awaken a troll of the internet, just because I think batletech "mech " movements are more realistic than platabor in some ways.
There’s a few small errors in the animation but overall this was really well done
了不起
やつぱりオリジナルは良いなぁと再認識。👍
やっぱ音響はリメイク版よりも初代のこれですね（＾＾）
Where can I watch this movie in full version?
35年前のアニメとは思えん
見た時はシビれたねw
押井守 作品作って欲しい
yeah I remember this from world war two
Epilepsy Warning should be put in place....
not really. usually, a rapid sequence of blue and red light, even mixed with yellow, is what triggers epilepsy.
You could pretty much give a general warning about nearly every 80/90s anime
@@Jon.A.Scholtwas it digimon or pokemon which actually did that?
Are they at war with the soviets or the mericans??
One of units that belongs to JSDF was hijacked by hostile software and this unit escaped from JSDF's experimental base and the paratroopers were sent to stop that unit.
Oooooo
So it was just an experimental 4 legged wheeled mech
What’s with the suicide too?
@@SpheroJr3289 The 'hostile' software I mentioned earlier was supposed to be the next Operating System. According to this film, this new OS is extremely superior to current OS but it got one unique 'feature'. If the Mech heard a frequency, silent to the human but not to the machine, it will switch from normal Mech to suicidal, destructive Mech. Hypothetically, if all the Mech that works in the city heard this frequency and gone rogue, it will destroy the city.
留名。
dab on em
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