You did a really good job with this, thanks for detailed instuctions, im looking to convert my wrr as well right now, just saving up for wheels/tyres :D
Awesome video!!! Thank you so much. You explained so clearly at the perfect pace, and had great camera work and lighting. I now feel confident to do this to my WR because of your video. Thanks Legend.
Thanks TM, I learnt a lot watching your video, you're a good teacher, very clear instructions. I'm about to buy a new 250R but never thought of converting it like that. Now I'm thinking it'd be a great idea - save my knobbies for when I do long trips.
thanks for the video. have been wanting to do this since I first bought my 2012. I looked for a year for an X model, but there were none close to me at all! I was thinking of getting the hubs in red to add some contrast to all the blue. just worried it will look kinda funny.
Agreed, about to put my SM wheels on this weekend. I know I have a 22mm, now I can check for and order a 27mm if I need it and be ready. Very well done.
Great vid, very clear and interresting other swaps ideas 👍 Best supermoto wheels swap out there. Interesting you fit break clamp with cable going inside the fork, I watch others move cable to the outside. I suppose new fork gards do the trick, excellent idea! Q?: Did you have your front suspensions and rear shock upgraded ? Thank you and great job 👍
Great video! I’m interested in knowing if once the fork guards / brake cable mod is done for the super moto tires if they need to be removed/ replaced with the stock guards should I wish to go back to the dirt tires for a weekend trip?
@@DavesSmallEngines the kickstand if you also bought the shorter one and as long as you are using the same size sprockets you can leave the chain alone. If you are using a speedohealer switch to the other setting and calibrate for the smaller tires. I have setting A for dirt, setting B for SM tires
I never thought about just buying WR250X fork guards, that's a good idea as when you get to the point where you want to sell the bike you can restore it to stock and make a little more cash selling the Sumo kit individually. I was wondering where you purchased the warp 9's from ? If you order it from their site will it come with everything ? Also if you are installing the 320mm front rotor is there anything else you need to do during the process ? I still haven't watched the whole video yet so sorry if you have already answered the questions !
you seem like a guy that knows the answer to this: how can I lift the rear up? the tail, I need it higher, like...is there a longer shock I can buy? or should I solder a support for the bottom of the shock hook?
I would not do anything beyond maxing out the factory adjustment for shock height on the bottom clevis. Any more than that will change the geometry of the bike and affect handling.
There is a preload adjustment which is the amount of tension on the spring for your weight which you use for the ride height when loaded, not to raise or lower the seat height. For that there is a bolt on the bottom of the shock shaft which mounts the clevis to the linkage. This changes the static length of the shock. It does not change travel, rather the seat height. I believe it adjustment range is 1".
Great video. Question: When putting warp 9 sumo wheels on my wrr, will the stock front brake bracket work? I want to run it through the inside and I plan on getting wrx fork guards. Will my brake bracket just transfer right over to the wrx fork guards? Edit: My bad, just realized you did use the same bracket. But if that's the case, why do I see so many people running the brake line to the outside? I also see the zeta straight bracket... what's the point of all that?
if you do not have the "X" model fork guards you need the straight zeta bracket so you can run the brake hose on the outside of the guard to clear the tire. The stock bracket is curved to the inside which makes it impossible to run the cable on the outside if you had to.
at the part in the video where the rear wheel gave you a pain, can you give any tips to make the process easier ? my Warp 9's just got here, so will be installing in the next few days. appreciate your help
well, its patience to slip the fatter tire in between the swingarm, chain guide and caliper the right way so it goes smoothly. I have done it no issue many times except when making a video of course. Just finesse the tire in at an angle between the chain guard and the inside of the swingarm and avoid knocking the caliper sideways and jamming it up. That's where I fouled it up. Be careful on the caliper side not to scratch the rim on it.
hi, they are made by a company called zero-g. Wheeling cycle supply in WV used to import them from Japan but no more. I don't think you can get them any longer.
hi to all! can any1 tell me if it's possible to swap wr125x stock wheels to make a wr250r turn to sm ? about rotor sizes and other things, if u got experiences , would love to hear from you :)
any Yamaha parts dealer. Fork Guards Yamaha OEM for 2011 model year and prior WR250X left side OEM pn# 3D7-2315H-00-00 (Fork) PROTECTOR 1 right side OEM pn# 3D7-2315J-00-00 (Fork) PROTECTOR 2
Doing my due diligence in looking for tire size you went with. Are you using a 140 or 150 rear. If 150/60/17 any issues with chain rub etc. Thx great vid 🤘🏼
sorry for the delayed response. Tire size on the rear is 160\60-17. There is no chain rub until the chain is very worn and side to side play is excessive. I would say its a non-issue.
Hi, with the supermoto wheels on what is the seat height approx? I sat on a WR250x the other day and I was surprised I was able to put both feet down flat almost both sides. Thanks,
What year is your wr? Sorry kept replaying it did you say it’s a 2008? That’s exactly the bike I just found on Craigslist pray everything works out and she’s mine 🙏❤️
You wouldn't happen to know which Fork guards I would need for my 2017 wr250r, would you? I can't seem to find any as I'm trying to avoid cutting down the ones that came with the bike
yep, order these from your local Yamaha dealer: left side OEM pn# 3D7-2315H-00-00 (Fork) PROTECTOR 1 right side OEM pn# 3D7-2315J-00-00 (Fork) PROTECTOR 2
did you use the stock spacers? I bought Warp 9 rims. The stock spacers and axle rod doesn't seem to fit. Does Warp 9 sell spacers that'll fit their rims?
I got them at Wheeling Cycle Supply in West Virginia. they were importing them from Japan at the time but I don't think they carry them any longer. The company name of the side panels is Zero G.
hi, i was recently looking at warp 9 wheels for a wr250r but i can't find the set-up with the stock brake rotor size,? did you buy a stock brake rotor size separately? and they do not sell the rear with a 43 tooth sprocket only the 44, was that also bought separately? also not same size for brake rotor for the rear ,when on the warp 9 website
I would call warp 9. Their website may only list the most common setup and most likely the confusion is direct swap vs conversion. I looked and the options are not there to mix and match. The front rotor I have is a warp 9 and has A89-2250 printed on it. The rear rotor is A89-2230 and the sprocket says 520-43 but I see no other number on it to indicate Yamaha fit. These are all Warp 9 parts so you may need to call the to get exactly what you want. I purchased mine here- motoxindustries.com/ so the part finding was already done for me.
If you don't the bike thinks you are going faster than normal, thus you end up racking up the mileage that you really never drove. In modern cars this is fixed by a sensor in the tranny, but I don't believe Yamaha put that in their WR's... I could be wrong though, but in general that's why you would want to change the speedometer to match accordingly.
Hi I got them at my local Yamaha dealer. Just give them the part numbers I listed in the description. Or you can order them from any online OEM parts vendor, for example www.rockymountainatvmc.com/oem-parts
I have a 2017 honda crf 250l and was wondering if the speedomoter only gets thrown off if you change gearing? If i change just to supermoto and keep stock gearing, it shouldn't change, should it.
it will also get thrown off when you change the tire size. The SM tires are a smaller diameter so the speedo will reflect a higher speed than you are actually going. Both factors, tire diameter and gearing will affect your speedo accuracy.
honestly given the choice I would take the 250R over the X any day. The "R" can go anywhere and do anything including street. The "X" can't do dirt. The only reason I have the street setup for my "R" is that I have a few dirt only bikes and can use others for my off-road adventures. If I only had one machine in the garage it would certainly be the "R" because it does it all. I am pretty much guessing that's why Yamaha only sells the "R" version in the US at this time because most feel this way.
Well, the WR-F is a completely different animal. Nothing is even similar to the WR-R. The first hurdle is to get it registered and tagged. The light kits are pretty simple to install and the WR-F does have an electrical system, I've done a few in my day. The biggest drawbacks with the WR-F is the service interval on the motor and the off road oriented transmission. Will it be a lot more fun ? ohhh yes absolutely. But you will never get close to the 20,000 mile mark with almost zero maintenance on the engine like I have on my WR-R..ever. It's all about fun vs cost and really based on what you want out of it. One thing, if you go the WR-F route the 450 would be a much better choice for an SM.
not sure really sure why the wr250x is no longer available but i have a pretty good idea. Most likely the street tire equipped version was not selling as well as the true "dual purpose" "R" model, at least here in the USA. Sales numbers drive all of those decisions.
don't know about the wr125x as I've never seen one, its not available in the US. On the CBR wheels they sure wont bolt on. Even on similar bikes of same brand you need to have the same axle size, the correct spacers and even at that you have some very serious modifications ahead of you even if you can make it work.
Funny. Here in UK WR250R version is not available any more. But X version is still selling. Watching your video to convert X to R. Is suspensions same on both?
about 5'6" . I can touch the ground comfortably with the SM tires. With the dirt wheels that extra inch doesn't make it too much worse. I have the adjustable rear shock clevis set to its lowest setting and the fork tubes raised about 1/2" above the clamps. Stock the bike is a skyscraper but you do have some tweaks to help.
You did a really good job with this, thanks for detailed instuctions, im looking to convert my wrr as well right now, just saving up for wheels/tyres :D
Awesome video!!! Thank you so much. You explained so clearly at the perfect pace, and had great camera work and lighting. I now feel confident to do this to my WR because of your video. Thanks Legend.
i was going to stop watching but you had a Miller Lite so i had to respect it and watch the whole thing!
Thank you for the video! Fellow Jersey rider here, just ordered my supermpto wheel set, thanks a lot for posting this!
Great video still, 7 years later !!!
fuck that looks so much better with sumo wheels
Thanks TM, I learnt a lot watching your video, you're a good teacher, very clear instructions. I'm about to buy a new 250R but never thought of converting it like that. Now I'm thinking it'd be a great idea - save my knobbies for when I do long trips.
thanks for the video.
have been wanting to do this since I first bought my 2012. I looked for a year for an X model, but there were none close to me at all! I was thinking of getting the hubs in red to add some contrast to all the blue. just worried it will look kinda funny.
Great job, looks great. Learned some tips too with the chain pulling.
yep that works great and doesn't matter if the bike is on a stand or not. Other than the dirty hand you get from it ..haha !
Dont own this bike, but plan to buy the x since where I live they're around the same price. But this was a very good "how to video".
This is the best video I've seen so far, how much in total do you thing you spent?
it was around $1300 for everything.
Agreed, about to put my SM wheels on this weekend. I know I have a 22mm, now I can check for and order a 27mm if I need it and be ready. Very well done.
That is an awesome video. Thank you very much sir. It was a pleasure to watch.
Got the same bike :) cheers o/
Great vid, very clear and interresting other swaps ideas 👍 Best supermoto wheels swap out there.
Interesting you fit break clamp with cable going inside the fork, I watch others move cable to the outside. I suppose new fork gards do the trick, excellent idea!
Q?: Did you have your front suspensions and rear shock upgraded ?
Thank you and great job 👍
Sweet build 🤙🏼🤙🏼
Nice job. Thanks and I hope to do this in the future too
Front weel need more bigger brake disks and extension for calipers
👍👍👍🆒 Something for me to consider. Excellent, 100% better than stock.
Looks really good like that
why you use new wheel and disc brakes , why not tyres only ?
Thank you, after the changes, according to the reduction of the front of the bike compared to the rear, did the handling of the bike not get affected
Yes, leaving suspension setup untouched the front is lower compared to rear, steering is quicker with sm setup.
nice work. you have some awesome tips! keep up the vids.
Do you know if I Would be able to do the same with the wr125r
godsend.15:45-16:32
Great video! I’m interested in knowing if once the fork guards / brake cable mod is done for the super moto tires if they need to be removed/ replaced with the stock guards should I wish to go back to the dirt tires for a weekend trip?
You can use the supermoto guards with the dirt tires too, no need to swap them back.
@@tweakmaster32 awesome, anything else besides swapping the tires over to convert back to dirt?
@@DavesSmallEngines the kickstand if you also bought the shorter one and as long as you are using the same size sprockets you can leave the chain alone. If you are using a speedohealer switch to the other setting and calibrate for the smaller tires. I have setting A for dirt, setting B for SM tires
@@tweakmaster32 perfect. Thanks for your time!
Great video! Thank You. What gear ratio do you use? Front sprocket tooth/Rear sprocket tooth. Did you use 13/43 or 13/42 for supermoto? Thank you.
Hi Alex, I use 13/43 with the supermoto setup.
I never thought about just buying WR250X fork guards, that's a good idea as when you get to the point where you want to sell the bike you can restore it to stock and make a little more cash selling the Sumo kit individually. I was wondering where you purchased the warp 9's from ? If you order it from their site will it come with everything ? Also if you are installing the 320mm front rotor is there anything else you need to do during the process ? I still haven't watched the whole video yet so sorry if you have already answered the questions !
Awesome video very helpful
Hi, I really liked this video, what tire size did you use and could I use a 5.00 rear tire and a 160/17 tire on this bike? Thanks
Do you swap kickstands everytime you swap between supermoto and dirt wheelsets?
Yes, it keeps the lean at the right angle. There have been times I left the shorter stand on with dirt wheels but I didn't like it.
You need one of these so I can borrow it when your not looking ? Thanks Roger
you seem like a guy that knows the answer to this: how can I lift the rear up? the tail, I need it higher, like...is there a longer shock I can buy? or should I solder a support for the bottom of the shock hook?
I would not do anything beyond maxing out the factory adjustment for shock height on the bottom clevis. Any more than that will change the geometry of the bike and affect handling.
tweakmaster32 it doesn',t adjust height, all it does, is make the shock stiffer, which reduces suspension...
There is a preload adjustment which is the amount of tension on the spring for your weight which you use for the ride height when loaded, not to raise or lower the seat height. For that there is a bolt on the bottom of the shock shaft which mounts the clevis to the linkage. This changes the static length of the shock. It does not change travel, rather the seat height. I believe it adjustment range is 1".
Hey gr8 vid ..but I need a kick stand you want to sell ur old one
Great video 💪🏻🔥🔥🔥
GOOD VIDEO MAN !!! THANKS !!!
Thanks a lot man
Great video. Question: When putting warp 9 sumo wheels on my wrr, will the stock front brake bracket work? I want to run it through the inside and I plan on getting wrx fork guards. Will my brake bracket just transfer right over to the wrx fork guards?
Edit: My bad, just realized you did use the same bracket.
But if that's the case, why do I see so many people running the brake line to the outside? I also see the zeta straight bracket... what's the point of all that?
if you do not have the "X" model fork guards you need the straight zeta bracket so you can run the brake hose on the outside of the guard to clear the tire. The stock bracket is curved to the inside which makes it impossible to run the cable on the outside if you had to.
Do they ship to Canada?
at the part in the video where the rear wheel gave you a pain, can you give any tips to make the process easier ? my Warp 9's just got here, so will be installing in the next few days. appreciate your help
well, its patience to slip the fatter tire in between the swingarm, chain guide and caliper the right way so it goes smoothly. I have done it no issue many times except when making a video of course. Just finesse the tire in at an angle between the chain guard and the inside of the swingarm and avoid knocking the caliper sideways and jamming it up. That's where I fouled it up. Be careful on the caliper side not to scratch the rim on it.
Great video! Where did you get that plastic that covers the exhaust?
hi, they are made by a company called zero-g. Wheeling cycle supply in WV used to import them from Japan but no more. I don't think you can get them any longer.
Useful video. Thanks.
What size tyres are you running on those rims?
sorry for the delayed response. Tire size on the rear is 150\60-17. Front is 120\70-17
Is the front tire direction backward?
Most sites including warp9 sell front with oversized brake rotor, is adding the adapter and removing each time that more difficult?
nope not at all, at the time I got mine the oversize option was not in stock or I would have gotten it.
hi to all! can any1 tell me if it's possible to swap wr125x stock wheels to make a wr250r turn to sm ? about rotor sizes and other things, if u got experiences , would love to hear from you :)
Hi do know where the fork guard for wr250x
any Yamaha parts dealer.
Fork Guards Yamaha OEM for 2011 model year and prior WR250X
left side OEM pn# 3D7-2315H-00-00 (Fork) PROTECTOR 1
right side OEM pn# 3D7-2315J-00-00 (Fork) PROTECTOR 2
Doing my due diligence in looking for tire size you went with. Are you using a 140 or 150 rear. If 150/60/17 any issues with chain rub etc. Thx great vid 🤘🏼
sorry for the delayed response. Tire size on the rear is 160\60-17. There is no chain rub until the chain is very worn and side to side play is excessive. I would say its a non-issue.
typo.... 150\60-17
How much beer would you recommend? Great vid, cheers.
Minimum of 2 is what I recommend for the job start to finish. Haha !
Hi, with the supermoto wheels on what is the seat height approx?
I sat on a WR250x the other day and I was surprised I was able to put both feet down flat almost both sides. Thanks,
the supermoto wheels lowered the seat height about 1.25 inches.
Subbed!
What year is your wr?
Sorry kept replaying it did you say it’s a 2008? That’s exactly the bike I just found on Craigslist pray everything works out and she’s mine 🙏❤️
yep its a 2008
You wouldn't happen to know which Fork guards I would need for my 2017 wr250r, would you? I can't seem to find any as I'm trying to avoid cutting down the ones that came with the bike
yep, order these from your local Yamaha dealer: left side OEM pn# 3D7-2315H-00-00 (Fork) PROTECTOR 1
right side OEM pn# 3D7-2315J-00-00 (Fork) PROTECTOR 2
tweakmaster32 Thanks for getting back to me. I appreciate it!
I like it so much but i can't buy it
Do the sprockets on first and street setups need to be the same size to fit?
Dirt*
Looking to do this to my WR-R. Where did you get the wheels and tires from out of curiosity?
Found it in the comments below. I'm going to order mine tomorrow. Thank you much for the great video! motoxindustries.com/
did you use the stock spacers? I bought Warp 9 rims. The stock spacers and axle rod doesn't seem to fit. Does Warp 9 sell spacers that'll fit their rims?
All the stock hardware should fit perfectly. Sounds like you were shipped the wrong wheels.
@@tweakmaster32 I bought a set of Warp 9 rims. The stock spacers didn't fit exactly on the Warp 9 rims. Thanks for your reply.
@@tweakmaster32 I bought a set of Warp 9 rims (circa 2013) off Craigslist. The stock spacers did not fit the rims as stock rims fit.
Where did you get your side plastic that covers the pipe? 😳😍
I got them at Wheeling Cycle Supply in West Virginia. they were importing them from Japan at the time but I don't think they carry them any longer. The company name of the side panels is Zero G.
hi, i was recently looking at warp 9 wheels for a wr250r but i can't find the set-up with the stock brake rotor size,? did you buy a stock brake rotor size separately? and they do not sell the rear with a 43 tooth sprocket only the 44, was that also bought separately? also not same size for brake rotor for the rear ,when on the warp 9 website
I would call warp 9. Their website may only list the most common setup and most likely the confusion is direct swap vs conversion. I looked and the options are not there to mix and match. The front rotor I have is a warp 9 and has A89-2250 printed on it. The rear rotor is A89-2230 and the sprocket says 520-43 but I see no other number on it to indicate Yamaha fit. These are all Warp 9 parts so you may need to call the to get exactly what you want. I purchased mine here- motoxindustries.com/ so the part finding was already done for me.
allright, thanks man and thanks for the part numbers!
why did u buy the speed healer when you have a GPS unit on the bike?
If you don't the bike thinks you are going faster than normal, thus you end up racking up the mileage that you really never drove. In modern cars this is fixed by a sensor in the tranny, but I don't believe Yamaha put that in their WR's... I could be wrong though, but in general that's why you would want to change the speedometer to match accordingly.
can you tell me where you bought the fork guards from ? thanks
sure, any Yamaha dealer or online Yamaha OEM parts vendor - they are Yamaha OEM parts.
where did you get the oem parts?, i couldnt find them, could you give me a website that you found them on?
Hi I got them at my local Yamaha dealer. Just give them the part numbers I listed in the description. Or you can order them from any online OEM parts vendor, for example www.rockymountainatvmc.com/oem-parts
where did you find the fork guards? i cannot find anywhere to buy them!
they are Yamaha OEM parts for the wr250x. You can order them at any Yamaha dealer or retailer that sells Yamaha OEM parts.
Looks like the first thing to do is pop a cold one!
Where you bought the wheels?
By converting to supermoto will it lower the bike an inch or so as well?
Yes it did by at least an inch. The bike is considerably lower I measured it at one point but don’t remember the exact difference.
@@tweakmaster32 awesome man thx for the video do u have the link where u purchased the supermoto tires from?
Found it. Damn its expenaive!
is the warp 9 real wheel equipped with a cush drive?
there is no cush drive on the warp 9 wheel.
tweakmaster32 thanks. Man I want to get a ktm 500excf and turn it into a SM. But I just don't date if I can't find wheels with a Cush Drive
Where did you get those rear lights?
D Holbs I got them here: www.wheelingcyclesupply.com/
What kind of blinkers do you have?
they are DRC type 601 LEDs
+tweakmaster32 thanks, ordering soon. For the front, did you have to buy drc mounting brackets as well?
Yes that's exactly what I used. Make sure you get the ones for side pinch bolts, they make brackets for both front and side pinch bolt locations.
Hey, what kind of tires did you use?
I used Michelin Pilot tires
I have a 2017 honda crf 250l and was wondering if the speedomoter only gets thrown off if you change gearing? If i change just to supermoto and keep stock gearing, it shouldn't change, should it.
it will also get thrown off when you change the tire size. The SM tires are a smaller diameter so the speedo will reflect a higher speed than you are actually going. Both factors, tire diameter and gearing will affect your speedo accuracy.
tweakmaster32 So no matter what, I should get the speedo healer? And thanks for the response.
Yes, you will need it when changing gearing and/or tire size... it will pay off.
tweakmaster32 thank you. That is defiantly good to know
Would you rather have a 250R or 250X?
honestly given the choice I would take the 250R over the X any day. The "R" can go anywhere and do anything including street. The "X" can't do dirt. The only reason I have the street setup for my "R" is that I have a few dirt only bikes and can use others for my off-road adventures. If I only had one machine in the garage it would certainly be the "R" because it does it all. I am pretty much guessing that's why Yamaha only sells the "R" version in the US at this time because most feel this way.
What about a 2008 WR250F? Would that be a good candidate for Supermoto? The light kit is only $170.
Well, the WR-F is a completely different animal. Nothing is even similar to the WR-R. The first hurdle is to get it registered and tagged. The light kits are pretty simple to install and the WR-F does have an electrical system, I've done a few in my day. The biggest drawbacks with the WR-F is the service interval on the motor and the off road oriented transmission. Will it be a lot more fun ? ohhh yes absolutely. But you will never get close to the 20,000 mile mark with almost zero maintenance on the engine like I have on my WR-R..ever. It's all about fun vs cost and really based on what you want out of it. One thing, if you go the WR-F route the 450 would be a much better choice for an SM.
Just scared the 250 won't have the power. Tops out at like 60. The 450 I think would be better but it is not as flickable.
why isnt the wr250x abaliablr
not sure really sure why the wr250x is no longer available but i have a pretty good idea. Most likely the street tire equipped version was not selling as well as the true "dual purpose" "R" model, at least here in the USA. Sales numbers drive all of those decisions.
Sirinterius probably not as the cbr wheels are thicker
Sirinterius possibly im not really sure about that one
don't know about the wr125x as I've never seen one, its not available in the US. On the CBR wheels they sure wont bolt on. Even on similar bikes of same brand you need to have the same axle size, the correct spacers and even at that you have some very serious modifications ahead of you even if you can make it work.
Funny. Here in UK WR250R version is not available any more. But X version is still selling.
Watching your video to convert X to R. Is suspensions same on both?
how tall are you?
about 5'6" . I can touch the ground comfortably with the SM tires. With the dirt wheels that extra inch doesn't make it too much worse. I have the adjustable rear shock clevis set to its lowest setting and the fork tubes raised about 1/2" above the clamps. Stock the bike is a skyscraper but you do have some tweaks to help.
I want to like this video but I don’t want to be the 666th “like” lmao
I totally understand haha !
Nice echo. 5 seconds was enough for me.