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- The Hoka Cielo X-1 is a tall-stacked marathon racer that uses a creative midsole geometry to stuff 46mm of PEBA foam in the heel. I's also a heavier shoe because of the extra foam we're getting. My first few runs in the shoe proved that it's a fun, bouncy ride over short distances. In this video, I put it through the long run test on a hilly 22 miler with 14 miles at marathon effort and two miles at threshold. Here's how it performed.
0:00 - Intro
0:34 - Long Run Prep
3:43 - Plan for the Run
10:33 - Post-Run Analysis
14:12 - Weight
15:18 - Performance Across Paces
18:30 - Durability
21:00 - Competitors
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Pls Don't lose that honesty and integrity to any sponsors, like so many shoe reviewers seem to do nowadays.
You talk brilliantly, you're a genuine runner with fantastic knowledge.
Quickly became my favourite shoe reviewer.
OMG, been waiting for this since your first run with them! People should remember that 1 ounce of weight is nothing compared to loosing a couple pounds before a race! Only the elites will notice this “weight penalty”!
I knew I had to do this video for you after you requested it twice hahaha
Not quite true, one ounce on the feet is at the very end of the double-pendulum of your leg, a point where weight becomes much more influential on running economy than in the upper body. There’s been good research done demonstrating the relationship between shoe weight and RE - Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2016 Nov;48(11):2175-2180.
Sorry I’m not trying to be argumentative, this is just something think people should be aware of haha
I agree with Logan. The weight difference at your foot is rather different than weight you have somewhere else on your body because of the movement. Sports science has quantified that every 100g increase in weight of the shoe you lose about 1% of running economy. The shoe can be heavy, but it needs to make up for the lost running economy. For example, for me Adidas Prime X Stung OG makes up for all the weight of the crazy amount of foam and rubber outsole on the shoe. I am not saying this shoe does not, but it is currently the heaviest legal super shoe. On a short run at easier pace this might not matter but during a race it could.
Ordered a pair based on your reviews. Keep up the great videos!
Thank you! 🙌🏽 I bet you'll love them
Appreciate the mention of the arch issues!
I like the idea of having a multi-stage testing protocol! Keep up the good work. I was also chuckling over your morning whispers so as not to wake anyone up. #dadpower.
hahaha yeah we don't need any screaming babies/toddlers at 5:30 am
You've quickly become my favorite shoe reviewer! Just got the Cielo X1 for my upcoming marathon and man does it feel awesome to run in! Loving these daily videos!
Thank you 🙌🏽 and yeah it's such a great shoe
YOWANA cranking out the bangers! i appreciate it.
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My neighborhood is hilly, too, and I agree about the weight penalty on the hills; also on tired legs at the end of a long run or after lifting weights.
Love your videos! Got 10 mi in earlier today at 7:12 pace, felt great. Was in Endorphin Speed 3’s. I have the Gasparilla Half Marathon this Sunday! Was also my first time running 10 miles today. Shooting for sub 1:35 I think!
Awesome! Sounds like a great run. The half is my favorite race distance btw - great choice 💪🏽
Good review..for my Boston qualifier the Cielo sounds like a good choice..my most important thing is how comfortable it is in the last 6-8mi..haven't tried the alphafly V3 yet but V1 has been fair..it gets too harsh when the foam has gotten flat..I find the Cielo has a much better roll thru and really likes to be pushed ..same for the Mizuno pro 1..the the NB sc elite V4 is very comfortable but doesn't really have that extra pop..it might be one of the best trainers on the market for long runs..
Cielo was super comfortable for me throughout the whole run - even miles 20 to 22 when I was cooling down it still felt great. I didn't get any foot fatigue in it either like I can get with some other shoes on long runs. The only discomfort I had was in the beginning when warming up and heel striking, the midfoot foam bulge is awkward to land on. But if the alphaflys work for your mechanics you should be golden in these
Look forward to alpha 3 vs Hoka Cielo x1 review
I’m only even more stressed about which to choose from 🙃. I had a little left side achilles injury back in the spring/summer last year. Since then it seems my left sides tends to definitely heel strike and I can’t correct it while my right foot seems to be more flat maybe with a little heel strike. Definitely seems to flatten out during race pace but I don’t know. I’m not advanced as you. I just be running and not really knowing what happens totally. Either I hit my splits or I’ll get it next week. I was stuck between this or the alphafly 3. But now I don’t know. Maybe VF3 at this point. Whatever will help me get 2:55 marathon this year
30+KM long run yesterday temps started at -14C/-21C windchill. and was barely warmer when I finished. And threw in two 10min sections of 4min marathon power, 1 min hm power, 4min mp, 1min hmp, 10min steady, then 10mins of previous interval into cooldown to finish 30km, all in the Novablast v3. Hit power targets, and Novablast disappeared on my feet...never thought about my feet once.
HOKA are using the same midsole profile as the Mizuno racer which completely gets around the heel stack as measured perpendicular from the heel to the ground. Curious if World Athletics will close that loop hole or not...but I doubt it. Weight is the next major improvement in racing shoes, now that all brands have basically caught up to ZoomX with their own foam compositions.
Sounds like a beast long run! I could not do it in temps that cold hahaha bd agreed on "race to the bottom" for weight being the next frontier. I don't think those super lightweight shoes with poor durability make sense for us hobby joggers but it'll be a cool arms race to watch for elite racing
You mentioned it's not a good option for heel strikers, what race day should would you recommend for a heel striker (and dragger)? Similar to you I think, I drag my heels and heel strike, so I am looking for outsole coverage on the exact spot it's missing from Cielo X1...
Saucony endorphin pro 3 is a better option for heel durability and mechanics. I have 300 miles total across two pairs and they're great - raced a marathon in them as well. Of the new ones releasing this year, TYR Valkyrie elite carbon and new balance sc elite v4 have worked really well for heel striking as well and have good rubber coverage. New balance has a bit more rubber but is a less aggressive geometry. TYR has a strong forefoot rocker and is super stable. I haven't ran in the endorphin pro 4 yet but that may be a good option too - stay tuned on that front
Any idea the release date for the N.B. Pacer 2??? That's the racer I'm excited about. I just got my first "racers", N.B. SC Elite 3 at a bargain, only $144, at N.B. website.
Pacer v2 is coming back half of the year.
I'm hype about that one as well - should be a nice competitor to the Takumi Sen
Please tell me the name of the website to see what running shoes are best for me. You mentioned it a bit too fast. Your video is very informative. Thanks:-)
thank you! you can take the shoe matcher quiz to find the best running shoes for you here www.supwell.io/tools/running-shoe-matcher
What's the bottle/gel caddy you're using? Do you carry it for the run or stash it somewhere on a loop?
It's this guy here - the Nathan speed draw a.co/d/htsEKM9 I carry it with me for the whole run - usually filled with tailwind endurance fuel. It has an elastic strap so that you don't have to grip it and I pretty much forget about it once I'm running. Also I like it way better than putting gels in my pockets and trying to fish them out when running at marathon pace
When I wouldn’t finish my bagel before my long runs ( 20 mile ish ) it wouldn’t be good because I‘m already starving after every long run 😄 It‘s fascinating how efficient your body use the fuel you‘re giving to it 🔥🔥🔥 What I heard about the Cielo X1 from run like heller and Seth James Demoor is that the shoe is frankly speaking really good but what is standing out in a negative way are the laces 🤔 What is your opinion in general about the cielo x1 and their laces? 😃
I didn't have any issues with the laces on the long run - I did my usual double knot and they stayed tied the whole time. Lock down is great too and overall super comfortable shoe (except for heel landing)
@@supwell Very interesting 🫶🏻🔥 There you go mate. Nice job 👌
Maybe the rebellion flash 2 vs takumi sen 10? I just think theyre both the little brother to the main big marathon racer
love it - stay tuned
I would love to see to over 100 miles the Diadora gara and SC elite V4. please
I got you 🙌🏽
Love to try them but not for $275.
I'm 68 years old & I do hill repeats 4 times a week. I don't jog or run 10-minute miles. What lightweight forward-moving shoe would you recommend? I''m 5'7 150 lbs.
Check out the new balance rebel v4. Has everything you need and nothing you don't. Nice and lightweight for fast running with the perfect amount of support, comfort and cushion for those shorter faster runs
@@supwell Thanks for the advice. Just placed the order.
Which shoes do you wear most daily, not for running?
i always have on the hoka ora luxe recovery slides around the house. and then on cloudmonster for playing with kids in the yard and right now my main walking/errands shoe is the brooks ghost max. sometimes will wear the nike pegasus or tracksmith eliot runner for walking/errands as well
@@supwell Thank you very much.
Whats his website? Didnt catch it.
Supwell.io - thanks for asking!
Looks like you might overcomplicate (the knots) lacing up your shoes. 😀
Hahaha I started doing this double knot probably 15 years ago when I played basketball and didn't like my laces flopping all over the court. I like how it looks on running shoes and it does a pretty good keeping them locked down too
Both the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro v1 and v2 are lighter, have a MUCH better more breathable upper, have normal - not plastic crap laces, and have a better rocker.
Agreed... I got the Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro v1 for xmas and will be doing some racing soon. Please note that its toebox is narrow, so go 1/2 size up if you have wide feet. Also I have seen some discounts on the v1 recently. It would be a bargain at $200!
Better rocker? You sound biased!
@@gbilya2 I've tried and own both versions of the Wave Rebellion Pro. I've tried, and returned, the Cielo X1. I'm not "biased". I've given them a fair chance and the X1 simply isn't as good of a race day shoe as the Rebellion Pros are. I'll definitely be giving the next version of the X1 a try - hopefully Hoka can figure out how to make a better, more breathable upper for a race day shoe by then.
I've the pro 2s are they are insane, I do like the Cielo X1s but very heavy after say 15 miles you can definitely feel the weight. The pro 2s are out of this world and can definitely go faster due to the less weight the shoe carries
i haven't tested the mizuno wave rebellion pro yet but i may have to bump that one up the list - thanks for the recommendation
Do you review Asics?
I reviewed the gel nimbus 25 but haven't done an Asics in a while. Is there one you want me to cover?
@@supwell Superblast, Novablast 4 and the upcoming metaspeed🙏
Is it really 46 or 40? I know this is a race legal shoe, can’t be 46
40 at the point they legally measure which is 12.5% off the back - and 46 at the tallest part closer to the midfoot
Expensive shoe for long runs especially with low durability of the outsole and too heavy for actual races. Better options exist for both categories.
🤔May not be suitable for the hills of Boston... Guess I'm going to the Emerald Isle Marathon 😂
After 16 miles in these at marathon pace the weight of these shoes are extremely noticeable 👎
Those REI 3/4 pants that aren’t supposed to be 3/4!!! So annoying/disappointing. Everything except the length is great, but they just gotta give us that 28” inseam.
Hahaha agreed! We need a big and tall running brand