Used the X-talon Ultra 260s for the Dartmoor Circular, and while great in the mud, absolutely LETHAL on the wet rock. I have never fallen over so many times on an ultra run! Therefore, hoping the Mudtalon Speed will offer the required grip from the combination of differently shaped lugs and the stickier compound. Thanks for the video, and those are my favorite Cornish weather conditions, suits my "tractor" style running abilities :)
@@Run4Adventure no. I am subscribed.. but I watch it from time to time. Was it extra hard to make this one? One thing I miss, few more big mud splashes in close up. It is USP. One more.... u had mentioned good water drainage system, next time show it in close up, as well. One more.... press the front cap to show how soft it is. I think viewers like to see u do the walk what u talk. U know what I mean? Don't only say it, show it, in 3-5sec. Hit the rock if you need to show it in downhill run
@@Vjekoslav-vf3hr Thanks for Subscribing 🙏 There was close up mud shots in the video. The problem with doing that is I have to clean the camera after everyone because it gets covered in mud. I totally know what you mean about showing what I’m saying, that’s why I put so many overlays in our videos. Obviously all those overlays take a lot of time to film and to edit into the video. The run in this video was only 11.2 miles but with all the filming and stopping to turn the camera took me over 4hrs to film! 👍
Great test of this shoe and interesting that you found it gripped better on the wet rock which has been my only minor gripe with my previous ‘Mud talons’
dear Loyd I like your videos they are fresh lively and informative but please focus on the road when driving and wait until the car park with the intro
The mud that gets stuck tends to be the dark peaty stuff in the mountains. Very few shoes will shed that. Sometimes minimal lugs are best for that but that configuration doesn't work so well elsewhere as there's not enough rubber on rock, roots etc. I think Inov8 have gotten their lug design about right for the intended terrain.
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Grey dryish clay that we have here in southern Finland also gets stuck pretty hard. Luckily it is not the most common type of soil around here. Most types of peat we have shed off pretty easily.
@ never run in Finland but I hike and run in Ireland and the UK regularly. I live near a mountainous area in Ireland where I run and hike most weeks. Irish mountains are very wet and blanket bogs are common. Trails tend to have lots of exposed black peaty soil which is quite acidic and will destroy the midsoles of boots if they are not cleaned. This stuff cakes soles and is very slippery. The more lugs, the more it gets stuck in the gaps in my experience. Too few lugs and the shoe isn't so good on the wet rock which is also plentiful.
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@@sdemosi have you tried any studded shoes? Inov-8 oroc or VJ Bold X for example. I have the latter and the grip is unbelievable on mossy slimy rocks😃
@ I've tried Salomon Spikecross but I didn't like the drop or width. That kind of overshadowed the rest of the shoe for me. They certainly felt grippy.
These shoes look awesome. I love the Talon 260 so this could be the next step! Only potential drawback for me is 4mm drop, never run anything lower than a 6mm drop. Thanks for a great review loyd!
Great video Lloyd. I always enjoy watching your north coast adventures, especially having pined for them a bit since moving nearer Plymouth. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you'll be reviewing the Trailfly Speed or non-Speed versions soon (perhaps when a bit drier!).
Grabbed a pair of these as was really excited about them, im a proper Inov8 fan boi! Toe box is great, almost Altra MT King like, padding and underfoot protection feel pretty good, lugs are great BUT BUT BUT the heel cup section at the achilles is a brute. The heel cup is high and my heel feels like it drops into the cup which proper aggravates the skin over my achilles. Im hoping these will wear in as i've only spent a few uncomfortable hours in them but i'm not hopeful which would be a real shame! Nice work as ever Loyd
Sorry to hear this mate! 😞 You’re right, the shoe does come up high at the heel but it hasn’t caused me any issues yet? I really hope the shoe beds in and the heel problem is resolved 🤞 Thanks for watching, I’m glad you enjoyed the video 🙏
Big viewer of your videos Lloyd, picked up alot of tips. Not a fan of driving and recording however, I'm in Bristol and see all manner of people doing makeup, using their phone or even tablet when driving and would hate to see or know someone has been involved in an incident with a driver recording a TH-cam video.
Thanks for your concern Jason and thanks for watching the channel. I was filming with my GoPro 7 that doesn’t have a forward facing screen and I had the camera switched to voice control so it was no different to me talking to a passage in the car. The camera was also attached to a mount on the windscreen so I wasn’t holding it. I made sure the road I filmed on was straight and quiet when it comes to traffic. I’m really not sure you can compare what I was doing to someone putting on their make up using an iPhone! I made sure the filming was done in a safe manner so don’t worry. Also my name is spelt with one ‘L’ and not two 👍
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Nice run! I still don't get why almost all manufacturers make so wide heels for shoes that are meant for technical trails. They will just twist your ankles more on uneven terrain (nevermind offering too much guidance on flat ground for some runners). Just imagine diagonally descending steep mossy or muddy hill. Narrow heels would cut through the top soil without twisting your ankles. Toe box shape of this shoe looks pretty good though 😃
great video loyd . at the moment i run in topo athletics and altra. do you think the precision fit will do it or do i need the wide fit? in germany i have to order directly from inov 8 @ the moment. thx @run4adventure ps: i am curious about the trailfly speed too
Ran to Zennor via the tinners way and then back to St Ives island along the coastpath a couple of weeks back . Most of the trail a lot dryer then.. keep that little carpark a secret, show way to much
I’ve got a pretty narrow foot shape so I went with the precision fit and half a size up to a uk10 and the upper fits great! 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
Must admit that I'm a bit confused about all the new Inov8 shoes over the past couple of years. Would you say they have anything as grippy as the X talon that are comfortable over ultra distances?
I'm really interested to know how it performs on wet and slippery rock? Some trails in the peak district are mix or bog and rock so would be good to know this. I have not found anything better than VJ shoes on wet rock thus far.
@@bilaltahir9978 Probably the ultra - only shoe I’ve found that is cushioned, light and grippy! XTRM2 is also a lot of fun and certainly needed in the U.K. at the moment!
I see there's a standard Mudtalon too with more cushion. How do the speeds compare to the Peregrine 13s? I find that the Peregrines have good all round grip with enough cushion for any bits of tarmac
I’d say the MUDTALON feels quite a bit more minimal compared to the Peregrine 13. The Peregrine definitely has more cushioning and underfoot protection than the Inov8 shoe 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
Honest question from a North American. Does "Leave No Trace" not apply in England? I was always told to avoid the trails if they were that soft, but it seems in England this isn't the case. Not trying to stir things up, just honestly wondering.
Great video as always. Do you plan to test the “normal” (non-Speed) Mudtalons? Yet to see any shoe reviewers get them, but they seem more targeted at the average runner where easy, muddy runs with mates are more important than how fast you’re going.
Loyd we love you. (please) DO NOT DRIVE WHILE FILMING YOUR VIDEOS! -- though I love your hard work and content on youtube, I'm giving this a "dislike" --> SAFETY FIRST!
that was my 0:16 rant... now I'm watching the rest of the video as this pair of shoes might have been the one I would have needed... next sunday on a trail in the Alps that the weather forecast is challenging ^^!
Thank you Lloyd for taking us ALL on a Run 4 Adventure. This is how ALL trail shoes should be tested. I enjoyed this video so much.
Really glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching 🙏🙂
Used the X-talon Ultra 260s for the Dartmoor Circular, and while great in the mud, absolutely LETHAL on the wet rock. I have never fallen over so many times on an ultra run! Therefore, hoping the Mudtalon Speed will offer the required grip from the combination of differently shaped lugs and the stickier compound. Thanks for the video, and those are my favorite Cornish weather conditions, suits my "tractor" style running abilities :)
Long time210/212er, got these last month and it's like a comfort upgrade without losing the nimbleness or ground feel, very pleased with them
Glad you like your Mudtalon Speeds Andrew, thanks for watching 🙏
I am suprised... how excellent this video is. Bravoooo
I’m glad you enjoyed it! Is it the first time you ever watched the channel? 🤔
@@Run4Adventure no.
I am subscribed.. but I watch it from time to time. Was it extra hard to make this one?
One thing I miss, few more big mud splashes in close up. It is USP.
One more.... u had mentioned good water drainage system, next time show it in close up, as well.
One more.... press the front cap to show how soft it is. I think viewers like to see u do the walk what u talk. U know what I mean? Don't only say it, show it, in 3-5sec. Hit the rock if you need to show it in downhill run
@@Vjekoslav-vf3hr Thanks for Subscribing 🙏 There was close up mud shots in the video. The problem with doing that is I have to clean the camera after everyone because it gets covered in mud. I totally know what you mean about showing what I’m saying, that’s why I put so many overlays in our videos. Obviously all those overlays take a lot of time to film and to edit into the video. The run in this video was only 11.2 miles but with all the filming and stopping to turn the camera took me over 4hrs to film! 👍
@@Run4Adventure what to say?
makenit shorter and more effective 😀
Great test of this shoe and interesting that you found it gripped better on the wet rock which has been my only minor gripe with my previous ‘Mud talons’
Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching 🙏🙂
dear Loyd I like your videos they are fresh lively and informative but please focus on the road when driving and wait until the car park with the intro
Obviously I was focused on the road but thanks for your concern 👍
I think the colour coordination of your shoes and running outfit is key 😅 Looking good, Loyd. Perfect conditions to test this shoe 👍🏃
You’ve got to be coordinated Mark 👍🙂
The mud that gets stuck tends to be the dark peaty stuff in the mountains. Very few shoes will shed that. Sometimes minimal lugs are best for that but that configuration doesn't work so well elsewhere as there's not enough rubber on rock, roots etc.
I think Inov8 have gotten their lug design about right for the intended terrain.
Grey dryish clay that we have here in southern Finland also gets stuck pretty hard. Luckily it is not the most common type of soil around here.
Most types of peat we have shed off pretty easily.
@ never run in Finland but I hike and run in Ireland and the UK regularly. I live near a mountainous area in Ireland where I run and hike most weeks. Irish mountains are very wet and blanket bogs are common. Trails tend to have lots of exposed black peaty soil which is quite acidic and will destroy the midsoles of boots if they are not cleaned. This stuff cakes soles and is very slippery. The more lugs, the more it gets stuck in the gaps in my experience. Too few lugs and the shoe isn't so good on the wet rock which is also plentiful.
@@sdemosi have you tried any studded shoes? Inov-8 oroc or VJ Bold X for example. I have the latter and the grip is unbelievable on mossy slimy rocks😃
@ I've tried Salomon Spikecross but I didn't like the drop or width. That kind of overshadowed the rest of the shoe for me. They certainly felt grippy.
Proper job Loyd! Great test and review 👍
Cheers Tony, hope you are fit and well 👍😁
love your videos; and respect the shoe advice. Please concentrate on your driving.
I was obviously concentrating on my driving but thanks for your concern Kieron! 👍
These shoes look awesome. I love the Talon 260 so this could be the next step! Only potential drawback for me is 4mm drop, never run anything lower than a 6mm drop. Thanks for a great review loyd!
A 2mm difference shouldn’t make a lot of difference Jim, you probably won’t even notice it 👍
Great video Lloyd. I always enjoy watching your north coast adventures, especially having pined for them a bit since moving nearer Plymouth. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you'll be reviewing the Trailfly Speed or non-Speed versions soon (perhaps when a bit drier!).
Good afternoon. Interesting information, Loyd. Here is my Like. Have a great sunday.
Cheers Manuel, you too 👍🙂
Would be good to see a mud talon review 👍
I’ll see what I can do 👍
Thanks for watching 🙂
Great review as always. Just my opinion but Inov8 shoes in a nutshell. Mud = Fantastic. Wet Rock = Lethal.
Grabbed a pair of these as was really excited about them, im a proper Inov8 fan boi!
Toe box is great, almost Altra MT King like, padding and underfoot protection feel pretty good, lugs are great BUT BUT BUT the heel cup section at the achilles is a brute.
The heel cup is high and my heel feels like it drops into the cup which proper aggravates the skin over my achilles.
Im hoping these will wear in as i've only spent a few uncomfortable hours in them but i'm not hopeful which would be a real shame!
Nice work as ever Loyd
Sorry to hear this mate! 😞
You’re right, the shoe does come up high at the heel but it hasn’t caused me any issues yet? I really hope the shoe beds in and the heel problem is resolved 🤞
Thanks for watching, I’m glad you enjoyed the video 🙏
That route looks great, I’ll give it a go if I’m ever down your way …. Great review as always 👍
Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching 🙏🙂
Great review Loyd. Cracking looking shoe and seems ideal for when the coast path is wet.
Not a fan of the styling at all but then once they’re covered in mud it won’t matter.
Big viewer of your videos Lloyd, picked up alot of tips.
Not a fan of driving and recording however, I'm in Bristol and see all manner of people doing makeup, using their phone or even tablet when driving and would hate to see or know someone has been involved in an incident with a driver recording a TH-cam video.
Thanks for your concern Jason and thanks for watching the channel. I was filming with my GoPro 7 that doesn’t have a forward facing screen and I had the camera switched to voice control so it was no different to me talking to a passage in the car. The camera was also attached to a mount on the windscreen so I wasn’t holding it. I made sure the road I filmed on was straight and quiet when it comes to traffic. I’m really not sure you can compare what I was doing to someone putting on their make up using an iPhone! I made sure the filming was done in a safe manner so don’t worry. Also my name is spelt with one ‘L’ and not two 👍
Nice run! I still don't get why almost all manufacturers make so wide heels for shoes that are meant for technical trails. They will just twist your ankles more on uneven terrain (nevermind offering too much guidance on flat ground for some runners).
Just imagine diagonally descending steep mossy or muddy hill. Narrow heels would cut through the top soil without twisting your ankles.
Toe box shape of this shoe looks pretty good though 😃
I have the Mudtalons in a precision fit and the heel is really narrow, it’s not wide at all Miika 👍
great video loyd . at the moment i run in topo athletics and altra. do you think the precision fit will do it or do i need the wide fit? in germany i have to order directly from inov 8 @ the moment.
thx @run4adventure
ps: i am curious about the trailfly speed too
Ran to Zennor via the tinners way and then back to St Ives island along the coastpath a couple of weeks back . Most of the trail a lot dryer then.. keep that little carpark a secret, show way to much
It was definitely a lot dryer a couple of weeks ago Alan! 👍
Great video Lloyd. Really interested in these as the fields around me are soaked and under water! Did you get the 'precision' or 'wide' fit?
I’ve got a pretty narrow foot shape so I went with the precision fit and half a size up to a uk10 and the upper fits great! 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
Must admit that I'm a bit confused about all the new Inov8 shoes over the past couple of years. Would you say they have anything as grippy as the X talon that are comfortable over ultra distances?
@@johndunn3675 It really depends on how far you mean when it comes to Ultra distance John? 🤔
I'm really interested to know how it performs on wet and slippery rock? Some trails in the peak district are mix or bog and rock so would be good to know this. I have not found anything better than VJ shoes on wet rock thus far.
I talked all about the level of grip on wet rock in the video? 🤔
Great video! How is the sizing compared to Speedgoat 5, would you suggest ordering the same size or go up/down?
I always go up half a size in Inov8, their shoes do tend to size a bit small 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
VJ shoes are the only ones I’ve tested that grip on wet wood!
What is your favourite VJ shoe?
I’m going to be testing out some VJ shoes later in the year 👍
@@bilaltahir9978 Probably the ultra - only shoe I’ve found that is cushioned, light and grippy! XTRM2 is also a lot of fun and certainly needed in the U.K. at the moment!
@@Run4Adventure Great to hear Loyd!!
Great review, really interested in this shoe. Pls no more videos whilst driving 🙏
I see there's a standard Mudtalon too with more cushion. How do the speeds compare to the Peregrine 13s? I find that the Peregrines have good all round grip with enough cushion for any bits of tarmac
I’d say the MUDTALON feels quite a bit more minimal compared to the Peregrine 13. The Peregrine definitely has more cushioning and underfoot protection than the Inov8 shoe 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏
Honest question from a North American. Does "Leave No Trace" not apply in England? I was always told to avoid the trails if they were that soft, but it seems in England this isn't the case. Not trying to stir things up, just honestly wondering.
That would be impractical in England given that it pretty much rains every day ☔️
That rule doesn’t apply here in the UK, if it did we wouldn’t be able to run on the trails all winter because it’s always wet 👍
They look good but the price is putting me off
140€ in Europe. Not that bad for a brand new shoe.
Just wait for a while for the discounts.
Great video as always. Do you plan to test the “normal” (non-Speed) Mudtalons? Yet to see any shoe reviewers get them, but they seem more targeted at the average runner where easy, muddy runs with mates are more important than how fast you’re going.
I’ll see what I can do Stuart 👍
First in🎉
Loyd we love you. (please) DO NOT DRIVE WHILE FILMING YOUR VIDEOS! -- though I love your hard work and content on youtube, I'm giving this a "dislike" --> SAFETY FIRST!
that was my 0:16 rant... now I'm watching the rest of the video as this pair of shoes might have been the one I would have needed... next sunday on a trail in the Alps that the weather forecast is challenging ^^!