INSULATING and BUILDING the Floor | TRC Van Conversion 5.0
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- The first of the insulation is fitted and the floor is finished! There is more to this floor build due to the seats but hopefully it will help people looking to fit a solid warm floor in their van.
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Sorry if not clear how the timbers were secured. They were bonded to the cleaned floor ribs using silkaflex, a high strength adhesive designed for such applications. This prevents needing to drill through the van floor and is plenty strong enough, (I tested it using several materials and was very surprised.)
hi,
I found these really useful "insulation stick pins" for securing insulation in van conversions they are really simple and very effective. here's the link
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stick-Pins-Insulation-Hangers-Camper-Conversion-Box-Of-100/282864350601?hash=item41dc077589:g:akkAAOSwM1tam-Hi
Which blend of Sikaflex did you use, kind sir?
Your link to the Silkaflex is broken, which one did you end up using?
Great I was just thinking to ask that
I think it might be Sika 310g Sikaflex 221 - White Industrial Adhesive Polyurethane
Absolutely and without reservation, the very best series of steps to insulate the floor. I have been watching hours upon hours of floor insulation videos and the work you did far exceeds anything else I have seen. If anyone describes it as ‘over the top” they are not taking into consideration the safety of your children! Thank you very much
Thank you. Glad you found it helpful, lots of faster ways to do it but it's one of those jobs you can't really go back to so worth getting right first time.
I remember checking TH-cam daily hoping to see the next episode had been uploaded... Hard to believe this was almost 2 years ago now!!!!
I really appreciate your attention to detail and willingness to pull it all out and trim a tiny bit to get the fit just right. Well done! Thanks for sharing this.
We are converting a van into camper ourselves and your DIY channel is so so useful! Really well done to you
can honestly say this is one of the best conversions ive seen!! and ive seen alot! lol
TY! This is the only video I found that showed how they built the floor around seats. Good idea with the inexpensive plastic sheet to template, just what I needed for how I can do mine.
One of the best Videos I have seen on van insulating.
Thanks for the upload
Hi, Great job insulating the van, a lot of eork, but, you did a wonderful job, you and your family will be warm, without squeaks, we'll be watching, your progress, thanks for sharing.Blessings! !!!!!!!
Thanks Fred.
I have just found your videos as am considering buying a microvan. I have loved watching your videos so far as to how you have gone about insulating the van and the little tips. The best videos I have seen on this for sure. Like the fact that you haven't just thrown in expanding foam. I'll be using your techniques if I get the van. Thanks so much for doing these! You have been a godsend in showing a not very good DIYer how to go about it.
Squeaks drive me crazy so i'm glad you addressed any potential issues ahead of time. Kudos. Great build.
What. A. Man. This is honestly the most informative and thorough TH-cam series on camper van builds that I've found. And as a side note, your children are gorgeous
I really enjoy the fact that not only is your workmanship superb, so is your camera and editing skills! Great documenting
Damn this dude it right! Seriously. I was debating on just covering the holes where the seats go or not. Wow, great job buddy,
Thanks again for another great video and making it so clear. I’m using your videos like many people before to convert my van.. Thanks again
Awesome episode and channel. Thanks for not being soooooo corny like so many van life people!
Thanks! I think we will be aiming for substance over style, so perhaps a little more information based than others but we will try and keep it fun to watch!
Not over the top mate, I've been trying to decide between baton floor or lay on to insulation board, "safety" rules the day! Thank you for making the video, you helped.
Just did something similar in my econoline van with transit double seats and brackets. I built the floor up with the battens in the valleys between the ribs with XPS foam board resting on the ribs. I filled in the gaps with spray foam and I can walk directly on the XPS with it flexing. Next up is 3/8” plywood to match the height of the metal loops on the seat brackets.
i like your attention to details. It gave me some ideas for installing radiant flooring for cold weather climates. Thank You for the videos
The best conversion video I've seen. excellent job!!! Just what I've been searching for. Thanks
I am doing mine this weekend, thanks for some great tips i have learned, its petty much the same way as yours but i have drilled the floor never thought of bonding the battens down so i have to go underneath to make sure there is going to be no rust gggrrrrrr, brilliant video i have to watch the rest now, thanks again Regards Mark...
Finally a good insulation video! Thanks for sharing :D
superb job with no shortcuts great job
Wow. So meticulously professional.
Linking materials used is very helpful thank you. Own build starts soon!
Thanks for sharing this exciting project with us! I appreciate the detail you have gone into- takes out a lot of guess work for people without much experience in this kind of thing. We are a family of 4, with 2 young kids and am so motivated by your project that I can't wait to start one for us. Looking forward to seeng what you do to make the van usable with the little kids. Good luck with whats ahead.
Might I give you a hint for everyone doing floors in vans...for years I have used Roofing felt (underlayment) under the timber (wood) to stop all the squeaks. You can get 30 lb or lighter but the key is making sure you get the "oil" based ones. This gives you a lifetime of lubrication between your layers so they don't squeak.
A little obsessed with planing.... but a cracking video and a really neat job. Loads of tips for me here.
Loving the last screw slow mo :)
Best thing I did was subscribe to your channel been talking about doing our own van for a while this video was spot on as are all the rest cheers
Wow you did a great job on the floor. Can't wait for the next video!
loving your van journey. I look forward to the next instalment
Fantastic job on the van so far looking forward to the other videos cheers
Hi Tim, Thanks for your channel, I'm following your tips on my Boxer L4 conversion. Very helpful and easy to follow.
so informative, im looking to convert my land rover to bit of a stealth camper your videos have been really helpful for inspiration.
Can i ask why you didnt complete the vapour barrier by applying tape around the edges from the floor to the sides of the van as now the floors down you cannot seal the gap, making all the work you have done pretty pointless in preventing moisture getting to the steel floor? great editing by the way, love the twins working on the van!!
Absolutly brilliant detailed video , the small details are really helpful thanks buddy
My pleasure. :-)
Great job can't wait for the next instalment
On the way! :-)
Really great work! Looking forward to the next instalment.
Fantastic editing !
I was watching another van build and when they were gluing the wood down they used some tile spacers under the wood so when the glue was applied it didn't just all squeeze out... This then gave them a nice solid bead of glue once dried....
neilizer please give title and link to that video!
You owe me..... Just had to scroll back 2 months of History
th-cam.com/video/TnpB1HymiKc/w-d-xo.html about 3:40 in
This is what I love about youtube and all the van conversion vids, you pick up so many good tips. Thanks for the link dude!
Nice work. I hate it when I make a perfect cut only to realize I had mirrored it.
Thanks for sharing. We have a people mover with very similar removable seats that you put in. The manufacturer didn't do as good a job of as you did making that end seat mounts flush to the floor. It is annoying but you eventually get used to walking over it. But hey, gotta love your exacting standards. When it comes time to sell (dare I say that) in theory,it will be easier to sell if people can see you have done a good job of the whole camper. As I have seen in other camper builds it's surprising what can go wrong if rushed or not well thought out. We also need to be careful with how thick the flooring is as my husband is 6'2 and one son is about 6'4 and at 15 the other is even taller than that. So who knows how tall he will get.
These are super helpful! Thanks you.
Exceptional work.
Great video. looking forward to the next one. Interested in the bed layout for your your family of 4.
It's in the previous video but essentially double bunk beds or double with two singles above. Leaving option for a more temporary 5th bed up front somewhere if needed.
Well done!! I love your attention to detail. Subbed. Binge watching now.
You've done well. Love it. And thanks for helping
I used 38 mm insulation and some close cell for any gaps. Then 1/2 inch plywood (OSB) on top. :)
I know with the way you did it you had less cuts and used less screws but I would have split the floor into three sections. Leaving the high traffic center area with a solid board (no seam) and the seams on the sides were they will more than likely end up under a cabinet. Before you started have you figured out how much weight all your materials will add?
thanks for the video. Not sure how exactly I'm doing my floor, I don't have the headspace you do. You definitely show great care and detail with your build.
Sweet build. I noticed a couple of things I’d of done differently but then you explained why you hadn’t at the end. I felt for you with the seat runners round the wrong way , p&ppppp but this is countered by shit happens !!! Glad to see you aren’t in the dynamat every inch club !
Tbh not sure how much difference the sound proofing makes if you insulate a decent amount. But then I didn’t want to regret not doing it further down the line. 👍
nice edit with seeing 2 of u
Oh man! This is such a good quality vids! Awesome content, engaging editing. The only thing i don't like is that I was about to the the same ;). Anyway thanks for sharing!
Ah thanks. I see it often and didn't see the point.... thanks again.
Great job ! Love your video.
Great video!
Floor wise, I bolt everything
through the van floor with a gusset /plate on the bottom side.
awesome stuff!! Thanks so much for putting this information together.
Well done!
You don't need that on the floor. Lizardskin and some closed cell foam will give you a better result. You just took to much headroom with adding that extra insulation which will do very little to insulate a metal floor.
👍🏽 true craftsman. Cheers
Thanks for the video! I’ll be converting a van here in the next week for college and haven’t done any carpentry/renovating work since high school. Is the gist of the floor something like: remove everything, clean the floor, measure and cut boards, measure and cut insulation? Glue boards to floor, place insulation, measure and cut plywood floor boards, tape for vapor barrier, place plywood, screw plywood to base boards. That about it?
Have you considered putting thin layers of wool Insolation in the gaps bellow Celotex boards? To fill up those grooves of the metal flooring? Would that add any significant benefit?
No, I don’t see any major benefit, there are far more important places to spend time insulating and the benefit would be so minimal.
I wonder if building this so tight is going to be a problem with heat expansion and contraction? I also wonder if running the seam down the center of your walkway is the best option? Wouldn’t running 2 seams to the side of a solid center board, under the kitchen & beds, give more integrity to the floor? I’d think squeaking might be much easier to address with rubber or felt bits at the edges...?
Good bit of cutting pal
great video all round
In watching a lot of these builds, the ones that are done right anyway, on the various channels one now knows why companies like Roadtrek charges so much for their Class B motorhomes.
Hi. As I see you "lose" quite a few centimeters in the interior height by putting the insolation in. 30mm celotex + 12mm plywood + flooring on the bottom. Additional 25mm on the seeling + the wooden panels (are these 10mm?) I was wondering what interior height you got left in the end. Thanks for all these great videos. They are helping a lot. Cheers.
Only insulation on the ceiling is between ribs so only loose 10mm or so up top. It’s over 6ft still so fine for us. Cladding is 8mm finished dimension.
Some bad ass editing 13 minutes in
The wood batons are under the vapor barrier so isn't there concern of those absorbing moisture? Also, when you screw the plywood down into the batons doesn't that create a bridge also for the moisture to travel through the barrier?
Looks great....you should share your height to put things into perspective.
I wish more van building TH-camrs would share their height.
This leaves it around 1850mm after insulation.
Very informative but I'm still confused on how you secured the 30mm to the van floor.
Great shot @13:19! If only you could REALLY clone yourself, right? 😄👍
Did you screw down the timbers or only rely on the adhesive?
That floor seems like over kill, particularly around the spare seat...but it looks great so... What do I know eh... Lol great job.
I was considering not using a polyiso (polyisocyanurate) based insulation product like you did because it reportedly absorbs and holds water, which on the floor of a van would not be a good thing (in case there was a spill and things were not completely sealed). Also, I understand that the R value of polyiso decreases with temperature.
If you have moisture/water getting to your insulation you have more problems than worrying about thermal properties. That said, PIR is closed cell so should not take on water like some other foams.
Really love your videos. They made me feel so much more comfortable when I started doing my floors this week. I am also going to use a strong adhesive to attach my timber to the floor so I can screw my plywood and eventually furniture to them. It seems like the best route to go. How has everything held up for you? Would you still do it this way if you could do it all again?
Would go the same route yes. I have had some very heavy loads of oak and building materials and the floor has help up very well.
I'm gona do the same in mine , was gona use tec 7 adhesive. Everyone I mention it to thinks i am mad from a safety point of view 🙈 I'm starting to doubt it now. "What about the vibration and crash" they say...
Hi. Very good detail. Just 1 question. Did you fasten the battens to the floor?. Or do you rely on the whole system to keep everything in place?
will your seats clip in facing forward and backwards?
Very impressive work, attention to detail and preplan. Is there a condensation issue with the sound proofing glued to the sheet metal? Also why not use spray foam?
Help. Im following your floor build. I opened up another van build just to check to see if I bought the right insulation. This guy said that it was bad to screw the battens down because it will cause rust. I have about 60 screws and my damn floor right now. Do you worry about rust. Should I take the screw out squirt and paint then screw back. Please let me know. Thank you for your expert videos an easy to follow instructions.
You have to paint(or seal) the screws from the underside of the floor. Unscrewing them, painting them, and putting them back is not good enough to ensure the screw is rust proofed. You will have to get underneath the van and paint/seal them in place.
So I'm guessing you glued the wood to the floor before adding the insulation. I never saw a drill or any bolts. Will Elmers work?
Is floor insulation absolutely necessary for Van life ?
Nice job,did you use the adhesive only to glue te battons on the metal,or did you also use the adhesive to glue the insulation on the metal?
You said that your preference is not to use expanding foam, is there a particular reason for this?
Van looking great so far.
Hi 🙂 we are using your videos as we go along with our van build. So first off thanks! Secondly where did you end up getting your Celotex from as everywhere we have looked it's around £75 for delivery! Thanks so much
most builder suppliers will stock celotex or other trade names like kingspan etc the size mentioned as 25mm is usually known generically as under floor insulation boards your local supplier will have one of the popular brands usually in 2.5m x 1.25m (8'x4') and may not charge too much for delivery but it should be available to collect using your van? hope this helps...Good luck
Another great project what adhesive did you use for the battens would like to do something similar in my work van to make a false floor did the adhesive give a secure fixing ?
Great work and video's but one thing I wasn't clear on was how did you attach the batten's to the floor? were they glued, screwed or simply jigsawed together. Im about to start converting my SWB Sprinter hightop and learning from you. Thank you
Adhesive.
Hi thanks for video, very helpful. when you referred to alternative flooring option “sandwich” of ply/insulation/ply is that without any battens? And if so do you think it would be strong enough? Thanks
there are so many screws which type do you use, size and head type. I caught the length but nothing else
Hi, which Adhesive for Floor Battens did you use? the link is the video description is no longer working, could you please let me know?
Link repaced. I just used a standard sikaflex adhesive which is more than adequete. Spend more on the adhesives that are used externally.
Super clean! which sikaflex did you use? the link is broken. Thanks
Never knew you had a twin brother @ 13:16
:-) I had meant to mention at the beginning that he makes an appearance! lol.
@@TheRestorationCouple could not even tell where you did the split screen. amazing.
Did you use the glue to hold down the battens to the floor too?
New subscriber Bud.....😊
Great attention to detail looking forward to your progress on the van 👍 Have you done a video on purchasing your Van?
Cheers Stevie 😀
There's probably a way around it I guess i I had welding done on my wheel arches last year and they took my ply lining out and didn't put it back in right lol
Very nicely done, looks solid. Did a similar thing for my workshop recently with the foil tape creating a vapour barrier but also had to go over all the celotex as a fox had run all over it in the night and punched in loads of claw holes! Did you use grab adhesive for the plywood before screwing?
Liked the music and the double cut video thing, what's that called?
Oh no! I caught our 2 year old poking many holes in with her pencil so that needed some tape too! No more grab adhesive for the ply as the screws should do plenty, plus I like the idea that if we ever changed the van we could transplant most of the build without needing to rip it all out. Glad you liked my twin! No idea what it's called but it was too tempting to not stick it in. :-)
haha, oh dear, at least it's easy to fix and the tape is cheap.
hehe do some more of that, maybe do an explainer on one side of the screen whilst the action is on the other!
We did a few earlier this year with the before and after of each room split, took some time though but quite fun.
Hi excellent video thanks. What did you use to stick the Battons to the floor?
Great video. How did you attach the battens to the floor? Adhesive?