Scammers will tell you it's someone else's to distance themselves from it because they know it's not real and your right, his body language was sneaky. Good call Pete
Or it could possibly be someone else's. The title here on this channel are catchy titles to draw interest and get people to watch. This dude prob had absolutely no idea about this watch, cross, etc. It doesn't mean that he is a scammer. This customer was way to interested in information about the website, the watch, etc to be a scammer.
His "sly" grinning with a punchable face and crash test dummy dunce cap shirt while acting like he's a 16 year odd teenager even though he's probably 29 tells me this guy has yet to experience getting taken for a ride by real hustlers. It's gonna happen to him one day and he's got it coming. Watch the part where CH even tells him about how he can't do a deal because he knows dude called someone else who's the actual watch owner or someone else owns the watch. Shady stuff.
Brings in a fake Rolex but then asks about a Patek and if it’s a expensive watch for the area… While wearing A shirt that looks like he just got off his job directing traffic for a pot hole crew.. nothing at all odd about that interaction.
Sometimes sh*t like that can be true..maybe his GF family member died like grandfather and she was given his watches..maybe he had a Patek also so guy was asking to see if it was worth it for him to bring that in...NOT saying I believe that...just that it could be a possibility....I knew a homeless bum who would tell me for years he was rich but he just enjoyed living like a vagabond/bum. After he died, it was found out he did have millions saved and he donated it to the people who didn't treat him differently because of their perception of him and who would help him out thinking he was homeless.. And he didn't have any mental issues... Just goes to show...
Years ago I bought a “Rolex” at an auction in Virginia. The auctioneer advertised it as a “Rolex” in the sales ad (and announced at the auction) and it was not. I took it back to the auction house with a jeweler cert stating that it was not a Rolex. The auctioneer made it right and paid $20 for the certification.
All sales are final unless the auction house committed fraud willingly or not. You should have got your money back for the watch and the 20 bucks for the certification. Did you know that you'll get walked on across your back if you don't stand up for yourself? You didn't stand up for yourself and they walked across your back.
He got his money back so how was he walked over? Auctions are buyer beware but a reputable business can't sell a Rolex as real and then refuse a refund when it's found to be fake. What world are you living in? @@truescotsman4103
His girlfriend has a Rolex watch? That is some story and simply a way to remove himself from the exchange. If the actual paperwork existed, he'd had brought it. You made the right call, Pete.
@@mollycollins498 I don’t think he is trying to insinuate that women should not or cannot own a Rolex watch. I think, instead that he was questioning the appearance and statements of this guy, and suspectful that his girlfriend would own such an expensive watch.
I think he was scamming, and you answered a lot of his questions so he could scam better in the future… Too many questions, trying to make himself look oblivious but I am glad you said, that you would have needed the girlfriend to bring it in anyway!
Pete, I love your videos. He was 100% a scammer. An innocent person would have felt some type of shame/embarrassment presenting you with a fake watch. He didn’t show any. Instead, he was asking you questions so that he can make his story even more believable for the next guy. If he really did have it opened up and he wasn’t a scammer he would probably come back in and say something like “hey. You were right. I had it opened up and it wasn’t real. Thanks for the help and sorry about that.” Now I recognize that not everyone would do this last part but a lot would. I say scammer but time will tell.
That doesn't make any sense. An honest person who doesn't know they have a fake would not be embarrassed unless they were shown proof or high confidence it was fake.
@@Axagoras Exactly. If I had to guess, I think there is an 80 percent chance that he knew or suspected it wasn't real. But if he didn't know, he'd wouldn't be embarrassed- he'd be disappointed. But to be fair, Peter never told him flat out if was for sure fake.
Yeah I had that happen one time as I was reading my Bible at the laundry mat late at night, I said I don't buy fake jewelry, told him I don't even care if it's real, but I offered him $5😂 I said that's enough gas to get you home and why you even driving with no gas money, well at least I got to preach to a hellbound liar
Next time they try to offer me a chain for gas I’m just gonna grab it, and “ test it out” by pulling it and breaking it 😅 I hate scams with a passion and I’m a dude that takes no shit.
The "I need money for gas" in general is abused and fake 90% of the time. There was one guy who by work who would pan handle and told me no less than 3 different times, that he was stranded without gas and lived some 4 states away. This was over a period of three years! 😂
A bit hard to tell if he was scamming, but 2 things lead me to believe it may have been intentional. The way he leaned in and got excited to talk about specifics and details about the watch , yet he really didn't know what he was talking about. The second thing is the "gold" chain seemed pretty scammy w the clasps being marked but the chain being a dud. Watch yourself as always Pete. Keep up the good work
I totally disagree. He seemed like he didn't know. He had to be a great actor to act like he didn't know much. Also he seemed genuine in looking up the gold app. A pro definitely would know that type of stuff. I'm confused why its a debate on if he is scamming but the next guy with the chain was educating assuming he didn't know.
The last guy with the fake gold got scammed by those dudes who say they need gas and there from out of town! And they'll give you this gold for money 😂 it was also featured on gas station encounters
They sort of got me. I knew what the deal was so I gave $20 and wasn't taking the ring or the chain. They begged me. I asked if they were Arabic they said yes. I'm Italian and I speak some Arabic to get by with. They didn't know what the heck I was saying. Lol He gave me the ring instead of the chain and blessed me while driving away. The next day they got my friend for $80.00. He was telling the story to one of our friends. So I had asked about the car and what they looked like. I was spot on. He got robbed. I didn't get robbed because I knew the deal. I gave the $20 because I'm a good hearted person and I knew their day will come. 2 days after I seen them in another gas station. They forgot who I was but I remembered the car and faces. Now one of them had their wife and kid with them. So I took out my phone started taking pics of them and the car. The other guy was getting violent as I was laughing. I went back into the store and asked the guy if he wanted to buy a chain and ring. Omg he was shaking in his boots cause his wife and kid was with him. I one the other hand had 6 friends in the store not knowing they were there at the time. So he took out his wallet and I said keep it open and see that $100 you got there!!! That's Mine! The other guy stood behind me getting ready to do something as my friends came up to the counter and asked me if everything was ok. I said fine as long as this guy gives me a $100 for the chain and ring he's going to buy. Mind you he had about $4 or $500 in his wallet. I just wanted something to show him be careful who you try and get over on. Because you'll never know later on. So he gave me the $100 and I insisted he'd take the items. I told his friend if you ever need gas again this is where I stay and I'll be glad to help out anytime.
a tell tale sign of a scammer is they will "fake hustle" at the end. Meaning if someone catches them on a possible lie or scam they will end the conversation but faking like they are not scammers. So this may be the reason why he started talking about getting it authenticated etc. He knows that if he just walked out not saying anything then it would be obvious.
Rolex guy seemed far too lackadaisical and unreactive to what SHOULD have been a relative surprise even shock that the watch was bootleg. Also did I misinterpret that he actually walked a ways away to phone his supposed 'girlfriend' regarding the watch and closed the call as he was returning to the counter? If any girlfriend I ever had was given the news that something she thought for however long was valuable and genuine suddenly turned out to be a piece of crap folks would have heard her reaction miles away even WITHOUT the phone on speaker phone. lol
You were spot on about the watch. I worked in a jewelry store and those watches have a lot of weight and the bands also. I have visited pawn stores in my area and have found gold chains with the same way with the clasps. Needless to say I informed them that it was fake and he asked me how did I know, when I showed him he said Oh, I would never come back into the store ever.
Definitely a scammer! They talk to much he kept rambling on making small conversation. Right about now he’s on google trying to figure out how to get a fake certificate from Rolex 😁
Its a well-known secret in the watch industry. There are watches out there with serial numbers identical to the originals. Only ziarex has the real deal, and thats no secret.
My uncle Ned is the largest Rolex collector in the world, he currently only has three Rolexes in his collection but at one point he had over 4000 Rolexes.
My Dad (R.I.P) owned a restaurant in the 70s and some guy came up to him and sold him some gold necklaces and a watch and once he paid the guy he got arrested because it was a sting op
You dad was a "fence" which buys stolen goods. Sorry man...if it was a sting op they had been watching your dad sometime, he was given up by a thief to lessen jail time.
thats why they are dumb, the cheapest rolex money can buy is still marked up at 500% profit. just the weight in precious metals the most expensive rolex probably cost them like $4.5k to make and they will sell it for upwards of $85-110k
Oddly enough, some of the more affordable vintage Rolexes are almost always authentic. Simply because of the lower production numbers and the nature of the time they were made, faking watches in the 70s-90s was terrible quality and could be told as a fake from a mile away. For example the Oysterquartz 17013 has pretty much never been replicated. Less than 20,000 were made and it has such a distinct case, also quartz is vilified in watch circles despite how cool the 5035 movement is. Even the more popular 16013 vintage datejust can't be accurately replicated to this day. Vintage airkings I believe as well but don't quote me on that. Just another reason I like vintage rolex
Pawn shop owners aren’t impressed by someone driving a Porsche or a Jaguar. If you give off sketchy vibes trying to unload a Rolex, it won’t end well for you.
I think it was stolen and whoever had the watch told them it was real. So he prob thought it was real because he stole it from someone who said it was.
I like the way you interact with these customers, potential scammers or not. You state the facts and you educate them and viewers. You further demonstrate your knowledge and acknowledge where you need your own research.
You're a lot nicer than I was in my shop dealing with scammers and thieves, which to me they are the same. I just kicked them out, and banned them from the premises.
I've been a Pawnbroker and have sold Rolex's also on the side. You were right to weight the watch, because it could have a good case but the movement may be a replacement. Many Rolex's get "Blinged" when they have their cases replaced with Diamond encrusted and some shady dealers will replace the movement with a decent movement, not the Japan kind, but other smooth movements that can be good to the eye, but just doesn't carry the value. These are often sold as "REAL" when in fact they are not. I would not have taken such an expensive item from someone who knows nothing about them because of the risk of it being stolen and the police when they get the Pawn ticket run the item and you are out anywhere from $500.00 to $15-$20 Grand. Anyone who OWNS a Rolex should know the Serial Number, Model Number and History of the watch. There are Stolen watch databases that charge you a dollar or two to look up the watch, worth it if you are possibly paying thousands for a watch. Being a Pawnbroker though, I would not necessarily trust them as the watch may not be reported stolen yet if it is fresh. You did the right thing in the end. Pawnbrokering is a risk vs reward business and some risks are just not worth it.
Rolex did not always design or make their own movements in house. For example, up until the 80s most Rolex movements were made under license to Valjoux. The Rolex movements were marked 'Rolex' but Valjoux also made movements that they stamped with their own name of the names of other watch companies. Scammers will get a hold of a bare Rolex case and then obtain a Valjoux marked movement. The Valjoux markings will be ground off and 'Rolex' will be stamped over. A watch like that has the correct Swiss made movement but it's not a really a Rolex, it's a Frankenwatch, which is worth almost nothing.
He just dumped it back in his backpack as if he knew it was worthless lol, Mind you he was just told it was fake but that's where he had it prior also. If it was real he would be protecting it better in some sort of case.
No doubt he was a scammer. I have 50+ years experience and with guys like this I feel so embarrassed for. *He's a traveling salesman selling 30.00 knock off Rolex watches.* I like how he added one real piece in an attempt to gain your trust.
I was also just thinking the weight needs to feel heavy. Even a woman’s Rolex is very heavy and feels solid. When my brother was shopping for a Rolex watch he found that used Rolexes were more than a brand new one. I told him I could get him a brand new Rolex from my jeweler for less and no sales tax. No sales tax in Montana. I shipped it to him. It was supposed to be a signature delivery. Guess where the DC mailman left the Rolex package❓In the condo’s lobby and unsecured where there’s a communal pile of packages‼️It caused my sister in law a lot of stress. I told her next time buy me a ticket there to hand deliver it.
It is getting harder and harder to determine fakes, for a guy to walk off the street with that type of watch (if it was real) it was probably stolen or a very nice copy or knock off. I would be not be surprised if he comes back with a fake document trying to scam you. That is why I stay away from that type of Item to resell. Pete great vid as always!
@@pitchbuckets2860 If you can fake a Rolex watch so good that even a dealer has to take it apart to tell sometimes, I wouldn't be so sure they can't fake the papers or certs.
Usually when I have come face to face with a fraudster they're quite sure of themselves and arrogant. He seemed unsure and quite shy, not a quick smooth talker... Just my first take on it. You deal with situations like this a lot though Pete! You went with your gut feeling and followed through. Great call.... I always enjoy the clips man!
Completely my take on the situation as well, Eve. Though I hold nothing against Pete for going with his instincts & knowledge about said watch brand either.
Question: if you have a potential seller come into the store that is trying to sell multiple items but you can tell most of them are fakes/scams yet one item is real - like that good cross - why would you buy anything from them? If it comes back stolen don’t you lose out completely?
I think you made the right choice, I am no expert on watches but I did see a video where they were talking about people adding diamonds etc and devaluing the watch, apparently if it is done by Rolex etc then it is fine and will be documented but getting others to do it will not help in the value.
Yes if the diamonds are factory then the value stays. Factory diamond bezel factory diamond dial etc will keep the value of the watch. But if you are like these rappers who go and buy a 70k dollar Patek Phillipe and then take it to a jeweler to have a million holes drilled into the watch to then add 30k worth of diamonds into it. Doesn't make that watch 100k now. If it is like some plain Jane rolex day-date it does devalue the watch but if you take some 1 in 50 Patek Phillipe that had a very limited release which costs upwards of 250k or more and you do the same thing to it as the rolex and drill holes in it to put diamonds on it the value of the watch fucking plummets into the dirt that watch is now worth just whatever the diamonds are worth 30k or less. No self respecting collector would ever buy a 1 in 50 limited release watch that's been encrusted with diamonds. Yes there is a market for iced out pieces but it is very small and far between where as the market for watchs that are still factory is much much bigger.
You nailed the Rolex guy when you pointed out the weight discrepancy. Great to see it. Also, I liked that you told him (even if it was real) that you wouldn't make an offer because he admitted the watch wasn't his. Was that some sort of sting operation??
He mentioned nothing about it being fully linked or missing links, this very well could have been the difference in weight cause it really wasnt a huge difference...
Scammer for sure!! The other guy was legit and he got conned by one of those gas stations scams. These are very common these days! Always love the videos!!
Christmas Eve 2019 got gas and a car pulled up and a man and a child in the car. New York plates. He wanted to sell a nice gold ring, 14 kt and a bit heavy. I didn't buy it, gave him a 50 dollar bill instead and he was shocked and wanted me to take the ring. I just told him it's Christmas Eve and I genuinely wished him and the child Merry Christmas, got in my truck and gave a wave as I drove away.
I think he was Pete, anyone who buys something as expensive as a Rolex, they are gonna keep the paperwork and small box it came in, unless you or someone else threw it out or lost it. I wear a lot of gold, 2 necklaces, a bracelet, and a few rings and I've kept every receipt and box I got and just put them in my safe.
That guy knew the Rolex was fake. I live in NYC they sell fake Rolexs down on Canal St. In Dubai they have retail stores that sell fake Rolexs. I would be very wary about buying used Rolex, there are so many fakes out there.
Knowing women if the watch was real she would of been right next to him with him ready to get paid some money. I'm sure he at least figured it was fake but just wanted to see if someone would offer him something or was dumb enough to just think it was real. Also I doubt if someone thought it was real they would just carry it around loosely, they would be protecting the finish and overall watch better taking care of it because it would be worth some good money.
I got scammed by a guy outside a pawn shop he sold me 2 gold chains and I went inside to sell them and they were fake luckily I thought this guy is doing this outside a pawn shop so he’s doing this as a hustle and I’m like he’s gonna be at another shop so the first shop I went to he was there got my money back but the look on his face was priceless😂💯
anybody selling a rolex would surely do research on it, and if anything a pawn shop would be the place you take it if it got rejected at a jewellers. just my opinion though.
Another thing scammers will do with gold is they will have some real gold pieces and then have some fake gold ones that are identical to the real ones.People will make an offer on the real stuff then they will take it back and say let me think about it.And then be like ok I will take it and then pull out the fake stuff in hopes that it won't be tested again.Real good scammers with fast sleight of hand can pull this off very very well so always be sure to double check.
My ex-father in law got me a Rolex Hulk as a wedding gift. Made it clear “always keep the papers, box and everything in between”. If I ever sell it I’ll have where, when, and serial#….always be authentic. Keep it in my gun safe. Most people I see trying to pawn (which is stupid to begin with, so many folks who want Rolex are on a wait list), never have papers. In my eyes red flags, 95% of the time it’s obviously stolen. That’s like saying you have a car, but no title.
I don't know Pete I think sometimes people really just don't know if they don't have a way to test their medals. I do like how you didn't give him too much crap it shows once again how honest of a person you are!
The gentleman in the tank top for sure did not know, he unfortunately fell for a common scam where someone offers to sell you jewlery at a "big loss" to them because they "need the cash right now" in this case because they supposedly were stranded and needed gas. Sadly the guy fell for it because he thought he could both help them out and come out monetarily ahead, unfortunately the scammers just stole his money
Such an obvious scammer with so many signs: the immediate mention of OTHER expensive (and likewise replicated) brands, shifty body language, attire doesn't match value of goods he claims he has, not treating a $6k watch with utmost care. Thanks for showing this to us.
Tough one, ive been buying and selling for over 30 years and could not call this one way or the other, ive allway gone with " never trust anyone no matter how nice they come across" you checked and went with your gut feeling which 99.9% of time is right. Using the word scammer is cool for click bate i guess but what if this guy is genuine and is now classed as a scammer on-line - maybe " Was this Rolex real ? " would of been fairer to put in title. Love your videos and look forward to many more Regards Geoff viewer in the UK :)
I agree with you. So many people commenting are sure of themselves that he was scamming. I would say there is a good chance he an idea it wasn't real, but I don't think anyone can say for sure based on what is presented. ALSO the other dumb comment I'm seeing is how he should have reacted to Pete telling him it was fake- Pete NEVER told him it was fake, probably to avoid conflict-so he probably would hold hope it might be real
Your channel beats those pawn shop reality shows any day of the week. So interesting to see how negotiations happen in real time without distracting edits
I'd say definitely trying to scam you because if he went through the trouble to get actual paperwork he could sell it for a whole lot more to a dealer or online🤷🏻♀️. Anyways just my opinion. I love your videos & honey is absolutely puurfect 🥰
Sounds logical, but you could say that to about 90 percent of people who bring things into a pawn shop. Everyone could get more for their stuff selling it themselves.
Of course he was trying to scam you. You know that Peter, c'mon man. The other jewelry scam is really prevalent these days. " I just need gas money, but I'll give you something much more valuable." Like that happens everyday. Poor guy just had sucker written in his forehead that day. The lesson learned is priceless though.
I love how educational these videos are because how smart Pete is, absolutely amazing stuff !! Lol I feel almost more equipped to start my own business after watching these vids
Desperate times…… desperate measures. People are struggling out there I guess. That kids mannerisms just made me feel uncomfortable and would put me on full alert as to what he was selling. Body language is very easy to read sometimes. Ruby rocks! Honey is a star! Great Chanel Pete.
I think it's good to be darkly suspicious of anything someone just walking in off the sidewalk offers you. I wouldn't even trust the "k" on gold, or the designation of something as sterling silver.
Pete, after watching this twice, I have to say that absolutely 100% this guy was trying to sell you a fake watch. He absolutely knows it's fake and probably thought what's the harm in trying to sell it to you. Everything he says during this encounter is completely irregular compared to any normal buy/sell conversation. Good call man, this dude is lame
@@Yinzzy656 "I Let You Win" is right. He's a scammer. He is not using any one sign, but intuition . I agree with him. Everything about this guy seemed off.
How much for the gold cross you bought at the end of the video. I had the same one. It was the last thing my grandmother bought me. I'm very interested in buying it. Thank you
I would never accuse someone of being a scammer. You told him that, you think, it was a fake, that being said, you should've told him to go and visit your jeweler, he would know if it was really a fake or not. One thing for sure, Honey at the end, just chilling out , is not fake.
I think he was trying to scam you. The one thing that I've noticed with people who come in trying to scam is that they always try to create separation between them and the item that they are selling. Or they try to set up plausible deniability before you start the authentication process. For example this guy tries to distance himself from the watch by saying it's his girlfriends. The lady who came in with the box full of newspaper was saying how she thought the box was sealed and she never opened it. Always creating distance and always creating plausible deniability.
No doubt about it, he was a scammer, just look at his smug face and body language. I am sorry but I hate people like this... You should have told him to do a hard day's work for once and kicked him as hard as you could up the ass and out the door... Is there a law where you are trying to deceive a person claiming the authenticity of a product, knowing full well it is a forgery, if you do this the other way around and you're a legit business, you could be facing a fine or criminal prosecution?
A view from the UK. Nobody, but nobody who has an original Rolex, Omega, Patek Philippe etc., will ever take it to a trader like this one - with all due respect to him. Any owner will know, as they are told by the official seller that there are so many fakes out there to keep the paperwork - even the box and purchase receipt. Those wanting to sell will go to reputable dealers for the best deal and they scrutinise everything. Full marks for this trader stating he would take it to a main dealer for verification before buying. Normally at that point the seller says no, ok, i'll leave it and sell later, then you know it's a fake.
Those same fakes are sold online for the price of the real thing, yet the individual for an example lives in Lagos, Nigeria the Rolex comes from China and sold on eBay for 10 thousand dollars marked as original brand new Rolex watch and yet it’s a fake. To say their is a 100% chance that the watch that you pay 10, 20, or even 30 thousand dollars is fake but buying it Works like an art of charity because it is necessary for people who are total broke to make ends meet. Yet even fake Gucci bags are sold online at the same price as the original.
You are correct Pete, it was more than likely a fake and the fact that he didn't try to bargain with you on the price of the cross. BTW, you are generous on your gold offer.
Hands down trying to pull a quick one on you. From laying responsibility to his “gf”, chain w markings hoping you only tested the clasps…. Atleast he wasn’t strung out … then you would’ve had the trifecta. 😂☘️
When my parents were in the estate jewelry business, they came across a lot of people that very innocently thought they had solid gold or real diamonds, etc, and they tested fake with the kits my dad used to test and inspect them with. One of the big ones was solid?? small , gold bricks that were lead inside.
Scammers will tell you it's someone else's to distance themselves from it because they know it's not real and your right, his body language was sneaky. Good call Pete
Oh really? Thanks captain obvious!
@@hopgh1968 Your welcome Captain J*ckA*s
Why didnt you test the rolex on the machine, you knew it was fake already?
@@hopgh1968 🤣🤣😂
Or it could possibly be someone else's. The title here on this channel are catchy titles to draw interest and get people to watch. This dude prob had absolutely no idea about this watch, cross, etc. It doesn't mean that he is a scammer. This customer was way to interested in information about the website, the watch, etc to be a scammer.
The way he put the watch in his back pack with out wrapping it up with some kind of protection
told me he knew it did not have any value
His "sly" grinning with a punchable face and crash test dummy dunce cap shirt while acting like he's a 16 year odd teenager even though he's probably 29 tells me this guy has yet to experience getting taken for a ride by real hustlers. It's gonna happen to him one day and he's got it coming. Watch the part where CH even tells him about how he can't do a deal because he knows dude called someone else who's the actual watch owner or someone else owns the watch. Shady stuff.
ya, and with that high value, you don't put it in exterior pocket, as someone might temper with the back pack, when you wear it on your back...
he kinda told him it was fake so yeah i put it away in the bag the same way unless your saying he pulled up like that then that makes sense
Brings in a fake Rolex but then asks about a Patek and if it’s a expensive watch for the area… While wearing A shirt that looks like he just got off his job directing traffic for a pot hole crew.. nothing at all odd about that interaction.
Good comment.
Needs to up his MO a little 😜
I'm 100% sure he was a scammer.
Sometimes sh*t like that can be true..maybe his GF family member died like grandfather and she was given his watches..maybe he had a Patek also so guy was asking to see if it was worth it for him to bring that in...NOT saying I believe that...just that it could be a possibility....I knew a homeless bum who would tell me for years he was rich but he just enjoyed living like a vagabond/bum. After he died, it was found out he did have millions saved and he donated it to the people who didn't treat him differently because of their perception of him and who would help him out thinking he was homeless.. And he didn't have any mental issues... Just goes to show...
At least he has a job lol
Guy in safety shirt says he has 30,000$ watches just laying around-
Totally believable!!
And he prefers to deal with pawn shops instead of Rolex AD.
30,000$?? lmao
LOOOOOOOOL
Years ago I bought a “Rolex” at an auction in Virginia. The auctioneer advertised it as a “Rolex” in the sales ad (and announced at the auction) and it was not. I took it back to the auction house with a jeweler cert stating that it was not a Rolex. The auctioneer made it right and paid $20 for the certification.
I think by “making it right” he means that the auctioneer refunded his money PLUS the $ 20.00 for the certification.@@22ergie
The auctioneer was authentically apologetic and I believed that he did not know.
As you know, most all auctions are “buyer beware” with no refunds.
All sales are final unless the auction house committed fraud willingly or not. You should have got your money back for the watch and the 20 bucks for the certification. Did you know that you'll get walked on across your back if you don't stand up for yourself? You didn't stand up for yourself and they walked across your back.
@@truescotsman4103I think you need to re-read the comment my friend he got his money back and $20
He got his money back so how was he walked over?
Auctions are buyer beware but a reputable business can't sell a Rolex as real and then refuse a refund when it's found to be fake. What world are you living in? @@truescotsman4103
What a horrible job dealing with 75% scammers and 90% idiots.
who else would sell their stuff in a pawn shop?
Welcome to retail, people are absolute shit
@@minilymo me for gun money lol
I’m pretty sure those percentages don’t add up
@@johncastillo2194 those 2 sets are not mutually exclusive
This scammer is shameless. He was trying to pump you with info on how he can be a better scammer.
His girlfriend has a Rolex watch? That is some story and simply a way to remove himself from the exchange. If the actual paperwork existed, he'd had brought it. You made the right call, Pete.
What's wrong with a woman having a rolex? I personally don't like the look of most women's watches and tend to buy men's
Yea that’s don’t get the logic there.
If you paid attention, he said it was handed down to her…. So maybe she thought wth do I want with a Rolex, go sell it for me
Something tells me he’s going to go home and try to “create” some paperwork. 😂
@@mollycollins498 I don’t think he is trying to insinuate that women should not or cannot own a Rolex watch. I think, instead that he was questioning the appearance and statements of this guy, and suspectful that his girlfriend would own such an expensive watch.
Shows how careful you have to be and how much knowledge you need in your line of business.
Peter is the master of dealing with deception. Plus you're just a damn nice guy and always willing to help people. Cheers🍻
Yup Pete
Good practices too. If you haven't got proof and it belongs to your girl. What you doing in the pawn??Pete ain't making no offers.
Takes one to know one lol
I think he was scamming, and you answered a lot of his questions so he could scam better in the future…
Too many questions, trying to make himself look oblivious but I am glad you said, that you would have needed the girlfriend to bring it in anyway!
it was really weird when he asked about another type of watch and asked if it was too high end for that area
@@th34st for sure! It almost seems like he was thinking about one he had seen that he can snatch 👀
20 bucks says you voted for trump
Exactly ! Piece Mealing Costume Jewelry he got outta a Bubblegum Machine💍...
@@weedsgaming42020 bucks says you have TDS
Pete, I love your videos. He was 100% a scammer. An innocent person would have felt some type of shame/embarrassment presenting you with a fake watch. He didn’t show any. Instead, he was asking you questions so that he can make his story even more believable for the next guy. If he really did have it opened up and he wasn’t a scammer he would probably come back in and say something like “hey. You were right. I had it opened up and it wasn’t real. Thanks for the help and sorry about that.” Now I recognize that not everyone would do this last part but a lot would. I say scammer but time will tell.
your premise for reasoning is screwed up
That doesn't make any sense. An honest person who doesn't know they have a fake would not be embarrassed unless they were shown proof or high confidence it was fake.
Ya he never came back
@@Axagoras Exactly. If I had to guess, I think there is an 80 percent chance that he knew or suspected it wasn't real. But if he didn't know, he'd wouldn't be embarrassed- he'd be disappointed. But to be fair, Peter never told him flat out if was for sure fake.
Mega-clone sellers like ziarex must be in jail because they sell watches with identical serial numbers as original watches, which is illegal.
Hook me up bra
stop advertising fake watch website, so people go there and buy
Nah you can always tell. Just wind it. The best way. Plus the way the time is set is back to front on all fakes. Even 3135 clones.
Thanks, I’m gonna go get a fake
They don't make them in America so...
The “I’ll give you my gold jewelry for gas money” scam is the biggest scam out there. Be careful guys. 99.9% of the time it’s a scam.
Yeah I had that happen one time as I was reading my Bible at the laundry mat late at night, I said I don't buy fake jewelry, told him I don't even care if it's real, but I offered him $5😂 I said that's enough gas to get you home and why you even driving with no gas money, well at least I got to preach to a hellbound liar
@BOGDAN SERBAN Exactly right. Which is why you should selflessly paypal me $500 right now.
Next time they try to offer me a chain for gas I’m just gonna grab it, and “ test it out” by pulling it and breaking it 😅 I hate scams with a passion and I’m a dude that takes no shit.
@@Axagoras😂😂😂
The "I need money for gas" in general is abused and fake 90% of the time. There was one guy who by work who would pan handle and told me no less than 3 different times, that he was stranded without gas and lived some 4 states away. This was over a period of three years! 😂
A bit hard to tell if he was scamming, but 2 things lead me to believe it may have been intentional. The way he leaned in and got excited to talk about specifics and details about the watch , yet he really didn't know what he was talking about.
The second thing is the "gold" chain seemed pretty scammy w the clasps being marked but the chain being a dud.
Watch yourself as always Pete.
Keep up the good work
Yupp
This kid is a pro
Or thinks he's better than he is
You're a real detective
he was scamming, when he said just the bezel he was shaking
I totally disagree. He seemed like he didn't know. He had to be a great actor to act like he didn't know much. Also he seemed genuine in looking up the gold app. A pro definitely would know that type of stuff. I'm confused why its a debate on if he is scamming but the next guy with the chain was educating assuming he didn't know.
See how fast the scammer scooped up the money and ran out of the store? He was so uncomfortable because he knew he was busted!
The last guy with the fake gold got scammed by those dudes who say they need gas and there from out of town! And they'll give you this gold for money 😂 it was also featured on gas station encounters
I was looking for this comment 😂
@@ConDogB and it's the exact same ring and necklace too 😂
Had one of those scammers stop me too, he even had kids with him which made me believe him for a split second, but wound up not giving him any money
They where pulling this off ten yr ago in Edinburgh Scotland ,and the empty dvd video,flat tvs,lol
They sort of got me. I knew what the deal was so I gave $20 and wasn't taking the ring or the chain. They begged me. I asked if they were Arabic they said yes. I'm Italian and I speak some Arabic to get by with. They didn't know what the heck I was saying. Lol He gave me the ring instead of the chain and blessed me while driving away. The next day they got my friend for $80.00. He was telling the story to one of our friends. So I had asked about the car and what they looked like. I was spot on. He got robbed. I didn't get robbed because I knew the deal. I gave the $20 because I'm a good hearted person and I knew their day will come. 2 days after I seen them in another gas station. They forgot who I was but I remembered the car and faces. Now one of them had their wife and kid with them. So I took out my phone started taking pics of them and the car. The other guy was getting violent as I was laughing. I went back into the store and asked the guy if he wanted to buy a chain and ring. Omg he was shaking in his boots cause his wife and kid was with him. I one the other hand had 6 friends in the store not knowing they were there at the time. So he took out his wallet and I said keep it open and see that $100 you got there!!! That's Mine! The other guy stood behind me getting ready to do something as my friends came up to the counter and asked me if everything was ok. I said fine as long as this guy gives me a $100 for the chain and ring he's going to buy. Mind you he had about $4 or $500 in his wallet. I just wanted something to show him be careful who you try and get over on. Because you'll never know later on. So he gave me the $100 and I insisted he'd take the items. I told his friend if you ever need gas again this is where I stay and I'll be glad to help out anytime.
a tell tale sign of a scammer is they will "fake hustle" at the end. Meaning if someone catches them on a possible lie or scam they will end the conversation but faking like they are not scammers. So this may be the reason why he started talking about getting it authenticated etc. He knows that if he just walked out not saying anything then it would be obvious.
Rolex guy seemed far too lackadaisical and unreactive to what SHOULD have been a relative surprise even shock that the watch was bootleg. Also did I misinterpret that he actually walked a ways away to phone his supposed 'girlfriend' regarding the watch and closed the call as he was returning to the counter? If any girlfriend I ever had was given the news that something she thought for however long was valuable and genuine suddenly turned out to be a piece of crap folks would have heard her reaction miles away even WITHOUT the phone on speaker phone. lol
8:40 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 what a clown. I would have told him, "actually, you owe me $5 bucks for wasting my time with this garbage."
Definitely a scammer.... he's not coming back.
I sure hope he does!
Ziarex have best clones but never in stock :(
Sold a few watches to dealers here in the UK as originals
I only buy from them.
How much this?
ZiaRex has relations with the Italian mafia, it was in the news. From Italy, they ship them all over Europe and the UK.
You got a ziarex website or whats app?
He wasn't making eye contact for the most part. Scam.
You were spot on about the watch. I worked in a jewelry store and those watches have a lot of weight and the bands also. I have visited pawn stores in my area and have found gold chains with the same way with the clasps. Needless to say I informed them that it was fake and he asked me how did I know, when I showed him he said Oh, I would never come back into the store ever.
Definitely a scammer! They talk to much he kept rambling on making small conversation. Right about now he’s on google trying to figure out how to get a fake certificate from Rolex 😁
He would only get scammed by another scammer, claiming that he can print out a genuine looking cert for $50. 😂
@@SamWesting $50 is to low, he will ask him $200 at least.
@@p.g.4881 That’s $200 he’ll be wasting, then. Anyone buying & re-selling Rolexes can spot the fakes.
Facts😂 nervous chatter
Its a well-known secret in the watch industry. There are watches out there with serial numbers identical to the originals. Only ziarex has the real deal, and thats no secret.
stop advertising fake watch website, so people go there and buy
My uncle Ned is the largest Rolex collector in the world, he currently only has three Rolexes in his collection but at one point he had over 4000 Rolexes.
Stop SCAMMING PEOPLE.... ZIAREX don't sell any watches... Bloody scammers
youre never gonna see that dude or his fake watch again LMAO
Er yeah. No shit sherlock.
I once bought a very legit Rolex at a street market in Thailand for $5. It lasted a whole week!
I bet people try to scam pawn shops all the time. They probably know all the tricks because otherwise they'd be out of business quickly.
My Dad (R.I.P) owned a restaurant in the 70s and some guy came up to him and sold him some gold necklaces and a watch and once he paid the guy he got arrested because it was a sting op
What, it's illegal to buy gold from someone? I hope your dad got a good lawyer to beat that crap.
A sting op usually happens at a location where this activity goes on regularly.
He was up to something, no sting op on a first buy...
Your dad was fencing stolen items my friend they busted him
You dad was a "fence" which buys stolen goods. Sorry man...if it was a sting op they had been watching your dad sometime, he was given up by a thief to lessen jail time.
Next he turns to Craigslist to sell
Buying watches is scary, and even if you get a real Rolex, everyone will think it's fake.
thats why they are dumb, the cheapest rolex money can buy is still marked up at 500% profit. just the weight in precious metals the most expensive rolex probably cost them like $4.5k to make and they will sell it for upwards of $85-110k
Oddly enough, some of the more affordable vintage Rolexes are almost always authentic. Simply because of the lower production numbers and the nature of the time they were made, faking watches in the 70s-90s was terrible quality and could be told as a fake from a mile away.
For example the Oysterquartz 17013 has pretty much never been replicated. Less than 20,000 were made and it has such a distinct case, also quartz is vilified in watch circles despite how cool the 5035 movement is.
Even the more popular 16013 vintage datejust can't be accurately replicated to this day.
Vintage airkings I believe as well but don't quote me on that.
Just another reason I like vintage rolex
Pawn shop owners aren’t impressed by someone driving a Porsche or a Jaguar. If you give off sketchy vibes trying to unload a Rolex, it won’t end well for you.
Not if you won the Lotto
Don't buy Rolex, problem solved
I think it was stolen and whoever had the watch told them it was real. So he prob thought it was real because he stole it from someone who said it was.
I love how these guys always seem to stumble, across immaculate watches, because some guy just happened to give it to them
I bought it at a garage sale.
If diamonds are factory set it adds value. If you add aftermarket shite diamonds it destroys the watch and the value.
Yes he was trying to scam you.
That's absolutely true 👍
I like the way you interact with these customers, potential scammers or not. You state the facts and you educate them and viewers. You further demonstrate your knowledge and acknowledge where you need your own research.
There was something sketchy about him.
I adore appearance and feel of the timepieces from swissarex
He took that Rolex down the road to the next swap shop
He'll find someone who's too stupid to reject it, and that's the way life works.
I wouldn't have the patience dealing with shady scammers every day
You're a lot nicer than I was in my shop dealing with scammers and thieves, which to me they are the same. I just kicked them out, and banned them from the premises.
That’s why your shop is was . Cause ur shop went out bye bye for bad customer service.
Taking the risk and accusing them of stealing isn't worth the risk. Just in case they are innocent.
I've been a Pawnbroker and have sold Rolex's also on the side. You were right to weight the watch, because it could have a good case but the movement may be a replacement. Many Rolex's get "Blinged" when they have their cases replaced with Diamond encrusted and some shady dealers will replace the movement with a decent movement, not the Japan kind, but other smooth movements that can be good to the eye, but just doesn't carry the value. These are often sold as "REAL" when in fact they are not. I would not have taken such an expensive item from someone who knows nothing about them because of the risk of it being stolen and the police when they get the Pawn ticket run the item and you are out anywhere from $500.00 to $15-$20 Grand. Anyone who OWNS a Rolex should know the Serial Number, Model Number and History of the watch. There are Stolen watch databases that charge you a dollar or two to look up the watch, worth it if you are possibly paying thousands for a watch. Being a Pawnbroker though, I would not necessarily trust them as the watch may not be reported stolen yet if it is fresh. You did the right thing in the end. Pawnbrokering is a risk vs reward business and some risks are just not worth it.
Rolex did not always design or make their own movements in house. For example, up until the 80s most Rolex movements were made under license to Valjoux. The Rolex movements were marked 'Rolex' but Valjoux also made movements that they stamped with their own name of the names of other watch companies. Scammers will get a hold of a bare Rolex case and then obtain a Valjoux marked movement. The Valjoux markings will be ground off and 'Rolex' will be stamped over. A watch like that has the correct Swiss made movement but it's not a really a Rolex, it's a Frankenwatch, which is worth almost nothing.
He just dumped it back in his backpack as if he knew it was worthless lol, Mind you he was just told it was fake but that's where he had it prior also. If it was real he would be protecting it better in some sort of case.
No doubt he was a scammer.
I have 50+ years experience and with guys like this I feel so embarrassed for.
*He's a traveling salesman selling 30.00 knock off Rolex watches.*
I like how he added one real piece in an attempt to gain your trust.
I was also just thinking the weight needs to feel heavy. Even a woman’s Rolex is very heavy and feels solid. When my brother was shopping for a Rolex watch he found that used Rolexes were more than a brand new one. I told him I could get him a brand new Rolex from my jeweler for less and no sales tax. No sales tax in Montana. I shipped it to him. It was supposed to be a signature delivery. Guess where the DC mailman left the Rolex package❓In the condo’s lobby and unsecured where there’s a communal pile of packages‼️It caused my sister in law a lot of stress. I told her next time buy me a ticket there to hand deliver it.
Now he will get the weight right
It is getting harder and harder to determine fakes, for a guy to walk off the street with that type of watch (if it was real) it was probably stolen or a very nice copy or knock off. I would be not be surprised if he comes back with a fake document trying to scam you. That is why I stay away from that type of Item to resell. Pete great vid as always!
yep most regular folks dont happen to have rolexs to sell to the pawn shop now if he rolled up in a mercedes
U can’t fake Rolex cards and papers ..only the look and feel not certification and serials when the watch is opened up
@@pitchbuckets2860 Simply not true- there are excellent fakes w/excellent fake docs, including the holograms and the UV versions as of late.
@@pitchbuckets2860 If you can fake a Rolex watch so good that even a dealer has to take it apart to tell sometimes, I wouldn't be so sure they can't fake the papers or certs.
@@freebird1ificationcan easily just rent a mercedes
Usually when I have come face to face with a fraudster they're quite sure of themselves and arrogant. He seemed unsure and quite shy, not a quick smooth talker... Just my first take on it. You deal with situations like this a lot though Pete! You went with your gut feeling and followed through. Great call.... I always enjoy the clips man!
Completely my take on the situation as well, Eve. Though I hold nothing against Pete for going with his instincts & knowledge about said watch brand either.
A and B type personalities
He seemed stoned
Pete you are great,love watching you, always on the money 💰
Nope, some are overly relaxed, almost limp, showing no emotion. Another sign that he is a scammer.
Question: if you have a potential seller come into the store that is trying to sell multiple items but you can tell most of them are fakes/scams yet one item is real - like that good cross - why would you buy anything from them? If it comes back stolen don’t you lose out completely?
I think you made the right choice, I am no expert on watches but I did see a video where they were talking about people adding diamonds etc and devaluing the watch, apparently if it is done by Rolex etc then it is fine and will be documented but getting others to do it will not help in the value.
Yes if the diamonds are factory then the value stays. Factory diamond bezel factory diamond dial etc will keep the value of the watch. But if you are like these rappers who go and buy a 70k dollar Patek Phillipe and then take it to a jeweler to have a million holes drilled into the watch to then add 30k worth of diamonds into it. Doesn't make that watch 100k now. If it is like some plain Jane rolex day-date it does devalue the watch but if you take some 1 in 50 Patek Phillipe that had a very limited release which costs upwards of 250k or more and you do the same thing to it as the rolex and drill holes in it to put diamonds on it the value of the watch fucking plummets into the dirt that watch is now worth just whatever the diamonds are worth 30k or less. No self respecting collector would ever buy a 1 in 50 limited release watch that's been encrusted with diamonds. Yes there is a market for iced out pieces but it is very small and far between where as the market for watchs that are still factory is much much bigger.
"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled". - Mark Twain -
*religion looks around nervously*
Every vaccinated person starting to sweat nervously
You nailed the Rolex guy when you pointed out the weight discrepancy. Great to see it. Also, I liked that you told him (even if it was real) that you wouldn't make an offer because he admitted the watch wasn't his. Was that some sort of sting operation??
its like 1+1=2... how are you even argue about that :D i
He mentioned nothing about it being fully linked or missing links, this very well could have been the difference in weight cause it really wasnt a huge difference...
@@rockwallcares5084 Wouldn't the bracelet alone add about 40-50 grams?
@@joelombardi4907 Doubt that much, a gold presidential bracelet is 67
very much could have been, Pete is too smart to fall for that bs
- The watch is fake
- Okay sir, just wait a moment, sir, just wait a moment.
Scammer for sure!! The other guy was legit and he got conned by one of those gas stations scams. These are very common these days! Always love the videos!!
Facts bro dude tried getting me a Arabic guy I said gtfo my face bro
Christmas Eve 2019 got gas and a car pulled up and a man and a child in the car. New York plates. He wanted to sell a nice gold ring, 14 kt and a bit heavy. I didn't buy it, gave him a 50 dollar bill instead and he was shocked and wanted me to take the ring. I just told him it's Christmas Eve and I genuinely wished him and the child Merry Christmas, got in my truck and gave a wave as I drove away.
Rolex watches sold on eBay the seller is from Africa and the Rolex watch comes from China and sold with the price tag of a Swiss Made Rolex.
The gold jewelry at the gas station is a favorite of gypsies. I had a friend get taken and seen good videos on the scam.
The knowledge you have to have bout different things is incredible.. The fact that you knew the weight of this watch by heart blew me away
I think he was Pete, anyone who buys something as expensive as a Rolex, they are gonna keep the paperwork and small box it came in, unless you or someone else threw it out or lost it. I wear a lot of gold, 2 necklaces, a bracelet, and a few rings and I've kept every receipt and box I got and just put them in my safe.
That guy knew the Rolex was fake. I live in NYC they sell fake Rolexs down on Canal St. In Dubai they have retail stores that sell fake Rolexs. I would be very wary about buying used Rolex, there are so many fakes out there.
Knowing women if the watch was real she would of been right next to him with him ready to get paid some money. I'm sure he at least figured it was fake but just wanted to see if someone would offer him something or was dumb enough to just think it was real. Also I doubt if someone thought it was real they would just carry it around loosely, they would be protecting the finish and overall watch better taking care of it because it would be worth some good money.
Would HAvE. Geez how hard is basic English?
I got scammed by a guy outside a pawn shop he sold me 2 gold chains and I went inside to sell them and they were fake luckily I thought this guy is doing this outside a pawn shop so he’s doing this as a hustle and I’m like he’s gonna be at another shop so the first shop I went to he was there got my money back but the look on his face was priceless😂💯
anybody selling a rolex would surely do research on it, and if anything a pawn shop would be the place you take it if it got rejected at a jewellers. just my opinion though.
Another thing scammers will do with gold is they will have some real gold pieces and then have some fake gold ones that are identical to the real ones.People will make an offer on the real stuff then they will take it back and say let me think about it.And then be like ok I will take it and then pull out the fake stuff in hopes that it won't be tested again.Real good scammers with fast sleight of hand can pull this off very very well so always be sure to double check.
I love it when you use science and facts to shut down ...
another great upload 😍
No pawn shop is going to buy a rolex without knowing a little about it.
My ex-father in law got me a Rolex Hulk as a wedding gift. Made it clear “always keep the papers, box and everything in between”. If I ever sell it I’ll have where, when, and serial#….always be authentic. Keep it in my gun safe. Most people I see trying to pawn (which is stupid to begin with, so many folks who want Rolex are on a wait list), never have papers. In my eyes red flags, 95% of the time it’s obviously stolen. That’s like saying you have a car, but no title.
I don't know Pete I think sometimes people really just don't know if they don't have a way to test their medals. I do like how you didn't give him too much crap it shows once again how honest of a person you are!
If someone’s got a Rolex they’ll know if it’s authentic or not, come on
What if I found a Rolex on the ground? How would I know?
he never said anything about the guy who came in with the fake gold
The gentleman in the tank top for sure did not know, he unfortunately fell for a common scam where someone offers to sell you jewlery at a "big loss" to them because they "need the cash right now" in this case because they supposedly were stranded and needed gas.
Sadly the guy fell for it because he thought he could both help them out and come out monetarily ahead, unfortunately the scammers just stole his money
Such an obvious scammer with so many signs: the immediate mention of OTHER expensive (and likewise replicated) brands, shifty body language, attire doesn't match value of goods he claims he has, not treating a $6k watch with utmost care. Thanks for showing this to us.
Tough one, ive been buying and selling for over 30 years and could not call this one way or the other, ive allway gone with " never trust anyone no matter how nice they come across" you checked and went with your gut feeling which 99.9% of time is right. Using the word scammer is cool for click bate i guess but what if this guy is genuine and is now classed as a scammer on-line - maybe " Was this Rolex real ? " would of been fairer to put in title. Love your videos and look forward to many more Regards Geoff viewer in the UK :)
" Was this Rolex real" - that's a great idea.
I agree with you. So many people commenting are sure of themselves that he was scamming. I would say there is a good chance he an idea it wasn't real, but I don't think anyone can say for sure based on what is presented. ALSO the other dumb comment I'm seeing is how he should have reacted to Pete telling him it was fake- Pete NEVER told him it was fake, probably to avoid conflict-so he probably would hold hope it might be real
Your channel beats those pawn shop reality shows any day of the week.
So interesting to see how negotiations happen in real time without distracting edits
My first sign would have been him saying that it was his girlfriend's watch. Right off the bat he is trying to divert blame if he does get caught.
Hey Peter, my husband and I love your show! We're from Toronto! We never miss an episode! We hope to cone visit your shop sometime in the future 😀
I'd say definitely trying to scam you because if he went through the trouble to get actual paperwork he could sell it for a whole lot more to a dealer or online🤷🏻♀️.
Anyways just my opinion. I love your videos & honey is absolutely puurfect 🥰
Sounds logical, but you could say that to about 90 percent of people who bring things into a pawn shop. Everyone could get more for their stuff selling it themselves.
When they are 100% sure then 100% vague ,thats a scammer
I had a great time with swissarex. The watch arrived promptly and matched the description accurately.
at 3:19 no one would ever treat a real Rolex like that! Just chucks in in his backpack 🤣🤭
Of course he was trying to scam you. You know that Peter, c'mon man. The other jewelry scam is really prevalent these days. " I just need gas money, but I'll give you something much more valuable." Like that happens everyday. Poor guy just had sucker written in his forehead that day. The lesson learned is priceless though.
I love how educational these videos are because how smart Pete is, absolutely amazing stuff !! Lol I feel almost more equipped to start my own business after watching these vids
He was trying to scam you Pete and he was pumping you for more information on how he could do the scam better elsewhere. Just felt off with him.
Lol ok detective
True
@@one.2622 it true
He’s definitely trying trying to pull a fast one. And he picked up some good knowledge and hints and tips for future attempts for sure.
Desperate times…… desperate measures. People are struggling out there I guess. That kids mannerisms just made me feel uncomfortable and would put me on full alert as to what he was selling. Body language is very easy to read sometimes. Ruby rocks! Honey is a star! Great Chanel Pete.
Weirdo
Biden’s America 😔
I think it's good to be darkly suspicious of anything someone just walking in off the sidewalk offers you. I wouldn't even trust the "k" on gold, or the designation of something as sterling silver.
Pete, after watching this twice, I have to say that absolutely 100% this guy was trying to sell you a fake watch. He absolutely knows it's fake and probably thought what's the harm in trying to sell it to you. Everything he says during this encounter is completely irregular compared to any normal buy/sell conversation. Good call man, this dude is lame
100% huh? He 'absolutely' knows its fake huh?
How do you know?
You couldn't possibly know with that much certainty.
Sorry
@@Yinzzy656 "I Let You Win" is right. He's a scammer. He is not using any one sign, but intuition . I agree with him. Everything about this guy seemed off.
How much for the gold cross you bought at the end of the video. I had the same one. It was the last thing my grandmother bought me. I'm very interested in buying it. Thank you
I would never accuse someone of being a scammer. You told him that, you think, it was a fake, that being said, you should've told him to go and visit your jeweler, he would know if it was really a fake or not. One thing for sure, Honey at the end, just chilling out , is not fake.
I’d love to see more of these videos. Body language is everything but you pointed out things I was clueless about
My experience with swissarex was fantastic. The watch arrived quickly and was exactly as described.
I think he was trying to scam you. The one thing that I've noticed with people who come in trying to scam is that they always try to create separation between them and the item that they are selling. Or they try to set up plausible deniability before you start the authentication process. For example this guy tries to distance himself from the watch by saying it's his girlfriends. The lady who came in with the box full of newspaper was saying how she thought the box was sealed and she never opened it. Always creating distance and always creating plausible deniability.
No doubt about it, he was a scammer, just look at his smug face and body language. I am sorry but I hate people like this... You should have told him to do a hard day's work for once and kicked him as hard as you could up the ass and out the door... Is there a law where you are trying to deceive a person claiming the authenticity of a product, knowing full well it is a forgery, if you do this the other way around and you're a legit business, you could be facing a fine or criminal prosecution?
A view from the UK. Nobody, but nobody who has an original Rolex, Omega, Patek Philippe etc., will ever take it to a trader like this one - with all due respect to him. Any owner will know, as they are told by the official seller that there are so many fakes out there to keep the paperwork - even the box and purchase receipt. Those wanting to sell will go to reputable dealers for the best deal and they scrutinise everything. Full marks for this trader stating he would take it to a main dealer for verification before buying. Normally at that point the seller says no, ok, i'll leave it and sell later, then you know it's a fake.
Those same fakes are sold online for the price of the real thing, yet the individual for an example lives in Lagos, Nigeria the Rolex comes from China and sold on eBay for 10 thousand dollars marked as original brand new Rolex watch and yet it’s a fake.
To say their is a 100% chance that the watch that you pay 10, 20, or even 30 thousand dollars is fake but buying it Works like an art of charity because it is necessary for people who are total broke to make ends meet.
Yet even fake Gucci bags are sold online at the same price as the original.
You are correct Pete, it was more than likely a fake and the fact that he didn't try to bargain with you on the price of the cross. BTW, you are generous on your gold offer.
He wasn't trying to scam you with a fake Rolex. He was trying to sell you a fake Rolex
I've been a customer of swissarex for a while now and have never been disappointed. The quality of their watches is amazing.
Pete you could scan in the ID with a card scanner like in the Dr's office - computer receipt, etc. in 45 seconds.
Hands down trying to pull a quick one on you. From laying responsibility to his “gf”, chain w markings hoping you only tested the clasps…. Atleast he wasn’t strung out … then you would’ve had the trifecta. 😂☘️
The guy didnt seem strung out, per se, but he did seem checked out or a little off…
Careful explaining things to the scammers. you are educating them to be better at their grifts
When my parents were in the estate jewelry business, they came across a lot of people that very innocently thought they had solid gold or real diamonds, etc, and they tested fake with the kits my dad used to test and inspect them with. One of the big ones was solid?? small , gold bricks that were lead inside.
He knew from the beginning was fake, but he handled it with very professional.
swissarex sells copycat watches that look exactly like the originals. You won't be sorry you made the purchase.
Lolol says poor people who want to look rich😂 broke boy , damn imagine typing that? I’d rather no watch than wear a fake😂 ur a bozo
Fake it till you make it, aye? 😂
1st guy was clearly probing and trying to learn how to improve next time he tries his scam.
The quality of the imitation watches from swissarex astounds me.
My friend, not everyone keeps a box or paper work.
Yes he is a scammer
Since you own a pawn shop, you should have a way to tell if a watch is real or not.