Origins of Xingyi Quan FULL DOCUMENTARY part 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ธ.ค. 2020
- In part 2, Jon, Paul and I travel to Shanxi province to visit the Song, Che and Dai Family masters to learn how Xingyi developed from Xinyi. There is quite a bit of previously unseen footage in this documentary, including a comparison of Xingyi and Xinyi 5 Elements Fists and an explanation of the influence of Shandong Mantis on Dai Style.
Xingyi Heritage is a two part documentary that explores the development of one of the most popular styles of martial arts in China: Xing Yi Quan. In a journey that goes from the ancient capital of Luoyang, to the modern metropolitan of Tianjin, and finally deep into the countryside of Shanxi province, this documentary is the first to introduce all the major branches of the style: Hebei style, Song Family, Che Family, Dai Family and Muslim Xinyi Liuhe.
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Which master was your favourite and what did you learn? Let me know below!
I like them all, But I kind like the the master from the song style the house with the pictures, 3rd generation sweet.I learn from the young guys in the warehouse and the squatting monkey, are they doing reverse breathing with this ? check my other post thx .
宋光華師匠に1989年、1991年に習いました。またぜひ会いたいです。
The application of each technique as both yin and yang made me smack my forehead and go, "D'oh!" The back (spine) as yang and the front of the body as yin was a revelation to me. I immediately picked up my jo staff and explored how this could be applied to my stick fighting. Many thanks!
Master number three please - in his eighties? I'll have some of that!
Everything was great though, I'm in UK and studied with Wutan and we did some Xingyi and I loved it, so linear compared to Bagua or Wing Chun
The demonstration about Yang and Yin movements is such a gem, infinite thanks for your research and sharing!!!
This is a beautiful documentary. And it confirms what my friend taught me more than twenty years ago here in southern California. My teacher's grandmother lived in Belize. She was related to the Hui people in China, and taught her grandson what she knew while he stayed with her in Belize when he was a child. Later he learned a style that he called 'xinyi' from his uncle, but he also had studied hung gar and baguazhang. He passed on the 'wuxing' forms to me because they are easy to remember. More recently I picked up some 'tongbei' techniques and learned a little about Chen taijiquan. I have had to modify what I learned because I am almost seven feet tall, but I have little sparring experience. I have practiced off and on over the years mainly to stay healthy, and because it is a beautiful tradition.
The master in his 80s doesn't look like he is in his 80s. He looks much younger and still can fight pretty good.
I am proud of your Xingyiquan series of videos. I've been teaching myself Chinese boxing since circa 2001 and have never received formal instruction. I am truly grateful for these videos.
I didn't find a good Tai Chi teacher until I was 50. I practiced Japanese styles before that, because that was the best instruction available. Style isn't as important as having good instruction. Take what you can get, and as long as you learn and practice, it will be good. Even Kendo or Karate will help keep you in shape for if you meet a Xing Yi teacher. And even if you never learn the style of your dreams, at least you'll have something.
@@ambulocetusnatans It's incredible this journey has taken me. My original kung fu teacher sent me on this journey and i"m still looking for personal taiji instruction at the age of 39
@@SkunkHunt Yea, it's hard to find good Chinese styles. Most classes are either full of kids or old ladies. But lots of teachers have started with the Zoom classes because of covid, including the guys in this video, Will and Paul.
The struggle is real!
It's all about mastering the basics .
This is good enough to be on TV.
Wow thanks!
Very profound research on the martialart from your channel
Thanks so much!
@@MonkeyStealsPeach I recommend you have an online talk with the gentleman above about the subject ;)
One of the best documentaries I’ve seen on this style. Thank you for the great information, aligns perfectly with what we were taught. It is wonderful to have access to such a informative, rich original sources. Thank you.
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I love these videos but I have to say that the endings are so good. You build it up to another adventure down the road where you team up with even more cool people.
Thanks! And who knows where it will go once COVID is over
This is GOLD, pure gold. Thanks for sharing.
so lucky that u guys can meet those masters
Absolutely brilliant this Will, keep ‘em coming! ✊🏾
Ha ha ha! "...in northern Chinese tradition, we were driven to a restaurant, given a large amount of alcohol, and then beaten up a second time".
Yep!
Glad that's not just my family
@@MonkeyStealsPeach The alcohol takes the pain away :-)
Well done documentary. Nice surprise as a Tai Chi Mantis practitioner to hear about the connection with this style of Hsing Yi.
Thank you!
nguồn gốc của xingyi quan.chia sẻ rất hay,tôi thích video của bạn
Very good documentary. Simple and to the point.
Another excellent video! Thank you.
Thanks Les!
Fantastic!!!!
Thanks for the videos. What an amazing adventure you must have had. I don't know much about xingyi quan but found it very interesting. At 25:07 it seems that they were trying to explain that the core of the opening movement is actually the entire body firstly expressing a yang form, then opening to express/expose yin. I don't know if you guys picked up on it but found it quite profound.
Always very very interesting.
Studying Xinyiba from Chen Geng in Moscow and was interested to see this documentary. Lot of things look similiar to what we are practicing in Xinyiba. Thank you for your work.
You are spot on. Shaolin (and its branch temples) acted like a central server of martial arts in ancient China. Ex- military, outlaws and oppressed peasants often took refuge in Buddhism and brought their martial art styles into the temples; and temple workers or secularized monks again spread these styles back to society.
Story of Wu NanFang's (Chen Geng's Shifu) family is exactly this kind of scenario.
So the Chinese sayings go simultaneously: "Every Kong Fu in the world comes from Shaolin" and "Shaolin Kong Fu steals from everyone in the world"
Finally a master showing practical take down defense. Wow I'm amazed 👏
Awesome video
Your channel deserves more followers! ;)
Thanks! I feel pretty satisfied with it now though to be honest.
That master is in his 80’s! He’s jacked for his age. I’d love to know what supplemental training he does.
Excellent, preview of sources, may be a separate, technically oriented and level/knoledge level structured presentation could follow. Best regards. GOdd bless you all. Paul,67, retired instructor of Karate.
Shanxi Hsing-I is one of the oldest of Chinese kung fu styles, tracing its roots back to approximately 1130 A.D to the Sung Dynasty’s famous military General - Marshall Yueh Fuei. Although he is accredited as the founder, he always gave credit to a wandering Taoist Monk who he learnt from. The founder of the Sung Style of Shanxi Hsing-I is attributed to Grandmaster Sung Shi Rong.
If you watch part 1, I explain that there is no real connection between Xingyi and Yue Fei beyond him being an inspirational figure. Mushin Martial Culture channel’s latest episode on Shaolin history also goes into detail on Yue Fei and how he had nothing to do with empty hand martial arts
I loved the kid who is anime-running casually why you practice 27:30
There is another line of xingyi(形意) from Zhong Nan mountain (终南山) but very rare. Also there are particers of xingyi claim the origin of xinyi quan is from hermits of Zhong Nan mountain. May be you might like to give a check. Very nice video you made, keep on it.
Yes, I heard it mentioned by people before. Would be very interesting to check out
Have you inèdit videos of song Xing yi and song family?
Let us preserve tradtional martial arts
Is it possible to go and train with them?
I was in Shanxi two years ago to study and learn Dai Style from Master Chen Jinfu. It was an amazing journey. I hope I will repete it, when it will be possible
That’s really cool, because I remember on another video you asked who he was and I answered you and provided you his name. Afterwards you really went to see him! 😂 Great!
@@Livingtree32 When? I don't remember. Could you provide the link to me? Because I study with master Chen Jinfu from 2013 , I've invited him in my house many time, in Turin and in Sicily. Thanks.
@@raffaelemantovani3535 I honestly can’t find the video anymore. I just somehow remembered your name, but it could be that my memory is playing tricks on me.
looks really difficult to 'master' or to 'get' even the basic power explosion look incredibly difficult
目前會楷定傳統武術外練一個鬆字，之後完整內容會主要以秘傳的方式繼續以減少不必要的干擾。
There are errors in the English subtitles related to the names of members of the Song family: 1) Song Shi Rong WAS a great-uncle and Song Shi De WAS the grandfather of Song Guan Hua dashi. Also, Song Shi Rong's son was named "Song Hu Chen" and NOT "Song Fu Cheng." Please correct these names to honor these great people.
Hung gar I need that history
28:10 NARUTO RUN!!!!!!
Must be the most powerful XinYi technique
👏👏👏👍😃🙏🙏🙏
In tradidional style they gave us dinner, got us drunk and then beat us up a second time 😆😆😆
17:58 👁️
Is there any sparing in does styles
Xinyi quan's is the original
The secret of all martial arts is to breathe out after you have taken an in-breath! Then move your left part in, your left part out, do the do and then shake it all about! Easy really!
I was just joking here but as someone who has studied Martial arts for more than 50 yrs, now a 67yr old Shotokan student, done 15yrs Wing Chun, reached a third dan in WTF TKD the most profound lesson taught to me by a TKD 8th dan was that all martial arts are 80% the same, the 20% difference is the techniques particular to the art, the 80% sameness is all about relaxation and breathing!
Besides the evolution of this line of martial arts, what's also interesting is the evolution of the definition of escort agency
Comment of the year award goes to you
Funnily enough my nickname is day long bang
中国的武术中国人好多都不学，反而被外国人这么不耻下问的学走了
Many Chinese people do not learn martial arts in China, but they are learned by foreigners so shamelessly.
24:53 how the fuck is that a fighting stance???
Ok see the literal o.g old guy with the freshest fit I've ever seen doesn't doesn't that do dumb position. He merely extends his bicep
Dude that guy has much practicality to his kung fu
Do you watch a boxer jumping rope and say "how do you beat someone up with that". That's about how much sense your griping above made. Good luck on your journey.
Too much detailing is completely useless for self-defense. Does someone really think that doing the same move this way or that way, really matters? There is too much vanity in upholding traditions to such detail, as if the details were divinely inspired. VANITY.
It's all still interesting, but at the end of the day, a martial art has to have created real capable fighters against untrained and trained attackers.