What is Xingyi Kung Fu? COMPILATION
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ค. 2024
- What is XingYi Kung Fu? Today, with the help of Shifu Jonathan Bluestein, we are going to look at an introduction of a system of Kung Fu, XingYiQuan. This is a compliation of a two part episode: Part one looks at the history, origin, and concepts of Xingyiquan and Part Two looks at the fighting style and curriculum. At the end of this compilation is a retrospective commentary on the making of this episode.
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Always love these “History of “ videos because it brings light to even obscure or styles that have been ignored for so long. Need some more love to TCMAs
Absolutely concur.
Very thorough explanation of Xingyi Kung Fu -- I find a lot of similarities in many kung fu styles, though each approaches the martial arts from its own unique theory.
Bajiquan is another northern kung fu style that share some of the concepts of Xing Yi Quan,like the movements being based on the spear,heavy usage of shoulder strikes and practical effectiveness.
This is a great overview of hsing i! I’ve been studying this art for years now. The explosive whole body power you develop through training in this art is imo the goal. The launching off the back leg white simultaneously blocking and striking at the same time is very effective.
Xingyi Quan reminds me of fencing with a flamberge rapier. The way blade-to-blade contact makes vibrations can be disconcerting if you're not used to it. I never thought to apply the principle to unarmed combat. I think i have some learning/practice to do now
Brilliant video, I have just started my journey into Xing Yi.
Thanks for sharing your content.
Great seeing this again. I think Xing Yi is my favorite form of martial art, it seems like the most complete in the hands of an expert.
Wonderful! I applaud your renewed perspective and insights :-)
Thank you for your help with it my friend :)
I really enjoyed this look at Xing Yi. If you would like an idea for another art to look at think about about Xing Yi's sister art of Ba Gua Zhang. I find it very interesting how these two arts that are based on the same principles express themselves so differently.
Dangerous stuff...
And Baji Quan!
This video was very interesting. You could add, one day, a video on "a descendant art" : Yi Quan.
I’m currently learning this art through a really good teacher in Sydney, Australia along with Choy Lee Fut through another school in Sydney and I absolutely love learning both of them. Thank you for sharing this! 😁
Where are you learning xingyi in Sydney ?
@@Freddy19677 In West Ryde. The school is called Jing Ling Tai Chi Academy. They teach Yang style Taijiquan on Thursday evenings and Xing Yi Quan on Sunday afternoons. If you’re in the area, I definitely recommend to give this school a try. I’ve been going there a lot for Xing Yi Quan, it’s hard training but it’s really good. 😁
Sorry for my late response, I meant to respond to you sooner.
I love these history videos bro. I’m takin Chinese martial arts and my Xingyi training is coming up. So I’m psyched to go back through the videos you had on it. I greatly appreciate it.
I'd love to see a history of Ba Gua Zhang
Taiji (and karate) practitioner., here. We hug the tree/shape a double peng in zhan zhuang when we are sick so the qi stays with us. Otherwise, in my lineage, both hands are out similar to push. In both cases, we are standing.
this system is taught within the umbrella of the school I study at. The moves are a little different, but the philosophy, intent and so on are the same. Learning this was one of the hardest things I ever did - and I will say that I'm no more than a raw beginner at it, despite having had 4+ years of experience with it. I move and strike so differently than what I was taught earlier... I've had to relearn movement, breath, timing, everything.
Omg!
Kung Fu is so awesome!
This style included!😊
I like all the grappling in these styles!
Can you do a video on the history of muay thai?
Hopefully in the near future!
Awesome! Kempo inspired me to learn from everything and learn my own way-Jo Do Te...just kidding. I have seen some Hsing I going to a shaolin school. I love to look at how we might find the 5 energies in all our moves. Most recently learning some boxing. That's a great place to add Hsing I understanding!
Hmm... seems to have similar principles to mine. I more or less took out the complex of taijutsu and simplified it to the movements. Bear, powerful basic punches, while using jujitsu, mantis, which isn't related to the 2 kung fu styles, but the opening stance looks more like mauy boran, but is more based on kama principles, snake, which best I can describe is based on kusarigama, hawk, which is basically armored. The idea is that you're basically throwing your body in taijutsu the way a bird would jump to fly... there's more, but that's the basic idea. And they're actually American animals. For example, pitbull, which is more of dirty fighting. The idea is pitbulls almost never wanna fight, and in most conflicts would rather push away danger, but if they do, it's not pretty. Dirty Sumo is probably the closest idea of it... if that makes sense.
I'll definitely look more into this more. May have some good training principles I haven't thought of it.
Very cool and informative video Dan Sensei! Love these 👍🙏🥋
Nicely done Video sir
Awesome! I would love to see similar content on less known styles, like Pak Mei Kuen.
There is a school of White Brow in Calgary Alberta in the Chinatown district.
Thank you. Yes but I don't need to find one. I'm already a student of a white brow school which is why it was an easy example however my interest in videos digging into less known arts isn't an indication I'm looking for schools of each but rather interest in the history culture and practice of diverse arts.
I'm already a student of lam hung pak mei under Sifu Simon lui. If I were to look for an additional art it would be pak hok but I'm not ready to divide my attention.
These ideas as starting to look like a training against reflexes, thus a reach over the natural moments of a opponent with a same strong counter move that is completely unexpected as a natural movement, or the discouragement logic for solving if peaceful solutions being able to be reached and the logic of the long lasting style of the art.
Great great informative video on this beautiful art! I would definitely like to see ba ji chuan in one of your upcoming videos in your kung fu series! Thank you in advance and keep up the wonderful work!
Could you do more of these? They always feel so well done and give shine to arts that tend to get lost
We're working on more currently! :)
@@ArtofOneDojo Also TH-cam sucks sometimes. I didn't know you were making videos for awhile because they were lacking on the notifications
@@bw5020I agree, the notifications system doesn't always work right. To be fair our recent release schedule has been erratic as we've been doing a lot of restructuring.
I really need to learn that gator style, super cool.
Excellent video Mr. Dan. I’m researching a future Xin Yi Liu He Quan video as well.
Thank you, really nice, Sir! Very much enjoy the History videos!
Wow great videos on Xing Yi Quan... I have an interest in taking it. Have you done any videos on Bagua?
No but we are in the early process of outlining it. Hopefully we'll have one in the near future.
Here's a controversial question I will ask: Where does one find authentic internal arts like xingyi, and bagua, that have been preserved as it was intended hundreds of years ago?
The first answer that would come to mind is China. But China went through a big cultural revolution under Mao where traditional martial arts was pretty much outlawed and the much less intimidating sport of wushu was instituted with stylized forms and competition. Much of what we see represented as "kung fu" (or chuan fa) are modernized wushu interpretations of traditional styles.
What about British Colony era Hong Kong where many martial artists fled to escape the politics of China during the early 20th century? Or America and Australia in Chinese communities in the martial arts which were formed through diaspora?
Then again what is considered "authentic" or "original" as all martial arts evolve over time. Perhaps nothing has been preserved as originally intended? Example: I was watching the famous Chinese martial art style of hung gar (or hung kuen) which was the style practiced by the legendary real life Chinese folk hero, Wong Fei Hong, portrayed by both Jackie Chan and Jet Li in many movies. I couldn't help but notice that everyone had a different interpretation of its core form called "mui fa kuen" to where it was almost drastically different from one practitioner to another.
mention of Bear but no specifics :o(
The Zhan Zhuang is the best thing you could do for yourself, take it from another Kenpo guy. I had trained for 17 years in Kenpo before trying Taijiquan and Neigong. What I found was that my Kenpo training had brought my body further out of correct alignment and I had a lot of things to fix before I could smoothly transfer full body force. I highly recommend picking up an advanced Zhan Zhuang practice from a Taijiquan, Baguazhang, Xingyiquan/Yi Quan lineage and smoothing repairing yourself which makes everything else work better.
The katas logic must be the control of recognizing self body weight holding you back from making the movement completely natural.
Thank you for this video compilation.
My memory isn't stellar & when you said words to the effect that Xingyiquan was about effecting one's intent from any shape I thought, Well that's an interesting thought, because Xingyiquan always seemed to me to be more the art of chosing the right shape/form/position - along with the appropriate direction of energy - to fulfill one's intent (but after awhile it does seem lIke one can direct one's energy in a desired direction from just about any position).
I say it this way, because if it was about generating power from ANY shape/position/posture, then there would be no significant reason for the specific standing practice where strict adherence to particular static postures are emphasized & practiced (usually 2 main postures: one merely standing upright in a specific way; & the other in what Karateka might call a "stance" - which is the 3 Points Posture where one's nose, lead hand, & lead foot all point along the same line). There are a lot of rules to assume either of these postures correctly. Correct shape is taught so that one's body can learn to be in line with one's intentions.
Have you ever intended to do something & then physically messed up (tripped up, knocked something over by mistake, missed the mark, etc.)? 🤔 Well, Xingyiquan practice aims to eliminate any disconnect between what you want to accomplish & your actually accomplishing what you wanted to accomplish; so, one first learns efficient, fairly-relaxed & focused stability, then ways of directing one's energy efficiently while still remaining balanced. Practitioners learn to generate a lot of energy/force (in a way that's firm yet not slow & stiff).
Now, one doesn't need to learn every form/kata in a Xingyiquan school's system to become efficient at self-defense. One famous Xingyiquan practitioner only practiced Beng Quan (which I've seen translated as Crushing or Snapping Fist: it's the Wood-Element Fist that goes out like an arrow with a slight arcing motion to it - & returns with a slight arcing motion using one's wrist & fist to hook: the fist is usually a one-knuckle punch using one's foreknuckle & is quite commonly called a Phoenix-Eye Fist: this is the primary "fist" used in Crushing/Snapping Form; but, usually each of the element "fist" forms includes a fairly-obvious initial Drilling Fist & Splitting Fist motion plus a more subtle Crossing Fist Motion; so, these short forms are great as they each allow for much practice of a few efficient moves).
Each of the 5 basic "fists" has its own short form; & any one of those forms alone can be used to become quite decent at self-defense - if one chooses to work at it diligently & with intelligence.
The - usually - 12 Animal Forms were add-ons not originally a part of the art at its initial development. There was much interaction between Xingyiquan & Baguazhang practitioners to the point that Xingyiquan systems started to incorporate some aspects of Baguazhang. Xingyiquan ciriculum (sp?) expanded over time with the addition of 12 Animal Forms, 5-Element Linking Form, 8-Shape/Method Form, etc. Any one of these forms is sufficient for learning self-defense & will serve one well once one's skill level with such becomes high enough.
Some school's animal forms are mostly short, simple, & to the point; but, some school's forms are rather elaborate by comparison to the aforementioned schools. Some schools might teach multiple, simple forms for one animal's attributes, while another school might clump these multiple basic motions together into one fairly elaborate form (somewhat similar to how many Kenpo/Kempo forms are like: fairly short, but with a lot of various movements to them).
Some schools teach the simple Bear & Eagle Forms separately while other schools will combine these two & call it Bear-Eagle Form (& when this is done they might add another animal, like a Cockerel, so as to still have 12 forms in their animal forms collection).
could you please make a video on silat?
Oh wow, they called me "The wall" too...'cept it was lil kids soccer, nothing got passed me on defense...
Tell ya though, I'm the same way, awful at point sparring...I'm a slugger...
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I believe the name meaning isnt shape intention fist, because you need to learn about forms in the art and do it interchangeably. you are not using any shape, you use some specific shapes, or in other word, forms
I believe the meaning of the name is form intention fist. so, I think this is an art where you change your yi fluidly in a fight to use entirely different form in each strikes
Taichi is also needing you to transform yi in each strikes, but the form is still the same
Ι want see American Kenpo sparring in your channel I don't know why but ed parker kenpo and kajukenbo is for so special
In past was not so priority but know i want as maniac learn
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I’ve been doing ZZ for almost 5 years. Not only has it improved and heal my Plantars Fasia but improved my kickboxing, tkd, and bjj. Wierd
Appreciate your efforts and the professionally done video, but shifu Jonathan Bluestein ? The one who took onto himself the pains of re-writing the Wiki article on Xingyiquan and humbly put himself into the same generation with famous international masters like Di Guoyong and George Xu ? Some Nir Malhi or Benny Davidesko -- the same generation with Liu Hungchieh and Luo Dexiu ? I mean, honestly, don't you see how ridiculous that is ?
Is there a part of this video that you disagree with? What information did we get wrong?
@@ArtofOneDojo I expressed myself quite clearly.
@@TaijiquanGaoshouActually you did not, you completely dodged the question. All you asked was why he was a source and you listed other sources, you didn't actually debate anything in the video. So I ask again, what specifically did we get wrong in this video?
Got to go.
Hey! Old Salty is back! What's "Got to go"?
Xing yi was not made by Muslims. There are Muslim branches of it though
there is lots of wrong/misinformation in this video