Fiber Optic HDMI VS Copper HDMI (DEMO/REVIEW)

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  • @steadychaosproductions3376
    @steadychaosproductions3376  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interested in comparison videos? Check out my HDR vs SDR comparison video: th-cam.com/video/VYAo_x_VFEk/w-d-xo.html

  • @tech-knowledge589
    @tech-knowledge589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought this video was very informative and the host honest in the information he was presenting. I used the information given in this video to make my final decision concerning which HDMI cable to purchase for my new 65" LG television. Thank you for your honesty and the visual comparison you demonstrated to illustrate your findings and opinion. Thank you again and God Bless. Paul M.

  • @3483maverick
    @3483maverick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    They make a difference over long runs of 16 ft plus.

    • @jordangenson3037
      @jordangenson3037 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. Handshake issues.

  • @duaplex1
    @duaplex1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interestingly, I did an A/B test on my non HDR projector in my cinema room. There is a difference in contrast and the motion blur improved, but its was ever so subtle. I would say the upgrade is worth it, but don't go crazy and overpay for cables. I would say your cable is pretty spot on and the video is great! You helped me chose my fibre optic cable :)

  • @edwardkenway3367
    @edwardkenway3367 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a very well done comparison, the factor that convinced me to use fiber is immunity to electromagnetic interference. Thanks

  • @safetyhomeloans950
    @safetyhomeloans950 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video...loved the video comparison!!!

  • @Aer_Marique
    @Aer_Marique 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ME: watches this demo in 240p on a VGA display...

  • @gingerninja7187
    @gingerninja7187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good honest demo no bull 💩 here , as you say its a digital signal, 👍

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i was trying to be honest, but somehow people dislike the video and think i have some sort of agenda. lol

  • @stevelawson5499
    @stevelawson5499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As long as you adjust you tv to go high res the picture is fantastic

  • @narutofanz4
    @narutofanz4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video thank you very much

  • @asadali4691
    @asadali4691 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely awesome 👍

  • @adamfrandsen
    @adamfrandsen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Digital signals are as much subject to outside influence as is analogue signals. EMI and other outside factors can cause bit flipping, attenuation, cross talk, jitter, noise, impulse noise, echo or signal reflections, phase shift etc.. In digital there is error correction crc/tmds etc., these can detect corrupted data/bit flips etc. and ask for the signal to be resent, while data buffers can minimize jitter. But jitter is the main concern in digital data transfer. Optical cables are not subject to emi interference, and have no jitter but can have modal dispersion in multimode fibers, not single mode fibers used in hdmi and usb. A good quality cable matters, and optical is likely best even with the laser diode conversion of the signal, which is 1 to 1, there is no loss or errors.

  • @garyc9030
    @garyc9030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’d like to see the same test over a long cable run like 30 feet or more. Rumor is that’s where cooper develops degradation and fiber is claimed to be unaffected.

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, there certainly can be signal attenuation over long copper runs given the method of data transfer.
      There is, however, no signal attenuation with light.

    • @stevelawson5499
      @stevelawson5499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct sir

  • @DubbyNuggz12
    @DubbyNuggz12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Years ago, I converted a coat closet to media closet and ran a CL3 rated (in wall rated) 50 foot copper HDMI in the wall, up in the attic, and down the wall from TV to closet, 1080p worked just fine, but once I switch to 4k on my oled tv and at the time new xbox one x, picture cut out immediately, that is the advantage to fiber optic!!

  • @kishan73
    @kishan73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This may have already been said but my understanding regarding Fiber Optic HDMI is that it differentiates itself from traditional copper HDMI after 10 -12 feet? Anything less than that will look/sound identical?

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, that's basically what I say in the video.

    • @3483maverick
      @3483maverick 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are correct. My projector fiber hdmi runs 30ft. Makes all the difference in the world.

    • @MrBigR928
      @MrBigR928 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just bought two 6ft Ruipro 2.0 Ultra Slim HDMI Active Optical Fiber Cables and a 8k Ethernet cable & a Monster Box X1 Max Android 9.0 3D 6K to eventually cut the cord! But before I hooked up the Monster Box I swapped out the HDMI cable from the Xfinity DVR to my mid tier 50" Vizio and maaaan that 6ft HDMI Fiber made a huge difference! I'm finally getting the full 1080 & the sound is louder & crisper. When I hooked the Monster Box up with the 8k Ethernet cable & the second HDMI Fiber Cable, I swear 2hrs had passed by before I came up for air man I swear! I'm just a truck driver and a part time brain surgeon & I watched a few TH-cam videos to make the choice to invest in these pricey cables & it was well worth the extra money for the results that I got & I won't have to buy new cables when I upgrade my tv when Black Friday comes around 😁. I just wanted to chime in to say these 6ft'ers made a huge difference in my set up. Y'all stay safe✌🏿

  • @JR-rp7vr
    @JR-rp7vr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Speed is what I'm interested in with shorter cables.
    I'm sure there isn't a noticeable difference but the fact remains that light/fiber is superior to copper.
    I'd like to see a ping test through copper vs fiber hdmi.
    I'm trying to figure out what device can do such a test.

  • @ernieschatz3783
    @ernieschatz3783 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You WILL experience attenuation and image degradation over longer runs of copper HDMI cable. That's really how the comparison should be done. It's pretty much a foregone conclusion that picture quality will not be noticeably different between copper HDMI and fiber at reasonable lengths within the copper HDMI cable specifications.

  • @allenpost3616
    @allenpost3616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What will be interesting to see if there is any noticeable difference between cables when we have hdmi 2.1 devices supposedly outputting more data. Guess we'll find out in a few months.

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed, the moment I get a 2.1 source, I will do some testing and comparing and post the results to YT.

    • @heman691
      @heman691 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Optical hdmi 2.1 wins buy a mile now It’s the way to go in 2022

  • @KashifAli-jr7ti
    @KashifAli-jr7ti ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @Andrea-sr3zb
    @Andrea-sr3zb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grazie...🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @Eagle-Striker
    @Eagle-Striker ปีที่แล้ว

    My new LG77G1 is 10 meters away from the AVR so I dropped some cash on the cable. Ended up buying fiber optic by Inakustik to make sure I dont sacrifice any picture quality. No sense on spending a lot on picture quality and cheaping out on the cable if going long distance.

  • @gigabit9823
    @gigabit9823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is NO Difference until you run longer runs. 15ft or more, go HDMI Fiber.

  • @peaceseeker619
    @peaceseeker619 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does audio signal travels both ways through fibre hdmi??I want to connect my tv box to the hdmi in of the dolby atmos soundbar and the hdmi out(earc) to the arc port of the projector...but i want to know that if i connect ps5 or pc to projector , will i get the dolby atmos sound from my soundbar if i connect my soundbar and projector with fibre hdmi???does the source and target thing works with only video signals or with audio signals too??

  • @teguhkembaren
    @teguhkembaren 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why my 50M hdmi fiber not working again after 3weeks using it ??

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Make sure your cable is firmly connected at both ends. If so, and you get a signal with a different HDMI cable, it's possible your fiber cable crapped the bed on you.

  • @FM-fm2yq
    @FM-fm2yq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a fiber optic hdmi 2.1 for 20$ plus a coupon, the cable is 6.5ft long! I gatta because I also wanna feel the pleasure of having an optic fiber hdmi cable

  • @GamingTech-YouTube
    @GamingTech-YouTube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There can't be any different if we are talking digital. Good Video!

  • @jerzyszczepanski9792
    @jerzyszczepanski9792 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. Will 7 meters optical HDMI cable work with sound between my TV and PC using Mini DisplayPort to HDMI adapter? My Graphic Card outputs sound BTW. Thank you.

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      something like this may work: www.amazon.com/Club-3D-DisplayPort1-4-Adapter-CAC-1085/dp/B08BX49V5V
      But then again, you mentioned mini displayport, so I'm not entirely certain.

  • @brownsrvlifecampground9322
    @brownsrvlifecampground9322 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just purchased a 8k Fiber Optic HDMI Cable for my new movie theater I am bailing up in my house

  • @blake_1146
    @blake_1146 ปีที่แล้ว

    Distance between my Xbox and tv roughly 2metres should I use fibre optic hdmi, is it better image quality?

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  ปีที่แล้ว

      at only 6 feet,, regular hdmi would be fine. And no, in my experience, there is no image difference.

  • @alexsaraceno6144
    @alexsaraceno6144 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the video. I didn't know much about the fiber optic cables. But I have told many people do NOT pay more than 50 bucks for those Audio Quest Carbon, Cinnamon, Sky, Chocolate, Vodka cables. It's all marketing B.S. I just hit Subscribe.

  • @laahah1
    @laahah1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    would using the fiber cable cut back latency ?compared to the other one

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      over long runs, yes, its likely.

    • @laahah1
      @laahah1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the reply back, Nice channel deff subbing but i just made the decision to buy this down below
      J-Tech Digital HDMI 2.0 Cable 3ft Supporting 4K@60Hz 4:4:4 Ultra High Speed 18Gbps, HDR10, ARC - 100% Triple Shielded - 24k Gold Plated Connectors
      Using it for gaming & did more research & came to the conclusion hdmi is FASTER in the short range department but at longer ranges the fiber is & does not get no interference so thats why i made the decision to find a hdmi cord that was shielded in this case tripple but at the cost of length LMAOO i couldnt find nothing that was shieled less then 25 feet smh i at least wanted it be standard 6 foot but it work
      @@steadychaosproductions3376

  • @alexanderxatprime
    @alexanderxatprime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your explanation of it being a pipe, a digital signal, working or not, is incorrect. If that was how digital signals worked we'd never have intermittent internet problems. Materials do matter. Now, if you're running it from a shelf on an entertainment to a location 5 feet away where it's only surrounded by wood, it won't matter. If you're running the hdmi cable through a wall or along other 120v + electrical sources, your signal will be much more susceptible to noise. I'm 4 months late to the scene on this vid, but I just grabbed a 50' fiber hdmi (amazon basics brand) for 54.99. They must have come down in price significantly.

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "HDMI cables are just a dumb pipe. They don't care (to an extent) what you send through them. The main takeaway again is, there's no such thing as an HDR-capable HDMI cable. If the cable is a true High Speed HDMI cable, it can handle HDR. There's nothing special about the new technology, it's just additional data. Think of it as a little extra water down the pipe. As long as the water can fit in the pipe, the pipe doesn't care what's in it...It works, or it doesn't. If it works, it works. There's no "partial HDR" or blurry 4K." HDMI is all or nothing. If you are getting 4K HDR, different cables won't make it look better. That's not how HDMI works."
      -Cnet
      www.cnet.com/news/do-you-need-new-hdmi-cables-for-hdr/#:~:text=HDMI%20cables%20are%20just%20a,an%20%22HDMI%202.0%22%20cable.&text=So%20your%20TV%20might%20be,doesn't%20have%20a%20number.

    • @alexanderxatprime
      @alexanderxatprime 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@steadychaosproductions3376 that's a fine quote. It doesn't encapsulate the science.

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alexanderxatprime ummm, ok. My friend, the signal is sent as 1s and 0s, that's it. The signal either gets from the source to the display, or it doesn't - that's how digital works. If the source signal doesn't make it to the display, there would just be no image.
      Of course, over very long runs, say 30+ feet, there can be some signal attenuation due to distance - which can cause visual cut outs. That's why fiber is recommended over long runs, as a light signal is less susceptible to attenuation.
      However, “In terms of picture quality there’s no difference” (between HDMI cables) explains Jeff Park, Senior Technical Manager for HDMI Licensing, LLC. “It’s digital, so it’s all or nothing. Whether you have a $100 cable or a $5 cable, if they meet the same specification requirements there should be no difference,” says Jeff. “From a technical point of view they are exactly the same. Price is not really indicative of signal quality; they’re not related at all. What determines quality is your source material,” says Park. “You’re not going to get a $100 signal. The quality of the content is everything. Cables, as long as they’re certified, will carry whatever you input and output it exactly the same at the other end.”
      -Jeff Park, Senior Technical Manager, HDMI Licensing
      Of course, you don't want to get a $2 dollar cable if you can help it, as the construction/insulation materials of the cable could be garbage. But there's no need to invest in expensive fiber cables unless you are running long distances.

    • @seanjohnson7367
      @seanjohnson7367 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@steadychaosproductions3376 If that's the case, then why do we get sparkles over long HDMI runs? It's a degradation of the signal but it's still working.

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seanjohnson7367 attenuation. ie diminished or weakened signal due to distance.

  • @94cobragermany
    @94cobragermany 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems to be the biggest difference today between copper and fiber optic HDMI 2.1 48gbs are the prices! The fiber optic seems to be the cheaper choice at the moment.

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, over short runs, there is no difference in quality. However, over long runs, fiber is better.

  • @stugtodd2778
    @stugtodd2778 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I don't own that Diamond AQ HDMI, couldn't afford it for a start but just FYI it's a solid silver core rather than silver plated copper you quoted

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, you are correct, thank you for the reply. I did misspeak there. Regardless, whether a cable is solid or a certain percentage silver/copper doesn't matter as your resulting image quality is exactly the same - at least in my experience. Nothing is faster/more lossless than fiber optic data transmission, and even that image quality is no better than a crappy 10 dollar copper cable.

    • @stugtodd2778
      @stugtodd2778 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@steadychaosproductions3376
      All I'm going to say on the controversial subject is that video circuits aren't balanced. I wouldn't spend thousands but I certainly wouldn't connect junk either.

    • @stugtodd2778
      @stugtodd2778 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also I want to try a short fibre-optic cable. If it was faultless in build then HDMI signal transfer quality stops here for me. They're very cheap to make in comparison to traditional electrical transfer metals/materials that it's pointless (probably) making them any shorter because there's no profit in it as it is. Because there's only a $70 or similar difference in price between 3FT and 80FT or something ridiculous. Obviously dead cheap, and eventually there's lot of companies who make solid HDMI cables who are going to go out of business or just close that part of the business down altogether. Of course fibre-optic is the future and yes it will look better 😉. But I wonder how they will all agree and allow this to even happen to the whole industry.

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stugtodd2778 The shortest fiber cables I have seen are about 6 feet in length: www.amazon.com/BlueAVS-High-Speed-18Gbps-Vision-HDCP2-2/dp/B07PJTQH7Q/ref=sxts_sxwds-bia-wc-drs2_0?cv_ct_cx=fiber+optic+hdmi+cable&dchild=1&keywords=fiber+optic+hdmi+cable&pd_rd_i=B07PJTQH7Q&pd_rd_r=df5fb87c-8f69-4e87-92e1-f84d4ec76068&pd_rd_w=eFNS2&pd_rd_wg=xtkuu&pf_rd_p=055f7364-94db-4b93-80d6-346300592c66&pf_rd_r=AJ6MDNXF4Q8DF6X8DTZE&psc=1&qid=1595272684&sr=1-2-f7123c3d-6c2e-4dbe-9d7a-6185fb77bc58
      I'm not sure how the traditional Hdmi cable business will move forward - I imagine the majority of businesses will simply adapt or die. They'll all start making fiber optic cables and then "invent" something new to claim one cable is better than the other. That said, I wont mourn the loss of the Audioquest HDMI cable line, its snake oil (in my opinion) and they were ripping people off.

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stugtodd2778 Also, for 15 or 20 bucks, there are plenty of high quality HDMI cables that will do the trick. No need to even spend 40 or 50 bucks really.

  • @piqone1
    @piqone1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the only difference would be seen in gaming at 4k 120hz on a run over 15ft

  • @mrko88
    @mrko88 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How long is the cable????

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      both relatively short, few feet.

    • @mrko88
      @mrko88 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@steadychaosproductions3376 i bought the copper one, 5m v2.0, got 4k but only 30hz, they claim from 1-3m will get 60hz, 15-20m 1080p60hz

  • @zayvonking7147
    @zayvonking7147 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That sound came from Contra 1

  • @monroethegreat7539
    @monroethegreat7539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just purchase this same cable on Amazon for the PS5, Someone told me that Sony will provide a HDMI cord with the PS5, But i presume this one will have a better connection i know for a fact sony is not providing a Fiber HDMI cord lol.

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, haha, you are 100% right; Sony isn't going to be giving you a fiber cord. Shit be like $60+ bucks or more in some cases.

    • @monroethegreat7539
      @monroethegreat7539 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@steadychaosproductions3376 Lmao Exactly Sony will give you the bare minimum they already being stingy with the storage capacity on the PS5🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @MensHealthMedia
    @MensHealthMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about gaming? I purchased a PS5 and play online call of duty that transmits a lot of data gaming at 4K 120fps.
    I’m constantly getting big graphical glitches after a few rounds.

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      personally, i notice no difference between the fiber and copper HDMI cables, whether it be for gaming or movies.

    • @MensHealthMedia
      @MensHealthMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@steadychaosproductions3376 more specifically playing the new call of duty black ops Cold War PS5. We play online with two controllers at the same time. It gets very glitchy eventually unless I’m on performance mode. But Ray tracing constantly crashes

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MensHealthMedia interesting. I wonder if thats a system issue or game issue. Sounds pretty crappy.

    • @MensHealthMedia
      @MensHealthMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@steadychaosproductions3376 just wonder if it’s too much data coming in and out with multiplayer and online uploading and downloading maps. If there’s interference.

    • @jcZo23
      @jcZo23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@steadychaosproductions3376 so you're saying there's no reason for fiber optic cable for gaming?

  • @FM-fm2yq
    @FM-fm2yq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe for gaming I'll make a difference in latancy

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ive upgraded almost all my cables to fiber as the price has come down significantly.

  • @stevelawson5499
    @stevelawson5499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fibre optic HDMI I have done hundreds of checks and the fibre hdmi is 30% better picture short runs like 2-8 m then yes

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I havnt test longer runs, say 25+ feet, but I strongly suspect fiber is better. Short runs, I see no difference.

    • @jcZo23
      @jcZo23 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@steadychaosproductions3376 so with a 10footer would you see a difference?

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jcZo23 no.

  • @internationaljacques7248
    @internationaljacques7248 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Contra theme classic

  • @Mr_ToR
    @Mr_ToR ปีที่แล้ว

    starts at 4:06

    • @cainification
      @cainification ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude thank you lol

    • @Mr_ToR
      @Mr_ToR ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cainification after watching this I bought a 30m model. It worked without a problem. I don't know how long it will last but it's great. I will move the HTPC/Game PC to the next room to eliminate fan noise. I paid an equivalent of 80usd in my local curreny from amazon.

  • @thewishmastur
    @thewishmastur ปีที่แล้ว

    No different. You got bamboozled.

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i didnt think there would be much of a difference to be honest.
      The only time fiber really comes into play is when one has really long runs.

  • @carl16760
    @carl16760 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    copper cable are junk. all the kids on ps5 and xbox know. fiber huge difference

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      id agree over long runs mostly though.

    • @carl16760
      @carl16760 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@steadychaosproductions3376 i plugged in a monster cobalt and went to tru motion. The "user" setting has blur and jutter. selecting it made a good size difference. then I ordered a 5 foot 3000 cable...now there is NO difference switching the user setting on and off.

    • @steadychaosproductions3376
      @steadychaosproductions3376  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@carl16760 size does matter when it comes to HDMI signal - at least distance, anyway. Electrical signals get interfered with and attenuate over long distances, fiber signals do not.
      This is well known.
      That said, I cant blame someone going with all fiber for their HDMI cables.

    • @carl16760
      @carl16760 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@steadychaosproductions3376 after this 5 foot experiment copper hdmi should be obsolete...done...gone