Actually tried the Goldwing and found it to be just as uncomfortable as the BMW R18TC, for exactly the same reason. The jugs hanging out of the side and lack of legroom. Also the Goldwing is a bit cramped for a fellow over 6’3” tall. So I bought an Indian Challenger Dark Horse with a Tour Pack, still have my Beemer R1250R, need to have options y’know.
Hi Andy, As a 2021 DCT Goldwing Tour owner for the last couple of years I personally found this video quite entertaining, especially the backroad clip at the end, this really highlights the abilities of the bike and shows just how much fun they can be to ride. Yes the bike is heavy but the pros far outweigh the cons, without doubt this is the best bike I’ve ever owned!
A mild hot hatch would walk one of these on that road at the end - but can't deny the touring capability. The sound is good too for an understated bike.
I've ridden the first model and the old and new models of Goldwing and found they are absolutely great machines especially the new models. Goldwings aren't for everyone figuring in the cost and garage space. However, I've not met anyone in the 47 years that the Goldwing has been around who owned one or has ridden one for more than a few minutes that did not have a high opinion of them.
Had a 1984, 1988, 1995, GoldWing. Ridden a 2006 GW at a Honda demo day. Switched to sport touring with a 2005 ST1300 (new) and rode it 50K miles in five seasons. Switched to Yamaha FJR1300. Have owned 3 of those now. Currently on a 2020. Just tried a new Gen 6 GW this week thinking maybe I’d go back to a GW. They look so good. I’ll give it has a silky smooth engine and good torque in “sport” mode, Cadillac smooth ride. But sorry, still to big (I don’t have a passenger) and not sporty enough for me. Closed down that idea of going back to a GW in my mid 50’s. I’ll stick with sport touring. I can cross the continent no problem on it and do 800 mile days no problem. No GW for me.
That was a lovely little video. Being a 2022 Honda Monkey and, more recently, a 2023 CL 500 Scrambler owner, I really don't understand why some people are against refinement, reliability, and the pure fun of Honda motorcycles
You never heard the phrase......."I'd rather push my harley than ride a honda?" Many still can't get past what the Japanese did 80 years ago or so. Another lifetime and a few generations ago. The same for German cars. I know some who hate VW because of the germans. Years ago I worked at a shop and the boss soon hated me when he found out I drove a 75 VW bug. He was a prisoner of war for a short time and turned against me quickly. I quit a few days later.
Many years ago the guys I rode with myself included would refer to large tourers as 3 humped camels 🐫 and basically slate them as two wheeled cars……whilst riding our Sports bikes around at warp factor 😮. So now 30 years later I ride a BMW RT and really enjoy eating humble pie……
I have seen almost every video you and your misses have put out on the great TH-cam, and I LOVED every one on them, and I wanted so bad an goldwing too, but I can’t afford one, so I watch one of your other videos about an Suzuki dL 650. And wauw I got so excited, it is now my bike since May this year and I have driven almost 8000 km on it so far. Thank you for the videos and what to expect of a bike. (I still want a goldwing) Mr Hall saying thank you 🙏🏼
Thanks Andy. Completely agree. I now own a 2022 DCT Non Tour, the Bagger version, and in Sports mode it is simply phenomenal. I practice riding it whenever I can and firmly believe I'm a better rider as a result. I also still have my 2009 Goldwing which is great for slower but more comfortable (passenger) long distance travel.
Good video. Having test ridden several large bikes, k1600Gt, Gtr1400,R1250RT...I can honestly say I'm a massive fan of these large machines. I can't wait to get my hands on a Goldwing
Absolute stunning machine and spot on with your description I’ve recently been converted to a r1200gs te and exactly after 1 mile fell head over heels in love with it Keep up the top content of work TMF 👌
I loved the "Scratching on a Wing" section after the ending credits. The GoldWing is the _go to_ Moto-taxi in Paris. If you think they're just too big and heavy, you want to see them maneuvering through the Paris traffic. They make and old fuddy-duddy like me on my 700 cc commuter bike look distinctly pedestrian!
If your foolish enough to pay full MSRP and get a full on screwing, so be it. They are not worth that type of money. But I got my new 2018 Tour 6MT for $10k+ off MSRP brand new with one mile on the clock. I would have never paid $28k USD, plus shipping, plus setup, plus covid tax and all the other stupid stuff for my bike.
Yeah, you also have to be doing plenty of touring to appreciate and justify ownership of a Goldwing. Servicing which is essential on a bike like this and running costs ie: tires and petrol etc, can’t be done on a tight budget imo.
2018 Goldwing Tour DCT here. My first bike over 600lbs. My first touring bike. My first 6 cylinder. My first Honda. Did 48,000 miles in 6 months. Absolutely fell in love with it.
Wonderful bikes Andy. You really baited the Wing haters lol! Obviously none of them have ridden the current version. Love these type of videos I get fed up with the passionless anorak descriptive reviews.
You are a great ambassador for motorcycling and the content your produce is top notch. While I agree about some bike seeming to have a stigma, I think that is mostly from people who don't have a lot of real world experience in the world of bikes. In the USA there is a common perception among non-riders that Harley owners in general hate anything that isn't H-D. Almost everyone I know, including myself, who owns a Harley also owns/ has owned other brands. At the Harley events I've attended talk was about bikes. Nobody was standing around bashing other brands. Small sample size but IMO riders are a pretty nuanced group and most of us are just grateful for the moments when we get to be on the road. Ride safe and enjoy your Goldwing. It is a cool machine.
A nicely presented video sir! OF COURSE we are biased, but we are also in total agreement that the Goldwing is the ultimate 2-wheeled machine to be ridden on the roads across continents. You would only need to momentarily glance at the broad range of bikes we receive as trade-ins from people buying goldwings to see how widely appealing this magnificent machine is
Great review Andy... I'm with you in the 50 something age bracket. It's great coming to the realization the other peoples opinions shouldn't matter to us as much as they do sometimes. Love your content and keep up the great work! Cheers - Jim
I have to admit to be guilty of all of your comments regarding the Goldwing and their perceived image Also the size and weight and as you say the image of the older models Im sure if I rode one I would like it and my wife would love it The one complaint she has about our 2023 R1250RS is the rear seat which is heated but not enough room behind her with the top box on We have all ready done 2 tours this year Malorca and Devon and leave for a 3rd this Sunday to France when I get back I will book a test ride Thanks for an eye opening review J
I wondered in to a Honda dealer with my lad who bought a CB500X. I saw the new GW I the corner the B version the chap said give it a go. I was amazed how good it was. Far better than K1600 B & GT. I bought one. I have done a few tours with the mrs and plenty of riding on my own. Covered 7k miles now. In sport mode it really shifts and handles surprisingly well. You will keep up with most in comfort. Great video as always Mr flyer 👍🏻
I’ve always loved and wanted a Goldwing, ever since I passed my test at 17. I am now in my fifties and unfortunately I realise that I will probably never own one. I still think they are great machines and seeing them on the road, brings a smile to my face.
Never say never...I have owned a GL1800 and as lovely as they are I am of the opinion that a GW is only 'ok' if you have another bike (or 3) in the garage....but as a sole machine....no way.
@@BibtheBoulder Very glad you brought that up, I am a one bike person with a 700 which I think is gorgeous but heavy so committing to a wing would be hari-kari hey?
@@drdoolittle5724 They certainly are heavy girls...ironically I have commented on more than a few videos that if I could only have one bike it would be the Honda NC750-X DCT. I owned one a few years back. Incredibly versatile bikes.
I began riding at age 16 and always wanted a Goldwing. At age 52 in 2020 I finally got it! A brand new 2018 Tour non DCT that never sold. In fact, it was still in the crate when I went to look at it.They discounted it so much I couldn’t say ‘no’. Best bike ever. Worth the wait. I also own a 1200RT. (I added the top box) My FIRST BMW. My BMW is my daily rider. I absolutely love that bike as well.
They can get out of shape when pushed hard. One of the places Honda went cheap was the suspension. With no preload up front and only 1980's single point damping front / back and preload out back, it's a hack. The thing that saves it is the multilink and it's geometry up front. And the geometry of the Pro Arm out back. If Honda had screwed up the geometry, current Wing would be no more than a over priced honey wagon.
I recently had a demo on a Goldwing Tour; parked up after 30 mins riding, as I got off the bike someone walked past and I heard him say 'its a two wheeled car' 🙂 However, after just 100m of riding the bike I loved it, so much so I've traded my 1250GS for a new Goldwing Tour (initially I liked the bagger version but fell in love with the Tour after riding it). I get my new Goldwing Tour at the end of August, I can't wait. My mates are already teasing me about being a Goldwing owner. Oh well after being a GS owner (three GS bikes over ~20yrs) I have thick skin 🙂 On a positive note, I borrowed the demo bike for 24 hours, during that time I had more people come over to look at the Goldwing and say good things (non-biker normal folk) than I have had with any bike. Generally nobody even notices my GS and nobody has every said my GS is beautiful. Thank goodness I didn't order the new GSA; people would be crossing the road to avoid coming near it.
A bike is a bike is a bike! Unfortunately there are jealous, clueless folk around who are jealous of others who enjoy something they either can't afford or haven't the balls to ride! Good one Andy, if I win the lottery this Friday I'll definitely be ordering one!
Hi from Quebec 🇨🇦, I was also a Golding basher until Honda redesigned and rethought the Goldwing for 2018. Now it appeals to me a lot because on two trips to Europe a few years ago we rented a Golding and enjoyed it. Probably the next one will be the Goldwing for 2025. Good job 👍🏼
Totally agree. I have a 2022 Bagger which I love, and having owned pretty much every bike type there is, after a year of ownership I think this is the best bike I have had. It is fun, versatile quick when it needs to be and the creep gears are a godsend, and would be on most bikes. Living in the Highlands I have access to glorious roads and my wing' never frustrates. I also lived in Tring for 20 years and enjoy watching you on some of what were my favourite roads, especially round Buckland.
Hello from Denver, Colorado. I agree 1,000%! Been riding Honda's (dirt & street) for 50 years. Sold a '13 GW F6B. Got a white 2018 DCT tour. OMG, what a bike! Debated on the DCT, but got it and after 2-3 miles I will never go back tom a clutch. I ride the paved mountain 2-lane twisties here in Colorado, and the low CG + gobs of torque make it the bomb! Brakes rip your face off, and the suspension is off the charts! Only "issue" is slow-speed maneuvers are harder w the DCT, vs "old school" feathering the clutch, brakes, and fuel. Never had the issue, but my Honda mechanic said the clutch systems in the DCT don't like slow-speeds and can fail. No bike is perfect, right?
Well said, I’m 63 had three GSs and now ride a supposedly ‘unreliable’ Ducati Multistrada, and I don’t give a toss what other bikers say. Love what you ride whether it’s got two wheels or even three with the Niken🤣. My wife would love me to ride a Goldwing but my garage is too untidy unlike yours.
I honestly don't understand people being sniffy about other folks bikes. I don't care what someone rides as long as they love it and get enjoyment from it. That's what it's all about.
Hey! Love the content about the Goldwing! Any chance you could do a review about the older Goldwings? I ride the 2012 Goldwing so would love to hear your views and comments about the previous model and the difference and improvements since. Btw, I got my 2012 Goldwing 2 years ago . I’ve still got a few years to go before hitting 40. So yeah! There are younger Goldwing riders lurking out there 😂 Cheers!
Many Wingers consider yours to be the best gen Goldwing ever built. In many ways your 5th gen is a better over all bike. While it is larger and heavy as hell and in many ways was out of date style wise when it came out. And it does have old tech suspension. The forks can be kitted out and a much better rear shock and spring combo can be fitted. You can truly make the suspension great! And it does have the better engine. The two valve engine is much quieter and very tunable. It is pre eurotrash4/5 and can be tuned very high and never over stress it. It has steel sleeves in the cylinders, cams are shim and bucket, better rod and main bearing setup, better piston rings and no DCT. Just a simple tune with no exhaust or intake mods is good for 20 to 25 hp. And it goes up from there with cams and finally exhaust and intake mods. With exhaust and intake modes being the least bang for your buck. Your not missing anything by having a 5th gen at all.
Unfortunately One of the most important things that desenters miss, is that stripped back all bikes, are a frame wheels and engine.. So to me a bike is a bike, they are all great fun. Yes i have favourites, but I don't have hates... Nice piece Andy.
I'm on my 5th Wing, my first being a "plain Jane" GL 1000 back in 1980 when i was just 20!! I absolutely love the GW, with the latest incarnation being the best of the lot. Yes, I would change a couple of things, particularly the tank range, but no bike is perfect. Taken as a whole package, the GW is sublime!
Wow, my first gl was also in 1980. a 1976 gl 1000 canary yellow. loved it and put about 40,000 in about 2 years riding. It was my main transportation. Only hated the 4 carbs. thought about building a 4 into 1 intake like a VW engine port but I did not have the shop or equipment to do it. I would love EFI, hate carbs. But I've rebuilt them all. Just more tedious.
Like you I ride a 21plate bagger and it's amazing, when I need a wrag it day I take out my limited edition Gs1200 no 95/100 the one I wanted with clocks not tft 😊 keep up the great work. Stewarty
Best bike I've ever owned. I have a 2019 non tour DCT. I've owned sport bikes, adv bikes, naked bikes, standards and it's the best. Like you I'm in my 50's and this bike is just so good in every way.
Andy, I love the look of the Goldwing and would like to own one, unfortunately buying one would put a very big dent in our savings, and I am sure my wife who doesn't share my passion for bikes as Mrs Flyer does would have something to say about that. As I am a pensioner with doggy knees and ankles I am not sure I could move it about with confidence and that would be my only gripe about the bike. I just about manage my Triumph Speedmaster1200cc. Keep the videos coming Andy, they are a great joy to watch.
I think you are totally right Andy, most people who criticise the Wing in the way you describe have never ridden a Wing and miss the point completely. The bike is amazing.
Hi Andy, I have ridden the non DCT 2018 Goldwing and while it is a FANTASTIC motorcycle, I have to disagree with you about it being the ultimate tourer. I prefer the new R1250RT (after renting one for two weeks in Colorado last year). Same super low center of gravity, a little lighter, easily more flickable, plenty of power and uber comfortable. Keep the videos coming. I really enjoyed the CB1100 review. I've been debating getting one.
The RT is great (I just rode 1000 miles through Italy on a new one) but it isn't as comfortable as the Wing, doesn't have that 6 cylinder engine and has looks only a mother can love.....well that's my thinking - still an awesome machine though despite that. Better value too.
Thanks Mr. Flyer, I actually envy you being able and confident enough to ride such a large machine. I've been biking for many, many years but haven't ridden - let alone owed as many bikes as you, so If you say it's a great bike you'll get no argument from me. I don't understand why different groups sometimes distance themselves from others - We're all bikers (and road users) after all. I started on mopeds at 16 and one day the bike broke down on a rather quiet road and I was failing miserably to sort it when a group of large and hairy bikers on big and noisy bikes pulled up in their scruffy leathers and cut off denim jackets. They surrounded the bike and started "attacking" it pulling bits off and generally causing mayhem, but then they roared off and sitting in the lay-by was my little bike ticking over better than ever and ready to ride home. Since then I try not to judge on appearances :>)
I love the gold wing I have no need for one or even want one but I think it’s a fantastic piece of engineering, if I was going to own one tho I’d get the original GL1000 from the 70s.
Fellow Fan boy! Fellow mid-50's! 2023 DCT Tour. Love Love mine! I wouldn't have purchased a pre-2018 goldwing. Love the sporty look of the new body style.
5:45 That's what I like to see. Often you are very low down in the rev range and always feel you lug the engine. Good to see you stretch the legs every now and then. Don't get me wrong, love your content. Keep up the great work.
I'm a video game player in addition to being a motorcycle rider (2020 CB500X) and whenever I see someone riding a Goldwing my first thought is that they've sufficiently levelled up to be able to ride one. I see it as kind of like getting a legendary item/mount in a game. Also, whenever I come across Goldwing riders I get the impression that they're the happiest and most easy going riders out there. As the saying goes, "You meet the nicest people on a Honda"
I owned the very first Honda Goldwing GL1000 in the UK back in the early 70's, it was like riding a cloud compared to any other bike of that period, it was ground breaking, I blew the engine up after 3 months and had to trade it for another exact same new bike, people marvelled over it back then. I also own a BMW GSA now and likewise some people hate it for no other reason than they've seen other people on social media criticising it, I think it makes them feel like they know what they are talking about and makes them feel like a superior biker, I've been riding motorcycles since I was 16 back in 1972, after more than 50 years riding many different brands and styles of bikes I love all bikes, I couldn't care less for anyone else's negative opinions, I know what bikes are good for me and what I like and that's the ones I'll be riding and that's because I have a mind of my own.
Took one for a test ride at a rally on the east coast of Canada. We left from a very busy parking lot and because of the weight, I was praying I wouldn't be "that guy" who dropped it in the parking lot. I was amazed at just how easy it was to manoeuvre in tight spaces, even more impressed with the ride once out in the country. Great bike!!
I would love a bike like yours it just won’t happen I can’t afford it sadly. I watched your Pan European review and a really nice bike is now in my grasp at a price I can afford.
Like yourself Andy I'm old enough to not worry what others think of my 22 tour dtc, but from one owner to another my 3 hates are 1 The stupid panniers for the size of the bike. 2 Ground clearance, I've taken mine to Portugal twice now and playing on lovely continental roads you soon scrape the pegs.. 3 I find the thing so comfortable that I wish the tank was a bit bigger so I didnt need to stop every 230 or so miles. That's never been a thing on any bike I've had before, always needed a break much sooner.. As you know its a bike that just makes you smile every ride.
Don't know how easy or hard it is for you gents over there to order from the States, but there is a company here called Corbin which makes extended pannier doors for the Wing which are claimed to add 10 liters to the luggage capacity. They also have an extended capacity trunk lid for the 2018 through 2020 Golf Wing.
I was once stopped for the only traffic light in a small CO mountain town, when a Goldwing pulled along side in the turn lane. I casually glanced over it...then did a doubletake; The name plate on the side read: "Oldwing". It was so professionally done, that it looked like a factory original plate. LOL!
As an expat Brit in Australia I never fail to love seeing the green lanes and Chiltern lanes of my youth. Love the videos, keep them coming. Hate is a strong and easily understood word, surely dislike a much better choice.
I'm in my 50s too, however, I bought one new in 2003. I was 38 and still didn't give a $@#! about what people thought back then. I knew the bike! Here in the states many feel if it's not a Harley its a sissy bike. I rode a Harley once and thought I really didn't like the machine. No refinement, just seemed loud and a little clunky. The way you were riding at the end reminds me of the feeling I get when I'm on mine. I tend to forget how smooth and powerful it is. Nice color by the way. Enjoy!
Fantastic bike, I sat on a bagger version at the NEC in November, I thought it was great looking, very comfortable, great value, but a lot of money. I take it you won't be getting a trailer for yours Andy!!
Thanks for this. The only thing I hate bout it is that I don’t live on the bike 200 days/year so I don’t need one. Ignore the haters: you have the best bike on the planet for two-up touring. Thanks again.
I had one identical to yours. 22 DCT tour in the blue. Sold it after 8000 miles and bought a Indian Chieftain Darkhorse. I love it but I stilll miss the Goldwing. Might even get another one this year. It's a great bike and the DCT takes nothing away from it as a motorcycle. The seat is a bit hard and very wide but apart from that its fantastic
The stereotype is real here in the states. Big over weight folks on the big over weight bike pulling a trailer, some a camper, massive trikes with some of them pulling a trailer or camper. With many of them having tuned engines and still buttery smooth and quiet. I've even seen some folks pulling converted John boats behind there Wings. Imagine a miniature all aluminum Brit narrow boat.
I'm happy for you in having found a comfortable bike. We can't all afford a wing and there is so little choice in the middle weight sector where the big sellers are all naked retros
I agree absolutely with everything you say. I've had my DCT Goldwing Tour for 4 years now. I have done approaching 25000 miles on it so have got to know it pretty well. There are so many incorrect myths about them which, as you alluded to, are mostly spread by people who have never actually ridden one. The weight is absolutely no problem at all. I am 62 yrs old, been riding since 1978, stand 5' 6.5" tall (I sometimes claim an extra 1/2 inch at 5 "7" haha) and weigh in at 10.5 stone. I have no problems handling the bike in all circumstances including pushing it around backwards and forwards (the creep modes are very useful on slopes and rough surfaces though) and putting it on and off the centre stand. It is all down to correct technique not strength. IMO if you find the bike too heavy it isn't because it is but rather because you just ain't doing it right. Currently I have three other bikes (1976 Goldwing K1, 1979 CBX1000Z and a little CB175) and have ridden many other big bikes of numerous manufacturers, my last modern one being a Pan European. I find the new Goldwing is actually easier to manage than most of those other big bikes (exception being my two old FJ1200s) because of the centralised mass and the ergonomics suit quite small people, i.e. I am not stretching to reach anything, including the ground. Also some people talk down the DCT. I was sceptical at first and initially thought I'd made a mistake opting for it. But after riding with it for a couple of thousand miles or so and fully sussing out how to use it all to best advantage I realised just how good it really is. A brief test ride, especially on a bike with low miles and not properly bedded in, isn't enough time to familiarise with it properly and can actually create a false impression if you've never ridden with it before and don't fully appreciate how it all works. All in all I love the bike and use it for everything from popping to the shops to full on long distance riding. I can't see myself parting with it for a long time to come. One other thing to say. Since I have had it I have not had one single fault. Not even a niggle. Just had to replace the usual consumables. It was expensive for sure but I certainly do not feel I've been ripped off. IMO, considering how well each of my bikes has lived up to my hopes and expectations, this Goldwing is the best bike I've ever owned by quite some margin.
Wow, funny how we both said technique. Steering wheel to the right and put all your weight on that arm and pull with your right arm and up my 1500 goes. It's not about strength. 🙂
Hi Andy, I love your videos mate! Keep up the good work! What's the bike like through the corners say on a twisty road being ridden spiritedly? I'm at the stage where i need a very comfy, low and easy to use bike and selling my old GS and newer R1250RS. Thanks in advance!
It’s great - but it’s not a sport bike. Clearly there’s a weight and geometry penalty to pay for in a bike of this type - I personally love the way it handles….
@@TheMissendenFlyer thank you for sharing your perspective, I’m pretty much sold on the idea. I shall watch a few more of your vids! There are no press or test bikes available in Madrid at the moment, I will try and get a test ride soon to see what it’s like. If I can’t I may have to fly back home to Blighty and get a test ride there. Cheers
Love your channel and follow along. As a long time biker and restorer I wonder how all this tech will be in fourty years. I would hate to sort out problems. Weight and size work against you with age. Trying to get a leg over some bikes is a laugh. How many indicators I have broke by kicking them. Air suspension hhmmmm. Like the old Citroën cars . Have fun take care.
Hi Andy, I bought a 2023 DCT base version in January after watching endless videos and was entranced by the new shape, now I have to state that I am an absolute fan of the old style VFRs having owned 3 during the 90's and racking up countless miles, the new GW reminds me of that old shape and definitely has some of that sport-tourer DNA, but here's the rub, I found because it handles extremely well it was coaxing me into riding a bit too sporty for it's mass namely coming into roundabouts and long curves, I kept catching my boot on the floor and sometimes wasn't actually sure I was going to get the thing hauled up in time, don't get me wrong I still love the look but I could see the potential for big bills later on, the other thing I found is I couldn't actually do any maintenance on it myself, shaft drive and fixed panniers were barriers I couldn't circumvent, I liked the weekly check of tyres and chain, but removing the back wheel seemed to me mission impossible when it came to tyre change, lastly because of the riding position with feet slightly forward my backside started to ache after a few hours as I wasn't supporting my weight with my thighs, I am a divorcee now so pillions were out, so in my opinion it's a great bike....for some, I've swopped mine and I'm waiting for an NT1100 DCT, cheers.
My wife and I test rode a 2018 when they first came out, but decided to stay with our aging 2007 BMW K1200LT for a few reasons: 1. Too little luggage capacity. Simply not suitable for long distance two-up travel. 2. Too little fuel capacity compared to its peers (BMWs mainly). 3. Lousy factory navigation system. 4. Too hard seats. Now, the seat is easily fixed and an aftermarket nav system can be fitted. Corbin addressed the storage issues and Honda has more recently addressed the top trunk and rumor is they may address the side cases soon. The fuel capacity is not so easily rectified in the aftermarket. I am still looking for an LT replacement and BMW is no long an option for a number of reasons, but key being the nearest dealer is now 140 miles away after the closure of the one I bought my LT from and BMW has dropped service manuals for owners so doing one’s own maintenance and repair on new models will be difficult. I am hopeful Honda will address the side case capacity per the rumor and I hope they will address the fuel capacity and add at least a gallon and they really should match the 1600 BMWs. I haven’t heard as many complaints recently about the nav system so maybe they have addressed that sufficiently with software updates.
just purchased a 2023 dct tour. been on bikes for over 45 years. it is only heavy sitting still under way theres no way it feel like 850lbs. most think because its big its slow not so bruttaly fast bike.the only haters are those who havent been on one
Great 'vid' really pleased you didn't "slag' the Goldwing off, even though I'm a K1600 GT owner myself I still think the Goldwing is an awesome bike and I'm truly tempted to buy one , my only reservation is how will I get on with the DCT (I really should test ride a DCT version) As for those bikers who think its to big and isn't really a motorcycle, I'm with you 100% 'who cares what they think ' all that matters is you like it and it puts a smile on your face every time you ride it.
I whole heartedly agree with your comment that some people won't buy a certain motorcycle or other thing or do something in life because they fear what others will think. The right attitude is who cares, do what makes you happy (as long as you can afford it) and as Teapot One often says '"Live your life", for you and not to satisfy or seek the approval of others. Nicely done TMF, I'd have a Wing in a heartbeat. Cheers.
Best large motorcycle engine ever produced, period. Faster than most tourers other than the bmw or a 50K HD CVO. I’m about to pick up a 23 manual transmission tourer this weekend, this will be my fourth wing and 27 th overall bike. I’m very excited to get reacquainted. Sold the last one due to dislike of the DCT, it’s just not for me. Very happy they still make a manual.
I’ve never ridden a Goldwing, but I think it and the CRF are about the only two Honda’s I’d ever consider buying. The rest just seem a bit, well dull to me. I must get on a Goldwing at some stage.
I'm a convert to the gen6 Goldwing Tour this season... I don't believe I fit any stereotypical "Goldwing rider" mold and I'm blown away by the bike. I've been riding all my life and never have I rode a bike like the Wing. Its damn near perfect for the type of riding I do.. Which is fast pace touring, 2up(mostly) sticking to the back, secondary and country roads, with the occasional highway run if I have to make time. I have to admit(and get used to) the fact that a Goldwing is pretty vanilla. It doesn't have the cool factor or rawness of my previous Victory XC, but the Wing does everything better and in more comfort. So since I'm riding it and not showing it off....I really don't care 😉
the only thing i hate about them is i can't afford one
Yes they are eye wateringly expensive new I agree - and I suspect is the main beef most people have with them....
@@TheMissendenFlyer true that's the beef most people have
What i like about the Goldwing is the boxer engine. Have it in my Subaru legacy. Nice engine.
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Actually tried the Goldwing and found it to be just as uncomfortable as the BMW R18TC, for exactly the same reason. The jugs hanging out of the side and lack of legroom. Also the Goldwing is a bit cramped for a fellow over 6’3” tall. So I bought an Indian Challenger Dark Horse with a Tour Pack, still have my Beemer R1250R, need to have options y’know.
Hi Andy,
As a 2021 DCT Goldwing Tour owner for the last couple of years I personally found this video quite entertaining, especially the backroad clip at the end, this really highlights the abilities of the bike and shows just how much fun they can be to ride.
Yes the bike is heavy but the pros far outweigh the cons, without doubt this is the best bike I’ve ever owned!
Yep - it's up there in my top 2 too!!
A mild hot hatch would walk one of these on that road at the end - but can't deny the touring capability. The sound is good too for an understated bike.
I love that last bit in the video. Just you, the bike and the wind. Can you please have a minute of this at the end of every review?
I've ridden the first model and the old and new models of Goldwing and found they are absolutely great machines especially the new models. Goldwings aren't for everyone figuring in the cost and garage space. However, I've not met anyone in the 47 years that the Goldwing has been around who owned one or has ridden one for more than a few minutes that did not have a high opinion of them.
Had a 1984, 1988, 1995, GoldWing. Ridden a 2006 GW at a Honda demo day. Switched to sport touring with a 2005 ST1300 (new) and rode it 50K miles in five seasons. Switched to Yamaha FJR1300. Have owned 3 of those now. Currently on a 2020.
Just tried a new Gen 6 GW this week thinking maybe I’d go back to a GW. They look so good. I’ll give it has a silky smooth engine and good torque in “sport” mode, Cadillac smooth ride. But sorry, still to big (I don’t have a passenger) and not sporty enough for me. Closed down that idea of going back to a GW in my mid 50’s. I’ll stick with sport touring. I can cross the continent no problem on it and do 800 mile days no problem. No GW for me.
That was a lovely little video. Being a 2022 Honda Monkey and, more recently, a 2023 CL 500 Scrambler owner, I really don't understand why some people are against refinement, reliability, and the pure fun of Honda motorcycles
You never heard the phrase......."I'd rather push my harley than ride a honda?" Many still can't get past what the Japanese did 80 years ago or so. Another lifetime and a few generations ago. The same for German cars. I know some who hate VW because of the germans. Years ago I worked at a shop and the boss soon hated me when he found out I drove a 75 VW bug. He was a prisoner of war for a short time and turned against me quickly. I quit a few days later.
Many years ago the guys I rode with myself included would refer to large tourers as 3 humped camels 🐫 and basically slate them as two wheeled cars……whilst riding our Sports bikes around at warp factor 😮. So now 30 years later I ride a BMW RT and really enjoy eating humble pie……
I have seen almost every video you and your misses have put out on the great TH-cam, and I LOVED every one on them, and I wanted so bad an goldwing too, but I can’t afford one, so I watch one of your other videos about an Suzuki dL 650. And wauw I got so excited, it is now my bike since May this year and I have driven almost 8000 km on it so far.
Thank you for the videos and what to expect of a bike. (I still want a goldwing)
Mr Hall saying thank you 🙏🏼
I’m delighted you enjoy our videos - good choice with the SV!
Love my 2018 DCT Tour!! Just a terrific bike!! Love your comments! I totally agree!
Glad we concur!
Thanks Andy. Completely agree. I now own a 2022 DCT Non Tour, the Bagger version, and in Sports mode it is simply phenomenal. I practice riding it whenever I can and firmly believe I'm a better rider as a result. I also still have my 2009 Goldwing which is great for slower but more comfortable (passenger) long distance travel.
Good video. Having test ridden several large bikes, k1600Gt, Gtr1400,R1250RT...I can honestly say I'm a massive fan of these large machines. I can't wait to get my hands on a Goldwing
Ooh I think you're going to like it.....
Absolute stunning machine and spot on with your description
I’ve recently been converted to a r1200gs te and exactly after 1 mile fell head over heels in love with it
Keep up the top content of work TMF 👌
Thank you - appreciate that....and as you know I love the GS too!
just got mine yesterday, a 2023 tour, it is a masterpiece, a brilliant machine !
Great aren't they - what colour?
I loved the "Scratching on a Wing" section after the ending credits. The GoldWing is the _go to_ Moto-taxi in Paris. If you think they're just too big and heavy, you want to see them maneuvering through the Paris traffic. They make and old fuddy-duddy like me on my 700 cc commuter bike look distinctly pedestrian!
Wow I'd like to see that!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Next time you come over towards/near Paris, let me know we'll sort something out.
Love the faster ride at the end. Handles the choppy road well.
Yes it does - the thing can hustle if you want it too....
The main problem is the price, I’m sure many would love one if they had the cash.
Yes that is a very valid point - these are expensive ol' beasts!
Haggle …….. a lot!
If your foolish enough to pay full MSRP and get a full on screwing, so be it. They are not worth that type of money. But I got my new 2018 Tour 6MT for $10k+ off MSRP brand new with one mile on the clock. I would have never paid $28k USD, plus shipping, plus setup, plus covid tax and all the other stupid stuff for my bike.
Exactly. Plus the space to keep one. This again is a "cash" problem, i.e. a house with a big garage is needed !
Yeah, you also have to be doing plenty of touring to appreciate and justify ownership of a Goldwing. Servicing which is essential on a bike like this and running costs ie: tires and petrol etc, can’t be done on a tight budget imo.
40,000 miles & counting on my 6th gen Goldwing tour. Great machine.
2018 Goldwing Tour DCT here. My first bike over 600lbs. My first touring bike. My first 6 cylinder. My first Honda. Did 48,000 miles in 6 months. Absolutely fell in love with it.
Hi! Managed to pause the "Small Print" clip. Wise words. Your insights, humor and non-PC approach are all appreciated. Keep up the great work!
Thank you Phil - and well done with your pausing!
Honestly to own such a magnificent machine ❤ nothing is wrong with it but people’s perception of what could be better.
Wonderful bikes Andy. You really baited the Wing haters lol! Obviously none of them have ridden the current version. Love these type of videos I get fed up with the passionless anorak descriptive reviews.
Thank you!
It's your channel... You can talk bout what you like.
Cheers! (..and of course I will)
You are a great ambassador for motorcycling and the content your produce is top notch. While I agree about some bike seeming to have a stigma, I think that is mostly from people who don't have a lot of real world experience in the world of bikes. In the USA there is a common perception among non-riders that Harley owners in general hate anything that isn't H-D. Almost everyone I know, including myself, who owns a Harley also owns/ has owned other brands. At the Harley events I've attended talk was about bikes. Nobody was standing around bashing other brands. Small sample size but IMO riders are a pretty nuanced group and most of us are just grateful for the moments when we get to be on the road. Ride safe and enjoy your Goldwing. It is a cool machine.
Yes I agree! Thanks for stopping by…
A nicely presented video sir! OF COURSE we are biased, but we are also in total agreement that the Goldwing is the ultimate 2-wheeled machine to be ridden on the roads across continents. You would only need to momentarily glance at the broad range of bikes we receive as trade-ins from people buying goldwings to see how widely appealing this magnificent machine is
unless your a harley lover. They hate anything honda that you can ride dependably instead of pushing their harley typically. 🤣🤣
Honda have spent over 45yrs refining the Gold Wing and it shows! Love the final minute of this video which just proves the point 😊
Yes I enjoyed that - thanks for watching until the very end!
@@TheMissendenFlyer trouble is I’m now wondering how to raise £25/30k lol 😆
....sorry about that....
Great review Andy... I'm with you in the 50 something age bracket. It's great coming to the realization the other peoples opinions shouldn't matter to us as much as they do sometimes. Love your content and keep up the great work! Cheers - Jim
Cheers Jim - appreciate that!
I have to admit to be guilty of all of your comments regarding the Goldwing and their perceived image
Also the size and weight and as you say the image of the older models
Im sure if I rode one I would like it and my wife would love it
The one complaint she has about our 2023 R1250RS is the rear seat which is heated but not enough room behind her with the top box on
We have all ready done 2 tours this year Malorca and Devon and leave for a 3rd this Sunday to France when I get back I will book a test ride
Thanks for an eye opening review
J
Wow - I’m glad you found it that way! Have a great trip, hope the weather is kind for you!
I wondered in to a Honda dealer with my lad who bought a CB500X. I saw the new GW I the corner the B version the chap said give it a go. I was amazed how good it was. Far better than K1600 B & GT. I bought one. I have done a few tours with the mrs and plenty of riding on my own. Covered 7k miles now. In sport mode it really shifts and handles surprisingly well. You will keep up with most in comfort. Great video as always Mr flyer 👍🏻
Thank you - and so glad you’re a fan of the ‘Wing too!
Hi Andy ,back in the day I had a GL1000 Gold Wing all my mates said I was mad,I was not it was a brilliant bike.Your Gold Wing looks fantastic enjoy.
Thanks Tony - will do...
I’ve always loved and wanted a Goldwing, ever since I passed my test at 17. I am now in my fifties and unfortunately I realise that I will probably never own one. I still think they are great machines and seeing them on the road, brings a smile to my face.
Never say never...I have owned a GL1800 and as lovely as they are I am of the opinion that a GW is only 'ok' if you have another bike (or 3) in the garage....but as a sole machine....no way.
@@BibtheBoulder Very glad you brought that up, I am a one bike person with a 700 which I think is gorgeous but heavy so committing to a wing would be hari-kari hey?
@@drdoolittle5724 They certainly are heavy girls...ironically I have commented on more than a few videos that if I could only have one bike it would be the Honda NC750-X DCT. I owned one a few years back. Incredibly versatile bikes.
@@BibtheBoulder Well, I have the NC700D and in 50+ years biking, think, 'Iv'e arrived', which makes going for a wing so v difficult!
@@drdoolittle5724 Then you'll know all about what a fabulous machine they are, and how easy they are to handle. I wouldn't mind another one myself...
I began riding at age 16 and always wanted a Goldwing. At age 52 in 2020 I finally got it! A brand new 2018 Tour non DCT that never sold. In fact, it was still in the crate when I went to look at it.They discounted it so much I couldn’t say ‘no’. Best bike ever. Worth the wait. I also own a 1200RT. (I added the top box) My FIRST BMW. My BMW is my daily rider. I absolutely love that bike as well.
Impressed seeing it hustle at the end. You’d assume the suspension would get out of sorts with all that weight but it seemed on top of everything
Yes it was a little bouncy but in the main soaks up the bumps a treat (and there are a lot of them around here!)
They can get out of shape when pushed hard. One of the places Honda went cheap was the suspension.
With no preload up front and only 1980's single point damping front / back and preload out back, it's a hack. The thing that saves it is the multilink and it's geometry up front. And the geometry of the Pro Arm out back. If Honda had screwed up the geometry, current Wing would be no more than a over priced honey wagon.
I love my 2023 DCT Tour as much as you, good to see you using the rev range & enjoying the exhaust sound.
Yes it's an awesome engine that six isn't it....
I recently had a demo on a Goldwing Tour; parked up after 30 mins riding, as I got off the bike someone walked past and I heard him say 'its a two wheeled car' 🙂 However, after just 100m of riding the bike I loved it, so much so I've traded my 1250GS for a new Goldwing Tour (initially I liked the bagger version but fell in love with the Tour after riding it). I get my new Goldwing Tour at the end of August, I can't wait. My mates are already teasing me about being a Goldwing owner. Oh well after being a GS owner (three GS bikes over ~20yrs) I have thick skin 🙂 On a positive note, I borrowed the demo bike for 24 hours, during that time I had more people come over to look at the Goldwing and say good things (non-biker normal folk) than I have had with any bike. Generally nobody even notices my GS and nobody has every said my GS is beautiful. Thank goodness I didn't order the new GSA; people would be crossing the road to avoid coming near it.
I'm completely with you on all points - the 'Wing is a magnificent piece of engineering IMO.
A bike is a bike is a bike! Unfortunately there are jealous, clueless folk around who are jealous of others who enjoy something they either can't afford or haven't the balls to ride! Good one Andy, if I win the lottery this Friday I'll definitely be ordering one!
Good plan - let me know how it goes.....
A great bike ridden by a great TH-camr!! Had me a little concerned down that lane at the end!! 😄
You are very kind!
"I'm at that age now, in my 50's and i really don t give a monkey on what other people think" best line ever 🙂
You care even less when your in your 60s
Ouch, even poor Mrs TMF!
Someday I'd like to ride one. I'm sure I'll enjoy the ride.
I'm sure you will!
Remember going on the back of my mates original gold wing, most comfortable pillion ride ever.
Two wheels good, four wheels only in necessity 😊
Agreed!
Had an earlier model. Loved it. The vibration as she pulled hard up hills was addictive!
what vibration??? Did you have something battery powered in your pocket? my goldwings have never vibrated. Something is coming undone.
Hi from Quebec 🇨🇦, I was also a Golding basher until Honda redesigned and rethought the Goldwing for 2018. Now it appeals to me a lot because on two trips to Europe a few years ago we rented a Golding and enjoyed it. Probably the next one will be the Goldwing for 2025. Good job 👍🏼
I'm the same as you - I don't like the pre 2018 Gold Wings at all....
Totally agree. I have a 2022 Bagger which I love, and having owned pretty much every bike type there is, after a year of ownership I think this is the best bike I have had. It is fun, versatile quick when it needs to be and the creep gears are a godsend, and would be on most bikes. Living in the Highlands I have access to glorious roads and my wing' never frustrates. I also lived in Tring for 20 years and enjoy watching you on some of what were my favourite roads, especially round Buckland.
Nice one! Give me a wave if you see me out and about!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer If you come back to Scotland I can tell you all the good cafes for you and Mrs Flyer as I know how much you like them
Hello from Denver, Colorado. I agree 1,000%! Been riding Honda's (dirt & street) for 50 years. Sold a '13 GW F6B. Got a white 2018 DCT tour. OMG, what a bike! Debated on the DCT, but got it and after 2-3 miles I will never go back tom a clutch. I ride the paved mountain 2-lane twisties here in Colorado, and the low CG + gobs of torque make it the bomb! Brakes rip your face off, and the suspension is off the charts! Only "issue" is slow-speed maneuvers are harder w the DCT, vs "old school" feathering the clutch, brakes, and fuel. Never had the issue, but my Honda mechanic said the clutch systems in the DCT don't like slow-speeds and can fail. No bike is perfect, right?
True - but the Wing is close!!
Well said, I’m 63 had three GSs and now ride a supposedly ‘unreliable’ Ducati Multistrada, and I don’t give a toss what other bikers say. Love what you ride whether it’s got two wheels or even three with the Niken🤣. My wife would love me to ride a Goldwing but my garage is too untidy unlike yours.
I don't have a garage, but a carport and a bike cover in south florida with hurricanes. 🙂
I honestly don't understand people being sniffy about other folks bikes. I don't care what someone rides as long as they love it and get enjoyment from it. That's what it's all about.
Agreed 100%
Hey! Love the content about the Goldwing! Any chance you could do a review about the older Goldwings? I ride the 2012 Goldwing so would love to hear your views and comments about the previous model and the difference and improvements since. Btw, I got my 2012 Goldwing 2 years ago . I’ve still got a few years to go before hitting 40. So yeah! There are younger Goldwing riders lurking out there 😂
Cheers!
I'd certainly like a go on one to see if I'm doing them a dis-service by not being a fan of the pre-2018.....I'll see what I can do - stay tuned!!
Many Wingers consider yours to be the best gen Goldwing ever built. In many ways your 5th gen is a better over all bike. While it is larger and heavy as hell and in many ways was out of date style wise when it came out. And it does have old tech suspension. The forks can be kitted out and a much better rear shock and spring combo can be fitted. You can truly make the suspension great! And it does have the better engine. The two valve engine is much quieter and very tunable. It is pre eurotrash4/5 and can be tuned very high and never over stress it. It has steel sleeves in the cylinders, cams are shim and bucket, better rod and main bearing setup, better piston rings and no DCT. Just a simple tune with no exhaust or intake mods is good for 20 to 25 hp. And it goes up from there with cams and finally exhaust and intake mods. With exhaust and intake modes being the least bang for your buck. Your not missing anything by having a 5th gen at all.
Unfortunately One of the most important things that desenters miss, is that stripped back all bikes, are a frame wheels and engine.. So to me a bike is a bike, they are all great fun. Yes i have favourites, but I don't have hates... Nice piece Andy.
Thank you Graham….
I'm on my 5th Wing, my first being a "plain Jane" GL 1000 back in 1980 when i was just 20!! I absolutely love the GW, with the latest incarnation being the best of the lot. Yes, I would change a couple of things, particularly the tank range, but no bike is perfect. Taken as a whole package, the GW is sublime!
Wow - clearly more of a fan than even I am!!!
Wow, my first gl was also in 1980. a 1976 gl 1000 canary yellow. loved it and put about 40,000 in about 2 years riding. It was my main transportation. Only hated the 4 carbs. thought about building a 4 into 1 intake like a VW engine port but I did not have the shop or equipment to do it. I would love EFI, hate carbs. But I've rebuilt them all. Just more tedious.
That blue paint you chose is truly stunning.
Thank you!
Like you I ride a 21plate bagger and it's amazing, when I need a wrag it day I take out my limited edition Gs1200 no 95/100 the one I wanted with clocks not tft 😊 keep up the great work. Stewarty
Best bike I've ever owned. I have a 2019 non tour DCT. I've owned sport bikes, adv bikes, naked bikes, standards and it's the best. Like you I'm in my 50's and this bike is just so good in every way.
The only thing I hate about my bike is the lack of decent weather to ride it this year....
Tell me about it!!
Andy, I love the look of the Goldwing and would like to own one, unfortunately buying one would put a very big dent in our savings, and I am sure my wife who doesn't share my passion for bikes as Mrs Flyer does would have something to say about that.
As I am a pensioner with doggy knees and ankles I am not sure I could move it about with confidence and that would be my only gripe about the bike. I just about manage my Triumph Speedmaster1200cc.
Keep the videos coming Andy, they are a great joy to watch.
Thank you John - I appreciate that!
I think you are totally right Andy, most people who criticise the Wing in the way you describe have never ridden a Wing and miss the point completely. The bike is amazing.
Glad we concur!
Your riding has really improved since I first started watching your videos Andy. Well done.
Thank you very much! ....I've done quite a lot of it.....
Hi Andy,
I have ridden the non DCT 2018 Goldwing and while it is a FANTASTIC motorcycle, I have to disagree with you about it being the ultimate tourer. I prefer the new R1250RT (after renting one for two weeks in Colorado last year). Same super low center of gravity, a little lighter, easily more flickable, plenty of power and uber comfortable.
Keep the videos coming. I really enjoyed the CB1100 review. I've been debating getting one.
The RT is great (I just rode 1000 miles through Italy on a new one) but it isn't as comfortable as the Wing, doesn't have that 6 cylinder engine and has looks only a mother can love.....well that's my thinking - still an awesome machine though despite that. Better value too.
@@TheMissendenFlyer 100% correct on the looks. Once they opened that large oval shape on the side of the top fairing...but, function over form
Thanks Mr. Flyer, I actually envy you being able and confident enough to ride such a large machine. I've been biking for many, many years but haven't ridden - let alone owed as many bikes as you, so If you say it's a great bike you'll get no argument from me. I don't understand why different groups sometimes distance themselves from others - We're all bikers (and road users) after all. I started on mopeds at 16 and one day the bike broke down on a rather quiet road and I was failing miserably to sort it when a group of large and hairy bikers on big and noisy bikes pulled up in their scruffy leathers and cut off denim jackets. They surrounded the bike and started "attacking" it pulling bits off and generally causing mayhem, but then they roared off and sitting in the lay-by was my little bike ticking over better than ever and ready to ride home. Since then I try not to judge on appearances :>)
Just have a go on one, they are really easy to ride
I love the gold wing I have no need for one or even want one but I think it’s a fantastic piece of engineering, if I was going to own one tho I’d get the original GL1000 from the 70s.
Fellow Fan boy! Fellow mid-50's! 2023 DCT Tour. Love Love mine! I wouldn't have purchased a pre-2018 goldwing. Love the sporty look of the new body style.
Yeah me too Robert....
5:45 That's what I like to see. Often you are very low down in the rev range and always feel you lug the engine. Good to see you stretch the legs every now and then. Don't get me wrong, love your content. Keep up the great work.
Cheers - for obvious reasons I seldom stretch bikes on camera......
I'm a video game player in addition to being a motorcycle rider (2020 CB500X) and whenever I see someone riding a Goldwing my first thought is that they've sufficiently levelled up to be able to ride one. I see it as kind of like getting a legendary item/mount in a game.
Also, whenever I come across Goldwing riders I get the impression that they're the happiest and most easy going riders out there. As the saying goes, "You meet the nicest people on a Honda"
I owned the very first Honda Goldwing GL1000 in the UK back in the early 70's, it was like riding a cloud compared to any other bike of that period, it was ground breaking, I blew the engine up after 3 months and had to trade it for another exact same new bike, people marvelled over it back then. I also own a BMW GSA now and likewise some people hate it for no other reason than they've seen other people on social media criticising it, I think it makes them feel like they know what they are talking about and makes them feel like a superior biker, I've been riding motorcycles since I was 16 back in 1972, after more than 50 years riding many different brands and styles of bikes I love all bikes, I couldn't care less for anyone else's negative opinions, I know what bikes are good for me and what I like and that's the ones I'll be riding and that's because I have a mind of my own.
Hear hear!!
Took one for a test ride at a rally on the east coast of Canada. We left from a very busy parking lot and because of the weight, I was praying I wouldn't be "that guy" who dropped it in the parking lot. I was amazed at just how easy it was to manoeuvre in tight spaces, even more impressed with the ride once out in the country. Great bike!!
Good aren't they.....
I would love a bike like yours it just won’t happen I can’t afford it sadly. I watched your Pan European review and a really nice bike is now in my grasp at a price I can afford.
Love the riding at the end.
Like yourself Andy I'm old enough to not worry what others think of my 22 tour dtc, but from one owner to another my 3 hates are
1 The stupid panniers for the size of the bike.
2 Ground clearance, I've taken mine to Portugal twice now and playing on lovely continental roads you soon scrape the pegs..
3 I find the thing so comfortable that I wish the tank was a bit bigger so I didnt need to stop every 230 or so miles. That's never been a thing on any bike I've had before, always needed a break much sooner..
As you know its a bike that just makes you smile every ride.
Agreed - I'm out on mine in a mo just for the hell of it.....
Don't know how easy or hard it is for you gents over there to order from the States, but there is a company here called Corbin which makes extended pannier doors for the Wing which are claimed to add 10 liters to the luggage capacity. They also have an extended capacity trunk lid for the 2018 through 2020 Golf Wing.
I was once stopped for the only traffic light in a small CO mountain town, when a Goldwing pulled along side in the turn lane. I casually glanced over it...then did a doubletake; The name plate on the side read: "Oldwing". It was so professionally done, that it looked like a factory original plate. LOL!
As an expat Brit in Australia I never fail to love seeing the green lanes and Chiltern lanes of my youth. Love the videos, keep them coming. Hate is a strong and easily understood word, surely dislike a much better choice.
Yes agreed but this was an exercise in clickbait…
I'm in my 50s too, however, I bought one new in 2003. I was 38 and still didn't give a $@#! about what people thought back then. I knew the bike! Here in the states many feel if it's not a Harley its a sissy bike. I rode a Harley once and thought I really didn't like the machine. No refinement, just seemed loud and a little clunky. The way you were riding at the end reminds me of the feeling I get when I'm on mine. I tend to forget how smooth and powerful it is. Nice color by the way. Enjoy!
Fantastic bike, I sat on a bagger version at the NEC in November, I thought it was great looking, very comfortable, great value, but a lot of money. I take it you won't be getting a trailer for yours Andy!!
Certainly not - nor antenna, flags or fairy lights....
Thanks for this. The only thing I hate bout it is that I don’t live on the bike 200 days/year so I don’t need one. Ignore the haters: you have the best bike on the planet for two-up touring. Thanks again.
Cheers Marc!
I had one identical to yours. 22 DCT tour in the blue. Sold it after 8000 miles and bought a Indian Chieftain Darkhorse. I love it but I stilll miss the Goldwing. Might even get another one this year. It's a great bike and the DCT takes nothing away from it as a motorcycle. The seat is a bit hard and very wide but apart from that its fantastic
Yeah they are great aren’t they - I even like the seat!
The stereotype is real here in the states. Big over weight folks on the big over weight bike pulling a trailer, some a camper, massive trikes with some of them pulling a trailer or camper. With many of them having tuned engines and still buttery smooth and quiet. I've even seen some folks pulling converted John boats behind there Wings. Imagine a miniature all aluminum Brit narrow boat.
OMG....that's defo not for me!
I'm happy for you in having found a comfortable bike. We can't all afford a wing and there is so little choice in the middle weight sector where the big sellers are all naked retros
Old 1500 wings are usually around $3,000 usd. they are always for sale in south florida usa.
@@JohnSmith-uy7sv I'd import some to the UK but the big market is for imported "classics" for some unfathomable reason
@@xtc2v So if I rent me a cargo ship, buy up all the old goldwing 1500's and ship them to the UK, I could become wealthy??? 🤣🤣
I think the end clip says it all Andy, sounds lovely the 6 cylinder lump
Doesn’t it just!
Doesn’t it just!
I agree absolutely with everything you say. I've had my DCT Goldwing Tour for 4 years now. I have done approaching 25000 miles on it so have got to know it pretty well. There are so many incorrect myths about them which, as you alluded to, are mostly spread by people who have never actually ridden one. The weight is absolutely no problem at all. I am 62 yrs old, been riding since 1978, stand 5' 6.5" tall (I sometimes claim an extra 1/2 inch at 5 "7" haha) and weigh in at 10.5 stone. I have no problems handling the bike in all circumstances including pushing it around backwards and forwards (the creep modes are very useful on slopes and rough surfaces though) and putting it on and off the centre stand. It is all down to correct technique not strength. IMO if you find the bike too heavy it isn't because it is but rather because you just ain't doing it right. Currently I have three other bikes (1976 Goldwing K1, 1979 CBX1000Z and a little CB175) and have ridden many other big bikes of numerous manufacturers, my last modern one being a Pan European. I find the new Goldwing is actually easier to manage than most of those other big bikes (exception being my two old FJ1200s) because of the centralised mass and the ergonomics suit quite small people, i.e. I am not stretching to reach anything, including the ground. Also some people talk down the DCT. I was sceptical at first and initially thought I'd made a mistake opting for it. But after riding with it for a couple of thousand miles or so and fully sussing out how to use it all to best advantage I realised just how good it really is. A brief test ride, especially on a bike with low miles and not properly bedded in, isn't enough time to familiarise with it properly and can actually create a false impression if you've never ridden with it before and don't fully appreciate how it all works. All in all I love the bike and use it for everything from popping to the shops to full on long distance riding. I can't see myself parting with it for a long time to come. One other thing to say. Since I have had it I have not had one single fault. Not even a niggle. Just had to replace the usual consumables. It was expensive for sure but I certainly do not feel I've been ripped off. IMO, considering how well each of my bikes has lived up to my hopes and expectations, this Goldwing is the best bike I've ever owned by quite some margin.
Wow - a ringing endorsement indeed!
Wow, funny how we both said technique. Steering wheel to the right and put all your weight on that arm and pull with your right arm and up my 1500 goes. It's not about strength. 🙂
Hi Andy, I love your videos mate! Keep up the good work! What's the bike like through the corners say on a twisty road being ridden spiritedly? I'm at the stage where i need a very comfy, low and easy to use bike and selling my old GS and newer R1250RS. Thanks in advance!
It’s great - but it’s not a sport bike. Clearly there’s a weight and geometry penalty to pay for in a bike of this type - I personally love the way it handles….
@@TheMissendenFlyer thank you for sharing your perspective, I’m pretty much sold on the idea. I shall watch a few more of your vids! There are no press or test bikes available in Madrid at the moment, I will try and get a test ride soon to see what it’s like. If I can’t I may have to fly back home to Blighty and get a test ride there. Cheers
Nice - I thought the #1 reason would be its not a GS....ha!!!! - Glad you enjoy and as a fellow 50's person...the heck with what others say!!!!!
Love your channel and follow along. As a long time biker and restorer I wonder how all this tech will be in fourty years. I would hate to sort out problems. Weight and size work against you with age. Trying to get a leg over some bikes is a laugh. How many indicators I have broke by kicking them. Air suspension hhmmmm. Like the old Citroën cars . Have fun take care.
Yes good point on the tech….
Hi Andy, I bought a 2023 DCT base version in January after watching endless videos and was entranced by the new shape, now I have to state that I am an absolute fan of the old style VFRs having owned 3 during the 90's and racking up countless miles, the new GW reminds me of that old shape and definitely has some of that sport-tourer DNA, but here's the rub, I found because it handles extremely well it was coaxing me into riding a bit too sporty for it's mass namely coming into roundabouts and long curves, I kept catching my boot on the floor and sometimes wasn't actually sure I was going to get the thing hauled up in time, don't get me wrong I still love the look but I could see the potential for big bills later on, the other thing I found is I couldn't actually do any maintenance on it myself, shaft drive and fixed panniers were barriers I couldn't circumvent, I liked the weekly check of tyres and chain, but removing the back wheel seemed to me mission impossible when it came to tyre change, lastly because of the riding position with feet slightly forward my backside started to ache after a few hours as I wasn't supporting my weight with my thighs, I am a divorcee now so pillions were out, so in my opinion it's a great bike....for some, I've swopped mine and I'm waiting for an NT1100 DCT, cheers.
My wife and I test rode a 2018 when they first came out, but decided to stay with our aging 2007 BMW K1200LT for a few reasons:
1. Too little luggage capacity. Simply not suitable for long distance two-up travel.
2. Too little fuel capacity compared to its peers (BMWs mainly).
3. Lousy factory navigation system.
4. Too hard seats.
Now, the seat is easily fixed and an aftermarket nav system can be fitted. Corbin addressed the storage issues and Honda has more recently addressed the top trunk and rumor is they may address the side cases soon. The fuel capacity is not so easily rectified in the aftermarket. I am still looking for an LT replacement and BMW is no long an option for a number of reasons, but key being the nearest dealer is now 140 miles away after the closure of the one I bought my LT from and BMW has dropped service manuals for owners so doing one’s own maintenance and repair on new models will be difficult.
I am hopeful Honda will address the side case capacity per the rumor and I hope they will address the fuel capacity and add at least a gallon and they really should match the 1600 BMWs. I haven’t heard as many complaints recently about the nav system so maybe they have addressed that sufficiently with software updates.
The luggage capacity improved on the 2020 model - still not great though….
Good ride at the end. I agree that it's so misunderstood. Put it in sport and as you said in the video.......whooohooo
Yes sport mode transforms this lazy rider into a beast!
just purchased a 2023 dct tour. been on bikes for over 45 years. it is only heavy sitting still under way theres no way it feel like 850lbs. most think because its big its slow not so bruttaly fast bike.the only haters are those who havent been on one
Great 'vid' really pleased you didn't "slag' the Goldwing off, even though I'm a K1600 GT owner myself I still think the Goldwing is an awesome bike and I'm truly tempted to buy one , my only reservation is how will I get on with the DCT (I really should test ride a DCT version) As for those bikers who think its to big and isn't really a motorcycle, I'm with you 100% 'who cares what they think ' all that matters is you like it and it puts a smile on your face every time you ride it.
It certainly does - every rise is an ocassion on the 'Wing - and you should try the DCT, you may be surprised!
I whole heartedly agree with your comment that some people won't buy a certain motorcycle or other thing or do something in life because they fear what others will think. The right attitude is who cares, do what makes you happy (as long as you can afford it) and as Teapot One often says '"Live your life", for you and not to satisfy or seek the approval of others. Nicely done TMF, I'd have a Wing in a heartbeat. Cheers.
Thank you Colin - appreciate the kind remarks (and of course agree with them!)....
Top notch .thanks
All I can say is that my Goldwing DCT 2022 IS AWESOME!!! PAID IN FULL!!! I LOVE IT!!!
Great little vid Andy i am in my 60+ so even more so don’t care what people think life is to short any bike that put a 😀on your face is good 👍
100% agree!
Owned a 2010 model gl, but because of old age have gone to a 2022 triumph T120, my goodness me I miss that Goldwing when the weather turns cold.
Should have added that I live down under where distances between destinations are vast.
Nice video, Andy, as ever! 👍🏼
Glad you enjoyed it!
Loving the end of the video. Pure asmr riding.
Thanks for watching until the end!
Lovely machine andy enjoy it 👍🏻
As a fan of all sorts of types (motorcycles) , Goldwing ? The cockpit looks very space age 🚀 beautiful bike , and it has a flat 6!👌🏻😎
What's not to like!
Best large motorcycle engine ever produced, period. Faster than most tourers other than the bmw or a 50K HD CVO. I’m about to pick up a 23 manual transmission tourer this weekend, this will be my fourth wing and 27 th overall bike. I’m very excited to get reacquainted. Sold the last one due to dislike of the DCT, it’s just not for me. Very happy they still make a manual.
I’m very close to buy one... your video is probably the last trigger to go for it 😉
Good choice!
I love the early gold wing, a naked really and only a 4 cylinder but still a big motorcycle
Yes the original unfaired Gold Wing was a beast!
I’ve never ridden a Goldwing, but I think it and the CRF are about the only two Honda’s I’d ever consider buying. The rest just seem a bit, well dull to me. I must get on a Goldwing at some stage.
I'm a convert to the gen6 Goldwing Tour this season... I don't believe I fit any stereotypical "Goldwing rider" mold and I'm blown away by the bike. I've been riding all my life and never have I rode a bike like the Wing. Its damn near perfect for the type of riding I do.. Which is fast pace touring, 2up(mostly) sticking to the back, secondary and country roads, with the occasional highway run if I have to make time. I have to admit(and get used to) the fact that a Goldwing is pretty vanilla. It doesn't have the cool factor or rawness of my previous Victory XC, but the Wing does everything better and in more comfort. So since I'm riding it and not showing it off....I really don't care 😉
I’ve always like them. And yes I would struggle to afford one but if you can well done - you’ve probably worked hard enough to buy one.
Thank you for recognising that - much appreciated....
I love this video! Ha - thank you for this video!
Glad you enjoyed it!