REVIEW - Asetek Invicta Hydraulic Sim Racing Pedals
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- A few months ago now we took a look at the prototype version of the Asetek Simsports Invicta pedals and were very impressed with them. Now it's time to take a look at the full retail version!
Asetek have been a major player in the tech scene for almost 20 years, supplying many OEMs with their AIO cooling hardware. With a rich heritage in motorsports, they enter the sim racing scene with huge plans for a complete turn-key ecosystem, as well as a large-scale manufacturing capacity. Their first product? The Invicta Hydraulic Sim Racing Pedals.
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this has to be one of the most underrated youtubers channel ive ever seen this guy making a 1:30 minutes explaining it all, using it all and showing us everything i love this channel big fan keep it up
What I really like on this channel - is Will who constantly smiles :) Truly happy man, he just likes the pedals.
Thanks for transparency and integrity of your review videos. It is nice to see unbiased youtuber who gives geniune opinions and shows advantages and flaws of a product. Hope you're doing well!
Bravo to the Asetek team on delivering a solid launch product, and props to another quality review and detailed look at the gear Will! Happy with my HE Sprints, especially as I’m a sock racer, but as their ecosystem fills out here I’ll have to keep eyes on the range
Excellent and thorough review as always. Thanks!
Thanks for making so clear your policy and keeping it like that! 👍
Appreciate the transparent review policy on both ends.
Wow Will. You are so reliable and "on point" and it is noted and appreciated. I was waiting for this review and here it is on Feb 14th as promised. I am currently constructing a new 55" OLED triple screen rig (fingers crossed on the display port adapters to the 3090 lol) and it is loaded mostly with all goodies that you have reviewed. All of your content has been so invaluable and so pertinent (not to mention enjoyable and polished). I cannot believe how I continue to google search for very specific information and always seem to find myself back at Boosted Media for the reliable rundown. Just want to say thank you!
Thanks John!
Because I'm interested in this setup as well: what adapters are you planning to use with those triple oleds?
@@MaxJacuzziPlanning to use the Display Port to HDMI adapters claiming to be 4k@120/8k@60 to try to find the highest possible fps that the LG OLEDs can put out which is 4k@120, there are a few brands that claim this performance (Uptab, Cable Matters, Club 3D) but sounds like Cable Matters is a no go based on my internet research, I imagine this is going to take some potential experimenting with different brands, I am presently waiting on some PC parts for the PC build which is holding me up here, you can check out Karl Gosling on his TH-cam channel where he was able to get up and running with the LG OLED triples but I believe he is mainly running in 1440p most of the time, hoping I can get further as in beyond 60 fps while running 4k like Will has been able to achieve but he use OMEN monitors with Display Ports built in (cheater lol), hoping this Display Port to HDMI is not the weakest link but it may be, figuring worst case I run 1440p (or 4k@60 if I like it looks smooth enough) and maybe down the line better Display Port adapters become available, I am pretty confident it will still be big fun and eye candy at 1440p
@@Cam-cording thank you for your really helpful response. The disadvantage with current DP to HDMI adapters for me is the lack of VRR/G-Sync. While 1440p@60 fixed shouldn't be a problem (but you always got the feeling that there could be more :D), 1440p@120 could be a problem (ACC night/rain) and even with a 3090 4k@60 won't work in every scenario IMO (I'm running a 3080, so 4k@60 won't work with all games, no chance with AMS2 and rain for example). I got a 3080 AORUS with 3 VRR-capable HDMI-ports, but because one port ist HDMI 2.0 I'm capped at 4k@60 and even 1440p@120 works only with 4:2:0 chroma subsampling (at least for me, don't know why).
So in result my dilemma is: VRR with limitations due to HDMI 2.0 or Adapters with "full bandwith" (4k120 RGB or 4:4:4) but without VRR. Hoping like you for a) better Adapters or b) for Nvidia 4XXX-Series with 3 HDMI 2.1 ports :D
I second that John, Boosted has helped me in my Sim Racing journey. I just set up 3 x 55 LG C1s on a high-end PC and have everything running at 4k. Took some time, but happy to share my experiences. I am also torn between these pedals or the Ultimate+
Great review as always. Very informative.
Amazing review as always!
hi will, totally new to considering sim racing and this showcased the Asetek really well & your comment on not needing "15" different software pkgs makes so much sense and the graphical dial in for TBC looks exactly something I cud do easily not nav'g thru menus etc. The aesthetics of this sim component and the thought Asetek team put in sold me on Asetek and hopefully the next components they produce will match the same level, well done
What a great review. Thanks.
Great review Will! Day 1 purchase for me.
A very good and professional review👍😊
With granitedevices intellectual property, this company is the future
We will do our best to not disappoint :)
Your reviews are unmatched bro, pedals look great as well!
Thanks brother!
Such a great looking set, the design team really nailed it.
Hi Juan,
Really appreciate it. Stay tuned for the next products, they look quite good as well ;)
/Dennis
/Asetek SimSports
Hi Will, Great to see Asetek have made a good effort with eco friendly packaging. As you know I’m a big advocate of good packaging here at Pineapple Grips . I wish companies like Fanatec did more in this area tbh. Asetek could go one tiny step further and replace all those nasty self seal bags with biodegradeable (compostable) ones 😁…Great looking product
The pre-orders they're going to get after this, I think they owe you a custom made ARGB pedal plate with your branding on it! I was planning HE pedals as my next upgrade, but these just look so good, thanks for a great in-depth review.
Ohh ARGB pedal plates with Boosted Media branding... You have just earned my attention ;)
/Dennis
/Asetek SimSports
You always make the best in-depth reviews! Is there any other throttle+break set I should be looking at similar price range? I'd love to hear some recommendations so I can research all the options.
TOP SHELF REVIEW! 🙂👍
not even a happy valentines :-) great video!
Hey Will, just a question in your opinion would it be easier to mount these pedals to the tr160 pedal plate or just remove the pedal plate completely and install some profile and mount the pedal plate directly to the profile? Cheers for the review, quality work as per usual.
As soon as they become console support I am buying these
I do the same thing with the throttle, my heel stays planted and the bottom of my foot slides on the pedal plate as I depress it, to make it perfectly smooth, I bought some 1/16th inch thick PTFE sheet and cut a piece th same shape as the pedal plate and double side taped it on the plate so my racing shoe sole slides on it very smoothly, makes throttle modulation super accurate!
This couldn't come at a better time. I'm currently using CSL Elite LC's, and me being idealistic I'd love a high end pedalset. I've been looking at the HE Sprints and Ultimate+', the price point doesn't fit me so well though, but these sit right inbetween them. I might give them a go, though as a Dutchie my heart says Heusinkveld :P
Good review Will, being a sock racer I'm concerned about the initial pedal faces, and the extended wait and extra delivery costs of the shipping when the sock friendly pedal plates are available. The main question I want to know is when will you test the Sim Magic pedals and a bit of a comparison to the Asetek seeing that they are about the same price. Cheers. Keep up the good work
Will will not be reviewing Simagic gear until they change their review policy. Simagic demand to see the reviews before they are published. Boosted Media cannot agree to this, as it goes against their clear and transparent review policy.
Hey Will, is the rig the F GT Elite? I noticed on the driving test segment a bit of flex in the pedal plate. I'm assuming the P1 X wouldn't do this? Revisiting the footage, perhaps it's the motion rig at play here dipping under braking.
Top review as usual from you :)
Is there a possibility to create profiles for the pedal maps for different vehicles?
We will be adding that in a future update to RaceHub.
/Dennis
/Asetek SimSports
@@dennishampe4465 Thanks Dennis :)
@@maas7740 my pleasure :)
I am currently running Fanatec dd1, with V3 pedals which I'm looking to upgrade. Totally torn between these and the sim magic P2000, or those beefy pneumatic SRP pedals you reviewed. so torn. Only need 2 pedal sets as I used the paddle shifters on what I play currently. Any food for thought would be much appreciated. Love the vids as always
From what I learned from Asetek's Invicta video, the rubber compression before mechanical bump stop is to simulate brake pad to disk take up.
Therefore, this part of travel (squishing rubber to mechanical bump stop) wouldn't give you any stopping power in real life.
When calibrating, do I need to calibrate this part of travel out?
Because from your video, when you calibrate your brake pedal, 80% of your braking pressure barely pass the mechanical bump stop.
Which in real life shouldn't give you any stopping power.
DUDE YES. that's the exact same thing going through my head. If the travel is Sim RE; pad to rotor then it should be 0 value in pressure.
ALL reviews I've seen of this have either explained it ass backwards or have been briefed Hella incorrectly. It's so confusing that it shouldn't be.
The calibration is pretty subjective but what feels right to me is to be hitting 80% (the general amount of braking pressure you want to be applying when you hit the brakes at the end of a straight in most cars). This can be calibrated to whatever force feels comfortable to you but the mechanical threshold between the elastomer and hard stop provides a very consistent way to feel this, thus hitting it accurately every time.
You can then modulate your braking around this threshold point as required. If you watch VRS track guides, etc, you’ll see they don’t always brake to the same force for every corner. It depends greatly on the balance and speed of the car.
As for the uptake, I have a little bit of slack in the pedal before the elastomer is engaged which I use to simulate this. If you watch my first look video you’ll see the cold brake squeal happens exactly where the pedal starts to engage with the elastomer which is the way it should be as that’s what happens in real life.
With my calibration the elastomer accounts for 0% to 80%, then the 2nd hard stage accounts for 80-100%.
@Boosted Media thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I see where you're coming from. With your calibration being set as you mentioned. 0 to 80 on travel and 80 to 100 on pressure, this sounds great for Sim racing but then has no correlation to real race car brakes. The video Dave Cameron did on Dave cam has his calibrated the same way, which in terms of reality has to be the incorrect calibration. Asetek themselves mentioned the travel is to simulate the travel of pad to rotor therefore bearing a 0 value. In my opinion. Karl described it best and if you time stamp his video. From 17:05 to 22:45 I think he mentioned it THE BEST. I guess the real question posed is, do you want realism or do you want to be fast in the Sim, there's a fundamental disconnect between the two at the moment. In real racing. You cannot escape the travel of pad to rotor. In Sim racing if you simulate it properly, you're losing time that others aren't. Stuck between rock and a hard place.
The way Karl described it is incorrect. That is not how the pedals are meant to be calibrated. You can loosen the retainer off to create a dead zone where you only feel the resistance provided by the retainer spring and hydraulic fluid, which would essentially make it a 3 stage system. This is optional.
The elastomer is not meant to simulate pedal uptake. It’s meant to simulate the first braking stage to the threshold point.
@Boosted Media thank you again for the response, it really helps and you're the best mate!!
Although now I will admit, I am MORE confused than ever. Feels like right back to square one 🙃🙃🙃🙃
Great video but I'm wondering if I have a fanatec DD2 setup, can I connect the pedals with the base so I can use with the PS5?
What pedals are the best you have tested in terms of realistic feel? And do you think VRS is a good option? I got the HE Sprints and want an upgrade in terms of feel :) greetings from Sweden
That's a pretty innovative design, a bit different from what we usually see from other companies. I'm not too sure how I feel about that split-type design of the pedal plate tho, it kinda messes with my OCD :-) Great job with the review as always buddy.
wow your pedal support frame flexes a lot! Compared to the Moza CRP pedals, are these better??
It’s really disappointing to see how wrong most of the other reviewers have been with their explanations of the brake on these pedals to the point of being misleading in some cases.
Thanks for the hard work you do. It’s greatly appreciated.
Hi.
Have you tested SRP and Invicta, which one is better, which one will provide better performance?
They seem to me to be very similar solutions.
Hi Will, and as always, top quality review! As I interpret your review, it's a hard pedal, but how hard is it? Is it so much that you get sore knees and legs from driving with it, or can you find a compromise without amidst the obvious advantage these paddles have in their 2-stage hard-stop system?
Hi Anders,
It has a travel of roughly 2cm at the brake pedal. The firmness can be adjusted with the elastomers, typically between 35 kilos and 120 kilos of force :)
/Dennis
/Asetek SimSports
@@dennishampe4465 thanks for your answer. I am familiar with these differently elastomers, but is not the basic principle with these new pedals that during hard braking, you press the brake all the way to the hard end stop and modulate the brake pressure around there? If it is properly assumed, the elastomer no longer matters and the paddle will be rock hard there, right!?
In other words, is the point with these new pedals to brake in the "soft" area, or to push the brake all the way down the hard end stop, and then modulate it around there?
(under hard breaking of course)
Thanks in advance:)
BR Anders
@@Adamdagoat233 the point is it is a two stage system. Initial breaking Force is applied during the soft stage, the hard stage is maximum braking, then moving back into the soft for precise control of trailbraking :)
Hey Will have a question, is it easy to make these pedals GT style or should I go with a different set of pedals
Do you think they'll make these pedals with different option coloured knobs/ screws.
As in every one of the orange coloured parts on this pedal set, be available in bright green, red, blue etc? Green would be awesome!
Wow V4 from Fanatec should copy the Brake swap. Hats off!!! That’s fast
Hi, I should replace the pedal board now I have a DC, I have seen the reviews of the asetek invicta and the srp gt, I'm undecided which one to take, advice? Thanks
is it possible to see a review for Conpit cpp hydraulic pedals? even better if there is a comparison :)
What do you use for telemetry and can I overlay it to show while in the game so I can see what I am doing?
My Aseteks just developed a leak after 2 days of use. I've reached out to Asetek and will see how their after-sales support will be.
Definitely keep us posted!
@@boostedmedia Asetek contacted me and are express shipping a replacement set with a return label for the faulty unit.
Great.
Thanks for the video! Do i need a hard carbon fiber bucket seat in order to apply the force/power to the brake pedal in the best possible way? I have a VW Golf V seat on my rig which has a more or less soft cushion. I ask myself if my seat is no go with this kind of pedal system.
No I’m using an FRP seat and it’s fine.
I have these pedals and with the medium elastomer at 38 bar I noticed that I don't reach the second stage. I can only hit the second stage using the soft elastomer at about 55 bar and my foot gets a little sore after a while.
are this pedals for me when pressing only about max 35 bar or below?
Just got CSPV3 mid 2021 and I'm kind of dissapointed, most of all in the squishy brake. So ever since Asetek popped up i'm just that close to swapping again :D
Which pedals are better in your opinion? this or the Ultimate +? I have 6 days to decide!!
Will. Have you managed to replicate the stiffness and feel of these pedals in other high-end pedal sets? Or does the Asetek design make them unique in your experience?
That is the million dollar question. BUT, the huge advantage to this proprietary brake set up I see anyway, is that it is a closed system that uses non carcinogenic fluid, and no chance for the bumpers to blow out over time and no fluid to leak and cause issues.
This was discussed in the conclusions about n this video and the prototype discussion :)
Can replicate the stiffness but haven’t tested anything that gives the same authentic feel.
You are probably very busy, but if you have time can you try to review the pedals Venym.
Question is the hydraulic part a little loose on yours the set I had was loose
How do these compare to the simtrecs and vrs pedals?
G'day movers and shakers..
Glad you said about the MX5 cup car shifting. At times I absolutely luv to blip drop clutch mid apexi-sh tucking in the nose and rotating tighter than others. Am I alone there ?
Certainly not. I’ve always thought that was one of the most satisfying cars to drive too for the same reason.
Oh cool mate, checkout the last TH-cam vid of my replica MX5 AiM mxl2 data logger I created for everyone on simdashboard.
What wheel are you using on this video?
How reliable are these though? Will they survive heavy usage for 10 years+? I wonder what we can do if the THORP system fails outside of warranty.
Excellent review - really covered everything in great detail. A question for you: I've pre-ordered the throttle & brake but not the clutch because I've never found the clutch feel on other pedals to be very realistic. Do you feel this clutch is good enough or enough of an improvement to give a meaningful sensation worthy of ordering it?
Honestly I’m impartial to clutches. There’s nothing particularly remarkable about this one. It has a good range of adjustment including 2-stage and is smooth. Beyond that, take it or leave it depending on your needs.
Hi mate how do you rate these to the heusinkvelds?
I have the sprints. And i max out on the brake so easy on highest settings because i use a really stif setup on the brake. Is this asetek pedal really more heavy duty ? I think is easely push 140kg with some slack i’m a big guy😅 1m87 tall and not skinny.
i’m searcing pedals that easly doubles the 65kg of the sprints. And have slack. I dont use clutch. Looks like these are the winners but i doubt between these and the he ultimates +. The price is really in play for me. I just want to know if these aseteks are up for my natural force.
Hi Will,
I can’t decide which pedals to go with between the Asetek, HE Sprints or VRS pedals. Mostly run ACC on PC.
Appreciate any recommendations/feedback before I purchase.
Cheers.
I’ll be reviewing sprints soon. They arrived last week. Haven’t tried VRS.
Thank you for the reply, look forward to your Sprint review..
It’s the last piece of my sim puzzle I can’t decide on..
Tremendous job, Will. I've always loved your reviews. Second to none.
Can I PM you my address so you can send me those beautiful prototypes now that you no longer need them ;P ?
I am disappointed there was not more shown or given regarding mounting these. After looking at the schematics on their website, their mounting holes do not seem to line up with any others on the market so that means drilling for those not using aluminum profile. I think this is a miss on Asetek's part IMO.
@bomarfield Interesting take. But it does appear that they have captured lightning in a bottle with their new hydraulic brake design
Mounting was discussed in more detail in our first look video.
Hi Will. Great review. But after watching other reviews and reading their comments I'm confused about the rubber bump stops. It appears that they are only limited to the Aussie market. If so it seems strange that Asetek would do this. Do you know if this is true?
No they’re on all of them. Just nobody else mentioned them as far as I’ve seen.
There has been some confusion about rubber bump stops ;)
We implemented one on the one side, based on Will's feedback.
Others have then complained about the pedal stop, being metallic. We are looking at a way to fix this. But so far we haven't been able to find something that meets our quality and reliability standards. But we are hard at work!
/Dennis
/Asetek SimSports
@@dennishampe4465 Thanks. That clears the confusion up for me.
@@jonathanowen8389 my pleasure. Always feel free to get in touch. Happy to help the community :)
So, for a guy that sim races fairly seriously, and uses sim to learn new tracks, but also races and tracks in real life in a combination of full pedal box gt3/gt4 cars as well as race cars with typical OEM style pedals, do you suggest Invicta or Ultimate+, or something else?
Bit late,but with the two pedals you suggested you’d be fine either way you went,essentially with invicta vs ultimate+ it’s the extra texture and stiffness of the invictas vs the adjustability of the ultimate+
Will, I just received my invictas today. I haven’t watched your entire review minute for minute as my little ones are always running all over the place lol. Have you noticed movement in the hydraulic cylinder. Mine has quite a bit of play and I’m wonder if this is normal. Please advise! Thanks as always.
Movement as in from side to side? It’s normal to be able to rotate it a bit, but it shouldn’t move forward to back at all.
@@boostedmedia yes side to side. The amount of movement is pretty significant though. Doesn’t effect performance but it was very noticeable as soon as I took it out of the box. I’m going to shoot you a message on messenger if you want to have a look just for comparison to the ones you’ve used.
@@boostedmedia pm sent via Facebook messenger if you have a moment
Pedals look quality, and they may have a point with brake setup, but look at pedal cam videos from real race cars. They have travel. Pedals travel is a function of bore and stroke size of the brake cylinder. It feels like there is a fair bit of marketing spin at play.
I agree. With all the on-boards of various race car pedal cam views I've watched over the years show brake pedals with a certain length of travel while being pressed which is determined by car, setup and driver strength. The RL ones aren't really like the "dead stop" that these asetek pedals have but it's all down to a sim drivers preference I guess.
One thing I noticed is you do have some flex in your pedal tray. It may be something for people to be aware of. Because the pedal is so stiff, you will need a very strong pedal tray. The design looks very robust so you will need to make sure what you mount them to is also as robust.
You absolutely need a robust pedal tray (otherwise the tray itself will flex) or aluminum profiles.
Having tried these on a few rigs (among others the Rennsport cockpit) I can say, that in some cases you need to reinforce the thin pedal trays :)
But that is just how it works with 100+ kilos of force ;)
/Dennis
/Asetek SimSports
Are there any games like iRacing and ACC that make/force you to have a clutch or can I go with just the brake and throttle option only? I could use the cash to buy a better sequential shifter then.
ACC doesn't force you to have a clutch as far as i know :D
RBR. DR2.0. rF2. AMS2. Basically any sim which has more than boring modern GT3 and similar crap. It is not "forcing" you but using proper setup gets you to the waters of immersion and fun.
How do these hook up to the computer? Are they connected to the PC via USB? Or are they connected to a wheelbase? I'd love to use these with my CSL DD.
I would like to know the same thing? Great review.
They connect directly via USB. This was shown in the review.
There engineers didn't think to just make a divot where that bolt hits when you press the pedals and then fill it with hard rubber? Simple solution that would work perfectly and not add a dead zone.
I just got these pedals and I have a problem. When I start Racehub it says Pedals detected in update mode and when I accept the update it just asks again and it keeps looping all the time. I cannot select the pedals in Racehub.
Have you contacted their support team? Sounds like it’s stuck in DFU mode.
I’m about to get mine in next week. I’m excited but I do wonder why sim racing roductz are all lying to us? Gt3 and other race cars actually have long brake pedal travel, outside of f1 anyway. Go watch pedal cans of gt3, rally, and even lmp2 is actually longer than gt3
I see clutch not flat on the table ? Is there a problem with connection or ?
The units are die-cast. And as such they are not always completely flat. However, this equals out once you mount them to a rig. Also if you tighten the clutch too tightly to the brake and throttle, it may actually cause the to units to not be level :)
/Dennis
/Asetek SimSports
Are these compatible with all wheels? Also, are they for console use or PC only?
They connect via USB so will work with any other hardware. PC only for now.
PC only? That is not really clever of them!
maybe a magnetic USB-C connector would be even better? that way it just quick disconnects instead of actually putting all the pressure on the connector. they could also put it facing the back that way if they wanted. maybe it could just be an add on instead of replacing the actual connectors on the cable/board.
Definitely a possibility
Well on a motion rig the magnet has to be strong. Maybe creating issues with the electronics?
That's definitely noted. We are also looking into upgrading the plastic cover :)
/Dennis
/Asetek SimSports
@@dennishampe4465 awesome! cant wait to see the final product. love that you guys are continuously looking for feedback, shows you really are wanting to do the best you can with your products.
@@kspec2001 we really do want to make amazing products. And trust me when I say, this is only the beginning :)
vs Heusinkveld ultimate + ???
👍
I have $ 3,000 to invest in the best pedals? what do you recommend ?
Do you find having a stiffer brake pedals gives you any joint or muscle pain for extended use?
answer is yes, for me anyway, one solution is to move brake pedal even with left leg, assuming you left leg brake, but these do not offer the ability to mount the pedals independently so something to consider
that is the reason I like pedals that are separate of each other, Meca's, VRS, Heusinkveld, etc. Just helps get them more comfortable.
@@aaronb486 Yup, I am still leaning towards Simtrecs for this reason and that's what is frustrating with pedals, there is not one out there regardless of money that checks all the boxes for me at this point in time
@@chuckystang have you looked at the Simgrade R7 pedals? Looks like you can do anything you want with those. lol
In R/C the exponential curves are plus/minus
It is a pity that, although they look really great, it still says pre order, pay now, get them sometime later, with no date.
Why wouldn't you mention the laptime in the end there?
As I said in the video, we went over lap time comparisons in the prototype video. No point for this one as I’d already been running the pedals for months so naturally faster than with other pedals.
id wish they got rid of the rusty orange and the massive crack between the clutch and the other pedals. That just looks wrong, and I could imagine it being annoying as well. I could also do without the rgb, not many 15 year old gamers are getting them anyway. Otherwise I think they look pretty good. But the brake, them being a danish company and the intro price is the only reasons im considering them over the simagic´s, which I like the looks of a whole lot more. The adjustment on the asetek´s looks like great design though.
How do they compare to Racewerk?
We had 4 sets of Racewerk hydraulics fail within a few weeks. I believe the design has since been revised and we were meant to receive a set to test but this far it hasn’t happened.
These or VRS Direct Force pedals? HELP! :D
I have the same question. Preordered vrs, but thinking about cancelling and ordering these.. But cant decide yet.
Same question, I have pre orders for both. I was hoping to get a definitive answer by watching all the reviews, but I still struggle to decide. I think I will let it come down to price, as the Asetek are 150 more than the VRS. Have to settle somewhere.
I’m in queue for VRS but after watching this I’ve ordered the Asetek and will cancel VRS. Nothing wrong with VRS but these just speak to me better.
Going VRS myself, not saying these aren't great, but not having the ability to move the brake farther away from the gas bothers me. I am sure it's fine but I don't know why they would connect them like that.
@@aaronb486 as I understand, you can move the pedal faces apart without having any adverse effects, so that’s pretty much sealed the deal for me but I was conscious of the same thing when I first saw these.
Have you seen Dave Cam's vid where he noticed his brake and accelerator overlapping in telemetry. Just wondered if you could try and see if you get similar results.
not even sure why that was seen as a problem, often times brake and gas are used in conjunction in real life racing...
I haven’t seen Dave’s video yet but my brake and throttle inputs overlap too and have done on every pedal set ive ever used. It’s a driving habit. Has nothing to do with the pedals.
Look at the telemetry overlay in any of my racing videos from the last 3 years.
@@boostedmedia I didn't think is was the pedals just thought it was an interesting observation. He was doing as good times right foot braking which meant he wasn't overlapping
By the way awesome review as usual
Has nothing to do with the pedals lol 😆 you need to go rewatch Dave's video cause you missed the point by a mile buddy
I've just bought these pedals. I use socks, no issue.
Percentage of price increase said in this review is incorrect.
They have based the price difference against new final price.
When working out percentage of increase it should be done off initial price.
Example, accelerator and brake is a $150 USD increase over base price of $699 USD, therefore approximately 21.46%
The clutch is $50 USD increase over base price of $299 USD, so approximately 16.72%.
Sorry will love your videos but these need to be avoided after having mine for a little over a month I've had no problems with the pedals themselves there great but the software has left me up shit creek I couldn't download it originally with winrar as recommended as it wanted to charge me upfront for software I used WinZip which after the free trial period wants 30 quid a year just so I can use these pedals not cool and since I tried to update my original asetek software has stopped working so now I'm left with a completely useless expensive doorstep I have contacted asetek but I doubt I'll have much luck as I'm guessing it will take far more than an overnight fix for them to fix their software that's designed to force people to pay for extra software rather than have something like fanatec or thrustmaster that just actually works out the box do you know of similar issues or if asetek is working on a solution for this thanks for your content and your time love this channel
There are many free archiving programs. Try 7-zip. I’ve never in my life paid for Winzip.
@@boostedmedia thanks for getting me sorted out absolute gentleman 👍👍👍
All working now?
@@boostedmedia all good now perfect thanks
@@designamk1160 😅
$1300 AUD for the throttle and brake, seems fine, $550 AUD for the clutch???? I literally had the throttle and brake in the basket ready to order, then went to add the clutch and borked at it. My guess would have been $200-300 extra to get the 3 pedals over 2.
Hate that plate with the branding and nonsense lines. Hope they add an option to remove it cause that’s stopping me from buying them. I’m a barefoot driver
One of the coolest things about the mx5 was that you'd have to drive it with a clutch. With a sequential its almost as boring as a gt3 car. Bye sweet mx5 racing.
I‘m really looking to receive mines and compare them the HE Ultimate that i currently have. However i see they cut corners on some design elements which are kind of disappointing to me but it does shows that its designed to costs with the Brake being the star of the show.
- very basic throttle (i hope they are as precise as the HE)
- plastic pcb cover really! what about EMI??
- wiered baseplate design
- too much assetek logos everywhere ;)
- i wished we could have other colors for the anodized knobs! At least aftermarket options to make mo 💰 would be fine by me.
- hell rgb fans need to be able to enter a color code to match their system not just a slider.
Hey mate,
Would like to address some of your concerns :)
-Throttle: We're more than happy to listen to any feedback from the community on the throttle. However, we believe it's pretty darn good in it's current state ;)
-Plastic PCB: EMI isn't an issue, because the PCB was design to be used in this environment. Not unlike other PC components :) The plastic also allows you to see the status diode through it ;-)
-Logos: That's down to personal preference, I suppose ;)
-Knobs: Aftermarket options ARE coming.
-RGB: We built in ARGB for a reason. There will be system wide functionality added in a future update. We're currently working on implementation with systems from Razer, MSI, Asus etc. :)
/Dennis
/Asetek SimSports
@@dennishampe4465 👍 i was pretty much expecting it down the road. thx for the confirmation. One thing that Ron mentioned in his review it would be great to add 2 screw caps for the throttle and clutch . It costs nothing and really effectively damper the noise.
@@fan2hd277 and we are absolutely looking at a good and reliable way to do this :)
Asetek > simtag ?
I think asetek is better value. Lower maintenance too. But Simtag has more adjustability. So it boils down to what you’re looking for.
You cant run these inverted with them on a fixed plate thats the only big downside
I absolutely hate Invicta pedals lol I just do not enjoy the brake. I'm sry to each there own!
thats a completly miss understanding what the software need to have... dont need led, dont need to see pedals pictures move, dont need curved lines... BUT NEED OPTION TO SAVE CALIBRATION FOR EACH CAR....unbelivable. Another thing... they will not be compatibile for simucube true drive software. That decision will reject many simucube owners to buy it... including me, who sees first hand the benefits of one software for the whole hardware. To bad decision for Asatek director
the first stage simulates the way of the brake pads to the disc, so why is there already 70% brake force until you reach the hard stage?! If you want realism, this must configures as deadzone, which is stupid and is in contrast to the marketing speak from Asetek…. Dont see a real benefit from two stages…
No that is incorrect. The way we have calibrated them on this video and our first drive video is the correct way. The first stage should be calibrated to the desired threshold point. Not the pad uptake point. Uptake can be simulated by releasing the preload slightly as we demonstrated.
I would recommend watching our video on why the two-stage system makes a difference. It is on our channel, called "Benefits of a Hard and Short Brake...".
But obviously it is always down to personal conviction if you believe there to be a difference or not. We've made a break that feels and works like what you would find in a race car. That's been the goal all along :)
Best,
Dennis
Asetek SimSports
I buy 1 set of this pedal, but sim magic still better. the packaging is good but the quality base in user experience is not that satisfy.