Asetek Simsports Invicta vs Simagic P2000 | Head to Head comparison
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The P2000s have new pivot nuts on newer units, so it will no longer have the lateral movements that was mentioned.
ah thats great news, havent heard that yet. nice to see how they keep improving their quality and products.
If that's the case, it would be nice for Simagic to send previous owners of the pedals the new hardware they switched to if they are having movement like Laurence showed.
Confirmed, I just received, and no wobble left to right like in the video 👍
That would be a bad business model, to upgrade people for free. It’s not a big issue but nice to see it was solved anyway :) glad to see they’re addressing issues like this. I did raise it on my first impressions video a few weeks back too…
@@IvebenKruzen As laurance said, thats very uneconomical, but Id be curious if the distributers have those parts in stock to either sell or give out on request for their customers.
Got a set of the P2000 pedals and I'm really happy with my purchase.
Nice one!
I love your channel. I recently stumbled across a bunch of your reviews as I'm building my first rig. Great stuff and I love your accent.
Haha thanks so much ❤️ welcome along. Enjoy building your first rig!
I can confirm the new pivot nuts stop the left-right play. I have enjoyed the pedals a lot over the past three weeks and haven’t had any issues at all. Hope they can get QC under control if there are problems for others.
awesome! yeah there are lots of reports of this issue being fixed which is great to hear :)
I love the way you review products. It’s great that you always make it very clear how subjective opinions can be and that one persons perspective will not necessarily mirror that of others. It’s so nice to get subjective opinions presented as such and not as objective fact.
thanks! it's a difficult balance and it's tough putting yourself out there in such a vulnerable way but the consumer wins out at the end of the day
Great video, comes across as open and honest and actually reaches some definitive conclusions! Very good, thanks.
Thanks for the great comment. Yeah it's difficult to do these comparisons especially when the products are both very good. I appreciate your comment a lot
Amazing review brother. Sub well earned. You tell the truth and make us aware where others don't.
Keep it up mate.
First! Thank you for comparing these!!
Keep up the great content
You’re very welcome :) thanks for watching!
Thanks for the review Laurence. The big plus for me is that the brake feel has been highly praised on the Asetek Invicta units even though they have a very short throw. They have also been tested to a million cycles, so like anything made in Europe, that means a lot to me even though it's more expensive. Generally anything out of China does not have that sort R&D behind it. Just ordered my Invicta 2 pedal unit while prices are somewhat cheaper at $699 because I no longer use the clutch on my current setup anyway.
Yeah it was important for me to mention they in the video. You can make the Simagic pedals feel very similar so there’s not a big performance divide but if you want to invest in quality, the aseteks seem like a good bet ;)
Another first class review Laurence
Thanks! The full reviews are yet to come, this is just a small urgent video that the community has been looking for. Glad you enjoyed it ❤️ thanks for the comment
Very nice comparison video. After seeing all your points and opinions, I'm still very happy and confident with my Asetek pre-order. I do hope they bring out those new pedal plates soon, so I have the option to order them immediately if I also dislike the rough pedal faces. But I'm buzzing to upgrade from TLCM'S to the Invincta's, it is going to be iiiiiinsaaaannneeee 🤘
It is a great time for sim racers, when we have the luxury to choose between so many higher-end and competitively close hardware 😁
Yeah you’re going to love the upgrade! I can’t wait to hear your opinion on them!
I thought you bought a set of OBP's?
@@Fredrik-Myhrvold That is a loooooooooong story why eventually, I didn't 😅
HI bud, excellent as always....
10 outta 10 for the cat!
"Go Away Cat"
hahahahah I had to leave that bit in there :p
your video's persuaded me to replace my V3's with the P2000's and i couldn't be happier. love your video's! EDIT the pedal slop has been fixed
Nice one! Glad I could help!
Great little comparison showing each of their strenghts and weaknesses and nice that you managed to get it out before the price increase. They both look very promising and think both will have their own userbase. If I had the spare money to upgrade from my sprints currently, Id probably also pick the p2000s, especially hearing from the comments and pictures on discord, that the lateral movement has been fixed on newer units. However considering they will be 500€ apart in just a week, I think even with all the clever tech and developement on the invictas, the choice objectively would be rather easy towards simagic. The invictas do look nice, but they come with a couple of quirks that I dont think justify the price tag.
I think with the price comparison, its also worth pointing out how a massive part of the invictas price, is in the clutch. I dont really get how the clutch alone is 299€ or even 349€ after the preorder special. With all the tech and developement that went into the brake system, I dont think its fair to tax 3 pedal users for that. It feels to me as if they are trying to appeal for the people that only run 2 pedals and kinda of try to get the money back by selling the clutches. It does price the 2 pedal set more competitively, but I will always want to run some manual cars and drift cars, so its simply not an option.
Absolutely EXCELLENT comment as usual. I agree with you! Great observations and comments like this add incredible perspective on my review videos. Thanks for putting in the effort to share your thoughts as they might really help someone.
Just got a set of the P2000's and every problem you pointed out has been fixed with the exception of the electrical connection box not having a proper attachment point.
I’m getting the new 2 pedal version of the P2000 so this is very exciting really.
You’ll be delighted with them. They’re really surprisingly good and at a great price
When is the estimate for the 2-pedal set? Any guess on the price?
@@jonferraez I’m getting it on March prob. It will cost me around 550 euro i think.
Brilliant video Laurence, I wish I’d watched this a week ago. I bought the Invicta’s last week and for all they are excellent and the brake pedal is phenomenal I think I’m going to return them and get the P2000’s.
The one thing that puts me off the P2000’s is the real brake fluid rather than a non carcinogenic fluid.
I’ve watched both your long term reviews and for all I think both pedal sets have a lot to offer I’m choosing the P2000’s.
Cheers 👍🏻
I think you messaged me on discord yeah :) hope you get sorted soon! Keep us posted
NIce video, I'm in the market for pedals... I see Invicta now have a "S series" where the thorrlet and brake are sperate, and extended brake kit
Super merci beaucoup
Je vais choisir simagic
The p11gt on your intro is what I drive daily. This means +1 subscriber :)))))
Hahaha NICE! My brother had a P10 SRi and I loved it. It helped to start my nissan obsession. I currently daily drive an s13 silvia
I’m really interested in the Invicta set but I prefer pedals that can be mounted individually. Im sure I could figure out a way to mount the Invicta to a slider but it’s so easy with the HPP JBVs I use. Aesthetically speaking both these pedals sets here look great.
yeah for some it's definitely an issue but for others it's a great convenience that they actually want
Great work Laurence, next up hydraulic pedals vs non-hydraulic high-end pedals ... and go 🙂
Hahaha which sets are you most interested in?
@@LaurenceDusoswa Non in particular, just would like to see your opinion on hydraulics pedals vs ones like the Heusinkveld Ultimate+ or the Simtrecs ProPedal Gt or something like those.
I have the P2000's, only gripe I have is the wiring. I do have a bit of sideways "wobble" on the pedals but it does not interfere with driving.They are lovelly to use though :)
yeah the wiring could be neater :) But it's definitely not bad either. they're very good pedals yeah and apparently the 'wobble' has been sorted!
Thanks for the review/comparison. You are adding a lot of details the other reviewers didn't mention. Also you don't seem to see a difference with the asetek 2 step break as Dan S or Dave C mentioned. I am now worried it wouldn't be so much different than my current pedals... I guess I still have 2 weeks to decide on my preorder!
I am very used to using pedal systems which use a cup system around the elastomers and these also simulate this 2 stage setup. Also the Simagic pedals use 2 springs as springs stop deforming once fully compressed. Elastomers don’t stop deforming. This is one of the reasons I was not a huge fan of the heusinkveld sprints.
thank you for the information
You’re very welcome
What a fantastic in depth video and comparison,i like others in the comments am reserved about the fluid leak, this is potentially a massive problem long term, was just wandering as this video is a year old have there been any long term issues reported or have they managed to fix this small leak.
You have to tighten the bolts on the pivoting point to remove the lateral play on the Simagic pedals
That’s the first thing I tried :p that’s not the solution :) those bolts are already as tight as they can be
Simagic load cell, better system vs pressure sensor. my P2000 pedals don't have that slack, tighten the bolts a bit and it will look better.
I would say that, simagic is a hybrid pedal, it runs with hydraulic system but not actually measure the oil pressure as most people assume. But invicta is a purely hydraulic pedal with pressure sensor.
Yes, correct
20 hours of video marathon to find out and decide on my new crankset!
And then I came across your video which compares my top 3 and my comforter for my top 1 the P2000 which in my opinion despite the technical aspect, but in the end a P2000 would have its place in a real racing car, while the 'asetek would make him a toy!!
I don't want to confuse you more. but there are positives and negatives for pretty much all pedals
@@LaurenceDusoswa Quite true, my first choice was the MECA but too powerful! , it takes an elephant's leg to brake!!!
So here the P2000 has been here since yesterday, still a lot of settings to do, but what happiness, what joy, a product of madness, I don't regret my purchase and will burn the gum now!
@Laurence youve forgotten to say, that there is NO Hallsensor on the P2000.
Also i dont have any lateral wobble in mine, which i got on the 10th of October last year.
Also there is no fluid outcoming of my hydraulic system.
Yep the Simagic uses a load cell system for all 3 pedals. Good point.
i've tested the asetek pedals sunday . i just jumped in the test setup and after braking twice i already loved the feeling. next is the simagic set.
awesome!
@@LaurenceDusoswa gonna be a difficult choice between the 2 . i can't afford choosing the wrong set.
@@nyftn Which one did you end up choosing? I think I'm going to go with Asetek.
@@MikaTarkela still using my old setup . still thinking about asetek setup or simucube with heusinkveld pedals .
@@MikaTarkela Did you end up getting the Asetek? Im thinking about pulling the trigger and getting them
I really want those p2000's with a long throttle. Looking forward to the full review! Could you get your hands on a long throttle btw?
I’ll try again :) thanks for the comment :)
Just another comment to say that my latest P2000's don't have the side to side wobble, no complaints about that. Interested to see what you did with the clutch though as the jolt is excessive!
I can show you in my discord! It really works a lot nicer
Awesome video, now how to decide between the P2000 and VRS pedals!!?
hahaha send VRS a message and ask them to send me a set to review ;) They're not currently on my radar
Lawrence. Had my p2000's for about 4 months now, and the lateral movement on mine is minimal at best. I have done a bit of maintenance on them tho.
Yeah it doesn’t bother me really but I hope it doesn’t get worse. It would be good to see some pics of your maintenance in my discord
@@LaurenceDusoswa Not much to show really. Basically, dry lube everywhere, grease the clutch bearing and double checked and tighten the pivot bolts.
Good comparison, and somehow I feel most honest I have seen. Cant figure why you are maybe first to point that Asetek pedals fixed design is disadvantage. They maybe great pedals, but if reviews are praising rgb lights and not pointing this, it feels more like marketing than review.
I think that there's so much complexity to a lot of this stuff that it's difficult to point everything out. It's a tough job, being a reviewer of these types of products. If you try to cover EVERYTHING then you end up with a 2 hour long video that nobody will watch :p I try to keep my videos a little bit shorter so as you can see in this one, some of the nerdy and technical chat is cut out to make it more consumable.
Good job with the comparison!
If it's matter of price, the Simagic is a winner. I think for the brake, the Simagic Hydraulic system is pointless if you still need springs to setup the pedal. As you've pointed out, the oil system will brings you more trouble than bennefit. But overall, you can't complain on anything, given their price.
Regarding, the build quality, the Invica is a clear winner, many dye-cast aluminum parts and all cables hidden.
I've choseen the Invicta for the brake system, the fact to have the company, Asetek, Europe. I too have a concern with the pedal face. But hopefully we will see Asetek releasing a new set of pedals faces shortly.
Hey :) I think you're misquoting me slightly :) The hydraulic system definitely isn't pointless and all hydraulic pedal systems still need springs or elastomers to allow for a progressive throw. Ultimately the pedal still needs to 'do work'. In real life, this work is to clamp a brake disk with a caliper. In our simulators, we simulate this resistance with materials that compress.
I also didn't say that hydraulic systems bring more trouble than benefit.
I'm excited for you that you're getting the invicta. They're pretty amazing for sure :) I can't wait to get the smooth pedal faces too and I really feel that I need them before I finalise my review
@@LaurenceDusoswa Hi Laurence, my appology for the misquoting and interpretation!
Ok, so maybe the biggset difference between the two is that the Invicta have a fixed travel by an hard stop , while with the P2000 you have to play with springs to reach your wanted max force and travel balance. And this is the same for non hydraulic brake pedal systems.
Overall, I like the fact that sim racers have now a lot of technical choices within various price range.
Keep-up with comparison, as end-users like me, have no opportunity to compare pedals before buying them.
Yeah both pedals have a hard stop. It’s the load cell and fully compressed springs that are the hard stop for Simagic. The distance travelled is dictated by several factors which you can adjust on the Simagic. You can also tweak them to have as little play as the invicta pedals.
Hello,
Thank you for this comprehensive comparison! Question, can we play in socks on the simagic P2000?
And has the lateral play of the pedals been corrected? THANKS.
Regarding your disconnects with the Simagic and you may already know and have tried this - but make sure any power saving settings for your USB ports is disabled as this is often a common issues with sim gear randomly disconnecting.
yeah i have that sorted already, but this was an issue specific to the simagic pedals. It went away at a later stage so I'm not sure if it was due to an earlier software version maybe. I don't know and cannot reproduce it now. I didn't dock marks for that. The main reason the invicta got a higher score is because it's just slightly slicker.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Personally I think Simagic would still be my pick, from price to the overall strong design, aesthetics and choice of materials (or way they’ve been used and shown off) plus I was shocked to hear you “can’t” adjust the Asetek pedals sideways on the base. I spotted what look like orange thumbscrews on it and simply assumed it also had that great adjustability feature that the Simagics have for such a lower price! The desire to support another economy than China’s is high but not for another 25% which for Aussie dollars is a lot of extra money again on top of already pricey Simagics (that do look and sound like you’re getting what you pay for though)
@@craiggallagher4461 All your points, can also be applied for choosing the SimForge mark1.
@@ehudlavon2592 Hadn’t heard of them, had a quick look and they look alright but I’d still pick the Simagics.
@@craiggallagher4461 Simagic looks like a better product.
Great review Laurence !
The lack of versatility and unique brake feel on the Invicta is a bit of a deal breaker.
The reliability over time (brake fluid leak ?) on the Simagic is a real concern in my mind.
Now the question is , how do they compare VS more classical but very good Heusinkveld and Venym ?
the simagic 'leak' is more of a splash/spill really. The integrity of the system itself seems sound. The fact of the matter is that most high end pedal sets will make their owners very very happy.
Yes, nothing pleasant about toxic hydraulic fluid leaking from 'new' brake units. It doesn't inspire confidence but apparently fairly common in many sim hydraulic brake systems that are available. Another plus for the Invicta design is that they use a vegetable oil instead. Definitely a more pet and family friendly approach.
Surprisingly, leaking hydraulic brakes is a fairly common occurrence in many of the hydraulic brake systems that are on the market. On the other hand Invicta use a vegetable oil which seems a more pet and family friendly approach.
IMO…if you’re using some kind of haptic feedback system I think having the electronics separate from the rig like the P2000’s offer is a great idea! I had both my CSL V1’s and the Brake pedal on my Sprints fail, I’m not 100% sure it’s from the vibrations but once my Invicta’s arrive I’m removing the transducer from the pedal plate…BTW Heusinkveld is great they replaced the pedal no questions asked
Nice one!
right at the beginning you have said about the base plate and how simagic you have options to move pedals on the plate while you can't do that with invicta so for that reason you give 1 point more to invicta which has less options??
As someone who recently bought HE Sprints, every time I see P2000s I regret my purchase.
The Sprints are fantastic, yes, but the P2000s are everything I want in a pedal set and I could've had it all for the same price.
I'm honestly considering selling my Sprints and getting P2000s, but I've already dumped so much money into my setup that I'm not really in a position to spend any more.
In sim racing you often just need to follow your heart. That can be expensive though!
Don’t worry built quilt In heusinkveld is unmatched .
"GOH WAEY CAT" LOL good man yourself :D
Thank you for doing a comparison video, really helpful. Was wondering if you really need the baseplate for the P2000s if you have a rig with a thick mounting plate already - like the Trak Racer or sim lab pedal plates - can the pedals be mounted directly to that? And how big a concern is the leaking brake fluid on the P2000s (is that actual brake fluid or something less toxic)? I like the idea of more setup options with the P2000s, but I have a dog so having any amount of brake fluid leakage around sounds like a deal breaker.
I have asked them to confirm about the fluid. As for the mounting plate question, there's no real reason that I can see that you can't just mount the pedals to your profile.
So I know the SimForge set is not in the same price bracket... but how much better is the p2000s in comparison?
The p2000 is a more polished product with great software and build quality. The simforge are totally worth the money though. They’re incredible value and can be set up to feel incredibly good. The baseplate is the best I ever used.
How do the VRS and Cup 1's compare to these? Yes I know they're not hydraulic so there will be a difference.
I don't have experience with the VRS but the Cup1 are pretty amazing pedals. I honestly like the feel of hydraulic pedals but I don't feel that I gain any benefit from it. The cup1s are still amongst the best pedals I have ever used. I think that they Cup1s are probably a bit expensive compared to the hydraulic offerings in this video
Which unit goes best with the Fanatec DD1 would you say ? im thinkingditching the V3 pedals i got
Either would go perfectly with a DD1 really
When will the Simagic 2-pedal set be available as an estimate? Any guess on the price?
I honestly don't know. I would anticipate a price of around €650 still. That's just my guess. It could be cheaper.
The main issue of these hydraulic brakes is oil. Who wants the immersion of losing brake pressure in a sim, like the professionnals do in real racing, because the cylinder looses a tiny bit oil? Who wants oil on his home carpet ? What are the costs of repair ? The broken brake and the spoiled floor.
Can't trust superficial influencers, the loss of oil is barely mentionned for the P2000, and the system isn't explained at all for the Asatek.
Too much uncertainties to make a buying decision for either products.
Unless someone like Barry takes the cyclinders apart to explain, how they try to minimize the obvious oil leak risk when it's repeatedly under explosive pressure of 100 up to 170kg.
Principal of nature : what goes up, must go down, what goes in, will go out...
They are both chinese made, Asetek are all produced in china just assembled in Denmark
are you sure about that? I'm not
@@LaurenceDusoswa yes, info from the sales person from Asetek they produce the pedals in china as their cooling solutions they just do assembling & packaging in Denmark.
What about Heusinkvled Ultimate+?? Is It better than this two? Any opinions?
I've talked to 3 He Ultimate + owners who have made the jump to the Asetek Invicta, every one of them repeats the same thing: they make the same times on the Asetek within a few laps on the track with no problem, once they are familiar with the pedals they are able to improve the times. Braking and pedal feel is child's play. They are extremely happy with the change to the Asetek. Some are bothered by the inferior throttle pedal, in their opinion, due to too weak a spring. Of course they are waiting for the Asettes to make a move, hoping they will get a stronger spring. Otherwise they will buy one at their own expense.
I also know a few people who switched from VRS pedals to Asetek and they also appreciate this change.
I do not know anyone who would make such a move and switch to the Simagic P2000.
I have a huge dilemma what to buy. I pre-ordered the Invicta and I guess when my payment arrives and I don't have enough money I will buy the P2000 at a later date.
Personally I think that in this comparison apart from the element of adjusting pedals to oneself Asetek is the winner.
I wonder if in P2000 it is also possible to adjust the brake pedal with two-step feel the same way as in Asetek?
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CURSE YOU!!!!! HAHA. JK Thanks for the video. I had already seen Dave's video but wanted to see yours as like me your a Simagic user. I already have everything else Simagic and was thinking of going with them but then I saw the invictas and figured why not. Now since I have had so much time to think I have been back and forth. I think I will stick with my pre-order and worse come to worse return the Invictas and by the P2000's.
If you are not happy with the invictas, I will do a dance live on stream, or something else super embarrassing. There's just no way most people will be unhappy unless you're a sensitive footed sock user.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Bruh I will totally hold you to that one if that is the case HAHA HAHA!!
can you use sand paper to remove the pedal ridges to make it smoother?
potentially. but do you really want to do DIY on a pedal set of this price?
P2000 dont work in R3E when pluged direct on PC
oh really? Did you contact simagic about this? Seems like a pretty big issue
Why do so many of the higher end pedals have the faces straight vertical? That's not how feet work
it is how race cars have their pedals because of your seating position is much lower to the pedals,
Yeah as said, even in a gt style car, you sit very low in relation to the pedals. So if they were at the same angle as in a road car you would be hyper extending your feet which wouldn’t be comfortable or efficient.
For me, Asetek Invictas blow the P2000s out of the water. the DIY aspect of the simagic pedals is a big turnoff for me personally and since i don't need a clutch pedal anyway, the Invictas get very competitive in price. The Thorp system is more appealing to me than the double spring used in the P2000. I preordered the invictas a few months back.
I would like to add to this comparison that Asetek THEMSELVES say that their product is not for everyone. If you want replicated realism then the invictas is going to be for you and if you want to be more casual about it then it's probably not for you.
Thanks for the comment :) from a usage point of view, both can be set up and configured similarly so it’s not like the Simagic or other pedals don’t feel like race car pedals just because Asetek SimSports are so confident in theirs. It’s important to appreciate what asetek are doing, but every company says their own pedals are the best :)
The thorp system is incredible and very compact. You’ll love them and you’re right about the 2 pedal set being more affordable or appealing. That clutch is kinda pricey.
Good comment though :) definitely food for thought for people :)
@@LaurenceDusoswa yeah it CAN be set up to feel good. But is it easy to get it there? Doesnt seem like it on the P2000. On the invictas, it is setup great out of the box according to the half dozen reviews i have watched and all reviewers are independent of each other. Personally I dont want to spend a ton of time adjusting a lot of things. The thing about not being able to move the pedals isnt a bad thing in my opinion. They are set up to replicate how it is set up in a real race car. That is what you are going to get.
All I am saying is it is not just asetek themselves saying their product is the best ;)
The one criticism that I do have is that I dont see how you can sell a clutch for 300 euros. 699 for high end race car pedals set up perfectly out of the box is a good price. I am excited for what they bring out next. They have bought some IPs that suggest a wheel base and wheels are coming. And lower end pedals have also been hinted at. I love what asetek is doing and it will make sure their competitors keep up which is better for the consumers overall!
@@marcusberggren9241 But in an actual race car the race pedals are custom designed and spaced to best accommodate the intended driver of the vehicle as to foot size and personal preferences.
Same goes for the actual race seat and its size and position.
So having the pedals on your sim rig come out of the box with a vanilla fixed spacing not adjustable to actually best fit the intended driver is not done for the realism factor but more to have less engineering design involved, decrease parts count and possibly production cost or perhaps all of these reasons combined.
I will also add that yes I am aware that the pedal spacing can be adjusted somewhat with the pedal face positioning but although I think that solution may be acceptable for lesser pedal offerings such as much more budget brands with under 100 kg maximum pressure designs I do not feel that this off center of the actual pedal arm and pivot point is a reasonable alternative to actually being able to keep the pedal face centered on the arm and moving the entire assembly to change the spacing.
Going for a top end market then Asetek should have not worried about incorporating RGB lighting strips but more to making the product more adjustable to fit the consumers desires at such a high price point.
I will also add I am not one of the gamers at a level this product is targeted for, but in my opinion neither will many of those that purchase such a system.
The only people I can see that really need or benefit from a system like this may be real life drivers that sim race as well along the likes of a D. Perel or N. Thiim which could use their sim time getting more familiar with a track and want the pedal pressures to simulate their real race car so the differences will be minimal when they switch from the sim to the real life track.
The average gamer who is not real life racing needs repeatable braking response and needing to be at extremely high pressure forces to obtain that is not a requirement and in itself is not going to make you a better sim racer in my opinion.
my simagic throttle has broken within a week :(
Wow really :( where did you buy them? Did you get a new one from your supplier?
@@LaurenceDusoswa from abruzzi, they answered me within 5 mins today when i raised it and said they will try to send a new pedal out tomorrow or so
Ah nice one
Are both compatible with Simucube wheelbase?
Yes they are standalone USB
@@LaurenceDusoswa Thank you very much
Simmagic hands down. When companies do a price increase and give you nothing extra i see no reason to buy from them anymore.
Simagic did a price increase with their earlier products. It’s also not like the price increase was a surprise. It was always an introductory offer
I had the Simagic P2000 with a 200kg Loadcell and send them back after one day. Absolut terrible Quality and not what i saw in the few reviews that exist.
Ah man that sucks :( I haven’t had those issues thankfully, but it is a concern and you’re not the first to say it here in the comments
Simagic is reeeaaally bad quality. Our pedal set broke down after 4 hours. Dead. Our Simagic Seq Shifter aswell…
P2000s anyday all day. I do not like aseteks pedals at all and probably never willl
What shoe is that?
My boots are from here: www.imbracewear.com/pages/the-laurence-dusoswa-collection
@@LaurenceDusoswa thanks
That force feedback brakes comment didn’t age well
I may have known it was coming :p
@@LaurenceDusoswa Lol I don’t doubt it 😅
How dare you kick out sim cat… shame!!!!
hahahaha
Real brake fluid is dangerous shit, especially when using indoors and it leaked? I know which pedals I'm not buying!
they use oil, not brake fluid as real cars
I have asked them to confirm which oil they use :)
Did Simagic review this video before you released it? Not sure that I can trust any Simagic review knowing how they like to control what's published about their products. This brings question marks over the couple of categories where the Simagic product was marked down. Build quality surely should have been a point or 2 lower, as should the electronics scores. The issues you raised on both of those didn't tally to the scores given, certainly not when you look at the hammering you gave the Invictas in the final score (and I'm not saying that score wasn't justified). Just knowing Simagic's controlling nature detracts from this review, certainly in light of reviews from other very trusted you-tubers.
To clarify, I think your review was 100% truthful. You didn't pull your punches with issues with both pedal sets. It's just that your scores didn't agree with the comments...
Wow 😂 I have done many Simagic reviews now and if you watched any/all of them you would see that there’s no way Simagic would have been in control of the review 😂
It also undermines my integrity that you would think that my reviews could be influenced in any way. I’m not motivated by money or hardware. This is a part time thing for me and I never sell any of the hardware I am sent as I feel that it cannot have monetary value to a reviewer. As soon as I would sell some hardware it would be as good as being paid for a review.
And finally, the sole purpose of these comparisons is to allow people to adjust the numbers to suit their liking so that they can come to reasoned and tangible conclusions. If I felt that my concerns and opinions were the only one that mattered, I wouldn’t use this format.
800euro vs 1200euro is almost 2k differences in my currency...
So its natural simagic product will be preferred...
Even in DD wheel segment literally almost everyone using simagic wheel m10/alpha/alpha mini in my country due to pricing and yet awesome quality...
I don't get the Asetek hype. They are over priced, look cool but sort of cheap at the same type, and the brake is limited and not really realistic with such strict limited movement. Overrated.
lol.. the sim magic pedals are not even in the same universe as the invicta, not even close… who ever is reading this buy the invicta.
There brake is a 10, the sim magic brake is a 6.
That’s a personal opinion. Many will prefer the Simagic because the invictas are so stiff. Unless you’re very hardcore and want a super heavy brake, I wouldn’t recommend the invicta pedals personally.