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Wonder if they gonna reveal who was puppeteering Viserys in the next episode cause that had to be necromancy 😂 mans was a corpse!
IM ACTUALLY IN TEARSSS 😭😭
The Night King sent a scouting force to King's Landing, y'see...
@@DNotzz 🤓
@@DNotzz personification of the nerd emoji goes to you.
For the Editor:
I mean yeah, "milk of the poppy" is basically just an opioid derivative. So even if it's not specifically heroin, it's in that same drug group.
Daemon said ‘ keep my wife’s name out your mouth!’ 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“If I was will smith I woulda slapped em wit a sticc”
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Lol
Gotta admire Jacaerys standing up for his fiancé/cousin/sister
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lmaoooo
LOL! You forgot “aunt.” 😅
@Dyl they are distantly related.. Their great grandpa were brothers
@@wraith1701 no aunt wouldn’t apply, she would have to be the sibling of his parents/stepfather/fake father none of which she is. Technically she would be 2nd cousin/stepsister but that doesn’t have the same ring to it
Viserys and Daemon were on some real gangster shit this episode.
Viserys walking into the throne room, standing up for his daughter and trying to bring love and peace to his family. Daemon sticking up for his wife and showing respect and compassion for his dying brother.
So good.
Same blood, same mother, both brothers, all gangster.
And killing another valerian left after the doom. Really gangster. Velaryon should rebelto this targaryens for all the L bro. They rich
@@reanukeeves3692 the 2nd half of your sentence sent me back to slavery bro. What are you even saying??? I don't even understand. My masters were Vikings bro, I don't want that!
@@reanukeeves3692 Their story is not over. Let's just leave it at that.
They related of course they be all gangster
Vaemond Velaryon’s death was an example of “when keeping it real goes wrong”
You ain't kidding. He didn't see it coming at all.
Gotta respect it.. homie said it with his CHEST too 😂
Nah man. That's not his chest. That's his WHOLE TORSO
Nah bro was stupid. How you gon call someone's wife a whore and step children bastards and then turn your back to him. Especially when you know that someone is absolutely with the shits when you saw him drag out the top half of Mr. Krabs in episode 3. I would've at least waited till I got on the ship back and a fair distance away from the port before I yelled out that shit.
It's Velaryon cmon man 8 episode already
Its amazing how often Roshi gets something wrong and Sheera got it right but he convinces her over to his side 😅
Roshi ceo of gaslight
@@matiasgonzalez1360 That... isn't how gaslighting works.
@@theperson8539
you're right... it's how jokes work
@@theperson8539 yooooo the person tryna gaslight Matias into believing the wrong definition for gaslight😊
@@miketrujillo3677 Maybe you should Google it.
I think milk of the poppy is like opium it dulls pain but is addictive the mountain uses it a lot to deal with the headaches he gets due to his gigantism
think morphine
It is opium. Milk of the poppy is just the liquid form. It was common as a medicinal painkiller for thousands of years and yes, people got addicted to it. Marcus Aurelius, the roman emperor, was a massive poppy fiend. Being as wealthy and powerful as he was though, he never was short of the stuff, so it didn't really show like addiction does these days.
Thing is, milk of the poppy isn't as strong as refined opium that is smoked, or heroin, which is even stronger and has a more intense high. In the archaeological record, there are many sites where archaeologists find piles of bones, wood, or some kind ornate stone pipe laced with traces of petrified opium. Not wanting to touch that hot potato, you have to dig to find this information. It's like how when they found Pompeii and discovered all the brothels with their lewd artwork on the walls (so foreigners who couldn't speak Greek or Latin could just point for what they wanted from the prostitutes. They actually avoided taking tours in those sites for quite some time and would just show the architectural beautiful buildings or the preserved bodies.
Opium was more popular than marijuana; curiously enough, weed was smoked, inhaled in a kind of incense burner, or put in food and seen as a purely medicinal herb. Opium was where it was at, for recreation or easing the pain of illness or injury. It also shaped a lot of human history in subtle and overt ways. The Opium wars of China still affect the West's relationship with China to this very day and influences a lot of the antagonism that now currently exists between the US and China, with the potential for WWIII. The much more intense and addictive fentanyl is wreaking havoc across the US and elsewhere, causing civil unrest, societal unease, and calls for radical action. Opium still shapes our world to this day.
The study of the simple poppy plant leads down a rabbit hole, with stories of healing, madness, indescribable pain, the triumph of the human spirit, and the greed of men.
It is. It's explained in the books that it's created using poppy aka opium and then mixed with milk and honey. I've always gotten the impression it's effects are similar to that of Codeine or Oxy because of how delirious the user gets. Still not as bad/crazy as the psychedelic drink Shade of the Evening, which is the elixir that Dany drank when she visited the House of the Undying and had her visions and in the books, Euron Greyjoy is seemingly addicted to it (from the Euron chapter that was released for Winds of Winter years ago, poor man got absolutely butchered by his TV adaptation)
It’s kind of like heroin which is also made from poppy 😮
that's why growing poppies is prohibited in many countries only poppy seeds are sold the more milk poppy you drink the more you need later you get addicted to it and can't deal with pain without it
That's exactly what it is. Opium is a flower.
Alicent never figured out that viserys believed he was talking to rhanerya. So she misinterpreted that conversation as him wanting aegon as king.
At least that how I took it as well. Ironically enough, the King just undid all his good work at uniting the realm, and put Alicent back on the path of war.
Yup. Alicent wouldn’t recognize details of the song of ice and fire because Viserys never told her. That prophecy is only meant for the current king to pass it on to his heir, so only Rhaenyra ever knew. Alicent just focused on a few key words like Aegon, prince, promised, unite the realm (not against white walkers but the lords of Westeros who will rebel against any female ruler). Earlier this episode she was ready to give up on Aegon because he’s such a disappointment, especially after the *ape, and I think she meant it when she told Rhaenyra she’d make a good queen. But misinterpreting Visery’s last words will now make her think she has the king’s mandate to make Aegon king.
@@somestuff7876 Even in his death, he (in)directly caused another conflict(s).
@@atkim122 Alicent was going to make Aegon king either way lol. Not that I'm about to start spoiling any book details for you, but let's just say the Greens feel strongly enough about Aegon being in charge that they're willing to absolutely rip apart the entire realm lmfao
@@atkim122 why do you think she went full force though? like i wonder why she didn’t question the possibility of the words being wrong. maybe cause it was her first time hearing a prophecy?
Viserys walking towards his throne, gave me and I expect everyone chills! My man a skeleton, but will still fight for his beloved daughter, mad respect for that Fatherly strength!!!
So true! And when Daemon came up to help him..🥺🥲
Nothing like the love between a father and daughter.
Untill he turned on her and named his son agon his heir
@@jackhilton4285 i don't think he turned on his daughter.. he thought he was still talking to his daughter and was answering her question from earlier in the episode when she came in to plead for his help. Allicent just misinterpreted it as her son's name is also Aegon
"for the manga readers," shit was more funny than it should've been
Milk of the Poppy be that medieval oxycotion.
@@Christrulesall2 Nah. It's opium. And it's not medieval, we still get opioids from poppies cultivated in the Golden Triangle and Golden Crescent regions. The flowering portion of the plant is cut and a milk-like sap is collected and dried. The dried, crystalline residue is opium. One of the main components of opium is morphine. The morphine in milk of the poppy can then be converted into more concentrated forms like hydromorphone or oxycodone or whatever.
When Daemon dared Viemond to say it, I half expected Viemond to shout ‘Those children are crackers!’ , 😂
Daemon out of pure spite would probably just call him a nigga back 🤣
Then instead of Vaemond being killed it's just an insult match lmao
i heard Dave Chapelle say that in my head XD
Vaemon looked like Dave Chappelle from certain angles 🤣
69th like
@@Crispifordthe3rd515 Bro instead of it being gory, it would just be super uncomfortable for everyone involved lmao
Paddy Considine take a bow, good lord. Ended his time on the show with one of the most heartbreaking performances of this franchise. At least Viserys didn't have to see the Dance of Dragons play out.
It's his fault it happened
@@Pacbandit13 Yes, in part. But saying it's only his fault would not be fair either. Everyone made decisions that contributed to getting to that destination.
He's honestly such a good actor, man. You wouldn't know just by looking that he was also the priest in Peaky Blinders.
@@RabidDogma he was great in Hot Fuzz too
Hodoor's death was another 'tear jerker'.
I am a grown ass man and for the first time i shed tears for a fictional character!Paddy deserve all the awards under the sun, his Viserys was phenomenal and absolute tragic.
My son in law shed a few tears too. His grandfather passed recently as well as a cousin. That family dinner speech hit him hard.
He sure does deserve an Emmy
Dude was the sanest person in the show and even he was crazy but not as everybody else they’ll power hungry monsters.
Weak
Viserys hobbling his way to the throne was heart wrenching and by god the music made it infinitely better, probably the best scene in the show by far
Every episode seems better than the last. I thought ep7 would be tough to beat, but nope next week they did it.
Daemon literally said "you ain't gonna talk about my niece-wife/sister in law like that."
Alicent got her bias confirmed in that moment for Her son Aegon, That’s why. She was prepaid to “loose” the throne to Rhaenyra because she knows; especially after what Aegon did to the girl. Rhaenyra was a better fit for the crown, but after hearing Vicerys ; it’s almost like she found for a reason to keep her son on the throne so she doesn’t feel bad for putting a terrible person on it herself. Like “Oh this is what my late Husband wanted, we must fulfill his wish” type thing
Can't blame her. Remember before Viserys told Alicent about his dream he had about his son wearing the Conqueror's Crown so that seed had already kinda been planted. And then he tells her this.
exactly what happened to Rhaenys backing up Lord Corly's support of Luke as heir to driftmark, she can simply say it's her husband's last wishes.
I think you mean "lose"
That's so annoying & dump if the show brign this as an excuse to make you sympathize with alicent more that's soo annoying doesn't make sense for many reasons
@@laza0202 Alicent has been extremely divided into whether support Aegon and Otto or fullfill Visery's wishes, in the dinner after Rhaenyra's toast and Visery's words, she found a reason to choose her, but after hearing Visery's "last wishes", and thanks to the previous comment here, I remembered that he had told her something similar in episode 2, makes sense, it's not just the whole dream thing, that's more like the last drop to fill the cup in Alicent's mind to support her son.
Vaemond was literally the embodiment of the phrase "They hated him because he told the truth"
Well no, he did make a good argument but he tried to undermine what his brother initially wanted. He was dumb the way he went about it. Who gives a damn if those are not your nephews. YOU are not the lord of driftmark.
Facts he said what everyone already was thinking lmao 😂
FR, and for that he has my respect.
@@thechangamire3495 Same though. 😂
@@philbobaggins9605 true tbh, he should've just bent the knee and poisoned lucerys down the line, he was just too honorable.
Once Veamond said her children were bastards he knew he was dying so he just said everything else he wanted to say
Him in his head be like:
"Am I going to risk it? Yeah. Fuck it. BASTARDS"
I think he knew before then, which is why he said it. Bringing the issue up in general when the line of succession was "obviously settled" (because everyone knows those are laenor's sons, right? ☻️) was already basically calling them bastards in an official, legal setting. He likely wasn't getting back to Driftmark once Viserys walked in and his possible maneuver with the Hightowers was thwarted, so he went out with spite.
Bro was gonna have to take orders from that kid I think people forget that part 😂. He was like naw I’m out 😅
game of thrones never made me cry but i gotta admit when daemon helped viserys up the throne i couldn’t hold back the tears
@Rick King 22 I'm with Issa, I found this more emotional. Those moments you mentioned were too shocking to make me tear up.
@Rick King 22 Those moments were shocking, sure, but this scene has MUCH more weight to it IMO because we can all identify with Daemon trying to help someone who's very close to us that's very clearly near the end of their life.
@Rick King 22 hodor actually did get me pretty emotional but nope no actual tears shed…except maybe for when season 8 came out
@@issaphae9659 I heard it was improvised too, when the crown fell he came in and helped viserys and put the crown on his head. Originally viserys was just gonna waddle onto the throne
@@funnelingspace9268 yeah i heard that too. matt smith just casually creating the most powerful moment of the series so far.
The Velaryons back Stannis in the books. They aren't in the show because they aren't really relevant to the plot. Hightowers are similar. They still rule Old Town in the time of GoT and are still one of the wealthiest & most powerful houses in Westeros.
House Hightower might be my favorite house in Westeros. First men lineage, rule a port town with vaguely eldritch origins and a huge fuckin lighthouse, patrons of the arts and sciences, just chillin collecting that tax revenue being generally indispensable to the Tyrells. Leader of their house might be a crock sorcerer/alchemist with a hot witch daughter, plotting how to defend against Euron, another sorcerer.
@@khafaniking1230 House Hightower also has the largest standing army during the time period of GOT.
@@khafaniking1230 Also own the greatest city in Westeros. King's Landing has it beat in some areas but let's be real, that place is a shithole.
@@ajax7140 does George ever explain why they aren't lord paramount of the reach? They seem far more powerful than the Tyrells and even the Gardeners
@@mattyice9535 The reach? Isn't that over in the vale, you mean High Garden right?
They didn't catch it but when Aemond called his nephews "strong boys" he was referring to them as Captian Strong's illegitimate sons.
I'm pretty sure they did catch it.
When they cut Vaemond's head off I knew I couldn't wait for y'all's reaction.
If Jace and Luke are married to Baela and Rhaena then both the iron throne and driftwood thrones would pass to true Valyrian blood. If Vaemond was purely motivated by wanting to preserve the bloodline he would have been soothed by that announcement, not enraged. That shows that he was largely motivated by his own ambition (and/or a sincere disgust of bastards).
Jace and Luke are not velaryons so even if they marry one there is no "true" velaryon blood
You're reading wayy into it.....there was no ambition involved in his petition
@@phoenixking9457 ...Baela and Rhaena are trueborn Velaryons. The children of theirs with Jace and Luke would not have had the name Velaryon, but then the Targaryen kings from then on would have Velaryon blood in them; allowing for future plots.
@@odaviing3871 bastards strong boys. They all die anyways
@@odaviing3871why would their names change from valeryon to Targaryen? Please refrain if it’s a game of thrones spoiler because I haven’t seen it
@@Myaccount923 That is the deal Viserys makes with Corlys in the show.
18:54 🤣 I can't stop replaying this over and over.
Remember the daughters that are betrothed to Luke and Jace are Valyrian. So the line will continue. It was a power play. Otto and Alicent wanted a loyal person over driftmark(navy). Now it will fall under Rhaenyra. Moving chess pieces on the board. Alicent will take the kings proclamation on his death bed as a sign to fight. The war of the blacks and greens has officially started. Next episode will show why Rhaenyra decides to join into conflict.
That is not how it works.
If it was, then any sibling could claim the head of the family. And Any royal could claim to be King.
So when Viserys dies, any of his siblings: Rhaenys, Rhaenyra, Daemon, Aegon, Aemond, Daeron, Haleana, Luke, Jace, Joffrey, Aegon(Rhae), Viserys(Rhae) would all claim for Kingship.
Also are you forgetting, that the blood will be dirtied by Bastardy. And not even Velaryon Bastardy. Basically an outside family mess up with theirs.
@@bigivel my point was the line would continue. I understood his point. But he wasn't on solid ground with the king. The conversation was over.
@@bigivel no. laenor recognized those kids as his.
That guy was so wrong. he couldn't accept that his claim was weak. The "dad" the heir recognized those kids, gave them HIS NAME. The "grand father" accepted them. It was his WILL. The "grand mother" accepted them. Its like your brother taking the inheritance you left for your adopted child. That was his fault. Plus those kids are gonna marry the valeryon kids either way. so the next generation all would be fixed.
and itsall assumption since there is no dna testing. '
the blood would remain, and the name would remain.
plus rhaenery has some valeryon blood so her kids do too.
if he had an issue he should have talked to his brother before. his claim was weak af
But the unique Y Chromosome branch passed down father to son will be gone
@@ay5415 and in the end of the day Corlys is the lord of the tides, not Vaemond, and Corlys wanted Lucerys as heir, so his wishes should be respected.
Also, if Rhaenyra would've told Rhaenys that Laenor was still alive, that would mean Rhaenyra and Daemon's marriage would be invalid as well. Which means she just had more babies that would've been named bastards. Plus, I assume that would've also been treason to fake your death and allow your valid wife to remarry.
19:07 Bruh this editor, the focus returning to Lupa's glasses killed me 🤣
Daemon had been waiting to do that since the Master of Complaints was throwing shade in the step stones.
"You dropped this, King." -Daemon
Also yeah milk of the poppy is pretty much Old Timey Heroine. I believe the ancient Romans also used poppy extract as a painkiller
This man Daemon took the Will Smith slap at the Oscars to a whole new level bro.😂😂😂
You got to remember, Alicent has shown this episode that she is on a religious kick. I think that when she heard Viserys talking about Aegon uniting the realm, that he was the one. I think she will look on what the king said as confirmation of everything she believed. She is looking for any excuse to put her son forward, now the king's words make it look like it his divine right. It is safe to say, that Roshi's right, things are about to get spicy.
Well everyone keeps forgetting about that conversation by the bonfire in episode 3 where Viserys told her that he had a dream about his firstborn son becoming a great conqueror and being born with a crown and all that, that's definitely what she thinks he's talking about with the "Aegon's Dream" stuff
@@Vincent-gl7bs Curiously, that dream is technically true (SPOILERS FOR THE NEXT EPISODES)
Aegon II wear the crown of Aegon I with his valyrian steel sword, Blackfyre
@@Vincent-gl7bs Everyone kept forgetting every Alicent scene by the time the next episode rolled out bc they were too busy seething or something. Like the amount of details - or even fairly obvious character traits - that have been completely discarded makes me think people were simply not paying attention or were busy assuming the worst and mentally rewriting every line of dialogue she had to make her sound more sinister/malicious in their head. There's just no way
They weren't saying Corlys was dead, they were saying it's possible that by the time they arrive he will have passed because he has a blood infection from his wounds.
14:00 nvm, you got it now. 😄
Vaemond died for no reason other than his own ambition. He was right to try and bring it up and make his shot. But the moment the engagement of Jace and Luke to Baela and Rhaena was announced his argument died. The next Lord of the Tides would have a Velaryon bride, a Velaryon name, and any kids they have would have Velaryon blood, and it would make the future Queen a Velaryon proper. It literally fixes every problem he had, and his house grows in power even more. He just didn't want to be passed over as head of the House for a child.
You didn't understand the series....watch it again
He is interested in blood not the name and it must be passed down from a true velaryon male....Baela and Rhaena are targaryeans in his eyes so in order for your point to work their husband will have to be a true velaryon....which Jace is not cuz he's a Bastard
That look Rhaenys gives as Viserys drags himself to the throne. Years ago, he was given what should have been hers. And here, in one of his final moments as King, he gives her the power. He let's her decide, as she would have if she had been given what she deserved. He made her the Queen she always was in that moment. Stunning.
Jace and Luke doesn't have Velaryon's blood, but they were legitimate. Laenor raised them as his own and loved them and they have the name. Just as an adoptive father. And Vaemond's problem with bloodline went down, because their son would have Velaryon's blood regardless, since the boys are to marry Laena's daugthers, Baela and Rhaena
Technically, they're not legitimate because even though they were raised as Laenor's sons, they were still bastards, and they were obviously so. Coryls and Laenor would've needed to legitimize them, but that would be admitting that they're not biologically Velaryons.
Laenor did not official adopt the boys he pretended to be their father, therefore the boys are still legally illegitimate. Both Vaemond and the Hightowers have the right to be upset with them
13:21 editor was fowl for that one!!!! 😂😂😂😂
Yeah i was dying😂😂
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Imo, the miscommunication thing serves as a catalyst for the Dance of Dragons. It’s not like it wasn’t gonna happen if that scene didn’t take place. Alicent is grasping at anything that reminds her that her sons need to rule.
Great way to put it. I don’t believe this is in the books but it shows who she really is.
you can see that the rotting side of viserys face at the dinner table is on the side where the hightowers are sitting but his side where his face is mostly okay is on the side rhaenyra and her family is sitting. its great symbolism that shows how much more he cares about rhae and her family than alicent and hers. one side got the good end of things from him while the other was left to rot.
That's a great observation and interpretation
deamond's SAY IT phrase gives me hella goosebumps..
This episode was so fire as hell
One of the best GoT episodes ever. The actors have all outdone themselves in this episode, and the writing and directing was outstanding.
I love that despite Veimond being right, and we all respect the hell out of him for speaking out, EVERYBODY accepted that he went too far. And huge shoutout to Paddy Considine for his acting as Viserys Targaryen. His performance through this entire show was an absolute masterclass.
Fr. Vaemond, while he _wasn't wrong_ in the slightest, spoke too much with too little protection.
I mean he wasn’t even all that right either. If Luke marries Baela, their children will still be of Velaryon blood, the line won’t end. But I guess he’s all about the “pure blood” business.
@Dyl You’re right. But I guess you can argue about the philosophical view of it. GRRM writes about the unfair treatment of bastards but some are raised alongside trueborn children like a part of the family. If Laenor loved his bastard children as his own and Corlys recognized Luke as heir, then should it even be questioned? But that’s me talking out of my ass lol
@@REChronic54 He just wanted the seat for himself. Yeah, he's right but he's an opportunist. Corlys made it clear he wanted Luke on the throne and if all Vaemond cared about was Velaryon blood he would have shut up after the deal happened. Instead he realized he got outplayed and decided to fall on his own sword.
Rhaenyra is so trash lmao the only people I see defending her are girls 😂
I swear this is the only channel that can make fun of the saddest episode of every show while other channels cried their eyes out.
This episode was so wonderful 10/10
Poor Shera she the only one paying attention and right just to keep being told naw that’s wrong lmao wild
FUN FACT: The bit with Viserys’s crown falling off his head and Daemon tenderly retrieving it? Not in the script
Just Paddy and Matt in the moment
the crown part is true but Daemon was always meant to help him
it made that moment even that much more powerful
Such a good episode! The Viserys performance was epic!
Fun fact: the scene of Daemon helping Viserys up the throne wasn't in the script. Paddy Constantine dropped the crown on accident and Matt Smith went up and helped him along the way.
Kinda seems unlikely since the camera also immediately focused on the dropped crown. Unless it was shot multiple times.
Milk of the poppy is definitely an opiate style painkiller. Addictive as well
Milk of the poppy is indeed the equivalent of heroine. Basically like morphine and pain killers
It's not. Heroin is addictive poppy milk isn't. It is used as a painkiller or anesthetic before surgery
@@missrese100 “As with morphine it is possible to become addicted to milk of the poppy if it is over-used.” Direct quote from the wiki page, it’s an opioid hence the poppy part in the name
@@brennanrattenni Citing Wikipedia is a confession of profound ignorance.
@@alphanerd7221 not Wikipedia the wiki for the books. Much different with actual citations
@@brennanrattenni Same thing. You are quoting a bathroom wall.
Nah I don’t think she knows of Prince Aegon’s Fire and Ice story because Viserys said in episode 1 that it was a secret passed on by Targaryens at this time
While Vaemond is correct that Jace and Luke are bastards, Lord Corlys has pretty explicitly said he doesn’t care and is passing Driftmark to them. As he’s a second son, Driftmark should go to Laena’s children/their spouses before him anyway. He has no real claim. Also, a lord can appoint anyone they want to be heir. Doesn’t have to be blood-related and legally Luke is.
Exactly. I don't see how some second son with no stake and no birthright is the aggrieved party when the King and the Lord agreed who the heir is and don't care about bloodlines.
23:47 bro this edit had me fcking dying😂 this editor needs to get a bag mane hahah
I low key cried like a little kid while watching this episode 😢
Placing Rhaena with luke on driftmark keeps Veleryon blood on their throne
Blood doesn't matter. Vaemon just wanted to rule Driftmark. No respect for an uncle trying to take his adopted nephew's inherent due to "blood".
@@robertwalker1001 totally agree with you, just starting that their marriage brings blood and name together. Was all for respecting the wishes of Corlys
@@robertwalker1001 Well, Vaemond wasn't the only one, don't know if the show will adapt it, but there were other Velaryons who made the same claim and got their tongues removed by Viserys' orders
Uh no
Alicent never realized King Viserys thought he was talking to Rhaenyra. She 💯% thinks he was talking to her and about her son. Which gives her a reason to go harder 💡💡
If vaemond really cared about blood he would also know that the bloodline of house velaryon would continue through the daughters who the boys will marry. So, he is just being too stubborn to be honest.
Yeah the whole "The house is going to disappear" argument kinda made no sense
You have to learn about feudalism before talking nonsense. Do you know the salic law? The new lord remains a bastard even if he marries a Velaryon it doesn't change anything.
@@ByuntaeOG two words: salic law.
Also, the boys are legally Velaryon. The next generation will have the name and the blood united so there was nothing to be worried about after that deal was announced. Vaemond really just wanted power and when he realized he'd been outplayed he lost it.
@@blackbird45 Did you miss the part of the show where the King declared his daughter his heir?
couple of info about this ep
yes valyrion exist in got univers but after the civil war and targarayn lost power they become a weak house so the show runner decide to cut them off ( they supported stannis baratheon) , at the dinner scene viserys was happy and sad because he realise that if he made other choices ( let deamon marry rhaenyra , heleana with jace ) a lot of things would be different, it's subtle but king viserys rotting side was on aalicent ( hightower side) when aemond snapped causs Luke was giggling when they put that pig infornt of him , feels like deamon see his young self in aemond and aemond admire daemon , the king thought he was talking to rhaenyra not aalicent he answered her when she asked him earlier in the ep ( them talking about the prince that was promised alomst every ep feels like a diss/ reminder that there's no possible way for arya to be the prince that was promised and D&D Were pure clown for doing that)
24:50 Daemon's like, dude I literally sliced a guy's head a few hours ago, do you really want to test me?
nah he's like "damn kid, you sure you ain't mine?"
What i find *so* interesting about the throne room scene is how everyone seems to assume the absolute worst from Alicent all the time. God forbid she's actually worried that man's gonna hurt himself on the way to the throne, god forbid she's worried about the man she's *still* being the care-taker for - sentiment illustrated by her immediately rushing to him and calling for help when he collapsed in his chair (since apparently her facial expressions are too hard to read). She literally isn't this unhinged heartless villain that does shit unprovoked that people want her to be; i almost wish she was, that way her character's reception would at least make some type of sense
Talking about "a father's gonna defend his daughter" and "blood over everything" even though that literally only applies to 1 out of like 6 of his family members (maybe 2). People don't have to be upset that Viserys only cares about Rhaenyra but we can stop pretending he's a family man
That dinner scene was a masterclass of building trepidation through melancholy. Viserys watching the kids in a last dance before the Dance. Fleeting moments of bliss. Everyone hoping for the best, expecting the worst. For something so uneventfully peaceful, the passing was one of the most foreboding & viscerally filmed deaths I've seen. Book Viserys also doses off to the great beyond in his bed, after telling stories to grandkids. The king who was most unlike Aegon the Conqueror in life ends up being most like the Conqueror in death.
Ok enough jokes. Now the serious stuff. "You're no son of mine" - Alicent getting crossbowed in the loo on mother's day confirmed lol. Ep 9 is The Green Council😱!! Cue the Hoes Mad beat😤!! Our religion, tradition & patriarchy upholder Queen Mother & our redpilled Homelander King will make Westeros great again🙃/s
Hoes won't *truly* be mad until Aegon II feeds his dragon
You spoiling ?
@@roachies4242 Yup Alicent will definitely get crossbowed in the shItter like Tywin 😉
@@roachies4242 no I'm pretty sure that was a joke bc Tywin used the exact same words to Tyrion before he shot him in GoT 4x10
Lol, better than forcefully putting your daughter in the throne against untold centuries of tradition, putting half the lords of the realm and most of the smallfolk against the ruler and provoking a civil war just so you can feel better about yourself like Viserys did.
He got most of his family killed, but at least he's like, feminist and shit, right? right???
Alicent thought Viserys was talking about their own son Aegon. In reality he thought he was still talking to Rhaenyra. Rhaenyra and Daemon have a child named Aegon as well. "The Prince that was Promised". Viserys was saying Aegon will take the throne, Rhaenyra's Aegon, Alicent confused that for her own kid. So she's gonna try to fulfill what she assumed was Viserys' final wish. It's probably gonna be what starts the war and ends the peace Rhaenyra and Alicent finally found at the dinner
They always got that Plan B tea ready
Your reactions are fantastic, you’re all so charismatic and charming. SUBSCRIBED
Paddy better get his Emmy, that's all I'm gonna say.
Vaemond has every right to be angry here. The male line of his house is on the precipice of extinction and he sees everyone around him (not the hightower faction obviously) casually accepting her illegitimate children taking over his ancestral home.
The house is not on the precipice of extinction though, there are plenty of Velaryons alive to carry on the lineage. Only the Head of the House would not be true Velaryon and even that would be corrected the following generation since the twins have Velaryon blood.
People vibe with tyranny as long as its sexy
@@ByuntaeOG Notice I said "Male line" of House Velaryon. A fact that's important in this world. And given the fact that I have hindsight since I read the source material, I know for a fact that House Velaryon doesn't last.
@@knivesmillions2913 Pretty sure House Velaryon still exists in ASOIAF. The don't play a major role but they are mentioned.
@@FullmetalPainThey're role is non existent so that's a moot point. My point still stands...Vaemond has every right to be pissed off at Rhaeneyra for effectively eradicating the male line of his family. That's an undeniable fact, he doesn't know Laenor is alive, and even if he did it wouldn't matter it's still partially her fault for not putting her desires aside and performing her duty.
now that season 2 is coming up, I'm rewatching your reactions and honestly, its so fun! and very smart insights as well!
What an amazing performance by Paddy, he deserves an Emmy x 10. Daemon helping his brother to the throne and then crowning him was epic.
One thing I want to point out, Luke, Jace and Joffery are not bastards. A bastard is a child born outside of marriage. Those children were born inside of a marriage and Laenor accepted them as his true born sons and so did Corlys.
Wrong. Those children are indeed bastards. Acceptance means nothing. Jace, Luke, and Joffery are not Verlaryan blood 🩸 Sorry. Ser Laenor should of just knocked up Rhaenyra, and this would would have been all avoided. I know he was gay, but he still should of gave her children. He had a duty to fulfill ... And he even owned up to it before he left with his lover.
@@Mr102185 Didn't they say they tried and his swimmers were just bad? I am pretty sure there was a mention in one of the episodes that they did try.
@@jos-josradvanji6203 I wrote a comment about the misuse of the word bastard in the show and in the books I imagine. By definition a bastard is a child born out of wedlock. But my comment seems to have disappeared. Oh well. They're not going to change GRRM's interpretation but he should know better. Rhaenyra's children may have been born to a different father but they are the legal children of that marriage. The King declared it, Ser Leanor declared it, Lord Corlys declared it.
@@lilysinfonia6457 I don't know why you write to me tbh. I was talking to Brandon who said Ser Leanor should've knocked her up at least and then left. And I remembered that in one of the episodes they had a talk where it was mentioned that they did try and it just didn't work. So I answered him with that. I wasn't questioning what your original comment said at all o-o
@@jos-josradvanji6203 Ooops sorry, I hit the wrong reply button, lol.
the sea snake isn't dead he's injured and with a fever. As for house Valerons, they didn't appear in the show but they exit but are weaker because they most likely sided with the mad king and not Robert. in the books, they sided with Stannis until the blackwater bay battle then bent the knee to Joffrey then betrayed and robbed the shit out of them
Here’s the thing! Vaemond was right about trying to protect his line and keep his line pure! However Corlys LITERALLY built driftmark and the navy. Corlys didn’t care that Luke wasn’t biologically related to him. He still wanted Luke to inherit Driftmark. To try to usurp the throne against your brothers wishes while he’s hurt but still alive is just snake ish! I wish he didn’t do that because we need as many black people on this show as possible.
Vaemond didn't deserve to lose his inheritance to Rhaenerya's illegitimate sons
@@theawesomeman9821 if it was his inheritance to begin with I could see what you’re saying! It was always Luke’s inheritance.
@@ev2155 by Westrosi law Vaemond was entitled to it but the king was bias for his family and perverted justice
@@theawesomeman9821 seems like you’re biased!
@@ev2155 I'm against ruthless people who take things away from those who deserve it
The king straight up defied death long enough to try his best to fix the family
Daemon really had his brother/father-in law's back.
Easily the best episode of the show so far. Paddy Constadine's Viserys almost made me cry, what a fantastic performance
Stares in Dr Umar 😂😂 These edits are killing me!
Alicent doesn't know anything about The Song of Fire and Ice Prophecy. She assumed he was just talking about their son, so now Alicent is going harder to put him on the throne.
No Alicent didn't realize what he was saying was for Rhaenyra. She just took King Viserys words the wrong way! Alicent is not a Targaryen so she don't know anything about Ageon the conquer's dream of fire and ice or the Prince that was promised aka Jon Snow. So now she thinks King Virseys wants their son Ageon to be heir to the throne. All she heard was the words Prince and Ageon and thinks that was his last request! So now cuz of that misunderstanding all hell gonna brake loose! 🤦🏾♂️
Respect on Vaemond fr. He knew what was up, and spoke the truth novody wanted to hear. A true Velaryon.
He spoke the stupid that got him killed.
Viserys was really progressive for his time, he ended a succession dispute by asking the sea snakes wife lol
9:55 one of the rare times that Lupa notices very subtle details.
26:40 I think Viserys meant Aegon Targaryen (Jon Snow) as the prince who was promised in the prophecy of ice and fire because he was the only Targaryen who gathered the people to confront the Night King.🤯
If vaemond cared about blood he would have let baela get the drift throne instead of wanting it for himself
you have to learn about Salic law and feudal society before talking nonsense. Do you know the salic law? In any case the new lord remains a bastard, he compromises the line no matter that he marries a Velaryon according to Salic law women cannot claim any succession.
Baela will only be wife of the lord of the tides, its still strong bastard who will rule. Their son will be actual velaryon on the throne. So for entire generation an enemy will rule his ancestral home, its not a easy thing to swallow. He should pretend to be ok with it and have the kid assasinated shortly after.
Exactly!
Then Driftmark would pass to the Targaryens, like there would be: House Targaryen of the Iron Throne and House Targaryen of Driftmark
@@hectormiranda1088 It wouldn't. Luke/Lucerys only would be called Targaryen if he sits on the iron throne. His children which would have Velaryon blood would be Velaryons
They are just having him drink raw opium milk as heroin in processed opium.
I loved the reactions. Especially that you all caught about how deep Viserys's love in for not only family but his daughter. You don't get a lot in shows / movies, but a good father's love is just as deep as a good mother's love. I cried that whole scene KNOWING he was so far gone with Leprosy, in pain and near death yet the strength of his love for his daughter and her asking for his help proved that a good dad no matter how far gone will aid his daughter. A father's love is a father's love. Just as there is no love like a mother for her son. There is no love like a father for his daughter. The look his daughter gave him as he glanced at her broke me. The admiration and thankfulness pour out of her expression. That is all a dad needs. Daemon helping his brother shows yes. He loves his brother. For the first time him seeing his brother so broken was the first time he even stumbled with words at sight of his brother. Daemon never loses it, but you could see in his expression and face that he truly hurt from his brother's condition.
Yall editor on another level! Even down to the screen being blurry until lupa put his glasses on. Underrated frfr
15:20 oh i love them mistakingly calling Godrick Godfrey, only to then mistake Margit for Godrick :')
The cut to Umar sent me 😂
First time watching y’all’s channel, love it! Also, your lady friend sitting on the couch with y’all is GORGEOUS ✨her eye makeup is bomb 💣
Daemon was looking at aemond like "boy I invented this game...I'm basically you" even their names are anagrams of each other
19:02 Sheera's reaction here is like Todd from The Boys when Homelander lasers that dude 🤣
Paddy Constintine masterclass acting. Give him an Oscar already!
Daemon always saw Viserys as weak but when he helped him to the throne he finally realised what makes his brother strong, his loyalty and love for his daughter.
Viserys walk to the throne reminded me a lot of Cuba Gooding Jr's walk in Men of Honor
If Rhaenyra's kids marry daemon's daughters, the blood Velaryon would just come back to the throne that's why Rhaenys accepted it
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the editor is too fire lmfao
great reaction
“Glares in Dr. Umar” is the funniest shit I’ve ever seen
Velaryons were not mentioned in Game of Thrones but were still around in the books. They answered to Stannis as he was Master of Ships under Robert and they still controlled half of the realm’s navy.
It’s so sad to think this will escalate further due to a misinterpretation, and the fact the boys are now holding the grudges the moms seemed to let go of for a second.
Also I really hope this Aemond actor sticks around for a while.
Man I love Aemond so much. His family is hot trash but he's my favorite character.
@@RabidDogma I love and hate his character. Like I felt so bad for the dude getting picked on, then the second he gets the biggest dragon, he went full douchelord lol.
I feel like he’s going to face off against Daemon at some point.
@@mirrorrorrim Yea, there's no way they can change actors for any character from here. There shouldn't be any timejumps left since the war is starting in the next 2 episodes. Aemond's actor is fucking perfect, I love how much emotion and character he can put into the one eye. I've read the book and let me tell you, the final battle between Aemond and Daemon is gonna be the greatest battle in tv history.
Vaemond wants Driftmark for his own and Hightowers want him there so they can control the Velaryon fleet. He is a second son and hence was very sure this time he can finally inherit something. It's his brother Corlys wealth and Corlys will. Corlys made Driftmark. It's not a Velaryon house property. It's Corlys alone so it will go whoever he chooses. Vaemond would have been a usurper. And not to mention Corlys is still alive.
Vaemon is the heir of Corlys because his grandchildren are bastards and cannot claim the succession. When the lord or king has no male children, his next of kin inherits. Feudal society is governed by Salic law, king or lord, there are laws that they themselves cannot supplant as he said, Viserys breaks the law. And he's right. His claims as heir and legal and he has the right to assert it since the heirs are bastards.
paddy killed it man. not only did i really enjoy his performance, but this episode hit so hard for me since my father passed some months ago and he too was the one always getting the fam together. and that head slice was one of the cleanest kills in the series imo, awesome episode
7 pointed star necklace alicent wears is for the faith of the seven. A lot of the members of the faith are requesting more funds.
The models are all old and got spiderwebs on them and cobwebs he hasn’t touched them in a long time.
They focus on the scar that alicent gave rhaenyra.