I hated aliscent in this episode, you forced this on ur child, and never even tried to show him one or two, you just dumped what you already know is going to be a bad king on the throne he never wanted. Now you're abusing him
Rhanerya couldn't have known rhanys was going to die or Cole's plan, because she offered herself to go, so does it mean she was going to commit suicide?
32:07 to sheera points; Another thing to notice is how alicent, shurks off her duties from time to time...at crucial moments; Absent mother from aegons life, absent at the council meeting.... to put it in another way, her father was the primary schemer, while she mostly played a hand in her inaction... she has this kind of virtue complex about her, in comparison to rhaenyra, and always has... This whole show has demonstrated how the hightowers are a thorn in the side of house targaryen....because the only major ppl that have died have mostly been targaryeons...as a whole it's been targaryens and 2 loyal soldier to said house... But nun of the hightowers have yet to lose any of their ppl....
Daemon was the only one who offered a PROPER plan to end the war before it began killing dragons. Meleys and Caraxes would have taken down Vhagar. You reap what you sow. Also they should have sent other dragons even if it was to scout/observe - sending a lone dragon was the dumbest thing they could do.
That wasn't a suicide mission, neither Rhaenyra or her council were expecting to have a dragon battle on Rooks Rest, that was Cole's plan, it was a trap
It is war so anything at this point may as well be and yes nobody knew the plan except aemond and cole but regardless Rhaenyra did not want to send out anybody on dragon back because of the threat vhagar is as she lost a son already
@@ajithrajaful because the dragon hasn't been at the other battles and this one is relatively insignificant. they probably didn't expect it but they still figured it was a possibility.
Same with Aegon. He thought he was just gonna show up and help out with the siege. Only Cole and Aemond had planned for an actual dragon battle to take place
Yall got it wrong. Cole and Aemonds plan was to let them send a dragon and attack it with Vhagar. Aegon was not supposed to be there. It was a trap. But Aemond used it as an opportunity to kill two dragons with one stone. Rhaenyra did not think Rhaenys was going to die she just didn’t want to send her closest advisor
@@moysterxI don’t think Aegon wanted to play hero. Ppl keep forgetting about what Daemon did. It’s probably that Aegon wanted to get revenge for his child’s beheading and no one was giving him that chance. So he took it for himself and wasn’t privy to the plans they had behind his back. It’s kinda tragic to be fair
@@CATTingle Aegon had his own kids in the fighting pits to die lol He's more concerned with looking weak than his dead child which seems obvious. All he whined about after was how Rhae must be laughing at him.
@@johans3164 No it's Viserys. He had so many options, Marry Rhaenyra to Daemon and name Daemon heir. Marry Aegon to Rhaenyra and name either of them heir. Or hell, he could've even changed the laws so that a woman can legally inherit the throne so Rhaenyra has a better claim. Viserys was not the worst Targaryen king, but he definitely was the smartest.
Sunfyre had to do some extra English homework to understand Aegon's drunk ass 🤣. Though in fairness, I really like how they showed that there is a bond of affection between Aegon and Sunfyre. Wish we had more scenes with the both of them.
@@aimanmarzuqi4804 Big spoilers below Both sunfyre and aegon survive the fall but sunfyre is heavily maimed and unable to fly, which is probably what Allicent dropping the figurine and the wing breaking off eludes to. We will probably get a few more scenes with Aegon and Sunfyre.
Daemon's visit to Harrenhall has been so hilarious to me 😂 I'm half expecting him to storm out next episode, waving Dark Sister around, yelling "I'm getting the FUCK out of this cursed place, I'm going Mad here!!"
Alicent is such a terrible mom bro lmao. Why did she think telling him to do nothing was a good idea? She could've used that as a perfect opportunity to really change Aegon for the better after clearly not being in his life prior to him becoming king.
I think that was pretty clear in s2ep2 when Aegon was bawling for his dead son and Alicent did/said nothing to comfort him, but it makes complete sense and is passed down because of how little Otto gave a damn about listening to her problems lol. But yeah, definitely better ways she could've handled telling Aegon to learn from others. It really wasn't necessary to add things like "maybe you'll be half a king your dad was" and "do nothing". Delivery is really important.
I feel like y’all missed it but the conversation between Aemond & Aegon during the council meeting WAS meant to embarrass Aegon…because he can’t speak High Valyrian lol. It wasn’t Aegon just wanting war - he literally couldn’t respond back in HV because he can’t speak it fluently (which Aemond knew.) I DO think Aegon can understand it for the most part though. Aemond wanted to embarrass Aegon by demonstrating to the council their “Targaryen ruler/the eldest son” can’t even speak the language the Targaryen’s are known for.
Yeah, Aegons brother embarrassed him with his language skills and his mother was mad at him for getting rid of his dad's books, he realized that everyone thinks he is a dummy
Wait, Aegon is older than Aemon? I thought the reason Aemon resent him was because he was passed over by his younger brother, like Daemon was passed over by his niece Rhaenrya? Edit: you're right, damn Aemon looks old AF on the show. And it's not just the eye patch. His facial features are the cause.
Rhaenys chose to stay because of Rhaenyra's situation. The little support she has needs her dragons to defend them. Rhaenys knows this. She represents the queen as one of her dragonriders so she can't flee. "If the Queen flees at the first sign of trouble, why should we support her against these overwhelming odds?" Also, as Aemond said, Rook's Rest is vital since the Blacks losing it cuts Dragonstone off from Westeros. The blacks must defend it. Lastly, Meleys is the Blacks best dragon. She's the most capable of harming Vhagar. Aegon & Aemond falling would be a huge victory despite the risk. Rhaenys knew this and bravely fought.
only fools would have attacked Vhagar alone. In order to kill Vhagar you need Meleys+Caraxex+some other dragon just to be sure. Even if you lose 2 dragons, but still manage to kill Vhagar, I'd say its appropriate outcome for the battle. Rhaenys needed to come back to dragonstone, get some help from other dragonriders and pretty much win the war right here, right now
Not to mention, since Daemon is gone and they (understandably) won't risk Jace or Rhaenyra in a fight, the only other riders are Rhaenys, or...Baela. Grandma Rhaenys protects her grand babies 💖
@@Kishinist yeah, strategically the best choice would be for Rhaenys to return to dragonstone, even if the blacks lost some reputation for it. Aegon, the king himself went down, that's already a huge win
@Kishinist in the books, it was implied that if it was a 1v1 between Meleys and Vhagar, then Meleys could have stood a chance. Yes, Vhagar is the largest and has brute strength, but she's also the slowest, and Meleys is the fastest dragon in the realm. I do want to mention that there is also Vermithor. He is the second largest dragon at the time of the dance and does pose a threat to Vhagar.
I just realized, with the two omens. The first omen when Alicent dropped the dragon, it broke off a wing, yet it was intact. Signifying Aegon’s dragon. At the end it was still alive, barely, with Aegon TBD. The second omen is with Rhaenys. When Aegon tipped over the dragon jug, it shattered completely, signifying Rhaenys and Meleys’ death.
The bond between Aegon and Sunfyre is so profound. He doesn't even speak to his dragon in High Valeriyan, but Sunfyre understands. Also protecting him in Vaghars DRACARYS and from the fall.
You dont have to speak high valryian to dragons, thats just what they do. Its the same way a pet dog only understands the language of its owner. Most dragon riders and dragon Guards speak high Valyrian to their dragons, but they dont have to we’ve seen dragons can understand common tongue
@@KTS.there is a magical aspect to it, daenrys dragons seemed to know high Valyrian as hatchlings for example it wouldnt burn its food to eat without daenrys saying drakaerys first
@@The_Muncher2017 In the books, Daenerys purposely chose the word "dracarys" to teach the dragons when to shoot fire as no one will say it accidentally. She taught them that command so it wasn't innate.
The sad thing about the dragons is that meleys and vhagar were daemon and Viserys parent's dragon, the dragons were very close, flied together Many time they have a bond and now they're tearing each other apart, and on top of that vhagar was her daughter dragon, and they k!lled her on her birthday
@@kikikim4589 The true victims of this war were the dragons they had no choice and it directly led to their decline and extinction until dany brings them back.
I don't think Vhagar cares for anyone other than her rider, she's been through so much and is literally impatient for war, I think dragons when bonded share the feelings of their riders, and Aemond gave no shits about Rhaenys or Meleys, but idk.
Dragons battling over the coast, secret love children rising in status, and discussions on what it means to rule. Meanwhile Daemon is tripping balls with a witch and encouraging a kid to smother his grandpa
The dragon riders can’t just abandon the houses that are fighting for them because a scarier dragon shows up. Rhaenyra did not know Rhaenys was going to die. The look was simple concern for going into battle because of course.
Poor Aegon. Didn't want to become king, didn't want any of this shit, but the hightower putted him on the throne cause they're fucking idiots and now he gets trashed by everyone (included his mother and brother) and almost dies
I like that this show actually shows that it takes a long time to get from place to place. The passage of time is really felt. You can also see who's dragons are battle tested and who isn't. Meleys has really good strategy when fighting. Not the biggest but this claws and talons are super sharp.
@@Xero-rr2ol What battles has she been in? It is in this same show that they said the realm has been in times of peace for 80 years. So when did Meleys fight in battles against other dragons? When did Rheanys fight?
@@rexibhazoboa7097 Meleys wasn't in any official wars, but she protected the Velaryon fleet regularly. They have to have run into trouble from time to time. It's speculated that she may have assisted in the Stepstones or in the revenge for Rhaenys' father's death on Tarth. Who knows? But she is the oldest of the Black dragons, so she's considered the most experienced in general.
I feel really bad for Aegon. He was an insufferable frat boy, but, he did not want to be king and even admitted that he was not fit. After they made him king they made fun of him for being bad at it and got his son killed. When he was crying over the death of his son, his mother walked away and ended up with Cole.
He's a rapist, that's a bit more than just "an insufferable frat boy." No one made him accept the crown, he was just too stupid to realize that committing treason comes with consequences.
@@shantel903he never forced his children to fight. He doesn’t even know they exist. The mothers are the ones that put them in there. The actor himself said Aegon didn’t know. Doesn’t mean he isn’t an ass to watch the kids fight though. But people have done worse, like killing thousands of small folk in a dragon pit just to make a scene
@@shantel903Those children do not fight in the pits and he doesn’t even know they exist. That doesn’t make him remotely a good person, but what you’re claiming is plainly false.
Rhaenyra didn't know the Greens would have sent a dragon. Her initial idea was to go herself. They all expect the Greens to keep their dragons at Kingslanding to protect themselves. It's why Aemond and Cole's plan is kinda ingenious. The whole attack on Rooks Rest is to lure a dragon out of Dragonstone, painting a massive target on Cole and the main Green Army. Only for Aemond and his tactical nuke of a dragon to annihilate any dragon sent by the Blacks.
one of the things I've really liked is the bonds between these targaryans and their dragons. Specifically the scene of Aegon preparing with Sunfyre, like even Aegon has an otherworldly relationship with this living nuke. Really cool and gives him a little credit because at the end of the day he IS one of them.
credit to Cole for instantly seeing Aegon's dragon and thinking "Sh!t. I gotta spin this. HOLD TO YOUR COURAGE! HOLD TO YOUR WITS! YOUR KING HAS COME TO YOUR AID!!!"
The scenes of aemond talking in high valyrian to his brother was to show us that aegon doesn't speak it and can say just few words which means he's unfit to be a Targaryen king, and he's more of a Hightower , he doesn't Care about his Targaryen blood or history
@@rexibhazoboa7097, he also doesn't care about his family's history. Didn't you hear when Aegon said he had his family history books removed? He's not fit due to many things. Not embracing his heritage as a Targaryen is one of them. A big one of them. ALL Targaryens know High Valyrian and are versed in their family's history. Aegon's the first not to give a shit. That says something.
@@thatoneblackdude3333 Not really, every part of Essos speak a different language that was derived from a dialect of High Valyrian; it's like saying that Latin is the same as Italian, Spanish, Portuguese or French
You guys always have great reactions but kudos to you guys for being one of the few reactors to actually understand Aegon's character & motivate regarding wanting to proof himself.
Gotta say, Aegon's an asshole, but he doesn't deserve half, well maybe 40% of the treatment he received from his council and family, especially Alicent. He really was trying his best to be a good king
He's also a serial "non-consensual intimate time"-ist, and bets on his illegitimate children fighting in the pits in Fleabottom...imo, he deserves everything coming to him... Sunfyre is goodest Boi tho 💖
It would be easier to pity Aegon if he didn't start the previous season by raping a woman and watching kids fight to the death in some kind of underground illegal arena.
Right? I felt bad for him tho even in season one he said he dont wanna be king, yet now they dont want him to be their king, yes he is stupid guy, but he actually try now, even he ask alicent"what should I do, mother "and alicent just tell him do nothing, I felt so bad for him cause everyone is turning against him and no one really try to help him grow now
I don't get where you guys are getting Rhaenyra and co thinking Rhaenys was going on a suicide mission. It's pretty clear that no one expected the Greens to give up their strongest defence of King's Landing and send them to a little castle battle.
Guys, Rhaenyra would NEVER have sent Rhaenys if she knew Aegon's army would send out a dragon like Vhagar to the battlefield since he usually protects Kings Landing lol. She didn't want to send Jace because he's literally inexperienced and also she didn't want to lose another son so quickly to war. She was completely confident in Rhaenys. NOBODY expected Aemond to show up, nor did they expect Aegon to show up. Losing a dragon is a MASSIVE loss for either side.
That's what bothers me. I feel like Daemon would've anticipated Vhagar would likely be there if he was still on the council. It would be a suicide mission for Cole to not have a dragon there since dragonstone is just across the bay and they should have prepared for that possibility.
I think that she knew that was a possibility, that's why she sent her biggest dragon. They were backed into a corner. If Daemon was there, he would have went with Rhaenys. In my opinion Rhaenys and Rhaenyra knew it was a suicide mission.
25:52 At first I didn’t understand why she kept turning back but I think that’s exactly why. It was war and at that moment Rhaenys wasn’t a princess, she was a soldier. Her mission/duty was to protect the castle and do as much damage to the enemy as she could, no matter what. Plus taking Vhagar out was wayyy too important. Who knows when or if Daemon would return? Rhaenys had to keep trying right then and there. Besides, Meleys was doing extremely well in the battle. She absolutely obliterated Sunfyre and won that first 1v1 with Vhagar. She still had a fairly decent chance to do some serious damage. I think the outcome would’ve been very different if Aemond didn’t go for that sneak attack. The situation was extremely complex but I think that’s the core of it. She had to keep fighting no matter what. Rhaenys was my favorite character in the show and Meleys was my favorite dragon and the coolest looking one imo. I wish they had retreated, but I understand why they didn’t. Rip Rhaenys the queen who should have been.
@@seanypark505 let's just say, I support Tywin's mindset. Daemon and Caraxes chilling in Harrenhol, now Meleys is dead. How many dreagons Blacks have? 4? 5? Loosing Rhaenys, when she clearly could have escaped after defeating Aegon is pure catastrophy
@@Kishinistno, Vaghar isn’t supposed to be killed by 2-3 dragons. The ‘historians’ stated that Meleys alone would take out Vaghar and she would have done a lot more damage or killed Vaghar if it wasn’t for that sneak attack.
@@Kishinistthey still have that red worm 🪱💀💀💀 i hope he doesn’t disappoint, the showrunners have been giving him too much screen time let’s hope it all for something worthy
My dad often falls asleep whenever we watch shit together but this episode was the first time he asked to rewatch a part because he missed the dragon fight
I normally have a similar problem with my mom, but she's normally really good about staying awake for House of the Dragon. She fell asleep while watching this episode though right before the Dragon fight. I had no issue rewinding for her to watch.
Rhaenys was not going back a second time, when she turned Meleys around, they were heading back towards Dragonstone, which was across the water. That's why Aemond and Vhagar hid there.
I’m team black all the way, but I feel the most sorry for Aegon. People say he craves power when really he just wants love. The few times we see him truly happy is with his son, and now that his boy is dead we see that only his dragon Sunfyre fills that role. Alicent and the other green members act like Aegon owes them some huge favor and that he should be greatful, but he didn’t want that role, he screamed he didn’t want to be king. And now they all belittle him because he isn’t the perfect puppet. Aegon feels way too deeply and he drinks to numb himself from his front emotions. Alicent said literally the worst words to him when he asked for help. It was sad too when he just told her that he just moved the books and not had them destroyed, she really is a terrible mother.
She is the one who had beaten her son when he said he won't challenge his sister's claim. She is the one who said Aegon can bully his brother but just in private, he didn't have to do it in front of other people especially Rhaenyra's children. Why are we still acting surprised she is a shitty mother?
29:54 Aegon didn't left when they were talking about the battle he left when they were talking about other business. Nobody knew about the plan except Aemond and Cole not even council so Yes they moved without telling him.
I don’t think that rhaenys declared herself dead, but she knew that she had to biggest dragon and was the best rider, she had the best chance to take out vhagar, and also it was her mission to make sure that they didn’t take the castle.
I feel like Daemon demanding to be called “your grace” isn’t treason cause you generally would call a queen “your grace” in this world afaik and a king consort is basically that
Wow y'all are good, It didn't clcik in my head that the dragon imagery being destroyed was foreshadowing. The one Alicent drops symbolizes Sunfyre being wounded and the dragon glassware that Aegon knocked over symbolizes Meleys dying. I didn't catch that the first time I watched this episode! Like, I knew who was going to die this episode because I'm familiar with the source material, like as soon as they mentioned Rooks Rest, I knew, oh yeah, they're going to die here. I just didn't catch the foreshadowing in those specific scenes.
Translation of what Rhaenyra said to Daemon It’s been said that Targaryens are closer to gods than men… In my eyes, you were a god. Daemon Targaryen. The Prince of the City. The Lord of Flea Bottom. I was an innocent. You exploited me and abandoned me. You sullied my name at court. You empowered my rivals. You tried to make my ruin. You put me on that throne. And you love me and you hate me for it. You created me, Daemon. Yet you are now set on destroying me. All because your brother loved me more than he did you. This is what you always wanted, is it not?”
Makes no sense Rhaenyra sullied her own name, empowered her rivals, and made her ruin by having bastards. Daemon isn't set on destroying her either. The show is so inconsistent with Daemon its ridiculous.
@@lucasbelmonte2832 I take it as daemon regret telling her to enjoy life and it's his subconscious telling him that everything is happing to her it's because of him
@@lucasbelmonte2832 This is his own subconscious so this is what HE thinks he did. Plus, they both contributed and did those things, it wasn't one or the other.
@@lucasbelmonte2832rhenyreas name was not sullied prior to blood and cheese daemon did that , debatable, her sons have nothing to do with her situation and is not a issue only the greens care about her sons .
youu guys caught the dragons dropping omens more than even easter egg channels did! they only even mentioned the model, but the two different dragons signified the 2 falling from the sky
Daemon's side quest isn't that wasteful because he already knows the Riverlands are key to winning the war since the Lannisters (and Westerlands) and Hightowers (and The Reach) are on the side of the greens. Harrenhal is the largest castle so he's trying to have another stronghold. In the first episode this season Alicent thought that Aegon would kind of get over being king but since his son was killed, Aegon has been acting irrationally (in her eyes) so she is lashing out on him. The plan was always to kind of make Aegon a puppet until he got some sense but when he fired Otto that's when he got her pubes all tinged.
Shera is giving Rhaenyra way too much credit. Cole baited them and they bit hard. Rhaenyra did not know that Rhanys will die, she wasn’t expecting a dragon fight.
which is honestly kinda weird they didnt expect or even consider the possibility of dragon being there. I get they wanted to shock people and on purpose didnt talk about that but still, in universe it's HUGE mistake, maybe even the biggest they made
calling himself King isn't exactly wrong if you look in the perspective correctly. Alicent was called Queen and Your Grance while being married to Viserys. So was Cersei and Margery in GoT.
Bruv. His Queen herself calls him prince and not king. So what right does he have to give himself a higher title than what his ruler gives him? There is a reason king consorts are called princes and not kings. King is a higher title than Queen, so if a Queen sits the throne, she cannot have her king consort be called King as that gives him more authority than her. And only a King and Queen are called Your Grace. King consort/princes are not called that so no, Daemon is doing something wrong.
@@rexibhazoboa7097 Sir Alfred literally says the only people that can command the Council is the Queen, the King Consort, and the Hand. Why would he list a title that doesn't exist?
@@dejajade6726 I did not say it doesnt exist. I said King consorts arent referred to as "Your Grace" Because that's reserved for the King, the Queen and the Queen consort.
@@happyslapsgiving5421 Well there’s Eragon and How to train your dragon as well as the 1 fight in Game of thrones that you couldn’t see because its too dark. Among those this is the best and HTTYD is animation so in terms of live action this is the best.
3:12 The thing about the title: "Your Grace" can also be used to address the consort of a reigning monarch. For example, Daemon Targaryen should technically be called "Your Grace" since he is the king consort, married to Rhaenyra, the Queen. However, in modern monarchies, this practice is not commonly followed. For instance, in the United Kingdom, Prince Philip was not called King because the title of King is considered higher than that of Queen. But he was still addressed as "Your Grace" because he was also a duke.😅 Or better " Your Royal Highness"
right? I don't know why people are questioning that, alicent was a queen consort to viserys and they address her as "queen" with your grace, she's a queen dowager now they still address her as your grace. daemon should be addressed with your grace
Rhaenys had to defend Rook's Rest. It was mentioned that it was an important mainland area for Dragonstone/Team Black but I also think that she kept going to try to injure/kill Vhagar to give Team Black an advantage in the war to come. She stayed longer to confirm the kill and mission. She said it herself that her dragon has battle experience and the largest they had... but she went in knowing it was a battle to the death. I still wish they survived. Her and her dragon exchanging last looks hurt so much 😭 Fucking granny Vhagar with her sneak attacks and the plan to draw out a team black dragon worked. Theres so many things we could pick at on lack of planning and patience for both sides but the point of this fight was to show how devastating dragon war is.
If she flees it could be a bad look on team black and turn some supporters away. If she stays she could potentially end the biggest issue in the war (granny Vhagar) and save her loved ones from having to take on Vhagar. She could also be considering what everyone's been saying about why she didn't end it when she had the chance. Her death can also be the push and precaution that Team Black needs.
No one knew about the plan (Vhagar ambush) except for Aemond and Cole, not even the council. Aegon was pushed to go because of the way Alicent has been treating him. He never wanted to be king and he Expressed it many times , he even said he's not fit to rule. Yet they dragged him and made him King without even guiding him properly nor training him to rule. So I don't really blame Aegon for feeling frustrated especially when everyone is making him feel Insignificant, they just want him to sit and do nothing while they manipulate everything... I feel bad for him
Rhaanyra did not know Rhaenys was going to die because nobody knew that Criston had a trap laid out for them, Rhaenyra just wanted to handle things swiftly using one of the dragons but was caught lacking
I don't think Rhaenys intended to die, she just knew that if a dragon has to go, it makes sense to be her. Rhaenyra is the Queen, Jace is her heir and Rhaenys knows that she would never risk another son. She knows that she's the best option, they wouldn't sacrifice one of the best allies and one of the biggest dragons for nothing. My guess for why Rhaenys turns around knowing she'll prob die is because she'd take even a small chance of ending the war here. She's been behind Rhaenyra's pushes for peace. She's willing to put her life on the line for a shot at killing Vhagar (her dragon did do a bit of damage after all!) or a more likely way of winning would be to kill Aemond. She takes the chance, knew it was curtains the second she sees Vhagar, but tries her best because theres just the smallest chance she can draw or at least seriously damage Vhagar for her team
Not to mention, since Rhaenyra and Jace are mostly off the table as fighters, and Daemon is currently gone, it's either Rhaenys or Baela...grandma Rhaenys protects her grand babies 💖
Rhaenys put up a good fight she didn't want to go back home because she knew there would be a slim chance she could've beat Aemond and Vhagar and take out the greens wincon and she was willing to take that risk for it but I'm 100% certain if Meleys and Vhagar had continued to 1 v 1 head on Meleys would've won, the fact that she use her speed to fly under Vhagar then got caught, clawed her up, then manage to take Vhagar the second biggest dragon to the ground with her then manage to fly back up was very impressive,Vhagar only won due to cheap shot tactics by Aemond going behind the mountain and waiting.
I feel disgusting for even saying this but I kinda feel bad for Aegon. On one hand he actually seems to want to rule, we can tell from how he acted with the small folk. But everyone around him just sees him as a pawn and some dumb useless kid. Which he is. But no one actually cares enough to teach him how to rule. They just wanna use him
I didn't think I would feel pity for Aegon in this, but I do. Aemond's use of High Valarian during the council meeting showed that Aegon's understanding of the language is basic at best, it is clear that he didn't study it as well as his brother, just like he didn't learn many things, and then to have Alicent basically tell him he was taught just enough to be her, the council's and Otto's puppet, it was no wonder that he lashed out so foolishly.
I think some people are missing the complexity in Aegon's character. I think he doesn't care about the histories or ruling because he was never considered for that position. Of course he never took that seriously because Viserys probably didn't share the importance of it the way he did with Rhaenyra (his heir). If Aegon was prepped and guided by Viserys from the start, Aegon would have felt worthy/ important of something and he would've likely taken it seriously. When everyone thought Viserys would name Aegon as heir, remember how aimless Rhaenyra became. "No one is here for me." That's basically Aegon's whole life. Aemond is only more educated because he was bullied and that drove him to prove himself. And what people miss is that Alicent wasn't imparting wisdom in that scene. She wasn't saying shut up and learn. She was saying, shut up because you have nothing useful to contribute. I'm not surprised Aegon lashed out either...
Why is Allicent being blamed? Sleeping with Criston Cole did not cause any royal to be killed. Criston is Allicent’s sworn protector, if he was doing his duty he wiould be by Allicent’s door. He would not be able to stop the murder. Cole’s plan was also not discussed at the council, if Allicent was at that meeting it would have changed nothing.
No, Rhaenyra did not expect Rhaenys to die. If anything she knew Rhaenys and Meleys are battle tested and if anyone was going to survive a dragon fight it would be her. That's why she actually told her son he lacked experience she was truthful with that, if he had experience, she would have let him go. She came to the conclusion that it's war or death, sparing her son from battle is not on her mind, she sent the babies away, if she wanted to spare him, she would have forced him to leave too.
Wow that’s a great catch with the toy dragon Alicent dropped and the yellow dragon cup Aegon dropped that both shattered/broke. Great foretelling I didn’t catch and haven’t heard anyone else mention either.
Dragons clash!
Team black forever 🗣️🗣️🗣️
I hated aliscent in this episode, you forced this on ur child, and never even tried to show him one or two, you just dumped what you already know is going to be a bad king on the throne he never wanted. Now you're abusing him
Rhanerya couldn't have known rhanys was going to die or Cole's plan, because she offered herself to go, so does it mean she was going to commit suicide?
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32:07 to sheera points;
Another thing to notice is how alicent, shurks off her duties from time to time...at crucial moments;
Absent mother from aegons life, absent at the council meeting.... to put it in another way, her father was the primary schemer, while she mostly played a hand in her inaction... she has this kind of virtue complex about her, in comparison to rhaenyra, and always has...
This whole show has demonstrated how the hightowers are a thorn in the side of house targaryen....because the only major ppl that have died have mostly been targaryeons...as a whole it's been targaryens and 2 loyal soldier to said house...
But nun of the hightowers have yet to lose any of their ppl....
Daemon over there playing Luigi’s Mansion while all Hell breaks loose is KILLING me 💀😭
WOW LMFAOOOOOO
Brother really got Drank from a witch and had a horrible trip 😂😂😂
Not Luigi's Mansion 💀💀💀
Not Luigi’s Mansion
😂😂😂
everyone plotting acts of war and daemon is in he’s own horror movie 😭
Because when daemon was trying plot acts of wars everybody kept telling him to stop
Daemon was the only one who offered a PROPER plan to end the war before it began killing dragons. Meleys and Caraxes would have taken down Vhagar. You reap what you sow. Also they should have sent other dragons even if it was to scout/observe - sending a lone dragon was the dumbest thing they could do.
Daemon is the only one making sense now
@@joaorodoRhaenyra and Rhaenys would’ve never allowed Baella and Jacaerys to fly with them to battle
Literally the SpongeBob side plot meme lol
Aegon: Is friendly fire on?
Aemond: Lemme check
😂
lmfao
😂😂
Bruh🤣🤣🤣🤣
💀💀💀
That wasn't a suicide mission, neither Rhaenyra or her council were expecting to have a dragon battle on Rooks Rest, that was Cole's plan, it was a trap
nope not Cole, Cole is stupid. remember his twin infiltration plan? this was all Aemond. Aemond is the smart one
yep, even alicent wasn't aware aemond would join Cole in the battlefield
It is war so anything at this point may as well be and yes nobody knew the plan except aemond and cole but regardless Rhaenyra did not want to send out anybody on dragon back because of the threat vhagar is as she lost a son already
@@ajithrajaful because the dragon hasn't been at the other battles and this one is relatively insignificant. they probably didn't expect it but they still figured it was a possibility.
Same with Aegon. He thought he was just gonna show up and help out with the siege. Only Cole and Aemond had planned for an actual dragon battle to take place
Yall got it wrong. Cole and Aemonds plan was to let them send a dragon and attack it with Vhagar. Aegon was not supposed to be there. It was a trap. But Aemond used it as an opportunity to kill two dragons with one stone. Rhaenyra did not think Rhaenys was going to die she just didn’t want to send her closest advisor
Sunfire is no match against Vaghor...Aegon wanted to play hero and got his ass toasted by his own brother.
@@moysterxI don’t think Aegon wanted to play hero. Ppl keep forgetting about what Daemon did. It’s probably that Aegon wanted to get revenge for his child’s beheading and no one was giving him that chance. So he took it for himself and wasn’t privy to the plans they had behind his back. It’s kinda tragic to be fair
@@CATTingle Aegon had his own kids in the fighting pits to die lol He's more concerned with looking weak than his dead child which seems obvious. All he whined about after was how Rhae must be laughing at him.
@@sproductionsinc I mean yeah, but he did truly seem to favor his son and heir much more than those kids haha
@@sproductionsinc parents play favorites all the time. He could truly love his heir but be cruel to his bastards.
The way Sunfyre shielded Aegon to protect him from the fall 💔
Only Sunfyre loves Aegon unconditionally
im so glad both got portrayed this way in the show. its gonna make their revenge fair.
realest mf aegon will ever meet 😂
@joaorodo I have a feeling show is going to make it different.
Bro learned English just for him.
The generational trauma of how Otto treats Alicent like a pawn passing onto how Alicent treats Aegon like a pawn goes a bit insane
Otto is the source of all this madness. But now its a madness he cant control. Otto is Littlefinger who lose control
Kinda how Gen X's parents (the boomers) tried to raise us because how the Boomers' parents raised them.
@@johans3164 No it's Viserys. He had so many options, Marry Rhaenyra to Daemon and name Daemon heir. Marry Aegon to Rhaenyra and name either of them heir. Or hell, he could've even changed the laws so that a woman can legally inherit the throne so Rhaenyra has a better claim. Viserys was not the worst Targaryen king, but he definitely was the smartest.
@@hawks7111 He did change it so she can legally inherit the throne. That is why there is a war.
Aegon might not be as fluent in high Valyrian as his brother, but he somehow managed to teach Sunfyre good old English instead 😹
Sunfyre had to do some extra English homework to understand Aegon's drunk ass 🤣. Though in fairness, I really like how they showed that there is a bond of affection between Aegon and Sunfyre. Wish we had more scenes with the both of them.
Aegon be like: Yeah, "dracarys" is enough.
Because somehow, teaching sunfyre the commong tongue is much easier than teaching aegon valyrian 😭😭
@periwinkyyyyy Dragons respond easier to High Valyrian but they can be given commands in any language
@@aimanmarzuqi4804 Big spoilers below
Both sunfyre and aegon survive the fall but sunfyre is heavily maimed and unable to fly, which is probably what Allicent dropping the figurine and the wing breaking off eludes to. We will probably get a few more scenes with Aegon and Sunfyre.
Everyone else is in House of the Dragon and Daemon is in Silent Hill 😭
Daemon's visit to Harrenhall has been so hilarious to me 😂 I'm half expecting him to storm out next episode, waving Dark Sister around, yelling "I'm getting the FUCK out of this cursed place, I'm going Mad here!!"
@@Dani_1012 right?! Like he is playing fucking resident evil while everyone fights the war he wanted 😭😭
lmao true
🤣😂🤣😂
He becomes the dad from "The Shining". 😁😁🤣🤣
Alicent is such a terrible mom bro lmao. Why did she think telling him to do nothing was a good idea? She could've used that as a perfect opportunity to really change Aegon for the better after clearly not being in his life prior to him becoming king.
I think that was pretty clear in s2ep2 when Aegon was bawling for his dead son and Alicent did/said nothing to comfort him, but it makes complete sense and is passed down because of how little Otto gave a damn about listening to her problems lol. But yeah, definitely better ways she could've handled telling Aegon to learn from others. It really wasn't necessary to add things like "maybe you'll be half a king your dad was" and "do nothing".
Delivery is really important.
@@Mukatutu all true, and also, she had had a day and was not up for coddling
@@LaCheeserieshe was never up for coddling. She’s a pretty awful mother
that family need therapy and it'd be so expensive that they'd go bankrupt unless they go to Finland or something where therapy is free.
@@fourth-dimensionalbeing9737 Hold up- therapy is free in Finland??
I feel like y’all missed it but the conversation between Aemond & Aegon during the council meeting WAS meant to embarrass Aegon…because he can’t speak High Valyrian lol. It wasn’t Aegon just wanting war - he literally couldn’t respond back in HV because he can’t speak it fluently (which Aemond knew.) I DO think Aegon can understand it for the most part though. Aemond wanted to embarrass Aegon by demonstrating to the council their “Targaryen ruler/the eldest son” can’t even speak the language the Targaryen’s are known for.
I was not expecting No Sabo Kid representation when watching this episode, but here we are 😂
Yeah, Aegons brother embarrassed him with his language skills and his mother was mad at him for getting rid of his dad's books, he realized that everyone thinks he is a dummy
Wait, Aegon is older than Aemon? I thought the reason Aemon resent him was because he was passed over by his younger brother, like Daemon was passed over by his niece Rhaenrya?
Edit: you're right, damn Aemon looks old AF on the show. And it's not just the eye patch. His facial features are the cause.
@@wadewilson8011damn man you gotta pay attention 😂 I literally can’t watch this show it ppl are talking I’m like “STFU real quick” ⏪ 10 seconds 😂
Rhaenys chose to stay because of Rhaenyra's situation. The little support she has needs her dragons to defend them. Rhaenys knows this. She represents the queen as one of her dragonriders so she can't flee. "If the Queen flees at the first sign of trouble, why should we support her against these overwhelming odds?" Also, as Aemond said, Rook's Rest is vital since the Blacks losing it cuts Dragonstone off from Westeros. The blacks must defend it. Lastly, Meleys is the Blacks best dragon. She's the most capable of harming Vhagar. Aegon & Aemond falling would be a huge victory despite the risk. Rhaenys knew this and bravely fought.
I think she managed to do some damage on Vhagar. Her death was not in vain.
only fools would have attacked Vhagar alone. In order to kill Vhagar you need Meleys+Caraxex+some other dragon just to be sure. Even if you lose 2 dragons, but still manage to kill Vhagar, I'd say its appropriate outcome for the battle. Rhaenys needed to come back to dragonstone, get some help from other dragonriders and pretty much win the war right here, right now
Not to mention, since Daemon is gone and they (understandably) won't risk Jace or Rhaenyra in a fight, the only other riders are Rhaenys, or...Baela. Grandma Rhaenys protects her grand babies 💖
@@Kishinist yeah, strategically the best choice would be for Rhaenys to return to dragonstone, even if the blacks lost some reputation for it. Aegon, the king himself went down, that's already a huge win
@Kishinist in the books, it was implied that if it was a 1v1 between Meleys and Vhagar, then Meleys could have stood a chance. Yes, Vhagar is the largest and has brute strength, but she's also the slowest, and Meleys is the fastest dragon in the realm.
I do want to mention that there is also Vermithor. He is the second largest dragon at the time of the dance and does pose a threat to Vhagar.
I just realized, with the two omens. The first omen when Alicent dropped the dragon, it broke off a wing, yet it was intact. Signifying Aegon’s dragon. At the end it was still alive, barely, with Aegon TBD. The second omen is with Rhaenys. When Aegon tipped over the dragon jug, it shattered completely, signifying Rhaenys and Meleys’ death.
Yeah, the foreshadowing was heavy with that model dragon. 😅😅😅😅
@@Toxicstudioinc Yeah and her words sent him away and her other son was the one to take him down.
I’m no better than an addict the way I’ve been fiending for this video 😭
Too relatable 😂😂😂
Real😭
same brother
Dedass 😭
Lol could never be me
The bond between Aegon and Sunfyre is so profound. He doesn't even speak to his dragon in High Valeriyan, but Sunfyre understands. Also protecting him in Vaghars DRACARYS and from the fall.
You dont have to speak high valryian to dragons, thats just what they do. Its the same way a pet dog only understands the language of its owner.
Most dragon riders and dragon Guards speak high Valyrian to their dragons, but they dont have to we’ve seen dragons can understand common tongue
@@The_Muncher2017 right but remeber DRAGONS are not pets in this universe more like partners honestly
@@KTS.there is a magical aspect to it, daenrys dragons seemed to know high Valyrian as hatchlings for example it wouldnt burn its food to eat without daenrys saying drakaerys first
@@The_Muncher2017 In the books, Daenerys purposely chose the word "dracarys" to teach the dragons when to shoot fire as no one will say it accidentally. She taught them that command so it wasn't innate.
@@dogmatic806 im talking about the show, when we see the baby dragons they instinctively know what dracarys means
12:13 had me dead, the synchronised 'WHAAAAAAT?" 🤣
My brain fuckin hurts still lmaooo
If you dead how did you typed the comment?
Daemon-d... I thought it was Viserys for a second.
Replying it and still laughing
@@OhyeahMrKrabz power of the 'WHAAAAAT' singlehandedly brought me back to life
The sad thing about the dragons is that meleys and vhagar were daemon and Viserys parent's dragon, the dragons were very close, flied together Many time they have a bond and now they're tearing each other apart, and on top of that vhagar was her daughter dragon, and they k!lled her on her birthday
@@kikikim4589 The true victims of this war were the dragons they had no choice and it directly led to their decline and extinction until dany brings them back.
I don't think Vhagar cares for anyone other than her rider, she's been through so much and is literally impatient for war, I think dragons when bonded share the feelings of their riders, and Aemond gave no shits about Rhaenys or Meleys, but idk.
Not to mention to Vhagar was Laena's dragon before she was Aemond's...
The tragedy of house Targaryen
Wasn't viserys' the black dread(balerion)?
Dragons battling over the coast, secret love children rising in status, and discussions on what it means to rule.
Meanwhile Daemon is tripping balls with a witch and encouraging a kid to smother his grandpa
Poor Oscar Tully😂
@@AegonJaeger Meh, he's a muppet anyway! ^^
Rhaenys and her dragon 🐉 meleys will always be remembered. Rest in peace the queen who never was.
Crazy cause she was the only one to show them mercy and this how they return the favor😢😢 fk vagar if he die imma be BOOFIN his pack
The Queens that Never Was may she RIP.
Facts i feel so sad such an honourable death.😢
"king consort" would be daemons technical title so still "your grace" same reason you would normally call the queen as such
The dragon riders can’t just abandon the houses that are fighting for them because a scarier dragon shows up. Rhaenyra did not know Rhaenys was going to die. The look was simple concern for going into battle because of course.
Poor Aegon. Didn't want to become king, didn't want any of this shit, but the hightower putted him on the throne cause they're fucking idiots and now he gets trashed by everyone (included his mother and brother) and almost dies
What's worse is that his own brother burned him, that sucks
Fuck him man we all know what he did to Dyana
way more suitable than rhanerya dumb ass lmao
Well in the case of Aemond, Aegon did belittle him first so Aemond is valid to trash on him in return. Still sucks to go for friendly fire though.
I really hate both parties of the civil war but ye neglect in him and his desires is what led to him being the way he is
I like that this show actually shows that it takes a long time to get from place to place. The passage of time is really felt. You can also see who's dragons are battle tested and who isn't. Meleys has really good strategy when fighting. Not the biggest but this claws and talons are super sharp.
meleys was not bsttle tested tho the dialoge in this episode caught that wrong
@@rrl9399 Meleys is battle tested and experienced. She is no stranger to war as it was said.
@@Xero-rr2ol What battles has she been in? It is in this same show that they said the realm has been in times of peace for 80 years. So when did Meleys fight in battles against other dragons? When did Rheanys fight?
@@rexibhazoboa7097 Meleys wasn't in any official wars, but she protected the Velaryon fleet regularly. They have to have run into trouble from time to time. It's speculated that she may have assisted in the Stepstones or in the revenge for Rhaenys' father's death on Tarth. Who knows? But she is the oldest of the Black dragons, so she's considered the most experienced in general.
@@rexibhazoboa7097how old is the dragon?
Everyone fighting for their lives and Daemon is stuck in the Resident Evil house💀
I feel really bad for Aegon. He was an insufferable frat boy, but, he did not want to be king and even admitted that he was not fit. After they made him king they made fun of him for being bad at it and got his son killed. When he was crying over the death of his son, his mother walked away and ended up with Cole.
He's a rapist, that's a bit more than just "an insufferable frat boy." No one made him accept the crown, he was just too stupid to realize that committing treason comes with consequences.
I refuse to feel bad for someone that forced his own children to fight to the death in the pits
@@shantel903he never forced his children to fight. He doesn’t even know they exist. The mothers are the ones that put them in there. The actor himself said Aegon didn’t know. Doesn’t mean he isn’t an ass to watch the kids fight though. But people have done worse, like killing thousands of small folk in a dragon pit just to make a scene
@@shantel903Those children do not fight in the pits and he doesn’t even know they exist. That doesn’t make him remotely a good person, but what you’re claiming is plainly false.
@@shantel903 Feels bad to be explicitly wrong doesn't it? Lol 😂
The little nudge Sunfyre did to Aegon was so cute😭😭😭.
I think it's probably the only genuine, loving smile I've seen on Aegons face 😕
Poor baby
Three dragons fighting in the air is something you watch from a DISTANCE and not right below them!
That fire breathing 747 is surprisingly stealthy
Rhaenyra didn't know the Greens would have sent a dragon. Her initial idea was to go herself. They all expect the Greens to keep their dragons at Kingslanding to protect themselves. It's why Aemond and Cole's plan is kinda ingenious. The whole attack on Rooks Rest is to lure a dragon out of Dragonstone, painting a massive target on Cole and the main Green Army. Only for Aemond and his tactical nuke of a dragon to annihilate any dragon sent by the Blacks.
Except without Ageon being there Aemond would have had a far harder time winning. It was a shit plan that they get lucky with
@@redneckgamer0 no... Vhagar destroyed Mealys. Sunfyre and Aegon were almost irrelevant to the whole thing.
one of the things I've really liked is the bonds between these targaryans and their dragons. Specifically the scene of Aegon preparing with Sunfyre, like even Aegon has an otherworldly relationship with this living nuke. Really cool and gives him a little credit because at the end of the day he IS one of them.
credit to Cole for instantly seeing Aegon's dragon and thinking "Sh!t. I gotta spin this. HOLD TO YOUR COURAGE! HOLD TO YOUR WITS! YOUR KING HAS COME TO YOUR AID!!!"
The scenes of aemond talking in high valyrian to his brother was to show us that aegon doesn't speak it and can say just few words which means he's unfit to be a Targaryen king, and he's more of a Hightower , he doesn't Care about his Targaryen blood or history
All because bruv doesnt know how to speak a dead language fluently? Atleast he can still understand it
@@rexibhazoboa7097 Dead language? High valyrean is spoken all over essos what are you talking about?
@@rexibhazoboa7097, he also doesn't care about his family's history. Didn't you hear when Aegon said he had his family history books removed? He's not fit due to many things. Not embracing his heritage as a Targaryen is one of them. A big one of them. ALL Targaryens know High Valyrian and are versed in their family's history. Aegon's the first not to give a shit. That says something.
@@thatoneblackdude3333I don't think he knows.
@@thatoneblackdude3333 Not really, every part of Essos speak a different language that was derived from a dialect of High Valyrian; it's like saying that Latin is the same as Italian, Spanish, Portuguese or French
You guys always have great reactions but kudos to you guys for being one of the few reactors to actually understand Aegon's character & motivate regarding wanting to proof himself.
Alicent like "YOU SHOULD LEARN FROM ME" meanwhile she aint even showing up to the meetings.
Busy getting her guts rearranged .
Well to be fair. She's still showing up to more council meetings than Rhaynara lol
@@MyGuy18 ? Rhenyrea at best missed two meetings she's been to every other one .
she missed ONE small council this episode clearly bc the moon tea was making her sick.
@vbb2076 This fandom and particularly fans of this channel hate Alicent and the Greens too much to look clearly at the situation
Gotta say, Aegon's an asshole, but he doesn't deserve half, well maybe 40% of the treatment he received from his council and family, especially Alicent. He really was trying his best to be a good king
He's also a serial "non-consensual intimate time"-ist, and bets on his illegitimate children fighting in the pits in Fleabottom...imo, he deserves everything coming to him...
Sunfyre is goodest Boi tho 💖
It sucks even more when you realise he lost his son like a few weeks ago
It would be easier to pity Aegon if he didn't start the previous season by raping a woman and watching kids fight to the death in some kind of underground illegal arena.
@@leonardohenrique5172and was betrayed by his “closest kin” aemond is the family aegon was the closest to
Right? I felt bad for him tho even in season one he said he dont wanna be king, yet now they dont want him to be their king, yes he is stupid guy, but he actually try now, even he ask alicent"what should I do, mother "and alicent just tell him do nothing, I felt so bad for him cause everyone is turning against him and no one really try to help him grow now
I don't get where you guys are getting Rhaenyra and co thinking Rhaenys was going on a suicide mission. It's pretty clear that no one expected the Greens to give up their strongest defence of King's Landing and send them to a little castle battle.
Guys, Rhaenyra would NEVER have sent Rhaenys if she knew Aegon's army would send out a dragon like Vhagar to the battlefield since he usually protects Kings Landing lol. She didn't want to send Jace because he's literally inexperienced and also she didn't want to lose another son so quickly to war. She was completely confident in Rhaenys. NOBODY expected Aemond to show up, nor did they expect Aegon to show up. Losing a dragon is a MASSIVE loss for either side.
That's what bothers me. I feel like Daemon would've anticipated Vhagar would likely be there if he was still on the council. It would be a suicide mission for Cole to not have a dragon there since dragonstone is just across the bay and they should have prepared for that possibility.
@@Stephie_L Team Green didn't lose a dragon, he is still breathing
I think that she knew that was a possibility, that's why she sent her biggest dragon. They were backed into a corner. If Daemon was there, he would have went with Rhaenys. In my opinion Rhaenys and Rhaenyra knew it was a suicide mission.
25:52 At first I didn’t understand why she kept turning back but I think that’s exactly why. It was war and at that moment Rhaenys wasn’t a princess, she was a soldier. Her mission/duty was to protect the castle and do as much damage to the enemy as she could, no matter what. Plus taking Vhagar out was wayyy too important. Who knows when or if Daemon would return? Rhaenys had to keep trying right then and there. Besides, Meleys was doing extremely well in the battle. She absolutely obliterated Sunfyre and won that first 1v1 with Vhagar. She still had a fairly decent chance to do some serious damage. I think the outcome would’ve been very different if Aemond didn’t go for that sneak attack.
The situation was extremely complex but I think that’s the core of it. She had to keep fighting no matter what. Rhaenys was my favorite character in the show and Meleys was my favorite dragon and the coolest looking one imo. I wish they had retreated, but I understand why they didn’t. Rip Rhaenys the queen who should have been.
it doesnt make sense. Vhagar is supposed to be killed by 2-3 dragons at least. Little castle is x1000 less imprtant, than Rhainys' and Meleys'
@@Kishinist It's dishonorable to run away from a battle, some consider it treason
@@seanypark505 let's just say, I support Tywin's mindset. Daemon and Caraxes chilling in Harrenhol, now Meleys is dead. How many dreagons Blacks have? 4? 5? Loosing Rhaenys, when she clearly could have escaped after defeating Aegon is pure catastrophy
@@Kishinistno, Vaghar isn’t supposed to be killed by 2-3 dragons. The ‘historians’ stated that Meleys alone would take out Vaghar and she would have done a lot more damage or killed Vaghar if it wasn’t for that sneak attack.
@@Kishinistthey still have that red worm 🪱💀💀💀 i hope he doesn’t disappoint, the showrunners have been giving him too much screen time let’s hope it all for something worthy
My dad often falls asleep whenever we watch shit together but this episode was the first time he asked to rewatch a part because he missed the dragon fight
I normally have a similar problem with my mom, but she's normally really good about staying awake for House of the Dragon. She fell asleep while watching this episode though right before the Dragon fight. I had no issue rewinding for her to watch.
Rhaenys was not going back a second time, when she turned Meleys around, they were heading back towards Dragonstone, which was across the water. That's why Aemond and Vhagar hid there.
Daemon out here doing side quests before finishing up the main storyline
More like Daemon fighting his own daemons
I’m team black all the way, but I feel the most sorry for Aegon. People say he craves power when really he just wants love. The few times we see him truly happy is with his son, and now that his boy is dead we see that only his dragon Sunfyre fills that role.
Alicent and the other green members act like Aegon owes them some huge favor and that he should be greatful, but he didn’t want that role, he screamed he didn’t want to be king. And now they all belittle him because he isn’t the perfect puppet.
Aegon feels way too deeply and he drinks to numb himself from his front emotions.
Alicent said literally the worst words to him when he asked for help. It was sad too when he just told her that he just moved the books and not had them destroyed, she really is a terrible mother.
She is the one who had beaten her son when he said he won't challenge his sister's claim. She is the one who said Aegon can bully his brother but just in private, he didn't have to do it in front of other people especially Rhaenyra's children.
Why are we still acting surprised she is a shitty mother?
bruh lupa and roshi w their hive mind once again @12:13 😂
29:54 Aegon didn't left when they were talking about the battle he left when they were talking about other business. Nobody knew about the plan except Aemond and Cole not even council so Yes they moved without telling him.
"apologies to all our geriatric subscribers" LMAOAOAOAOA I CANT
i lost it when hanson from scary movie viserys flashed on the screen
I don’t think that rhaenys declared herself dead, but she knew that she had to biggest dragon and was the best rider, she had the best chance to take out vhagar, and also it was her mission to make sure that they didn’t take the castle.
"on the CASTLE?? The thing we were trying to PROTECT??!" 🤣🤣🤣 You guys are killing me
As if she chose where to fall and die. Is this guy stupid?
Man I was more sad about these dragons suffering than these crazy ass Targaryens beefing
12:13 the Aemond cosplay is crazy work😭😭
I feel like Daemon demanding to be called “your grace” isn’t treason cause you generally would call a queen “your grace” in this world afaik and a king consort is basically that
Wow y'all are good, It didn't clcik in my head that the dragon imagery being destroyed was foreshadowing. The one Alicent drops symbolizes Sunfyre being wounded and the dragon glassware that Aegon knocked over symbolizes Meleys dying. I didn't catch that the first time I watched this episode!
Like, I knew who was going to die this episode because I'm familiar with the source material, like as soon as they mentioned Rooks Rest, I knew, oh yeah, they're going to die here. I just didn't catch the foreshadowing in those specific scenes.
Translation of what Rhaenyra said to Daemon
It’s been said that Targaryens are closer to gods than men…
In my eyes, you were a god. Daemon Targaryen. The Prince of the City. The Lord of Flea Bottom.
I was an innocent. You exploited me and abandoned me. You sullied my name at court. You empowered my rivals. You tried to make my ruin.
You put me on that throne. And you love me and you hate me for it.
You created me, Daemon. Yet you are now set on destroying me.
All because your brother loved me more than he did you.
This is what you always wanted, is it not?”
Makes no sense Rhaenyra sullied her own name, empowered her rivals, and made her ruin by having bastards. Daemon isn't set on destroying her either. The show is so inconsistent with Daemon its ridiculous.
@@lucasbelmonte2832 I take it as daemon regret telling her to enjoy life and it's his subconscious telling him that everything is happing to her it's because of him
@@lucasbelmonte2832 This is his own subconscious so this is what HE thinks he did. Plus, they both contributed and did those things, it wasn't one or the other.
@@lucasbelmonte2832rhenyreas name was not sullied prior to blood and cheese daemon did that , debatable, her sons have nothing to do with her situation and is not a issue only the greens care about her sons .
@@thatoneblackdude3333 Having possibly bastard and trying to put one on the throne is a big issue.
Everybody is dying - all three of them just laughing their asssssss of... classic!
How does Aemond large ass grandma dragon keeps being able to sneak up on them.. CMON IT GIANT!
Jace just Mewing entire War
Bro serve face no matter the situation.
youu guys caught the dragons dropping omens more than even easter egg channels did! they only even mentioned the model, but the two different dragons signified the 2 falling from the sky
Alicent was ice-cold with Aegon, literally pushed him over the edge.
Aegon and Rhaenys having a little moment with their dragons begore they flew out, it made my heart melt
Daemon is King Consort and in this worlds custom he is entitled to be called Your Grace as a Queen Consort would be
Daemon's side quest isn't that wasteful because he already knows the Riverlands are key to winning the war since the Lannisters (and Westerlands) and Hightowers (and The Reach) are on the side of the greens. Harrenhal is the largest castle so he's trying to have another stronghold. In the first episode this season Alicent thought that Aegon would kind of get over being king but since his son was killed, Aegon has been acting irrationally (in her eyes) so she is lashing out on him. The plan was always to kind of make Aegon a puppet until he got some sense but when he fired Otto that's when he got her pubes all tinged.
Shera is giving Rhaenyra way too much credit.
Cole baited them and they bit hard.
Rhaenyra did not know that Rhanys will die, she wasn’t expecting a dragon fight.
which is honestly kinda weird they didnt expect or even consider the possibility of dragon being there. I get they wanted to shock people and on purpose didnt talk about that but still, in universe it's HUGE mistake, maybe even the biggest they made
26:29 had me bout to tear up and 5 seconds after it I was like “man f this cool mf anime villain” he looked too cold flying away from his treachery 😂
Aegon tried to literally tried to learn from Alicent in that scene, and all she did was demean him.
calling himself King isn't exactly wrong if you look in the perspective correctly.
Alicent was called Queen and Your Grance while being married to Viserys.
So was Cersei and Margery in GoT.
Bruv. His Queen herself calls him prince and not king. So what right does he have to give himself a higher title than what his ruler gives him?
There is a reason king consorts are called princes and not kings. King is a higher title than Queen, so if a Queen sits the throne, she cannot have her king consort be called King as that gives him more authority than her. And only a King and Queen are called Your Grace. King consort/princes are not called that so no, Daemon is doing something wrong.
@rexibhazoboa7097 NOT true, Alicent was addressed as your grace!
@@moysterx because Alicent is the Queen Dowager. They are still called Queens, and Queens are referred to as Your grace.
What is hard to understand?
@@rexibhazoboa7097 Sir Alfred literally says the only people that can command the Council is the Queen, the King Consort, and the Hand. Why would he list a title that doesn't exist?
@@dejajade6726 I did not say it doesnt exist. I said King consorts arent referred to as "Your Grace" Because that's reserved for the King, the Queen and the Queen consort.
Daemon is King Consort (husband of the Queen ruler) so yes, he should be called Your Grace if you accept Rhaenyra as queen.
Stop saying Aemond can't control his dragon...HE CAN...The incident with Luke was a moment of weakness😂
One of the best dragon fights ever made
Serious question: how many have been made?
😂fact, i mean maybe Eragon but that's pretty much it or the post apocalyptic future movie with dragon with bale@@happyslapsgiving5421
@@happyslapsgiving5421 fr lol
@@happyslapsgiving5421 Well there’s Eragon and How to train your dragon as well as the 1 fight in Game of thrones that you couldn’t see because its too dark. Among those this is the best and HTTYD is animation so in terms of live action this is the best.
We had zombie veseryon and the other dragons
3:12 The thing about the title: "Your Grace" can also be used to address the consort of a reigning monarch. For example, Daemon Targaryen should technically be called "Your Grace" since he is the king consort, married to Rhaenyra, the Queen. However, in modern monarchies, this practice is not commonly followed. For instance, in the United Kingdom, Prince Philip was not called King because the title of King is considered higher than that of Queen. But he was still addressed as "Your Grace" because he was also a duke.😅 Or better " Your Royal Highness"
right? I don't know why people are questioning that, alicent was a queen consort to viserys and they address her as "queen" with your grace, she's a queen dowager now they still address her as your grace. daemon should be addressed with your grace
Homeboy Blackwood that Daemon is talking to at 13:40 is the young Blackwood kid that killed the Bracken dude infront of young Rhaenyra back in the day
Did ya'll peep that Aemond spoke better high valyrian than Aegon did? Aemond been ready to prove himself true king since day 1.
28:11 Aegon survived but was left with broken ribs, a broken pelvis and the armor fused into the skin.
Rhaenys had to defend Rook's Rest. It was mentioned that it was an important mainland area for Dragonstone/Team Black but I also think that she kept going to try to injure/kill Vhagar to give Team Black an advantage in the war to come. She stayed longer to confirm the kill and mission. She said it herself that her dragon has battle experience and the largest they had... but she went in knowing it was a battle to the death. I still wish they survived. Her and her dragon exchanging last looks hurt so much 😭
Fucking granny Vhagar with her sneak attacks and the plan to draw out a team black dragon worked.
Theres so many things we could pick at on lack of planning and patience for both sides but the point of this fight was to show how devastating dragon war is.
If she flees it could be a bad look on team black and turn some supporters away.
If she stays she could potentially end the biggest issue in the war (granny Vhagar) and save her loved ones from having to take on Vhagar.
She could also be considering what everyone's been saying about why she didn't end it when she had the chance. Her death can also be the push and precaution that Team Black needs.
Daemon fighting evil spririts, and becoming a ghost buster WHILST the dragons have a civil war! 😆
Dragons falling and exploding makes so much sense because they got organs full of fire
No one knew about the plan (Vhagar ambush) except for Aemond and Cole, not even the council. Aegon was pushed to go because of the way Alicent has been treating him. He never wanted to be king and he Expressed it many times , he even said he's not fit to rule. Yet they dragged him and made him King without even guiding him properly nor training him to rule. So I don't really blame Aegon for feeling frustrated especially when everyone is making him feel Insignificant, they just want him to sit and do nothing while they manipulate everything... I feel bad for him
I love how attentive you guys are with the symbolism and stuff, I didn't even notice the connections.
That spit fight cut caught me off guard and I can't stop laughing.
Rhaanyra did not know Rhaenys was going to die because nobody knew that Criston had a trap laid out for them, Rhaenyra just wanted to handle things swiftly using one of the dragons but was caught lacking
I don't think Rhaenys intended to die, she just knew that if a dragon has to go, it makes sense to be her. Rhaenyra is the Queen, Jace is her heir and Rhaenys knows that she would never risk another son. She knows that she's the best option, they wouldn't sacrifice one of the best allies and one of the biggest dragons for nothing.
My guess for why Rhaenys turns around knowing she'll prob die is because she'd take even a small chance of ending the war here. She's been behind Rhaenyra's pushes for peace. She's willing to put her life on the line for a shot at killing Vhagar (her dragon did do a bit of damage after all!) or a more likely way of winning would be to kill Aemond. She takes the chance, knew it was curtains the second she sees Vhagar, but tries her best because theres just the smallest chance she can draw or at least seriously damage Vhagar for her team
Not to mention, since Rhaenyra and Jace are mostly off the table as fighters, and Daemon is currently gone, it's either Rhaenys or Baela...grandma Rhaenys protects her grand babies 💖
ya thats exactly it. vhagar is slow and old and cant win in a dogfight against a faster dragon
I didn't know Lupa was churchy 😂 Vagar's size brought him to the foot of the cross! 😂🤣 24:37
Rhaenys put up a good fight she didn't want to go back home because she knew there would be a slim chance she could've beat Aemond and Vhagar and take out the greens wincon and she was willing to take that risk for it but I'm 100% certain if Meleys and Vhagar had continued to 1 v 1 head on Meleys would've won, the fact that she use her speed to fly under Vhagar then got caught, clawed her up, then manage to take Vhagar the second biggest dragon to the ground with her then manage to fly back up was very impressive,Vhagar only won due to cheap shot tactics by Aemond going behind the mountain and waiting.
Blah Blah Blah “ would’ve” “if” who cares about hypotheticals lmao she died and that’s it she lost easy as that
Daemons plan in the first episode wasn't so bad if you watch this episode.
@@remsghis😂😂😂😂😂 cant wait for you to watch the future fights LOL, Book Spoiler alertt🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Lol not a cheap shot 😂😂😂 it's called tactical manoeuvres
@@remsghis Let's keep this same energy for the future battles to come
A true soldier never abandons their post, even when the odds are against them.
That episode reeked of Death since the opening
3:10 why would it be treason? The husband of a queen is a king. They even add the consort to make clear who the ruler is.
I feel disgusting for even saying this but I kinda feel bad for Aegon. On one hand he actually seems to want to rule, we can tell from how he acted with the small folk. But everyone around him just sees him as a pawn and some dumb useless kid. Which he is. But no one actually cares enough to teach him how to rule. They just wanna use him
Don’t get me wrong he’s still a piece of doodoo
Daemon having his own Silent Hill 2 experience
Ya'll didn't catch it...Aemond at the end had his sword out cuz he was gonna finish AEGON...He now has his own agenda now😈😈
Which is why he took that dagger that Aegon had held in the last few episodes. It shows he's in command now.
Daemon fighting evil spirits and becoming a ghost buster, WHILST there a dragon civil war! 😂
Respect Sir Cole the strongest swordsman in the show 🤫
The meister was like "I deliver only one kind of tea"
Not gonna lie… episode fucked me up
I knew she was gonna die soon… but they way the dragon kept looking back like a dog and the weight just hit man
Me too i hate watching shows that makes me feel uncomfortable and put me on a state of distress.
Dragon acted like a nobel steed.
PPPPPPPTTTTTTTTT I was not prepared for 24:59 yalls editor is crazy and he deserves every penny.
I didn't think I would feel pity for Aegon in this, but I do. Aemond's use of High Valarian during the council meeting showed that Aegon's understanding of the language is basic at best, it is clear that he didn't study it as well as his brother, just like he didn't learn many things, and then to have Alicent basically tell him he was taught just enough to be her, the council's and Otto's puppet, it was no wonder that he lashed out so foolishly.
I think some people are missing the complexity in Aegon's character. I think he doesn't care about the histories or ruling because he was never considered for that position. Of course he never took that seriously because Viserys probably didn't share the importance of it the way he did with Rhaenyra (his heir). If Aegon was prepped and guided by Viserys from the start, Aegon would have felt worthy/ important of something and he would've likely taken it seriously. When everyone thought Viserys would name Aegon as heir, remember how aimless Rhaenyra became. "No one is here for me." That's basically Aegon's whole life. Aemond is only more educated because he was bullied and that drove him to prove himself. And what people miss is that Alicent wasn't imparting wisdom in that scene. She wasn't saying shut up and learn. She was saying, shut up because you have nothing useful to contribute. I'm not surprised Aegon lashed out either...
Why is Allicent being blamed?
Sleeping with Criston Cole did not cause any royal to be killed. Criston is Allicent’s sworn protector, if he was doing his duty he wiould be by Allicent’s door. He would not be able to stop the murder.
Cole’s plan was also not discussed at the council, if Allicent was at that meeting it would have changed nothing.
No, Rhaenyra did not expect Rhaenys to die. If anything she knew Rhaenys and Meleys are battle tested and if anyone was going to survive a dragon fight it would be her. That's why she actually told her son he lacked experience she was truthful with that, if he had experience, she would have let him go. She came to the conclusion that it's war or death, sparing her son from battle is not on her mind, she sent the babies away, if she wanted to spare him, she would have forced him to leave too.
Wow that’s a great catch with the toy dragon Alicent dropped and the yellow dragon cup Aegon dropped that both shattered/broke. Great foretelling I didn’t catch and haven’t heard anyone else mention either.
Cole in the last frame: "Now the Queen won't ever let me hit."
Not the DUI for Aegon on his dragon lmao, to be fair he loves him. Sunfyre looks really cool
Alicent's brother cursing Cole is the entire audience ong
missed opportunity for the editor to use the "ENEMY ACC-130 ABOVE" from OG MW2 when they were like what type of dragon is that
Word, would have been peak reaction timing. 😂😂
The synced "Whaaat" at 12:13 is so comical lmao