Those accused who defended themselves by saying that they thought it was a 'sex game' never had her consent in the first place. That they had her husband's consent is completely irrelevant. It's rape no matter how you look at it.
This is not a France or French culture issue, this is a world-wide issue of both overt and covert misogyny. The whole world is watching this. My heart goes out to Gisele and I send her my gratitude for her courage and strength to endure this. Sending Gisele love and support from San Francisco California.
@Katiediddance Sadly, your country just voted widely for misogyny attitudes & policies. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next 4 years. I hope that there are enough good men in the US to counter balance the misogyny & control over women's bodies. Unfortunately, my country, Canada, is not far behind yours with misogyny & decreasing women's rights. My province has one of the highest incidence in Intimate Partner Violence & Death. Much work needs to be done to change attitudes.
@@Marigold-m2uhhh far left liberal policies (as defined in the US) quite literal erases the definition of women and allows men in women spaces. The USA just voted sanity back in.
It's sad that we have to use the label "feminist" for women who are fighting for proper assault laws. It's just a basic human right to not have someone touch us, hurt us and violate us.
The label is right in my view. You mentioned "women who are fighting for...". It is sad that all those activists or person who comes to encourage Gisele are women when indeed basic human rights are involved . The label feminist for women fighting for women's right is quite appropriate in my view
It's not almost international; it is international. Hugs to Gisele, her family and friends, and their supporters for standing tall in the face of this. From Florida, United States
@@Valentin-h6dI am from Canada and watching this case and sending my well wishes to Giselle. It is most definitely international news. Why are you on here being so condescending? Are you invested in this case somehow? Do you support violence against women? Why are being so confrontational about a topic that doesn’t concern you? Or does this topic concern you in some way? The internet is no longer anonymous just FYI.
Even if it didn't change attitudes, though clearly it should, Gisele has given women of the world strength and shown how to put blame where it belongs. 💕🇨🇦
@@cynthiabrown5468 so sorry to hear that...but I too have been graped. I don't think men realize that ALMOST all women, if not ALL, have been S/A-ed. Thing is, I think most men don't care.
@isabellewhite3505 Do you know anyone personally who has been to jail for SA-ing someone ??? I don't...not only is their reputation not damaged, they can be made president !!! 4B and more !!!
"Since the sexual asault at 17 years of age on a date and the 1st of multiple in my adult 40 + years, I've been sharing my experiences of these sexual assaults. All, while never accepting any shame being placed on me. Although I have not been truly heard, much less understood or valued in my existence after dignifyingly overcoming it all. I have managed strongly hanging on to my great self-worth and self-love with my unbrakeable dignity. For this and so much more... I love and admire you, Gisele Pelicot, I truly do!" #ILOVEYOUGisele
Even in modern times, we still have men who believe that women are property, this is a systemic problem & a prime example of how a male fashioned & dominated system has created traumatised humans, en masse. These are the stories that belong in history books, is it time for the return of matriarchal leadership globally??
Some men, not all. Just lost my husband who fully supported women, he would have been sick to stomach by should evil and hatred of his own sex@@cidercik
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So many of them, across all races and cultures. Almost as if it were biological in nature. Disturbing. We see them as human and assume they feel the same. They don't
"I am in debt with you, Gisele. As a multiple times domestic abuse and vial SA overcomer in my 6 decade existance... thank you/Gracias." 🙏💖🌟💖🙏"You are brave, dignified, generous, gracious, selfless, strong, kind, and so much more sweet and classy, lady." #Somuchmore 💞
It's time for societies all over the world to take the conversation about sexual relations, respect and consent to the boys in an age appropriate way. It's obvious we can't expect them to just "get it" as they are growing up. Until we stop raising men who will do this, the attitudes will never change.
The sadism of these men toward women. Men's attitudes may take a long time to change. Their behavior will change when they are held accountable and suffer the consequences of prison.
How do the feminists in France think introducing CONSENT to the law a bad thing ??? Try looking at Spain...we have a new law ONLY YES IS YES...a drugged person can't say NO, a scared person can't say NO...the absence of a negative is not a positive !!!
One person can't speak for all feminists & I doubt very much that any real feminist, would be against laws that offer better protection to women. Don't forget to do your own research, the media often write articles pushing agenda's instead of reporting facts.
@charzemc which is why I want to spread Spain's new law ONLY YES IS YES...when up untill now women had to prove they had said NO, which is impossible if sedated or unconscious.
I won't call them feminists, they have a cheeck to think they are. Those who oppose are freaks just like the men who assaulted this lady. What is wrong with France? They appear backwards .
Thank You Gisele for standing up Bravo! I admire your bravery - The whole world is watching ! Women , girls, and victims look up to you in so many ways for standing against the humiliation !!
They have a beautiful poster of an image of Jazelle going around to spread awareness. I would be proud to have that on my wall. Wish I could be there to show my gratitude towards her going through this most difficult period in her life and allowing everyone to know what her and her daughter went through.
I am very surprised at how far behind French culture seems to be on these issues. OTOH maybe I shouldn’t be. I hear it’s still hard for a woman to buy a Hermes’ bag for herself at the Paris store, but her husband can buy it with no trouble at all. No sex education is utterly pathetic. Women are not property or livestock or children.
Where do you live, that women don’t fear getting raped in their own homes? Where systemic oppression of women isn’t a thing? I want to move there! (The Hermès bad story is complete bs, I have no idea where you get that from)
Gisele sorry for what happened to you, you are extremely brave revealing this horror, i admire you for coming forward, i wouldnt have done it , a jail sentence isnt enough for the creature that did this, there are weirdo's everywhere in every country ,.disgusting creeps, i hope you can have a wonderful future with you're family , you are amazing ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊
"I am in debt with you, Gisele. As a multiple times domestic abuse and vial rape overcomer in my 6 decade existance... thank you/Gracias." 🙏💖🌟💖🙏"You are brave, dignified, generous, gracious, selfless, strong, kind, and so much more you sweet and classy, lady." #Somuchmore 💞
The questions coming from the NYT reporter and her description of the assaults really fail to ask the questions and describe the nature of the assault appropriately. She is careless with her description of what she witnessed.
The lady repeats every day that SHAME will change sides! It is clear that shame will blame the families of these perverts for several generations. Whether they are locked up in prison or free, whether their names or photos are published in the media, it will not change a lot.
Why did it take nearly a decade for this to be realized? Like if you are drugged/spiked, you’d feel side effects of the drug the next day by which you would think something strange happened. Especially if you are raped while being drugged, you would have physiological consequences (swelling/bruises/pain) on your body and can definitely conclude something abnormal happened. How was this able to keep happening for over a decade? Either I am not fully familiar with the case or something here just doesn’t add up. Someone please clarify.
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You clearly aren't familiar with the case. She was seeing doctors trying to figure out what was happening. It seems obvious in hindsight. Imagine it was happening to you. You really think your first thought would be 'my husband is drugging me so that heaps of men can rape me'. Don't be ridiculous.
Those accused who defended themselves by saying that they thought it was a 'sex game' never had her consent in the first place. That they had her husband's consent is completely irrelevant. It's rape no matter how you look at it.
@@Snowkobbie the husband was pimping her
This is not a France or French culture issue, this is a world-wide issue of both overt and covert misogyny. The whole world is watching this. My heart goes out to Gisele and I send her my gratitude for her courage and strength to endure this. Sending Gisele love and support from San Francisco California.
Well said
Yes misogyny
And family trafficking family is more common than we thought.
@Katiediddance Sadly, your country just voted widely for misogyny attitudes & policies. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next 4 years. I hope that there are enough good men in the US to counter balance the misogyny & control over women's bodies. Unfortunately, my country, Canada, is not far behind yours with misogyny & decreasing women's rights. My province has one of the highest incidence in Intimate Partner Violence & Death. Much work needs to be done to change attitudes.
Joining you from India !❤
@@Marigold-m2uhhh far left liberal policies (as defined in the US) quite literal erases the definition of women and allows men in women spaces. The USA just voted sanity back in.
It's sad that we have to use the label "feminist" for women who are fighting for proper assault laws. It's just a basic human right to not have someone touch us, hurt us and violate us.
The label is right in my view. You mentioned "women who are fighting for...". It is sad that all those activists or person who comes to encourage Gisele are women when indeed basic human rights are involved . The label feminist for women fighting for women's right is quite appropriate in my view
Exactly!
French attitude? How about worldwide attitude?
France is bad !!! Lived there for a while...
Some cultures believe prostitutes WANT this. NO. They're slaves.
Exactly. As if it’s just a French problem.
@marynoonan6111 but the French do it extra...lived there, mum died there...don't recommend it.
@@fay5479 ???
It's not almost international; it is international. Hugs to Gisele, her family and friends, and their supporters for standing tall in the face of this. From Florida, United States
Oh stop being dramatic and exaggerating lol 😂😂
She is a lottery winner making easy money
@@Valentin-h6d Are you a rapist? It sure sounds like it with your victim blaming. Her husband admitted what he had done.
@Anne--Marie I bet you are
@@Valentin-h6dI am from Canada and watching this case and sending my well wishes to Giselle. It is most definitely international news. Why are you on here being so condescending? Are you invested in this case somehow? Do you support violence against women? Why are being so confrontational about a topic that doesn’t concern you? Or does this topic concern you in some way? The internet is no longer anonymous just FYI.
Even if it didn't change attitudes, though clearly it should, Gisele has given women of the world strength and shown how to put blame where it belongs. 💕🇨🇦
High sentencing must be enforced worldwide
An all faces & names published
So many sick men in this world.
Repeal the GRA
You're a white Femenist supremacista
@@Valentin-h6dand you're one of them..
@@helencockroft4361 GRA?
So many sick women in this world
I was raped and sexually abused growing up in Canada by six men. This is a worldwide issue. Men - do better.
@@cynthiabrown5468 so sorry to hear that...but I too have been graped. I don't think men realize that ALMOST all women, if not ALL, have been S/A-ed. Thing is, I think most men don't care.
@@cynthiabrown5468 untill women make up half the police force and half the judicial system...there will be no justice for women.
OMG I'm so very sorry
Hope you got justice
@isabellewhite3505 Do you know anyone personally who has been to jail for SA-ing someone ??? I don't...not only is their reputation not damaged, they can be made president !!! 4B and more !!!
Oh stop exaggerating making a big fuzz about nothing,Oh by the way I'm a man I'm not sorry of what happened to you,Take responsibility for your self
Bless your heart dear Gisèle! Courage, strength and hope for women. Thank you
"Since the sexual asault at 17 years of age on a date and the 1st of multiple in my adult 40 + years, I've been sharing my experiences of these sexual assaults. All, while never accepting any shame being placed on me. Although I have not been truly heard, much less understood or valued in my existence after dignifyingly overcoming it all. I have managed strongly hanging on to my great self-worth and self-love with my unbrakeable dignity. For this and so much more... I love and admire you, Gisele Pelicot, I truly do!" #ILOVEYOUGisele
I dont understand why some one would do that to there wife. It makes me sick, and sad.
Even in modern times, we still have men who believe that women are property, this is a systemic problem & a prime example of how a male fashioned & dominated system has created traumatised humans, en masse.
These are the stories that belong in history books, is it time for the return of matriarchal leadership globally??
You'll be shocked to know what men really feel about women.
Some men, not all. Just lost my husband who fully supported women, he would have been sick to stomach by should evil and hatred of his own sex@@cidercik
So many of them, across all races and cultures. Almost as if it were biological in nature. Disturbing. We see them as human and assume they feel the same. They don't
I really hope this case will make a change not only in france but everywhere. Male violence against women is out of control and needs to be stopped.
Stop exaggerating women are not angels
@@Valentin-h6danother mysoginist.
@TheLampini another Anti male misandrist
@@Valentin-h6d
Incel
@TheLampini bla bla bla
How did this man obtain such doses of drugs?!? What licensed doctor or pharmacist would prescribe that?
Really? He’s a criminal. They are easy to obtain.
Apparently, his brother is a pharmacist that supplied the drugs.
"I am in debt with you, Gisele. As a multiple times domestic abuse and vial SA overcomer in my 6 decade existance... thank you/Gracias." 🙏💖🌟💖🙏"You are brave, dignified, generous, gracious, selfless, strong, kind, and so much more sweet and classy, lady." #Somuchmore 💞
It's time for societies all over the world to take the conversation about sexual relations, respect and consent to the boys in an age appropriate way. It's obvious we can't expect them to just "get it" as they are growing up. Until we stop raising men who will do this, the attitudes will never change.
The sadism of these men toward women. Men's attitudes may take a long time to change. Their behavior will change when they are held accountable and suffer the consequences of prison.
What you mean consequences of prison?Are you suggesting to solve violent crime with more violent crime then the world is doomed
They thought it was a game?
What kind of man wants to have sex with an unconscious woman even if it was consensual?
Max sentence of 20 years?? Tells it all..
How do the feminists in France think introducing CONSENT to the law a bad thing ???
Try looking at Spain...we have a new law ONLY YES IS YES...a drugged person can't say NO, a scared person can't say NO...the absence of a negative is not a positive !!!
One person can't speak for all feminists & I doubt very much that any real feminist, would be against laws that offer better protection to women.
Don't forget to do your own research, the media often write articles pushing agenda's instead of reporting facts.
@charzemc which is why I want to spread Spain's new law ONLY YES IS YES...when up untill now women had to prove they had said NO, which is impossible if sedated or unconscious.
@charzemc more countries should change their laws...the lack of a negative is NOT a positive.
I won't call them feminists, they have a cheeck to think they are. Those who oppose are freaks just like the men who assaulted this lady. What is wrong with France? They appear backwards .
@@fay5479 Im South African and we have strict laws regarding it.
Thank You Gisele for standing up Bravo! I admire your bravery - The whole world is watching ! Women , girls, and victims look up to you in so many ways for standing against the humiliation !!
Thank you Gisele. De notre part en Iran, we respect you. Merci. On t’aime. Merci pour ton courage.
My thoughts are also with the women of Iran, may you find equal rights soon ❤
Gisele est FORMIDABLE!!! Bravo!!!
They have a beautiful poster of an image of Jazelle going around to spread awareness. I would be proud to have that on my wall. Wish I could be there to show my gratitude towards her going through this most difficult period in her life and allowing everyone to know what her and her daughter went through.
I am very surprised at how far behind French culture seems to be on these issues. OTOH maybe I shouldn’t be. I hear it’s still hard for a woman to buy a Hermes’ bag for herself at the Paris store, but her husband can buy it with no trouble at all. No sex education is utterly pathetic. Women are not property or livestock or children.
Where do you live, that women don’t fear getting raped in their own homes? Where systemic oppression of women isn’t a thing? I want to move there!
(The Hermès bad story is complete bs, I have no idea where you get that from)
Gisele sorry for what happened to you, you are extremely brave revealing this horror, i admire you for coming forward, i wouldnt have done it , a jail sentence isnt enough for the creature that did this, there are weirdo's everywhere in every country ,.disgusting creeps, i hope you can have a wonderful future with you're family , you are amazing ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊
"I am in debt with you, Gisele. As a multiple times domestic abuse and vial rape overcomer in my 6 decade existance... thank you/Gracias." 🙏💖🌟💖🙏"You are brave, dignified, generous, gracious, selfless, strong, kind, and so much more you sweet and classy, lady." #Somuchmore 💞
The questions coming from the NYT reporter and her description of the assaults really fail to ask the questions and describe the nature of the assault appropriately. She is careless with her description of what she witnessed.
I don’t know why she chose a visiting American journalist to interview in depth about French society. Couldn’t find anyone else?
And meanwhile, no potential of the "Final Destination" penalty
How did this go beyond the first occurrence?
This will not change anything.
Are you referring to Men’s Hate targeting women? If not why not?
The lady repeats every day that SHAME will change sides! It is clear that shame will blame the families of these perverts for several generations. Whether they are locked up in prison or free, whether their names or photos are published in the media, it will not change a lot.
Outraged!
Why did it take nearly a decade for this to be realized? Like if you are drugged/spiked, you’d feel side effects of the drug the next day by which you would think something strange happened. Especially if you are raped while being drugged, you would have physiological consequences (swelling/bruises/pain) on your body and can definitely conclude something abnormal happened. How was this able to keep happening for over a decade? Either I am not fully familiar with the case or something here just doesn’t add up. Someone please clarify.
You clearly aren't familiar with the case. She was seeing doctors trying to figure out what was happening. It seems obvious in hindsight. Imagine it was happening to you. You really think your first thought would be 'my husband is drugging me so that heaps of men can rape me'.
Don't be ridiculous.
Apparently they were not especially violent with her body. Also, she went to see lots of doctors.
Same on france man'
#Giseleyouaremysister
I don’t understand why she is Still wearing her wedding ring?
How did people find out that this was happening?
Dominique Pelicot was trying to film up the skirts of women and got caught which led to a deeper dive into other materials he had in his possession.
We can never hope to grow out of radical bigotry as long as we keep teaching it to our children through religions.
I pray so much for her healing and wellness
, if this is even possible…So grateful for her bravery and admire her strength in so many ways 🤍🕊️🙏
She is on the money