The 1977 Ford F600 4x4 Rollback: Project Atlas. Introduction.
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The Introduction to Project Atlas. The Quest to build the Ultimate rollback truck. Taking a 1977 Ford F600 rollback and combining it with a 1978 Ford F600 FACTORY 4x4! Stay tuned!
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i just did a frame cut video series on a an old beverage truck. i showed it from start to finish. im not a pro by any means but it came out good. you can see how i lined up the two frames, how i did the splice joint, the outside double frame and the inside frame liner. not saying it is the best or the only way to do it...just the way i did it. hope you find something useful in the videos. if you have any questions email me "j.c.smithprojects@gmail.com" love the visual aid drawings! very impressive.
Thanks for the kind words 🙂👍 I truly appreciate you taking the time to view my video! 😃 I was just watching that one yesterday lol. You done an amazing job in my opinion. Funny how the guy said during down time he would take the frame back apart and grease in between, and you said it would never get done 😂 I was thinking the same!..I may send you an email. Thanks again! 🙂👍 it means a lot
@@HODGEPODGEDODGEGARAGE , yep, that was me.
Greetings from Brazil, my father has an f 7000 1978 with a Perkins 6357 engine on, watching this video, reminds me about the good old times, let's never forget about the old school trucks, 👏👏 good job
Brazil! :) That is awesome my friend. The Perkins diesel was a great engine. Thank you for the view and kind words. That means a lot
I love those old paint jobs.
Oh yeah, same here! Probably cost a fortune back in it's prime :)
What's not to like? Honest guy doing honest work with no obnoxious loud music. Working on things with what he has. My kind of video. Keep them coming.
Thanks Douglas! 😃👍 I really appreciate the kind words my friend
I think that’s an awesome idea Zane! The paper cut outs really helped explain on how your gonna tackle this project, and I’m really looking forward to seeing the trucks get cut in half!🤣
Thanks Cody! :)
Can't wait to see truck when done
Thanks for the support Larry! :)
Blew the production budget on this vid! Loved the arts and crafts section. Really helps understand what you’re talking about. Very excited to see this project get off the ground!
Thank you Mike! 🙂 I really appreciate the kind words of encouragement 🙂👍
Can't wait to see it all come together.
Or apart then together.😋
Thanks Jeff! 😀👍 I appreciate the view and kind words. That means a lot. 🙂
the paper cutout was perfect for your explanation. subscribed
Thank you Al 🙂👍 I truly appreciate that my friend
2 ton 4x4 roll back. That will be awesome. Thanks for the description/ puzzle explanation. Great video.
Thanks for tuning in. I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
That's an awesome way to demonstrate what and how you are doing it. Doesn't get much simpler than that!!
Thanks Levi :) I'm glad you enjoyed it
Fine job explaining your operation in an idiot proof way. Your passion and vision for vintage gear is quite unique today. Most people would see a beat down old p.o.s. That would cost too much to put back into service. But to a true gearhead with some initiative it's totally possible. Make it happen brother and prove it to them all. Great videos God bless.
Thanks for the kind words! 🙂👍 I truly appreciate the inspiration. God bless 🙂
Wow you are quite the artist with your drawing board.
Thank you, I appreciate the kind comment 🙂👍 Glad you stopped by 🔧
Your graphic explanation of your fix or use of trucks is outstanding. Wish you all the best.
Thank you Bill! :) That means a lot. I really appreciate the kind words
Ford made 360 - 390 for pickups and 361 - 391 for the big trucks. I don't know why but it sounds crazy. I use to work in a truck shop cutting and making trucks shorter and longer and your on the right track with what your thinking, good luck and be safe.
Always much appreciated Badger Bob! :) Thank you
What an awesome project!
Thank you Justin! 🙂👍 I appreciate the kind words
I really appreciate your humility. I hope you hold on to that. Great work! Your content is refreshing.
Thank you Stephen! 🙂👍 I truly appreciate the kind words. It means a lot. I'm glad that you stopped by and like the content. Have a great Friday my friend 👍
I love the look of this truck! I love the front end, the grill and bumper. It would have lookd awsome on the yellow one. The paint scheme on the brown truck is awsome! Zane, i love the channel!
Thank you for the view and kind words 🙂👍 I really appreciate that
too bad you didn't enter the quarantine car show. best explanation ever with the drawings
Thanks for the view and comment. I found out about that after :( I used to watch Deboss quite a bit. Good channel :)
Can not wait to see this monster built..
Thanks for the words of encouragement Duane! 🙂👍 I'm excited to start on this truck. Hopefully soon 😃
Loved the breakdown on what’s in store for this truck, it’s going to be awesome Zane! Again congratulations brother, well deserved! It’s incredible how fast this project and your channel took off! Even when you filmed this it was at 700 and by the time you post it over 1k...shoot by the time I finish this comment you may be a 2k 🤣.
Thanks James! 😂 I can only hope my luck will continue
Can't wait to see the work on the project! Can't wait to see it done! Please work as much as possible on this project and don't work on 20 projects at once as other channels do and never finish any of them or it takes forever.
Thank you for the input! 🙂👍 I will try to get projects done in a reasonable amount of time
@@HODGEPODGEDODGEGARAGE I am not saying you should finish it in a couple of weeks, i don't think it's possible, but don't have it done in two years :)) Can't wait to see it finished! It's will be awesome with the Unimog wheels!
@@cristian6766 oh yeah lol. I'm going to try and have it done in a reasonable amount of time 🙂👍
Really impressive illustration! And for sure the only automotive youtuber that I follow who has put such an effort into it. Nice!
Thanks for the kind words Eirik! :) I greatly appreciate that my friend. Take care
Zane check out JC Smith Projects , he does frame stretches and mods. Watch the clutch linkages on the F series, the relay rod from the pedal to the z bar is a weak link.wears at the piviots. We had 330 cid's famous for dropping valves. 390 cid is a good one. The governor is a velocity activated system which mounts under the carb it can be removed. Good explanation on your mods! Ed
Thanks Edmund! 🙂👍 I used to watch his channel quite a bit. I'll check those linkages 🙂
Sounds like quite the project
Thank you! 🙂👍 I appreciate the view
Will be interesting to see your build. I have been building towing and recovery vehicles for the last 22 years. You should gets lots of attention with the 4x4 rollback.
Thank you Jeff! :) I appreciate the view and kind comment
I really enjoyed your visual explanation of the project, look forward to it coming together!
Thank you 🙂👍 the kind words mean a lot
Big plans Zane,
Major undertaking. Make sure you plate the inside of frame where you join it.
The outer doubler frame addition will then have more to bolt to. Gonna be a cool truck when you finish it.
On the stuck engine, pull the plugs first, might be hydro-locked. Put the truck in fourth and rock it, might break loose.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks JT 🙂👍 I'll plate the inside also. Forgot to mention that. I put transmission fluid in the cylinders. It sat for about two weeks and still wouldnt budge. Good call on putting it in 4th and rocking it 😃👍 I'll have to try that
such a cool project, cant wait to see it come to glory!
Thanks Nick! 😃👍 I appreciate the kind words
Cool set up. Looking forward to seeing the project come together. Keep the videos coming!
Thanks 😃 I appreciate the view and kind comment 🙂👍
Man! I’m looking forward to watching this project progress forward. 👍
Thank you Nate! I really appreciate the view and kind words 🙂👍
Looking Great Zane, and a great drawing board diagram for what you are going to do with the 2 trucks!! Glad you are staying positive out there And working still!!
Be safe! Peace and love bud!!
Thanks as always Brian! :) Peace and love your way my friend
This build will be awesome great clear demonstration
Thank you Coty! I appreciate the kind words :)
Great plan can't wait to see the progress of your build
Thanks Scot! 😃 I appreciate the kind words
That F600 4x4 is what got me to sunscribe! Hopefully i get to see some 4x4 action!
Thanks for subscribing! 😃👍 I greatly appreciate that!
HODGE_PODGE_DODGE_GARAGE youre welcome😎
I think that was the best breakdown of the project idea I have seen yet. Nice job! 👍👍
Thank you :) I appreciate the kind words. I was hoping I made sense lol
Really fantastic work Zane, thank you. I really enjoyed the hand drawn diagrams. These are amazing capable machines, glad to see someone else saving and rebuilding them!
Thank you for the kind words 🙂 I really appreciate the support
Chrome grilles & bumpers were factory options on those trucks. Looks like an exciting project!
Thanks Wesley! 😃👍
@@HODGEPODGEDODGEGARAGE get a hold of me before you get too deep into it. I might have some useful info for you!
@@WesleyJohnsonMI will do! 👍🙂 thanks
Like the old chrome try too use it on the 4 wd truck looks so cool
@@davidcatlette9697 that chrome grill is awesome! 😃👍
3.33 K Subscribers!! Congratulations. Keep posting, loving the content.
Thank you John! I really appreciate the kind words :)
your channel is growing fast!!!!!!
can't wait to see the project finished.
Thank you Audie! :) I appreciate the kind words
Can't wait to see the progress looks like it Will be a beast
Thank you Wilton! 😃👍 I appreciate the kind words
Nice video, like the paper cut thing, easy way to understand were your going with your project!
Thank you. I appreciate the kind words 🙂👍
This is a unique awesome truck project. You would be able to recover vehicles in places that would normally wouldn’t think of.
I just subscribed today. I can’t wait to see the project completed ya definitely got your work cut out for ya. Just take your time and do it right and you’ll get there.
Hope you have a Blessed One Sir.
Thank you Eddie! :) The kind words mean a lot. I truly appreciate that
I think the bed on the rollback truck it's a Holmes bed nice breakdown looking forward to this project I will subscribe thanks
Thanks for the information Greg! 🙂👍 I also appreciate the subscription
Hey! I'm from Washington, Mo originally!
That's awesome! 😃👍 fellow Missourian
Great videos keep them coming
Thanks for the kind words Josh! :)
Awesome content !
Thank you! :) I appreciate the support
Well, you now have 3.7K subs as of now. Watched your last ones on the F600 and sub'd right there! Going to go back and watch the rest.. Got nothing else to do with being locked down and no place to go, except work, and that's being done remotely now., but I've always liked wrenching on stuff.. Just can't have the setup you and other's have with all the property to store that kinda stuff! Wife would not let me do that, even if I had the property! :)
Thanks for the kind words Mitch :) I really appreciate that my friend.
The Can-we-get-this-filthy-abandoned car/truck/tractor/etc running again theme seems very popular and successful on You Tube. I sure enjoy em. BTW, it's probably a 361 FT motor, as I noted previously. FE meant Ford Edsel, FT meant Ford Truck. Passenger vs. Industrial versions.
Thanks for the kind words 🙂👍
I love your whiteboard explanation! And yes I am female, lol!!!
Thank you Roxanne! 🙂👍 I truly appreciate the kind words. Seems like everyone enjoyed the drawing portion. I plan on trying to incorporate that into future videos as well. Thanks for watching and take care 🙂🔧
Also, fantastic job on the arts and crafts section of the video
Thanks Sam! 🙂 I was hoping it would help. I'm not the best with describing things
Just found ur channel already love it I bet this channel will grow quickly excited to see what u have coming
Thank you for the kind words :) they are much appreciated my friend
I liked the diagram picture representation! Good explanation of the process. Curious to see what/how you are going to move the split chassis sections. I struggled moving F150 halves around in the past, but I did not have access to heavy equipment. It was 'baby steps' with little tractors and hydraulic jacks. 👍
Thanks for the kind comment! :) I truly appreciate that. Hopefully it goes as smooth as I'm thinking lol
looking forward to this build
Thanks for the view and kind comment! :)
I used to work for the International dealer here in Louisiana and I've done this job before. I think the hardest part will be driveshaft length. We were fortunate to have a person in our shop that was very good at building driveshafts. We'd measure out the shaft and he'd build it. It was always right on the money!
However, it might be easier to just swap out the frames. The advantages of this is NO cutting or alignment worries, which are always a hassle anyway. Swapping bodies and drivetrain, as well as the engine, may take more time, but is way easier than all of the cutting and alignment worries you'll deal with in the long run. There is a strength advantage as well. An uncut frame is generally stronger than a cut and welded frame.
I'm also a new subscriber and am enjoying the work you're doing on this old truck to bring it back to life. I binged this entire series about this truck and really enjoy this type of TH-cam content.
Thank you for the comment and support Daniel! :) I truly appreciate that. I'm cutting the frame because I plan on adding something...Don't like giving away surprises..stay tuned my friend! ;)
@@HODGEPODGEDODGEGARAGE You know it, my friend!
Keep up the great work 👍
Thanks Sean! 🙂👍
New subscriber here too!!!!!!! Best channel so far. Absolutely love the content in these videos
Thank you Brandon! 🙂👍 I truly appreciate the view and kind words my friend. They mean a lot
Love the channel, love all the old equipment. I'd personally love to see a twin boom Holmes 600 on the back of one of those old rigs.
Thanks Sam! 😃👍 oh yeah, a Holmes bed would be awesome! I seen one here on TH-cam a while back. 🙂
Just came across this channel , gotta say it's pretty good so far , I liked the idea and I think it will be great , you sir just got another subscriber
Thanks for the sub and kind words 🙂👍. I greatly appreciate that
I'm all school I love old pieces of machinery
Thanks Kenneth! 😃👍 I appreciate the older, well built machinery also. Everything's made to just throw away now
Love those older Fords!
Thanks for the view and kind comment :)
Good job
Thanks John! 🙂👍
Ambitious, I like it!
Thanks Jeff! 😃👍 I appreciate the kind words my friend
That's gana be pretty awesome!! It's a shame that roll back ended up like that, but it's great you are going to be able to use a lit of it. Going to be fun following you on this deal
Thank you Andrew! 🙂👍 I appreciate that
G'day, greetings from Australia. I love what your doing mate. It's a dream of mine to have my own work shop and a Field of old cars that I'd eventually get to working on. But all I can say mate is that im loving the videos and keep it up
Greetings! :) Thanks for the kind words my friend. I truly appreciate that
Hi Zane! Just discovered your channel! great content. Looking forward following this project. Really like the yellow F600 and you really have great plans with it. Will be checking your channel regularly from now on. I come from the Nethetlands and we don't have that much cool and old truck over here. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the view and kind words. :) That means a lot.
361 ft 4 barrel. Parts interchangeable with the rest of ft family.
Thanks for the view and information Randall 😁👍 Have a nice evening 🔧🔩
gonna be a super cool truck! I love 4x4 odd stuff. There is a guy in my town with an E250 4x4 van, converted to a dump I think...
Thanks :) I REALLY want one of those 4x4 vans. They are super cool. I appreciate the view and kind comment
Yes Ford had chrome bumpers and grilles in that era factory. FEs were known for dropping valves. And that looks like a Cheveron bed.
Thanks for the view and info! 🙂👍
Chrome grills and bumpers were an option .
We had a old 75 F 600 that came from the factory with Chrome grill and bumper
Thanks for the view and kind comment John! 😀👍 much appreciated
Love it. You got this. I’m personally a junk man and that’s a great truck compared to some of the stuff that I work with.
Thanks for the view and kind comment! 🙂👍 its greatly appreciated
A 391 and a 361 are quite different from a 390 or 360.
The way to tell a 391. from anything else is; there are 2 extra exhaust manifold bolts near the center ports. The 391 also has 2 thermostats. There are some internal differences too.
Thanks for the view and info. :) I'm not too familiar with the Fords lol.
The chrome grille and bumper were common on fire trucks. Same with the chrome west coast mirrors.
The engines are most likely 361 and 391 engines.
Oh, I didn't know that Harold! 😀👍 Thanks for the info my friend 🙂
Liked this video
Thanks for the view! 🙂👍 much appreciated
1st time viewer, new subscriber! Thanks Zane 🙏
Thank you! :) I truly appreciate that. It means a lot :)
If you decide to put a hot Cummins in add a a pair of chrome six inch stacks it'll be a real eye catcher
Stacks would look great on this truck, that's for sure. Thanks for the view and kind comment :)
That cab and chassis on roll back is. Worth. 3k up here in metro NYC, all got used up decades. Ago
I think the chrome bumper and grille from the roll back might still be worth something to someone. Someone who's decent with panel beating may be able to straighten them out and make them usable, which could be good if they're rare or unusual parts...
That is true! :) Thanks for the view and comment
New sub here. Never saw your channel before but very interested in seeing this project completed. I have a 79 ford myself that I want to get running again but it's been sitting since 2005.
Thank you Josh! :) I appreciate the view and subscription. You have a '79 also huh? Thats cool! :) Hopefully you can get it running soon. What engine does it have?
@@HODGEPODGEDODGEGARAGE 5.8 liter 351.
@@josh33025 oh nice! I had a 351 in my 1985 F250. An Edelbrock performer intake woke that engine up! 🙂👍
I've seen those chrome grills before, not sure what option package got them. I liked how you used CAD "Cardboard Aided Drafting" to describe what your plans are!
CAD! 😂😂 that's a good one Jason! I figured that was the best way to try and describe the idea
That would have been about impossible to explain without the visual.
@@sparksfireandbalingwire8467 I thought so too 🙂 I just hope it made sense lol
That’s gonna be really cool when u cut your frames in half cut them in a 45 degree angles makes them way stronger when welded and a lot less prone to cracks 👍
Thanks for the suggestion and view Stephen! :)
Heck yeah buddy almost 5k subs!! I hope you keep growing and build some more bad ass ol fords! Need to do a 78/79 bronco. I've owed 6 in my 35 years, shooting myself in the foot because I dont have any of them anymore
You had 6? That's awesome! :) I would like to run across one here pretty soon. I seen one a while back that had dana 70's front and rear. I guess they were older military axles. It was a beast. With a 460 too :)
@@HODGEPODGEDODGEGARAGE yeah I got my first when I was 15. Had a 351m and a c6 auto. 35" swampers and cut off exhaust lol. Welded the spider gears front and rear. It was my huntin truck. Since then I've had a bunch. My biggest street legal one was a 78 with a built 427, granny low 4spd, 44" cut boggers, 4.56 posi rear open front. In the perfect circumstances, I could lift the front a lil bit In 4lo. It's the only full size truck I've had that would float, I've had a few toyotas and jeeps that would but not a bronco
@@levikelley1842 44's! Nice 😃👍
@@HODGEPODGEDODGEGARAGE I live in central Florida so there is plenty of swamps around. Sad thing is these days a 1ton on 44s ain't nothing. If you aren't running 2 1/2 tons and v treads you ain't running with the big dogs. I miss the good ol days. That yellow truck should perform well for you. As long as your drivetrain holds up, you should be good. What tires do you plan on running?
@@levikelley1842 that's true lol. Everything inside now has v-tread tires. I've got some unimog tires to throw on this truck 🙂👍
Gonna be a huge undertaking to change all of that but you can handle it ....would be a good idea to plate the inside of chassis as well better to be safe than sorry ....
Thanks 🙂👍 yeah I plan on plating the inside for extra strength
It looks like a old Holmes. I had a1980 Holmes roll back. It looks very similar.
Thanks for the view and kind comment Stephen :) It could very well be a Holmes bed. I'll have to dig around a bit more when I can to find out. Take care and be safe out there :)
Other than a couple of J-hook chains the stinger on the roll back is pretty much complete. It was never intended to be a wheel lift type stinger. It was for towing junk cars not nice cars. You just put that round pipe up against the bumper and used a couple of j-hook chains to hook it up. Real low tech and fine for junk cars or vehicles with bumpers that can deal with it.
Thanks for the support and comment 🙂👍 I appreciate that and the info
Zane, subscribed! Like your explanation and the way you do videos... Very laid back and a great change from a lot who are obnoxious, keep it the same sir! One question... Will going to the 4x4 setup change the height of the rollback bed, and if different, does that present any problems with geometry for the bed as it rolls on and off the frame?
Thanks for the kind words Kevin. I truly appreciate that :) As for the geometry, I'm not 100% sure at the moment. I would guess it will change to an extent. Hopefully it's not enough to really affect it. We shall see :)
I’m a viewer from NJ that’s wild that it’s out there now
Thanks for the view Jared! :) I thought the same. That's quite the drive for a piece of equipment lol
Holy crap Zane! That's brilliant! Clear, concise and clever. I'm overwhelmed by your drawing skills. I'm amazed that both trucks are gas, not diesel. Would it be worth it at this late stage to change to a 7.3 powerstroke?
Thanks Alexander! 🙂👍 I may (way later down the road 😂) swap the engine. A 7.3 would be awesome! I think the wiring can get messy with them. It may be a possibility though, never know! 😃👍 thanks for the kind words my friend
How about a 5.9 Cummins swap later down the road hahaha! Love the channel just subscribed!
Thanks Boss! :) That may be in the near future my friend. I really appreciate the kinds words and subscription! :)
Over 1000 subscribers, Must be all the Ford videos lately!!!!!!!!!!!!! c};o)
That's probably true David! 😂 thanks buddy!
The engine might be a 331 industrial. FEs came in many different strokes and bores. Look forward to more videos
Thanks for the view and comment Robert :)
Marazzo's is still in business lol
Yeah 😃 had a few people link the Facebook page. That's cool they're still around 🙂👍 thanks for the view
Try to save the vintage light bar on the roof.
For sure! 😃👍
Hello there is a vid came out 9/2/2020 from a car parde in cottage grove oregon it shows a 1950?? Gmc white color Roll back nice shape cjd🇺🇸😷🤔 enjoy
Oh awesome! 🙂👍 thanks for the info, ill check it out.
BTW, congrats on busting 1K subs!!!
Thanks Jason! 🙂 I appreciate it buddy
Is it possible just to use the truck frame from the rollback and move all the parts from the yellow truck over. That would be far better than cutting the frame in my opinion. They are both f600 the possibility is pretty strong.
That's true. Only problem is how time consuming that would be. I'd have to pull the engine, transmission, transfer case, wiring etc. The way I'm doing it, I may actually have it done before too long 🙂👍 thanks for the view and kind comment
Can't beat the old Ford's
I had a 1959 Ford F700 fire truck that was in great shape with low mileage. Wanted to take the fire body off and put on a flatbed with ramps or a rollback but sold it all when I needed to buy a vehicle in 2012. Wish I had gone through with the project now 😔
I hear you there. I've had to sell stuff before to buy a daily driver. There's plenty of old trucks out there though 🙂👍 I see it as you can always run across something more cool 😉
@@HODGEPODGEDODGEGARAGE yes buddy your exactly right about that. I'm in the middle of farm country and have a CDL so their is some good stuff around.
@@kylebass4635 for sure! 😃👍 having a CDL helps. I have an A myself
@@HODGEPODGEDODGEGARAGE mine is a B with tank and hazmat for a fuel truck. Diesel, Kerosene, and gasoline.
@@kylebass4635 nice! 😉👍 a guy can usually get a good job with those endorsements. 🙂
I had a 74 F600 with the 361 or 361 FT (ford truck) motor, I'm pretty sure it's just like the other motors, just heavy duty, I'm not sure if the 360 and 391 are tall deck motors. Mine had a ramp truck body, but registration and insurance in CT was ridiculous and I couldn't afford to register it
That's no fun. Luckily it's reasonable here in Missouri :) Thanks for the view and comment
It would. Badass to put the yellow cab, engine, and axles under this one and make it a tandem rear axle, which can be easy with Rockwell axles
That would be sweet! 😃👍 thanks for the view
@@HODGEPODGEDODGEGARAGE I dont think I explained it well enough though. Keep the roll back frame intact and move the cab and axles and suspension from the yellow truck to the roll back. And then move the engine. I believe the 360/390 and 391 share the same bell housing pattern but may be wrong on that so swapping in the 391 shouldn't be too hard.
@@WeBleedGreen1 I understand 🙂👍 I plan on adding something to the truck though...dont want to give away surprises lol 😉 stay tuned!
@@HODGEPODGEDODGEGARAGE dont worry. I'm subbed and waiting
@@WeBleedGreen1 thanks for the support! 🙂👍