Senzo Meyiwa murder trial | 15 August 2023
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2023
- The state in the Senzo Meyiwa trial is expected to call a new witness when the trial resumes today. Two digital forensic experts were called to testify about the chain of evidence during the Meyiwa murder trial at the High Court in Pretoria last week. Five men are on trial for the murder of the soccer star who was shot and killed in 2014. Meyiwa was at singer Kelly Khumalo's mother's house in Vosloorus, east of Johannesburg when he was shot.
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I'm not happy with the judge it seems like he has a tendency of answering on behalf of the witnesses and he's always against the defence attorneys , he's acting more like a prosecutor than a judge
If only knew how irritating that is, and besides irritation it is wrong
In my understanding these are minor things and it already explained I love this judge we need to go forward it’s a long way ahead of us these witnesses are too many
That's what I have noticed too
I agree
I don't trust the judge now
We gonna need trauma counseling as a nation 😭😭💔. Hearing about Senzo gunshot wound on the chest so painful 😢😢😢
This judge is so full of himself trying to prove he's got experience undermining the defence
He has a huge head about it. I agree with you
Thanks Mshololo for standing up against this stubborn judge.
The judge interferes far too much, allow the process to flow Mr judge.
All we want is justice for Senzo Meyiwa
They always blame Mshololo for checking qualifications and training now see
If Meyiwa was shot by the intruders the Catridge would be found on the floor but now he was shot by one of those who were in the house that is why the cartridge was not found...The cartridge was removed because of the serial number then the owner of the GUN would be discovered..obvious we know whose gun that shot Meyiwa.
your brain is working 😅
All people were in that house are lieying
I always asked myself where is the cartridge
Senzo was swimming in Corocodile infested river🤔
Two many hidden things here because from Zandi,Mthoko and Tumelo none of them ever mentioned the uncle being in the house or neither did they see the uncle
Andi how come she didn't knw that her uncle was present in the scene and don't mention it...
They are all lieying
Can i have Mshololo as my lawyer
This judge must let the witness answer questions. Period.
This judge talks too much guys
People who was in the house they know everything
The judge is annoyingly interrupting the defense counsel. He wants to lead evidence of State witnesses.
I love the way this officer has conducted himself throughput this cross-examination 👏. He keeps his answers shot and sweet.
Yup
Mara uyaphapha umshololo to be honest ukhuluma noma yikanjani
But he failed to do his job properly as a police officer when he arrivedon the crime seen, that speaks volume... 🙄 😒
@@songezodsd8590 Akaphaphi wenza umsebenzi wakhe ufuna iqiniso ufuna kuvele ukuthi uSenzo wadubuleka kubantu ababevele bephakathi endlini
This is an officer who lacks confidence and on the day was very incompetent. The judge sides with him that he could not tell anything had happened. Did he ask Themba why he was in the house and if the neighbours had confirmed someone had been shot in that house. Could he have not asked other officers from the office to go to the hospital and confirm this?@@songezodsd8590
Senzo Meyiwa was gunned down about 5 km from a police station , and no one in the house remembered 10111... you can walk from the police station to the hospital, approximately 2 km... the mode of transportation was a BMW X6 , but when he gets to the hospital, he s dead on arrival
Exactly
@estheruthmk2494 those people were making sure he doesn't survive for some reason
@@nokuthulamahlangu8727 and the case was only reported 4 hours to the police after the shooting incident...
@@tshumelomukwevho7623hundred percent correct
This is soo sad 😢😢😢
Mshololo should've asked ok you said there was nothing showing at the house that there it was a crime scene so what do you mean by that?how did the crime scene look?
Why is Kelly Khumalo not being called? This case is nothing without her.
And she kept saying "i want my day in court! On her reality show we need her to come through
Kelly is not a witness. She is a suspect, hence no appearance from her side
Remember the state is building a case against the 5 accused so if the bring the weakest links like Kelly, Longwe no Ma khumalo they will definitely loose this case. There are too many loop holes regarding the 3
The Judge is letting me down, I am about to give up about this case😊
Since this judge took over the speedy or pace of this trial 👌
Kante this uncle how did he knew about the incident and managed to arrive before the police ...or he leaves nearby ??
Why did the judge intervene when advocate Nxumalo was telling Mthethwa that his statement was not tallying with the timelines.
How can a pocket book destroyed when the case is still on
There is no seriousness
His liar we keep those books until until we still have 1990 pockets book at my station
@@MartinVilakazi-ft9de
🤔Then he's hiding something.
@nokuthulamahlangu8727 Yes, cause he didn't record what he said he recorded on the pocket book
@MartinVilakazi even OB books at Security are not destroyed m suprised
Black Mamba Mr Nxumalo ❤
So this judge never interjects when the state attorney presents their case, but when the defense state their case he has an opinion.....Hlf past 4 🤞
It seems like he's bias towards the defence
10 pass 4 🤣🤣🤣
Infact quarter to 4😂😂
He doesn't have to do that because it the leading evidence not cross examination
What is the duty of the police if the judge condones the wrong that the police did. It was a crime scene, they were supposed to do their job regardless of the presence of the uncle. This shows the whole system is rotten to the core, including this judge
Exactly my point. Justice must be served for Senzo
I want to hear the judge when the state asks questions to the defence witnesses
HE NEVER INTERRUPTS THE STATE EVEN A BLIND MAN CAN C THAT 😢😢😢
The Judge always seems to undermine the defence Lawyers it is embarrassing
I thought he needed to be fair all round
Disappointed I am
That house was no longer a crime scene
Exactly
Oooh I get it now, the JUDGED is the STATES LAWYER.......CLEAR
The problem with the judge try so hard to prove his intellectual capacity and he at times become irrelevantly so interrupting..I still belive with him,justice will be served thou 🙏🏽and quicker than it could have been
This witness can cancel cartridge and put bullet but he failed to cancel the mistake of that he found the bullet on the floor not on the zink as he indicated on same sentence…is amazing how he managed to spot that mistake but failed to spot the crucial mistake on zinc vs floor
Seems to me that second docket had relevant statements and pictures which were not taken at 1st docket like the pictures of the park 😳
He is taking sides
@@zanelencube5153he is trying to be a teacher of which isn’t wrong ligal but jah he over do at times
He likes to show off with his intelligence😢😊
@@noziphokhumalo6090 🤣🤣jah we seeing him ..is mindset of the old educated people like most old professors are like that🤷🏾♂️I don’t know maybe is how their education systems was 😂they feel themselves and brag proudly so with “knowledge”..for me I honestly have massive believe on him expecially that he is a retired judge.they most fair than any ambitious judge who are easly captured
@2:43:51 check the judge's reaction uuumm he feels terribly sorry for the officer
The judge is not against the defence..he's not protecting anyone... He just want witnesses to relax and expose themselves 😂
😂😂❤true
Can someone explain how come Kelly Khumalo managed to do a sim swap and also communicate with the suspects🤔
She requested either Tumelo/ Mthoko or Her Uncle who was guarding the house while they were in hospital to make the phone call, it's clear a male person had to pretend to be Senzo...she must tell us
@@faithkhumbhuza6165I don’t understand this
Nkosi yami 😢😢
Lelijaji ave liyisebenzisa kabuhlungu i defence, he always interfering
Well done Mshololo stick to the truth and facts.
😂😂😂kangcane kangcane ayavela labaphoyisa angene ngo-conneçtion😅
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣no comment my Lord🏃🏃🏃🏃
Usevelaphi futhi lomalume owaficwa ekhaya lobugebegu yet akukho noyedwa ufakazi okhuluma ngaye😮😮, I give u ngomthetho wase SA
Mshololo why are you not asking him about Themba Khumalo who confirmed that there had been a shooting. He says he needed someone at the crime scene to confirm. This man can raise his voice when he wants.
Im with the judge 100% the mkhulu knows his work mann
Mr Mthethwa, I love your response to this training question - i will go home and write down all my courses and bring them tomorrow 😅😂
😂😂😂 nje
@sibongilejembula5652 ayijiki lento, the list is so long he needs the night to get them all down 😅😅
Please judge,justice for senzo, it's clear that Kelly had communication with the intruders, can she come to court as well
😂 The is a new Khumalo Uncle they just mentioned, i trust that he's on that witness list.
5:13:12 Baloyi wants to use photos from the second docket “375”❓… I thought that docket still awaits a decision that depends on the outcome of this case 🙆🏾♂️
I have concerns with the judge sometimes. I admit that he does offer guidance to the councillors but sometimes, ayi ayi...... is as if he is in the side that he shouldn't be at.
This judge smiles when Baloyi rises
The person who made Senzo Meyiwa famous couldn't be recognised by the police officer but the same police officer recognised Senzo Meyiwa same time, my question is "who made who famous"?
😂 Hai!
Kunzima
😂😂😂😂
Senzo made himself famous by being a star player at that tym.
Police were called late🤞
Amaphoyisa anamanga and noMaggie Phiri ukhohlakele ucishe ubufakazi ngenhloso
Why would the police hand in their pocket books with notes on matters that are still pending or ongoing......
That is how it works as he also said they hand over the old ones when they are full in exchange for new ones
Viva mshololo 🙌
Ay it's a joke sure😂😂
I am still confused about the hat...kante why is the hat not being tested for DNA to identify the owner 🤔🤔
Ke maketse lenna Wa tseba🤔
Barobha umsebenzi abawenzisanga lama phoyisa babengacabangi ukt kuzofika kule level shuthi into abayijwayele
They were just negligent they need to being Kelly her Mum and Longwe
True hey into abayjwayele
This doesn't make sense that a police officer sees cans of alcohol in the dining room but doesn't see blood stains of the said shooting then goes to hospital then he comes back there are blood stains not even a lot of blood
Mbulazi kaMashobane. When a person is shot in the Head and chest alibikhona igazi eliningi kuba ilawo ma blood stain nje as lisho iphoyisa.
Ilokho nje mtakababa
So Kelly lied about lot of blood comin from the wound?? Hence Tumelo said loyo makeze azo caza lombedo wakhe....yho
You're a star Mshololo hat's off
I trully have a huge respect for mshololo honestly she is the best❤❤
We hoping for the best, in all all our witnesses
People fail to understand that there's a huge difference between in the sink on the table and on the floor
Love love how Adv Mshololo handled the cross examination of Mthethwa👌👌
Ayy imbudane amaphoyisa akhohlakele eSA😢😮
Is this guy a judge or a coach.cause really is irritating by clicking the pen
A very sober judge!
Themba Khumalo opened the same that allege intruders used with bare hands? The Khumalos and all people in that house are cruel
Police Leadership in East Rand also got involved
In cover up. SA is really scary. Most people seem to be involved in criminality for money
Remember also the MEC of Safety in Gauteng also visited the khumalos family together with high police officials
This case is far to end ..we need kelly and Longwe here ! 😢
Nje!!! finish and klaar
And i wish i could be the prosecutor on that day
Mshololo ❤
Uncle bekakuphi all along its the first rime we heard about him🙄🙄
Someone cleaned the scene, why, no cartridges were found? Surely criminals didn't have time to clean, Someone from within policeoramongthose who were in the house cleaned the scene. Why?
Senzo wash shot with a revolver, n the revolver does not spit catriges. The remain on the wheel of the gun
What a rubbish judge! Nobody knew the relatives were suspect? What has that to do with securing a crime scene? Aren’t you supposed to just secure the crime scene!
Uyabheda lo judge nxa
It's so strange that the police forgot his course and his duties ay South Africa madoda kuse creche
Who called Mr Mthethwa to the scene?, as they were told the House number why did they proceed to the room if they had found the house number. They were supposed to secure the house number not the room
Yesessss mshololo want to see mthethwa qualifications tomorrow
The Judge is not make sure really. He is like a hired gun
😂😂
Baloyi should've been an author hai hai 😂 this man writes everything even a greeting 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣No mann...
😂😂😂😂 and he doesn't get tired
🤣🤣🤣U can say that again
I was wondering what is it that his writing 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Mshololo is true when the crime committed is police responsibility to take control of the scene no matter if you are the owner of the house. Police must take control until they are certain of the crime. Uncle was supposed to be asked to wait outside until further notice. outside..Among 4 police officers not even a single one who thought of the ryte decision. Very funny
So there was an uncle in the house 😮😮😮
And why do Saps use pocket books and destroy them with crucial information 🤨🤨🤨
Maphiri removed the cans on the scene😮😮😮Maphiri said why must the police be called because Senzo is still alive 😕😕😕
I put it to you that Mr judge is speaking on behalf of the state witness 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Funny how the pocket book of this witness disappeared 😢
Ksasa sicela Uma kolobha ,Lo ongafuni ama Police
If really, there were "intruders" why the need to clear the crime scene?
The judge defends the witnesses
Indeed my lord
Baloi is not fair why not calling people in the house??
It's not up to him but up to the state 😊
This judge he doesn't play at the end we will see him he was once sentence head of police Mdluli to prison
😂😂😂😂
Yes Mnisi carry on uyeke lo une experience yobuJaji
Guys pls clearify for me the police sand they meet kelly when they entered hospital were was rushing? left all the people at hospital
They want to see the person who is shoot
This Judge.... Is not make sure. He got an envelope
Not one envelope maybe 4 envelope
All ready his received dear
This trial is not flowing tjoe todae there is nothing to do with who shot Senzo
Mr Mthethwa Speak like a police officer Mshololo 😊
But Adv Mshololo,the crime scene, might have tempered even before the police arrived.
First time ever in this case hearing about Malume Khumalo
Brand new from the shop sana
It was mentioned also before denovo by the same witness
Interesting
😂😂😂 I was looking for you! So true! From where did This Mr Khumalo come from now? I mean where was I😂😂😂 all this time
I just can't wait for ma-phiri to take a stand, i don't know why
Sometime Mshololo she is too harsh or maybe she getting too much praise from the nation. Her question is what made Zandi to answer Nxumalo that am not your wife. I mean question with respect and with no intentions of embarrasing witnesses with qulifivations
SA police i give up😢😢
This is what happens where there's nepotism.
Currently, there are SAPS application forms, and our children go for medical and all that stuff b4 they can submit.
When they are supposed to reply to their application, they are quiet as if they all die.
Our government is failing us 😢 .
for the first to hear abt mr khumalo
Now we know that the Khumalos and everyone else who aas there, their Uncle and Thabiseng cooked the whole story, why not key witnesses called to the stand to speed up prosecution 😢😢😢 Senzo's Mom is waiting please
But with my own understanding if I'm correct the Ngobeni family bayabakhipha abakwa Khumalo ecaleni. Neighbours bafika ngokuphazima kweso after hearing the whistle blower and noise however Makhulo told them that Senzo has been shot by intruders . Ku closing argument the state and their Attorney's will say or argue that balakha nini itulo lokuthi kwangena ama intruders ngokushesha okungaka. Thats my take mtanasekhaya.
What is the point of this ? Reading these statements... Sumerise them please advocate, you are wasting time
Judge my judge 😂😂
Is the judge for me 😂😂😂😂😂😂
According to my understanding to it's like this police officer is corrupt or he's hiding something
Exactly
This mapiri tempered with crime cine n she knows what she was doing cs 2 witnesses said mapiri said she dnt want the police to c that there were drinking which means when zandy went to mapiri told her the truth, she needs to be arrested for defeating the hands of justice
Maphiri is the chief architect in creating the intruder story. Themba was told to play dumb until everyone was put on the same page.
Kanti vele why angaboshwanga?
@@siphonengu5436 true
If themba said he doesn't know what happened, he was only summoned only to guard the house. Wad the was ppl in the yard if there was nothing suggesting the was no crime committed????logic
Mshololo akabafuni abangafundile
😂🤣
😂😂😂
I hates this judge his defending one way and his trying by All means😢😢