Senzo Meyiwa Murder Trial | 08 September 2023
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- The trial of five men accused of killing soccer star Senzo Meyiwa continues in the Pretoria High Court.
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What about Zandile who insult Advocate Nxumalo in front of him he never said anything yoh this Judge is too much
Rubbish wena Jaji
Tumelo once insulted the 5 accused, but you never said anything, biased corrupt old man nxxxx
Even Zandile did insult Advocate Nxumalo he never said anything he kept quiet 🤫
He even failed to dwell on it whn Mshololo brought it up...
Mshololo tell him,he needs to control the court and witnesses from disrespecting defence team. JUDGE If you're not "IMPATHA" Mshololo wouldn't have to remind you about certain witnesses who were disrespectful towards advocates and you chose to keep quiet 🙄 Just give us a fair trial please, we dont care about your 50 years of experience!!
We really dnt..
Yazini
Exactly.
Yes yes yes
Exactly
Zungus voice sounds like senzos friend,
Mtokosizi twala...zungus voice jhoooo...comedy in SA
Same here, I also thought they speak alike.
Yes😂😂😂
Exactly Mthokozisi Twalas voice
People get angry when their hypotheses are disproved. We all had pre conceived ideas about the case and we struggling to accept the truth. Let us allow the court processes to the end. I'm seeing light at the end of this tunnel.
What makes you say what Zungu is saying is the truth?
I agree with you that in courts it's all about evidence put forward before the court.... The accused must prove that their innocent through their lawyers if they fail then they are going to jail...
@@mogotsimpho actually in a criminal matter the onus is on the State to prove the guilt of the accused beyond reasonable doubt. It's called the burden of proof. And that lies in the hands of the State. The defense should just provide and substantiate an alternative version.
100% they will rather believe izinkabi than the police etc.
This accused are not innocent before they said they don't know each other only accused 1&2 who are relative now the has revealed they are all know each other 😂
Judge you have no right to be emotional here, they are not in your house
Just be emotional wena judge mawuthanda
@@simphiwemyeza6600 Troll!!!
How can they go in the bedroom when u once said it was locked,,, these lawyers are weak serious, they are ignoring small important points to nail down this fake witness
This judge displays hostility towards the defence counsel. If he felt so passionate about the gesture that doesn’t give much for him to be so conclusive, why did he not respond to the Tumelo matter just as adamantly? This is selective bias. He is not consistent. Yet again!
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This judge is not fit for this case very arrogant
Zingu is also a hitmen
The judge never listen to the accused legal team. The accused asked the tape to be played but we all know what happened. Judge know it all ignored it
the judge is playing it well. he knows once he is neutral then his life will be in danger so he has to look like siding with the state. wait until Judgment Day
I just rewatched the video. He said he wrote the statement and signed it
The witness said he wrote the statement and signed it, the judge did not honor the request of the accused. Instead, he went all North causing confusion. The witness said he wrote the statement and signed it, these issue of notes it’s something that should have been avoided. I watched him while he was handling this, he never even went back to entertain the request of the accused…now he confused everyone with his lack of attending the accused request through adv Mnisi. With all of this, I am now confident that Zungu is not telling the truth, parts of what he is saying might be truth but I think everything that he says that seems to tie the accused these guys to murder of Senzo is cooked.
Lejaji lyaqala ukubonisa ubusalukazi
Today was full proof to me that the judge is not fair to the accused and is intimidating the defence. Zungu said he wrote the statement and signed it, the judge did not honor the request of the accused to replay the records. Instead, he went all North causing confusion. The witness said he wrote the statement and signed it, these issues of notes being turned to statement it’s something that should have been avoided. I watched him while he was handling this, he never even went back to entertain the request of the accused…now he confused everyone with his lack of attending the accused request through adv Mnisi. With all of this, I am now confident that Zungu is not telling the truth in the court, parts of what he is saying might be truth but I think everything that he says that seems to tie the accused to the murder of Senzo is cooked.
From nje ekuqaleni
Why would somebody intentionally put their life in danger by lying about these guys. These guys are contract killers. It's what they do for a living. You can't honestly believe that this guy would lie and put his whole family at risk. The problem is that everybody wants to believe that the people in the house had something to do with this.....that Longwe is the one who shot Senzo. THAT story was cooked by bored social media trolls who enjoy creating conspiracy theories. These guys are guilty. You can say what you like about the judge but the evidence ties these guys to the crime. The gun, the phone records, the eye-witnesses and the statements that they made to their friends about Senzo's murder. How did accused no. 1 know that Senzo was shot dead on the same day as the incident because it had not yet been put on social media or on the news at that time that they were talking at the hostel???
The legal team must insist on playing the record
Yazi GADLA HEARD HIM WELL
So zungu give gun to gwabini to put safe and was ask if he give the whole gun to gwabini including the magazine he said no he romoved the magazine,then late saw accused number 1and 2 in gwabini badroom handing over a gun almost the some as his and ask gwabini for his gun then gwabini gave him his gun he checked remove his magazine but i thought the gun had no magazine he had removed it first before handing over the gun to gwabini 🥺🥺🥺🥺something is not make sure 😳😳🤭🤭🚮🚮
True... Exactly my point
50 years of biasness experience
Yaz
Witnesses were busy insulting defense why was he quiet
uqeqeshwe amabhunu futhi… e apartheid
Impimpi zamabhunu lezi
I don't understand you ,south Africans if you are protecting the hitmen, whether are guilty or not in this case, but they are known hitmen for various other cases ,known or unknown....niyathakatha nina.....after all these are hitmen 😢😢😢😢
What happened to Snako the one that was shot by Gwabini with the gun that was thrown by the river?👀Judge arrest this officer!!
This interesting, what's happening with Geabini...
Gwabini*
@@siviwembatane3600I think Gwabini is their Godfather/Master because they get guns from him,used them and return to him if not thrown by the river 🤷♀️
😂
What about the behaviour of the judge that is concerning most of the time, aren't there going to be any references made and a warning be also given to him as a judge
Am trying to calculate how many years of working experience does our judge have and how old is he......😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂awu ayi hehehe😂😂😂😂
Adv. Mnisi no surrender!🔥🔥🔥🔥
This Judge needs to shut up and let the advocates do their jobs he has to much to say and thinks he is always right.
He doesn't think as you claim,HE IS ALWAYS RIGHT,EXPERIENCED AND SMART WITH THE LAW LET IT SINK INTO YOUR HEAD.
True
Ratha wa kaizer chiefs eish
Bull... what would notes be doing in KZN... the Judge and this Zungu guy..are unbelievable...
He wrote the statement and it was read back to him and he signed it. They then typed the statement abo Gininda and let him sign the typed one too. He did not say he made nates but he made a hand written statement under oath. Go play the vid at exactly 2hrs 18min 23sec, he explains that he wrote the statement with his own hand writing and this is on record.
I agree with Thulasizwemyeni that the statement in court was written by him with his own handwriting. No notes ever mentioned
But whatever he wrote are notes from those notes he proceeded to make a statement
So police interact with a politician about operational matters?
The police must search his pocket before entering his house .in Durban .....Gininda he's gonna right his statement afresh tonight and give it to him we are not fools by this corrupt
Zungu LIE he did nt wrote that statement . YES he read and signed it and GET pay for it
The devil is in the details. Defense should also create a time line that is where some of the answers might be found. An example is the issue of Tops . Does Tops open on Sunday and if it does what time does it close. People tend to focus on the bigger issues but forget small details like those
I HAVE NOO WORDS 4 THIS JUDGE
IMAGINE THIS COUNTRY YOH
@ Siphonengu
You've got a point there, I did an analysis this week Tuesday regarding this case on my you tube channel. I will do another one regarding this testimony because I also found a lot of things that did not make sense to me. For example, Zungu testifies that the c.38 did not have bullets, thereby pushing a narrative that the shooter was the one carrying the 9 Milimeter. The problem with that, according to those who were in the house the fire arm had a wheel, meaning it's the c.38. The other issue is that indeed Tops opens on Sundays from 9:00 - 15:00, so the story of them going to purchase liquor at tops on that day is as phoney as a 3 rand note bill.😂
@Zam-mi9wz 🤔🤔🤔🤔 the is a point there
@@Zam-mi9wz after shooting the .38 the shells could be emptied, remember he ''allegedly'' saw them after the incident
The witness is talking about when they were in Gwabinis room after coming back from committing murder.
Mnisi can handle this evil judge, my confidence is in him.
The judge is not evil ,Mnisi Nd his colleagues are evil by defending izinkabi 😢
@@CebileNdlovu-kg2vp Thank you, the Judge is not evil.
The judge is evil for protecting Longwe and pinning this on this people,they can be inkabis but they didn't kill Senzo finish and klaar
@@nthatirefilwe8992yes yes yes they didnt kill Senzo
@CebileNdlovu-kg2vp I think your views are directed at the wrong ppl,the constitution says the accused hv a right to legal representation
Police and inkabi,drinking together😢
They are the birts of the same feather
But I'm starting to lose hope in Ratha he sounds biased
He is very annoying to say the least
The witness was with the accused the night meyiwa was murdered. 1: Unlisenced fire arms were shown to him he even held them , 2:They were the 1st people to speak of this crime to him that day . The following day why he didn't do a follow up on that up until 2021
Warrant officer Makhubo should bring his case to court, Docket 375
This case gut WRONG leadership ratha le goliath ke 🚮 fela look at how far besternandipha case is but it just arrived ye maragaraga fela.goliath NEVER opened those stupid books last time ka tumelo he has the guts to this time around how weird,favouritism MUST fall o ithaya a re ke clever tshwene ya rotwe!We want those notes though he will write new ones today sataforika ke matlhabisa ditlhong tlhe.Le fa a ka swa it would be a minus one pro he wouldnt be the first witness to , he dug his own hole ka go aka THE TRUTH SHALL SETS US FREE!
#justice4senzo
#docket375
#FREEteffooo
#ARRESTbokelly
🇩🇪🇧🇼💔😡🇿🇦🚩👎🏿🤮
true that dear lots are still coming 🤬🤞
@@BMCDelight indeed eish this judge of your le goliath ba npherosa dibete tota 🤮 they call the shorts they think that court is theirs.Why does goliath always corner defense for his voice to be heard not theirs?ke Modimo??he wana rule ke mang ene kante?if you dont setswana its ur loss hahaha 🫣😝
@@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682 i dont understand setswana but i think i get what you meant 🤨
@@BMCDelightcase solved 👊🏿
But this 50 years experience it's seems wasted nje, how can you so bias kanje judge...so the defense lawyer can't defend their clients when judge wanted... where is that on law 101 😂😂😂😂
There's fine line between mocking and threatening.
Let's them go to jail
Who is them
That’s how we have so much gun crime in South Africa 🇿🇦 when a police man interacts with hitmen even giving them access to his service gun. They’re all criminals, from the President, Ministers and police officers. 😞 😮
That's TRUE
THERS NO L A W IN SOUTH AFRICA 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
That guy was supposed to BE ARRESTED YESTERDAY 😮😮
@@sarahmelodingvirginia2043say it again
@@sarahmelodingvirginia2043 uyahlanya
He gave his bag with a pistol inside to Gwabini , is Gwabini also a hit man ? Did Gwabini know what was inside the bag ?
Also the police thugs who gave them guns, and took those guns back😱😱, they must all go to jail 🤞
Usukuthathaphi lokho wena
@@simphiwemyeza6600 From constable zungu, namhlanje ukhuphe amaqiniso ngezi bamu, from police to 5 suspects
Its a foregone case, No Justice for Senzo, that Zungu guy is not a witness at all,, hw come a court permits a witness to go and fetch some notes in KwaZulu-Natal, only the statement which he signed under oath is to be used in court and there is no need for that statement to be altered again,,, this Court is playing with pple s minds,, Rest in peace Zenso, these guys know what happened to you and they received the brown envelope thats why they are doing what they are doing
And how did the notes get to KZN.? He just wanna buy time while he compiling the notes. There are no notes here.
seconded may his soul rest in peace
Why did Mnisi allow for notes to be collected
Mnisi must have his wikness on KZN journey
Well said👏👏
My question is did the noted travel to KZN and others remained here while he stays this side. He will write the so called notes now this one
Exactly mxm
He left with another lady to buy liquor and left his fire arm behind?
So what?
Shame zungu he were drunk and make stories for promotion
The constable is the middle man for Senzo assassination
Uzoboshwa wena
Yes, constable supplied them with guns, kellykhumalo paid the police thugs to kill senzo🤞🤞
@@bongsha2379 awumkhuze, akukhulunywa kanje. 🤣🤣🤣😂
I totally agree
I totally agree with you
Why was witness interested in 38?
U judge yini ayphikayo coz he did said he wrote the statement by himself and they typed it makudlalwe irecord
I am also curious about the judgement that will ne passed by the judge at the end of this trial because he is alwaus protecting the khumalos side and all witnesses who speak in favour of or against the accused. The biasness by the judge is extremely worrying
Today was full proof to me that the judge is not fair to the accused and is intimidating the defence. Zungu said he wrote the statement and signed it, the judge did not honor the request of the accused to replay the records. Instead, he went all North causing confusion. The witness said he wrote the statement and signed it, these issues of notes being turned to statement it’s something that should have been avoided. I watched him while he was handling this, he never even went back to entertain the request of the accused…now he confused everyone with his lack of attending the accused request through adv Mnisi. With all of this, I am now confident that Zungu is not telling the truth in the court, parts of what he is saying might be truth but I think everything that he says that seems to tie the accused to the murder of Senzo is cooked.
@@MkhuluMokoenastop protecting criminals simply because you or your family has not been victimized by these particular guys. These guys are hard core criminals and full time liars , all of them. Why did they deny that they know each other? 2. Why Gadla denied that at some point in time he had dreadlocks. 3. Why Ntanzi said in his bail application proceedings that on the fateful day of Meyiwa killing , he was at work in Rustenburg, jiki jiki, in one of his statement he said he was in KZN for lobola negotiations?
4. Sibiya why does he deny that he & witness Zungu are from the same area ?
5. The audacity for Ntuli to threaten the witness through his actions.
Asingabaphikeli labafana, yizigebengu zangempela lezi.
Asivumeni ukuthi Sonke asazi kwenzakalani because Sonke sasingekho endlini, if uZungu uqamba manga what is his motive to risk his life and put his whole family in danger ?
We all eager & keen to get to the bottom of this case & get answers at to who killed Senzo & the motive for that.
Khumalo's are innocent in terms of killing Senzo, it's very clear now but to some of us it has always been clear that those in the house did not pull any trigger
@@evidencesithole768 Likewise, to some of us it's always been clear that one of those in the house pulled the trigger. So?🤷♂️
@@Turtleback8024 lol 😂, lindani I Judge ke
People were already point fingers to the khumalos family and now we can all see that this guys knows what happened that day 😢😢
there's still the possibility of 1 of them being involved, remember there were calls from/to Kelly's phone from suspect(s)
These guys have nothing to do with this case
@user-ew8dt6mv9q I disagree with you on this one...why at first they said they didn't know each other and now it has been revealed that they knew each other
Buyeke.....
Loool niyahlekisa koda pho bona laba bakwakhumalo abezingani ukuzozikhulumela ngoba babekhona 🤔musani kudlala ngathi nina hawuu
Given the morality of Zungu regarding his professional conduct and work ethics, I can be certain there will be no notes whatsoever either in KZN or the safe house, he himself knows that to be true. He will take a road trip to KZN just for fun while he puts them together on his way. While he may present startling evidence in this court, he is a very scary police officer who is not far if not the same as the people he is testifying against.
100,00 percent in agreement
me 3 i third you on that 100000000 million percent
The use of a Graphologist will be crucial in examining those notes.
Judge has intimidated the defense so much that even when they answer they are constantly looking up at the judge.
That's what I noticed, all of them but Mshololo is better...but I don't blame it to the judge but to their lack of confidence due to being the low profile lawyers..if it was Barry Roxie it's a different story..
Only Stevovo. The rest are ok
But in Advocate Charles Mnisi i believe his the fighter this one.
They all hear 50 years experience 😂😂
@@user-bu1jl9hc1y😂😂😂😂😂😂
They must ask him when last did he go to KZN, since he wrote this statement, he is lying about the notes,
So he witness drank beer and then drove to drop off someone?😂
Our courts have now became commissions of enquiry, so many years to finalize one case, to wake up everyday talking of one thing brings an endless Justice, delaying
From my understanding the witness says names were placed one side as they were typing they will pick up names to include on the statement not from what he wrote cos if these are the very same notes he wrote names are not suppose to be confusing as they are now
These police officers cant lie straight in there beds at night
SA police system is weak! Why would policeman gave a gun to a friend? This policeman he broked the laws........he has to be a rested 😂😂😂😂😂😂
What if there was a reasonable circumstances I think he used his own discretion by keeping his gun in a safer place under his supervision.
Uzenza clever wena Zungu
Zungu his totally wrong on his saying and his crazy as well😂😂😂😂
Please people give this guys chance he is BUSY appliay for ORANGE UNIFORM ÀND FREE BORG
As it pleases the court...this judge is arrogant unnecessarily
I think this thing of calling them my lord is so wrong...
This judge is on fire😂he doesn’t care he got 50 yrs experience 😂
Yoo haai..law le yona..after sipping water ,,,thank you my lord I'm in debted haai
U yakwazi ukwenza imali Zungu and Uqinisekile next year uzoba yi warrant officer
If he will still be alive. Zungu has put his family at risk.
Not on this time he will be arrested
Not Zungu revealing on national television that he had to move his family back to KZN for safety purposes. They are in danger but he went ahead and revealed their whereabouts
Unamanga akashongo ukuthi ukuphi umndeni
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fake
Enjoy your weekend my lord. I look forward to listening to you again on Monday 😊 ❤
😂 oh you found a new friend I see.🤓
Why does the judge take Baloyis side ?
Baloyi fetched him from playing wirh his great gran kids at his farm n gave him a lucrative job..tts why😂😂
Baloyi and Ratha u are not serious how can we waste time on this witness? Hitmen
This is not a police wow unto u taxpayers.
I feel sorry for Advocate R....this is too much for him😢,his voice is shaking marn💔😥
Actually his a week defense lawyer
Proceed Mnisi Sana we know you want the statement to not be admissible in court because of a few mistakes
I hope SAPS national is taking note of the gaps highlighted regarding their processes/procedures in all Live court cases... Updates and improving
If accused no.5 was arrested for another case by Makhubo and dismissed accusations of him being the suspect on Senzo Meyiwa's murder ,Why he's one of the accused in this case??🤔
Wait and follow the case. He will be linked. He is the master mind's consultant...
@@bongsha2379 I doubt.. mastermind can use officials, people in power not another criminal whose already serving life...but that's your opinion I cannot dispute that..
Mnisi we mvula
The police must search his pocket before entering his house in Durban not to hide the statement uzobhala esinye tonight athi sesiya sidala....Baloyi uzobhala esinye statement yhooooo SSS
Zungu is now thinking nolonger remembers hai😢
😂
He remember date only 😂😂😂😂
We know the through doesn’t matter what the judge says bcos it’s obvious his here for a guilty verdict uyambona nje ukuthi liyamuhlukumeza iqiniso but easy to intertain lies . Pity SA???
You said the room was locked but you say they were coming in and out and You were thinking of your gun
Ngyakuthanda my judge, awusoze futhi waba yimpatha, ayikho impatha efundile.
Ngempela
Did the judge see Tumelo as well ???
He can't see the witness even Zandy what she said ku Mxumalo
Mxm the judge turn bland eyes 👀 to witnesses rudeness and insulting.
Why is judge so convinced that Zungus life is in danger. Why not close case once. Councillers in KZN had security withdrawn cause they was no proof they where in danger. Why fear for Zungu. And defence should have asked for proof
This Zungu guy was promised money and promotion by Gininda... His statement might sound well but it has a lot of hear says
Zungu is part of these accused🤞🏾why does the judge not want Zungu to be asked about the law of safe keeping of a firearm???🤭kukhonokshaya Manzi la🤞🏾
Zungu is the centre of everything here, marks my words. He is the one who played a role in organising the hit man. If you are familiar with Uzalo, think of Sgt Nyawo.
Because Zungu is not on duty. Such questions must be asked by his employers, not the court of law, he is not on trial for such, he is a witness on a murder case. His employers can pick this up and bring it up to him
He can't answer that without incriminating himself
He has immunity
I think this is what suspect #5 was saying when he got into trouble for threatening witness. The sign gusture looked like he was saying the witness was the one who pulled the trigger.
That bag with the f/arm....something fishy about it.
Umsabiselani ufakazi uma umsulwa ngoba kumele ulinde inkantolo ikuthole umsulwa Mr Nkabi
all along i thought these guys were framed but now its evident they are all guilty
They are framed brother wait and watch you will see
They are framed. No intruders came to the house of Khumaloz.
Why do you believe they did it, evidence doesn't seem to agree with the state
Yes they are all framed and he mention all of them he withdraw that he knows accused 1.2 and even saying but this not this 2..3..4..accused means those are onces he knows
This is a movie guy's and you cannot conclude based on the witness without the accused submitting their evidence. Indaba yecala can confuse people. Today it favors the accused then the next day if favors someone else
These guys are killing machines and they are smiling as if nothing has happened.😂😂😂
Bazogwetshwa abantu lana
I conquer with U brother
True.
This judge is kinda not fit for this case
He is too old for this case and very biased
I miss Teffo
What if Senzo’s wife hired these hitmen? The truth will prevail we are patient
I also believe that he hired the accused, and also make those that were in the house and Nthabi to lie bluntly, oh and also asked maphiri to clean the scene
And also asked mosiya to hide photo of Kelly’s phone from the submitted photos, lie about being at scene and his scene sequence.
Yaa....to kill the side chick I blv Senzo was killed accidentally.
It will be very nice later ko Mzansi Reality 😂
Kaze ngilibone ijaji elinje
Udoti lo
Bu I thought this guys said they did no know each other .
Exactly manje I doubt they are innocent
I remember that as well
These guys they are the one, we can just ask them if they have been sent by someone
Abazani number 2 kuthiwa wayesemakhaya kufa Meyiwa Zungu lo uzoboshelwa amanga
@@user-mk7yn1jf6gand Accuse number one said akaze aye emshadweni wa sisi wakhe esho i witness
This is comedy at large
Baloyi is loosing now is looking for anything now. Very childish
Yhoooooo that guy Boloyi and Judge, the stupidity witness Tumelo did it and nothing happened.
Mnisi is BOSS
JUDGE MUST TREAD CAREFULLY AND BALOYI HOW THEY DO AS THEY PLEASE AT COURT SCARES ME AND WHY IS HE NOT ENTERTAINING THE ISSUE OF WITNESSES BEING RUDE AND HIM JUST KEEPING QUITE NOT SAYING ANYTHING YOH PURE INTIMIDATION
The bedroom was locked and the witness was guarding the bedroom how did the guys enter
Gwabeni opened it
Looks like this case its police vs police.Gininda is fighting Makhubo
This witness will testify for the whole of next week.
Advocate Teffo must come back
Thanks
The judge nodded when the witness said "I didnt want to lie on them to say i saw them killing him" that nodding said something.....actions speak louder than words...19/3/2024
The Witness "if Accused # 3, 4 & 5 said they don't know at all, I will agree with them"
Mnisi wemvula shapa shapa!!!+
Akasabi yini?
Fisokuhle really look heartless
Let the truth comes
No justice lana😢😢
I'm with you on that
No justice people they kill other and go free
Noooo maan, this case is not make sure.
These accused persons are all guilty.
My Judge💪🏿
Very intelligent Judge Ratha Mogwathleng
Aiybo le judge
Once a witness mentions brigadier gininda in his statements,I just conclude that the witness statement is being cooked nothing lagit.