The level of arrogance in this case shows how compromised some of our judges are. Witnesses should be allowed to answer questions uninterrupted. Judges should be impartial. The manner in which counsel is addressed in this case creates a mockery of South Africa’s justice system.
The evidence of Constable Sizwe Zungu is highly relevant and will be corroborated by the accused themselves going foward...and the snippets of the evidence already confirm it, eg the evidence of Mr Buthelezi who told the court that No 2 Accused told him that he (No2) was together with Mapisa when they committed the offence....But m expecting to be criticized harshly for remembering this evidence...5/2/2024
This judge realy make the public to suspect that some SAP employees are involved in this case Please State legal team help this judge to stop this unlawful behaviour
Problem is that both teams are at a level of Criminal Law 101/moot court exercise on Friday evening.Why did such a complex case handled by University freshmen when seasoned Lawyers like Gary could have wrapped up the case many years ago.This case should be taken to Saudi Arabia for trial.This is not a trial but a moot court by University freshmen.
U Judge lana uvikela i witness uthi ayingaphenduli ngoba izozibophisa kungani,ingoba liyazi ukuthi kuqanjwa amanga vele manja u witness akangaze azigaxelise
A constable nogal can't ascertain who was seating at the back seat of the car where he was in also..jerrrr..some human beings don't love themselves..jerrrrrr o leshano
Yhooo there the gudge interfering again! I don't know how will this case end, sems as if the gudge is driving it somewhere.But we pray that God the almighty intervines, because He is the only one who knows the truth.God pls help us😢
Wrong ppl will go to jail for nothing while mastermind are out there I just feel bad for senzo meyiwas family they will never get justice, we want killer Kelly khumalo, for my opinion the was no introducers , in khumalo house,
The abuse of state resources by Zungu is not part of Senzo Meyiwa case, it has got nothing to do with the defense The defense team's job Adv Nxumalo is to prove Zungus (witnesses) evidence as false. Don't confuse the case , uyasiphoxa Mkhatshwa ufunde kangaka.
This type of cross-examination is aimed at proving to Court that the witness is not a credible witness. He is a dodgy character and his testimony should be considered with caution as his actions and conducts have proved to be uncharacteristic. That is the purpose of this type of cross-examination.
I hear right not to answer incriminating questions (privilege) but there's no bar on asking incriminating question. Only eventually judge gives advice he ought to have given without being emotional. Advocate hadn't forced the witness to answer the question😢
If Gwabini can testify in this case he can drown the accused persons coz according to the evidence adduced even though he was not in Vosloo (crime scene) it will seem he has a deep knowledge of the issues. This is my opinion guys subject to various different views...22/3/2024
This guy is mad, if this accuse they got arrested and must got arrested too, if this accuse got realise this guy must be arrested again, coz it show was part of this plan
Witnesses in this case they belittle the advocates.Zungu is the same as others. He is worse as he eligally used state resources and got paid for the month of October 2014.
I think to look for Zungu in all of them.If he was there in all 700 photos atleast 1 or 2 photos kumele abonakale....and clearly than the one they saying engabonakali kuso
The evidence of Constable Zungu is highly incriminating to the accused bur indirectly...other parts of evidence will fit nicely on it... remember guys there are other witnesses who will come and testify... surely they will place them at the hostel even though they deny .....5/2/2024... But guys u can criticise me as harsh as you can for this view..
This judge is a no no.. why wouldn't he wait for the witness to say I cannot answer just like Mshololo did say to Zandi that you can answer or not answer but the witness is up to him/het to choose not the judge to quickly cover up. it sadden me to sometimes believe in white judges
Wow wow this guy has already answered that exact question incriminating himself prior to postponement why did the judge not stop him. So how do u get the truth. Now the cop just says he does not want to answer cos the judge dont wanna hear the truth. No come on Judge use your discretion. You quoting apartheid cases.
Why do you involve yourself judge, the witness has already incriminated himself by saying he saw people exchanging fire arms, it is his testimony and must be asked about it, whether the counsel ask or not is irrelevant.
Please can this judge stop protecting the withnes He is fightung the State Prosecutor sins this case stated he is very unprofessional he really put the State Prosecutor down i don't now hoe can one work witj such a judge He's supposed to be in a elderly home.
Zungu is not just a lier, he is mentally disturbed.
The level of arrogance in this case shows how compromised some of our judges are. Witnesses should be allowed to answer questions uninterrupted. Judges should be impartial. The manner in which counsel is addressed in this case creates a mockery of South Africa’s justice system.
Because to save time.Then he can concentrate on this case.
True
Where was the justice when they killed Senzo
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THIS JUDGE PROTECTING WITNESS
Zungu isithutha sendoda esisangene👆🤞🤞🤞
😂😂
Uzophelelwa umsenenzi lona ngento engekho
Amanga neqiniso akuhlangani sdalo we!mfana ka-Zungu
Zungu isdomu sokuzalwa ingakho bekusebenzisa. Listening skill baba that is why Mshoo ekubuza 18:20 ngelevel of education..Kukhulu okwaziyo phoyisa
Got back from work now can see this judge is still misbehaving allowing the witness to disrespect the advoxats questioning !
The evidence of Constable Sizwe Zungu is highly relevant and will be corroborated by the accused themselves going foward...and the snippets of the evidence already confirm it, eg the evidence of Mr Buthelezi who told the court that No 2 Accused told him that he (No2) was together with Mapisa when they committed the offence....But m expecting to be criticized harshly for remembering this evidence...5/2/2024
Cst Zungu you're giving the council a tough time😊
I think "Counsel" but m not sure...22/3/2024
This judge realy make the public to suspect that some SAP employees are involved in this case Please State legal team help this judge to stop this unlawful behaviour
Agree with you on this, something is fishing here, I don't trust this judge anymore
Mekumele aphendule uphendula ngokukhulu ukudelela kanti kunjan emaphoyiseni akhuluma nomakanjan afundiswalokho yin ay bandla
Mr judge Ratha now can see that Zungu is laiying 🙄 , the only problem is that NPA captured this judge 🙄
Problem is that both teams are at a level of Criminal Law 101/moot court exercise on Friday evening.Why did such a complex case handled by University freshmen when seasoned Lawyers like Gary could have wrapped up the case many years ago.This case should be taken to Saudi Arabia for trial.This is not a trial but a moot court by University freshmen.
Good Mr Mnisi you do have your own records
The picture was taken at Katlehong, not Voslorus.
Aibo please akuboshwe lamaphoyisa nababesendlini awu safa umdlolo...Badedele lamadoda then adle lemali ye state 🙏
The name Cela impilo.. 😂 I died, Hai niyathiya naZulu
I can't see or think why this judge is against the state prosecutor he always put the prosecutor down Maybe he surprised to be in the elderly home
Mina sengifisa nokumbona uzungu
Uzungu yinkabi lena
Nawe majazi abomvu awazi lutho, kwamele wehle esikhundleni 😂😂😂😂Zungu inkabi uyaziwa uvika nge uniform state
Wathi uselelwe u2yrs ukuth aphume ufuna lelicala lisheshe ukuze aliqede. Kuloyo mzuzu uMawami akamufuni uthi ngathi isalukwazi😂😅😂😅😂Nemjiva ebomvu😂😅😂😅😂😅
Thank you
U Judge lana uvikela i witness uthi ayingaphenduli ngoba izozibophisa kungani,ingoba liyazi ukuthi kuqanjwa amanga vele manja u witness akangaze azigaxelise
Annisakwazi.kahle.ukumbala.isilungu.ngimdala
Yebo.ngilokungiyayiladela.lekesi.Kanzenzo.ngibongakakakhulu
Zungu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sengathi kungagcina sekulunga boo kunini silindele iqiniso
Ukuphaphatha is a Zulu symbol that symbolise the respect or be thankful
We need the ob number of that day Zungu
And AVL of the state vehicle misused by pseudo police Zungu
I thought people who were in the house can lie, until I heard Zungu yhooooooooo
Same!!! I thought they were liars tot now... The qn I have now is why they killed him
Leliphoyisa selimdayise kakhulu uGwabeni futhi ukuze engaboshwa komele aphike nje ukuthi wake wabiza umhlangano nezigebengu ngoba Kobe kuchaza ukuthi uyena u mastermind kulelicala
Uzungu uyagula ngempela uthi uye okulesthombe kodwa ukhanyile lo osesithombeni
Khanyile might rescue these accused.If that was Zungu they wouldn't have mention Khanyile at all coz obvious he will be called
Kanti futhi babekhona lapho o Accused lapho kwakushuthwa khona bazivumela ngokwabo?uyimpimpi Zungu awudlali kanjalo😂😂😂😂
Lalela kahle akukho lokho ukushoyo
WITNESS INCRIMINATED HIMSELF WHEN HE GAVVE EVIDENCE ABOUT DRUGS AND GUNS 😮
If the judge is forced misuse office and incriminating these accused to protect the state
A constable nogal can't ascertain who was seating at the back seat of the car where he was in also..jerrrr..some human beings don't love themselves..jerrrrrr o leshano
Wena unamanga ayikho lento, yonke nje imibuzo obuzwa yona uthi awazi, kanti yini oyaziyo wena mlisa?
Judge Mokgoatleng you know the law, that's why you're a judge. Big ups to you
JUDGE IS BIASED ! NOT OBJECTIVE TERRIBLE!
I'm embarrassed on Judge Ratha's behalf. His behavior is deplorable
This is so fabricated zungu is a lier
Yhooo there the gudge interfering again! I don't know how will this case end, sems as if the gudge is driving it somewhere.But we pray that God the almighty intervines, because He is the only one who knows the truth.God pls help us😢
Wrong ppl will go to jail for nothing while mastermind are out there I just feel bad for senzo meyiwas family they will never get justice, we want killer Kelly khumalo, for my opinion the was no introducers , in khumalo house,
Master minds might be out there but the arrested ppl pulled the trigger
Yiciniso.lelo.kuyaziwa.abobani.
His commender needs to be called to witness him.
So the judge agrees that the witness commited crime and he has and obligation to protect him.
Amanga constable!!!😮
Does Zungu even know he's incriminating himself? 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Too stupid to know that, he is so arrogant
The abuse of state resources by Zungu is not part of Senzo Meyiwa case, it has got nothing to do with the defense
The defense team's job Adv Nxumalo is to prove Zungus (witnesses) evidence as false.
Don't confuse the case , uyasiphoxa Mkhatshwa ufunde kangaka.
Could be he wanted to prove that maybe even himself is implicated someone Kuleli Cala...my thoughts
This type of cross-examination is aimed at proving to Court that the witness is not a credible witness. He is a dodgy character and his testimony should be considered with caution as his actions and conducts have proved to be uncharacteristic. That is the purpose of this type of cross-examination.
OMG this judge is still herr🤦♀️🤦♀️
I thought they're gonna change him 😢😢😢
The accused are coming nearer and nearer the murder scene.
I've long wished to hear the alibi of these thugs.
I agree it is so obvious
@@MaryMcGluwa-hd7zl😊
Ratha😢😢😢
Ingane yodwa engaboni, they are almost there unless of course they present a sound alibi.
And what l remember is that, it was mentioned that the Khumalo's house is not far from that hostel.
I hear right not to answer incriminating questions (privilege) but there's no bar on asking incriminating question. Only eventually judge gives advice he ought to have given without being emotional. Advocate hadn't forced the witness to answer the question😢
Hayi bo Nxumalo uAccused 4 wayengekho wena futhi wayekhona.Kanti ikona okuyikuphi
🤔🤔🤔🤔
Kodwa u Zungu bakithi, ngeskhathi ethula ubufakazi wayeqinisekile ngabo bonke ubufakazi bakhe kodwa ngoku useyangabaza
😂😂😂😂😂 akazazi kwayena esithombeni 😂😂
@@phumzagalada6263 umhlola😂😂😂
Heeei iyamangaza into ka Zungu
If Gwabini can testify in this case he can drown the accused persons coz according to the evidence adduced even though he was not in Vosloo (crime scene) it will seem he has a deep knowledge of the issues. This is my opinion guys subject to various different views...22/3/2024
Hiw many peole were introduced to you
Is it necessary to ask about the provisios of state vehicle? How does that help the accused?
The records or logbook will tell if he lied or not..also AVL
Credibility will be tested on it
This guy is mad, if this accuse they got arrested and must got arrested too, if this accuse got realise this guy must be arrested again, coz it show was part of this plan
Witnesses in this case they belittle the advocates.Zungu is the same as others. He is worse as he eligally used state resources and got paid for the month of October 2014.
Look at the judge's eyes when looking at Ad. Nxumalo
Why was the photo taken?
I give up 😢
So Kelly could say anything avoid telling the truth
Judge has high blood pressure by now
1,2 and 3. Then 5 and 4
😂here wena judge ungasinyeli laa
😂
They demanded photos....to prove what exactly?
I think to look for Zungu in all of them.If he was there in all 700 photos atleast 1 or 2 photos kumele abonakale....and clearly than the one they saying engabonakali kuso
Ay maan lo judge... 🤨
Thought the judge would come back a changed man
The people that were in the House should all be arrested an charged with PERJURY.
where is the prosecutor kante to object if the judge is the 1 objecting
Mokhoatleng what are you listening if you ask about what was the ad.question wait uena you must listen
The questioning by Adv Nxumalo places his client in the hostel if one views it in total. 5/2/2024
Yooo this denied and denied and denied until am not sure
This trial will never be solved
It seems it is going that way but the devil cant be allowed to win. Sithi think #justice4senzomeyiwa
Why zungu answer this cars questions?Nathi siyalandwa mos with States private cars😂😂😂😂😂 WOW
Who is this lawyer?😢yaaa you realy lost this case.just give u,and re-sign.😂😂😂
But in this case ubeya ezigebengwini
Zunguuu still have a Job at the SAPS?
Zungu ,his colleagues that have come forth to testify and the people that were in the house that day, must be charged with perjury?.
The evidence of Constable Zungu is highly incriminating to the accused bur indirectly...other parts of evidence will fit nicely on it... remember guys there are other witnesses who will come and testify... surely they will place them at the hostel even though they deny .....5/2/2024... But guys u can criticise me as harsh as you can for this view..
Hay this cop guy is denying denying denying everything, he knows nothing doesn't remember anything.This is annoying really!
This judge is a no no.. why wouldn't he wait for the witness to say I cannot answer just like Mshololo did say to Zandi that you can answer or not answer but the witness is up to him/het to choose not the judge to quickly cover up. it sadden me to sometimes believe in white judges
They pay this advocate for nothing .They must learn him the whole time the law.Pls he (confrim in this court)😂 is the only thing that he can say
Yhoyhoyho I rest my case!!
This.man.zungo.is.alier.liet😅😅😅😅😅
Wow wow this guy has already answered that exact question incriminating himself prior to postponement why did the judge not stop him. So how do u get the truth. Now the cop just says he does not want to answer cos the judge dont wanna hear the truth. No come on Judge use your discretion. You quoting apartheid cases.
This Zungu guy is so arrogant ayi kanti kuyadlalwa yini
Why do you involve yourself judge, the witness has already incriminated himself by saying he saw people exchanging fire arms, it is his testimony and must be asked about it, whether the counsel ask or not is irrelevant.
Law ka1961 when is this thing amended na
The witness is dishonest!
This zungu his really lost most of questions he is unable to answer it clearly
This judge no no
He started again this judge
Please can this judge stop protecting the withnes He is fightung the State Prosecutor sins this case stated he is very unprofessional he really put the State Prosecutor down i don't now hoe can one work witj such a judge He's supposed to be in a elderly home.
Ramaphosa mist just remove this retired judge kweeewu
Yeyiii into bengizosuwa i state yona ukuhlala ejele ngenxa yamanga wamaphoyisa beyingeke isuke phansi
The judge is biase and Zungu is a liar without any reasonable doubt
Judge is tomuch
Why I polisa li involved ne criminals
55:26 55:26
This judge he can't even hide himself that he is really protecting the witness lol something fishy
Uzungu uya beda
Why uthi uyabheda?
@@NicholasThabede yingoba akakhulumisi okomuntu womthetho noqnda kabanzi ukuthi ukufunga kusho ukuthini.
Wena uzwa kunomqondo ophusile ukuthi umuntu oyiphoyisa angabiki ngobugebengu bgisho sekuphenywa kumoswa izinsiza zikahulumeni. Uma uhambisana nalokhu kosho ukuthi wazi esingakwazi namanga ayakujabulisa kanti futhi ayinxenye yempilo yakho. Asibaphikeli lababafo. ukuthi ezikhathini eziningi bayazithola bephambana nomthetho kodwa kulokhu no bayasukelwa.
So clearly he did not work that day he just went to the event
😂haaa defense,not you want SAPS cars,not a killer,ohhhh thixo😢😢hayke
Hayi boo ixesha lokungena nnelokuphuma emapoliseni ayingo 6 to 6