My Subaru Died on Christmas!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ธ.ค. 2017
- First time my 2015 Subaru Forester has left me stranded! Common problem with less than common symptoms.
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You are soo correct when you say the technicians at a dealership treat your car like another one on the list! this is why I always work on my own cars. Keep up the great work Sarah!
Samuel Tejada lol but but that’s exactly what it is.. “Another car on their work list” they probably get cars more expensive and from more important people everyday.. 😅😅 it doesn’t mean they don’t do their job is just that is their job work the list.
Yep, had the valve spring recall done on my BRZ, which took more than two weeks, and a couple days later it's throwing cam timing codes. Some forum research says that if they put the sprockets back on with an impact wrench they mess them up. Took it back and they grumbled and made a big deal out of fixing it no charge but a month later I got it back with new sprockets on it. When they have to fix something on their own dime, they shove it in a corner until they get "some free time". After three weeks I leaned on them for a loaner and a week and a half or so later I got it back. Been okay so far. Fingers crossed.
This is awesome! I mean not the part where your car died but the fact you figured it out and shared it with us! Merry Christmas.
Dang I was literally on the edge of my seat when you tried turning on the car after you installed the new starter. I'm so happy you got it working again! Good job 😀
Cam/crank code is directly related to the starter because when you go to start it, the ECU is thinking that the engine is trying to spin when it triggers the starter but nothing is spinning nor is any sensors putting off any readings.
Matthew Poole thats right on the money and until the ECU sees an rpm it wont clear codes!
EXCELLENT
dumb ass suburu technicians didn't even know that!that's why if you want to own a car, you better buy a workshop manual and learn to fix it yourself.
Chip Tessen I could see if it was a smart key car a brake light switch would cause it not to turn over due to not getting a brake signal. But dead cell, not likely but you never know. I'm a Toyota tech and not really fond of new Subaru. See a lot of spun bearings on the frs which is just a brz
As a Honda tech I've never seen cam/crank codes throw up for starter motors. But this is a good learning experience
Hey Sarah, glad you got it sorted out so quickly! Unfortunately, new doesn't necessarily mean long lasting! Vlogs are fine! I love the suspense, troubleshooting, solutions and clever humour, even it's accidental! You're honesty is awesome! Wish I had a mechanic like you to work on my cars!
Might look for more of these; really good piece. Really appreciate your honesty, really loving the skill set!
Such a great video and very informative. Keep up the great work Sarah!!!
FWIW, Sarah, I enjoy these vlog-style videos; esp this one because it had mystery, troubleshooting and a happy ending!
That is really weird it was the starter, ive never seen that happen but then again i havent dealt with alot of subarus. Glad you got your baby fixed and home. Merry late christmas to you guys! Looking forward to the next video!
Just had to put a starter on my WRX.
I applaud you for your honesty! Love it!!
Glad you got it running! Its a sick Forester
Happy that you fixed it Sarah great video :)!
Great video! IMO best videos follow this kind of ?semi-vloggie? format informative while also keeping it real, jussayin. Hope y'all (Sarah, Sarah -n- Charlie) and all your family & friends have a amazingly Happy New Year's!
Oh man. I'm so glad you got it working again. Also, your sister is the cutest and happiest person ever. ;)
That's so cool, most people would have it towed to a dealership to have it fixed. Not only did you figure out the problem, but you fixed it too. NICE WORK SARAH!!
Good job analyzing the problem. I was very impressed. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I am impressed that you have been trained to work on automobiles. Keep up the informative videos.
Hey Sarah enjoy your videos,good to see the Forester up and running.
very rare to meet honest people like that,, good for you stick to honesty it will get you far
Ohh no! Glad you fixed it! My battery died on Christmas haha before driving to family!!! Thankfully I had this NOCO Booster thing and it jumped it perfectly. Merry Christmas Sarah~!!
Merry Christmas, glad you got it sorted out! Great videos!!!
Cat spotted! Glad you're car is sorted, happy holidays and new year. Best of luck in years to come.
Congratulations on being honest. Not many are. Glad you got it figured out.
I love the odd vlog randomly thrown in Sarah as life happens
Good job finding that fault 😍🏴🥂
It's throwing up the codes because the engine ECU is seeing a start signal from the ignition switch and assumes the engine is rotating, but because in this case the engine is not rotating due to the faulty starter there is no RPM signal from the crank sensor so it assumes the crank/ cam sensors are faulty
Ecu need sensors for that, crank sensor is one of them. The starter has no sensor.
I enjoy your vlog videos. Glad you got your Forester running again. Had the starter on my car go out last month. Turned out it was a defective starter so my mechanic replace it for free since it had been replaced earlier this year.
THAT was an interesting problem. Fun to have a challenge of figuring something out when nothing makes any sense. Good on you for finding and fixing the problem. Love from Michigan.
I appreciate anybody who knows what they're talking about. Two thumbs up for smart people! 👍🏽👍🏽
Glad your Subie is up and running! If I have any problems with my 2015 WRX, I'm calling you! Great Video!! ;)
Love watching your videos. As a born and raised Tucsonian I appreciate all the background shots you shoot in instead of just standing in your garage.
As for the starter, did you try re-plugging it back in? In computers re-seating sometimes works and I'm curious if it's the same for cars. Either way, great video and I'm excited to get an update on Mr. Dos and the Audi.
Glad to see you could fix your subi, its such a great car!
First of all I love watching your videos which has a laid back feel to them. I also like how you react to the problems, similar to how I would.
Just wow on how can a starter go so quickly? Does it have a start stop feature?
You are so brave working without putting your hair up. I have forgotten on occasion to put my hair up and gotten a very nice oil dip. Thank you Dawn soap.
Enjoying your channel and your roomy is pretty cute, keep the great content coming!
Charlie’s truck has the solution to every problem. Every tool known to man is in there. Mechanic goals!
Did you ever notice when that energetic lovable Sarah is there and smiles, her mouth is the form of a heart? Lover her too.
Love your integrity. Keep,up the good work.
Hello Sarah , I've watched your video and as for the codes being set for the cam sensor it might due to your aftermarket tune you put on the car , it's just a thought. I work at a Volvo dealership and have been a Master tech for 20 years there. And when people reflash the Volvo ECM it can set weird codes , at times. It's good that you found the problem and it was a easy fix. KEEP up the videos and the good work. I enjoy watching your channel.
It could be that when you tried to start the car the ECM thinks that the crank and cams should be rotating. So no crank rotation, no cam rotation, set code.
The ground wire on the starter loosens up its a pretty common issue on new Subarus its not the starter its just the single ground wire that clips in to the starter
And fyi when clearing codes on Subaru ignition needs to be turned off for 10 seconds after the codes are cleared
Merry Christmas, glad you got it sorted out! You and your roommate are too cute together. Good luck with all the projects and thanks for the videos.
In a Subaru if the engine doesn't crank you will always get cam/crank sensor codes. The computer doesn't know that the engine is not turning over. It assumes it is not getting signal from crank/cam sensors...also amy time you have a check engine light traction control and vdc will be disabled by default..thus is because the car uses so many sensors to do these functions...happy holidays
Glad you found the issue, love the video!
That mechanics truck though!! Goals!
I know, right. It's beastly. No "half-ass" there.
I know talk about sexy. It could pull a hell of a car hauler too I betcha.
After his weak diagnostic I wonder if he is related to snap-on junkie.
Loving That Edge Scanner😍😍😍
Nice to see that honest people still exist👍👍
Always start with the basics....
And that was cool to shut out Flying Sparks. I love that channel..
Not a import guy but, i like your channel as well. Especially when you talk dirty lol..
My WRX had the same brake sensor issue, had to replace it twice before it stopped throwing codes.
You are a smart lady, Sarah. Hope to see your next video.
im sooo sorry for your loss
My forester xt went in limp mode for a dead o2 sensor yesterday. Subaru warrantied for the repair. Best xmas gift ever.
Wow mad love for you working on ur own ride.
08/08/2021 2PM: You just finished your most recent live stream. This was the video that nailed my loyalty. You discussed your feelings of honesty and integrity. There are individuals that dispute those feelings on the most petty and personal levels. They are... well... we know what they are. I am glad to see that you responded to someone in this comment section 1 year ago on a video that you posted almost 5 years ago. Who does that? Says so much. I'm going to edit this later but have to go for now.
vlogging style is fine. outtakes and bloopers are always. other than that, keep up the great work! 👍
brains, beauty, car nut, wicked sense of humour. Long legs What more could a fella ask for. Sarah I hope your fella realises what an absolute one off star he has in you. May I wish you both all the best for the coming new year. Daz
I agree no one will treat your car like you. I used to do a lot of my own work I still do as much as I can but due to a car accident where I was hit head-on about 15 years ago I lost sight in my left eye so it makes it hard for me to see anything anymore when I'm under the car good job getting it fixed
When Keith (New level Auto) gets here he might have an idea of why those codes were set, but I'm with you, it makes no sense for a starter to go bad at that low mileage and also to have those (apparently) unrelated codes. Oh yeah, "Flying Sparks Garage" is a great channel too. Nice job on the fix and on the video as well. Your editing makes for good viewing.
The lights that came up on your dash come up anytime the check engine light is illuminated as well-I have a 14 STI hatchback-yes it’s a unicorn(no one has them and everyone wants one)This only indicates the battery voltage was low.
I wish I found this video a year ago! My 15 FXT had the same issue, same codes. Unfortunately after months at the dealership + lots of money spent on camshaft sensor replacements they still couldn’t fix it.
I washed the engine bay and it hasn’t happen since. Now I know to keep a spare starter motor in the garage for when it inevitably comes back!
Also since you were seeing a crank postion sensor code it may be possible that the car was initiating to much ignition timing into the cranking cycle which can lead to premature starter wear. Just trying to lend a hand!
Merry Christmas Sarah! Maybe the starter had a hangover too :D
knew you'd get it. sweet. my last truck went through three starters before i realized the contact on the power wire needed to be cleaned 😒
maybe something related to those other codes threw your old starter. anyway, enjoy your victory ✊
when I removed the switches for the power windows I too was disappointed to see it had Nissan electronic parts (09 non turbo). I do believe that when i installed an after market radio, they provided me with a Nissan wiring harness kit. Gag! glad to see you was able to diagnose the issue and get it resolved. I would've freaked and been highly pissed.
just became a subaru owner today! 2009 Forrester...i enjoyed your video.
By far the cutest car girl ever 😍😍🤗
I’ve never had good luck with reman starters, regardless of where I got them. It’ll be interesting to see if you have better luck. Thanks for the heads up on the brake light switch. Thanks for the vid.
And you’re honest...so sweet...!
Good info of the subie, nice to know a thing or two
This was an unexpected problem for such low miles and unsafe on the starter. But I have seen this many times on electric mirrors, like starters or window motors. I use a ball pen on the starter and a rubber mallet on the door panels for window motors sticking. Did have nice to take the end cap off the starter to see if the brushes were worn out that early, so expect again when you get that many miles on New starter or if there had been arching on the armature.. but regardless you fixed. Something on a diagnosis you will not forget. Keep posting it's fun
Your videos are so well done and informative and interesting! What a lady I just watched you with this no start issue and the way you explained no disrespect to the Subaru techs simply that you trust what you do and I get that! Exactly I know what I did or not, I like to do as much as I can on my several vehicles then I know at 80 miles an hour on highway that I actually did torque my lug nuts or greased my slide pins on those calipers or put locktite on those caliper bolts I fell safer that I did it and someone else was in a hurry and forgot!
I have replaced my starter twice now (98 Jetta TDI), the last starter was a Bosch and it only lasted maybe 10-15k miles. Not as easy to replace as on Subarus. I miss my 97 Outback these days, I just couldn’t hack 20mpg as my price for awd in a daily driver. Not sure it’s been a good switch; 25k miles (185-210k) and I’ve replaced the whole cooling system, re-gasketed the fuel pump, replaced injectors, brakes. FYI in case some folks don’t know; VW’s are WAY MORE COMPLEX THAN NECESSARY! I miss my Subaru bad sometimes. The thing was bombproof except the head gaskets at 100k but that’s global for dohc ej25s.
Cheers! Keep up the good work in 2018!
On a older cars if they won't start, you can press a horn and if control lights dims, that is a indicator for a weak battery, but not in a modern cars. On a cars with a lot's of electronic devices (almost any modern car) installed is security function that don't allow start the engine if a battery is bellow a proper voltage, usually about 11,6V. So the windows and horn work, but you can not start engine.
Just seeing this video now, good job. I right away said in the beginning when you got no crank at all, starter issue. sometimes you got to go old school before you pull out scanners. Actually in the order of battery then starter then security system...
I hear you about the dealership and the technicians, I actually used to work for a GM dealership back in the 90's, I've always worked on my own cars.. love all your videos even though I don't have any cars related to what you have. My hotrod is a 78 Camaro. You make me laugh.
Wasn't too crappy of a day, your car is fixed now!
The problem is that you are missing the third pedal.
Tracey Allen if only it were an option
Sarah -n- Tuned all things can be overcome.
How hard is a 6 speed swap?
Exactly
Glad you got that sorted out, I guessed crank position sensor in my Instagram to you this morning, but I stand corrected. In my own defense, I didn't know all the symptoms up front but it was fun making a guess to see if I happened to get it right without actually diagnosing it. While I was working on customer cars today, I kept thinking of your car, and wanting to get to TH-cam to see your follow up vid and find out what it was. Good job.😎
wow what weird symptoms for a bad starter, excellent video, keep it in mind if my Forester does the same.
I can listen to her talk for ever ..
My 07 wrx did the exact same thing! Threw 2 camshaft position sensor codes and 1 crankshaft position sensor code. Ended up being my starter aswell. Must just be a subaru thing to throw those hard codes whenever it doesn't crank at all
Right Meeeeow..... You are such a super trooper.
I'm surprised that the starter failed too. I would have suspected the brake light switch too since that is exactly what failed with the same symptoms on my partner's 2016 Forrester at 28,000 miles.
Hey Sarah! I had the exact same issue, starter was bad and I had Camshaft and Crankshaft sensor Codes... Crazy thing is, this was on my 2013 Chevy Sonic but the exact same issue!!! My Car is a manual so I push/pop started it and went strait to the dealer. Dealer b/c Warranty and the dealer said that the outer body housing of the starter was spinning off the case and starter was coming apart. Car had about 80K and was about 3.5 years old. Crazy. if you had done a video before this ask what could this be I would have replied - "This sounds nuts but check the Starter" lol. Glad to see its back to normal and go for you on working on your own cars, I teach my kids the same thing. If this car wasn't under Warranty I would have swapped it myself.
i'd clean the engine harness to chassis harness plug, and use some dielectric grease on the pins to seal it up. also loosen and clean those engine harness grounds.
If it's electrical or mechanical it will quite happily go wrong and usually when you are least in a position to do anything about it. Your honesty doe s you credit and you deserve better from a daily drive. Those Scoobie boxer engines always sound like an aero engine.
Just found your channel - subscribed. Greetings from the Nürburgring area, Germany
Couple weeks ago my starter would only make clicking noises . Pulled it apart cleaned and greased it . Now Its a as good as ever. 2002 jdm legacy gtb .2.0 twin turbo
It might seem crazy that it's a starter, but it's not totally impossible I think. For example if the starter somehow draws power due to a short circuit the voltage level to the the camshaft and crankshaft sensor circuits will fall below spec, which will thus trigger a fault code (or a series thereof) because the readings from the circuit aren't measuring correctly. Same goes for any other electronics that might be sensitive to power fluctuations.
You could have gotten the same issue if you'd put in a crazy sound system without changing the alternator and so on, if you'd crank it and the power drain was too heavy the car would end up spewing fault codes and possibly kill the engine as a result. Or at least go into a safety loop.
Electrical problems... oh joy! Glad you fixed it though, and I am like you... rather fix things myself because I care. Even though I am not a trained car mechanic, but most of the things people make are logical in nature. So a bit of common sense and logical thinking can get you a long way.
I like the vlogy kind of videos.
Just saw this video. Kind of late but starter failure are a very common problem for scobbys. I've been rebuilding them at the dealer since the 90's. The brass contacts inside get burned. You can get new contacts from the dealer or sand them clean and flat. Hope this helps...
Similar thing happened to me on my 2004 wrx last year!!! Car kept dying on start up and eventually didnt start. Threw crank shaft positioning sensor code and I replaced that in like 10° weather outside on lunch break. My dad suggested to replace the starter and we did it and it started right up!...youre lucky to be in AZ and not in MN when this happened.
I am absolutely in love with this gal. (relax...she's just super frickin awesome)
My car was doing the same thing, I went through everything, and it was the e.c.u relay. I feel your pain.
From Chile i have fxt 2015 too i i love the changes u made. I wouls change the acces cobb, the vertical "day light" awesome. Been mechanics or knowing about it it a consiserable safe on money doin it urself. Bravo
While reviewing ur video on the new forester 2.5 i came to this video cause my xt also die a week ago with 60.000 km round ur 37000miles...lol
I got the windows down (too much heat summer xhile) with the panel board light on but didn't start the engine of the car. 20min later i started it and while in reverse taking it out of the porch the same happen to me, the panel started info chexk out abs, traxtion control, etc. What the hell happens.... got side street turn off to see what happens and pff if went dead... Nothing not even a light on panel....
Got someone to help me bc maybe was batery, but nothing cables on there was no light whatsoever on the panel.
I Change baterry and nothing, and after that bc it thinks do anything while i was testing the fuse i moved The main one fuse ( 120) ,move it and sparkle light... Shit.. Got someone to move it again and that sparkle i coul see in the oanel it appears the doors signal... i could start turn on the car. So took it to subaru and they xhange the main fuse on the car whick is near the battery. Plop. Saludos!
I was gonna say if you couldn't figure it out to jump the exciter wire to the starter with the key on. Glad you figured it out. It was probably the solenoid contacts inside the starter got corroded or dirty. But they don't make the new cars as well as they used to. So it's expected, especially when you see things like new dodges loosing head gaskets at 30,000 miles.
Glad to hear the problem is sorted, would never have suspected the starter to be faulty tho
I had my starter go out last week too on my Cummins . I had hard starts for like 3 months until it finally went out.
Sarah, I sort of surprised that the starter crapped out, but I'm more surprised that the ECU didn't detect the right issue. Sounds like crappy SW diagnostic design and programming in need of an update. Thanks for posting this.
It happens Sarah, defecrive part. We take quite a few starters and alternators back from garages. Some, like yours, installed only a couple of months ago.
Good to see another woman in the field! Great vids!
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