Admiral Thrawn is the kind of guy who'd walk into the room, trip over his own feet, stumble down the stairs, poop his pants in the process, stand up with as his pants fall down around his ankles and then say: Ahhh... all part of my plan. Then take a step forward, slip on his own poop and face plant onto the floor.
The real Thrawn would do all of that and the heroes suddenly find themselves captured with their fleet destroyed because they got caught up in the distraction. This blue guy in this show is NOT Thrawn.
There seems to be a sort of underlying narcissism in Dave Filoni’s work. Everything he makes must be central to the core narrative of Star Wars. His work has a parasitic relationship to the main saga; he never makes anything truly original, only ever working in the shadow of another movie or novel made by far more talented writers (Heir to the Empire, OT, PT, etc.); but always, he tries to recontextualize those stories to place his characters at the narrative forefront. All of his OCs are kept alive inexplicably throughout the whole arc of the Skywalker story; often times long after their arcs have reached a natural and satisfactory ending point. Stylistically he relies far too heavily upon callbacks and cameos to keep his stories engaging. He constantly talks about George’s mentorship over him to give people the impression that he is a sort of inheritor to the Star Wars legacy, which legitimizes his fan-fiction. When he wants to be taken more seriously, he parrots the aesthetics of greater respected works like Blade Runner or Akira Kurosawa’s filmography, but always misses what made those films truly special. This became clearer than ever to me with Tales of the Jedi, a darker, self-serious series which attempted to paint itself as mature political and moral commentary (According to Filoni, long, drawn out scenes with no dialogue means his work is deep. He continues this gimmick in Ahsoka). However Ahsoka was released in the shadow of Andor, and when you directly compare how these two works approach the same themes, the surface-level nature of his writing becomes incredibly apparent. Let us also not forget how completely hypocritical Filoni is when it comes to the treatment of writers' original characters. He's against anyone else writing for his own OC's (Ahsoka novel) and demonstrates this in his Tales of the Jedi retcons, yet he'll gladly take another writer's OC (Thrawn) and butcher their character beyond recognition. Filoni has a knack for taking once beloved characters and making them into shells of their former selves to bolster his preferred characters (what he did to Barriss to make Ahsoka look better is a prime example of this). But that's what you have to do when you don't have talent.
I agree with everything you said and the Filoni Fanboys call the original works that respected what came before and adding to it as "fanfiction that works as inspiration" Calling ahsoka his pet isn't far off either he can't seem to let her go.
That wasn't the worse part, the worse was when they actually meet. You would think that, like you said, after risking the entire galaxy to see him, she could of at least ran to him and embraced/hugged - something showing the clearly emotional choice she made.
Sabine is really just terrible in this show. She’s almost twice as old as she was in rebels yet seems to have regressed to being a selfish child. Considering this episode was significantly better than the dumpster fire that is episode 7, I’m curious to see your next video
Let me guess; Thrawn is an idiot, like he was in Rebels? Because man, I feel bad for Disney Star Wars fans who think this depiction of Thrawn is good. Go read Heir to the Empire(or listen to the audiobooks) or the duology if you want Thrawn at his best.
the Disney novels also do a good job in expanding his intellect and growth within the ranks of the Empire sucks that these days, in order to get good villains who are actually smart, we have to go look for them in novels or anime instead of western television
I’m glad more people are Finallyy coming around to realizing Filoni is not the “GOAT” of Star Wars that too many fans claims he is. He’s done a lot of good for Star Wars but he’s also the reason why Star Wars isn’t being new and progressing like it should.
The reason was the cutting of the EU. They should have kept the reimanginings and their new ideas separately from the already well written New Empire stories. Also the problem of the new movies and the producer direction make this situation unsalvegable. Star Wars will remain doomed until they rectify everything they've done since Lucas departed.
Gideon's introduction in Mando season 1 was waaaaaay more intimidating than This Thrawn. "If you lose 9/10 battles. Shift everyone's attention to the one battle you did win" If lightning strikes. Say "ahhh right on schedual" If you know nothing about a subject. Ask the teacher to elaborat. Respond with "hmm my suspicions were correct" When the clock is about to turn 12:00pm. 10 seconds before the chime. Tell everyone the clock is about to chime. - The Art of War. Thrawn edition
They could have made Thrawn into the character he was in the Trilogy and consulted military and intelligence operatives about methods used by real-life militaries and intelligence agencies.
They should have kept Thrawn as a behind the scenes character but also given him significant progress since we last saw him. Show how great of a villain he is through his actions and accomplishments. Instead of a Thrawn who sat on his hands for 10+ years, show Thrawn’s forces having taken control of a few star systems in the new galaxy and building up his fleet. Constructed a cloning facility to be able to supplement his forces. Working on building an engine to get back to his galaxy. That way the heroes could have been facing Imperial forces, maybe a higher ranking lieutenant or commander and keeping Thrawn as a mysterious shadowy figure at the top that we almost never see until he springs his trap and escapes back to his galaxy.
Better yet, they could have consulted Timothy Zahn on how his mind works since they clearly didn't read the books past" he's blue" and "a military genius."
What a coincidence that Thrawn's super-secret, intergalactic location that Morgan has been desperately seeking the map to, just happens to be the planet she grew up on. Incredible. As in literally, not credible.
Well, no. Morgan is from Darthomir but Peridea is a planet of nightsisters for some reason. Imagine if instead of nightsisters, there would be some different cult from which nightsisters came from
Season two will start with Sabine, who's been in a coma ever since that time Shin killed her, waking from her bacta tank after a year or two and telling Ahsoka that she just had the wildest dream. None of that silliness with the Night Queen will have actually happened, and when we finally do see Thrawn he'll be as terrifying and brilliant as he is in those old books.
My favorite example is when he fired on his own Tie Defender just because he got upset with the pilot, and played right into Hera's plan and she defeated his Defender and broke his blockade. But if didn't fire on his own fighter, Hera's plan wouldn't have worked...
So many times Thrawn was told to his face that the human officer's didn't like him, and everytime one of his plans failed, it was because an officer didn't like him... you'd think he would have a back up plan for when one of his guys stop liking him... instead of it always be a huge and unexpected surprise... haha
The first thing Thrawn would do is kill Sabine. Then Ezra does not get found and Ahsoka has nowhere to go. They leave Ezra and Ahsoka in the other galaxy and go and have fun in the correct galaxy.
In the books Thrawn didn't kill for killing's sake. The koopas would be safe, they presented zero threat to Thrawn and his forces. He also did not throw away his troops for stupid reasons in the books. He used his forces wisely. In the books, Thrawn despised ineptness and rewarded competency. I recall Thrawn having an incompetent crewman killed immediately while later on, another crewman that failed in capturing the Rebels but did everything right was rewarded, commended on the spot in front of everyone. What we see of Thrawn now is nothing at all like this.
Well Ezra did say “I knew I could count on you.” Implying he was hoping she would come for him…. Also I’ll agree wjth you on Disney Star Wars being a problem, except for two spots, andor and Ahsoka. And if you wanna fight me about Ahsoka then go ahead. No one seems to understand what is going on in the show and then always calls it bad.
@@LegoJango586 Everything is explained in Ahsoka, I'm being talked down to by adult actors forced to imitate a lifeless version of their cartoon counterpart. That is why I say it's bad because the explanations don't help anything and neither does the delivery.
In the beginning of this episode the in a galaxy Far Far away line. While the line is bad, it could work because they are leaving thier Galaxy and likely have left by that point in whale's mouth.
The scene with Baylon talking to shin on the new planet was actually one of my favorite parts of the show, even though the dialogue from Shin can be clunky, Ray stevenson is just such a good actor, especially when he’s talking about his greater purpose and ending the cycle, it’s too bad the finale didn’t build on any of that…
DIsney and Star Wars have spawned a whole new industry where it's more fun watching people make fun of DIsney and Star Wars rather than watching the actual movies/tv themselves.
I posted comments on SW Megs vote post. This Filoni fan boy goes back and forth with me about how bad my objections are. For instance, in the first episode when Baylan was blocking blaster fire, he looked like a robot. I pointed out that the Rogue One Vader scene was much better. I also said the Mando and Andor series were leaps and bounds better. After several back and forths, the guy says basically the same team as Mando is doing Ahsoka. Different actors, directors and story writers. Filoni was credited with three Mando Episodes! The guy says the BTS is the same. So I replied I give you that the scene and costumes are good. No good story! No good directing! But the scene building and costumes are good? I would rather have Tom Baker Era Dr. Who. That was good story with terrible costumes and scenes.
Episode 7 was the epitome of filler. Just a massive nothing burger. The writers aka Dave Filoni were just treading water to fill out an episode until we get to the finale.
"It reeks of the Jedi" So we find out later these 3 witches are actually NATIVE to the planet they are on. Thrawn found them and woke them up. Yet they know about Jedi? This means Jedi went to this galaxy, to this specific planet no less, and spoiler alert they did some really important shit on this planet that Baylen wants so badly he's willing to sacrifice the entire main galaxy by returning Thrawn to it. So the Jedi went here, and they built something important..... Then they just STOPPED. They didn't venture out and populate AN ENTIRE GALAXY, they just popped by this singular planet, did something really important that won't effect the future of Star Wars because remember this all leads to the sequel trilogy, and then went back and deleted the directions to this planet, though they left in the archives it's POSSIBLE to get here, but nobody ever tried doing that. Hyperspace lanes aren't just magical relics of a bygone age that modern people need to find to unlock the ability to travel to a new solar system in the galaxy. They PLOT these routes themselves! It takes some time and it's a bit dangerous, but ALL the hyperlanes in the main galaxy were found this way. The hyperspace lane to another galaxy, WOULD BE POINTING THE SHIP IN THAT DIRECTION AND GOING TO THE GALAXY! Cause a hyperlane isn't an actual thing that exists, it's a route through a GALAXY that is safe to travel at hyperspeed. As Han explains in episode 4, if you just jump without looking where you're going you might come out in the middle of a star, FUCK OFF LAST JEDI. Hyperlanes are just sections of space that are EMPTY and therefore safe to drop in and out of hyperspace in. Makes considerably less sense how hyperspace whales exist, Mass Effect did it WAY better, but that's beside the point. The point is, if you have the desire to get to another galaxy, you can do that. Just find the galaxy, and go towards it. Might take a bit of time, but you can just build a bigger ship to sustain a crew for the journey, with plenty of supplies to get more food and stuff once you're there. Once you're IN the galaxy you need to scout hyperspace lanes, which is dangerous and time consuming but at the end of it you'll be able to dart around the second galaxy as easily as the first. So, the Jedi found this galaxy, GOT to this galaxy, and just decided to LEAVE and nobody else in the ENTIRE GALAXY thought it would be a good idea to colonize this galaxy!? BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSHIT! Not even the SITH!?
@@Сайтамен Except they DON'T know Ezra. Ezra is not their poker buddy. Ezra, since arriving on this planet, has been on the run from Thrawn who understandably WANTS TO KILL HIM. Ezra certainly would not have hung around Thrawn long enough for him to scout the planet, locate the sisters, figure out how to wake them, actually wake them, and then explain what the Jedi are ENOUGH THAT THE NIGHT SISTERS HATE THEM INHERENTLY! No, that doesn't work. They especially couldn't identify a Jedi by SMELL.
@haku8135 also, it’s very possible that Jedi did travel here at one point, even if they did or didnt(most likely didn’t) but whatever baylan is seeking almost certainly isn’t Jedi related. It’s most likely abeloth who has no relation to Jedi except that she likes killing them. Also if it is abeloth then she has quite a lot to do with the ones of mortis aka the mortis gods aka the son the daughter and the father, also the nightsisters actually worship the daughter and the son. It all points to that so no it is not Jedi related, and it very well might be setting up something in the future, we know they’re making more movies so it could be done in those, or it could be done in this new galaxy and not affect the old one.
@@LegoJango586 Thrawn telling them what a Jedi is would result in them seeing Sabine and going "Is this one of those Jedi you speak of?" or something like that. It wouldn't result in them being able to RECOGNIZE A JEDI (who isn't even a fucking jedi btw) BY FUCKING SMELL! That means they recognized AHSOKA (who also isn't a Jedi for fuck's sake there's ONE Jedi left in this STUPID galaxy I hate you Disney) ON SABINE SOMEHOW! And did you not even read my fucking comment? The ENTIRE thing was me saying this means Jedi MUST have been to this galaxy, and we KNOW they have been here, but only to this planet specifically. I'M saying there's NO way Jedi came here, built something super important, and then left and deleted the directions and I assume also stopped Galactic Civilization from traveling to said galaxy for some reason. They NEVER WENT BACK! If they'd gone back, this galaxy would just be ANOTHER DESTINATION, there'd be the Star Wars Galaxy, then The Other Star Wars Galaxy. They have ALL the technology and know how to colonize an entire galaxy, plotting hyperspace lanes, mining resources, every last thing they need to make this galaxy livable. On top of that, literally the FIRST PLANET VISITED IN THIS GALAXY is 100% habitable to common lifeforms. There doesn't even seem to be like, dangerous storms or massive earthquakes or some shit to worry about. It's just a normal ass planet.
Not sure if Filoni was smart enough to do that intentionally, but the series managed to heavily imply that the Jedi eradicated the witches on Peridia. At least that's the impression I got.
I didn’t like it they did thrawn and Sabine so dirty it’s honestly sad. They made Sabine annoying with 0 consequences of her actions, and not even feeling bad about what she did. The dialogue writing also sucks and is bland. Sabine in LA and rebels feel like two different characters and she didn’t need to be a Jedi sure there was only ONE sign she was force sensitive in rebels but Sabine also held her own in any situation and always had a trick up her sleeve and never relied on a lightsaber or the force. She used her rockets, explosives, cable, smoke bombs, and jet pack. Where tf are these in the show? She barely used them and I hate how they make her look stupid in this show like if she’s not a mandalorian, an explosive expert and the one who defeated Gar Saxon. Also you can literally see her mature in rebels especially when she met her family again and all the other mandalorians hate her for what she did but she just didn’t sit there and cry about it she actually did something about it which was earning their trust again. I really just hate how different LA and rebels Sabine is I don’t get how tf Dave did a whole 360 with Sabine and completely made her into dog water. I also don’t get ahsokas stupid decisions of who she wants to train she didn’t wanna train Jacen for whatever reason but didn’t wanna train Grogu because of his emotions but somehow trained Sabine who is worse💀. My mom who never saw rebels btw even thought Sabines character was trash and that says a lot as I agreed as I saw freaking rebels it’s a shame how bad they did Sabine everyone hates her. Thrawn on the other hand relies on everyone else to do things for him and he pretends to act smart but he’s not. Bros such a tactician he doesn’t know how to close a door in this show. Hope Timothy Zahn has more control with thrawn is season 2 or in the movie also hope they somehow do Sabines character justice but I feel like she got ruined like Boba, Thrawn, and Luke did. They also made the ending look like a happy one😂 Sabine and ahsoka are basically chill with being stuck in the middle of nowhere while the infamous grand admiral is FREE. The ending felt more happy as cheerful music plays and Anakin shows up wow what a happy ending so great…. (No it’s not)
one man once said about the thrawn in rebels and in ahsoka : this is how stupid people write inteligence people. he takes it at it goes and says all part of my grand plan. that is the plan all along allways saying that this is the plan. interesting also is that the blond girl looks like lana beniko from swotor.
It’s almost as if the writers, directors, actors, and society more generally have forgotten how to act like human beings dealing with real life interactions.
I have one nitpick with this video. When Huyang says "In a galaxy far far away", I think he's talking about the Star Whales which can travel intergalactically. You can tell from Ahsoka's line that starts the whole conversation.
😢… you had to remind me that Arcane exists 😭… * one half-hour later * 😢 I hate this time line. This show sucks. Star Wars is the thing that’s lost. Jedi archives be dammed. #ArcaneRoxx
I agree, Ashoka was one of the worst written and cringe Star Wars shows I've watched with only Obi Wan being worse in my opinion. So bad it ruined the Rebels show because the characters are now a bad joke.
I asked that question about the fuel over 14 years and had everyone tell me they don't need it or that Thrawn would have set up mines for fuel with no supplies even though in Rebels Thrawn loses his project from losing the fuel tank
Where is the political intrigue? Where is the meta-story? What is the Rebel Alliance actually doing all this time? Why are they not building additional bases on more planets? Where the heck are the Jedi?
i agree that the writing wasn't great but if u think about it Thrawn sending Baylon and Shin off is a tactically sound idea, like Alan says in the Generation Tech video Thrawn wants to keep all of the most unpredictable people away from his main plan so he doesn't have to deal with them, making the loading from the catacombs to the Chimera's hangar far smoother, and like Thrawn said the 2 attack squadrons are "acceptable losses"
Are we sure Dave is not being handcuffed to certain narritives by Disney? He seems to know and understand Thrawn but makes Thrawn do very non-Thrawn things
I don't get why Thrawn didn't kill Ezra for the 10 years they were both stuck on this 1 planet within about, what, 10 miles of one another? The night sisters can find him with their Jedi location skills...Ezra does not have a lightsaber...Thrawn has TIE fighters that can shoot Ezra from the sky....why the fuck did you not do anything for 10 years?!
I haven’t seen this show at all….. but….. who made the map to find the guy? If they made a map to him, they must like him. So why didn’t they just bring him back? Someone had to go from point a to point b then back again. Like I said I didn’t watch this show so it might have been conveniently explained in some ludicrous way just to make the plot happen, as is the Disney Star Wars way. A map to Luke Skywalker? Who made it. If he wanted to never be found then why is there a map? The map maker had to know where he was?! Make it make sense you stupid writers.
It was not. The force flows through all living things, but can only be harnessed by the few. Han Solo cannot just pick up a lightsaber and start using the force. If this was true, than why didn’t the republic make an army of force sensitive troopers, why didn’t the empire make an army of force sensitive troopers, why didn’t the new republic make an army of force sensitive troopers, why didn’t the first order make an army of force sensitive troopers, do you see the problem with this now?
It's almost like they went out of their way to avoid a heterosexual relationship on screen between ezra and sabine, in the land of Disney it's only gays and bisexuals
When bisexual is literally heterosexual and homosexual into one, so that by that logic, they are avoiding part of it. Disney-Lucasfilm are fullblown cowards.
Idk if ppl have been talking abt this cause I dont really pay attention. But why on earth did thrawn wait untill after the arrival of morgan to prep his ship to go.
I think it’s bc he didn’t know when she would come. Maybe he knew when she was on her way cuz the other nightsisters could sense her, but his cargo def seemed to take a while to be prepared. Either way that is a better point than most I’ve heard
@@mentvltrillness actually it’s very likely that he did. And actually now that I think about it, it’s almost been confirmed. First, thrawn says, “our numbers have dwindled over the years,” we’ve seen that Ezra is much stronger with the force so thrawn probably has tried to hunt him down. Second, Ezra is wearing what are likely storm trooper dog tags…. Also if he hasn’t looked at all, there are many possible reasons for that
@@LegoJango586 bro I think that's you just filling in the gaps for the lack luster writing. If he indeed did search for Ezra, all they needed was a few lines of dialogue, but they never actually said it out loud. Plus it was very easy for Thrawn to track down Ahsoka immediately after she arrived; and if Ezra was very strong in the force, why did Sabine have to save him in the finale?
@@mentvltrillness I literally just quoted a line of dialogue that shows rhey most likely did search for ezra. And as for that part with the finale, I’m not sure, I think they wanted to show that Sabine finally unlocked the force(as dumb as it is for Sabine) either way it was quite a far jump
1:46 "All the history that Huyang has is in the same galaxy that he resides in". That doesn't make sense. Is there only one galaxy in Star Wars? Why can't he have data from other galaxies?
@@ActuallyAndrewYTI had to rewatch episode 6 myself and I struggle to find him saying that "All the history he has is in the same galaxy he resides in". He says that he has "History of the galaxy, parts 1,2 and 3" in his archive memory, but I don't think that's the only history he has. But thank you anyway, mate.
@@AlexS-hw4if in star wars lore, up until this disney bullshit, the other galaxies were unexplored by the vast majority of those in the main galaxy. Disney is adding in context that shouldnt exist and creates problems in the lore
@ActuallyAndrewYT wasn't the "along time a go in a galaxy far far away" line him literally telling ahsoka a children's story/ legend that the she heard as a youngling?
When a show is so bad that you can't sit through a TH-camr making fun of how bad it is because it's that damn bad I truly hate Disney for what they did to Star Wars
Thrawn was so underwhelming, it made me confused when I saw so many people praising his role in the show! Thrawn should've been like the legendary Chinese strategist Zhuge Liang who was the top military leader and prime minister of Shu in the Three Kingdoms. Watching Zhuge Liang in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms TV show is a real display of strategic genius, using all sorts of creative tricks to defeat enemies.
Forgive my ignorance, but I still don't understand why mandalorian armor can withstand so many blaster shots yet imperial armor doesn't stop anything and they die instantly. I also didn't see the blatant rip offs from Lord of the Rings until Nerdrotic pointed them out. Ashoka the white?
Well, to delve into my nerd archives, Mandalorian armour prevents the blaster bolts from penetrating, as beskar can do that. Whereas stormtrooper armour is made of plastoid steal and is designed mainly to absorb the shock of the blast by spreading it out more, which has a higher chance of the trooper being wounded, but is more likely to save the trooper’s life. That’s what I remember. Of course, the actual reason is stormtroopers are expendable bad guys and Mandalorian are good guys.
@@konstantinosnikolakakis8125 yeah I do believe it’s bc mandalorians have beskar. And yeah it’s prob actually bc mandos are good guys, but at least there seems to be an in universe explanation.
Oh and uh, what’s wrong with Ahsoka the white? Dave literally said he wanted Ahsoka to become a Gandalf like figure. And also, it might be a little hard to find something no one has done before…. So technically almost anything could be a rip off of something. Also Ahsoka the white sounds like an awesome idea. Why u got a problem with it?
… bro you do realize Sabine is supposed to be a teenager on this show. She’s bound to make mistakes and what teenager do you know care about there mistakes? Also if she doesn’t make the mistake we don’t get Thrawn. Your review has good points but some of them are just you overdoing it. My main beef with the show was Ashoka and Sabine actresses can’t act and Sabine in the span of 5 minutes becomes one of the most powerful Jedi’s to master a force push.
it’s not that we can’t be pleased bro, Dave has done a lot of good for Star Wars in the past but he should not be the sole creative mind for the franchise. All he does is make things about nostalgia with no profession or fresh ideas. We need more stuff like Jedi Survivor and Andor. Dave isn’t giving us that.
I hate to break it to you, but people don't act rationally, so as much as I dislike Sabine in this series, her behaviour kinda makes sense in the way that she only cares about finding Ezra. The only thing you can do is hate on stuff it seems, this isn't even constructive criticism. I am not saying Ahsoka is perfect (far from it) but you seem like a really dislikable youtuber. I honestly have no idea why your video got recommended to me (I actually can enjoy Star Wars) on the front page. I hope there are at least some things in life you can enjoy.
I enjoy Star Wars when it’s good. Andor is peak peak Star Wars. And yes, Sabines actions are completely out of character considering that she is twice the age she was in Rebels, but has regressed as a character in this show being reduced to a snarky irresponsible child throughout the entire show. Oh and it doesn’t get better in episode 7
@@ActuallyAndrewYT I do agree about Andor, but come on there are many things to like about Ahsoka. Baylan and Shin are amazing, I would say Ezra is himself like in Rebels (sorry for my English can't think of the proper expression he just feels like Ezra should). Thrawn is sort of disappointing compared to the books but it's still great to see him in live action. Enoch seems cool. The Noti were nice. It's cool to learn about the Night Sisters' history. It's great to see Chopper. There are many things to enjoy, I personally try not to compare other stuff to Andor because compared to Andor nothing is great.
Thank god you put that Arcane comparison at the end. I had to stop watching at that point in the video. Arcane is overhyped and your comparison doesn’t really add to your argument for people who haven’t seen it. Good video overall.
I agree with most of your points. But after watching Episode 6 (I started at 4), I have a hard time taking Star Wars seriously. The narrative's foundational elements unravel under even modest scrutiny. Take, for example, the dualistic underpinning of its world-building-dark versus light. This framework seems reductive, especially when contrasted with the complexities of reality, where moral absolutes are rare and "badness" often stems from psychological imbalances or excesses. My aim isn't to critique, but rather to understand the impetus behind expecting anything serious from the franchise.
The OG series does not depict light vs dark as some all or nothing affair. It does, basically, the exact opposite. Outside of Palpatine. Darkness is rather bluntly described as negative emotions and actions. Succumb to them and you are likely to continue succumbing to them. It's a behavioral metaphor, not a good vs bad metaphor.
I clicked this video because I like the agree with what you say but I can't get over when you were rambling about the droid saying "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away." The story starts in another galaxy and if you didn't figure that out, I don't care to hear anything else you have to say.
The show was just so bad and corny. Its like they used the same goofballs at the park for the show and it was acted out on film. So awful and just a pile of trash. This is must NOT SEE tv
I agree with everyting except the "long time ago in a galaxy far far away". He doesn't only now history he knows "STORIES" FICTION. Like that's really just dumb how that's not clear.. but anyways. Everything else checks out
Does anyone understand that thrawn is literally only concerned with his cargo and getting the heck off this planet? Everything else is inconsequential to him
By everything else you mean the people actively attempting to prevent him from leaving. Wouldn’t it make more sense to just kill them when you had the chance and leave. Hell, Ezra should be dead already, either dead or on Thrawn’s side.
@@konstantinosnikolakakis8125 first of all the show literally tells you that he wasn’t able to kill Ezra, And and the show tells you that Ezra couldn’t come close to him, so, thrawn just decided to leave it at a stalemate. Secondly, my point is he was unconcerned whether the protagonists survived or not, he just wanted to delay them long enough so he could get away. Also he didn’t care that two dark Jedi just fell into his lap, all he wants is to get away, every decision he has made was to further that goal. I’ll admit that not killing Sabine when he could’ve was a bit weird, but baylan did promise her that she would see Ezra again. Also thrawn knew Vader and Vader only became Vader because of his emotional attachment, so he knows that if he kills Sabine, that might piss off ezra and Ahsoka enough to get them so enraged that they could just storm thrawn ship and kill him. That has a very low chance of happening but thrawn didn’t want to take the chance.
@@LegoJango586 Couldn't come close to him? Mate, Ezra was a day's giant dog ride away, and Thrawn has tie fighters. Just because a show tells us something happened doesn't mean it makes sense. The Last Jedi told us that Luke tried to murder Kylo Ren based on a premonition, but that doesn't mean it makes sense.
Admiral Thrawn is the kind of guy who'd walk into the room, trip over his own feet, stumble down the stairs, poop his pants in the process, stand up with as his pants fall down around his ankles and then say: Ahhh... all part of my plan. Then take a step forward, slip on his own poop and face plant onto the floor.
i mean at the end of the day its in his grand design.
Haven’t had a comment make me laugh this hard in a while
I had way more fun reading your comment than watching the whole Ahsoka series.
The real Thrawn would do all of that and the heroes suddenly find themselves captured with their fleet destroyed because they got caught up in the distraction. This blue guy in this show is NOT Thrawn.
@@barnabusdoyle4930 Thrawn once won a battle against an enemy admiral while standing on that Admiral's bridge.
When you don't have any tactically literate writers to write the tactical genius...
Pretty much lol. Every character in Andor sounds smarter than Thrawn.
@@ActuallyAndrewYT honestly that isn't saying much.
It's not like Timothy Zahn wasn't available or anything...
@@ActuallyAndrewYTHow do dead Whales rot in Space anyway ?
@@ActuallyAndrewYTagreed and thrawn us supposed to be smart
There seems to be a sort of underlying narcissism in Dave Filoni’s work. Everything he makes must be central to the core narrative of Star Wars. His work has a parasitic relationship to the main saga; he never makes anything truly original, only ever working in the shadow of another movie or novel made by far more talented writers (Heir to the Empire, OT, PT, etc.); but always, he tries to recontextualize those stories to place his characters at the narrative forefront. All of his OCs are kept alive inexplicably throughout the whole arc of the Skywalker story; often times long after their arcs have reached a natural and satisfactory ending point. Stylistically he relies far too heavily upon callbacks and cameos to keep his stories engaging. He constantly talks about George’s mentorship over him to give people the impression that he is a sort of inheritor to the Star Wars legacy, which legitimizes his fan-fiction. When he wants to be taken more seriously, he parrots the aesthetics of greater respected works like Blade Runner or Akira Kurosawa’s filmography, but always misses what made those films truly special. This became clearer than ever to me with Tales of the Jedi, a darker, self-serious series which attempted to paint itself as mature political and moral commentary (According to Filoni, long, drawn out scenes with no dialogue means his work is deep. He continues this gimmick in Ahsoka). However Ahsoka was released in the shadow of Andor, and when you directly compare how these two works approach the same themes, the surface-level nature of his writing becomes incredibly apparent. Let us also not forget how completely hypocritical Filoni is when it comes to the treatment of writers' original characters. He's against anyone else writing for his own OC's (Ahsoka novel) and demonstrates this in his Tales of the Jedi retcons, yet he'll gladly take another writer's OC (Thrawn) and butcher their character beyond recognition. Filoni has a knack for taking once beloved characters and making them into shells of their former selves to bolster his preferred characters (what he did to Barriss to make Ahsoka look better is a prime example of this). But that's what you have to do when you don't have talent.
I agree with everything you said and the Filoni Fanboys call the original works that respected what came before and adding to it as "fanfiction that works as inspiration" Calling ahsoka his pet isn't far off either he can't seem to let her go.
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Clone wars hater?
@@corazonsantos2581 it’s half decent. Unfortunately it breaks a lot of lore. I prefer Tartakovsky’s
@@Pintoman101 What lore does it break?
Nah nah you don't get it. She just sacrificed her entire galaxy to MEET her friend again... Filoni is a clown lol.
That wasn't the worse part, the worse was when they actually meet. You would think that, like you said, after risking the entire galaxy to see him, she could of at least ran to him and embraced/hugged - something showing the clearly emotional choice she made.
@@rianmacdonald9454 You mean love? Sorry but this is Disney. They avoid any sort of love they possibly can.
Her friend who is like her brother🤓
when the rent-a-cops in Andor are more tactically smart then the supposed tactical genius Thrawn
Sabine is really just terrible in this show. She’s almost twice as old as she was in rebels yet seems to have regressed to being a selfish child. Considering this episode was significantly better than the dumpster fire that is episode 7, I’m curious to see your next video
Episode 7 is probably the 2nd worst considering that next week is the finale and nothing happened this week.
E8 is directed by one of the good Mando directors. Hopefully he can overcome the terrible story thus far!
Don't really care about her character, the acting is egregious and almost made me stop watching
@blazestudios23 fair enough
Let me guess; Thrawn is an idiot, like he was in Rebels? Because man, I feel bad for Disney Star Wars fans who think this depiction of Thrawn is good. Go read Heir to the Empire(or listen to the audiobooks) or the duology if you want Thrawn at his best.
there's a series following the comics on youtube, i recomend that
the Disney novels also do a good job in expanding his intellect and growth within the ranks of the Empire
sucks that these days, in order to get good villains who are actually smart, we have to go look for them in novels or anime instead of western television
To have a villain with intelligence, you need the writer to be intelligent . And it's obvious that Filoni isn't intelligent.
In Rebels he had some victories at least.
@arongebremedhin9764 That’s because those novels were written by Timothy Zahn.
I’m glad more people are Finallyy coming around to realizing Filoni is not the “GOAT” of Star Wars that too many fans claims he is. He’s done a lot of good for Star Wars but he’s also the reason why Star Wars isn’t being new and progressing like it should.
The reason was the cutting of the EU. They should have kept the reimanginings and their new ideas separately from the already well written New Empire stories. Also the problem of the new movies and the producer direction make this situation unsalvegable. Star Wars will remain doomed until they rectify everything they've done since Lucas departed.
Gideon's introduction in Mando season 1 was waaaaaay more intimidating than This Thrawn.
"If you lose 9/10 battles. Shift everyone's attention to the one battle you did win"
If lightning strikes. Say "ahhh right on schedual"
If you know nothing about a subject. Ask the teacher to elaborat. Respond with "hmm my suspicions were correct"
When the clock is about to turn 12:00pm. 10 seconds before the chime. Tell everyone the clock is about to chime.
- The Art of War. Thrawn edition
Lolo
They could have made Thrawn into the character he was in the Trilogy and consulted military and intelligence operatives about methods used by real-life militaries and intelligence agencies.
They should have kept Thrawn as a behind the scenes character but also given him significant progress since we last saw him. Show how great of a villain he is through his actions and accomplishments. Instead of a Thrawn who sat on his hands for 10+ years, show Thrawn’s forces having taken control of a few star systems in the new galaxy and building up his fleet. Constructed a cloning facility to be able to supplement his forces. Working on building an engine to get back to his galaxy.
That way the heroes could have been facing Imperial forces, maybe a higher ranking lieutenant or commander and keeping Thrawn as a mysterious shadowy figure at the top that we almost never see until he springs his trap and escapes back to his galaxy.
Better yet, they could have consulted Timothy Zahn on how his mind works since they clearly didn't read the books past" he's blue" and "a military genius."
@@greghannibal This, but you didn't need to consult Zahn at all. The "Heir To the Empire" trilogy had it already laid out.
My headcanon is that Thrawn is zombie himself. Thats why his iq is like 70.
What a coincidence that Thrawn's super-secret, intergalactic location that Morgan has been desperately seeking the map to, just happens to be the planet she grew up on. Incredible. As in literally, not credible.
Well, no. Morgan is from Darthomir but Peridea is a planet of nightsisters for some reason. Imagine if instead of nightsisters, there would be some different cult from which nightsisters came from
Thrawn can loose 1000 star destroyers, a Death Star, and his entire army and will still somehow call it a victory
He even deliberately lets the Rebels escape because he is too smart to win.
Season two will start with Sabine, who's been in a coma ever since that time Shin killed her, waking from her bacta tank after a year or two and telling Ahsoka that she just had the wildest dream. None of that silliness with the Night Queen will have actually happened, and when we finally do see Thrawn he'll be as terrifying and brilliant as he is in those old books.
My favorite example is when he fired on his own Tie Defender just because he got upset with the pilot, and played right into Hera's plan and she defeated his Defender and broke his blockade. But if didn't fire on his own fighter, Hera's plan wouldn't have worked...
This show proved Filoni is a talentless hack. They need to get him off this project
So many times Thrawn was told to his face that the human officer's didn't like him, and everytime one of his plans failed, it was because an officer didn't like him... you'd think he would have a back up plan for when one of his guys stop liking him... instead of it always be a huge and unexpected surprise... haha
The first thing Thrawn would do is kill Sabine. Then Ezra does not get found and Ahsoka has nowhere to go. They leave Ezra and Ahsoka in the other galaxy and go and have fun in the correct galaxy.
Ah yes, the "Slams di*k in a car door ->Masterful gambit sir" school of writing a genius character, my favourite
Thrawn had an appreciation for culture and art in the books, I don't think he would wipe out the koopas without a damn good reason.
In the books Thrawn didn't kill for killing's sake. The koopas would be safe, they presented zero threat to Thrawn and his forces. He also did not throw away his troops for stupid reasons in the books. He used his forces wisely. In the books, Thrawn despised ineptness and rewarded competency. I recall Thrawn having an incompetent crewman killed immediately while later on, another crewman that failed in capturing the Rebels but did everything right was rewarded, commended on the spot in front of everyone.
What we see of Thrawn now is nothing at all like this.
They real fucked up Thrawn. He was so intimidating in the books and in Rebels, and they just screwed it.
Really, except for Andor, Disney Wars is one big, bad fan fiction. The idea of Sabine betraying Ezra's sacrifice is also comedic as hell.
Well Ezra did say “I knew I could count on you.” Implying he was hoping she would come for him….
Also I’ll agree wjth you on Disney Star Wars being a problem, except for two spots, andor and Ahsoka. And if you wanna fight me about Ahsoka then go ahead. No one seems to understand what is going on in the show and then always calls it bad.
@@LegoJango586 Everything is explained in Ahsoka, I'm being talked down to by adult actors forced to imitate a lifeless version of their cartoon counterpart. That is why I say it's bad because the explanations don't help anything and neither does the delivery.
@@willow1601 there was a crap ton that they didn’t explain bc they were expecting you to have watched rebels and clone wars
In the beginning of this episode the in a galaxy Far Far away line. While the line is bad, it could work because they are leaving thier Galaxy and likely have left by that point in whale's mouth.
I’ve never seen a show that literally achieves nothing quite the way this one does. What a monumental waste of time money and resources
The scene with Baylon talking to shin on the new planet was actually one of my favorite parts of the show, even though the dialogue from Shin can be clunky, Ray stevenson is just such a good actor, especially when he’s talking about his greater purpose and ending the cycle, it’s too bad the finale didn’t build on any of that…
Also when Sabine took that blunt blow to the head and stood back up was ridiculous.
Shoot Sabine. Thrawn wins.
14:16 Sabine is acting that was because she hasn’t come to terms with Ezra friend zoning her.
lmao
Sabine literally hurts everyone more than the villains do.
"Shin you're too perfect" that hits my heart
Nothing can know everything. Ideas have an entropic limit and the universe has no top or bottom. That robot must be god.
DIsney and Star Wars have spawned a whole new industry where it's more fun watching people make fun of DIsney and Star Wars rather than watching the actual movies/tv themselves.
I posted comments on SW Megs vote post. This Filoni fan boy goes back and forth with me about how bad my objections are. For instance, in the first episode when Baylan was blocking blaster fire, he looked like a robot. I pointed out that the Rogue One Vader scene was much better. I also said the Mando and Andor series were leaps and bounds better. After several back and forths, the guy says basically the same team as Mando is doing Ahsoka. Different actors, directors and story writers. Filoni was credited with three Mando Episodes! The guy says the BTS is the same. So I replied I give you that the scene and costumes are good. No good story! No good directing! But the scene building and costumes are good?
I would rather have Tom Baker Era Dr. Who. That was good story with terrible costumes and scenes.
Episode 7 was the epitome of filler. Just a massive nothing burger. The writers aka Dave Filoni were just treading water to fill out an episode until we get to the finale.
"It reeks of the Jedi"
So we find out later these 3 witches are actually NATIVE to the planet they are on. Thrawn found them and woke them up. Yet they know about Jedi?
This means Jedi went to this galaxy, to this specific planet no less, and spoiler alert they did some really important shit on this planet that Baylen wants so badly he's willing to sacrifice the entire main galaxy by returning Thrawn to it. So the Jedi went here, and they built something important..... Then they just STOPPED.
They didn't venture out and populate AN ENTIRE GALAXY, they just popped by this singular planet, did something really important that won't effect the future of Star Wars because remember this all leads to the sequel trilogy, and then went back and deleted the directions to this planet, though they left in the archives it's POSSIBLE to get here, but nobody ever tried doing that.
Hyperspace lanes aren't just magical relics of a bygone age that modern people need to find to unlock the ability to travel to a new solar system in the galaxy. They PLOT these routes themselves! It takes some time and it's a bit dangerous, but ALL the hyperlanes in the main galaxy were found this way. The hyperspace lane to another galaxy, WOULD BE POINTING THE SHIP IN THAT DIRECTION AND GOING TO THE GALAXY! Cause a hyperlane isn't an actual thing that exists, it's a route through a GALAXY that is safe to travel at hyperspeed. As Han explains in episode 4, if you just jump without looking where you're going you might come out in the middle of a star, FUCK OFF LAST JEDI. Hyperlanes are just sections of space that are EMPTY and therefore safe to drop in and out of hyperspace in. Makes considerably less sense how hyperspace whales exist, Mass Effect did it WAY better, but that's beside the point.
The point is, if you have the desire to get to another galaxy, you can do that. Just find the galaxy, and go towards it. Might take a bit of time, but you can just build a bigger ship to sustain a crew for the journey, with plenty of supplies to get more food and stuff once you're there. Once you're IN the galaxy you need to scout hyperspace lanes, which is dangerous and time consuming but at the end of it you'll be able to dart around the second galaxy as easily as the first.
So, the Jedi found this galaxy, GOT to this galaxy, and just decided to LEAVE and nobody else in the ENTIRE GALAXY thought it would be a good idea to colonize this galaxy!? BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSHIT!
Not even the SITH!?
It's simple, they know Ezra, and he is a Jedi.
@@Сайтамен Except they DON'T know Ezra. Ezra is not their poker buddy. Ezra, since arriving on this planet, has been on the run from Thrawn who understandably WANTS TO KILL HIM.
Ezra certainly would not have hung around Thrawn long enough for him to scout the planet, locate the sisters, figure out how to wake them, actually wake them, and then explain what the Jedi are ENOUGH THAT THE NIGHT SISTERS HATE THEM INHERENTLY!
No, that doesn't work. They especially couldn't identify a Jedi by SMELL.
Thrawn would’ve told them about Jedi… also is it so much of a stretch to think that Jedi may have come here before?
@haku8135 also, it’s very possible that Jedi did travel here at one point, even if they did or didnt(most likely didn’t) but whatever baylan is seeking almost certainly isn’t Jedi related. It’s most likely abeloth who has no relation to Jedi except that she likes killing them. Also if it is abeloth then she has quite a lot to do with the ones of mortis aka the mortis gods aka the son the daughter and the father, also the nightsisters actually worship the daughter and the son. It all points to that so no it is not Jedi related, and it very well might be setting up something in the future, we know they’re making more movies so it could be done in those, or it could be done in this new galaxy and not affect the old one.
@@LegoJango586 Thrawn telling them what a Jedi is would result in them seeing Sabine and going "Is this one of those Jedi you speak of?" or something like that.
It wouldn't result in them being able to RECOGNIZE A JEDI (who isn't even a fucking jedi btw) BY FUCKING SMELL!
That means they recognized AHSOKA (who also isn't a Jedi for fuck's sake there's ONE Jedi left in this STUPID galaxy I hate you Disney) ON SABINE SOMEHOW!
And did you not even read my fucking comment?
The ENTIRE thing was me saying this means Jedi MUST have been to this galaxy, and we KNOW they have been here, but only to this planet specifically. I'M saying there's NO way Jedi came here, built something super important, and then left and deleted the directions and I assume also stopped Galactic Civilization from traveling to said galaxy for some reason.
They NEVER WENT BACK! If they'd gone back, this galaxy would just be ANOTHER DESTINATION, there'd be the Star Wars Galaxy, then The Other Star Wars Galaxy. They have ALL the technology and know how to colonize an entire galaxy, plotting hyperspace lanes, mining resources, every last thing they need to make this galaxy livable. On top of that, literally the FIRST PLANET VISITED IN THIS GALAXY is 100% habitable to common lifeforms. There doesn't even seem to be like, dangerous storms or massive earthquakes or some shit to worry about. It's just a normal ass planet.
Species going to a place to die isn't that strange for fish it happens to salmon after they mate though
Not sure if Filoni was smart enough to do that intentionally, but the series managed to heavily imply that the Jedi eradicated the witches on Peridia. At least that's the impression I got.
I didn’t like it they did thrawn and Sabine so dirty it’s honestly sad. They made Sabine annoying with 0 consequences of her actions, and not even feeling bad about what she did. The dialogue writing also sucks and is bland. Sabine in LA and rebels feel like two different characters and she didn’t need to be a Jedi sure there was only ONE sign she was force sensitive in rebels but Sabine also held her own in any situation and always had a trick up her sleeve and never relied on a lightsaber or the force. She used her rockets, explosives, cable, smoke bombs, and jet pack. Where tf are these in the show? She barely used them and I hate how they make her look stupid in this show like if she’s not a mandalorian, an explosive expert and the one who defeated Gar Saxon. Also you can literally see her mature in rebels especially when she met her family again and all the other mandalorians hate her for what she did but she just didn’t sit there and cry about it she actually did something about it which was earning their trust again. I really just hate how different LA and rebels Sabine is I don’t get how tf Dave did a whole 360 with Sabine and completely made her into dog water. I also don’t get ahsokas stupid decisions of who she wants to train she didn’t wanna train Jacen for whatever reason but didn’t wanna train Grogu because of his emotions but somehow trained Sabine who is worse💀. My mom who never saw rebels btw even thought Sabines character was trash and that says a lot as I agreed as I saw freaking rebels it’s a shame how bad they did Sabine everyone hates her. Thrawn on the other hand relies on everyone else to do things for him and he pretends to act smart but he’s not. Bros such a tactician he doesn’t know how to close a door in this show. Hope Timothy Zahn has more control with thrawn is season 2 or in the movie also hope they somehow do Sabines character justice but I feel like she got ruined like Boba, Thrawn, and Luke did. They also made the ending look like a happy one😂 Sabine and ahsoka are basically chill with being stuck in the middle of nowhere while the infamous grand admiral is FREE. The ending felt more happy as cheerful music plays and Anakin shows up wow what a happy ending so great…. (No it’s not)
Poor guy has blue balls every day. No wonder he’s so angry.
Actually in the extended universe it's cannon that he's pink from his waste to his knees
Thrawn truly is one of the military commanders of all time
one man once said about the thrawn in rebels and in ahsoka : this is how stupid people write inteligence people. he takes it at it goes and says all part of my grand plan. that is the plan all along allways saying that this is the plan.
interesting also is that the blond girl looks like lana beniko from swotor.
It’s almost as if the writers, directors, actors, and society more generally have forgotten how to act like human beings dealing with real life interactions.
I think Baylan will find Snoke, and I think Ezra doesn't make it off the planet!
That is a crazy theory, but I will let you cook
Didnt age well
Boy was I wrong!
@@Blimpus I also had a theory that didnt work lol
I have one nitpick with this video. When Huyang says "In a galaxy far far away", I think he's talking about the Star Whales which can travel intergalactically. You can tell from Ahsoka's line that starts the whole conversation.
😢… you had to remind me that Arcane exists 😭…
* one half-hour later *
😢 I hate this time line. This show sucks. Star Wars is the thing that’s lost. Jedi archives be dammed.
#ArcaneRoxx
I will take any opportunity to talk about Arcane >:)
@@ActuallyAndrewYT Arcane is one of the best things to happen in the last few years. A blessing, to honest.
Go with your bad self.
Shin is Baylan’s puppy. Stories are stories. Wut, is Kamala the writer.
5:16 Of course, the Dathomiri were originally Humans before Filoni decided to change the canon. Perhaps he can't keep track of his own edits.
People always say the prequels were poorly written… I doubt they’d say that if they knew what current day “Star Wars” looks like.
I agree, Ashoka was one of the worst written and cringe Star Wars shows I've watched with only Obi Wan being worse in my opinion. So bad it ruined the Rebels show because the characters are now a bad joke.
there are many great mothers and leaders from dathomir, and these 3 great mothers are separate from mother talzin
Thrawns return doesnt even have much consequence because hes been made into an idiot
Thats not a dog thats a dawg
This happens when dumb people try to write smart characters. It's just not going to work out. It feels like an enthusiastic child written this.
That is a law of storytelling: you cannot write a character that is more intelligent than yourself
Pfft 0:23
They weren't going plaid. ✋🧐
I asked that question about the fuel over 14 years and had everyone tell me they don't need it or that Thrawn would have set up mines for fuel with no supplies even though in Rebels Thrawn loses his project from losing the fuel tank
Somehow the information is there.
Where is the political intrigue? Where is the meta-story? What is the Rebel Alliance actually doing all this time? Why are they not building additional bases on more planets? Where the heck are the Jedi?
Well there’s only a couple Jedi left. And Luke and leia are doing their own thing rn
Thrawn looks like a blue Data, change my mind
Im so glad you addressed the tease of a new universe that ended up so lame
Star Wars just needs to die now
It died already in 2012, after agonizing for 4 years
i agree that the writing wasn't great but if u think about it Thrawn sending Baylon and Shin off is a tactically sound idea, like Alan says in the Generation Tech video Thrawn wants to keep all of the most unpredictable people away from his main plan so he doesn't have to deal with them, making the loading from the catacombs to the Chimera's hangar far smoother, and like Thrawn said the 2 attack squadrons are "acceptable losses"
Thrawn could of just killed Sabine and left. Ezra hasn’t been an issue for the last 10 years he won’t be one for the next few days
You're a fan of your American Psycho memes aren't ya?
Thrawn is what a stupid person imagins what a smart person would be like.
Are we sure Dave is not being handcuffed to certain narritives by Disney? He seems to know and understand Thrawn but makes Thrawn do very non-Thrawn things
I have no words anymore. Lol.
Idk man, coughing babies can be pretty dangerous u know ... u dont wanna catch the COVID
I don't get why Thrawn didn't kill Ezra for the 10 years they were both stuck on this 1 planet within about, what, 10 miles of one another? The night sisters can find him with their Jedi location skills...Ezra does not have a lightsaber...Thrawn has TIE fighters that can shoot Ezra from the sky....why the fuck did you not do anything for 10 years?!
I haven’t seen this show at all….. but….. who made the map to find the guy? If they made a map to him, they must like him. So why didn’t they just bring him back? Someone had to go from point a to point b then back again. Like I said I didn’t watch this show so it might have been conveniently explained in some ludicrous way just to make the plot happen, as is the Disney Star Wars way. A map to Luke Skywalker? Who made it. If he wanted to never be found then why is there a map? The map maker had to know where he was?! Make it make sense you stupid writers.
All this hate 😂 and to answer 1 out of many anyone can use the force smh was told to us from the original trilogy
It was not. The force flows through all living things, but can only be harnessed by the few. Han Solo cannot just pick up a lightsaber and start using the force. If this was true, than why didn’t the republic make an army of force sensitive troopers, why didn’t the empire make an army of force sensitive troopers, why didn’t the new republic make an army of force sensitive troopers, why didn’t the first order make an army of force sensitive troopers, do you see the problem with this now?
I literally just explained it I don’t know what you’re talking about
@@ActuallyAndrewYT with training anyone can access the force
Where is that stated in the OT?
@@poohwarrick5640no, very few people are force sensitive
It's almost like they went out of their way to avoid a heterosexual relationship on screen between ezra and sabine, in the land of Disney it's only gays and bisexuals
When bisexual is literally heterosexual and homosexual into one, so that by that logic, they are avoiding part of it.
Disney-Lucasfilm are fullblown cowards.
Ahsoka being bad and mediocre is way worse than BOBF, Kenobi or Mando S3 being bad and mediocre. Luckily I no longer care.
That's it, guys! He plays 4D chess. He's so brilliant you can't even see the brilliance! Like Trump! And Elon!
Idk if ppl have been talking abt this cause I dont really pay attention. But why on earth did thrawn wait untill after the arrival of morgan to prep his ship to go.
He also didn't even search for ezra for 10 years
I think it’s bc he didn’t know when she would come. Maybe he knew when she was on her way cuz the other nightsisters could sense her, but his cargo def seemed to take a while to be prepared. Either way that is a better point than most I’ve heard
@@mentvltrillness actually it’s very likely that he did. And actually now that I think about it, it’s almost been confirmed. First, thrawn says, “our numbers have dwindled over the years,” we’ve seen that Ezra is much stronger with the force so thrawn probably has tried to hunt him down. Second, Ezra is wearing what are likely storm trooper dog tags….
Also if he hasn’t looked at all, there are many possible reasons for that
@@LegoJango586 bro I think that's you just filling in the gaps for the lack luster writing. If he indeed did search for Ezra, all they needed was a few lines of dialogue, but they never actually said it out loud. Plus it was very easy for Thrawn to track down Ahsoka immediately after she arrived; and if Ezra was very strong in the force, why did Sabine have to save him in the finale?
@@mentvltrillness I literally just quoted a line of dialogue that shows rhey most likely did search for ezra. And as for that part with the finale, I’m not sure, I think they wanted to show that Sabine finally unlocked the force(as dumb as it is for Sabine) either way it was quite a far jump
I dunno if I'd call the guy who uses clan worshipping Darth Vader as bodyguards while fighting his children a genius
1:46 "All the history that Huyang has is in the same galaxy that he resides in". That doesn't make sense. Is there only one galaxy in Star Wars? Why can't he have data from other galaxies?
He’s telling the history of the galaxy he resides in. He says that… in the episode…
@@ActuallyAndrewYTI had to rewatch episode 6 myself and I struggle to find him saying that "All the history he has is in the same galaxy he resides in". He says that he has "History of the galaxy, parts 1,2 and 3" in his archive memory, but I don't think that's the only history he has. But thank you anyway, mate.
@@AlexS-hw4if in star wars lore, up until this disney bullshit, the other galaxies were unexplored by the vast majority of those in the main galaxy. Disney is adding in context that shouldnt exist and creates problems in the lore
@ActuallyAndrewYT wasn't the "along time a go in a galaxy far far away" line him literally telling ahsoka a children's story/ legend that the she heard as a youngling?
@@pungivergiverofpuns3611 for all we know huyang could’ve just meant the unknown regions. But that line was likely just a joke.
Dave, the false prophet
Great writing would have been Ezra is dead and she make a grand mistake.
They are trying to give every strong female hero the personality of Clint Eastwood's Man With No Name. But they can't pull it off.
When a show is so bad that you can't sit through a TH-camr making fun of how bad it is because it's that damn bad
I truly hate Disney for what they did to Star Wars
Thrawn was so underwhelming, it made me confused when I saw so many people praising his role in the show!
Thrawn should've been like the legendary Chinese strategist Zhuge Liang who was the top military leader and prime minister of Shu in the Three Kingdoms. Watching Zhuge Liang in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms TV show is a real display of strategic genius, using all sorts of creative tricks to defeat enemies.
Forgive my ignorance, but I still don't understand why mandalorian armor can withstand so many blaster shots yet imperial armor doesn't stop anything and they die instantly. I also didn't see the blatant rip offs from Lord of the Rings until Nerdrotic pointed them out. Ashoka the white?
Well, to delve into my nerd archives, Mandalorian armour prevents the blaster bolts from penetrating, as beskar can do that. Whereas stormtrooper armour is made of plastoid steal and is designed mainly to absorb the shock of the blast by spreading it out more, which has a higher chance of the trooper being wounded, but is more likely to save the trooper’s life. That’s what I remember. Of course, the actual reason is stormtroopers are expendable bad guys and Mandalorian are good guys.
@@konstantinosnikolakakis8125 yeah I do believe it’s bc mandalorians have beskar. And yeah it’s prob actually bc mandos are good guys, but at least there seems to be an in universe explanation.
Oh and uh, what’s wrong with Ahsoka the white? Dave literally said he wanted Ahsoka to become a Gandalf like figure. And also, it might be a little hard to find something no one has done before…. So technically almost anything could be a rip off of something. Also Ahsoka the white sounds like an awesome idea. Why u got a problem with it?
… bro you do realize Sabine is supposed to be a teenager on this show. She’s bound to make mistakes and what teenager do you know care about there mistakes? Also if she doesn’t make the mistake we don’t get Thrawn. Your review has good points but some of them are just you overdoing it. My main beef with the show was Ashoka and Sabine actresses can’t act and Sabine in the span of 5 minutes becomes one of the most powerful Jedi’s to master a force push.
Sabine is around 30 in the show.
As with every episode the only good part is Baylan and Shin
Just make your own cinematic universe and see how your fans react...cant please you people
it’s not that we can’t be pleased bro, Dave has done a lot of good for Star Wars in the past but he should not be the sole creative mind for the franchise. All he does is make things about nostalgia with no profession or fresh ideas. We need more stuff like Jedi Survivor and Andor. Dave isn’t giving us that.
Maybe people just want consistently good writing. Omg what an unreasonable thing to ask for.
I really wanted to like this show but i knew it was gonna be garbage. Thrawn ezra and this "new galaxy" have been supppper disappointing.
Sabine is the worst live action character I’ve ever seen in SW. Hoping she turns and gets a lightsaber through the dome 👍🏼
Disney's never going to let her become a villain, even though her actions are reprehensible
Yeah Sabine was actually a legitimate problem
Natasha can't act FFS and Sabine is not a Jedi!!!!!
He is Evil Elon Musk😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thrawn Is not a tactical genius in ahsoka
I hate to break it to you, but people don't act rationally, so as much as I dislike Sabine in this series, her behaviour kinda makes sense in the way that she only cares about finding Ezra.
The only thing you can do is hate on stuff it seems, this isn't even constructive criticism. I am not saying Ahsoka is perfect (far from it) but you seem like a really dislikable youtuber. I honestly have no idea why your video got recommended to me (I actually can enjoy Star Wars) on the front page. I hope there are at least some things in life you can enjoy.
I enjoy Star Wars when it’s good. Andor is peak peak Star Wars. And yes, Sabines actions are completely out of character considering that she is twice the age she was in Rebels, but has regressed as a character in this show being reduced to a snarky irresponsible child throughout the entire show. Oh and it doesn’t get better in episode 7
@@ActuallyAndrewYT I do agree about Andor, but come on there are many things to like about Ahsoka. Baylan and Shin are amazing, I would say Ezra is himself like in Rebels (sorry for my English can't think of the proper expression he just feels like Ezra should). Thrawn is sort of disappointing compared to the books but it's still great to see him in live action. Enoch seems cool. The Noti were nice. It's cool to learn about the Night Sisters' history. It's great to see Chopper. There are many things to enjoy, I personally try not to compare other stuff to Andor because compared to Andor nothing is great.
@@s_kavanCome on bro, if you're a true star wars fan then you wouldn't stand for any of this garbage Disney is pumping out. It's very upsetting man.
Are u sure about that 👀
Thank god you put that Arcane comparison at the end. I had to stop watching at that point in the video. Arcane is overhyped and your comparison doesn’t really add to your argument for people who haven’t seen it.
Good video overall.
Arcane is overhyped???
I am dumber from having watched your channel
I am dumber from having read your comment
I agree with most of your points. But after watching Episode 6 (I started at 4), I have a hard time taking Star Wars seriously. The narrative's foundational elements unravel under even modest scrutiny. Take, for example, the dualistic underpinning of its world-building-dark versus light. This framework seems reductive, especially when contrasted with the complexities of reality, where moral absolutes are rare and "badness" often stems from psychological imbalances or excesses. My aim isn't to critique, but rather to understand the impetus behind expecting anything serious from the franchise.
The OG series does not depict light vs dark as some all or nothing affair. It does, basically, the exact opposite. Outside of Palpatine. Darkness is rather bluntly described as negative emotions and actions. Succumb to them and you are likely to continue succumbing to them. It's a behavioral metaphor, not a good vs bad metaphor.
I clicked this video because I like the agree with what you say but I can't get over when you were rambling about the droid saying "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away."
The story starts in another galaxy and if you didn't figure that out, I don't care to hear anything else you have to say.
And I thought it was one of the tests of a youngling or padiwan to make their own lightsabre?
The show was just so bad and corny. Its like they used the same goofballs at the park for the show and it was acted out on film. So awful and just a pile of trash. This is must NOT SEE tv
I agree with everyting except the "long time ago in a galaxy far far away". He doesn't only now history he knows "STORIES" FICTION. Like that's really just dumb how that's not clear.. but anyways. Everything else checks out
Does anyone understand that thrawn is literally only concerned with his cargo and getting the heck off this planet? Everything else is inconsequential to him
By everything else you mean the people actively attempting to prevent him from leaving. Wouldn’t it make more sense to just kill them when you had the chance and leave. Hell, Ezra should be dead already, either dead or on Thrawn’s side.
@@konstantinosnikolakakis8125 first of all the show literally tells you that he wasn’t able to kill Ezra, And and the show tells you that Ezra couldn’t come close to him, so, thrawn just decided to leave it at a stalemate. Secondly, my point is he was unconcerned whether the protagonists survived or not, he just wanted to delay them long enough so he could get away. Also he didn’t care that two dark Jedi just fell into his lap, all he wants is to get away, every decision he has made was to further that goal.
I’ll admit that not killing Sabine when he could’ve was a bit weird, but baylan did promise her that she would see Ezra again. Also thrawn knew Vader and Vader only became Vader because of his emotional attachment, so he knows that if he kills Sabine, that might piss off ezra and Ahsoka enough to get them so enraged that they could just storm thrawn ship and kill him. That has a very low chance of happening but thrawn didn’t want to take the chance.
@@LegoJango586 Couldn't come close to him? Mate, Ezra was a day's giant dog ride away, and Thrawn has tie fighters. Just because a show tells us something happened doesn't mean it makes sense. The Last Jedi told us that Luke tried to murder Kylo Ren based on a premonition, but that doesn't mean it makes sense.
@@konstantinosnikolakakis8125 no Ezra himself said he wasn’t able to get near the tower, because of the witches or something
@@LegoJango586 Ahh, yes, the witches. If the witches can apparently find Jedi, then how come Thrawn hadn't killed Ezra ten years ago?