Daisy & William | The Love Story | Downton Abbey
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- A story of love and heart-break from one of our favourite Downton romances.
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I think she really did love him. She was just super young and overwhelmed. William was the sweetest boy. Every time they mention him on the show I get teary.
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I loved poor William as well.. I really wish he lived.
She didn’t love him, she felt sorry for him. Obviously she cared enough about him as a human being to do that, but that doesn’t mean she loved him. She hardly knew the guy
I think a clue she did was she and Mary both had a similar reaction when Matthew and William got injured.
@@headphonic8 She did love him . Her actions after his death and her thoughts give it away.
I hate that she fell for a guy like Andy
It was amazing how hard the Dowager worked to bring William home, and then she sat in attendance at their wedding.
She's a romantic at heart always
She said to Mary: she believes in love lol
Don't forget the dowager also talk to the priest for them to be wed
She comforted Daisy when Daisy broke down after Williams death . She found her crying and didn't judge her .
That part made my heart so warm. She cried like a baby at “the helps” wedding. The Dowager was a real lady 🥹
Even though Daisy did not love William as much as he did her , at least she along with Mrs Patmore's help, she respected William's feelings. This opened the door for a wonderful father daughter relationship with William 's dad. Also kudos to William for looking out for Daisy's long-term care by setting her up to be a pensioned military widow.
No she did love William she just didn’t know it. Her worry for him and the joy she felt when she saw him and the worry she felt when he was hurt, plus the sadness she felt like she was dying. She did not know what love was, but she definitely felt something for him. The dowager helped her see that she did love him but did not realize it.
Daisy didn’t love him when he was alive, but she fell in love after he was gone. She looked actually happy (I’d shocked) when we asked for them to be dating but the war rushed everything along. If they had been able to take their time chances are they would have been happy.
She did love him but she was so young THat she didn’t really know it. I think after he died Violet helped her see that she did love him very much.
William's dad and Daisy's relationship was so sweet as well
She found a father in Mr. Mason, and a mother in Mrs. Patmore.
Yeah, he missed and grieved his son but I'm sure loving a daughter helped him greatly. Maybe she will love another good man and maybe knowing William will help her find that.
Anytime I see the scene when he talks about "having someone to pray for," I tear up so bad. One of the sweetest characters ever.
Even tho he was elderly,dad wasn't ready to let go of his son.Dont get me wrong it worked out well.He grew to love Daisy and they made a family,but i think it all started for him was so he wouldn't have to let go of William.
And yes he was the sweetest kid.Wouldnt even fight Jimmy when Jimmy flirted with her.
@@nina1522 exactly.
I promised myself I wouldn't cry; but the fact that he cared for her enough to want her to be cared for even if he wasn't going to be with her, after he was gone... 😭 😭 😭
I think this goes to show people married for all sorts of reasons, and loved one another in different ways. It wasn’t fairytales and passion but I can’t think of a more loving thing than they gave one another. He made sure she was always to be taken care of, and she gained a father and was as loved by her husband as any woman could be. She gave him the kindness and dignity of love in her own way. They were both the better for it.
The wedding scene always makes me cry. It’s beautiful and heartbreaking at the same time. Poor William. He died a hero and wanted his wife to have a better chance in life. He loved Daisy until the end.
Even though it wasn't true love, I'm glad William got to be happy and have peace before he died. Dying with a broken heart would be absolutely horrendous.
@DialZForZero yes , you are right - she just has been super young - so Mrs. Patmore helped her to find the right decision to marry William ... and William was able to give her two last gifts : a father in the person of his father and a little bit of money , she later took this for her education ...
I do think that she ultimately made a very brave decision. In the end, she put William's feelings above her own to make him happy. And really, isn't that what love is all about?
I find it interesting that majority thinks Daisy did right, and that the happiness and peace is more important than being honest. Personaly I would be devasteted if I knew someone lied to me in such important thing as love just to give me peace before death. And so I wouldn't be able to do this either. It just doesn't feel right. And the way people pressure Daisy to do it makes me uncomfortable.
@@pativi6643 That’s the thing, you wouldn’t know that it wasn’t real because you’d be dead.
I think it was true love. It wasn’t until after he was gone that Violet helped her realize that she was not at all “unloving” towards him, as Violet put it.
The one who, as usual, clarifies things and puts disputes to rest is the Dowager. When Daisy has doubts about her actions, the Dowager tells her straightforwardly: "So you married him to keep his spirits up at the end. Forgive me, but that doesn't sound un-loving. To me it sounds as if you loved him a great deal." I think that settles it. After that conversation, Daisy started to make peace with herself and to actually accept that she had been William's wife, that she had rights as a war widow and that she also had a father-in-law who cared about her.
Daisy does love William she just doesn't know how to accept it. Being a young girl she is scared of what she feels.
The best, most enduring marriages start out as friendship. I hear it from the most successful couples "I married my best friend "! Friendship love is still real, so she did truly love William. And, I believe he knew she wasn't head over hills in love with him but he still wanted to provide for her with his pension. He also gave his father a daughter to share life with. William was such a wise, kind soul...
I think they were just both too young. War came along and every young man was “called” (coerced and manipulated) to do his duty. If they’d had time to actually be young teenagers and have little arguments and let a romance blossom, they’d have been as happy as anyone. I even think they were soulmates in a way (as we see when William and Matthew are injured and how both Daisy and Mary feel it). But I think this sort of scenario must have happened a lot back then. Teenagers pushed into war, marriage, and widowhood well before they were ready
I still think they coerced Daisy into getting along just because he was dying and they knew he loved her, and she liked him as a human being and a friend but not sure as a lover. I was so pissed when they kept her telling what to do but was really impressed how Daisy handled it, without hurting William or his father. I really loved their arc.
@@ericbana191 Remember the times. Mariages were still arranged. Daisy did not have family to look out after her. Her below stairs family were loking out for her well being as they saw it. If William had survived it would have been a fine match. He was a kind gentle soul. She would have gotten over her girlish crushes, and would come to recognize she was saved from her own bad judgement.
Mrs. Patmore acts like a mother here ... she wants Daisy to marry and be happy at first - and later she just wants William happy - happily going into death ... so bittersweet ... 😢💝 And Lady Violet has got a cold ... how wonderful kind hearted she is - like everyone in this scene ...🌹 And months later Daisy realises : she has got a real father - her father in law is the last gift William gave to her ... bittersweet again ... 💝
I love how Mr. Mason made her his daughter.
second saddest moment of the show . william was (still his ) one of my favorite character, and i cry every time i saw this scene . he was truly a hero
I think they have one of the sweetest saddest stories in this show.
Daisy was a genuinely good person
I only started liking her at the end. X
Ah man I did not need to cry on a Sunday morning like that but here we are
Daisy loved him, but not in the way he loved her. Mrs Patmore was seeing all the young men who died in the war in William, and felt very strongly that they should do what they needed to for him before he died, but she was wrong in pressuring Daisy all along, and putting her in such a terrible position. Not all love is romantic love, and Daisy should never have been pressured to marry William. If she did it of her own accord, then great, but that's not what happened.
I think the engagement pressure early on from Mrs Patmore was wayyyyyy over the top. I would agree with her pushing them a little towards each other but she was going way to far putting daisy in a position like that. That was wrong but the marriage in the end may have been the right thing. They all knew William was dying, so Daisy wasn't committing herself to a life she didn't want, she just eased a cherished friends death. And she might have been too young to understand how much this meant to William. If they hadn't married I could see her regretting not marrying him once she got older.
I agree. However, William wasn't stupid and knew Daisy's life would be a rough and long road without many benefits--especially for a girl with little to education. He couldn't give her his knowledge, so he gave her the means. She would have a little pocket change and be one step up on the societal ladder. She wouldn't be a spinster, so door's would be open to her. Also, though I'm not sure, it gets her foot in the door to inherit William's family's land.
William left her more riches than Daisy could ever be aware of: money, a title, land, and a father. She was luckier than most girls her age. In the end, Daisy was truly loved.
@@katemaloney4296 She ended up with more than she had, definitely. I'm not sure that a title and land is part of that though--if I remember correctly, William's father was a tenant pig farmer. She might inherit the tenancy, but won't own anything. I may be wrong though, I haven't seen it in a while. :)
Daisy and William were so perfect for each other. They’re basically the female and male version of the same person.
It always broke my heart a little when Daisy was too foolish to see how they would’ve been a great couple.
she wasn't foolish she just didn't love the guy that way.
You can be friends without wanting to marry someone.
I think she was too young. She didn't know what she wanted and was confused.
@@JusttheGayBits She did . She was neglected as a child however and damaged
Hun Daisy’s feelings were VALID she didn’t love him and she wasn’t foolish. Mrs Patmore forced her to date him and marry him when she didn’t want to
William and Daisy are the sweetest characters. I love all their scenes.
William was a very well written charcter.
He really was. I think he could see Daisy’s hesitance and confusion about her feelings. He was aware of her doubts. But unlike her, he was certain enough of himself and of his feelings to know they did have a real connection, and spent his last hours ensuring that she’d be looked after and would have benefits as his widow. He married her for HER benefit, not for his.
What a brilliant bunch of actors. William dying so young was totally heartbreaking. The wedding was so sad. X
I was ok until Carson offered her his arm, like a father walking her down the aisle.
Honestly put aside Daisy like William romantically or not she looked the happiest when they had this beautiful friendship
From the first episode it was obvious that he was madly in love with Daysi. He had a heart of gold just like Lady Sybill.
Why do I keep coming back for more? I always end up tearing up with a knot in my throat.
Me too! I have a knot in my throat... and the music is so beautiful but so sad at the same time... 😭
no matter how many times i have seen it this still makes me cry
after Sybil's death this is probably the saddest scene in the series
Lawrence C Completely agree!
Hahah you clearly haven't reached the end of season 3
@Amber maybe I just had a soft spot for Daisy. I loved her character and she did something selfless even though she struggled with it.
He was a good man, William was.
I love that violet and Edith was there however sad.
I think I love Daisy the most
It's funny that daisy is my name too
William!! 😭😭😭😭
Just brakes my heart!! 💔💔💔
aww...
they had a good love story... it was so sad to see william die...
i wish it worked out though. if the war didn’t happen and they had a chance to strengthen their relationship, i think they would’ve made it through.
He was so sweet. So very sweet.
Daisy never wanted to marry William, she only did it because of the pressure. Maybe she did love him but she wasn’t really ready.
PS: Wouldn't it be brilliant if O' Brien came back for the film? She was truly vile but her sarcastic one liners were brilliant. 🤣
Fiona Midgley but alas she did not
7:47 the Countess crying. So cute!
Nobody can convince me that she didn’t love him back. She was innocent and confused. He probably didn’t fit the idea she built up in her head of “the perfect man,” so she didn’t realize what she had until he was gone. She sensed something was happening when he was about to be hit by that bomb…”someone walked over my grave”…that’s a sure sign they were soulmates. And he really became her guardian Angel. All of the progress she made in the later seasons was made possible by him, and what he left her with.
Poor William 😢😭
I know the actress doesnt think Daisy loved William, but I think everyone was right. You dont agree to marry a man and get that icey feeling when someone you love gets hurt. She loved him but I think she didnt know what she felt nor did she have the time to process what all was happening. She agrees to marry him when hes about to leave and then when William really needed Daisy, she marries him. That is love. Even if she didnt love him in the same way, that is love. She did him the great kindness and loved him in the only way she knew.
William's death is def in the top 3 of the saddest things in the show
It would be so lovely to give Daisy her own spin-off (TH-cam?) show, making recipes that would have been made at Downton Abbey 🍰. It would be a huge success. Please, like if you agree.
Lovely idea!
yes great idea ,there is a few really good british shows on making food in that , time ,
I call BS that she didn't at least have a crush on him. If you fast forward said BS, they have a lovely and cute love story.
This broke my heart
*”wiLLiaM I’ve kISSeD yOu!”*
The expression she makes cracks me up 😂
Yes, I have tears. I very seldom cry, but I did this time.
Oh! Such talent - that created this. All around, talent. Thank you.
God i remember watching this show in highschool, i always had a huge crush on William, he was so sweet and i heavily shipped him and daisy. It was so heartbreaking when he died, i would've loved to see him and Daisy's romance grow
William's one of my favorite. But I commend Daisy to speak up and be actually honest about her feelings and thinking it's wrong what they did, marry them. She wanted to be honest with him. Anyway, but I also kinda agree with Ms Patmore that it's nothing wrong to lie to a dying man if he dies happy and thankfully Daisy went along and didn't make a fuss. I was hoping Daisy will explode for once and all, but she was quite surprisingly maturw. I love this arc really very much, very complex and watchable. I stopped after season 3 BTW.
william was a real OG
Thomas being a decent human being when being a nurse plz!!!
Do Sybil and Branson love story
The dowager: I have a cold 🥶 hahahah
They would have had the cutest babies!
Second comment!!! Daisy and William are so cute together 💖💕💗rip William
You mean William
Whoops😳
He's so tol and she's so smol!
THEY DESERVED TO BE HAPPY AHHHHHHH
Even the dowager had to wipe her eyes. 😁
why do the best people always leave us?
I always found it creepy how Daisy was pressured to marry someone she didn't love.
It is but it's also a different time. I wonder how arranged marriage was viewed by the non aristocratic people at the time. But she also did love him. Not as a lover but as a friend.
She did love him . However because of her background she didn't know what love was .
Its sad really .
I'm glad I'm not alone! I find it interesting that majority thinks Daisy did right, and that the happiness and peace is more important than being honest. Personaly I would be devasteted if I knew someone lied to me in such important thing as love just to give me peace before death. And so I wouldn't be able to do this either. It just doesn't feel right. And the way people pressure Daisy to do it makes me uncomfortable.
I agree.
Well he was about to die hours later so it’s not as if she’d be stuck living a loveless life with him. She was guaranteed benefits as his widow. And ended up gaining so much more than what she had before, because of her widow status.
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Anyone know the song playing during the marriage/death scene? It's such a lovely sad song
0:53 when I tell u I SQUEALED-
I loved William. So sad they killed him off! 😢😢😢
Even the crusty Mrs. O'Brien and Mr. Carson were weepy eyed.I loved this show.There isn't a one I didn't like.
What a bunch of bullies.
William was too good for Daisy. By a long shot.
My heart broke when i realised it wasn’t a wedding… It was a funeral.
Daisy didn’t love William and William had no idea. That’s tragic.
SanFranGirl1982 I think Daisy did love William. Granted she didn't realise it until much later, or in the way he loved her, but she did love him. It is tragic
no, she didn't love him. what's tragic is that she was forced to marry him just before his death@@laurenbocutt7480
I have an idea he knew, but he insisted on marrying her so she could have the pension and benefits as his widow.
I think it's Daisy who had no idea. She just wasn't ready, wasn't mature enough.
I think daisy did love william. Why would she kiss him in the beginning of the story, if she didn't love him?
I love them, I love their love....but surely (correct me if I’m wrong) the marriage wouldn’t be legal if it couldn’t be consummated??? So she wouldn’t get all of those benefits???
No. Failure to consummate could be part of reasoning for a divorce, but one could be legally married (just like Matthew would have been even if he had been impotent).
I think maybe that was a reason the vicar was at first reluctant to marry them. (Though I'm not sure I remember it right.)
How would you legally prove a marriage wasn't consumated? That's kind of a weird law to have. I mean...in this case, it's provable, but surely that's unusual.
@@harringt100 it's not provable because that's not how female genitalia works, watch a Mama Doctor Jones video on it she says there is no "virginity testing" because stuff happens just living life riding horses,exercising, etc.
Sexless marriages where common
Daisy looks like Toby McGuire in the thumbnail.
William! Gone too soon!!!
Sad 🙏
Them forcing her to marry him never sat right with me
"The love story"? No; the story of unrequited love. Daisy married him out pity; the writing and performances were entirely clear about that.
She did love him. Their romance was rushed and she had never been loved before so had no idea what it was .
@@hannahdyson7129 I didn't get the feeling she loved him
She realized after he was gone that she did love him. Violet could see it and told her so. And Violet is never wrong. :)
Engaged?? She was just a little girl and they barely knew each other.
I know this is just fiction, but william was a good man
Is that the guy who played Roger Taylor?
Think daisy really liked William 👍 ☺️ but she couldn't admit it in the beginning
ok
Wouldn't that marriage be unconsummated and thus annueled?
😳 💜
Daisy may be the most contrarian love interest I've ever seen. Always out of sync and conflicted. I believe she loved him, but resisted the push.
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Looked more like a funeral than a wedding. Wear they wearing funeral clothes so that they wouldn't have to change again after the wedding? lol
One down, two to go lol
I love that Mr. Carson “walked” her down the aisle and gave her away, so so sweet!!
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Absolutely unfair to Daisy.
And what if he'd made a miraculous recovery? Noooo!
Well he didnt he died happy
it was pretty obvious at the end he wasnt going to survive. hence why it was important for him to die happy and at peace
@@Rustyshackleford1544 😂 Would you risk it though?
I could see Daisy growing to love him.
@@unaninanine3743 given what had happened to him, there was no chance he was going to survive. IIRC his lungs had been damaged by mustard gas, and at that time there was no treatment for it -- it was actually a super shitty way to die, because you essentially drowned from the fluid that formed in your lungs.
calling it a love story is a bit of a stretch.
I think Daisy loved William platonically at first. Later on, she grew to love him more.
Daisy was the only character I didn't like in Downton, ALWAYS negative, ALWAYS unhappy. Just a depressing character to watch.
🙄imagine being an orphan who's never felt love .
No wonder she wasn't happy
Why do they call it a love story? Daisy never loved this guy. It's funny how it's all the women in the comments saying Daisy really loved him. There is no evidence of this. "I think" is not evidence. Chics are so biased it is unreal.
Us " chics " might have an insight into how a women's mind might work .
@@hannahdyson7129 Its called being delusional and trying to romanticize things. The character as written and performed was acting out of a sense of obligation and not love.