I try not to ever cut my grass when it’s wet and I clean under my deck after each use. I’ve had my time master for two years and haven’t had any issues yet. You treat your equipment good and it will take care of you.
I have 2 time master and mow an average of 90 lawns a week around 2,500 a season. This machine is amazing. Yes clogging, tall grass and rain are a problem but it will get it done. My 2 mowers have now started season 2 and already have 220 lawns for the season. Keep mowing.
great video I am having problem getting the rear wheels off my toro time master I have removed the wheel nut but still can't remove the wheel ant Ideals.
I have had the SAME issue on my 2016 Toro 30 in TimeMaster. It NEVER starts hot. There was a recall to change the crummy paper fuel filter, but i solved that design flaw, where the fuel feed is only 1/2 in drop from the tank outlet to Briggs 120000 series engine carb. I lashed on my Honda GCV190 Tank and a nice long hose, with a Disc filter and Shutoff valve from Home Depot. The Briggs recall is to install a metal HEAT SHIELD between the cyl head and float bowl, to fix hot restarting. I often do better than that, just get some silver foil faced R-MAX foam insulation, maybe cut 3x5in,, smash a recess to fit behind the float bowl with a small hammer, and shove it in place above the black plastic belt guard cover. surfaces, that worked for a few years,then needed to cool things down with Starting fluid or Gumout to restart hot. I then replaced the carbs several times with the inexpensive ones on Amazon. Worked a little better than Briggs OEM. FINALLY, I did replace the Magneto coil and shutoff switch, but yesterday PROVED THE NEW ONE IS INTERMITTENT. Got an adjustable Spark Tester, set for 10KV gap or larger - NO OUTPUT!!!!!!!!!!! Then I took the old one, sanded the pole pieces and TAPED the entire HV lead with 3M Electrical tape, and split the plastic insulator sleeve from my new Spark Tester, covering the CHAFED section where the muffler heatshield abradedi it. BINGO, it finally started! I then checked the Compression cold, but forgot to open the throttle plate - it read almost 30lbs. We also replaced the crummy HEAD GASKET again, with the 2nd gasket in the $42 Amazon kit, which HAS A NICE METAL fire ring, but is for the 223CC Upgraded engine all the Yard Service guys pay $500 new, to finally fix the underpowered temperamental 190. I found the old gasket BLEW OUT near the Exhaust side, a second time, vapor from all my Starting Fluid was coming out. Another telltale sign was the 4 head bolts were NOT TIGHT. I should have retourqued to the 125 in-lbs spec AGAIN after a month. Since 70lbs seems to be the spec for these 190CC motors, I WILL be buying a new Piston, Rings, and Wrist pin set, and the 2 different length Rod bolts to raise the crummy 30lbs that is causing stalling issues. And my friend set the VALVE clearances ay 0.006in, AFTER INSTALLING THE NEW thicker gasket. It starts if I put the choke rod in, but soon I fave to remove it, and flip the choke spring 180 degrees over, to the main governor spring post, r it will bog down too rich! When I get anther $500 saved up, I am going to Toro Menders in ATL to buy a replacement 223CC engine, and a new DECK for another $100. Final note, there is a Hi Lift Blade kit, including a new front V shaped shield that bolts in with the front wheels assy - critically IMPORTANT, IT USED TO just fill the chute with grass. ------------- for the past 8 years it will FILL the bag with even wet grass- My thoughts, nothing else is safe on my sloped back yard, and at 150lbs for me, I can easily handle this 135lb mower. Just skip the $200 more Electric Start option, because it will be clunkier to use there. Just my thoughts after 8 years of Time Master troubles. And I replaced many broken cables, worn bearings, and belts Fyi, Hilary in GA
I agree 100% , but mine shuts of well. I have found that the fuel tank is way to small, and if the front wheels would pivot, would make easier work of mowing. The clogging up is a real hassle, if you lift the deck and mow it high this will help this.
I’ve owned a couple of toro time masters and fact that the grass sticks to the bottom of the deck is my biggest complaint also. The. other issue I’ve also had is with the nubs on the wheel adjusters wearing out and the deck height doesn’t stay level.
Clean the bottom of the deck really really good. I mean scrap it,brush it clean remove all debris. Then repaint it in gloss finish. When dry spray it with cooking spray oil. Do the same with a snow blower.
Cutting Grass 101: 1) Don't mow wet grass. 2) If mowing tall and thick grass adjust deck height accordingly to where the mower doesn't bog down and/or slow down the cutting speed (walking). This is a great mower but you have to know some basic physics and read the operators manual before use. Don't allow your ego to allow you to falsely believe you know how to operate the mower (or any implement/product). Most ALL negative reviews of nearly any product are operator error. Fact!
I use mine commercially and for side discharge only so i get the grinder out and cut the side discharge to twice the size. Always wear safety glasses when using the mower after doing this as some debris will fly backwards and get ya.
Had to re-solder the wire on my kill switch. Set the deck to the height the mower doesn't bog at and not the height I want the grass at, or disengage the blades, tilt the mower, re-engage the blades to clear the built up grass under the deck every row, but then I have little piles to go rake up. Got a new set of blades on order as mine are hideous. Hope this helps reduce the build-up under the deck.
I don't know what he's mowing but I've never had that happen with mine... I don't care what type of mower you have any time your mulching it's going to stick inside the bell that's why you scrape every day... That's just regular maintenance...
Your learning. The next issue is the back wheel adjust will ware out it will fall hits a bump. The belts break a lot cables break a lot. I started in 2016 on my 3 rd one . All same issue. For me it's a good trim mower for nice lawns. . I have one now as a back up. .
I just bought this mower new last month and so far I am NOT happy. I paid $1500 for it, it takes many pulls to start it, it clumps in heavy grass when mulching and has even run out of gas on me on my small yard (8,200 sq. ft.). I'm on TH-cam looking for answers!
You just described mine. lol Get ready to change your blade belts around every 150 hours and remember to set your belt tensioner every 50 hours. Thanks
Over 2500 cuts with my 2 timemasters going into season 2 haven't done a thing but add gas. No air filter oil change belt change or even spark plug. They still start on 1st or 2nd pull and mow like the day I got them. I do sharpen the blades though.
I weed whack the grass down if it’s over 5 inches when I use my toro I never use it in wet grass I’ll pull the Honda out! But I mostly use my toro on dry grass pretty much 4 inches and under is the sweet spot for these mowers!
I have 10 hours on mine and my neighbor has one that is a few years old. Both have a slight misfire with no load, regardless of engine temperature. Does yours do that as well?
@@jacobgroezinger1606 - Yup. Mine also has a slight stumble/surge under zero load. Not too surprising - Briggs was the company that thought plastic carbs would be a great idea. In reality, it runs fine under load, and that's what I care about. I console myself by remembering all those hopped-up muscle cars from the seventies with high-lift cams that barely idled.
I’ve had mine two years. Piece of shit. If that grass is even remotely damp or thick you’ll be cleaning out the grass from the deck multiple times per mow. I have a little under a half acre and it constantly clogs.
I have one for my semi commercial landscaping business and it’s cuts and mulches thick, tall grass with no problem. No real slow down in engine speed as long as you walk slower. Only really gums up with stuff if grass is very wet and deck only needs to be cleaned out 2-3 times a week. Thing is a champ in most aspects but it’s gas tank is tiny (only like 45 minutes of runtime) and it struggles to move itself on hills. I can run it over 6 inches of hedge clippings and with two passes you couldnt tell that there was a pile of leaves/stems.
It appears I am the only one with my Toro 30 inch Timemaster that wont start. I adjusted the cable because all of a sudden the blades disengaged, after adjustment I was able to finish the half acre yard. Now I wanted to cut it again and after 10-12 pulls it just did not start, so I decided to see is somebody had the same problem and how they fix it. No, mine is not electric. Thanks.
Take the air filter housing off and make sure the auto choke is working. The carb flap should be closed when it’s cold. Spray some carb spray in and see if it cranks up.
I make an effort to use the washout plug every time after use. It takes 5 min but keeps 95% of the buildup washed away. Lower the deck as low as it will go.. attach hose.. run with blades on for 3-5 min. The green glop goo just ooozes out. Once a year I’ll pressure wash the underside and coat with rustoleum. For a $1200 mower I intend for it to last 15 years.
I’ve owned this mower for a year and it’s been constant issues first problem the blade in gauge cable broke replaced I was charged $80 2 weeks later I was mowing didn’t hit anything all of a sudden I hear a loud noise under the deck the engine sounded like it was going to blow up I turned it off immediately turn it over the side the 2 blades were hitting each other they got destroyed bent I ordered new blades when I was going to install them and put them back in time took off the top cover the inlet pulley completely destroyed now back to the dealership hopefully Toro fixes it with warranty and I’m selling it right away nothing like my Honda HRX217 that mower is over 6 years old thank God I never sold it cause she is back in our fleet.
Anyone have a problem with the belt that spins the blades? I had 1.5 hours on mine and the blades stopped spinning. Brand new belt was fraying. Replaced the belt and having the same problem.
@@MJorgy5 I agree with you. I have owned a TimeMaster since 2018. Best 30" mower in my opinion. However, Put it on a crew trailer and the workers will tear it up. When using it in a commercial application, one needs common sense and realize its a homeowner grade machine and treat it accordingly.
I bought a 450 dollar Honda mower and it only lasted two year no power transmission always messed up I hated that thing but maybe I bought a lemon 😂 but I always hear good thing about Honda but I love Briggs engines there really good have a good day
Well that sounds good, if Honda had a 30-in mower... which they don't. And if you don't care about having to constantly replace the transmission axle shaft bushings on the hrn, hrr and hrx mowers, which if you don't replace quickly enough, can wear the transmission axle shafts so you get to buy a new transmission. And I don't know what the tire treads on the Honda's are made out of, but I go through a set of those faster than my kid wears out the tires on their Mattel toy cars. Then there's the cheesy height adjustment levers which just have a little stamped out sheet metal tab that eventually ends up rounding off so your wheels pop out of their height setting if you hit a bump. Fortunately your other three adjustment levers will probably still hold their height. Yeah that's right - you have to adjust each wheel individually. Which is a pain when you're going from one yard to another yard and setting the height for each one. Honda makes a pretty good mower engine. But as far as their mowers go, I think they stopped engineering at the engine. Honestly, I think the only people that are impressed with Honda mowers are the ones that previously had an MTD mower or some other piece of junk.
@@brickgoon - And the Ferris is not made by Honda. You can tell because it's a better mower. As I said in my post, I don't have a problem with Honda engines, I just don't think much of their mowers. The irony here is that Ferris is owned by Briggs & Stratton. I don't think much of Briggs & Stratton engines. Apparently neither does Briggs & Stratton... that's why they put a Honda on it.
I try not to ever cut my grass when it’s wet and I clean under my deck after each use. I’ve had my time master for two years and haven’t had any issues yet. You treat your equipment good and it will take care of you.
I have 2 time master and mow an average of 90 lawns a week around 2,500 a season. This machine is amazing. Yes clogging, tall grass and rain are a problem but it will get it done. My 2 mowers have now started season 2 and already have 220 lawns for the season.
Keep mowing.
You may want to upgrade the syncro belt idlers to the Heavy Duty offerings. The older machines would fail often
great video I am having problem getting the rear wheels off my toro time master I have removed the wheel nut but still can't remove the wheel ant Ideals.
I have had the SAME issue on my 2016 Toro 30 in TimeMaster. It NEVER starts hot. There was a recall to change the crummy paper fuel filter, but i solved that design flaw, where the fuel feed is only 1/2 in drop from the tank outlet to Briggs 120000 series engine carb. I lashed on my Honda GCV190 Tank and a nice long hose, with a Disc filter and Shutoff valve from Home Depot. The Briggs recall is to install a metal HEAT SHIELD between the cyl head and float bowl, to fix hot restarting. I often do better than that, just get some silver foil faced R-MAX foam insulation, maybe cut 3x5in,, smash a recess to fit behind the float bowl with a small hammer, and shove it in place above the black plastic belt guard cover. surfaces, that worked for a few years,then needed to cool things down with Starting fluid or Gumout to restart hot. I then replaced the carbs several times with the inexpensive ones on Amazon. Worked a little better than Briggs OEM. FINALLY, I did replace the Magneto coil and shutoff switch, but yesterday PROVED THE NEW ONE IS INTERMITTENT. Got an adjustable Spark Tester, set for 10KV gap or larger - NO OUTPUT!!!!!!!!!!! Then I took the old one, sanded the pole pieces and TAPED the entire HV lead with 3M Electrical tape, and split the plastic insulator sleeve from my new Spark Tester, covering the CHAFED section where the muffler heatshield abradedi it. BINGO, it finally started! I then checked the Compression cold, but forgot to open the throttle plate - it read almost 30lbs. We also replaced the crummy HEAD GASKET again, with the 2nd gasket in the $42 Amazon kit, which HAS A NICE METAL fire ring, but is for the 223CC Upgraded engine all the Yard Service guys pay $500 new, to finally fix the underpowered temperamental 190. I found the old gasket BLEW OUT near the Exhaust side, a second time, vapor from all my Starting Fluid was coming out. Another telltale sign was the 4 head bolts were NOT TIGHT. I should have retourqued to the 125 in-lbs spec AGAIN after a month.
Since 70lbs seems to be the spec for these 190CC motors, I WILL be buying a new Piston, Rings, and Wrist pin set, and the 2 different length Rod bolts to raise the crummy 30lbs that is causing stalling issues. And my friend set the VALVE clearances ay 0.006in, AFTER INSTALLING THE NEW thicker gasket. It starts if I put the choke rod in, but soon I fave to remove it, and flip the choke spring 180 degrees over, to the main governor spring post, r it will bog down too rich! When I get anther $500 saved up, I am going to Toro Menders in ATL to buy a replacement 223CC engine, and a new DECK for another $100. Final note, there is a Hi Lift Blade kit, including a new front V shaped shield that bolts in with the front wheels assy - critically IMPORTANT, IT USED TO just fill the chute with grass. ------------- for the past 8 years it will FILL the bag with even wet grass- My thoughts, nothing else is safe on my sloped back yard, and at 150lbs for me, I can easily handle this 135lb mower. Just skip the $200 more Electric Start option, because it will be clunkier to use there. Just my thoughts after 8 years of Time Master troubles. And I replaced many broken cables, worn bearings, and belts Fyi, Hilary in GA
I agree 100% , but mine shuts of well. I have found that the fuel tank is way to small, and if the front wheels would pivot, would make easier work of mowing. The clogging up is a real hassle, if you lift the deck and mow it high this will help this.
I’ve owned a couple of toro time masters and fact that the grass sticks to the bottom of the deck is my biggest complaint also. The. other issue I’ve also had is with the nubs on the wheel adjusters wearing out and the deck height doesn’t stay level.
Clean the bottom of the deck really really good. I mean scrap it,brush it clean remove all debris. Then repaint it in gloss finish. When dry spray it with cooking spray oil. Do the same with a snow blower.
Added a fuel shutoff valve on mine. Never use the stop rocker switch and clears the carb of gas after each mow.
Cutting Grass 101: 1) Don't mow wet grass. 2) If mowing tall and thick grass adjust deck height accordingly to where the mower doesn't bog down and/or slow down the cutting speed (walking). This is a great mower but you have to know some basic physics and read the operators manual before use. Don't allow your ego to allow you to falsely believe you know how to operate the mower (or any implement/product). Most ALL negative reviews of nearly any product are operator error. Fact!
Thanks for the tips!
Put the side discharge flap back on and raise the deck up. Discharge the clippings out of the side and you'll solve most of your problem.
We do that sometimes but most of the time the grass is so thick that it clogs up the shoot.
I use mine commercially and for side discharge only so i get the grinder out and cut the side discharge to twice the size. Always wear safety glasses when using the mower after doing this as some debris will fly backwards and get ya.
To solve the deck problem use side discharge.... i also spray mine with ceramic wax so the grass doesn't stick
Imma try that thanks 🙏
Had to re-solder the wire on my kill switch. Set the deck to the height the mower doesn't bog at and not the height I want the grass at, or disengage the blades, tilt the mower, re-engage the blades to clear the built up grass under the deck every row, but then I have little piles to go rake up. Got a new set of blades on order as mine are hideous. Hope this helps reduce the build-up under the deck.
I don't know what he's mowing but I've never had that happen with mine... I don't care what type of mower you have any time your mulching it's going to stick inside the bell that's why you scrape every day... That's just regular maintenance...
Your learning. The next issue is the back wheel adjust will ware out it will fall hits a bump. The belts break a lot cables break a lot. I started in 2016 on my 3 rd one . All same issue. For me it's a good trim mower for nice lawns. . I have one now as a back up. .
We got this one in 2019
Bed liner can of paint helps.
Wet grass will stick regardless what
Mower
I won't mulch when it's long or wet ,it's easier for me to just open the chute flap. when mowing in this environment.
I just bought this mower new last month and so far I am NOT happy. I paid $1500 for it, it takes many pulls to start it, it clumps in heavy grass when mulching and has even run out of gas on me on my small yard (8,200 sq. ft.). I'm on TH-cam looking for answers!
Great video the movie clips are weird. But your help videos are spot on
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You just described mine. lol Get ready to change your blade belts around every 150 hours and remember to set your belt tensioner every 50 hours. Thanks
Thanks. I just sold that one and bought a new one. Go watch the unboxing video of our new TimeMaster.
So mine the blades just stop so do I buy blade belts
Over 2500 cuts with my 2 timemasters going into season 2 haven't done a thing but add gas. No air filter oil change belt change or even spark plug. They still start on 1st or 2nd pull and mow like the day I got them. I do sharpen the blades though.
I also noticed your blades are out of time, watch Taryl fixes all he shows how to time one.
There's your dinner!
Any lawnmower will clog when grass is wet
I weed whack the grass down if it’s over 5 inches when I use my toro I never use it in wet grass I’ll pull the Honda out! But I mostly use my toro on dry grass pretty much 4 inches and under is the sweet spot for these mowers!
Great review
I have 10 hours on mine and my neighbor has one that is a few years old. Both have a slight misfire with no load, regardless of engine temperature. Does yours do that as well?
Yes. We also bought a brand new one it also has a ticking problem and a misfire.
@@KBLC19 Mine doesn't tick, its just a little rough with no load with the occasional misfire. Runs real strong under load and sounds much better.
@@jacobgroezinger1606 - Yup. Mine also has a slight stumble/surge under zero load. Not too surprising - Briggs was the company that thought plastic carbs would be a great idea.
In reality, it runs fine under load, and that's what I care about. I console myself by remembering all those hopped-up muscle cars from the seventies with high-lift cams that barely idled.
My carburetor is bad, when it warms up it starts surging really bad!
I’ve had mine two years. Piece of shit. If that grass is even remotely damp or thick you’ll be cleaning out the grass from the deck multiple times per mow. I have a little under a half acre and it constantly clogs.
I have one for my semi commercial landscaping business and it’s cuts and mulches thick, tall grass with no problem. No real slow down in engine speed as long as you walk slower. Only really gums up with stuff if grass is very wet and deck only needs to be cleaned out 2-3 times a week. Thing is a champ in most aspects but it’s gas tank is tiny (only like 45 minutes of runtime) and it struggles to move itself on hills. I can run it over 6 inches of hedge clippings and with two passes you couldnt tell that there was a pile of leaves/stems.
Clog master, my John Deere 21 inch and Craftsman, does 100 percent better
It appears I am the only one with my Toro 30 inch Timemaster that wont start. I adjusted the cable because all of a sudden the blades disengaged, after adjustment I was able to finish the half acre yard. Now I wanted to cut it again and after 10-12 pulls it just did not start, so I decided to see is somebody had the same problem and how they fix it. No, mine is not electric. Thanks.
Take the air filter housing off and make sure the auto choke is working. The carb flap should be closed when it’s cold. Spray some carb spray in and see if it cranks up.
@@andyhamilton8940 Thank you!!
What type of grass are you cutting, how low are you cutting and how often you cut? It’s probably not the mower, just the way you’re using it.
I cut all my yards at 3 3/4”. The lawn is sometimes 4.25” tall
The starter making noise is the only other problem i had
I make an effort to use the washout plug every time after use.
It takes 5 min but keeps 95% of the buildup washed away.
Lower the deck as low as it will go.. attach hose.. run with blades on for 3-5 min.
The green glop goo just ooozes out.
Once a year I’ll pressure wash the underside and coat with rustoleum.
For a $1200 mower I intend for it to last 15 years.
Same issue with the kill switch -- I took it apart and firmly affixed the wires -- problem solved.
Are you able to replace the muffler?
I’ve owned this mower for a year and it’s been constant issues first problem the blade in gauge cable broke replaced I was charged $80 2 weeks later I was mowing didn’t hit anything all of a sudden I hear a loud noise under the deck the engine sounded like it was going to blow up I turned it off immediately turn it over the side the 2 blades were hitting each other they got destroyed bent I ordered new blades when I was going to install them and put them back in time took off the top cover the inlet pulley completely destroyed now back to the dealership hopefully Toro fixes it with warranty and I’m selling it right away nothing like my Honda HRX217 that mower is over 6 years old thank God I never sold it cause she is back in our fleet.
How small is the gas tank
Hello sir, what setting do you recommend for scalping?
Commanche or Navajo.
I use the “S” setting.
Don’t mow wet grass. Period.
not a bad mower...engine is shit. If you are using it daily for lawn care you will end up doing a re-power at some point....I did the Kohler CV200
Bruhh. POST A VIDEO. Love to see how you did it!
Just walk slower thru heavier wet grass. Give it a chance to do its job.
Anyone have a problem with the belt that spins the blades? I had 1.5 hours on mine and the blades stopped spinning. Brand new belt was fraying. Replaced the belt and having the same problem.
Make sure the engine bolts are tight to the frame and that the belt pulleys are in a straight line to each other.
Nearly all these issues can be prevented and avoided if you had common sense, ofc the deck paint will come off, that happens with every deck
I will "never" buy a toro time master again.
Headache
My Time Master lasted one season. It was well maintained and kept indoors. I will never buy Toro again.
They come with a 3 year warranty. Did you not put a claim in?
No warranty?
What went wrong? Mine has been fantastic.
I felt asleep before the min1 of the video lol sorry
The biggest issue is that your using a dyi'r mower in commercial application
And yet, it has a more powerful engine and the same deck and blade design compared to the Turfmaster?
@@MJorgy5 I agree with you. I have owned a TimeMaster since 2018. Best 30" mower in my opinion. However, Put it on a crew trailer and the workers will tear it up. When using it in a commercial application, one needs common sense and realize its a homeowner grade machine and treat it accordingly.
buy a honda period problem solved.
Nah, never settle for a 21 inch. Now if they made a 26-30 inch I would say for sure! Step it up Honda!
I bought a 450 dollar Honda mower and it only lasted two year no power transmission always messed up I hated that thing but maybe I bought a lemon 😂 but I always hear good thing about Honda but I love Briggs engines there really good have a good day
Well that sounds good, if Honda had a 30-in mower... which they don't.
And if you don't care about having to constantly replace the transmission axle shaft bushings on the hrn, hrr and hrx mowers, which if you don't replace quickly enough, can wear the transmission axle shafts so you get to buy a new transmission.
And I don't know what the tire treads on the Honda's are made out of, but I go through a set of those faster than my kid wears out the tires on their Mattel toy cars.
Then there's the cheesy height adjustment levers which just have a little stamped out sheet metal tab that eventually ends up rounding off so your wheels pop out of their height setting if you hit a bump. Fortunately your other three adjustment levers will probably still hold their height. Yeah that's right - you have to adjust each wheel individually. Which is a pain when you're going from one yard to another yard and setting the height for each one.
Honda makes a pretty good mower engine. But as far as their mowers go, I think they stopped engineering at the engine. Honestly, I think the only people that are impressed with Honda mowers are the ones that previously had an MTD mower or some other piece of junk.
@@47f0 They actually do. A 32 inch Ferris comes with a Honda engine.
@@brickgoon - And the Ferris is not made by Honda. You can tell because it's a better mower. As I said in my post, I don't have a problem with Honda engines, I just don't think much of their mowers.
The irony here is that Ferris is owned by Briggs & Stratton. I don't think much of Briggs & Stratton engines. Apparently neither does Briggs & Stratton... that's why they put a Honda on it.
Clog master.
Timemaster is a crappie mower
There is nothing close to it for the price.
I have problems with this lawnmower, every year I have to get it fix I don't recommend this lawnmower
clogmaster