Excellent review. This is the 3rd year running my Timemaster. Only cut (5) 1/3 acre lots weekly as a side hustle. Well built mower and powerful reliable engine.
I have the Timemaster and I just bought a commercial Turfmaster for twice the price. I use the Timemaster more because it is way easier to maneuver and lighter. Believe it or not the Timemaster has more power to cut higher thicker grass.
Great Vid, ex-Michigander myself....GO BLUE!!!! home-bound in Cape Coral FL. Getting ready to order one of these for my startup Lawn Service (waiting on my business permit ) and yeah i think it's a good idea to buy local too. For the very reason you explained. you never know when something minor can turn catastrophic when you buy online.
My take on the Timemaster after owning it for 3 years. The good: Stong engine. Good build quality. I like the wheel drive system. I like the single lever wheel adjust. It's a two/three pull engine start. The deck cuts close to obstacles. I like the folding handle and it's simple release lever. The bad: Deck clogs badly on even slightly wet grass, and makes mulching hard. The wash-out system is virtually useless. The opening of the bagger won't fit into brown recycling bags, making it difficult to empty without making a mess. The gas cap should be subject to recall. The rubber seal does not mate properly and gas sloshes out and around the seal. I even installed a new cap with the same result. I found my own thicker seal and fixed it immediately. The blue foam in the tank is an absolute joke. I kept mine in for some time, but eventually yanked it out. It's volume was substantial to an already undersized tank. My conclusion: It's a great mower that works well in dry grass. It is very durable and has cut 5-7 yards a week for 3 years for me now. It has been a real money maker. The deck could be better. The tank should be larger. Bought mine in 2020 for $1099 and the price increase to 2023 of $1599 has far outpaced inflation. Hey, they know they have a winner, and they are pricing it to what the market will fetch. I tried to buy mine at the local Toro dealer, but they didn't have any in stock at the time. Home Depot had one, so I got mine there. Every time I get parts at that dealer, he asks is I bought i there. I get to rub it in how they didn't have any when I needed it. Toro corporate should be taking care of the Toro dealers who service these machines by making sure they get the first dibs they need to make a new sale, but they don't.
Thanks for the review. I have mixed feelings about this mower. On the one hand it does a great job and substantially reduces my cut time. On the other hand it has a ridiculously small gas tank and is pretty temperamental. Mine has been in for service 3 times, one of which required a full engine replacement. I've owned it less than 2 years and use it solely for my own yard. Toro and Briggs & Stratton both stood behind their product and I haven't spent a dime but it's still annoying. Can't say I'd recommend it.
I bought this mower for residential use this year and I'm really please so far. I've only used it a couple of times but it's good. I do have the electric start though. That was the only one the dealer had so I took it but my first choice was the non-electric start just because it seemed like there was more to break with the electric start, battery, etc. Having said that I do really like the electric start. It just easy and it works. Love the U of M hat!
i am reading of quite a few owners changing out the stock blades for the toro turfmaster blades which have a slight pitch difference giving more lift to the grass and thus a better cut
I bought my Timemaster May 2019. Before I put gas in for the first time, I removed that blue sponge. I definitely get an hour of runtime and haven’t had any issues whatsoever. I just used some long needle nose pliers
I've always been curious about pulling the sponge out, and how much more gas you can fit in the tank if you do that. Definitely have peaked my curiosity.
@@Liberty73_NA I haven't. I can get through a mow without needing to refill. That being said my old mower I could probably get through 2 mows before needing to refill. So I'm still considering it but haven't done it yet
I just bought this behemoth last fall to use this season. I have about a 1/2 acre property that is mostly flat. I was just about to start it up and decided to get a refresher course first. I wanted to know if there was anything special I needed to do before I started it up. I forgot what I was told in the fall (I blame WiFi). :) Nope, just gas and check the oil. NOTE: What Michael Douglas said is correct about the dealer. I ordered it from Toro online to a local dealer (True Value Hardware in Centereach, NY) and the local dealer contacted me with a delivery date. They came over and dropped it off about a week or so later. They familiarized me with everything and made sure I was comfortable using it before they left. I was amazed at this personalized service. I HIGHLY agree and recommend using a local Toro dealer. It might take a week or so for you to actually get the mower, but it is worth it. The mower was set up and ready to go when delivered with a private lesson on how to operate and maintain the mower. Can't beat that.
@@mct8888 On the 1/2 acre I think you could go either way. Ride on mowers will get the job done faster than a traditionally sized push mower, and they are also great for picking up leaves if you live in a temperate climate zone. You can also haul small loads with it too. I didn't go down that road because ride on mowers are more expensive in general, and I probably would have wanted something over $2000. I see my neighbor getting maintenance done at least twice a year for his ride on. With the traditional mower, I feel confident enough that I can do the maintenance myself. With a ride on mower, I wouldn't even attempt it. I rarely need to move things very far in my yard, so the hauling factor wasn't important to me. My wheel barrow works fine anyway. Leaf clean up is probably the only area where I might wish I had a ride on. Storage is another issue. Ride on mowers are larger and usually have bigger accessories. I have a big garage, but I didn't want to dedicate a large portion of it to a lawn mower. One of the most important factors is that I need the exercise. :) I sit down too much already. I have to admit, I used to dread mowing because it took so long (exercise or not!). With this Timemaster, I get done pretty quick. Almost as quick as my neighbors with their ride on mowers. The fuel tank size is an issue as many people have written in reviews. I get around this by mowing my front yard, topping off the tank and then mowing the back. It doesn't seem to bother me when I do that. So far I am loving this mower. For some good info on this mower, look up The Lawn Care Nut's videos (here on TH-cam) and search for "Timemaster." Or just follow this link: th-cam.com/users/Thelawncarenutsearch?query=timemaster
@@mct8888 I mow the front and then top-off the tank and then mow the back. I kept the "sponge" insert in the tank. Other people take that sponge insert out and they say they get a longer run time. I haven't tried that yet. I know that when I first mowed my lawn without topping off, I did run out of gas (which is why I top it off now). It really isn't a bother to top off the tank (for me anyway) since the yard is completed much faster than it used to be. It isn't the perfect mower, but I can live with its faults and I'm overall happy with it.
Awesome review! Snagging 2 of these bad boys used this weekend hopefully to accompany my new HRX. Will resell one and keep the one with a new motor on it. Been wanting to grab one for a few years.
I'm 145 pounds and have been lifting this in and out of my station wagon, and pickup truck for months. You cant lift it solo with your skirt on, that's for sure.
@@GunnyPhillips I agree, but as a younger man who still lifts weights and competes in martial arts, I'd be embarrassed if I couldn't pickup 200 pounds of weight lol Maybe in another 10 years I'll ease up on the meat machine
Really good review - thanks. I just bought one based on this. I tried to follow your advice and buy it at a local Toro dealer, but none of them had one so I ended up buying at Home Depot. Hopefully the time saved cutting will more than offset the assembly time!
I enjoy your review, I was watching some of the reviews that people were having trouble with the deck pully's, and there is a new and improved replacement for the pully's. Have you have any of these problems ?? Thanks for you review.
This is my two year review on the mower! m.th-cam.com/video/y63qlroWIr0/w-d-xo.html No, I have yet to have anything go wrong with this mower. That being said I don’t use it as much as other people do.
Thanks! Yes, the deck is great and the cut quality it great! Really good machine. Other than a bad gas cap I’ve had no problems with this mower. We will see what year two brings but I have high hopes.
How would you compare the TimeMaster to the Toro Proline 32? I can pick up one used for the price of a new Timemaster. I'm only using it for my 1/3rd acre lawn that is a little hilly so not commercial use. I hear the proline 32 is easier and more heavy duty for hilly lawns.
I have never used the proline but I have used an Exmark metro which is basically the same thing. It really depends on what your looking for. The proline is going to be heavier but it’s probably more powerful and built stronger. I’m personally not a huge fan of belt drive mowers. It has a lot bigger gas tank than the timemaster. I’m not a huge fan of the pistol grips though and I really like the personal pace system. I’d say if you’re going through thick stuff you’d want the proline but if your using it weekly the timemaster is probably going to be easier to use. You really can’t go wrong either way though.
Hi... I'm a small lawn care business owner too and was thinking about investing in Toro Timemaster but there are few things that worry me.. First is just a matter of convenience since I've been using Honda mower with their genius versamow system which means no mulch plugs, no side discharge shute, nothing. I would probably loose these stuff or forget to put the right setup for the right mowing application. The other thing that's bugging me is that a Timemaster is a residential mower and I simply can't afford to invest into it's commercial grade cousin Exmark 30". I mow about 2-3 hours daily during the season, do you think Timemaster can handle that? What is your experience?Thank you in advance..
Yes, I think it can handle 2-3 hours a day per season. I’m in a group on Facebook called toro timemaster owners. People on there are using it more than that. I only use mine about an hour a week though.
How do you clean the deck underneath? Those garden hose deck attachments just make a sloppy mushy mess @t experience up in PA . Can you prop this up and reach underneath easily to scrape it clean?
Is it all wheel drive ? Also is it heavy ?...... I use a Husqvarna 21" and it pulls itself up hills with minimal effort from myself, but boy is that thing heavy. I was looking for a self propelled mower to replace only because the size. The folks who prefer to have their yards pushed mowed, yards are huge.😓
Great review! I've watched a several different videos for the same model of this. It seemed like this Toro Timemaster model is really a decent mower. I have a Toro Recycler 20332 22" with 190CC flathead B&S. I had no problems with it since I take care of it really well and i have it for like over 6 years. I just pulled to start engine with just one pull rope. I think i would like to have a 30" because my new home with this lawn is quite larger and grass is so thick, but my mower can handles it no problem but it took me forever to finish my whole lawn. Do you think can you recommend this Toro timemaster? I also consider Toro HDX 22225. But I can't decide between those two models. I also have another question. How difficult is it to replace the belts? How often should I replace it?
I forgot to mention. My lawn is flat on right side of my house except a bit back near my backyard. There's a hill. But that's it. The left side of my lawn is somewhat flat but it has some curved hill, but not exactly steep as my right side a bit back..anyway...will you still recommend this timemaster???
Yes, I’d recommend it. I can’t say about the other mowers because I haven’t used them. I’ve had if for a year and never had to change the belt. Depending on how much you use it the belt is going to last a long time.
You kept referring to the commercial equivalent of this machine as the timecutter. The time cutter is a totally different machine. The commercial version of the timemaster is called the turfmaster.
Just got mine today really good review man im glad i got this one instead of the 22 inch....I been through 2 off the smaller toros already might as try this one out.
I’m thinking of getting one to use all the time for quarter acre lots or smaller. I’m thinking it will likely need some components replaced around 150-200 hours. But shit I can buy two for the price of one turf master or exmark 30.
Help! I just bought this mower new. I've run it less than two hours total. All of as sudden it won't run for more than about 15 seconds. Starts up immediately, Gas is leaking from the fuel line where it attaches to the tank. Oil is leaking about five inches forward of that. What do I do?
Where did you by it from? It’s still under warranty. Any toro dealer should be able to fix all these issues for free. If you bought it from a box store you might want to call toro. They should be able to tell you where to take it. When I first bought mine mine would shit off as well. It was a bad gas cap. Sounds like the gas isn’t getting to the engine.
Thanks Michael. You've been so helpful: first in the buying process, and now with the repair process. I'm only sorry the two came so close together. It's at a Toro dealer now. Unfortunately they told me it will take them two weeks to get to it! Aaaargh
You're right (again). I called Home Depot and they said they'd give me a new one. Then I called the Toro repair place and told them to cancel repair. Now they say they'll have it repaired in a couple of days. Not sure what I should do.
Have a 2017 with little over 200 hours on hr meter i put on. Cuts great very good for tight access and small yards. Take out that foam in the tank. Shop vac out the tank after removing foam incase there is any debre. My only complaint is the tiny gas tank and the $20 per blade expense. Fwi the mower is not surging in the video engage the blades and the engine rpm stabilizes mine does samething since new.
@@kingofmphs First thing i did before i ever put oil in "rotella t3 30 weight" was remove the foam. Then shop vac the tank then put on a hr meter. After that filled motor with oil then filled mower up with non ethanol fuel. Also make sure your air filter has the prefilter foam mine did not come with it. Go to home depot buy a filter use the pre filter. Love my timemaster it's got a good niche I reccomend the copper head mulching blades seem to weigh little more mulches great 👍
@@kingofmphs I have no way to compare but the foam takes away capacity. I also have a theory that over time that foam will deteriorate and clog up the fuel filter.
Great review, very informative. One question. What's the reason for not recommending if you have a hill? If going perpendicular on the hill, do you believe it would work fine? I've yet to buy this machine, but thinking about picking one up this week. Was going to get it from the HD, but makes sense to go to a dealer. I have s few Toro dealers in my area and looking on line they are the same price at one that post pricing. Thanks for the heads up 👍
It’s heavier than your standard 22 inch push mower. The tranny isn’t very powerful when it comes to steep hills. I would definitely recommend going perpendicular. It weighs about 150 pounds compared to a 80-90 pound 22 inch push mower.
I’ve only had it for one year. I really can’t speak on that issue. It’s been a good mower so far. I just looked it up, the new transmission cost $84 on amazon. Not sure how easy it would be to replace it. I’d say a dealer would probably be $200 or so. Just guessing.
@@douglaslawncare2843 well thank you sir im just tired of use a 22 inch lawnmower in a 21 inche lawnmower too it seem it takes longer to get done so thats why i want buy a toro timemaster well its the first time ever
@@douglaslawncare2843 and it’s also noticeably heavier from what others have experienced. It also has a much bigger fuel tank. I have a TM. It’s been a good unit for me. Even on smaller yards, it makes a difference in how much time it knocks off compared to a 20”-22” mower.
"you never have to worry about a dead battery" - Just wanted to point out here that the electric starter version of the Timemaster still has a pull string on it. So that statement isn't totally accurate.
@@douglaslawncare2843 That is also incorrect. I have the electric starter one, so I speak from experience. They come with a rechargable battery. You plug a charging cable (provided with the mower) into the key turn to charge it. The battery lasts about a year. Not a terrible downside for having to charge about once a year. That being said, the pull start is still available if it dies and you don't want to wait to charge it.
Depends on how steep the hill is and if you’re trying to go up it. It will hold a hill well if your going sideways. The transition is not very powerful so if you’re trying to go up a steep hill I would not recommend it. It’s quite a bit heavier than a 22”. That extra weight makes going up a steep hill hard.
@@douglaslawncare2843 I have a 22-in Toro, and I don't like it. It clogs a lot. The Time Master would make work so much quicker. And I like that adjustable transmission pace. Thinking about buying one, but they're pricey - a $1000. 🤷🏼♂️
Why do all the commercial guys buy these residential timemaster 30’s cry and leave bad reviews when they break down? Why wouldn’t you buy a commercial unit for your company. You could get tax deductions so dollars shouldn’t be an issue.
How many other mowers have you owned with a sponge in the gas tank? They all work fine. They claim it is a filter and helps prevent gas sloshing around. I've owned many gas powered equipment never had an issue with either. It dies slightly reduce the amount of usable gas and reduce run time. I might wait until it's out of warranty to remove it in case it would void it.
@@whywoulditellyou00Gas cap will not seal completely when tank is full and you can expect vibrations when running which will tend to spray out a little gasoline, especially after a fill up. I'd leave it in the tank and let it baffle the fuel and preventing it from spilling onto lawn. That's what it's designed to do.
Possibly, it was the first time that I ran it from sitting all winter. I think it will be fine once it’s being used again. If it keeps doing it though, I will definitely need to do that.
That's what I do. 7:24 "...too heavy to pick up." Just get a ramp kit for your truck tailgate and bolt on some 8ft. wooden studs to walk the Timemaster into back of truck. One man job, I do it all the time, you can push it up without power engaged but it's easier depending on how long the planks are and how steep your angle is to load. Also be very wary of any excessive vibration which could mean one of the blades may be starting to crack from stress. Hairline cracks may be almost invisible to naked eye but will produce considerable vibration when synchro belt is engaged and blades are turning. Expect to have downtimes for replacing cables and belts which are going to break or wear out eventually. Everything can be DIY if you have mechanical ability.
You are lucky to get five years out of this machine. Loved it until it was worthless. Belts, pulleys, spindles, cables, kill switch , nothing is made to last. The worst design failure is grass and debris accumulation under the plastic cowl covering the front pulley system. Belt tensioner, pulleys and deck get destroyed. The problem is no one makes a 30- 32 inch mower in this price range. Everything else is commercial and over 3K.
Excellent review. This is the 3rd year running my Timemaster. Only cut (5) 1/3 acre lots weekly as a side hustle. Well built mower and powerful reliable engine.
Thanks!
I have the Timemaster and I just bought a commercial Turfmaster for twice the price.
I use the Timemaster more because it is way easier to maneuver and lighter.
Believe it or not the Timemaster has more power to cut higher thicker grass.
Did you buy the turf master or turf master HDX.
I agree with your run time comments. I estimate it can mow about 1/3 of an acre before needing a refill. It should have a tank atleast 50% bigger.
Or even take that blue sponge out so more fuel can fit in the tank.
Great Vid, ex-Michigander myself....GO BLUE!!!! home-bound in Cape Coral FL. Getting ready to order one of these for my startup Lawn Service (waiting on my business permit ) and yeah i think it's a good idea to buy local too. For the very reason you explained. you never know when something minor can turn catastrophic when you buy online.
Thanks! Congratulations on the start up! Lawn care was definitely the best business move I’ve ever made! Go Blue!
My take on the Timemaster after owning it for 3 years. The good: Stong engine. Good build quality. I like the wheel drive system. I like the single lever wheel adjust. It's a two/three pull engine start. The deck cuts close to obstacles. I like the folding handle and it's simple release lever. The bad: Deck clogs badly on even slightly wet grass, and makes mulching hard. The wash-out system is virtually useless. The opening of the bagger won't fit into brown recycling bags, making it difficult to empty without making a mess. The gas cap should be subject to recall. The rubber seal does not mate properly and gas sloshes out and around the seal. I even installed a new cap with the same result. I found my own thicker seal and fixed it immediately. The blue foam in the tank is an absolute joke. I kept mine in for some time, but eventually yanked it out. It's volume was substantial to an already undersized tank. My conclusion: It's a great mower that works well in dry grass. It is very durable and has cut 5-7 yards a week for 3 years for me now. It has been a real money maker. The deck could be better. The tank should be larger. Bought mine in 2020 for $1099 and the price increase to 2023 of $1599 has far outpaced inflation. Hey, they know they have a winner, and they are pricing it to what the market will fetch. I tried to buy mine at the local Toro dealer, but they didn't have any in stock at the time. Home Depot had one, so I got mine there. Every time I get parts at that dealer, he asks is I bought i there. I get to rub it in how they didn't have any when I needed it. Toro corporate should be taking care of the Toro dealers who service these machines by making sure they get the first dibs they need to make a new sale, but they don't.
Thanks for the review. I have mixed feelings about this mower. On the one hand it does a great job and substantially reduces my cut time. On the other hand it has a ridiculously small gas tank and is pretty temperamental. Mine has been in for service 3 times, one of which required a full engine replacement. I've owned it less than 2 years and use it solely for my own yard. Toro and Briggs & Stratton both stood behind their product and I haven't spent a dime but it's still annoying. Can't say I'd recommend it.
Thanks for your input! 👍🏻👊🏻
I bought this mower for residential use this year and I'm really please so far. I've only used it a couple of times but it's good. I do have the electric start though. That was the only one the dealer had so I took it but my first choice was the non-electric start just because it seemed like there was more to break with the electric start, battery, etc. Having said that I do really like the electric start. It just easy and it works.
Love the U of M hat!
Yes, the ease of use with the electric start would be nice but I personally didn’t think it was worth it. Go Blue!
i am reading of quite a few owners changing out the stock blades for the toro turfmaster blades which have a slight pitch difference giving more lift to the grass and thus a better cut
I bought my Timemaster May 2019. Before I put gas in for the first time, I removed that blue sponge. I definitely get an hour of runtime and haven’t had any issues whatsoever. I just used some long needle nose pliers
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Yea same here, i took the sponge out. No problems either
I've always been curious about pulling the sponge out, and how much more gas you can fit in the tank if you do that. Definitely have peaked my curiosity.
@@Dwk001 Have you taken the sponge out? And if so, have you noticed an increase in mowing time?
@@Liberty73_NA I haven't. I can get through a mow without needing to refill. That being said my old mower I could probably get through 2 mows before needing to refill. So I'm still considering it but haven't done it yet
Electric is also pull start. Never had an issue with either. Charge the battery at the beginning of the season and it lasts the whole time.
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I just bought this behemoth last fall to use this season. I have about a 1/2 acre property that is mostly flat. I was just about to start it up and decided to get a refresher course first. I wanted to know if there was anything special I needed to do before I started it up. I forgot what I was told in the fall (I blame WiFi). :) Nope, just gas and check the oil. NOTE: What Michael Douglas said is correct about the dealer. I ordered it from Toro online to a local dealer (True Value Hardware in Centereach, NY) and the local dealer contacted me with a delivery date. They came over and dropped it off about a week or so later. They familiarized me with everything and made sure I was comfortable using it before they left. I was amazed at this personalized service. I HIGHLY agree and recommend using a local Toro dealer. It might take a week or so for you to actually get the mower, but it is worth it. The mower was set up and ready to go when delivered with a private lesson on how to operate and maintain the mower. Can't beat that.
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I also have a 1/2 acre. Did you consider getting a rider? What made you decide on a walk-behind?
@@mct8888 On the 1/2 acre I think you could go either way. Ride on mowers will get the job done faster than a traditionally sized push mower, and they are also great for picking up leaves if you live in a temperate climate zone. You can also haul small loads with it too. I didn't go down that road because ride on mowers are more expensive in general, and I probably would have wanted something over $2000. I see my neighbor getting maintenance done at least twice a year for his ride on. With the traditional mower, I feel confident enough that I can do the maintenance myself. With a ride on mower, I wouldn't even attempt it. I rarely need to move things very far in my yard, so the hauling factor wasn't important to me. My wheel barrow works fine anyway. Leaf clean up is probably the only area where I might wish I had a ride on. Storage is another issue. Ride on mowers are larger and usually have bigger accessories. I have a big garage, but I didn't want to dedicate a large portion of it to a lawn mower. One of the most important factors is that I need the exercise. :) I sit down too much already. I have to admit, I used to dread mowing because it took so long (exercise or not!). With this Timemaster, I get done pretty quick. Almost as quick as my neighbors with their ride on mowers. The fuel tank size is an issue as many people have written in reviews. I get around this by mowing my front yard, topping off the tank and then mowing the back. It doesn't seem to bother me when I do that. So far I am loving this mower. For some good info on this mower, look up The Lawn Care Nut's videos (here on TH-cam) and search for "Timemaster." Or just follow this link: th-cam.com/users/Thelawncarenutsearch?query=timemaster
Liberty75 thank you for the detailed advice. What’s your experience with the small gas tank? 45 min run time is kind of a joke.
@@mct8888 I mow the front and then top-off the tank and then mow the back. I kept the "sponge" insert in the tank. Other people take that sponge insert out and they say they get a longer run time. I haven't tried that yet. I know that when I first mowed my lawn without topping off, I did run out of gas (which is why I top it off now). It really isn't a bother to top off the tank (for me anyway) since the yard is completed much faster than it used to be. It isn't the perfect mower, but I can live with its faults and I'm overall happy with it.
You really have an excellent review here with well thought out points that you made - thanks.
Thank you!
No nonsense review. Great work! Very helpful for my purchase decision.
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Awesome review! Snagging 2 of these bad boys used this weekend hopefully to accompany my new HRX. Will resell one and keep the one with a new motor on it. Been wanting to grab one for a few years.
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I'm 145 pounds and have been lifting this in and out of my station wagon, and pickup truck for months. You cant lift it solo with your skirt on, that's for sure.
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Nova 1 you do not have to get it up that high when you’re driving a station wagon vs a truck tailgate
@@Hitm8kr I said my wagon, and my pick up in my post dude. I have an old piece of shit 98 silverado and 2012 tdi wagon
You probably shouldn't. You're human and will eventually pay a price for doing things like that.
@@GunnyPhillips I agree, but as a younger man who still lifts weights and competes in martial arts, I'd be embarrassed if I couldn't pickup 200 pounds of weight lol
Maybe in another 10 years I'll ease up on the meat machine
I'm considering this mower,...very informative video. My one concern,...I didn't know it was 145-Lbs!
Yeah, it’s pretty heavy.
I’m in the same boat with you. Our gov said we are low income and non essential.
Really good review - thanks. I just bought one based on this. I tried to follow your advice and buy it at a local Toro dealer, but none of them had one so I ended up buying at Home Depot. Hopefully the time saved cutting will more than offset the assembly time!
You can order one on the Toro web site and they send it to your local dealer where they assemble and deliver it to you.
Great video! Is the Timemaster able to handle tall overgrown grass without bogging down.
No. It will bog down
I enjoy your review, I was watching some of the reviews that people were having trouble with the deck pully's, and there is a new and improved replacement for the pully's. Have you have any of these problems ??
Thanks for you review.
This is my two year review on the mower!
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No, I have yet to have anything go wrong with this mower. That being said I don’t use it as much as other people do.
I’m loving mines. And I don’t want it to blow up like everyone keeps saying
Great video I really enjoy my toro timemaster and the deck on this is the same as the commercial deck.
Thanks! Yes, the deck is great and the cut quality it great! Really good machine. Other than a bad gas cap I’ve had no problems with this mower. We will see what year two brings but I have high hopes.
How would you compare the TimeMaster to the Toro Proline 32? I can pick up one used for the price of a new Timemaster. I'm only using it for my 1/3rd acre lawn that is a little hilly so not commercial use. I hear the proline 32 is easier and more heavy duty for hilly lawns.
I have never used the proline but I have used an Exmark metro which is basically the same thing. It really depends on what your looking for. The proline is going to be heavier but it’s probably more powerful and built stronger. I’m personally not a huge fan of belt drive mowers. It has a lot bigger gas tank than the timemaster. I’m not a huge fan of the pistol grips though and I really like the personal pace system. I’d say if you’re going through thick stuff you’d want the proline but if your using it weekly the timemaster is probably going to be easier to use. You really can’t go wrong either way though.
Hi... I'm a small lawn care business owner too and was thinking about investing in Toro Timemaster but there are few things that worry me.. First is just a matter of convenience since I've been using Honda mower with their genius versamow system which means no mulch plugs, no side discharge shute, nothing. I would probably loose these stuff or forget to put the right setup for the right mowing application.
The other thing that's bugging me is that a Timemaster is a residential mower and I simply can't afford to invest into it's commercial grade cousin Exmark 30". I mow about 2-3 hours daily during the season, do you think Timemaster can handle that? What is your experience?Thank you in advance..
Yes, I think it can handle 2-3 hours a day per season. I’m in a group on Facebook called toro timemaster owners. People on there are using it more than that. I only use mine about an hour a week though.
How do you clean the deck underneath? Those garden hose deck attachments just make a sloppy mushy mess @t experience up in PA . Can you prop this up and reach underneath easily to scrape it clean?
Sure. I’d just tip it on its side just like your doing an oil change and scrape it all off.
Electric start model is $100 more and the pull start is equipped in both models.
Yes. I’d still save the $100. This mower starts on the first or second pull every time!
Is it all wheel drive ? Also is it heavy ?...... I use a Husqvarna 21" and it pulls itself up hills with minimal effort from myself, but boy is that thing heavy. I was looking for a self propelled mower to replace only because the size. The folks who prefer to have their yards pushed mowed, yards are huge.😓
The Timemaster is not all wheel drive. It weighs about 150 pounds, depending on which model you have. It’s definitely a heavy unit.
@@douglaslawncare2843 Thanks for the price one would think all wheel drive.
You’re welcome
The electric start has a pull cord also
Correct
The gas tank is comically small on this thing. Then again I'm coming from a 36" dual hydro with a 5 gallon tank. Thing blew up on me. :(
Great review! I've watched a several different videos for the same model of this. It seemed like this Toro Timemaster model is really a decent mower. I have a Toro Recycler 20332 22" with 190CC flathead B&S. I had no problems with it since I take care of it really well and i have it for like over 6 years. I just pulled to start engine with just one pull rope. I think i would like to have a 30" because my new home with this lawn is quite larger and grass is so thick, but my mower can handles it no problem but it took me forever to finish my whole lawn. Do you think can you recommend this Toro timemaster? I also consider Toro HDX 22225. But I can't decide between those two models. I also have another question. How difficult is it to replace the belts? How often should I replace it?
I forgot to mention. My lawn is flat on right side of my house except a bit back near my backyard. There's a hill. But that's it. The left side of my lawn is somewhat flat but it has some curved hill, but not exactly steep as my right side a bit back..anyway...will you still recommend this timemaster???
Yes, I’d recommend it. I can’t say about the other mowers because I haven’t used them. I’ve had if for a year and never had to change the belt. Depending on how much you use it the belt is going to last a long time.
Michael Douglas thanks! I’ll think about it. Your review is very helpful and informative.
You kept referring to the commercial equivalent of this machine as the timecutter. The time cutter is a totally different machine. The commercial version of the timemaster is called the turfmaster.
You’re correct.
Timecutter or turf master?
What are normal things you have to fix?
I haven’t replaced anything yet.
Just got mine today really good review man im glad i got this one instead of the 22 inch....I been through 2 off the smaller toros already might as try this one out.
Thanks! Definitely will save you some time!
I’m thinking of getting one to use all the time for quarter acre lots or smaller. I’m thinking it will likely need some components replaced around 150-200 hours. But shit I can buy two for the price of one turf master or exmark 30.
Exactly!
awesome someone from Michigan... SE michigan myself...
Nice!
Help! I just bought this mower new. I've run it less than two hours total. All of as sudden it won't run for more than about 15 seconds. Starts up immediately, Gas is leaking from the fuel line where it attaches to the tank. Oil is leaking about five inches forward of that. What do I do?
Where did you by it from? It’s still under warranty. Any toro dealer should be able to fix all these issues for free. If you bought it from a box store you might want to call toro. They should be able to tell you where to take it. When I first bought mine mine would shit off as well. It was a bad gas cap. Sounds like the gas isn’t getting to the engine.
Thanks Michael. You've been so helpful: first in the buying process, and now with the repair process. I'm only sorry the two came so close together. It's at a Toro dealer now. Unfortunately they told me it will take them two weeks to get to it! Aaaargh
Seems like they should give you a new one. Just my opinion.
You're right (again). I called Home Depot and they said they'd give me a new one. Then I called the Toro repair place and told them to cancel repair. Now they say they'll have it repaired in a couple of days. Not sure what I should do.
Does the warranty change with commercial use?
I believe it’s a 90 day warranty if your using it commercially. Don’t tell them that your using it commercially though. 🤣
Excellent review!
Thanks!
Have a 2017 with little over 200 hours on hr meter i put on. Cuts great very good for tight access and small yards. Take out that foam in the tank. Shop vac out the tank after removing foam incase there is any debre. My only complaint is the tiny gas tank and the $20 per blade expense. Fwi the mower is not surging in the video engage the blades and the engine rpm stabilizes mine does samething since new.
I was wondering about the foam in the tank?
@@kingofmphs First thing i did before i ever put oil in "rotella t3 30 weight" was remove the foam. Then shop vac the tank then put on a hr meter. After that filled motor with oil then filled mower up with non ethanol fuel. Also make sure your air filter has the prefilter foam mine did not come with it. Go to home depot buy a filter use the pre filter. Love my timemaster it's got a good niche I reccomend the copper head mulching blades seem to weigh little more mulches great 👍
John Hill did taking the foam out make much difference?
@@kingofmphs I have no way to compare but the foam takes away capacity. I also have a theory that over time that foam will deteriorate and clog up the fuel filter.
@@kingofmphs That sponge is keeping gas from carb reducing amount of full tank.
Do you still have it
Thanks man. Good review
You’re welcome! Glad it helped!
Great review, very informative.
One question. What's the reason for not recommending if you have a hill? If going perpendicular on the hill, do you believe it would work fine? I've yet to buy this machine, but thinking about picking one up this week. Was going to get it from the HD, but makes sense to go to a dealer. I have s few Toro dealers in my area and looking on line they are the same price at one that post pricing. Thanks for the heads up 👍
It’s heavier than your standard 22 inch push mower. The tranny isn’t very powerful when it comes to steep hills. I would definitely recommend going perpendicular. It weighs about 150 pounds compared to a 80-90 pound 22 inch push mower.
How is longevity reliability? I see on other vids the transmission tends to go and the pully system can be troublesome
I’ve only had it for one year. I really can’t speak on that issue. It’s been a good mower so far. I just looked it up, the new transmission cost $84 on amazon. Not sure how easy it would be to replace it. I’d say a dealer would probably be $200 or so. Just guessing.
Well i heard the gas tank its real small well i heard alot things but i want know if is the timemaster anygood in if does not have any problems
No issues with it so far.
@@douglaslawncare2843 well thank you sir im just tired of use a 22 inch lawnmower in a 21 inche lawnmower too it seem it takes longer to get done so thats why i want buy a toro timemaster well its the first time ever
Which is better Timemaster or Turf Master
Definitely the turf master. The turf master is a commercial unit and the timemaster is not. The turf master does cost double the timemaster though.
@@douglaslawncare2843 Thank you
@@douglaslawncare2843 and it’s also noticeably heavier from what others have experienced. It also has a much bigger fuel tank. I have a TM. It’s been a good unit for me. Even on smaller yards, it makes a difference in how much time it knocks off compared to a 20”-22” mower.
Great Review Bro!!! Thank -You!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
What mower would you recommend for a hilly yard with lots of obstacles?
I have a hilly yard in the front of my house and my Timemaster has no issues pulling up that hill as fast as I can walk. This machine can do it all!
"you never have to worry about a dead battery" - Just wanted to point out here that the electric starter version of the Timemaster still has a pull string on it. So that statement isn't totally accurate.
Yes, you are correct it does have a pull starter. But you do have to replace the battery when they die.
@@douglaslawncare2843 That is also incorrect. I have the electric starter one, so I speak from experience. They come with a rechargable battery. You plug a charging cable (provided with the mower) into the key turn to charge it. The battery lasts about a year. Not a terrible downside for having to charge about once a year. That being said, the pull start is still available if it dies and you don't want to wait to charge it.
Also... Please don't take this as negativity, just wanted to make sure facts were called out/ correct. Great video otherwise!
Yes, I guess I should have said it differently. It will need to be replaced.
the engine was surging, wasn't it?
Yes, I had just started it up for the first time after the winter. It just needed to run for a second. It’s fine. 👍🏻
What is the top speed? A fast walk? borderline run?
I believe it’s just under 5 mph.I usually don’t go as fast as it can go and I’m usually walking at a faster pace than most.
Looking to get one but we have a big hill in the back yard any thoughts on how it handles on hills
Depends on how steep the hill is and if you’re trying to go up it. It will hold a hill well if your going sideways. The transition is not very powerful so if you’re trying to go up a steep hill I would not recommend it. It’s quite a bit heavier than a 22”. That extra weight makes going up a steep hill hard.
with more weight, does it leave ruts from the narrow wheels?
If you go in the same pattern every week then yes, definitely. I change it up week to week and it’s fine.
Thank you for the review. 👍
You’re welcome!
@@douglaslawncare2843 I have a 22-in Toro, and I don't like it. It clogs a lot. The Time Master would make work so much quicker. And I like that adjustable transmission pace. Thinking about buying one, but they're pricey - a $1000. 🤷🏼♂️
The Electric start all so has a recoil and it is only 100. Dollars more with electric start .
You’re correct. I decided to save the money. I personally think it was worth saving. It still starts up on the first pull. Thanks for watching!
If im always mulching what is the best blade to get
Something that looks like this.
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The electric start still has manual start and only adds $100......
Why do all the commercial guys buy these residential timemaster 30’s cry and leave bad reviews when they break down? Why wouldn’t you buy a commercial unit for your company. You could get tax deductions so dollars shouldn’t be an issue.
Did you even watch the video? This mower is a great mower and I only use it on one property.
@@douglaslawncare2843 wasn’t directed towards you or to belittle you. More of a question. Because it’s a very common debate with a timemaster.
Cause lawn guys are not the smartest business owners you know.
Love my timemaster!
Nice
It’s only a $100 difference at my toro store for electric start.
Sounds about right. I’d still save the $100. Starts on the first pull every time!
@@douglaslawncare2843 man now you got me thinking if it’s worth it or not. Everytime is pretty impressive!
Ironically it's near the exact price of my Government Stimulus Check
It’s calling you’re name! 😂
Take the sponge out, it's not necessary. Nice review 👍
Manual says not to take it out.
How many other mowers have you owned with a sponge in the gas tank? They all work fine. They claim it is a filter and helps prevent gas sloshing around. I've owned many gas powered equipment never had an issue with either. It dies slightly reduce the amount of usable gas and reduce run time.
I might wait until it's out of warranty to remove it in case it would void it.
I’m pretty sure I read it does void the warranty. That’s the only reason I’ve kept it in.
@@whywoulditellyou00Gas cap will not seal completely when tank is full and you can expect vibrations when running which will tend to spray out a little gasoline, especially after a fill up. I'd leave it in the tank and let it baffle the fuel and preventing it from spilling onto lawn. That's what it's designed to do.
sounds like its surging around the 7 minute mark
She’s still running great!
so whats max speed? 7 mph?
I believe it’s 4.5 but I’m not 💯 % sure on that. It’s fast enough.
Exmark is toro . Didn’t know if you knew that
Exmark is a sub-company of Toro.
I use Honda's
Nice.
Your mower was surging. You need to clean out your main port in your carb. There are videos if you’re not sure how to.
Possibly, it was the first time that I ran it from sitting all winter. I think it will be fine once it’s being used again. If it keeps doing it though, I will definitely need to do that.
just either buy a nice aluminum ramp or just make some wood ramps to get it on truck... no need for a trailer imo...
Sure, that would work.
That's what I do. 7:24 "...too heavy to pick up." Just get a ramp kit for your truck tailgate and bolt on some 8ft. wooden studs to walk the Timemaster into back of truck. One man job, I do it all the time, you can push it up without power engaged but it's easier depending on how long the planks are and how steep your angle is to load.
Also be very wary of any excessive vibration which could mean one of the blades may be starting to crack from stress. Hairline cracks may be almost invisible to naked eye but will produce considerable vibration when synchro belt is engaged and blades are turning. Expect to have downtimes for replacing cables and belts which are going to break or wear out eventually. Everything can be DIY if you have mechanical ability.
That carb needs to be cleaned
No, it’s good. It was the first start of the season. It’s been running like a champ since! Thanks for watching!
Transmission sucks, won’t even get up tiny inclines. Only works on totally flat lawns.
You are lucky to get five years out of this machine. Loved it until it was worthless. Belts, pulleys, spindles, cables, kill switch , nothing is made to last. The worst design failure is grass and debris accumulation under the plastic cowl covering the front pulley system. Belt tensioner, pulleys and deck get destroyed. The problem is no one makes a 30- 32 inch mower in this price range. Everything else is commercial and over 3K.
I’m on year #3
Five years is 43,800 hrs.
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vroom vroom vroom, sounds like the governor is off
It’s fine. After running it awhile it runs like a champ!
Don`t waste your money Timecutter is complete garbage.