great explanation, I have a Thermacore 190 door. is it possible to replace the existing bulb style retainer with a universal retainer so I can get a "beefyer" type universal seal?
@@sosgds thanks fo rthe reply. YES, its a Thermacore a tongue and groove. is it possible to replace the existing bulb style retainer with a universal retainer so I can get a "beefyer" type universal seal? Maybe even screw a universal retainer over the top?
So helpful, thank you! Needed to remove my old retainers to prep for new and wasn’t sure how to handle the bolts in order to keep tension. This showed me perfectly! All done now on my 3 car! Yeahhh me! Much appreciation to you.
Good and informative video. I have one question though. The installer described how he was folding -in the ends of the excess seal on each end, but did not mention why he was doing it that way and how he did it nor why instead of trimming the excess end pieces off. What is the purpose of leaving the short excess piece and why and how do you fold it in? Does this prevent insects and rodents from getting inside the open space of the tube?
Thanks for your instructional video. I viewed several w/s replacing videos; only you provided the cautionary statement saying that removing the bottom roller would cause harm. ❤
Another fantastic informative video.. Wow that was a nightmare change out. Great job fighting through it. I appreciate the time you take to make these videos
@@sosgds nope we don't install them probably just because of the price point. But we do install the 3120h so the main part of the opener is perfect . I was kinda hoping it would be brighter,, but at least you can get the special leds through lowes or home depot.. unlike liftmasters which is an expensive led pod. I can't wait to see your review of it though!
What size screws did you use? I need to fix my brother's bottom retainer, too because it fell off and when I checked under his garage door and the retainer I was shocked to see that there were no drill holes anywhere so I wondered if the guys who recently installed his new garage door forgot to drill it in place? As a result, my brother's bottom retainer has a little dent on it that needs to be straightened out and drilled on the bottom of his garage door. My older brother is too weak to do it so, I'm going to do it for him. Thank you for posting this video; it's a life saver for my brother! Your instructions are very clear and you make it look easy!
Hello. I'm so sorry to hear that about your brother's garage door. It's really not a hard process if you use the right screws. What you're basically looking for are small one and a quarter or one and a half inch tap screws. I prefer to go with the smaller hex screws but you can also go with a Philips head screw. And because you'll be applying the screws under the bottom of the door you can be generous with how many you use. Basically you want to make sure it's secure and that the retainer is firmly established. Hope that helps!
Hi there, thanks so much for your informative video! My retainer track is a P-Body style, and the retainer does not have access from the side to slide a new weather seal into. I have to pull one side of the retainer down so that I can access the track. My retainer is similar to yours, it's fastened on each end with two bolts running through each bottom bracket. If I unfasten each bolt one at a time, and tack into the slotting above each bolt, the bottom bracket should be free from any danger, correct? It's not going to fly off if I follow the steps you followed? Each bolt is fastened very sturdily, so I gathered from your video that it should be okay to remove one bolt, attach it to the slotting above, and then remove the other bolt, and attach it above as well. Thanks!
Hello. Please, please, please be careful doing anything with the bottom brackets. As a professional we try to work under the safest conditions to not injure ourselves. Thus I highly recommend outsourcing the help of a local contractor to assist you with that need. When I list the door I apply at least one vice grip under one of the rollers to ensure the door does not suddenly fall. Additionally, I wear the proper PPE, especially for my eyes just in case the bracket suddenly breaks off. I hope this helps.
Thanks for your timely response! I plan on doing this as safely as possible, but wanted to confirm that you didn't release any tension in your garage door when tacking the bottom bracket bolts into the slots above? I just want to make sure I'm understanding 100% before doing this. I understand that this is a dangerous task, and will not blame you if something goes wrong, I just want to ensure that I'm proceeding as carefully as possible. I will definitely use a vice grip as well, like you suggested.
@@slayer2580 Hello again. Yes, that is correct. No tension was taken off the cables. One or two tap screws were loosen. And with a flat head screwdriver simply pry gently on the bottom plate to slide in the bottom retainer. Hope this helps. Stay safe out there.
Great video! Thanks to you, I actually did it!. Of course, I am left on my own to finish because I will need to reason out a way to "tuck in the ends". I mean, do I cut lengthwise to make them fit easier, or do i just try to sutff them in straight? I guess I need to think. LOL Thank sgain.
Thank you for this video! One question: how can I straighten the bottom of a slightly bent garage door so that I can re-install the retainer (it is already off the garage door) with a new weatherseal? Thanks!
Hello! Bending a bottom garage door section is very difficult and in most cases not possible based on some damage to particular doors. Thus I suggest utilizing going with a L-shaped bottom retainer. This type of retainer can hide a bent door section when applied.
@@sosgds Well, that answers my next question because I have the same problem and I was avoiding having to use the L shaped bottom retainer, LOL. I didn't want my brother to fork out more money because he already paid dearly to replace the garage door!
@@sosgds Hi again! Do you recommend a particular L-shaped bottom retainer that would keep rodents out? Would the retainer simply attach by screws (or super strong adhesive) to the inside of the garage door, accepting the slight bend? My existing retainer has a track that inserts into bottom of door but since it is bent slightly would be very difficult (or impossible) to reinstall. thanks!
That's a great question. The door will raise about an inch with a new retainer/seal. You won't need to adjust the height of the door, but you will need to adjust the open and close travel to the motor. Hope this helps!
On the bottom side of a retainer can Teks (hex head self-tapping) screws be used or do the screw heads have to be pan head? I'm going to use a weather seal type with the tube inside of it
Hello! Yes you can use a hex screw that's self tapping. That should not be a problem. And I usually try and find a small as possible head screw so that way it does not cut open the seal when it closes. Hope that helps.
@@sosgds Yes (4x for 16' door, just need to cut one shorter). I just wasn't sure if it was necessary to seal the side edges of each piece when it butts up to the next
I'm having a difficult time finding the correct rubber retainer. The T-channels are not the regular 5/16. I already tried Lowes and HD and nothing. Mine takes half the size of 5/16 T. How do I know what kind od door I have. It looks pretty commercial, uninsulated and two inches wide on bottom. It had two grooves for the new seal IF I ever find one.
Hello. This is irregular. Standard T-Channel bottom seals will work on most T-Channel aluminum retainers. What exactly is the 5/16th measurement of? Is it the actual seal width?
I'm trying to replace mine but found that plate on the bottom of each side of the door that has a cable attached is blocking the ends of the channels to slide the seal out. Any recommendations?
If you do have cables connected to your bottom end brackets then you truly want to reach out to a professional. Those cables are under a lot of tension because they connect to the torsion spring system. Thus you would need to release all the weight of the door to be able to get to that bottom section and be able to take off and install the new bottom weather seal. I wish this process was a lot simpler for you, but based on your comment it's much more difficult.
@@sosgds that's what I figured. I went to go look at mine after watching the video and found the bracket blocking the ends of the tracks. Then noticed a cable attached to that bracket and said no thanks I'm not getting hit with that
Hi again, wondering what type of L-shaped bottom retainer (with something to keep out weather and critters) you would recommend? I need something that will bend slightly to accommodate for slightly bent bottom panel. Are there strong adhesive-mounted or screw-mounted retainers that might work? Thanks so much for the help.
Hello again! Here's a plastic retainer with a seal that more malleable. It's not my favor seal/retainer combo but it should work with a warped or bent bottom section. Hope this helps! www.northshorecommercialdoor.com/gadobowesere1.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAq7COBhC2ARIsANsPATH7UqPMzX5S0_rqniBXDqIIyOv5VHfXa4BSCO_F4KmT2w_Qdq1r3h4aAhmpEALw_wcB
What do you think? Unique "24 gauge" pan door vs Amarr Lincoln 1000 25ga door.... which non-insulated door is a better deal? I see that Unique doesn't even have a service phone number to call, so that might outweigh the better hardware they use.
Thank you for this great question. I honestly don't think unique's garage door is better than Amarr's. But I also don't think that Amarr would my first choice. If you're familiar with unique and you're in the local area the garage door that I think is worth considering is from 1st United. 1st United is out over in Ontario california. And their 24 gauge is way better built than Unique garage doors 24 gauge. I actually think the 25 gauge from 1st United is a better door than Unique's 24 gauge. CHI is also another good one. Thanks for the feedback! I hope this helps in your search for a new door.
I have some dings in the receiver and some rust. Spent $100 for a new seal that has the right track shape. It would not slide. We are trying to use a screw driver to pull it in the track- slow process. We are putting another rubber seal on the floor
Wow, that sounds frustrating. Some seals need a little bit of lube to slide on through. If the lube does not work, then you might have an issue with the bottom retainer.
Follow up to my post below: I just re-examined the seal/retainer with a flashlight. I now appears the manufacturer took the sheet metal the formed the back of the panel and brought the edge down past the bottom of the door, then folded it towards the front, and crimped the edge closest to the front of the garage door to make the single channel for the seal to go into. NO way of removing the existing channel as it appears to be part of the sheet metal of the back of the door. Still looking for advice.
Hello! Wow that does sound unusual. Was the older rubber seal hard to take off? Most bottom retainers are removable. Thus you should have the ability to remove it. Are you able to email me pictures? The in the "About" portion of my TH-cam channel you should be able to email me. I would to see pictures of what you are describing.
I went to replace my bottom garage door weather seal, only to discover it has a single retainer channel which appears at least, to be molded to the front edge of the bottom of the garage door. I had only pulled it half off before I saw this. The new track has dual tracks to retain the new seal but since the existing channel appears to be part of the bottom of the garage, not sure what to do. I can't install the new track because the old track occupies some of the width of the bottom, and now I can't get the old track back in until I come up with an answer. Any thoughts?
What did you end up doing? I'm in the same boat. I bought double track weather stripping on Amazon, but when I removed the old weather stripping, I realized that my garage door has a single track setup. Now I'm stuck. Is it possible to replace a single track retainer with a double track retainer? The single track weather stripping options that I see online seem smaller overall and guessing might not be as good. I'm hoping you can help me out. Thanks in advance!
I can definitely tell the second garage door you did to replace the bottom retainer the weather seal on the outside the door might need to be replaced pretty soon because it’s turning all yellow and I could see some cracking
Didn't watch the whole video. 20 minutes, I was just looking for the tuck in. I'm sure it was a good video but I was waiting for seeing how you finished the ends
@@sosgds I don’t know the brand. I just called out someone like you to save me. Had to take off the entire track to get that seal out! Haha. All good now. Your video was a great help!!
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Lucky me I found your video. Was struggling to find a seal for an old door til I saw your well explained video. Thanks a 1000!
You're welcome 1000!
great explanation, I have a Thermacore 190 door. is it possible to replace the existing bulb style retainer with a universal retainer so I can get a "beefyer" type universal seal?
Thank you for the question. Is the Thermacore a tongue and groove section?
@@sosgds thanks fo rthe reply. YES, its a Thermacore a tongue and groove. is it possible to replace the existing bulb style retainer with a universal retainer so I can get a "beefyer" type universal seal? Maybe even screw a universal retainer over the top?
This video by far is the best I have reviewed for my DIY project. The Best!
So helpful, thank you! Needed to remove my old retainers to prep for new and wasn’t sure how to handle the bolts in order to keep tension. This showed me perfectly! All done now on my 3 car! Yeahhh me! Much appreciation to you.
Hello! I am grateful you got done safely.
this was a very helpful video. well explained and with detailed comments that speak well of the installation technician. thank you.
I'm glad it was helpful. Stay safe!
Just did this last night. What a chore. Previous owner screwed them down. While I was at it, I replaced the rollers and hinges.
Good and informative video. I have one question though. The installer described how he was folding -in the ends of the excess seal on each end, but did not mention why he was doing it that way and how he did it nor why instead of trimming the excess end pieces off. What is the purpose of leaving the short excess piece and why and how do you fold it in?
Does this prevent insects and rodents from getting inside the open space of the tube?
thats good advice i will try it soon, thanks
Thanks for your instructional video. I viewed several w/s replacing videos; only you provided the cautionary statement saying that removing the bottom roller would cause harm. ❤
Another fantastic informative video.. Wow that was a nightmare change out. Great job fighting through it. I appreciate the time you take to make these videos
Thank you Cody! I appreciate the feedback. I'm curious your thought on my unboxing video of the 3120L. Do y'all install that motor?
@@sosgds nope we don't install them probably just because of the price point. But we do install the 3120h so the main part of the opener is perfect . I was kinda hoping it would be brighter,, but at least you can get the special leds through lowes or home depot.. unlike liftmasters which is an expensive led pod. I can't wait to see your review of it though!
12 minutes ALONE this is soooo easy
any suggestions for if the bottom retainer/rubber scrapes against the wall when opening/closing?
Yes. It might be beneficial to smooth down the door jamb. When a house settles, the door jambs tend to move. Even just a little smoothing should help.
How did I miss this one!! Love what your doing.
😁👍👊💯
What size screws did you use? I need to fix my brother's bottom retainer, too because it fell off and when I checked under his garage door and the retainer I was shocked to see that there were no drill holes anywhere so I wondered if the guys who recently installed his new garage door forgot to drill it in place? As a result, my brother's bottom retainer has a little dent on it that needs to be straightened out and drilled on the bottom of his garage door. My older brother is too weak to do it so, I'm going to do it for him. Thank you for posting this video; it's a life saver for my brother! Your instructions are very clear and you make it look easy!
Hello. I'm so sorry to hear that about your brother's garage door. It's really not a hard process if you use the right screws. What you're basically looking for are small one and a quarter or one and a half inch tap screws. I prefer to go with the smaller hex screws but you can also go with a Philips head screw. And because you'll be applying the screws under the bottom of the door you can be generous with how many you use. Basically you want to make sure it's secure and that the retainer is firmly established. Hope that helps!
@@sosgds Yes it does thank you very much! Happy Holidays! :)
Hi there, thanks so much for your informative video! My retainer track is a P-Body style, and the retainer does not have access from the side to slide a new weather seal into. I have to pull one side of the retainer down so that I can access the track. My retainer is similar to yours, it's fastened on each end with two bolts running through each bottom bracket. If I unfasten each bolt one at a time, and tack into the slotting above each bolt, the bottom bracket should be free from any danger, correct? It's not going to fly off if I follow the steps you followed? Each bolt is fastened very sturdily, so I gathered from your video that it should be okay to remove one bolt, attach it to the slotting above, and then remove the other bolt, and attach it above as well. Thanks!
Hello. Please, please, please be careful doing anything with the bottom brackets. As a professional we try to work under the safest conditions to not injure ourselves. Thus I highly recommend outsourcing the help of a local contractor to assist you with that need. When I list the door I apply at least one vice grip under one of the rollers to ensure the door does not suddenly fall. Additionally, I wear the proper PPE, especially for my eyes just in case the bracket suddenly breaks off. I hope this helps.
Thanks for your timely response! I plan on doing this as safely as possible, but wanted to confirm that you didn't release any tension in your garage door when tacking the bottom bracket bolts into the slots above? I just want to make sure I'm understanding 100% before doing this. I understand that this is a dangerous task, and will not blame you if something goes wrong, I just want to ensure that I'm proceeding as carefully as possible. I will definitely use a vice grip as well, like you suggested.
@@slayer2580 Hello again. Yes, that is correct. No tension was taken off the cables. One or two tap screws were loosen. And with a flat head screwdriver simply pry gently on the bottom plate to slide in the bottom retainer. Hope this helps. Stay safe out there.
Would it be better if I get the screws with mollies?
Great video! Thanks to you, I actually did it!. Of course, I am left on my own to finish because I will need to reason out a way to "tuck in the ends".
I mean, do I cut lengthwise to make them fit easier, or do i just try to sutff them in straight? I guess I need to think.
LOL Thank sgain.
Hello! Glad the video helped. You can do either or. I tuck them in just so that way the new seal does not wear as quick.
Thanks for the video. To install a new retainer, do you need to buy the exact size of the width of the garage door? Or can it be a little bigger?
Hello. Although you can cut a bottom retainer, it's best to find one that will fit the exact width of the door.
thanks@@sosgds
Any idea what type of weather stripping goes on an Amarr Olympus 500 door? None of the common ones really work….
Great question. Can you confirm for me if the Olympus is an insulated garage door?
Thank you! It has an r value of 13.35. There doesn’t seem to be an easy way to replace the bottom retainer either.
There should be an L-Shaped bottom aluminum retainer that has a T-Shaped channel.
Would you please give me a link to order a garage door bottom retainer! Thank you!
Hello. I would be happy to help, but first can you tell me what type of garage door you have? Not all garage door retainers fit all garage doors.
@@sosgds Clopay double garage door 16ft x 8ft aluminium bottom retainer.
Good job!
Thank you for this video! One question: how can I straighten the bottom of a slightly bent garage door so that I can re-install the retainer (it is already off the garage door) with a new weatherseal? Thanks!
Hello! Bending a bottom garage door section is very difficult and in most cases not possible based on some damage to particular doors. Thus I suggest utilizing going with a L-shaped bottom retainer. This type of retainer can hide a bent door section when applied.
@@sosgds Well, that answers my next question because I have the same problem and I was avoiding having to use the L shaped bottom retainer, LOL. I didn't want my brother to fork out more money because he already paid dearly to replace the garage door!
@@sosgds Hi again! Do you recommend a particular L-shaped bottom retainer that would keep rodents out? Would the retainer simply attach by screws (or super strong adhesive) to the inside of the garage door, accepting the slight bend? My existing retainer has a track that inserts into bottom of door but since it is bent slightly would be very difficult (or impossible) to reinstall. thanks!
After replacing the retainer and seal, do I have to adjust the height of my garage door?
That's a great question. The door will raise about an inch with a new retainer/seal. You won't need to adjust the height of the door, but you will need to adjust the open and close travel to the motor. Hope this helps!
@@sosgds Thanks a bunch
On the bottom side of a retainer can Teks (hex head self-tapping) screws be used or do the screw heads have to be pan head? I'm going to use a weather seal type with the tube inside of it
Hello! Yes you can use a hex screw that's self tapping. That should not be a problem. And I usually try and find a small as possible head screw so that way it does not cut open the seal when it closes. Hope that helps.
@@sosgds Thank you, yes it does and cutting into the seal was my concern.
@@sosgds one other question--my new retainer came in 4.5' sections. Between each section do I need to caulk or put sealant?
@@ChmodX Hello. So let me make sure I'm understanding you. They sent you two 4 1/2 foot retainers for your 8 foot wide door?
@@sosgds Yes (4x for 16' door, just need to cut one shorter). I just wasn't sure if it was necessary to seal the side edges of each piece when it butts up to the next
I'm having a difficult time finding the correct rubber retainer. The T-channels are not the regular 5/16. I already tried Lowes and HD and nothing. Mine takes half the size of 5/16 T. How do I know what kind od door I have. It looks pretty commercial, uninsulated and two inches wide on bottom. It had two grooves for the new seal IF I ever find one.
Hello. This is irregular. Standard T-Channel bottom seals will work on most T-Channel aluminum retainers.
What exactly is the 5/16th measurement of? Is it the actual seal width?
I'm trying to replace mine but found that plate on the bottom of each side of the door that has a cable attached is blocking the ends of the channels to slide the seal out. Any recommendations?
If you do have cables connected to your bottom end brackets then you truly want to reach out to a professional. Those cables are under a lot of tension because they connect to the torsion spring system. Thus you would need to release all the weight of the door to be able to get to that bottom section and be able to take off and install the new bottom weather seal. I wish this process was a lot simpler for you, but based on your comment it's much more difficult.
@@sosgds that's what I figured. I went to go look at mine after watching the video and found the bracket blocking the ends of the tracks. Then noticed a cable attached to that bracket and said no thanks I'm not getting hit with that
what gloves are you using ?
I honestly can't remember. I go through so many gloves monthly.
Hi again, wondering what type of L-shaped bottom retainer (with something to keep out weather and critters) you would recommend? I need something that will bend slightly to accommodate for slightly bent bottom panel. Are there strong adhesive-mounted or screw-mounted retainers that might work? Thanks so much for the help.
Hello again! Here's a plastic retainer with a seal that more malleable. It's not my favor seal/retainer combo but it should work with a warped or bent bottom section. Hope this helps!
www.northshorecommercialdoor.com/gadobowesere1.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAq7COBhC2ARIsANsPATH7UqPMzX5S0_rqniBXDqIIyOv5VHfXa4BSCO_F4KmT2w_Qdq1r3h4aAhmpEALw_wcB
Perfect thank you!
You're welcome!
Hard to believe you made such a easy job look so hard. If you had taken out the old seal properly you would not have had to replace the retainer. Wow!
I'm a believer! Thanks for the feedback!
Mine doesn't seem to fit onto the rail. Any suggestions?
There are several sizes of T and P channel on the market. You have to get the correct type nd size of seal to fit your channel.
What do you think?
Unique "24 gauge" pan door vs Amarr Lincoln 1000 25ga door.... which non-insulated door is a better deal?
I see that Unique doesn't even have a service phone number to call, so that might outweigh the better hardware they use.
Thank you for this great question. I honestly don't think unique's garage door is better than Amarr's. But I also don't think that Amarr would my first choice. If you're familiar with unique and you're in the local area the garage door that I think is worth considering is from 1st United. 1st United is out over in Ontario california. And their 24 gauge is way better built than Unique garage doors 24 gauge. I actually think the 25 gauge from 1st United is a better door than Unique's 24 gauge. CHI is also another good one. Thanks for the feedback! I hope this helps in your search for a new door.
I have some dings in the receiver and some rust. Spent $100 for a new seal that has the right track shape. It would not slide. We are trying to use a screw driver to pull it in the track- slow process. We are putting another rubber seal on the floor
Wow, that sounds frustrating. Some seals need a little bit of lube to slide on through. If the lube does not work, then you might have an issue with the bottom retainer.
silicone lubricant will not damage rubber like normal petroleum based lubes.
Follow up to my post below: I just re-examined the seal/retainer with a flashlight. I now appears the manufacturer took the sheet metal the formed the back of the panel and brought the edge down past the bottom of the door, then folded it towards the front, and crimped the edge closest to the front of the garage door to make the single channel for the seal to go into. NO way of removing the existing channel as it appears to be part of the sheet metal of the back of the door. Still looking for advice.
Hello! Wow that does sound unusual. Was the older rubber seal hard to take off? Most bottom retainers are removable. Thus you should have the ability to remove it. Are you able to email me pictures? The in the "About" portion of my TH-cam channel you should be able to email me. I would to see pictures of what you are describing.
I went to replace my bottom garage door weather seal, only to discover it has a single retainer channel which appears at least, to be molded to the front edge of the bottom of the garage door. I had only pulled it half off before I saw this. The new track has dual tracks to retain the new seal but since the existing channel appears to be part of the bottom of the garage, not sure what to do. I can't install the new track because the old track occupies some of the width of the bottom, and now I can't get the old track back in until I come up with an answer. Any thoughts?
What did you end up doing? I'm in the same boat. I bought double track weather stripping on Amazon, but when I removed the old weather stripping, I realized that my garage door has a single track setup. Now I'm stuck.
Is it possible to replace a single track retainer with a double track retainer? The single track weather stripping options that I see online seem smaller overall and guessing might not be as good.
I'm hoping you can help me out. Thanks in advance!
Where can I purchase a retainer
Hello. You might be able to find them at Northwest Door Supply or DDM Garage Doors. They ship national.
I can definitely tell the second garage door you did to replace the bottom retainer the weather seal on the outside the door might need to be replaced pretty soon because it’s turning all yellow and I could see some cracking
I absolutely hate doing these. How much do you charge for this job? Love your channel man.
Hello. Thank you! In Southern California it can start at $195 and go up from there. It will also depend on the bottom retainer.
You tucked the excess...would like to see where/how you tucked it. I haven't started yet, but I can't imagine where you would tucked the excess.
I just glue the new seal on the floor after I took the seal off under the garage door. It was not going in so that's what I did. :)
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@@sosgds it seems to do the same thing. The new one is much thicker too. Lol
Didn't watch the whole video. 20 minutes, I was just looking for the tuck in. I'm sure it was a good video but I was waiting for seeing how you finished the ends
Thanks for the feedback. I do have other videos where I show I tuck in the excess seal.
Imagine if you told people what your spray lube was…
Hello. Any nonstick silicone lube should work fine.
I can’t get this seal off to save my life 😭😭
Hello. Do you know what brand of garage door you have? Are you able to send pictures of your garage door seal?
@@sosgds I don’t know the brand. I just called out someone like you to save me. Had to take off the entire track to get that seal out! Haha. All good now. Your video was a great help!!
I vomited three times trying to watch the video. Dang motion sickness! Good video though otherwise.
I should provide Dramamine pills for viewers. Thanks for the feedback!
Horrible camera work. Sea sick.
I have no sea legs. Thanks for the feedback!