The STAKES for Each Superstar This Season (WEST)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video, I break down my thoughts on the best case AND worst case outcome for each superstar player in the conference.
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Which West Superstar will have a massive shift in how we view his legacy??
Kawhi Leonard
@@afroabe520you think clippers win this year?
Kevin Durant
Luka he will win it all, not a Dallas Guy (although I like Luka) but I think the additions they made this offseason plus improved chemistry between Luka and Kyrie will be enough
Brother older or younger consider MJ the goat I’m 25 I’m not dumb to consider lebron. Even young players know who the goat is. And I didn’t watch MJ play but I have seen a lot of videos documentaries and TH-camrs like you talk about MJ and how great he was.
It's going to be the breakout season for LeBroooon James, the young, up-and-coming superstar in the league, him and Wemby gonna be fun to watch in the future
He looked pretty nice in the g league! I see potential in both of them!
@@BrayanSaverinoLebron is going to be a bust Wemby should be nice tho
this comment deserves more likes and comments
@@rdubb6592he can’t come back after being swept with the lame GOAT stats he put up
I thought I was high when I heard that too😂😂😶🌫️
I admire your videos😍😍😍😍😍
I find your lack of Dillon Brooks, disturbing.
I think the Greek freak gets a break because he hurt his back and the coaches brother died during that series.
"Winning", as in finishing in first place, is NOT everything. In a big marathon race, there might be 30,000 runners who finish - EVERY ONE OF THEM IS A WINNER. In MJ's best 10 seasons, he won 6 Chips and didn't even make the Finals (didn't even finish 2nd) in the other four. In LBJ's best 10 seasons (so far), he made 10 Finals. Those "2nd place" finishes (#1 among the 15 teams in his respective conference) positively count for a lot. They MUST count for a lot more than the 4 years that MJ did not even make it to the Finals.
By way of example: Jerry West lost in the Finals 8 times. But because he made it that far, this is a huge part of the reason why most people consider him one of the greatest players ever. LBJ made it to 8 Finals in a row; in three of those he lost to the virtually unbeatable (except by a team with him on it) GS Warriors - and in two of THOSE, he lost to easily THE greatest team of all time: the Steph-KD Warriors.
This "If you don't finish first, you lost!" argument is THE most bankrupt argument ever: there are ZERO players or teams who would rather lose in an earlier playoff round than lose in the Finals. There are ZERO players who'd rather not make the play-offs than lose in the first round. ie., the further you/your team advances, the better. That's just basic logic.
Lmao I completely forgot chet holmgren existed
I wanna CP get a ring, but mostly I wanna see Curry get his 5th
none of the players mentioned in the video won the MVP award in the rookie season
I don't see the sun's winning it all, but even if they do win it all, kd still has to win it with a loaded roster
The biggest winner for me would be Steph and KD as their careers would skyrocket if they win a ring. Steph would definitely be in the top 10 all-time convo and KD would be close to that as well. The biggest loser would be LeBron, why? Because of the never ending GOAT debate. Imagine, heading into your 21st season and then turning 39 in a few months time and he's still being held on the highest standard wherein nothing but a championship would stop everyone from slandering him, heck even if he wins I know someone would still downplay it. MJ is still the GOAT whether you're a lebron fan or not, but I believe he's got nothing to prove and he's on the mount rushmore regardless.
You are tripping dawg Steph is already ahead of kobe and Duncan in the all time list, he is easily top 7 and neither kobe or Duncan are in there
@@4THA yh no LeBron in the top 2 is just a wrong list and I imagine u are very much delusional
@@4THA AAHHAHAHA U do not know ball, Lebron literally left Cleveland and joined the heat that had a loosing record the year before, went back to cleveland that was the worst team in the league for the previous years and then went to La that had the worst record in the league the year before he joined, get ur facts straight
@@4THA no ok u actually have a severe mental problem mb for arguing with you
@@nicco6020you bumped your head kid
Shai is not a superstar yet. He has shown some potential but he needs to prove that he can put up numbers that leads to wins. He also needs to show up in the playoffs before he can be crowned a superstar.
I just want my favorite player kawhi , to be fully healthy for a playoff run. Ring number 3 would be so amazing 🔥 but I'm not getting my hopes up
keep dreaming buddy
It’s hard being a Kawhi fan, especially when your also a spurs fan lol
Lol 25% chance that happens
When he wae healthy he choked a 3-1 lead to the Nuggets
Yeah, I just want to see him play at that level again, I miss prime Kawhi.
“Young and developing superstar, Lebron James.” 😂😂
Honestly I just want Kawhi to show everyone why hes one of the best. He doesnt have to win a title but to go out as the all-time playoff preformer he is would be enough for me.
Id prefer a ring but i dont expect it, i just want to be able to watch Kawhi play in the playoffs without the basketball gods constantly throwing injuries at him
Crazy that despite his success, Kawhi is still a what-if story
Tbh, if they even get to the Conference Finals, that will probably be good enough for most people I guess.
Even if they get to the finals and lose, that's a big moment for that franchise alone
@@richborn6700 I agree. I'm just a little tired of the narratives people are running with and everyone diminishing his skill because of his injuries
If Chris Paul can get one with warriors and show up in the playoffs it'll be HUGE
No it won’t. Hell at most go up a spot to be in that spot between Jason Kidd and Nash.
@@TheIcemanthomasfr, if anything that would prove he needed from his competition help, so he ain't better than Steph all time
@@TheIcemanthomashe would be on par or better than kidd since kidd ring was won as a role player too, i'd say he already is on par with Nash and maybe a lil better than stockton already
If he did it with PHX it would have been huge. A win now would be mid.
@@duyanhng8430 that’s my point. He won’t move up much if any unless he does something significant to help win. His legacy is sealed. I’ve always had him somewhere between 8-12 without a chip. Winning one at most moves him to 6-9 imo. Now had he won in 18 or 21 then it’s a whole different story.
Dawg if Steph wins #5 that shit would break the internet 😂🤚🏽
he would be in everyone's top 10. and the Magic and Curry debate would escalate even more.
The really interesting thing would be the amount of people trying to vault him ahead of LeBron. lol. Bron and Curry fans would be at each others throats more than ever
@@jonnyarnett Yeah, as a diehard steph fan, he will never pass bron, but he could potentially pass kareem, but only if he wins 2 more rings
I just want Nikola Jokic to do well. He is an amazing player and if he can continue breaking records year in, and year out, then he has a run to be one of the be best players of all time!
He is boring and passionless. I want Giannis to win. He's better at half the game and has PASSION
I love jokic but I wished he had more heart in the game. But he’s play style is perfect.
Jokic is one of the best players we’ve seen in a while, but I have to agree with some of the others, his don’t-care attitude is kinda grating. Just makes for a boring player and a personality-lacking team.
@@Earl_TheSquirrelLMAO. Giannis can’t guard Jokic 1 on 1 and vice versa. If defense is a non factor between the two, the better player has to have offensive skills. Giannis has 0 bag, Jokic is way more skilled.
At this moment, who do you think is greater? LARRY BIRD -or- NIKOLA JOKIC?
Considering AD, I found that he was already the best Lakers during last playoffs. His defense was the main reason they won against the Warriors and the Grizzlies.
definitely. bron was also clearly not 100% due to his foot injurie but even if he was, AD would have still been the best lakers player. he basically shifted the entire match plan for each playoff opponent and could only be stopped by an absolute historic jokic performance.
@@peterpan3022 Mmmm, not really. I love AD as a player and think he belongs solidly in the NBA elite, but he hasn't been better than Lebron James anytime while in the team, and I really think he has played below his potential, more so while on the Lakers playing alongside James. I see it as if he has adapted to a role in which he's not going to put best of the team and best of the league performances, but still has done it amazingly well.
it's been like that since 2020 tho...Bron won fmvp and people act like he was way above Ad like Ad is just his Pau Gasol or Pippen or somethin', when Ad literally averaged 28+ in the playoffs with bunch of monster 30+ double doubles and game changing defense... people just overlook Ad's presence too much since he got there but in reality he was arguably their best player from the start, his production just went down during the finals before the injury but in their first few games he was literally the front runner for the fmvp, maybe he respects Bron a lot that's why he tried to set back his aggression and let Bron be the main guy that time
If AD was chosen FMVP in the bubble, i wouldn't complain. He was as good as LBJ on those playoffs.
But since then he got much worse, improved a bit last season but it's still unreliable.
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Idk about all that, but I'm flattered! lol. Thanks for always tuning in :)
Luka deserves better than what Dallas is giving him, it’s hard out here
Lebron is #1 all time in total points scored in the RS, but only slightly ahead of Kareem. This season he has the chance to gather 40k. While that wouldn´t have much impact on the Lebron vs. Jordan debate, I do think that this will be another unique and mind-boggling achievement, adding to his legacy.
He also has the chance to cement his status as the turnover king. Truly the goat.
It won’t change much if anything to anyone but his Stan’s. It’s cool. But that’s about it.
@@grog3514🤡ish comment from you stop hating ✌️
@@michaelsevilla3697 where's the lie? 😊
@@michaelsevilla3697oh yes because averaging 4turnovers per game = 30ppg, 6apg 6rpg and decent defensive stats. lmao stop saying this like the turnovers impact is even close to the impact of everything else that’s positive ☠️😹
If Dallas doesn't make the playoffs, I think it'll hurt Kyrie's stock, but it won't do anything to Luka.
Hell yea it will hurt Luka, he MVP caliper every year and last year seen the biggest downfall where didn't even make playin
Lol, you Luka fans are so funny, you compare him to Lebron, but if a 24yo Lebron had a prime Kyrie their would be no excuses for him to not make the Finals, let alone not make the playoffs 😂 It’s crazy the double standard with Lebron, according to some people the CAVS with a young Kyrie (21-24yo) and a declining K.Love as a 3rd option was a superteam 😂 But when Giannis has a prime Dame who is much better than Kyrie+ the DPOY front runner Brook Lopez one of the best stretch 5+ an ALL STAR who was the closer on a championship team in 2021 Middleton, it’s not a superteam 😂I just don’t understand, some even say the SUNS aren’t a superteam lol, even when Ayton was supposed to be on the team you had people saying its not a superteam lol, Booker is literally on the verge of becoming a Top 5 player, he was better than KD and anybody except Jokic in the playoffs, Beal was a 30ppg scorer, and Ayton a 1st draft pick, and they had the audacity to tell me its not a superteam ? 😂If the SUNS aren’t a superteam then the Lebron HEAT weren’t a superteam lol, Booker and Beal are much better than post 2012 Wade and Bosh, and its also a better fit, Lebron never had the opportunity to play with a guy who really fit with him like Giannis with Dame, KD with Curry and vice versa, KD with Harden and vice versa, or even Jokic and Murray. The only guy who really fit with Bron is AD and he only had 1 true great season with him, just imagine if Lebron had AD between 2015 and now but AD was only injured 1 or 2 seasons… It would have been like Kobe who had the privilege to play with a prime Shaq for 8 years, except Lebron would be Shaq in this senario because he is better than AD, just like Shaq was better than Kobe … Lebron would probably have 6+ chips, but no since 2015 he only had 2 seasons with Kyrie and Love (Both injured in 2015 Finals, and Kyrie left in 2018) and 1 and a half season with AD … People will look at the names he play with and forget these players weren’t even playing most of the time lol, i’d rather have a prime Shaq for 8 years and then just a bunch of role players for 12 years than what Lebron had, if Lebron had a prime Shaq in his first 8 seasons he would already have 4 chip easily lol, just imagine a young Lebron with fresh legs and unreal athleticism+ prime Shaq, man that would be scary, at least if i was their opponents i would be scared af, that’s the 2 most dominant rim finisher ever and 2 most physically imposing players ever, after the serie every team would feel like they fought 12 rounds with a prime Mike Tyson lol
@Anthonydu01630 who's talking about LeBron? I'm a Lakers fan btw.🤣
Kareem won a title at 40, who's to say Lebron can't do the same?
i dont know who is gonna win the mvp, the only thing i know for sure is, Jokic will deserve it once again
He's got a good chance. After the Embiid win last year, I believe a lot of people might vote for Jokic in a close race, as a bit of a make-up call
@@jonnyarnett he might be the first player to benefit from his own voter's fatigue
Love what you do man. I've become a basketball professor of sorts since I ran into your channel 8 months ago. This is the earliest I've watched any of your video 😂
Well I appreciate it! I don't ever wanna stop making these videos, so I'm glad you're along for the ride :)
@@jonnyarnett because you like money🤣🤣
Lol, yes…. But also basketball 😂👍
Can u do a video of top 10 all time nba goats! but compare them to greek gods for example mj is zeus
Rooting for Ja to turn it around. Both for himself, but also for the overall well-being of the league.
This. Hadn't it been for the recent downfall his personal troubles have gotten his career into, I don't think Jonny would've missed putting him in this analysis. Until just the beginning of this year it was clear he was into an all time great path. He is an amazing superstar caliber player, insanely good.
Unfortunately, I don’t think he learned his lesson.
winning a title would absolute be huge for Lebron this year, especially if he was still to be the best player on the team. No other player has been the best player on a title team within several years of his current age, it would be historic and do a ton to cement his legacy as the player with the greatest longevity ever
I wouldn’t blow it up with Luka and Kyrie this soon. The Mavs just have to get better supporting cast for those superstars, A decent to great big would help a lot
I think KD is in a lose-lose situation.
Because if he wins, people will view him as the one who won with another super team.
But if he loses, his legacy will be he couldn't win w/o Steph even if he's in another super team.
the suns aint a superteam
Yes people will make an excuse for him saying he can't win without 2 allstars@@Flameb0
I find it odd that Devin Booker just had two consecutive postseasons where he performed better than Durant, yet we're still viewing KD as the better player. Heck, they were on the same team this past season and Booker was better at everything besides rebounding - while seeing the same level (or higher) of defense. I don't think a Finals win does anything for KD, except say "he can fit on great teams". In addition to Booker, Pheonix also has the runnerup scoring champ from 2 seasons ago. The role players aren't bad either, The Suns are poised to be as good as 2018 GSW - certainly better than KD's 2016 OKC
It’s because social media hates booker
I really want to see westbrook put up numbers this season I know he isn't the best player on his team or even close anymore but I need to see him get a ring he's. My favorite of all time
Same bro. Feels like i'd sell my soul to see him win atp lmao
I just wanna see a Mavs Bucks Finals and a Mavs Nuggets 7 game series
Bucks in 6
@@emanuelrouson676heat in 5
@@emanuelrouson676 mavs would have to get waaaay better to take the nuggets to 7 games
@@benlazzopina-wy9om Luka could just turn into Michael Jordan real quick
@@emanuelrouson676 yea and kyrie gonna turn into 2018 bron then theyd take it to 7 😂
How would LeBron’s legacy stay the same? We will literally be talking about a guy that’s TWENTY ONE YEARS into the league, leading a team to another title. Something literally never done before, or even dreamed of.
still, most ppl having him behind mj would not change that view. and he is pretty solidely viewed as either no 1 or 2 all time. so to be no 1, he would have to clearly surpass mj and one more title wouldnt do it for the ppl that dont view him as no 1 already.
Longevity is expected today so who cares
Well said.
Exactly if any other player did that they would be universally praised.
CP3 has the most to gain in the west
I feel like Kyrie has a lot to gain and lose in this season. He is considered a pariah at this point in a good number of people's head. The narrative being he is all time great player skill wise but because of his attitude he holds teams back. At this point people believe the only reason he won his only ring is because LeBron's strong leadership helped keep him focused and in check. A great season and a deep run this year in the playoffs could help to rebuilding his image as a winner. If Dallas struggles to be competitive a lot of blame will get pushed on Kyrie being a curse and he may find himself in a situation where teams are hesitant to bring him on.
Personally I would love Jokic to get another ring. A small market dynasty that doesn't run a super team sounds like a dream in the NBA right now.
And of course CP3 finally getting his championship is always something I hope for. The man deserves a ring and he is definitely on the team to help get him there.
And then I would also love for the Clippers to potentially get one. Paul, Kwahi, and Westbrook all getting a ring would be amazing. Westbrook getting a vengeance ring after the way he was treated as a Laker would be even better.
KD winning a 3rd title and Phoenix’s first would be crazy. Especially at 35
Pray for health 😁
It would help if he wore smaller shoes
This is the earliest I've been to anything my entire life.
Kawhi should already be top 30 all time. If he had 3 chips, 3 fmvps, couple of dpoy's... bringing it home to both Clips and Raptors... that's a top 15ish, bare minimum resume. He's a 2 way player too, last of a dying breed. I swear he gets so underrated by narratives and media hate
Are 2 way players really a dying breed? I mean we had Kobe, Jason Kidd, Wade, Lebron, CP3, PG and Kawhi in the past but there are up and coming players like Tatum, Shai, Jaylen Brown etc and not to mention the ones that are already in their prime like Giannis and AD. The thing thats just skewing things these days is that many of the new superstars are defensively meh guards but its just a blip.
@@aaanawaleh kawhi isnt even a real 2 way player anymore. hes not bad on defense but he is miles away from his dpoy level from years ago
Whole lotta what ifs, nah
@@peterpan3022I get this take, but you can’t tell me there’s more than a couple dozen players out there right now who wouldn’t want him facing them on defense. He is still an elite defender, he just isn’t gonna kill himself on both ends of the floor, cuz availability is his biggest issue.
Thanks Jonny!
Just wanna help the video
crazy western conference tbh
Accurately right about lbj if anything if AD wins a ring it'll hype up his career 😉 more so than lbj 😂 because like you said 20+ years in the game win or lose his name pretty much stays the same but with AD being younger winning another ring would do a lot for his career assuming he'll stay healthy
Jokic has nothing left to prove. He brought a title to Denver that Dikembe, AI, Carmelo and English could not do.
I think SGA has the most to gain, because OKC could well advance in the playoffs, not just make it. Based on expectations, he has nothing to lose at all.
I did not realize he’s a year older than Luka though.
OKC is stacked for the next 10 years with this core. They could def be in the running during that window
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Would back to back titles shift our thoughts of Jokic that much? He will move from top 30 to top 20 conversion. If he adds another MVP + FMVP, possibly top 15(?)
Steph, getting #5, would be more impactful than LeBron getting #5. Steph's 5th would move him, definitively, deep into the top 10 next to Kobe. Although the 2010's are over, it would give Steph a feather in his cap over LeBron the last 9 season to have 5 titles to LeBron's 2.
LeBron perhaps solidifies himself in the #2 spot with another title, providing he's the FMVP. He's widely seen as a Mt.Rushmore player (top 4), so he can only move, at best, from 4 to a solid 2. And it would only amplify the 🐐 arguments for LeBron even more. But largely, his legacy is set regardless. AD, another ring + FMVP, moves him into top 20 conversion.
Clippers, Kawhi would move into rare company with LeBron as the only players to win 3 titles with 3 franchises and win FMVP. That would move him into top 15 conversion. But he lacks the cumulative totals to justify top 10, but I'm sure the conversion will be had.
Kevin Durant, this would be HUGE. I have him #12 all-time, but he would move up into top 10 consideration. And remove the "can't win a ring without GSW" label. Booker, like Murray in Denver, I don't think a title adds much to his legacy YET. He's still young and we can see what it unlocks.
i dont think you can have durant top 10 tbh. he can not be over steph even if he wins this year. and even steph top 10 is hugely debatable and most ppl prob wouldnt have him there. no way durant can be top 10 if steph isnt and one title, especially with a team like he has this year, doesnt change that.
@@peterpan3022 That’s why I stated “top 10 consideration” for KD. It would further a conversation, not necessarily solidify his position in the top 10.
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The west is so stacked, the video could easily have been longer if he had included pg13, cp3, and russ, not to mention ant man, kyrie and ja
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Jonny, Steph Curry is a combo guard. Earvin, Isaiah and Stockton were true point guards
Didn’t know combo guard was a position in basketball.
Can’t have it both ways with LeBron. Either he’s old or he’s still elite. Either is fine, but hold him to that standard. Tired of the double-standard that he gets every year.
Steph is a good shooter but he has nothing else. No defense. He had Iguodala, Green, Klay, and KD on his winning rosters. If I'm supposed to not be impressed by KD then I'm not impressed by Steph. All he needed was 1 3 point shot to beat LeBron. Instead he misses almost all of his shots and loses the NBA finals to Kyrie. You have to be clutch to be a greatest of all time. Klay and Damien are just as good at shooting as Steph. The warriors are a great team just like the Bulls and its not 100% MJ or Steph.
Exactly he had 6 perimeter guys who could all switch and playmake lol. Something he couldn't do. I'm tired of his privilege. He never carried a bad team, had deepest rosters and only beat injured teams. Just shot his team out playoffs
Luka has a winning record w a weaker team against him. Luka had a banged up shoulder and still outplayed him in series w weaker team again. Refs let gs foul and bump all the way bc they still needed it to beat Luka. Steph had all the help in world. Never had a weaker roster in playoffs except just now against the freaking Lakers 😂lol. Loser
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Everybody says how loaded the NBA talent is, but only on one side of the ball and shooting 3s or driving to the basket with no rim protectors and certainly no elite rim protectors. They shouldve adapted by now how to defend the 3 and the rim. But it hasnt happened. Its almost like the all star games in the regular season. The playoffs are only slightly better defensively
They havent adapted because thats nearly impossible. You think its easy to get around jokic to contest a murray 3 pointer without leaving jokic open on the short roll with shooters around him? Back in the 2000s when they were shooting long 2s with 3 or 4 guys inside the 3 point line there was a lot less ground to cover. Now as soon as dame, curry or trae cross the half court teams need to be close to them. Try bumping down the roll man only for luka to make a skip pass to the other side of the court to a spot up shooter, only for you to cheat and leave the roll man early and luka fakes the skip pass and hits the big for a dunk. Offense has never been better, so to say defenses are lacking is very misleading
@eduardobranco8349 but I thought they can play zone now? And according to people like Gilbert Arenas, I thought these were athletes that I more genetically evolved? They all got 55" verticals and can run 3.7 40s. But if what you are saying is true, then it's a crappy brand of ball and why the ratings are garbage compared to even 6-7 years ago. Forget the MJ years, they will never see ratings like that again. Why not put 4 people guarding the 3 and leave one under the basket? Force people to shoot 15-20 footers
To bring the fans back and change it something worth watching, move the 3 point line to 30 feet or do away with it entirely. Then it would be more physical and worth watching. Start calling travel and carrying and let the defender at least touch the offensive player. Scoring 30-40 points in todays NBA is like scoring 24 in 2005. That with the out of control contracts has made the NBA, the Not Buying Anything league for old school fans like me
@@SelfResearchedNBAFacts you cant camp under the basket. That would be defensive 3 sec violation, which is something that luka points out that makes scoring easier than in fiba. But even if this strategy worked, that would make basketball even worse to watch than what we currently have. Do you want the majority of shots being taken from 17 feet? You think that would bring in more viewers? You wanna go back to carmelo iso where the offense grinds to a halt so he can take 10 jab steps and pull up from the elbow? Do you wanna watch pistons x spurs in the finals again with the score being 70 x 60? Dont forget that 2000s had a lot of ugly basketball. Even in the 90s, go back to watch jordans last game with the bulls. The jazz would isolate malone and all the other 4 players would all group up together away from him to exploit the illegal defense rules from the 90s. Jordan was called for like 3 or 4 illegal defenses in that game, they were barely allowed to play defense outside of 1v1. Every era has its pros and cons, not one was perfect
That being said, i 100% agree with the traveling and carrying in the nba. If you wanna watch some good basketball, watch barcelona in the euroleague. Laprovitola is balling out, and most of their shots comes after an assist. And they are not even the best team there. Real madrid is by far the best. Check it out and see if you like it
@eduardobranco8349 so why are the ratings so terrible? Every person I talk to considers the NBA as unwatchable. By the game changing, the rules or both, the game is just a bunch of dudes scoring points like it's an ALL Star Game. It just sucks. But if you like it, enjoy. I will save my money and just continue to watch classic games of the past.
The league is jam packed with talent. 😂
On god, lottery teams got like 4 potential all stars on their bench lol
Man, you did streetclothes dirty☠☠☠.
You got me at "the young and developing..." 😂
First of all, Giannis has been dragged through the mud but that's more because it's a few years removed from his ring and he hasn't done much since, so if Jokic was a first round exit this year I don't think it would affect his legacy much
Was he?!? I mean, he made excuses afterwards saying how it wasn’t really a “failure”, and a bunch of people agreed with him, and even said they were “motivated” by it. Lol. ESPN just ranked him as the TOP PLAYER in the league, ahead of Jokic. I’m sure some people were harsh on him, but man, the response was far more underwhelming than what I expected. If LeBron lost in the 1st round as a top seed, people would say it ruined his legacy
If Lebron won a championship and a fmvp in year 21 no way his legacy doesn’t change
That's the best description of AD that I've ever heard😂
Much love. But even if Steph wins another ring. He will never surpass Kobe and Duncan. Bc if defense is a factor then it's not even close.
@@4THA agreed with Kobe > Duncan. My top 5 is a little different. 1)MJ ofc 2) LeBron 3) Kobe 4) Kareem 5)Bird then i got 6) Magic 7) Duncan
Bucks vs Nuggets Finals.
If the Mavs make it to the playoffs with Kyrie playing 70 games, it should silence his haters.
Hi Johnny...on your intro it shows highlight of a superstar...may I ask is the highlight of of Steph and LBJ...is LBJ looking up for Steph?? Just my thoughts though!
I disagree about LeBron. My GOAT is MJ, but another ring at this age, in his 21st season, especially if he somehow did it as the best player, would sway a lot of people in his favour in this debate.
Maybe I'm a hater but I don't think book is or will ever be top 10 🤷🏽♂️. Use to love him and i still respect his game but i just can't see it
Let’s be real here lebron has nothing left to prove. No matter what he does MJ fans will always prefer MJ and James fans will prefer James. He’s def top 2 all time and unanimous top 1 is impossible so unless he fucking goes haywire and commits murder or some shit his legacy is already cemented
i can see okc getting to first round of playoffs, i think holmgren is ready to ball
I think right now there is still a sizeable gap between Jordan and LeBron, but if LeBron wins another ring then that gap becomes WAYYY smaller, nearly neck and neck as to who is the greater player
Im still hoping for the Greek Freak vs The Klaw in the Finals
I fully disagree on lebron part. First some young people ( like me ) have jordan for the goat and some old have lebron.
Then a title at 38 years old and when his team are not favorite will be awesome for his legacy. I am one of maybe the few who thinks the goat debate is actually close and that there is no one clear answer or « no debate « . So a new title at 38, 11 years after his first title and still has the best player, in a era where the nba is full of contenders team and with many superstars, could be a changing point in the goat debate.
Durant Cowardice I from 2016 will Never be Vindicated!!!!
Steph can win 10 rings and he's still no Magic🪄
So many players here that are not superstars. Besides curry, lebron and maybe kd. There is no superstar on the team. Not even kwahi. He once had a great post season but that don’t make you a superstar. Stop calling everyone superstar.
LeBron can win 5 more rings and people will still call Jordan the goat... Let's be real, nothing will change anyone's minds since LeBron came in the league
Grreat video but the KD bit is off. This would be a validation that he doesn't need Curry to win, but make no mistake about it, this is definitely a super team
Giannis would not have beat Kd if kyrie didn’t get hurt so that narrative is horrible. KD was literally destroying them with one legged harden and no Kyrie. Giannis got more to prove
I'm so ready to clown KD when he falls in the playoffs.
He ain't winning a ring without Steph
I heavily disagree for lebron. If he wins another ring and gets finals mvp he would establish himself as the greatest player. To win a ring and finals mvp at his age is unheard of since kareem days and brons even better, if he does it again now he’s def goat and he already has an argument
“Young developing player Lebron James”😂😂😂😂
6:21 Luka doesn’t have much to gain or lose? If he gets championship then he automatically locks in as a top 3 player for the rest of his career imo
Im Sorry Kawhi needs to do something cause he hasnt even played close to a full season and done anything for Clippers
1:55 based Gianni's accountability. He has 0 standards by fans
2:36 Gianni's not capable wo injuries to everyone in the 7 seas. Worst ring ever lol. Luka beat a better healthier version of the same team but we don't crown him. Gianni's proved nothing other than luck.
2:38 Steph curry never won a ring wo a massive injury asterisk that other all time greats didn't benefit from. Always on the most stacked team too
personally i do not really think winning a championship would do much for kd carrer he is playing alongside db and bealy
What no mention of Onovan NO-D aka NO-MAMBA Mitchell…!?!
Like honestly if I was AD and I get hurt again, I’m retiring!
If Kawhi wins another ring i would put him as the 3rd best SF all-time
AD was the best Player on that Lakers Championship run.
Luka hitting that game winner looked like a kid opening up his ps5 on christmas 😂
LeBron will become a Head Coach a couple years after he retires.
xdoubt KD would be vindicated with another ring
Not much will change for Bron but a whole lot can change for AD
Vindicated is insane . Nba fans are nut jobs for real 😂😂😂😂
Giannis and Jokic are the most Deserving.
I lowkey think Jokic is better than moses
If the thunder get top 4 I think SGA will get MVP. I see them as the grizzlies.
if bron wins at 40 there will be no more debate
i guess Fox isnt a superstar.......sad