The TRUTH About The 2013 Lakers

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  • The Story of the 2013 Lakers, and Kobe Bryant's final season at an MVP caliber level.
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  • @jonnyarnett
    @jonnyarnett  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    Where do the Lakers end up if they hire Phil Jackson instead of Mike D’Antoni?
    NOTE: Some of you long time viewers may recognize the script, and that’s because this is an updated version of my favorite video on this channel. I’ve never been able to get it monetized, so I told my editor to take a stab at making a more entertaining version that could also be monetized, and so far so good!
    Part 2 of the 150 Questions vids is coming very soon!! Excited to share it with you guys.

    • @celtics17banners84
      @celtics17banners84 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It’s been so long since I saw this video. I’ll give the updated version a watch. There’s no way they beat the heat even if Kobe is healthy, but wish we could have seen it

    • @sphere2
      @sphere2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      lakers would probably make it as the 5th seed, and lose in the conference Finals to spurs just like memphis.

    • @melvynsngltn27
      @melvynsngltn27 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@celtics17banners84 the Lakers still lose

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The Lakers would obviously do better with Phil, but getting Nash was a terrible mistake. Nobody wanted him & D'Antoni here. It would have worked better if the CP3 deal went through with Phil, Kobe, and Dwight. Any scenario other than this was garbage.

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I don't think they win but Kobe doesn't tear his Achilles being so worn down from carrying the team on his back. Phil Jackson wouldn't have let that happen under his watch.

  • @Dogdude446
    @Dogdude446 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +227

    I never knew it took 4 picks to get Nash. Whoever was the GM at the time really sank that teams future until 2019

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Jim Buss

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Mitch Kupchak was the GM and Jim Buss was standing in for his father since he was in the hospital and passed away during the season. At the time it was viewed as worth it since Nash was still an All star, turned out the Phoenix Suns medical team was holding him together and without their specific techniques he broke down.

    • @grantrmoore
      @grantrmoore 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes but u gotta understand. Nash was a dream player. Elite passer & shooter. He didn't need to put up 20 or even 15 ppg. We had enough scoring. We just needed Nash to be a playmaker.

    • @LungMing23
      @LungMing23 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      If Nash and Kobe didn't get injured they would've easily won a ring together. This team was dangerous on paper.

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@LungMing23 Nash was too old & didn't play defense.

  • @celtics17banners84
    @celtics17banners84 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +197

    I don’t think the lakers would have won, but it really sucks that we didn’t get to see Kobe play in those playoffs. That guy was on fire

    • @cjvaye99
      @cjvaye99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      why not? the 2008-2010 Lakers won 2 out of 3 finals in those years. if you look at this 2013 teams it's upgraded versions of that roster on top of still having Kobe and Pau plus Artest
      Dwight > Bynum
      Nash > Fisher
      Jameson > Odom
      Jodie Meeks > Shannon Brown

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      he was the main reason they sucked...

    • @TheHeisenBuldge
      @TheHeisenBuldge 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@onlyfacts3178they were even contending*

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      ​@@cjvaye99Wrong. Old Nash with a bad back was not better than Fisher. He was unreliable! Jamison doesn't fit better than Odom next to Kobe & Jodie Meeks was not more well rounded than Shannon Brown.

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@cjvaye99In 2012/2013, Artest was on the decline. He couldn't shoot.

  • @Hoopfan83
    @Hoopfan83 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    The biggest mistake was going with Mike dantoni he ran Kobe into the ground and had him playing ridiculous minutes to end up tearing his Achilles

    • @king-ghost1027
      @king-ghost1027 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Exactly 💯,,, I never did like dantoni

    • @bobharley1
      @bobharley1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Wasn't entirely his fault. Never had a training camp and Jim Buss was too egotistical to hire Phil because Phil was part of his father's legacy and he wanted to show he was smart enough to hire a different coach. Jim putting his legacy over Kobe's and screwed over the franchise for most of the 2010s. Who knows if any other coach would do better.

    • @Hoopfan83
      @Hoopfan83 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@bobharley1 yes Jim Buss was a part of the problem for sure.

    • @SixSioux
      @SixSioux 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why are you stating the exact same as this video does. We all got to that conclusion, don't be redundant for a bunch of likes

    • @austinking2k
      @austinking2k 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SixSiouxshut up

  • @aznpikachu215
    @aznpikachu215 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    This was plan B for the Lakers. If the NBA didn't veto that CP3 trade.
    Kobe was REALLY overworked for that Lakers squad in 2013.

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Truth

    • @michaelpaullang4401
      @michaelpaullang4401 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Man !! David stern wrong for that one

    • @allgastrucking4954
      @allgastrucking4954 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m glad someone remembers the truth

    • @OrionOodama
      @OrionOodama 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Plus Kobe felt he's still at his 20s and can still lift the team while putting highlights and attention by his lonesome.

    • @Birdfeed611
      @Birdfeed611 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Apparently it was vetoed because the Lakers would've had the cap room to sign up to 5 max level players that year, thus leading to a new dynasty. Stern didn't want that

  • @samkatsikas5531
    @samkatsikas5531 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    I don’t know how, but I had completely forgotten about D’Antoni having Kobe play at all times at all costs. Just makes me despise him a little more. Everyone knew Kobe would never say no to that directive lol. RIP Mamba

  • @cjvaye99
    @cjvaye99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

    if they just hired Phil Jackson that team would have made a run. the 2013 lakers were basically a better version of the team that made the 3 finals runs at the end of the 2000s. Dantoni didnt know how to win with 2 paint clogging bigs but Phil Jackson did. not to mention Phil is the greatest ever at managing egos.

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The 2013 supporting cast was weaker including Nash, Artest, D'Antoni, and the bench players.

    • @LungMing23
      @LungMing23 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah they're stupid for not hiring Phil. Phil led then to 5 titles....where's the damn appreciation??

    • @michaelpaullang4401
      @michaelpaullang4401 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nah David stern should just let the cp3 trade happen

    • @bobharley1
      @bobharley1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@LungMing23 Jim Buss associated Phil too much with his father's legacy and wanted to create his own legacy by hiring his own coach. All it did was hurt Kobe's legacy with their selfishness. Even Jeanie was pissed that he did that.

  • @chugcanthoop
    @chugcanthoop 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    The ever growing Phil Jackson dubs he is all knowing

    • @BigWillieDillie
      @BigWillieDillie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Racist

    • @chugcanthoop
      @chugcanthoop 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@BigWillieDillie who isn’t these days

    • @justincarreras7753
      @justincarreras7753 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@BigWillieDillieCry more

    • @karuscuvic
      @karuscuvic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@BigWillieDilliehe might be, but just not wanting sports to be used politically and disliking hip hop culture does not make one racist(not that I agree with him). It does make him old fashioned, but that's all we really know.

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@BigWillieDillieAre people really thinking Pippen is right? Before his book he never had a bad word to say and in the 40- 50 years Phil Jackson played with and coached black players that none of them would've said something if he was a racist? At worst Jackson is an out of touch old man not a racist.

  • @cameronj9890
    @cameronj9890 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I remember that game. Still breaks my heat. I was working out and watching the game in the gym, using Kobe as inspiration in the gym. I feel if they got CP and Jackson, Kobe wins two more, TWO. Season 17 for Kobe to me was his absolute best. Kobe wins I the 12-13 season, getting another MVP, Finals MVP and sixth ring. With no torn Achilles, they repeat the next year, and Kobe retires after year 18, 3rd all time points, two MVPs, four finals MVPs and seven rings, solidifying him as the GOAT over MJ.

    • @JohnGoetzGaming
      @JohnGoetzGaming 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I dunno about GOAT over MJ in that scenario but it would have knocked LeBron even more down so I'm all for this alternate reality lol. Maybe My most preferred would be Kobe wins 2012 and Tim Duncan is left in to rebound in game 6 to finish off the heat in 2013.

  • @markjackson6431
    @markjackson6431 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Phil Jackson should’ve coached this squad

  • @august6281
    @august6281 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    This shows that D Antoni is a one-trick pony coach.
    Like Bud, he wont adjust despite the repeated negative results.
    Reason why Harden's numbers are overblown, not just by usage, but by favorable inorganic calls too.

    • @okeythegoat2332
      @okeythegoat2332 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts 😂

    • @kennyfleck8630
      @kennyfleck8630 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The fact that his offense, named Seven Seconds Or Less, or ssol, is loss backwards always told it wouldn't work...

  • @MusicLover-my6fo
    @MusicLover-my6fo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I remember hearing once that Ron Artest said that the 2013 Lakers roster looked so good that they could win 73 games. And Kobe's last game of the season was against the team that would actually go to win 73 games the same year Kobe retired. I've always found that ironic.

  • @Eye_Of_RaRa
    @Eye_Of_RaRa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Can't agree more with everything here. To me my last true experience of the black mamba was this game. And I knew as soon as he went down it was over sadly

  • @hardwoodgems
    @hardwoodgems 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I am in tears! 😭 This didn't have to happen to Bean.
    Remembering rhe news that LA was going with Coach D'Antoni, I couldn't see Howard playing like STAT, as he was a better comp to Bynum. Phil was the better option.
    Could he make them gel, he wasn't any less likely.

  • @user-jw5qj8kv2y
    @user-jw5qj8kv2y 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Dwight Howard was expected to be Kobe's new partner during his time with the Lakers, but it was a shame that the duo disbanded after just one year due to a lack of compatibility in their ideas about basketball and each other's values.
    Shaq later criticized Howard, saying, ``Dwight ran away from the Lakers' pressure.''
    The Los Angeles Lakers were really bad in the 2012-2013 season.

    • @mikescarlet4261
      @mikescarlet4261 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      shaq just a hater man.. deep down he know kobe and mike d antoni was the problem
      i mean why the fuck you think Shaq left him 😂

  • @melvinhhcp3615
    @melvinhhcp3615 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Jim Buss backstabbed Phil because Phil was in a relationship with Jeannie. It cost the Lakers severely.

    • @owensmith2137
      @owensmith2137 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He must have been devastated when Kobe went down as he viewed Kobe as son of his

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@owensmith2137That would be Dr. Jerry Buss, not Jim Buss. Jeannie & Jim are siblings.

    • @owensmith2137
      @owensmith2137 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@melvinhhcp3615 Ooops! Thanks for the correction

    • @melvinhhcp3615
      @melvinhhcp3615 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@owensmith2137 No problem

    • @owensmith2137
      @owensmith2137 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@melvinhhcp3615 👍

  • @orchestrator6808
    @orchestrator6808 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Phil definitely would’ve taken them further, but there’s no way a team that old could’ve gotten through that tough of a western conference.

    • @samuelperezgarcia
      @samuelperezgarcia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The most important point, though, is that Phil wouldn't have cut Kobe's career short like D' Antoni did.

  • @g-rom564
    @g-rom564 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Some needed a wheelchair after pooping on their pants. Kobe, with a TORN achilles, casually walks around like a boss.

  • @Miamisbestalltimeshooterrayray
    @Miamisbestalltimeshooterrayray 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bro is hit ‘em up the backround music you are goated for real Jonny

  • @chukwunonyeanyakoha8573
    @chukwunonyeanyakoha8573 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Kobe really has a lion heart. It's heart-wrenching thinking of what he went through those last moments before his tragic death.

    • @HeroinChrist
      @HeroinChrist 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heart wrenching to think of what he did in Colorado 2003

    • @elliota.1063
      @elliota.1063 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm guessing none of those aboard went through much. From what I've seen the pilot didn't recognize the landscape properly, and no one aboard knew what hit them and died pretty much instantly. That seems like what the flight re-creations say.

    • @austinking2k
      @austinking2k 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HeroinChristYou are a sad little man just trying to start arguments

  • @rashb3994
    @rashb3994 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I don't know if the win loss column would've been that different but Kobe would've been less taxed under Jackson who would've played inside out. The more I study Kobe's legacy the more I have begun to rate him ahead of Lebron. I never did before, it's just there's some on the court character attributes that give him such an edge over LBJ plus his legacy impact / what he stood for. Mamba mentiality has a true basketball culture and even pop culture meaning.

  • @respectingthewordpodcast
    @respectingthewordpodcast 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    At least Kobe went down fighting unlike other supposed super stars.

  • @ArmandoKozomara
    @ArmandoKozomara 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One of my favorite Kobe seasons! 2013! I watched Kobe for the first time on March 8 2013 and he went off vs Toronto!! Miss you Kobe. I wish so badly that achilles injury never happened. Might have been a sixth title for Kobe!
    Kobe was argubly still the best in the league, and had the Lakers been one of the top teams in the west, he could have won MVP. He was still an MVP caliber player.

  • @rlfprofessor301
    @rlfprofessor301 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The literal definition of “you asked for my hustle, I gave you my heart”

  • @maxdobasquete
    @maxdobasquete 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dayum Jonny this video gave me goosebumps!!! Sorry to mention another channel here but the moment you showed Kobe rubbing his Achilles it was like secret base series rewinder when the guy says: "welcome to a moment in history"!!! Chills!!! 💪🏼🏀👏🏼

  • @slipsenior1891
    @slipsenior1891 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Whole lot of kobe in this video. Jus some warning!!! It's soooo worth the watch. Let's go Jonny

  • @youngmoneyclutch
    @youngmoneyclutch 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    history seems to repeat itself with new lakers coaches being chosen over vet coaches with playoff/finals experience and then the preferred playstyle of said coach is forcing the old guys to carry the load due to having practically no offensive knowledge😂

  • @user-jw5qj8kv2y
    @user-jw5qj8kv2y 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    If the Lakers had succeeded in acquiring Chris Paul, the team might not have been weakened.
    I wanted to see the duo of Kobe and Paul.

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Getting CP3 completely changes the fate of the Lakers and the whole league.

  • @patsnation1402
    @patsnation1402 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this was my favorite Kobe season of all time. he gave it his absolute all and backpacked that team. truly inspiring stuff! I was really hoping for a Laker vs Heat finals before the season kicked off, it was finally time for the Kobe vs LeBron finals

  • @atlien1988
    @atlien1988 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nah nan, I knew this team was doomed from the start. PGs that could attack the paint was always our Achilles heel & he Steve was never a great defender.
    The the icing on the cake was when Jim Buss hired D'Antoni. Dude said he couldn't wait to put Pau on the perimeter shooting threes 😭😭😭.

  • @charlesjackson6485
    @charlesjackson6485 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Management was incompetent this year. They did not have a plan. This happens often with them when they are not winning. Amounts to gambling. But they get lucky every 7 to 8 years, decade to decade. That's crazy. That's the Lake show.

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your acting like the Lakers had been run that way for decades when that isn't true. When Jerry Buss bought the team he rarely interfered in Basketball decisions and let guys like Jerry West make the decisions he stuck to business. Jerry West was the GM making the decisions for close to twenty years and in that time we missed the playoffs once. After he left in 00 Mitch Kupchak who had been his assistant for a long time took over and it mostly continued as was, again in the time Kupchak was in charge until Buss' health declined we missed the playoffs once. Things didn't go in to the shitter until Jerry Buss died and his kids squabbled among each other.

  • @jared_deraj
    @jared_deraj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There's a potentially massive butterfly effect if he didn't tear his achilles, it's actually pretty crazy. He might even still be alive.

  • @ianszns
    @ianszns 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    great video jonny, love hearing your take on things.

  • @Sincere529
    @Sincere529 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! This was an amazingly frustrating season. And I knew as well that was the last of the Mamba when it popped.

  • @Gandalf_the_Gold
    @Gandalf_the_Gold 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man this is my favorite Kobe season because I watched more of him in 2013 than any other year cause i was a young 13 or 14 year old lakers fan. I watched him win in 2010 and have been a fan ever since. 2013 was on of his best years it almost seemed he was entering another prime this video made me realize how much I wish Phil had been coaching like pau looked like he was on his way to retire and then when he went too the bulls he had maybe his best individual season ever with good coaching and no injuries that dou could have lasted until like 2015 effectively I think

  • @ValerianTheBarbarian
    @ValerianTheBarbarian 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Your recollection of the time the team was put together was wildly different to mine. Everyone I knew at the time viewed the Nash trade as an absolute disaster and were very cautious about Howard because of the injury. The coaching changes I think everyone was clear are a disaster and we will all never knew what would have happened if Jackson was hired instead.

  • @TheMassiveGamer
    @TheMassiveGamer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If they acquire Phil (or had CP3), I think Kobe gets 7 rings. In regards to hiring Phil, the offense and defense is better, Kobe and Dwight beef is pushed to the side, Phil knows how to load manage the older team (which he did during the Bulls stint), and Lakers win the chip. I say 7 rings, because the Lakers go through the West (have a tough series or two; notably, against the Spurs) and we finally get the Kobe vs Lebron finals. I think in the Finals it goes to 7 games (being one of the most physical finals, since '10 since it's Bron vs Kobe), but the Laker's experience and the genius of Phil gives them the edge to win (even though that Miami roster is more well rounded than before).
    The following season, it's the same. Dwight tests free agency but decides to stay since they won, Nash decides to have another go at it but takes a reduced workload, Kobe is still Kobe, and the Lakers begin making acquisitions to build around Dwight though Kobe is still the head. They go through the West in the playoffs, where they match up against Miami (with a more declined Dwayne now) and edges them out, beating them again--but in game 6. After that, Kobe retires, Dwight gets the team, Phil has his 13th ring, Bron goes to Cleveland, and everything else more or less plays out similar.

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Unless we get CP3 I don't think the team ends up winning even if you just sub Phil for D'Antoni. Kobe never tears his Achilles though and Kobe would age much more gracefully likely extending his career.

  • @MrTrueCaller619
    @MrTrueCaller619 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the hit em up instrumental Jonny, nice video as always .

  • @Kodreanu23
    @Kodreanu23 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very nice video. Thank you!

  • @kono5933
    @kono5933 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was the best video I've seen about this team. Most videos are just roasting them for failing, but I appreciated your analysis of what the lakers' logic actually was and how it was wrong, without simply calling all the players washed.

  • @clarissawestbrook2203
    @clarissawestbrook2203 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was another insightful video

  • @alexsmith3598
    @alexsmith3598 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I mean Pau Gasol was a good stretch 4 at mid range. I wish people just let the players play more. Like there were always floor spacers that could hit from 16-20 feet or whatever. And it's valuable. An open jumper from there has to be as valuable as a contested 3 from the right player.

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      D'Antoni didn't know how to use him. Pau got better at shooting later on in his career but at the time he was still primarily operating out of the post.

    • @alexsmith3598
      @alexsmith3598 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CrazyxEnigma I mean yeah, but he was also a mid-range pick and pop player. Like he wasn't a bruiser for sure, he was versatile and held his own which is perfect by me. 3s are cool but if a defense is literally designed to give you mid-range, it's a good shot because it's open. You don't want to step inside the line, but players play and coaches teach.

  • @Johnny-kv7mh
    @Johnny-kv7mh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another 1 🏀🎥 🔥🔥🔥👌🏾

  • @Ghd301
    @Ghd301 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great OldSchool Video as always 💯

  • @217ShowOffBoii
    @217ShowOffBoii 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I believe Kobe would've had a 25 ppg season in 2014 and 2 more seasons as a 20-23 pt scorer after that under Phil. An ugly ending to his elite level of play but a beautiful ending to his story.

  • @Spenwrath-
    @Spenwrath- 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    WHAT AN INCREDIBLE EPISODE!

  • @boutdatlife313
    @boutdatlife313 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hit ‘em up!

  • @JoshDin4Real
    @JoshDin4Real 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video

  • @Davivd2
    @Davivd2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yeah that achilles game was something else. What an absolute legend. This dude didn't even know what the word quit means. I've seen hundreds of Kobe's games and this one was one of the best for sure. Sadly, it was something that the coach should have seen coming and flat out vetoed Kobe even playing. The Lakers should have wrote off the seasons and taken their medicine for putting together a bad team. Kobe's ankle started having problems in the Sacramento game a few nights before. Hindsight being 20/20 it was probably partially torn for like a week.

  • @KingAnime101
    @KingAnime101 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The super team that Kobe stans never mentioned.

  • @Mrballerize
    @Mrballerize 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Of all the bad things the front office did that season, not bringing back Phil was arguably the worst mistake. I actually think Kobe might have not gotten injured, had they chose Phil to coach in the 12-13 season.

  • @EdbergTan
    @EdbergTan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was the true end to Kobe's illustrious career, with Jim Buss and Mike D' Antoni running Kobe to the ground. You know the Mamba would not say no to doing whatever it takes to win, even if it costs him the rest of his career. Along with the failed CP3 trade before this one, Laker's fate as an organization was done when Kobe tore his Achilles. What a warrior. RIP Mamba.

  • @MAEDtravel
    @MAEDtravel 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One your best Jonny

  • @Hendrix.Robinson
    @Hendrix.Robinson 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I miss that man 🙏🏾
    Mamba forever.

  • @charlesjackson6485
    @charlesjackson6485 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Kobe is the Batman of NBA history.

    • @fel4822
      @fel4822 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Batman was never second to Superman don't play Bruce like that

    • @Jovon-_-
      @Jovon-_- 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He’s black panther

  • @Blackenedification
    @Blackenedification 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You have to admire Kobe pure will and determination when playing basketball

  • @dimikxx
    @dimikxx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great retrospective video. I was in attendance at the LAL at Nets game in Barclays and witnessed that poster dunk on kris humphries and Gerald Wallace.
    I agree with the sentiment that this season / injury was the “end”. Thought the same thing watching that game live.
    During The post game locker room interview, Kobe had tears in his eyes.
    These young guys these days don’t have that type of heart. #mambaForever 🐍
    Video idea: the 2010-11 Mavs run. The narrative being that dirk and Mavs are perennial playoff chokers. Then went and beat Kobe, gasol, Westbrook, KD, James harden, wade, Lebron, Bosh.

  • @williamcorliss9664
    @williamcorliss9664 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Just wanna help the video 🎉🎉🎉

  • @shure81
    @shure81 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'll never ever ever understand how they passed on Phil Jackson. It's baffling

  • @TheJohnWick1
    @TheJohnWick1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We lit!!!!

  • @chrisuncleahmad
    @chrisuncleahmad 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Instead of the risky D’Antoni hire, why not just ride it out with Bernie Bickerstaff?
    As Jonny mentioned, he went 4-1 in his 5 games. He earned the right to finish out the year plus he had plenty of coaching experience from his days in Denver and Seattle.
    3 HC’s in 1 years is bonkers.

  • @bryantnonya8704
    @bryantnonya8704 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2013 is my favorite season watching Kobe Bryant because he showed so much drive and determination up until the Achilles injury. Like that dunk over the whole Brooklyn nets team, the trick play against the hornets where he lined everyone up on the opposite side of the Court and got open for an easy fast break down at the other end to win the game!
    You would be hard-pressed to find a more interesting season for a non-championship team ever in the history of basketball because the expectations going into the season we're very high for the Lakers...

  • @soulofamerica
    @soulofamerica 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Harsh truth is even if age 34 Kobe made it through the 2013 Playoffs & NBA Finals, he was headed for major injury sometime at age 35. The Mamba would not give his body enough nightly rest and off-season R&R to heal. Its why LeBron has gone a lot longer without major injury. MJ taking off 20 months off from basketball (while still staying in shape) at ages 30-31 enabled him to return to the NBA fully healed to perform at MVP level at ages 32-35.

  • @shaynewilliams3755
    @shaynewilliams3755 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jonny better turn that music in the back bro 😂 don't hide that

  • @McGomezAddams
    @McGomezAddams 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A month ago I told you that your intro song reminded me of 2pac's Hit em up and here you go using it as a background LMAOOOOO

  • @K3andK4
    @K3andK4 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Jonny! We for sure missed out on a playoff run and a few more good Kobe years simply because of the decision to not rehire Phil Jackson

  • @Supersonic35_7
    @Supersonic35_7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    KOBE!! 🔥🔥🔥 🐍

  • @antperkins631
    @antperkins631 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hitem up🔥

  • @ajatathemu
    @ajatathemu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember telling my friend who’s a lakers fan. “You’re done!” 😂

  • @BBGSPod23
    @BBGSPod23 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’ve said this the last 10-11 years and I’ll continue to say it. I do NOT care about the team record. Kobe Bryant was the MVP of the 2012-13 season and nothing can change my mind

    • @skywalker2676
      @skywalker2676 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He did not have a better season than Lebron 💀💀💀y’all need to stop that, Bron was killing it that year and way more efficient than kobe

    • @BBGSPod23
      @BBGSPod23 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@skywalker2676 Kobe was the heart and soul of the Lakers that season. He literally gave everything including his Achilles that season to win. Definition of Most Valuable Player

    • @skywalker2676
      @skywalker2676 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BBGSPod23 no that is not sir, Lebron was a BETTER PLAYER than kobe that year. Lebron was different in 2013 you kobe fan boys need to stop

    • @footyroll8678
      @footyroll8678 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      just being heart and soul means nothing. 2012-13 lebron played at a level kobe never did. he was litteraly a top 2-3 player ever along with steph 16 shaq 2000 and jordan 91. it would be a disgrace to give mvp to someone else and it was a disgrace bron did not win unanimous mvpo that season. thats how dominant bron was just1 vote shy@@BBGSPod23

    • @footyroll8678
      @footyroll8678 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      plus i am pretty sure if u replace kobe with melo or kd that year lakers would have done better. its not kobes fault he were in a trash team and had to overwork
      @@BBGSPod23

  • @AngeloRyanMaalat
    @AngeloRyanMaalat 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think if Phil signed, Dwight extended, and Kobe didn't play 46 minutes a night. Lakers would have won in 2013 or 14. The spurs wouldn't have known how to deal with Dwight and Pau if they were coached right. And Kobe would have still been a 27pt scorer. I blame Jim Buss.

  • @jasonjenkins8910
    @jasonjenkins8910 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's crazy to think that Jordan,Shaq, and Kobe only have one championship without Phil Jackson as coach. Them picking Diantoni over Phil was their biggest mistake that year. Kobe had to be livid.

  • @Davivd2
    @Davivd2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Anyone else predicting that this seasons Phoenix Suns will play out like the 2013 Lakers did? Putting together great pieces, isn't the same thing as putting together the right pieces. I feel like Phoenix is about to learn the hard way.

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, a real team is more than just a group of individuals.

    • @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
      @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aaaaand you got it right

    • @Davivd2
      @Davivd2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 Haha thanks for noticing. Most of the other comments that I made about the Suns over the season got downvoted and flamed. I can't really feel like I should get any sort of credit for predicting this. To me, the Suns season seemed pretty obvious. I'm not a basketball guru. I'm just a guy whose been watching for 30 years.

    • @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
      @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Davivd2 they should blow the team up now that their players still have some value. And they won't. Suns fans are in for years of pain

  • @DanUCMan
    @DanUCMan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you have all the pieces there but they don't work together, hire Phil Jackson, can't put it simpler than that.

  • @zonars9610
    @zonars9610 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a laker fan, I can hear johnny's hurt from his voice 😢

  • @alexgrissom3513
    @alexgrissom3513 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:06 whenever I see Kobe’s crown tattoo all I can think about is his autopsy sketch

  • @RushNZ
    @RushNZ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Holla if you spent the whole 17 minutes of this video rapping the lyrics to Hit Em Up lol

  • @MarkLaw13
    @MarkLaw13 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like this video

  • @rashadcotton3260
    @rashadcotton3260 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No lies told

  • @OrionOodama
    @OrionOodama 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Phil Jackson is the right fit for the 2012-13 Lakers.
    If not mistaken, the decision to hire Mike D'Antoni boiled down to two scenarios:
    - Jerry Buss wants to relive the "Showtime era" using D'Antoni's "7 seconds or less" philosophy, but forgotten it is only applicable to young and athletic nucleus, not for the big and aging. That system did not prove to be as a championship formula, only league's darling but never get the job done (see 2004-08 Phoenix Suns).
    - Jackson and Jeanie Buss broke up or no longer in a relationship, so personal matters could play a factor. Then again, winning could set aside personal differences like what happened to Shaq and Kobe.
    Remember Phil was swept by the Mavs then took a year off.
    A recharged Phil could also mean re-motivated and have the fire again to turn this talented but aging and injury-prone Lakers into an interesting team that arguably resembling of the 1997-98 Bulls or another form of "The Last Dance" from a coaching standpoint.

  • @BenDovahkin
    @BenDovahkin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude was an animal. He was actually built different.

  • @kura00skyline48
    @kura00skyline48 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The year we’re the lakers made one of, if not the greatest mistake moves for a franchise…
    As a die hard laker fan, I know 13 or 14 year old me was hyped up knowing the names we got.
    But now as 2024, this was the beginning of the dark days for the franchise, the window was closing, they got very desperate as the previous 2 failures were apparent from getting swept by Dallas in 2011, and getting bested in 5 to OKC in 2012.
    That’s when I knew, we were not gonna win another championship with this Core. The window was shutting down and shutting down fast. And they paid the price DEARLY for that 2013 season.

  • @williamhoward1268
    @williamhoward1268 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Totally forgot about this team. This was what came about from the Chris Paul veto. They should of went with Phil Jackson probably would of gotten a chip.

  • @MarkLaw13
    @MarkLaw13 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey Johnny have you ever done Phil Jackson vs Gregg Popovich? Im with Pops cos I'm a Spur but what's your take?
    Also, I dont mind you doing a top 10 coach in history and what makes them unique, distinctive to others

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I’ve thought about it! I might just end up doing that. Ranking coaches is really tough, because there’s so many different variables, and so much of their leadership goes unseen by basketball fans. I still might do it, but yeah, I’ll make it clear that I don’t think the list is an objective fact or anything 😂

    • @nicholashackie1407
      @nicholashackie1407 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@jonnyarnett video idea for you if you haven't done one already, how about a video highlighting how you feel kobe and mjs career...stats and accolades, would be if they did switch eras.

    • @turbo8628
      @turbo8628 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jonnyarnett i think this is a great idea, although it is a tough assignment.
      Is the best coach the one who has the biggest win ratio, the most championships, the most dominant team, the best team to watch, or oversees the team that exceeds expectations?
      It's a team sport, and like many other team sports, the focus for the majority of people always seems to be the indivodual players with the manager being an afterthought or even forgotten by a lot of fans.
      Btw, i don't even follow basketball, you just make great content 👍

  • @davidhutson2846
    @davidhutson2846 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    #2 ahead of you know who. 😊

  • @cresv422
    @cresv422 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing thats funny is we also had Antwan Jamison on that team

  • @michaelbarnes2126
    @michaelbarnes2126 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They should have hired Phil Jackson and let Dwight sit in the beginning of the season.

  • @jgalvez99
    @jgalvez99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This one made me cry a little. Jim & Mitch fucked up as always and I too believe it cost them wins, forcing Kobe to go all out.

    • @HeroinChrist
      @HeroinChrist 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who forced him to “go all out” in that Colorado hotel?

    • @HeroinChrist
      @HeroinChrist 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Made me cry a little 😭

  • @midnightlumina7
    @midnightlumina7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For sure, Kobe wouldn't have been pushing 40+ minutes to drag the Lakers into the Playoffs with Phil in. Just goes to show that Jim Buss's Ego was the biggest obstacle during that season.

  • @NZbo-.-.-614
    @NZbo-.-.-614 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The lakers organization completely blew this season with mismanagement and KOBE FUCKING TRUCKED THROUGH IT. Extremely underrated year and another prime example of him being over Lebron. Anyone who thinks Lebron would’ve handled this like Kobe is just wrong.

  • @redbogaming6009
    @redbogaming6009 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Good video can you do a video about the 2002 kings getting rob and if that laker team shouldn’t win that championship.

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I’ll write it down on my to-do list. I’ve talked about that series in several videos, but never done a deep dive video focused specifically on it.

    • @facelessandnameless
      @facelessandnameless 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I still think the narrative of the Kings getting robbed has been way overstated. The only questionable game was game six. And even so there were other games where the Kings got favorable calls, like the end of game 5.

    • @melvynsngltn27
      @melvynsngltn27 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Garbage. Sacramento shouldn't of won game 5

  • @copernic7511
    @copernic7511 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bad team management is one of the most frustrating things to watch (along with bad officiating).

  • @jbwuzhere6819
    @jbwuzhere6819 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The basketball God's conspired against Kobe beginning with the blocked CP3 trade followed by poor roster decisions by management and overzealous owner Jim Buss which resulted in the acquisitions of an injured Howard and an aging Nash but the final nail in the coffin was indeed the decision to hire Mike D'antoni as the head coach. A terrible fit for the current team's personnel and play style which ultimately resulted in overuse of their lone reliable superstar. RIP MAMBA as we knew him.

    • @hardwoodthought1213
      @hardwoodthought1213 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They conspired in his favour a hundred times before. The same freaks who rattle on about Paul ignore that the league gifted him Pau

  • @vicentecampos2893
    @vicentecampos2893 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kobe Legend

  • @dimitriclarke4296
    @dimitriclarke4296 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is why he is the greatest to me

  • @pasigiri
    @pasigiri 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Passed on Phil Jackson? I never knew this. Yeah, they owed Kobe THAT money.

  • @Rakven
    @Rakven 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Lakers had a poorly constructed roster that year but Phil at the very least would have squeezed a few more wins out of them for sure. No way Kobe would have had all that responsibility solely on him with Phil Jackson running the team.

  • @shade0180
    @shade0180 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait that was against Steph GSW?? dang feels like the true passing of the torch. From MJ to Kobe to Curry.

  • @danimalman3
    @danimalman3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What do you do though when kobe is hot and needing a win to make it? Take kobe out and he's pissed. Hindsight is 20/20 but at the time it makes so much sense to keep kobe in the game.

  • @Quynn-Oneal
    @Quynn-Oneal 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    have you used 2pac instrumental for the background music?