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  • @jonnyarnett
    @jonnyarnett  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Who is your favorite player, and who do you think is his prototype?

    • @bighuncho5210
      @bighuncho5210 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Kobe , I’d say Tatum and Booker

    • @Intr0vertical
      @Intr0vertical 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jayson Tatum... hmm I guess Paul George but better.

    • @JohnnyRodgers3
      @JohnnyRodgers3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And you should do a video like where you compare the evolution of each player type from across decades...like from bill Russell---to giannis
      Or from wilt chamberlain, to Artis Gilmore to (insert another finesse power big here)

    • @nicksamp515
      @nicksamp515 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      LeBron and I'd say his prototype was Pippen.

    • @twilitezn
      @twilitezn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I’d say that you could also add Jerry West to Steph…around the same height, unlimited range, AND elite off the ball movement (that was not in M.A.R.’s bag).
      I’d say that Jokic is closer to Bird than any player we’ve seen since…Bird and Joker are better passers and scorers than Walton, and have much better shooting ranges…Walton was a defender and shot blocker…in fact HE’S who AD should be compared to stylewise 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @nicksamp515
    @nicksamp515 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Victor Oladipo, before his injuries was looking like D-wade. Sadly when he's about to peak, he got injured so bad.

    • @rapperbucks3203
      @rapperbucks3203 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exacly

    • @fdub301
      @fdub301 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Two of my favorite players. That's a great comparison. People doing acknowledge how cold Vic really was

  • @JohnJohnson-do3db
    @JohnJohnson-do3db 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

    I always thought Luka’s play style most similarly resembled that of Houston James Harden

    • @DaleRojoDecaf
      @DaleRojoDecaf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Who also took his game from Manu Ginobili.

    • @angahbg9089
      @angahbg9089 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      same. Luka is a more efficient Harden since Luka is bigger and taller

    • @michaeltrenier
      @michaeltrenier 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I call him the REAL James Harden 🤣

    • @shermanrobinson1178
      @shermanrobinson1178 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Exactly. He's a right handed James Harden

    • @Bigedub101
      @Bigedub101 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nailed it

  • @josipmarasovic2436
    @josipmarasovic2436 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Chuck and Zion just so fun to watch

  • @celtics17banners84
    @celtics17banners84 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +194

    I never considered Penny and Luka, but you got some real good points. You’re right, Luka wasn’t totally like Larry as much as people think

    • @theinktician
      @theinktician 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      People only compare Luka to Bird for visual reasons. They play nothing alike. Bird played faster and more offball, while Lukas as ball fominant as they come - dribbling the life out of the ball and setting up mid and long range options for himself and others via screen action ( ala Chris Paul). Defensively its not a comparison at all.

    • @neyhmor
      @neyhmor 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I like this Video, but I remember penny being much faster and agile than Luka is.

    • @Kendricktimes2
      @Kendricktimes2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theinkticianLuka is more faster then bird

    • @eliasaronsson1399
      @eliasaronsson1399 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Luka and Harden is the best comp No other comes close

    • @BucketBeast123
      @BucketBeast123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Kendricktimes2ur crazy 😂

  • @radu_nedelcut
    @radu_nedelcut 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    THANK YOU!!! I've been saying for years that Jokic is a modern-day Bill Walton! It should have been immediately obvious to all the people calling him "best passing big man ever" because this immediately comes with the comparison: "...reaching and surpassing the standard set by Bill Walton"

    • @squanchy2925
      @squanchy2925 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Comparing Bill Walton to Jokic is like comparing a Ford Pinto without wheels to a brand new Ferrari.

    • @Giannisette
      @Giannisette 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I understand the comparison with Walton and there is similarities but I actually think jokic is just a taller bird. He has the complete faciliting arsenal (especially the touch passes), the shooting, the back to the basket game, the efficiency, the attitude, the lack of athleticism and the intelligent defense.

    • @davidharripersad2317
      @davidharripersad2317 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Walton's defence was on a whole other level

    • @arch8748
      @arch8748 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GiannisetteI agree. Jokic is way more skilled than Walton, he is more comparable to Bird

    • @swaymcthunder1219
      @swaymcthunder1219 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Giannisette Very much agree. I see so much bird in jokic. Never thought i would see someone quite like bird again, but jokic is as close as it as we ever get

  • @nickphonyothy
    @nickphonyothy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    I feel like the a jokic and bird comparison could also work from a playmaking and shooting standpoint cuz bird wasn’t shooting tht high of shots but was also facilitating from the post and both use minimal athleticism to dominate

  • @09lowkey
    @09lowkey 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    7:27 - 30 years later this is still one of the most 'wtf did he just do' moves in NBA history. I know Wiggins does this move semi-frequently, but still no where as smooth as Penny.

    • @willishardy
      @willishardy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      glad someone pointed this out. i had to rewind the video 5 times. what a move!

    • @wedabestradi096
      @wedabestradi096 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahahaha same I'm just like how the fuck is that not a travel bro must've studied that move

    • @wedabestradi096
      @wedabestradi096 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Beautiful move and beautiful shot too

  • @nicksamp515
    @nicksamp515 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    With LeBron I think it's hard to guess his prototype as I can think of at least 3 (Hill, Magic, Pip) but Pippen for me is the closest as LeBron did whatever Pip was doing and took it to another level except his lockdown defense.

    • @ktapreswreckd921v9
      @ktapreswreckd921v9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is a well made point.

    • @jackstraw522
      @jackstraw522 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’d put them about even on D but Lebron is better offensively, but definitely a good comparison

  • @igothatch763
    @igothatch763 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I hate it when ppl overrate and quickly compare a young player to an all time great and call them busts or did not live up to hype when they don’t.

    • @nicksamp515
      @nicksamp515 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They hyped booker to Kobe so bad and then when he failed to win a ring, they would diss the guy and say "you'll never be like Kobe" like wtf. They branded him like that and then call him out for not living to Kobe's standards. Absolutely pathetic. Mostly kobetards who loves him so much would compare someone who trained with Kobe and expect similar results.

    • @potionz1733
      @potionz1733 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      People always strive to compare others from the past with new players. When we witness greatness we like to compare them with people similar to them

  • @arnebordelius2084
    @arnebordelius2084 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    My favourite player is jokić and his closest prototype is Arvydas Sabonis. Now back to watching the video :D

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Good pick. I considered him, but you’ll hear another choice at the end 👍

  • @CoachChef
    @CoachChef 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That Joker / Walton comparison is one I never would have considered the other still it's pretty spot-on obviously minus the facts that Walton was a premier defensive player in his prime

  • @lukekiefer5964
    @lukekiefer5964 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    I would argue that Elgin Baylor is a more apt prototype for Lebron. Elgin was incredibly athletic, strong, could score from anywhere, and was a better passer than King by far. It was always said you could never take your eye off Elgin because he would always find the open man, and put the ball right into the shooting pocket. Baylor was a high flyer, and an incredibly high iq player, who could score like almost nobody else.

    • @aswanwilliam
      @aswanwilliam 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Nobody is similar to Bron

    • @johncraig4820
      @johncraig4820 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I actually think LeBron Bird but I thought Bird was a bigger slower Baylor. They all have a great sense of the court and great anticipation.

    • @cncaliguy09
      @cncaliguy09 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Actually it is Big O. Hyper athletic for the era who could jump run and strong as ox. Rebound pass, defend and played with high IQ.

    • @johncraig4820
      @johncraig4820 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cncaliguy09 I kinda get but Oscar is a guard and played like a guard. LeBron just isn't and doesn't. But watch Bird's games during the 3 MVP years and LeBron a very similar player.

    • @d3va383
      @d3va383 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Better passer than Lebron? There’s at best 5 guys who could say they’re better passers than Bron. There would be at least 50 players that I would name before Elgin Baylor in terms of passing

  • @kingdeedee
    @kingdeedee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Some very interesting picks here. I think an underrated Jokic comparison would be Bird despite them playing different positions. Both are triple double threats, elite 3 level scorers, and both had the uncanny ability to casually hit the most ridiculous shots in your face against all odds. Both also love playmaking in the high post as well as being overlooked but smart defenders.

  • @cadecrusader3940
    @cadecrusader3940 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you Jonny for this video! I love your comparisons of the players you mentioned for these reasons. I think we should look at modern players’ comparisons to the ones from the past as a result of play styles, their build, and their movement on the court.

  • @stephenwashingtonjr1625
    @stephenwashingtonjr1625 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video I don’t fully agree some but it’s still great explanations. Keep making great videos love watching them

  • @UnoDinero95001
    @UnoDinero95001 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is why i love johnny’s channel. Only guy on yt who’s actually seen enough basketball to be a more then credible source for this kinda thing. Typical W video

  • @badsky4196
    @badsky4196 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    i think the best comparison for giannis is wilt because wilt was build like giannis and also had the speed and athletecism. I would take the more pass first wilt as giannis is also an ok passer.

    • @theinktician
      @theinktician 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wilt was a fadeaway machine. Yes, they're generational athletes, but I can't take this comparison seriously.

    • @linkonedgell894
      @linkonedgell894 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Their playstyles are completely d8ferent. Wilt was a post player, Giannis is a slasher.

    • @luke8837
      @luke8837 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sure but orlando shaq is still a closer comparison forsure

    • @lukekiefer5964
      @lukekiefer5964 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In terms of body and athleticism, absolutely- although Wilt was taller, heavier, stronger, could jump higher, whereas Giannis is more agile with better footwork. But in terms of play style their only real comparison is the dipper shot, except Giannis does it on the run, fastbreak ability (although Wilt rarely showcased it as the ball handler), and their flying back on defense for blocks. The only two players to consistently just go right up over a guy and finger roll it in with a fully extended arm.

    • @linkonedgell894
      @linkonedgell894 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @luke8837 Orlando Shaq os a terrible comp. This idea that he would take the ball coast to coast is a total fantasy. Tiny Shaq was still a bruising low post bully ball player. He wasn't a slasher, he wasn't a ball handler, and he wasn't leading fast breaks consistently. He was a slightly less effective version of what he was in LA.

  • @Centralbees
    @Centralbees 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing vid as always

  • @alex4833
    @alex4833 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Cool comparisons, Jonny! Durant and Nowitzki didn't immediately come to mind initially for me (as I focused more on how Durant has been on multiple teams whereas Dirk was solely in Dallas), but you're right - their styles are quite similar. I remember being in awe of how unstoppable Dirk was. As you mentioned, he had a great shot, could shoot over you if you had a faster but shorter player guard him, and could maneuver and drive past you if you had a big guy who was slower than him defend Dirk. I can see the same for Durant. I also concur that young Shaq is similar to Giannis. I remember seeing clips of him from the 90s and seeing how agile he was amazed me. So, I agree that Giannis is definitely very similar to him.
    Yeah, I didn't think that Bird was that great of a comparison for Luka. I like them both, but have seen Bird as a better defender and concur that their play styles. Penny is definitely a better comparison. Both are tall guards and I concur that their skillsets have many similarities.
    It was great to learn more about Walton. I learned a bit about him before, but it was cool getting to learn more about him here. I can see why he and Jokic are similar.
    Have a great day :).

  • @nixni1138
    @nixni1138 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yes a new video!❤

  • @KeyTez
    @KeyTez 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Jrue Holiday reminds me of Gary Payton minus the trash talking but 2 of the best defensive guards in their era ask any player

  • @chp9546
    @chp9546 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lillard and price...right on the money mr arnett!!! as always great upload....also every upload you do....thank you for your honest great work....love and respect from austria!! #nokangaroos

  • @michaeltrenier
    @michaeltrenier 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Can we take a moment to APPRECIATE Jonny Arnett? No. Seriously. The quality of his analysis and comparisons are second to NONE. Another great video. Par excellence per usual sir.

  • @mukaiba1
    @mukaiba1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You're on fire bro - keep up the great content! As far as comps to LBJ, though I like the Bernard King comp, I think the more accurate comp is Scottie Pippen. To me, if you look at their games, they are *very* similar - it's just that LeBron took his game to a whole nother level.

  • @GloriousKev
    @GloriousKev 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I think a better LeBron James comparison would have been young Grant Hill. A nightmare in transition, decent ball handler and facilitator. Hill was never the defender LeBron was in his prime but Hill wasn't a lot of things that LeBron was in his time. I think he is probably the closest comparison though.

    • @phomjachana
      @phomjachana 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Pippen is generally the other comparison. Pip was a better defender tho.

    • @shermanrobinson1178
      @shermanrobinson1178 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've always regarded LeBron as a mix between Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen. Grant Hill is a good comparison if you're talking just a single player but honestly Hill is a bit too light in the ass for me though I do see the similarities

  • @marvinholt8819
    @marvinholt8819 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Honestly for AD, I’d say David Robinson. They are both defensive monsters who specialize in shot blocking, but they can also defend on the perimeter if need be. As for their offense, they are both guys who usually rely on their jumpers from the mid range and are amazing lob threats. Their offensive skill sets are a lot more alike to me than KG and AD because I don’t think AD could be the focal point of an offense like KG, just like how the Admiral couldn’t be a real focal point of a championship roster. Anthony Davis needed Bron just like how David Robinson needed Duncan. That’s just my take tho

  • @yourhandsomestep-dad2669
    @yourhandsomestep-dad2669 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    KD and TMAC is prolly more apt for me but I can still see the dirk comp I guess

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I can see that. A TMac and Dirk fusion is basically KD

  • @watariwangyu33
    @watariwangyu33 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video Johnny! Before you mentioned, my thought really was Mahmoud Abdul Rauf's comparison to Steph.
    And I would be mad if you compare Larry Bird to Lebron or Luka. There's never been another quiet like Larry Joe Bird.

  • @leptonparticle238
    @leptonparticle238 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Lebron's prototype is easily Scottie Pippen, the first point forward. Lebron is the better version of Pippen, excluding the defence.

  • @facelessandnameless
    @facelessandnameless 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    You’re spot on about Luka and Bird. Larry Bird was a way better shooter (one of the best ever) and also a very good and pesky defender. Luka is a great offensive player, but has a long way to go to get to Bird’s level overall. Not to mention Bird was a winner, virtually right out of the gate. Luka has yet to prove himself in that regard.

    • @PhenomRom
      @PhenomRom 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting

    • @lukebbuff
      @lukebbuff 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree on the defensive side but I’m not convinced Bird was a better shooter than Luka.
      Despite being much worse at free throws Luka still has Bird beat (58% to 56%) on True Shooting. Yes his flat 3pt percentage is lower but he takes 4x more threes which leads to lower percentage shots that are still more efficient than long twos and midrange looks.

    • @viktorkopinc4055
      @viktorkopinc4055 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why didn't any American match his steals per game in the world cup, if they can defend so expertly? Luka was even leading the tournament mid way with 3 steals per game. Guess what? Spacing in the FIBA world cup is closer to 80's NBA than today's NBA. You sure the gap is that big? They played similar minutes in their first 5 seasons, yet Luka had the second most impact in the playoffs behind Jordan. They are second apart, not light years. If Luka was drafted by the Celtics instead of Tatum, well let's be real and not fool ourselves, I'm not confident that Giannis, Curry or Jokić win a ring. That theory will eventually prove itself, when Luka gets to have a real team, meaning people who can execute roles confidently under pressure, not teaming up with a superstar while your Media accuses him of not being compatible. The focal problem with Luka is not his behavior or athleticism or the way he plays, his main problem with Americans is in reality that he is not American. Envy is a mofo my friend.

    • @donaldf9055
      @donaldf9055 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Offensively there's a Convo. But bird is a much better shooter.

    • @lukekiefer5964
      @lukekiefer5964 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lukebbuff This is a result of two things: Luka’s late career stats haven’t dragged down his percentages like happens to all NBA players, and it’s different games: Bird dealt with far more physicality, was more restricted in the rules on dribbling, as players are now allowed to carry and travel every play, and that’s no hate, just facts, and spacing was completely different. Give Bird the ability to play in todays league where he could put his hand under the ball while dribbling, be encouraged to launch from three and take step-backs, and give him far more space and you’re talking about one of the most efficient shooters ever. Not to mention Luka is not known for his late-game daggers (although he does have a few). Bird is almost unanimously regarded as the clutchest shooter ever. "If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save a game, I'd choose Michael Jordan. If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save my life, I'd take Larry Bird”- Pat Riley.

  • @UnconventionalReasoning
    @UnconventionalReasoning 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sometimes it is helpful to blend two past players to see a hybrid prototype for a current superstar. One example might be Zion as a mix of 76ers Sir Charles and Lob City Blake Griffin.

    • @4392amtrak
      @4392amtrak 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And Shawn Kemp and LJ, not LeBron James, but Larry Johnson

  • @willg3220
    @willg3220 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good idea for a video. Thats why i stayed watching through off-season unlike most the nba PooTubers...

  • @makeshift2384
    @makeshift2384 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm a little surprised you didn't say George Gervin for KD

  • @Red-gc6dw
    @Red-gc6dw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dope video. I had to make a comment after seeing the Dame and Mark Price comparison. Most times the player comparison is done by race ... For example calling Joker, Bird. When in reality Joker plays more like Magic with a JumpShot..
    Or Nike forcing the Bron, Mike comparison. When in reality Bron was a mesh of Magic, Scottie, Dominique, and Karl Malone

  • @cyril6933
    @cyril6933 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    For Jokic, I would go clearly for Sabonis: offensively he was almost as skilled as Jokic, and his passing ability was insane. Looking just at his number of assists per game in nba doens't really reflect his ability: I think there was a video recently where Rasheed was saying Sabonis was even better than Jokic at the pass (I know this is Rasheed talking about one of his former teammate😀.)

    • @TheDwight12
      @TheDwight12 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. Jokic is basically a healthier Sabonis. At their best they were probably around the same level but what makes Jokic much better is that he isnt slowed down by injuries unlike Sabonis was

    • @viktorkopinc4055
      @viktorkopinc4055 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheDwight12 No, Sabonis was elite defensively. If he played today, without injuries, he would be clearly the best player. Old broken Sabonis would give Jokić business, hell Dwight gave him business, but now there are now centers of yesterday to prove my point. Still Jokić is beast for not being as tall as Sabonis and still proving that the package Arvydas had was enough to rule the NBA even if you are two inches shorter than Sabonis.

    • @TheDwight12
      @TheDwight12 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@viktorkopinc4055 but being prone to injuries is a huge part. You could say the same for Grant Hill,Bill Walton and many others that you could argue would be in goat conversation without injuries. If a player is injury prone its a big negative and its a part of the package that makes a player great.

    • @donaldf9055
      @donaldf9055 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No they aren't the same offensively.

  • @marcosmartinez8088
    @marcosmartinez8088 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You know, Luka reminds me a lot of prime Harden, but, you know, instead of being a choker Luka can make clutch plays.

  • @kylecallis77
    @kylecallis77 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love these comparisons lillard + price.Also dirk+Durant

  • @justtimes9257
    @justtimes9257 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    kevin durant is bob madoo
    damaian lilard is perfect but i would add jerry west too
    lebron is elgin baylor mixed with oscar
    jayson tatum is tom chambers & kobe bryant
    joel embid is patrick ewing
    luka is harden & pemny
    steph & giannas have perfect comparison
    nikola jokic is perfect & add wilt chamblain year he won the a chip

    • @facelessandnameless
      @facelessandnameless 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love these comparisons!

    • @mikecostinas3045
      @mikecostinas3045 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Those were my thoughts exactly ! spot on

  • @GoodOmali
    @GoodOmali 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I see luka more as a modern day Oscar Robertson but i completely understand the penny comparison

  • @Posesso
    @Posesso 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video concept and execution, for me.
    Well, looking at stats Bill Walton had 3.4 assists per game and Sabonis 2.1. But I feel safe guessing the plays by the coaching stuff had a lot to do, Sabonis being much less used. I did watch quite some Portland back then, but no Walton so I can't be sure. But, if one checks the highlights, the quality of Arvydas passes... I think it's even hard to argument they are not clearly as good as Jokic's.
    I actually feel we are lucky because we get to see what kind of Monster Sabonis would likely have become hadn't been for the insane dealing with his injuries. Funny note, I'm from Valladolid, so he played for my city in Spain. So yeah, I'm cool and trustable :P Nah, I didn't see any of that.

  • @user-ip6eq7sv8e
    @user-ip6eq7sv8e 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks you for Luka and Bird. For the media only the color matter ! Thanks you

  • @simonppp
    @simonppp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Booker has always been the modern day Kobe for me

  • @markjackson6431
    @markjackson6431 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bleacher Report had a video series called The Portal. thoughts on that?

  • @felixmaximus86
    @felixmaximus86 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video but i think Sabonis is an underrated passer!

  • @randomperson2540
    @randomperson2540 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    My favorite player is Kobe, and his prototype is MJ, but when he came 24, he was honestly his own thing

    • @sandeepatwalspeaks
      @sandeepatwalspeaks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For me Kobe was MJ's prototype, yes I believed that when I didn't knew that MJ had come earlier than Kobe in the league, the style of play at the instant was so similar and at that point of time when I actually saw MJ & Kobe video on TH-cam back then, Kobe was the GOAT for me until I discovered TH-cam channels like Jonny's, so yeah MJ must have copied Kobe like logic I used till then but honestly I recognise MJ being the GOAT and Kobe, the second coming of MJ or maybe my generation's MJ atleast for late 2000s, his moves made me fall in love with this game otherwise for me it would've been an alien game which is hard and no one really played in my locality, in that circumstances only Kobe made me to learn the game to play

    • @sumnahlennon5449
      @sumnahlennon5449 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Early Kobe mostly mimicked Jordan's fancy layups. But many players did those type of layups

    • @Gemini050788
      @Gemini050788 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      MJ Stans and Kobe haters HATE that he had all of Jordan’s moves and some of his own. They act as if every move of his career was an MJ move. You are absolutely correct.

    • @sumnahlennon5449
      @sumnahlennon5449 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kobe's similarity to MJ mostly comes down to the flashy layups.

    • @sumnahlennon5449
      @sumnahlennon5449 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Gemini050788There are no original moves. Just spins on existing moves. What separates players is their style, and Kobe has publicly stated numerous times that he mimics Jordan's style, and even approached Jordan for mentorship on performing those moves like him.
      Kobe went as far as to imply he is the only player to master MJ's style or receive mentorship. So yes, with Kobe its easier to point out similarities.

  • @AfricanH3ro
    @AfricanH3ro 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First half had some unique comparisons I never heard before, once we got to Tatum-Kobe it was standard fare but still entertaining content

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s why I skimmed over it so fast. It was an honest answer, but a boring one because everyone knows that comparison 😂

  • @brandenbyrd5239
    @brandenbyrd5239 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crossing out the Celtics logo in the thumbnail is goated

  • @kannon1610
    @kannon1610 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think Curry is more similar to Reggie Miller, but thats probably mostly because Thinking Basketball makes such a compelling argument about that

  • @ianweir3608
    @ianweir3608 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That fact that Walton is a legend WHILE being the most injured player ever is amazing

  • @datboimazz
    @datboimazz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jonny I’m curious what you think about this but I don’t think Tatum’s offensive game mirrors Kobe’s as much as it use to. He’s added a lot of Harden’s step back moves and the way he danced on the perimeter. I also think that’s sometimes why he has bad playoff performances as well. I think the player who plays most like Kobe offensively in todays league is D Book but that’s just my opinion Lmk what you think. Love the vid bro🙏🏾💪🏾

  • @dwaynewade3711
    @dwaynewade3711 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can you do this video scale it to an All time view? Like u can probably compare MJ to somevody like David Thompson or Dr J?

  • @ifightkidsmusic
    @ifightkidsmusic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Carmelo Anthony is Alex English, they both could score a ton but had pretty equal win percentages

  • @mathy7280
    @mathy7280 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That no-look pass from Penny to Rony Seikley (i think) was filthy

  • @nickschumacher3305
    @nickschumacher3305 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should do “Who would be the most remembered teams of the last 10 years.” Try to think of like you are 20 years in the future.

  • @savagestrat6012
    @savagestrat6012 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was thinking for Gianni’s he reminds me of James worthy quick strong and a good defender

  • @ktapreswreckd921v9
    @ktapreswreckd921v9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great great job on the video Jonny. Just one issue.
    Bernard King was no LeBron James! Respectfully speaking of course on behalf of Bernard.

  • @jasontuazon1683
    @jasontuazon1683 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ill like the KG-AD comparison with the "fragility of a chinese tea cup!" KG is my absolute fave player

    • @09lowkey
      @09lowkey 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Chinese Tea Cup makes him closer to Amare Stoudemire than KG.

  • @rylan7238
    @rylan7238 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love how Jonny always gives dame the credit he deserves

  • @orionizaqt
    @orionizaqt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh god comparing Jokic to both Sebonis AND Walton is so painful as a Blazers fan. We basically had the Joker twice but only 1 chip to show for it lol

  • @shadowrose3160
    @shadowrose3160 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In my opinion Jokic is a direct evolution of Dirk. From how Jokic shoots the basketball to how he draws defenses to him.
    Jokic took Dirk's game and added an elite passing ability, even better footwork in and out of the paint, and a great hook shot/floater game too.

  • @Purlypurlington
    @Purlypurlington 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was wondering what you were gonna say about katys dribbling vs dirk. Kd def has better dribs but like u said dirk can take u off dribble too at very least so I feel u

  • @fireshadowblade9
    @fireshadowblade9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Funny, cause Isiah Thomas has reversed comparisons, Mahmoud for Dame and Price for Steph. Also, Hakeem was a lot faster than Embiid, but Embiid is heavier and more muscle, so it makes sense.

  • @masterrserch3971
    @masterrserch3971 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bernard King...
    As someone who's Pop was only barely into baseball and who got into NFL & NBA on his own at 10 years old in 1988, I basically just missed Bernard King--- but boy did I and I still do, hear about King a lot.
    Not to be "that guy," cuz it's gonna be hilarious buuuuut lol...
    In my most recent season/90% games SIM'd in 2k23, I needed a 2nd scorer on my heavily defense and rebounding/0 scoring team. All I did was make him 19, put the intangibles up to 90, and just cuz I wanted him around "forever," put his peak end at 41 y/o, highest it can go.
    I then just put his shoot and touches tendency up to 90 each.... and I proceeded to watch him feast to the tune of a 12 year run of 27-30 ppg 22-34, and when he finally retired at 39, he still dropped i think like 19ppg? Hes awesome
    Added bonus--- I mustve made this comment 100 times, half of which here on this channel, but not for nothing, had my Knicks been able to make good, make reality, the whisper rumors of us acquiring ur boy (and mine) Mark Price, instead of Derek Harper, i still maintain that we beat the Rockets in 94, possibly even go back to face them again when Houston had Drexler.
    Harper was no slouch, but he wasnt Mark Price, and especially in his twilight with the Knicks. The difference he wouldve made, forcing defenses to plan for him and not basically just Ewing, Ewing wouldve been even better.
    And the God, whatever it was, 2 for 18 or whatever Starks had, I block it from my mind lol, but yeah that dont happen cuz Price could DRILL IT

  • @DartyMonk
    @DartyMonk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One of my fav player is Luka and his prototype is probably Magic Johnson because of Luka's amazing passing.

    • @lukekiefer5964
      @lukekiefer5964 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He doesn’t play like Magic tho. Bird had better passing than Luka too. Johnson liked the fastbreak, was incredibly athletic, scored through motion etc. none of that describes Luka’s game.

    • @javigar133
      @javigar133 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL, Bird was a much better passer than Luka is, Magic is the greatest ever!

  • @rapgodreloaded9259
    @rapgodreloaded9259 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lonzo Ball coming out of UCLA reminded me of Jason Kidd and Chris Paul.

  • @_tuss1731
    @_tuss1731 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    W Bernard King respect

  • @alexpabloroy
    @alexpabloroy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You’re totally right about the Penny Luka. I’ve always though Luka and Giannis would make a great duo. I guess I was just seeing the the young Orlando duo in them haha.

  • @Checkerchamp
    @Checkerchamp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shai’s my favorite player right now. A comparison I could see is Kobe play style wise, but I’m sure there’s a better comp out there that I’m missing

  • @florianpoulin7108
    @florianpoulin7108 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    -Kevin Durant reminds me someway of Tony Kukoc, especialy when Tony played with Split and Treviso. They have in common the ability to play SF-PF, to shoot 3, the posture they have when they dribble and to penetrate sometimes, their height and lean aspect..
    -Curry and Lillard : i think both have some Price and Abdul-Rauf in their game, some Nash too ?
    -Giannis : Between Shaq, David Robinson and Shawn Kemp (for morphology, explosiveness and mid-range shoot ability).
    -I would be curious about Klay Thompson : somewhere beetween players like Miller, Mullin and Michael Cooper for the defensive way ?
    -Draymond Green : Rodman ?

  • @jamesbrick250
    @jamesbrick250 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    George Mikan. Without him, there's no Big Man at all.

  • @mykronesian4430
    @mykronesian4430 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would have to disagree with Lebron. I think hes more closer to Magic...an all around player who can play all positions and get their teammates involve..everyone else is spot on tho

  • @charlesss417
    @charlesss417 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think the better comparison to joker is magic... the point-center position

  • @Jayjayxxx007
    @Jayjayxxx007 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can we get a video on Oscar Schmidt? I was scrolling on fb and seen something about bron being 2000 points away from him? In total points.

  • @radu_nedelcut
    @radu_nedelcut 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ok hear me out... I got Steph Curry as a modern day and much better "Pistol" Pete Maravich.
    Both are a combination of insane shooting and ball handling that had never been seen before in the league when they came along.

  • @kevinhouse4376
    @kevinhouse4376 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bill Walton was actually taller than 6-11; he just didn't want anybody to know it at the time. In fact, he jokingly still refuses to give a straight answer about it. LOL! However, some analysts believe he was closer to 7-2.

  • @PawnCOD
    @PawnCOD 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve consider Jokić as Wilt imo, since they both can score, rebound and assist at will!

  • @welcometotwannation804
    @welcometotwannation804 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your content jonny but i kinda disagree with those whole list so heres my imo
    Dame-chauncey billups with more atheltisicim
    KD- more efficent tmac with more accolades
    LEBRON- MAGIC WITH MORE SCORING/ATHELTICIMS BUT LESS VISION
    AD-KG IS SPOT ON
    Tatum-More polished version of allen houston
    Luka is a right handed james harden. No defense, same hybrid offense and very ball dominant/high turnover rate
    Steph- steve nash with more spacing, and less court vision
    Giannis shaq is close as it gets

  • @ernestjimmy4537
    @ernestjimmy4537 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do top 10-20

  • @charlieprince8671
    @charlieprince8671 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Luka always reminded me on Manu with the restraints off

    • @4392amtrak
      @4392amtrak 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He also has a prototype of Harden and Pierce in his game

  • @samuelmartinez3762
    @samuelmartinez3762 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was hoping to see Kawhi on the vid…probably MJ or TMack comparison

  • @whartonarseino8849
    @whartonarseino8849 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I watched a TH-camr's channel and the guy made a very interesting comp for KD: Bob McAdoo (I watched some of his highlights and their game are similar).

    • @radu_nedelcut
      @radu_nedelcut 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Durant is nowhere near the rebounder McAdoo was and McAdoo is not as good of an outside shooter or ball handler as Durant... But I do see where he is coming from.

  • @voss9933
    @voss9933 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Leaving this video thinking of embiid as the walmart version (with a 3) of hakeem now lol

  • @pauldack5129
    @pauldack5129 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Luka - Penny. That's a great comparison.

  • @Drummer-nn4km
    @Drummer-nn4km 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Still waiting for that all time Celtics lineup

  • @brongled
    @brongled 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hello Jonathan

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello Snack

  • @fdub301
    @fdub301 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've always thought the best comparison for LeBron is Scottie Pippin. & Wilt Chamberlain for Giannis

  • @dewanewelch1744
    @dewanewelch1744 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ill be honest that LBJ Benard King comparison is wwwwaaaayyyyyyy oooofffff!!!!!!

  • @jfish5120
    @jfish5120 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Luka and Penny is actually a really good comparison

  • @toon5217
    @toon5217 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Jokic reminds of Larry Bird so much just a bigger version. Tatum is T-Mac to me because of the defensive end Kobe could really lock in but also Kobe played angrily sometimes Tatum is more that nonchalant hooper like Mac lol

    • @infiniteimprovement
      @infiniteimprovement 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw the Jokic Bird similarities.
      Even their jumpshots are somewhat similar.

    • @linkonedgell894
      @linkonedgell894 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Incredibly similar, the only real diference to me is that Jokic has that hook shot and bird didn't really shoot those.

  • @watariwangyu33
    @watariwangyu33 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ❤❤❤💯

  • @benberry792
    @benberry792 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a neat idea But... what if you *Combined two players to create a star: Luka = Steph ± Bird ... or LeBron = Jordan ± Magic

  • @K3andK4
    @K3andK4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quick alt. ideas:
    Lillard=Arenas
    Durant=Rashard Lewis
    Lebron=Magic
    Davis=Duncan
    Tatum=Grant Hill
    Embiid=Mourning
    Doncic=Oscar
    Curry=Maravich
    Giannis=Kemp
    Jokic=Oliver Miller
    Victor=M. Bol

  • @petiteexplication6249
    @petiteexplication6249 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got gilbert arenas as lillards closest comparison

  • @ATroubledGreensLibrary
    @ATroubledGreensLibrary 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ❤🎉

  • @shermanglenn3926
    @shermanglenn3926 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know he is not a top 10 player but before his problems with the Sixers, I thought Ben Simmons could run a tan like Jason Kidd. Also thought there were some similarities between Kevin Garnett and David Robinson

  • @MrJohnnyAOA
    @MrJohnnyAOA 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always thought of Jokic as a modern Chris Webber.

  • @egaymorano7972
    @egaymorano7972 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought lebron was gonna be compared to barkley due to their transitioj play and well rounded stats. But not bad comparison for both kings

  • @JansMarinara
    @JansMarinara 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tatum is very underrated defensively. Kobe played mire of a guard style of defense wheras Tatum plays more of a forward style of defense. Not saying Tatum is as good as Kobe defensively but tatum is a great defender.

  • @kookurikapooh
    @kookurikapooh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pleasantly surprised by the comparison between Bernard King and King James.
    I disagree with Penny and Luka. Sure, you pointed out certain similarities, but Luka quite literally moves like Larry: which is a key factor. You can't expect a player as slow as Perk to play and move the same way as a LeBron; You can't expect a player who significantly lacks the speed and athleticism to move like an MJ; etc.
    Speed, finesse, and power are characteristics that are a key part of a player's game. Player's games or playstyles are the way they are in large part due to the extent of their physical abilities. You'll rarely find Luka pulling out moves at the back of his quickness because he simply can't do it (not as well as Penny). While Penny on the other hand made great use of his speed and athleticism and incorporated these into his game.
    While I enjoyed how you managed to draw some similarities from an entirely new point of comparison, I think this is a stretch and is just an attempt to be somewhat different.